This is like talking to a friend in an abusive relationship. When he's like, "no, man. I know she's crazy and she flips out, but she said she's really sorry and she's going to try to change. She really does love me. I know it'll work out. Just support me."
I feel bad for him. He spent so much time playing the Alpha, giving them all this detailed feedback... when the whole time, the goal of D:I was to milk as much cash out of fools as they could. Best thing for him right now would be to just dump the game and never give it a second thought.
"I know it'll work out. Just support me." - is what were the man's last words to his friends, before he was found dead with several knife wounds in his back
Professional QA here. This dude doing my job for free is the saddest thing ever. He sounds on the verge of tears thanking his overlords for the opportunity to waste his time completely in the name of perfecting a predatory product. Dude needs an intervention
It's like A concubine Of a sex cult Who escaped it once after reaching the age of 18 Coming back and helping design the cult scripture to improve the systems in which abuse occurs Out of sheer will
@@fluffypinkpandas you okay dude, that sounds a little too real, are you currently restructuring a cult so you can resurrect some ancient evil, while also committing child abuse.
I did the same thing for LinkedIn. I got to 120k+ post impressions and people like 'pro baseball player' 'radio show host' and 'foreign minister' in my demographics. I actually asked AWS and GCP with hashtags in LI posts to bring down LinkedIn. They blew them the fuck up (and Facebook, whoops). I went live on twitch and Amazon watched with me as we saw them slowly put LinkedIn back together. Then Microsoft got smart. They fixed LinkedIn (no not the intentionally bad features like the shitty activity history and time wasting viral content features). Did they give me a job as a QA? Fuck no I already did a great job for free. Sadly triggered a manic episode for me and I was too busy going crazy to record any of the evidence. That twitch Vod would have been legendary to save.
In abusive relationships there's a term called "breadcrumbing", where one partner does just enough to keep the relationship alive, by occasionally doing wildly special things but being a complete ass or negligent most of the other time. Game companies are doing this with their players to get them to spend money, it's absurd.
Watching this guy being so hopeful legit almost made me cry. This is a fucking tragedy, he is destined to continue to hope and have his hopes shattered over and over and over and over again… it’s like Roman myth tragedy tale
There is a slither of hope once the Microsoft takeover is finalized. Hopefully they restructure the company and focus less on predatory profit making tactics and more on just making good products.
@@adamcarlton3312 I mean, sorta yes. Microsoft wants to acquire Activision for Metaverse reasons, but as a company, they are far more look at the long term rather than the short because similar to Valve they have fuck you money that isn't attached to game making. But, as shown with Halo Infinite, they generally leave devs be to their own shit, for good or ill. Microsoft did originally set up that employment scheme that resulted in 343 basically only being made of 18-month contract developers, but it wasn't for that purpose and I don't even know if they cared too much. Now I can definitely see the top end of Microsoft taking a good, hard look at Blizzard in particular because of this whole shit, especially if they can fix it and make a good example out of them for bonus points. After all, they do want people on their Xbox service more than ever, circling back to the Metaverse thing. Getting both CoD and WoW Sub on it would be a resounding victory.
@@adamcarlton3312 you're talking about the company that kept releasing os that consumers need to purchase (for no noticeable upgrades for 90% of the users)
This guy and his team works so hard doing testing and research for free. I'm glad he enjoys it but man imagine doing all that volunteer work for years and getting Diablo Immortal as the final result. This must be how it feels to work in games 🤢.
screw working in gaming. its nothing more than a place to fleece the stupid and sucker the gullible. they release half incomplete games and make you pay for them and praise them.
Imagine if he dedicated his time to something that was real and actually mattered. Instead he's in service for FREE to a company that's making billions.
Bobby is absolutely loving this guy. Guarantee Bobby is pocketting every penny this guy is saving Blizzard when they don't have to hire play testers. The money is definitely not going into developing the game or paying the devs.
"Missed the mark" Blizzard said? WTF is Wyatt talking about!?!?! The P2W stuff in Diablo Immortal isn't something where they tweaked some numbers wrong. Like WTF? You guys know about this Legendary Crest thing? You see 3 that you can put in and once you put in 3 suddenly the UI changes and you can put in 10! This isn't some accident! Someone desgined it this way! And this goes for everything in this game. The amount of thought you can see put behind every number is astonishing. EVERYTHING is carefully tuned to maximize profit squeezing. And Wyatt IS THE DUDE THAT'S RESPONSIBLE for this desing. He is the head honcho of the project! Every design in the game goes over his table so to speak! There isn't some shadow cabal second dev team that secretly puts in these micro transactions! Get of your copium dude!
It's a gatcha game. It has a "10 pull" like other gatcha games. That's why 10 crests. And that's why buying 10 crests of shop is the most optimal way to spend the money. Everything is designed for doing 10 pulls. Opening 10 lootboxes. And each gem you slot in = 1 guaranteed legendary gem - so it does not matter, if you run 4 rifts and put 3 + 1 crests in, or if you put all 10 crests in 1 run. In each case you get 10 gems. Running with 10 slotted is the most time efficient. And with everything assumed equal - the chance of getting 5/5 gem is the same - end of the day, you have a roll for each time a gem drops. You wouldn't save any money by spreading those crests in more rift runs. In each case it's ging to cost you a few thousand. So I don't think that's the bad thing about the game at all - for me the bad thing is that it costs a few thousand! You know what price I would find acceptable? 0$. That's right. Running 10 crest rifts should be free. The only thing you gamble is ingame stuff you make by playing the game. Just like normal games work. You should be able to get these crests in game, slot them and run rifts, and there should be no way to buy them. Otherwise the game sucks, and I'm not interested.
Wyatt Cheng is a game director not just a technical lead developer, please don't think he hadn't got the power to make it at least somewhat better for the free players or that he didn't had a saying in all those meetings they had when deciding to make an elder riff cost over 20 bucks for 5 minutes of game play. He is just as guiltily for ruining the game as the rest of the management team.
33:38 I've started to almost ignore AAA titles completely. Only if these games have outstanding reception by players and deliver outstanding quality in some facet or another do I even consider playing them, as that quality is what should be expected at the price points they come in at. P2W, any sort of purchasable advantage in-game, pre-order shenanigans or the like are absolute deal breakers for me. We as players shape the industry with our wallets and we need to be very mindful of that. There are thousands and thousands of brilliant Indie titles and a massive backlog of older titles we've never played that don't try to prey on us and are made with passion and love instead of a laser focus on our bank accounts.
Yeah don't you just love the people who complain about how the gaming industry is fucked now while simultaneously supporting the problematic aspects of it. Lol
@@SquaulDuNeant Actually, playing f2p games but never paying anything helps f2p games grow. It's padding the player base and makes the game more easily marketable to others who might pay.
"We hear you" is one of the most useless things a dev can say to their community. It's said in response to an uproar that cannot be ignored, but the devs have no plans to address the actual issue. The community goes into great detail about what's wrong, how it affects them, and how it might affect the longevity of the game. And all the dev can say is "we can confirm that our eyes and ears are still working, everything you just told us was heard by us, you were not muted and we know you just said some shit." Wow!
It's like a bully punching you, and you scream: "stop punching me!", and he keeps doing it. Then you ask him : "did you hear me? I begged you to stop", and the bully would respond: "Yes! I hear you! loud and clear.", and he would still punch you. Hearing the community does not guarantee doing something about it. Ofc they hear us. Ofc they know people are complaining, that they scored the game at 0.2, they hear everything. They just don't care. And the reason is, they know how to make money. They picked the best strategy. Why the hell would someone think Blizzard would oblige them? You can scream, they can hear, but they won't do anything. They do things that are profitable.
@@javabytes3204 I'm using 'dev' here to refer to the entire game development company as a whole, the tendency of corporate bureaucrats to force actual development staff to ruin their own game is a whole other can of worms.
Tbh as a company, why you even consider changing it when there are people who just pay so much money and after years of gaming still preorder stuff. I think we have to accept it. Or just don’t play the games and if you play you are just one part of the system. If you really want to change Blizzard force you to never play one game for 2 years from blizzard
I remember ion made a comment (multiple times actually) in wow about how the community feels they don’t listen, but they see the feedback and don’t agree basically lol. That’s what I think of whenever a company like blizzard says they’re listening to players after they provide shit like this
How many times has Blizzard had to say "we hear you," since Legion? At some point you simply come to the same conclusion they reached in Wargames: "The only winning move is not to play." Blizzard is just done.
"I do this unfun thing every day in hopes that one day the unfun thing becomes fun" Depressing. There are so many games out there to spend your time with. This is literally what drugs do - convince you to do something you know sucks.
I immediately thought of Halo Infinite. A lot of people hope it'll get better. It's supposed to be live service and updated for ten years, allegedly, so there's a lot of fear of missing out on armor and customizable items, at a time where the game has barely any content.
Yep, there are so many games, especially indie titles, that are so much more deserving of your time and money. We gamers are spoiled with how much we have at our fingertips to play that I just laugh at this game and continue on plucking away at my backlog. I mean we gamers are the ones in charge. We are the ones with all the leverage, not the companies. Come out with a predatory, P2W game? Lol fuck your game, I'm going to go play all this other stuff and give those devs my hard earned money and my precious time.
@@dewrito2325 halo infinite was fun, the issues were armour customisation is restricted, lack of modes and no forge. The gameplay was great, and it didn’t force you to buy shit, its just not enough. Unfortunately this dude has a loyalty problem where he should just play other games and get over immortal, but he doesn’t. The games not made for him. Its made for mobile casuals. And whales.
@@bryanmcloud4121 Even popular games like Elden Ring. Not perfect but it's a regular priced game with a lifetimes worth of content... it's this whole "mobile gamer culture" that's falling for this. That sector needs a hero.
Holy crap, those excel sheets he did... Normally companies hire people to create these and pay them by the hour. This dude doing it for free for a company that ALREADY exploits its fanbase is insane... Not only are they milking their fans dry, this guy even offers free QA work for nothing in return
I can't figure out if I despise or admire Blizzard that it took four guys, four content creators, working their butts off FOR FREE, doing runs, gathering data, inputting it into a spreadsheet, running calculations, performing analysis on it, FOR FREE, to get that balancing in place when internal testing surely could have discovered the issue. It's genius. Why try harder, why pay more, when others will do all the work for you and you don't have to pay them a cent?
well its almost as if these people that keep crying about blizzard FOR YEARS now are delusional of their own role within that situation and blindly support this shit... imagine if they understood how capitalism and todays society work.
same thing i say about Bethesda too. they make an empty shell of a game and then let the moders do all the work. if Skyrim had no mods it wouldn't be as successful as it is
I was really enjoying Diablo Immortal for a few days after launch, but then I realized I could just go back and play D3 or PoE and have more fun with no strings attached, so I did.
I've heard about POE for many years bit haven't really play it. But Diablo Immortal makes me go and download POE. I'm enjoying POE now, thanks Blizzard!
Poor Raxx. I've watched his videos for a long time, so it's genuinely sad to see him this optimistic and think that blizzard actually cares about him. PvP is the main area where the whales can see the reward of their spending. Normalizing PvP is directly contradictory to everything they've set up.
not sure if you can call someone who is still breaindead supporting a corrupt and ignorant company one of the great gamers of our time... sry no, the fact that you like him and he is streaming doesnt make him great.
I feel like this guy is delusional. Its actually so sad. How can you shill that much for a greedy ass company? He's talking about fixing mistakes while Blizzard knew what they were doing and everything in this game is VERY intentional.
28:55 "Maybe I need to write more than 19 pages...." sounds like something a lovesick person would say after their love-note was found wadded up in the trash. :( The level of denial this guy has about the cheap corporate scumbags at Blizzard is heartbreaking.
Imagine them adding a Normalized PVP mode along-side their regular PVP mode. You'd basically have a comparison chart of the best players vs the deepest pockets.
Asmon's completely right, its really hard watching someone getting cuckolded, and I hate that term but I can't think of anything better, he's giving Blizzard WAYYYY too much credit and work for free. They're not going to change anything in Immortal, they can't, they've monetized themselves into a corner, if they change anything meaningful the whales will be pissed and start charging back.
The only way to kill a game is to stop playing, the whales can just kill each other PvP will become real shit when advantage over lesser people realise eventually and leave
I mean they could go to Rocket League route and just give him a cool pack for paying money previously there's nothing wrong with doing that but if the wails get any more mad that's just them projecting the fact that they wasted too much money and they really didn't want to look like idiots so they will hop on a hate bandwagon that more or less is just them crashing into a wall
Besides if I'm being honest this is literally just a John Swan incident where they blame people who didn't pay money for something only to backtrack when the people who did the monetization schemes end up apologizing and try to say they didn't understand the gravity of the situation and more or less will stay mad at the people they wasted their money on and attempts to not look like idiots like I said
At first I thought he was getting payed which explained why he talked like that and basically being so respectful to blizzard', but then I just realized hes just meggggaaaa delusionalll
Something I noticed over the years and this applies to both gaming but also the general work culture is that companies got too used to people just consuming the products they make and people working for them. Years ago there was a whole culture about loyality. If you were hooked on a product or part of a company, you were part of the group around that. And other groups were... not really enemies but they just didnt belong to you. They were rivals. Nowadays, the oposite is the case. Nowadays companies EXPECT loyality but do nothing for it. Just shit out the next product and stuff on the shelves and they expect people to buy it cause yea of course they will. Companies at one point were trying to impress and win customers and workers. Nowadays they know that customers and workers need jobs so they dont care anymore and just shit out whatever to make short money. Its the indies we gotta pay attention to. Small businesses. Cause they have something to lose. They have something to impress us with. They make games and products so they can make it. Not to make money.
The problem with that is there indie until there not. Look at riot games. If not for blizzard being so shit they eclipse al other negative gaming news riot would be just as popular, for being shit.
@@TheNewblade1 Oh no I agree The issue with Riot however is on another level. Riot overall produces quality and therefor, people who just wanna consume their product, dont care because they are having fun. And on the other hand Riot has been in far less big controversies than Blizzard has. Here are some that I know of. Artists not being paid and the Stonehearth Devs being forced to "finish" their game to work on a other project which later failed. What are some of the controversies we know of with blizzard? Dont get me wrong, I think Riot has some shit to worry about just as much. But I feel that Blizzards crap outweighs it in comparison, especially when Riots crap seems to be more focused on specific events rather than being a constant issue.
They act as if the mere existence of their product is something to behold and we are privileged to be able to buy them. Those who do not appreciate that are insolent children who need to be disciplined...
The problem explodes the moment any company becomes public trade. This is because the stock market becomes their fiducial responsibility _by law_ while customers are deluded by pretty words and empty promises into thinking they're still top priority.
The real love in gaming right now is in the indie scene, that's where the real passion is. Games like Ultrakill, Deep rock and No mans sky are one of the best examples of people who love making games. vote with your money by giving blizzard 0$.
You're do right. Been playing things like Steamworld Dig 2 and Rogue Legacy recently and having an absolute blast. I don't want to go anywhere near these massive, so-called AAA games or game devs. They're all as bad as eachother, churning out massive piles of MTX-ridden toxic waste.
I play indie games on my phone and they're so good. So Idk why some ppl justified DI being a P2W game just because it's a mobile game, when there's shit ton good games that aren't P2W in mobile too. Especially indie games.
"it's not the developers' or the designers' fault" someone designed immortal to be a D3 asset flip, which is a separate issue to the monetization issues, and they were basically told or intended to make the cheapest diablo title they could
Developers have some of the blame, director has the rest. If you sign on to be a dev for a triple A company, I think you should have hardened yourself for harassment, because you are gonna get a shit ton more money being the guy who designs the loot pool mechanics than any other team or asset you ever work on. Being the guy who designs and directs the monetization mechanics is to be the literal devil, but it makes you rich. I don't think the poor art student who designs the item skin needs that flak in their Twitter DMS But if you walked in, got told to code a loot table that you knew would be monetized, and still did it instead of walking out... All I'm saying is you had the nuts to do that to people, and ur gonna have to harden ur skin y'know. What happens in ur DMs at that point is an expectation, not a surprise.
It's kinda like if you go into car sales as a career. And now your whole job is to lead people into a contract where you hemorrhage them for money, you kinda have to accept that your position is frowned upon when going into it.
@@fluffypinkpandas unlike a car salesman, working for a AAA studio for 4-8 years looks really good on a resume when you inevitably have to go job hunting
It's pretty amazing how even Asmongold has hopes for D4. People keep expecting Blizzard to do better. Blizzard is just a name, the people that made the company great are gone. The Blizzard we knew is dead. I stopped expecting anything from them in 2012 and I'm so happy I never looked back. Get out of the wheel hamsters. There is more life outside Blizzard.
Did the exact same thing as you. I was just sad at first but now I have realised there so much bretter things out there. They destroy good games and They Will never see me again.
I know he was the story guy (as apposed to gameplay dev) but I feel like Blizzard as we knew it died when Metzen left. Maybe others can think of a time before then.
Listening to Blizzard Devs talk to the community reminds me of hearing a Pimp talk to one of his b*tches, convincing her that it's OK, she's having fun. It reminds me of tobacco companies talking to the senate back in the 70s and 80 - knowing that they are selling poison, lying and pretending everything is ok while still extracting a profit. We used to laugh at console players years ago because they were getting farmed by the big gaming companies... now...
Why were console players farmed? Played on console my whole life, and it was just a matter of going to a game store, buying a disc, going home, yeeting it on my ps3 and I had a full game Simple and fair
@@ElShogoso now console players need to pay sony or Microsoft to play multiplayer, unless it's a f2p game and even then Xbox made you pay for f2p until like last year I think, it used to not be like that. I remember PS3 you didn't need ps plus.
Blizzard didn't mess up. They knew exactly what they were doing. It was intentionally engineered. Also, "We'll see what happens with D4...we can be cautiously optimistic..." How many times has the community said this? For how many patches, expansions, games?
I feel so bad for him when he says that blizzard says "they missed the mark". Blizzard did not miss the mark, they knew what they were doing and they are abusing their fans
7:57 They said GEAR but GEAR is specifically associated with armor/weapons. It's like a lawyer saying only the positives about his client while leaving out that he has recurring prior convictions.
Dave Chappelle has this interesting bit about a pimp's story. The story goes that whenever a girl considered walking away the pimp would beat her up, but then stay by her side and nurture her back to health and the girl would feel like she owed him for that. That story is basically an allegory in case you didn't immediately get it.
@@910suck i'm talking about the guy spending time and energy on the game, who isn't "reacting"--not Asmongold, who is reacting also profit doesn't mean something's good maybe watch the video and think before u post next time denthead
@lord barking I mean one offhand comment and your entire career is done for. Plus, you can ask for raises at a business. Streamers have to contend with eachother by playing popular games a lot of people want to watch, not the niche games they want to play. Like Monster Rancher(Which you should play). Dedicated base, but viewer numbers hover around 30-150 based on lucky raids or establishment in the community. Streaming is not something to take easy. It's more of a side gig until you really get those consistent numbers.
@lord barking I hear you man, I've been playing Age Of Empires 2 and nothing else for almost 25 years, besides that Dota 2 and that's it because I can't afford to buy games, but with my education I can only get trash jobs and I can't afford a better education either.
I would also like to note that back before Whaling in games was a thing what gave gamers advantages over others was better Bandwidth and a Scuff controller. Gamers will never be able to play on the same level as Age, Maturity, Intelligence, Communication and Money will always have factors over others.
This guy legitimately weaponized his game time by consolidating data for Blizzard to farm and manipulate into more efficient ways to extract money from the player.
This dude that Asmongold is reacting to has no clue. I'm a programmer. In any RNG system... literally *anything* that has it like say crafting, chest, drop boxes, etc... they run simulations beforehand and adjust the numbers to produce exactly the numbers (aka items) they want over a certain period. It's part of their system's economy. There are no mistakes here. They have a config file (or db) and they can adjust it any time they want. There's an intentional scarcity and they know exactly what parts they want people to pay for. Asmongold is right. Blizzard was looking at a different mark. edit: Wanted to add this guy is someone that skipped being red pilled and went directly to being white pilled. He knows there's a problem, but doesn't realize there's a problem with the system and thinks it can be fixed. That's not how it works.
He’s high on copium that blizzard is a good company that’s not intentionally trying to fuck every player they can. It’s that abuse ex that says the things you wanna hear and does nothing
Man, watching that whole arc it was like watching an abusive relationship play out. D4 is the toxic boyfriend who has sobered up and is now saying "baby I've sworn off the sauce and I've changed." And then watching the gullible/misguided partner take him back.
Lol literally. They just straight up beat him up and are now love bombing him with "I didn't mean it", "I made I mistake", "I swear I'll chanfe", "here's a bouqet of flowers".... and then go right back to beating the shit out of him. Absolutely nothing is gonna change. Blizzard is gonna throw f2p players a bone or two so that whales have someone to whale on, but if you think they're going to remove any of the p2w shit you're dreaming.
Raxx is an awesome help to the Diablo community. I watch his videos and use his guides on Maxroll. That being said I feel like all it took to attach his lips back to Blizzards butt cheeks was a call from Wyatt and him dangling the carrot of testing D4
This guy thought that all his hard work and research was going going make this game amazing and what it actually did was help them turn the game into the worst predatory version it possibly could be. Ouch...
37:25 This is exactly what Activision did with the Crash Team Racing: Nitro-Fueled. They waited a month after release and then added microtransactions to it. That game series was a massive part of my childhood that my sister, dad, and me played together a lot. I was in college when it came out and actually saving up to buy it. Refuse to do so now though.
I’ll be real with you Asmongold I have no idea how you can make a 10 minute video into a 40 minute video, I’m not referring to this video specifically cause I have not watched it but your ability to incredibly increase video time makes you the best RUclipsr to sleep watch
I mean, it’s not really rocket science, he’s reacting to a video lol any streamer that does react videos has videos 2-3 times longer than the original video itself.
I feel asleep during his hour long FF14 video and didn't even mean to. It's like background noise of two people talking in front of you in a bus or something lol
Just remember how the model works You set an initial ludicrously high micro transaction cost bar You see if the community eat it If they do you double down on the next expansion or DLC until you reach a point where they complain Then the only the way to force the community to accept increased fees is to announce even crazier pricing , all the while planning the actual pricing to be like 50 cheaper So once the pre prepared for rage from the community comes they turn around and say we hear you. We are listening, and because we love you and we care we are dropping all prices 50 percent.......then watch as all the homers call them the greatest thing ever Then rinse and repeat We are almost at that stage with blizzard. I'm guessing diablo 4 will be the double down on immortal and where you'll see the "we listen and care" 50% off scam applied Calling it now It's the same game plan every publishers is pushing at the moment
Dont worry guys/girls blizzard have learnt their lesson, bobby is only getting one yacht with only one heli pad this year, thats how much they respect their payers......
Much respect to the dude for the work and the quality of content he puts out, but... really? Any other community would be ecstatic to have him, "doing dailies hoping that one day the game gets better"? Really? Stop wasting your time with this game. It will never get better. Blizzard hardly respects your time on their flagship titles, you think they'll suddenly turn over their new leaf on a chinese P2W mobile game with a Diablo skin? Someone needs to wake this man up.
It would be different if leggo gems dropped without the need for crests. But as it stands, you essentially MUST pay to play, if you intend to play anything other than just running around killing mobs all day. There are plenty of people defending Blizzard in general chat on DI, it’s insane.
My thought on the "its not the designers/developers fault": It is, partially. Usually development is not someone saying "I want x. Write code y". Its someone saying "Ok, we need feature x and we have you implement it with y and z functionallity." And then the developer does what he does. However there are multiple ways to accomplish x and the developers specifically chose to go the route they are going. Their boss in most cases has no idea how and why the dev did something, he is simply interested in the result. So what I am trying to say with this admittedly a lil wonky example is: Developers arent just code-monkeys. They are not told what to code and then code it, there is choice involved. If it were that easy/rule-based you'd have machines do ALL the coding - not that some code already comes from machines, but thats another topic
I remember there was something early on with D3 where you'd have someone else start the "defeat ZK" quest for act 2, on the highest difficulty they could, and they could carry 1-3 other people. There was something weird, like if you weren't the party leader you could get big exp as though it were the first time you handed it in, but it didn't actually count as you handing it in. Something like that. Levelled all my characters pretty quickly.
what he said: "Blizzard listens to feedback" what I heard: "Blizzard took 1min to adjust sliders after a guys made a whole unpaid professional 72hours analyse."
That should have cost them at least 1000 dollars if not more. Instead they did it for free, out of love for a company that couldnt give a shit about them.
I sooo agree I feel like the odd one when I find out people pay and not little pay.. fucking anything over 50.00 is too much let alone thousands?! You players paying for this are stupid. You have been fooled. Sleep in your bed lol
I dont even plan to play Diablo Immortal but these Asmon react to these players is fun to watch. We need more of these kind of players for more content! 🤣
I don't care if they've "learned their lesson" or are "sorry" for this. I am done with Blizzard until Microsoft takes over and boots out the entire top management of this company. Only then, MAYBE, will I consider installing their garbage again. I feel like this guy is a sucker. He's subservient and in service to Blizzard for FREE and he is trying to go back even though his instinct is telling him not to. It's sad and pathetic.
Those who work for Blizzard today are the ones who accept (or like) the current Blizzard culture, and the ones who can’t get a job somewhere else… Blizzard is over…
Why do people think Microsoft would do such a thing? Microsoft knows what kind of company Blizzard is. They know of their business model. That is the reason they bought them. They want money. And Blizzard is good at making that. If I was Microsoft CEO, I wouldn't kick Bobby out - on the contrary, I would hire him to do some education of my other managers, in how stuff is done!
@@Member_zero You are not aware that when new management comes in, they keep the old guard until they understand the inner workings of the organization they just took over. This is standard business practice for any takeover. They say "minimal changes in how you operate will be made" but what they don't say is, "until we make the changes we're planning to make." This is to make sure employees don't start quitting. The changes are in procedure and upper and middle management. Then they replace everyone. This is standard practice. They are only interested in the products and the developers on staff and how they make their games. That is what they bought. They did not buy the old board of directors. They will be history and replaced by Xbox management.
Never assume Blizzard to be naive about these things, they know exactly what they are doing. "Missing the mark" is just part of their strategy. Their target audience are not longer gamers, but shareholders.
People forgot what games should be about. Majority thinks its normal that they buy(or download for free) the game and then participate in it by using their wallets. Earning things in a game????? Wtf???? Why? That's typical thinking of modern gamer.
I watched many guides of Raxx while playing D3, it was super useful and i with a bit luck and paid rest time, somehow forced my way to top 5 and finished season at top 50. His dedication and love for the game is real and tbf while i'm very pessimistic about D4 i also firmly believe if a change may happen that would be cause of people like Raxx. It is hopium but i really want to have a good D4, played series since Diablo, really get sad after their cheap D3's anniversary text and Dimmoral fiasco. My last hope is D4.
Asmongold: Has the power and influence to illicit responses from Blizzard, Ted Cruz, and dozens of others. Makes more money then me by an abnoxious amount. Also Asmongold: Looks like the guy who's gonna cross the street to bum a cigarette from you at the bus stop. Just some light humor. Love you man.
Blizzard has been playing this same trick for years now: They'll release something that's 85% over the line godawful, wait for fan backlash, tweak the numbers by 10-15% and rake in the goodwill for being "responsive to community feedback". They make the game extra shit just to seem like good boys for toning it down *slightly*. And instead of being *slightly* less angry, the fans think they've won some grand concession! It's amazing.
Its the same thing right wing people do all over the world. Because if you make it 85% worse, then change it to 65% it doesnt seem so bad anymore. And 65% was exactly how bad they wanted it. But if they went in raw 65% people would have been mad and expected at least 45% bad. Its really sad to see this guy become entranced by abusive blizzard. Its probably been a life long dream to work with blizzard. They are taking advantage of him and hes loving it. So sad.
I 100% agree with your sentiment about trying to find hope with these big companies. The future of good games is unfortunately going to be with smaller studios.
Love your videos, Asmongold. In China, there are many pay-to-win games like diablo Immortal, which make really a lot of money for these companies. But most Chinese players just get used to it and let them do it. This game uses the IP of "Diablo" to squeeze money from players. The operation pattern is just a money generator. In China, the reputation of "NetEase" is very bad. Paying money will not make you a whale or the ultimate whale. YOU HAVE TO PAY A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY AND TIME. That produces work opportunities for some game studios. The game studios guys help these rich and stupid players play the game. IF it is necessary, some skillful guys from the studio will help the owner to do PVP-related things. The Blizzard learned a lot from NetEase. The Blizzard has tasted the blood. This game without the skin of "Diablo", would be shit. In the future, NetEase will cooperate with Blizzard to develop more money generator machines like this.
This guy seems like a good dude. But this is such copium. Blizzard reached out as a PR move. The whole thing about they missed the mark or got this bit wrong is nonsense and tries to gloss over the central issue here: The implementation of P2W in this game is predatory on multiple levels and Blizzard have fallen a long way to put out such a game. Exaclty as Asmon said early in the video. They have offered these minor contritions to regain some good will, however the game remains rotten to its core
I just want to say I'm proud of my brother that was able to reach 1485 GS currently on Lost Ark (NA East Server*), and never NEVER spent a dime on it. He's enjoying the game, never spent anything, and able to appreciate every time he succeeds in upgrading each of his items towards +20. His weapon is currently a Tier 3 Relic +21 Weapon. He keeps a daily routine in the game, keeps at it. (He has work also* So he has the means to pay but chose not to*) :>
One thing to keep in mind is these publicly traded companies are slaves to the shareholders. They're expected to do the thing that makes the most money and there needs to be a public backlash that causes the shareholders to panic before they're allowed to dial it back. Expect it from any traded company. If the CEOs didn't do this the shareholders would vote them out. I mean think about it, if you were a Blizzard shareholder who didn't care about gaming wouldn't you want to hear they had an opportunity to make insane amounts of money?
@@martinhellstrom9299 Unless you got enough money to put a 10% or higher stake in Blizzard/Activision, you're not going to change anything. I can't even really blame the shareholders either as someone who invests (not in Blizzard) because just like you or I as gamers want them to make good games, the shareholders want them to make good money. Luckily there are tons of indie developers out there that aren't being published by major companies that don't have these constraints.
Im gonna buy D4 because im clinging on the the last little hope i have for any blizz game, however that's for diablo because of nostalgia, not touching Dragonflight tho. last 2 expansions were a huge turn off, last time i remember having atleast somewhat fun in wow was Legion, and before that... wotlk for me. so wow is over for me unless i'w seen great reviews and a steady playerbase.
Like I said, I will definitely buy Diablo 4 even tho I hate Blizz. The urge to be the part of all those ppl trying thr game at the lunch and grinding the hell out of it is way too big. I will not pre-order it as I dont trust them but in 99% even if its gonna be p2w I wanna be there, I missed D3 lunch and I feel like I lost good time. Time will tell how D4 will end up.
I dont necessarily disaggree that he might be addicted, but you are literally putting words into his mouth. He said he only does the dailies. That takes for him 5 minutes max.
@@christianadler3532 Then I guess he lied and doesn't just do dailies, because the couple of recent streams I checked out he was playing for 1-2 hours.
The worst part is when they take you out to burger king, you think they're gonna order you something, and instead they grab a half eaten whopper out of the garbage.
He wants to know what happened to games just coming out full and complete? Companies fired their entire QA depts and now use the player base to test and make spreadsheets to fix and balance their games. Until people stop testing their games for free, they won't come out complete. Why would they?
The reason I'm being this to your attention is because I feel that you can repercent my position better than some content people out there. Because when I celebrated my birthday and the 43 years of gaming I thought of the positive things I experienced gaming for 43 years and I also thought of the negative experiences that I have come across in these many years. I prefer to keep in mind of the positive. But I am at the side of courshion with these 4 game companies because of the reason s stated. I am not being hipperbolic by saying I going to walk away from those game companies. I hope that they treat these games well. And it is going to be a very sad day if these games come out being disrespected and also me saying goodbye forever to these companies because of games I have come to love or because I followed them for years because am looking forward for to there next game or have been interested in a new ip. Thanks for reading this sorry about my spelling.
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I feel Diablo Imortal is just a test bed to see how far they can push their monetization (plus push their fans) before implementing monetization into the D4 release.
God dam it that “shit eater” part took me out 😢😂 I’m going to step away from a P2W mobile game that I’ve been playing since I was 15 (I’m 23 now) Sometimes we need reputable people that won’t sugarcoat things to wake us up. This is the first video I’ve watched of yours, thankyou. ❤
Guys, guys, don't worry Blizzard investigated themselves and found out they aren't pay to win 😉 lol🤣
Glad we are in the clear 😂
Perfect comment!
LoL perfect!
Good news, time to reinstall the game.🥳
Take my like
This is like talking to a friend in an abusive relationship. When he's like, "no, man. I know she's crazy and she flips out, but she said she's really sorry and she's going to try to change. She really does love me. I know it'll work out. Just support me."
I feel bad for him. He spent so much time playing the Alpha, giving them all this detailed feedback... when the whole time, the goal of D:I was to milk as much cash out of fools as they could. Best thing for him right now would be to just dump the game and never give it a second thought.
That’s exactly what I was about to comment. It’s eerily similar if not exactly the same. Unfortunately I speak from experience.
"I know it'll work out. Just support me." - is what were the man's last words to his friends, before he was found dead with several knife wounds in his back
@@bopeswiththemost4415 they want to milk cash and steal time! You know why this company name is Blizzard, because it makes you slow in life!
That sound like amber heard to me for some reason
Professional QA here. This dude doing my job for free is the saddest thing ever. He sounds on the verge of tears thanking his overlords for the opportunity to waste his time completely in the name of perfecting a predatory product. Dude needs an intervention
It's like
A concubine
Of a sex cult
Who escaped it once after reaching the age of 18
Coming back and helping design the cult scripture to improve the systems in which abuse occurs
Out of sheer will
For free? They make a killing on their website for playing the game.. You talking about Raxx?
@@RedX1II They don't have to QA the game for Blizzard though, all that work for free is not payed.
@@fluffypinkpandas you okay dude, that sounds a little too real, are you currently restructuring a cult so you can resurrect some ancient evil, while also committing child abuse.
I did the same thing for LinkedIn. I got to 120k+ post impressions and people like 'pro baseball player' 'radio show host' and 'foreign minister' in my demographics. I actually asked AWS and GCP with hashtags in LI posts to bring down LinkedIn. They blew them the fuck up (and Facebook, whoops). I went live on twitch and Amazon watched with me as we saw them slowly put LinkedIn back together. Then Microsoft got smart. They fixed LinkedIn (no not the intentionally bad features like the shitty activity history and time wasting viral content features). Did they give me a job as a QA? Fuck no I already did a great job for free. Sadly triggered a manic episode for me and I was too busy going crazy to record any of the evidence. That twitch Vod would have been legendary to save.
In abusive relationships there's a term called "breadcrumbing", where one partner does just enough to keep the relationship alive, by occasionally doing wildly special things but being a complete ass or negligent most of the other time. Game companies are doing this with their players to get them to spend money, it's absurd.
@@darianstarfrog yup
I needed to hear this, thank you, now time to get over the fact I've been breadcrumbed alot.
Watching this guy being so hopeful legit almost made me cry.
This is a fucking tragedy, he is destined to continue to hope and have his hopes shattered over and over and over and over again… it’s like Roman myth tragedy tale
Greek myth. Not Roman.
There is a slither of hope once the Microsoft takeover is finalized. Hopefully they restructure the company and focus less on predatory profit making tactics and more on just making good products.
@@adamcarlton3312 I mean, sorta yes. Microsoft wants to acquire Activision for Metaverse reasons, but as a company, they are far more look at the long term rather than the short because similar to Valve they have fuck you money that isn't attached to game making.
But, as shown with Halo Infinite, they generally leave devs be to their own shit, for good or ill. Microsoft did originally set up that employment scheme that resulted in 343 basically only being made of 18-month contract developers, but it wasn't for that purpose and I don't even know if they cared too much. Now I can definitely see the top end of Microsoft taking a good, hard look at Blizzard in particular because of this whole shit, especially if they can fix it and make a good example out of them for bonus points.
After all, they do want people on their Xbox service more than ever, circling back to the Metaverse thing. Getting both CoD and WoW Sub on it would be a resounding victory.
@@Orrissan yeah that's exactly what i mean :)
@@adamcarlton3312 you're talking about the company that kept releasing os that consumers need to purchase (for no noticeable upgrades for 90% of the users)
This guy and his team works so hard doing testing and research for free. I'm glad he enjoys it but man imagine doing all that volunteer work for years and getting Diablo Immortal as the final result. This must be how it feels to work in games 🤢.
it's not entirely for free, most/all the people he plays with do twitch/youtube
@@barial1 well its free for Blizz, i think thats what OP meant
screw working in gaming. its nothing more than a place to fleece the stupid and sucker the gullible. they release half incomplete games and make you pay for them and praise them.
The real sad Thing is that he still thinks what they do is just not by Design. He thinks it will get better. Its insane.
Imagine if he dedicated his time to something that was real and actually mattered. Instead he's in service for FREE to a company that's making billions.
Bobby is absolutely loving this guy. Guarantee Bobby is pocketting every penny this guy is saving Blizzard when they don't have to hire play testers. The money is definitely not going into developing the game or paying the devs.
It's for Bobby :D
Bobby collects little and not so little diamonds to ornate his golden parachute with his time left at Antivision.
DO IT FOR BOBBY!!!
BOBBY IS LIFE!!!!
WWBD!!! WHAT WOULD BOBBY DO
Bobby might be the true devil
@@darkmistico BLASPHEMER
"Missed the mark" Blizzard said? WTF is Wyatt talking about!?!?! The P2W stuff in Diablo Immortal isn't something where they tweaked some numbers wrong. Like WTF? You guys know about this Legendary Crest thing? You see 3 that you can put in and once you put in 3 suddenly the UI changes and you can put in 10!
This isn't some accident! Someone desgined it this way!
And this goes for everything in this game. The amount of thought you can see put behind every number is astonishing. EVERYTHING is carefully tuned to maximize profit squeezing.
And Wyatt IS THE DUDE THAT'S RESPONSIBLE for this desing. He is the head honcho of the project! Every design in the game goes over his table so to speak! There isn't some shadow cabal second dev team that secretly puts in these micro transactions! Get of your copium dude!
So true, unfortunately though
It's a gatcha game. It has a "10 pull" like other gatcha games. That's why 10 crests. And that's why buying 10 crests of shop is the most optimal way to spend the money. Everything is designed for doing 10 pulls. Opening 10 lootboxes.
And each gem you slot in = 1 guaranteed legendary gem - so it does not matter, if you run 4 rifts and put 3 + 1 crests in, or if you put all 10 crests in 1 run. In each case you get 10 gems. Running with 10 slotted is the most time efficient. And with everything assumed equal - the chance of getting 5/5 gem is the same - end of the day, you have a roll for each time a gem drops. You wouldn't save any money by spreading those crests in more rift runs. In each case it's ging to cost you a few thousand.
So I don't think that's the bad thing about the game at all - for me the bad thing is that it costs a few thousand! You know what price I would find acceptable? 0$. That's right. Running 10 crest rifts should be free. The only thing you gamble is ingame stuff you make by playing the game. Just like normal games work. You should be able to get these crests in game, slot them and run rifts, and there should be no way to buy them. Otherwise the game sucks, and I'm not interested.
This guy is a fool. Wyatt is responsible for ALL of this.
Wyatt Cheng is a game director not just a technical lead developer, please don't think he hadn't got the power to make it at least somewhat better for the free players or that he didn't had a saying in all those meetings they had when deciding to make an elder riff cost over 20 bucks for 5 minutes of game play. He is just as guiltily for ruining the game as the rest of the management team.
33:38 I've started to almost ignore AAA titles completely. Only if these games have outstanding reception by players and deliver outstanding quality in some facet or another do I even consider playing them, as that quality is what should be expected at the price points they come in at. P2W, any sort of purchasable advantage in-game, pre-order shenanigans or the like are absolute deal breakers for me. We as players shape the industry with our wallets and we need to be very mindful of that.
There are thousands and thousands of brilliant Indie titles and a massive backlog of older titles we've never played that don't try to prey on us and are made with passion and love instead of a laser focus on our bank accounts.
Yeah don't you just love the people who complain about how the gaming industry is fucked now while simultaneously supporting the problematic aspects of it. Lol
@@SquaulDuNeant Actually, playing f2p games but never paying anything helps f2p games grow. It's padding the player base and makes the game more easily marketable to others who might pay.
"We hear you" is one of the most useless things a dev can say to their community. It's said in response to an uproar that cannot be ignored, but the devs have no plans to address the actual issue. The community goes into great detail about what's wrong, how it affects them, and how it might affect the longevity of the game. And all the dev can say is "we can confirm that our eyes and ears are still working, everything you just told us was heard by us, you were not muted and we know you just said some shit."
Wow!
It's like a bully punching you, and you scream: "stop punching me!", and he keeps doing it. Then you ask him : "did you hear me? I begged you to stop", and the bully would respond: "Yes! I hear you! loud and clear.", and he would still punch you.
Hearing the community does not guarantee doing something about it. Ofc they hear us. Ofc they know people are complaining, that they scored the game at 0.2, they hear everything. They just don't care. And the reason is, they know how to make money. They picked the best strategy. Why the hell would someone think Blizzard would oblige them? You can scream, they can hear, but they won't do anything. They do things that are profitable.
actions are better than "we hear you" i dont mind the response if they show it through actions which they fail.
Why do you believe that the devs are the ones making the decisions (unless it's an indie studio or something like that)?
@@javabytes3204 I'm using 'dev' here to refer to the entire game development company as a whole, the tendency of corporate bureaucrats to force actual development staff to ruin their own game is a whole other can of worms.
@@javabytes3204 to be more specific the company.
When companies like Blizzard say “we hear you” they mean we hear you but we love the money we get from you way too much to change.
It means "we hear you and we're gonna find a way to shut you up"
Tbh as a company, why you even consider changing it when there are people who just pay so much money and after years of gaming still preorder stuff. I think we have to accept it. Or just don’t play the games and if you play you are just one part of the system. If you really want to change Blizzard force you to never play one game for 2 years from blizzard
I remember ion made a comment (multiple times actually) in wow about how the community feels they don’t listen, but they see the feedback and don’t agree basically lol. That’s what I think of whenever a company like blizzard says they’re listening to players after they provide shit like this
"we hear you... but the money is also talking over you"
How many times has Blizzard had to say "we hear you," since Legion? At some point you simply come to the same conclusion they reached in Wargames: "The only winning move is not to play." Blizzard is just done.
"I do this unfun thing every day in hopes that one day the unfun thing becomes fun"
Depressing. There are so many games out there to spend your time with. This is literally what drugs do - convince you to do something you know sucks.
I immediately thought of Halo Infinite. A lot of people hope it'll get better. It's supposed to be live service and updated for ten years, allegedly, so there's a lot of fear of missing out on armor and customizable items, at a time where the game has barely any content.
Yep, there are so many games, especially indie titles, that are so much more deserving of your time and money. We gamers are spoiled with how much we have at our fingertips to play that I just laugh at this game and continue on plucking away at my backlog.
I mean we gamers are the ones in charge. We are the ones with all the leverage, not the companies.
Come out with a predatory, P2W game? Lol fuck your game, I'm going to go play all this other stuff and give those devs my hard earned money and my precious time.
@@dewrito2325 Oh man, so many things to love about Infinite, that disappointing skeleton of a game. Strong bones with no guts!
@@dewrito2325 halo infinite was fun, the issues were armour customisation is restricted, lack of modes and no forge. The gameplay was great, and it didn’t force you to buy shit, its just not enough.
Unfortunately this dude has a loyalty problem where he should just play other games and get over immortal, but he doesn’t. The games not made for him. Its made for mobile casuals. And whales.
@@bryanmcloud4121 Even popular games like Elden Ring. Not perfect but it's a regular priced game with a lifetimes worth of content... it's this whole "mobile gamer culture" that's falling for this. That sector needs a hero.
Holy crap, those excel sheets he did...
Normally companies hire people to create these and pay them by the hour.
This dude doing it for free for a company that ALREADY exploits its fanbase is insane...
Not only are they milking their fans dry, this guy even offers free QA work for nothing in return
I can't figure out if I despise or admire Blizzard that it took four guys, four content creators, working their butts off FOR FREE, doing runs, gathering data, inputting it into a spreadsheet, running calculations, performing analysis on it, FOR FREE, to get that balancing in place when internal testing surely could have discovered the issue. It's genius. Why try harder, why pay more, when others will do all the work for you and you don't have to pay them a cent?
well its almost as if these people that keep crying about blizzard FOR YEARS now are delusional of their own role within that situation and blindly support this shit... imagine if they understood how capitalism and todays society work.
@@DrOinkman In reality there are multiple people with different opinions and not all of them are hypocrites, but sadly, too many are.
unpaid interns
it is free for blizzard, but is it not compensated via youtube/twitch? still bad, but not janny free
same thing i say about Bethesda too. they make an empty shell of a game and then let the moders do all the work. if Skyrim had no mods it wouldn't be as successful as it is
I was really enjoying Diablo Immortal for a few days after launch, but then I realized I could just go back and play D3 or PoE and have more fun with no strings attached, so I did.
Good on you. PoE is so much fun hey!
Same
Same. I hopped back into D3, played a crusader up to paragon 40, got bored and moved on with my life.
Best thing about Diablo Immortal is you can play it on the toilet - because that's where it belongs!
I've heard about POE for many years bit haven't really play it. But Diablo Immortal makes me go and download POE. I'm enjoying POE now, thanks Blizzard!
Poor Raxx. I've watched his videos for a long time, so it's genuinely sad to see him this optimistic and think that blizzard actually cares about him. PvP is the main area where the whales can see the reward of their spending. Normalizing PvP is directly contradictory to everything they've set up.
Raxx is one of the great gamers of our time. It's a shame to see him farmed by blizz
@@Nostromo2144 yes! rhykker and raxx are both amazing! both put out very solid content info
not sure if you can call someone who is still breaindead supporting a corrupt and ignorant company one of the great gamers of our time... sry no, the fact that you like him and he is streaming doesnt make him great.
@@DrOinkman he is one of the most dedicated arpg content creators out there and there's not many competitors
I feel like this guy is delusional. Its actually so sad. How can you shill that much for a greedy ass company? He's talking about fixing mistakes while Blizzard knew what they were doing and everything in this game is VERY intentional.
28:55 "Maybe I need to write more than 19 pages...." sounds like something a lovesick person would say after their love-note was found wadded up in the trash. :(
The level of denial this guy has about the cheap corporate scumbags at Blizzard is heartbreaking.
Imagine them adding a Normalized PVP mode along-side their regular PVP mode.
You'd basically have a comparison chart of the best players vs the deepest pockets.
Asmon's completely right, its really hard watching someone getting cuckolded, and I hate that term but I can't think of anything better, he's giving Blizzard WAYYYY too much credit and work for free. They're not going to change anything in Immortal, they can't, they've monetized themselves into a corner, if they change anything meaningful the whales will be pissed and start charging back.
that can make crsts drop from mobs the same way monster essence drops.
The only way to kill a game is to stop playing, the whales can just kill each other PvP will become real shit when advantage over lesser people realise eventually and leave
I mean they could go to Rocket League route and just give him a cool pack for paying money previously there's nothing wrong with doing that but if the wails get any more mad that's just them projecting the fact that they wasted too much money and they really didn't want to look like idiots so they will hop on a hate bandwagon that more or less is just them crashing into a wall
Besides if I'm being honest this is literally just a John Swan incident where they blame people who didn't pay money for something only to backtrack when the people who did the monetization schemes end up apologizing and try to say they didn't understand the gravity of the situation and more or less will stay mad at the people they wasted their money on and attempts to not look like idiots like I said
At first I thought he was getting payed which explained why he talked like that and basically being so respectful to blizzard', but then I just realized hes just meggggaaaa delusionalll
Something I noticed over the years and this applies to both gaming but also the general work culture is that companies got too used to people just consuming the products they make and people working for them. Years ago there was a whole culture about loyality. If you were hooked on a product or part of a company, you were part of the group around that. And other groups were... not really enemies but they just didnt belong to you. They were rivals. Nowadays, the oposite is the case.
Nowadays companies EXPECT loyality but do nothing for it. Just shit out the next product and stuff on the shelves and they expect people to buy it cause yea of course they will.
Companies at one point were trying to impress and win customers and workers. Nowadays they know that customers and workers need jobs so they dont care anymore and just shit out whatever to make short money.
Its the indies we gotta pay attention to. Small businesses. Cause they have something to lose. They have something to impress us with. They make games and products so they can make it. Not to make money.
The problem with that is there indie until there not. Look at riot games. If not for blizzard being so shit they eclipse al other negative gaming news riot would be just as popular, for being shit.
@@TheNewblade1 Oh no I agree
The issue with Riot however is on another level. Riot overall produces quality and therefor, people who just wanna consume their product, dont care because they are having fun.
And on the other hand Riot has been in far less big controversies than Blizzard has. Here are some that I know of. Artists not being paid and the Stonehearth Devs being forced to "finish" their game to work on a other project which later failed.
What are some of the controversies we know of with blizzard? Dont get me wrong, I think Riot has some shit to worry about just as much. But I feel that Blizzards crap outweighs it in comparison, especially when Riots crap seems to be more focused on specific events rather than being a constant issue.
They act as if the mere existence of their product is something to behold and we are privileged to be able to buy them. Those who do not appreciate that are insolent children who need to be disciplined...
The problem explodes the moment any company becomes public trade. This is because the stock market becomes their fiducial responsibility _by law_ while customers are deluded by pretty words and empty promises into thinking they're still top priority.
Companies try to impress their investors... they are ot persuing customers anymore
The real love in gaming right now is in the indie scene, that's where the real passion is. Games like Ultrakill, Deep rock and No mans sky are one of the best examples of people who love making games.
vote with your money by giving blizzard 0$.
You're do right. Been playing things like Steamworld Dig 2 and Rogue Legacy recently and having an absolute blast.
I don't want to go anywhere near these massive, so-called AAA games or game devs. They're all as bad as eachother, churning out massive piles of MTX-ridden toxic waste.
True, indie games have been consistently better than AAA games since the early 2010s
I play indie games on my phone and they're so good. So Idk why some ppl justified DI being a P2W game just because it's a mobile game, when there's shit ton good games that aren't P2W in mobile too. Especially indie games.
"it's not the developers' or the designers' fault"
someone designed immortal to be a D3 asset flip, which is a separate issue to the monetization issues, and they were basically told or intended to make the cheapest diablo title they could
Developers have some of the blame, director has the rest.
If you sign on to be a dev for a triple A company, I think you should have hardened yourself for harassment, because you are gonna get a shit ton more money being the guy who designs the loot pool mechanics than any other team or asset you ever work on. Being the guy who designs and directs the monetization mechanics is to be the literal devil, but it makes you rich.
I don't think the poor art student who designs the item skin needs that flak in their Twitter DMS
But if you walked in, got told to code a loot table that you knew would be monetized, and still did it instead of walking out... All I'm saying is you had the nuts to do that to people, and ur gonna have to harden ur skin y'know. What happens in ur DMs at that point is an expectation, not a surprise.
It's kinda like if you go into car sales as a career.
And now your whole job is to lead people into a contract where you hemorrhage them for money, you kinda have to accept that your position is frowned upon when going into it.
@@fluffypinkpandas unlike a car salesman, working for a AAA studio for 4-8 years looks really good on a resume when you inevitably have to go job hunting
@@RealWaffles truuuuue
It's pretty amazing how even Asmongold has hopes for D4. People keep expecting Blizzard to do better. Blizzard is just a name, the people that made the company great are gone. The Blizzard we knew is dead. I stopped expecting anything from them in 2012 and I'm so happy I never looked back. Get out of the wheel hamsters. There is more life outside Blizzard.
Did the exact same thing as you. I was just sad at first but now I have realised there so much bretter things out there. They destroy good games and They Will never see me again.
I dropped everything Blizzard a couple of years ago and I'm enjoying using the ex-wow time to play indies. There are such gems with so much soul.
Legion last good expansion it ain't Gonna get better than that sadly
I know he was the story guy (as apposed to gameplay dev) but I feel like Blizzard as we knew it died when Metzen left.
Maybe others can think of a time before then.
@@AcousticOlli Clearly, you do not keep with with recent D4 announcements from Blizzard.
Listening to Blizzard Devs talk to the community reminds me of hearing a Pimp talk to one of his b*tches, convincing her that it's OK, she's having fun.
It reminds me of tobacco companies talking to the senate back in the 70s and 80 - knowing that they are selling poison, lying and pretending everything is ok while still extracting a profit.
We used to laugh at console players years ago because they were getting farmed by the big gaming companies... now...
In your analogy the devs would be the workers in the tobacco factory...
Why were console players farmed? Played on console my whole life, and it was just a matter of going to a game store, buying a disc, going home, yeeting it on my ps3 and I had a full game
Simple and fair
@@ElShogoso not that part, buying a game is fine, we laughed at buying weapons or passes etc, that's where some pc gaming IS though.
@@ElShogoso now console players need to pay sony or Microsoft to play multiplayer, unless it's a f2p game and even then Xbox made you pay for f2p until like last year I think, it used to not be like that. I remember PS3 you didn't need ps plus.
@@elitereptilian200 you still need gold to play multiplayer, just not for f2p games
Blizzard didn't mess up. They knew exactly what they were doing. It was intentionally engineered. Also, "We'll see what happens with D4...we can be cautiously optimistic..." How many times has the community said this? For how many patches, expansions, games?
People believe earth is flat so seeing Blizzard have their own mindless cult isn't surprising
way too many if you ask me, i am really done with diablo and lots of other stuff, not just blizzard
@@FXFXFXFX love it, great response
@@FXFXFXFX Exactly. And I still see people wearing an itchy surgeon's mask, believing they're warding off evil spirits. Human nature.
I feel so bad for him when he says that blizzard says "they missed the mark". Blizzard did not miss the mark, they knew what they were doing and they are abusing their fans
7:57 They said GEAR but GEAR is specifically associated with armor/weapons. It's like a lawyer saying only the positives about his client while leaving out that he has recurring prior convictions.
Dave Chappelle has this interesting bit about a pimp's story.
The story goes that whenever a girl considered walking away the pimp would beat her up, but then stay by her side and nurture her back to health and the girl would feel like she owed him for that.
That story is basically an allegory in case you didn't immediately get it.
That's how all pimps work. Not A pimp
Wait, this wasn't literally what Blizzard is doing but like meant in a symbolic way?
Wooooow...
Stockholm syndrome
Makes me sad to see this guy spend so much time and energy FOR FREE on a game and a company that so clearly doesn't deserve any of it.
@@910suck
i'm talking about the guy spending time and energy on the game, who isn't "reacting"--not Asmongold, who is reacting
also profit doesn't mean something's good
maybe watch the video and think before u post next time denthead
"Do you not have hundreds of thousands of dollars?"
@lord barking I mean one offhand comment and your entire career is done for. Plus, you can ask for raises at a business. Streamers have to contend with eachother by playing popular games a lot of people want to watch, not the niche games they want to play. Like Monster Rancher(Which you should play). Dedicated base, but viewer numbers hover around 30-150 based on lucky raids or establishment in the community.
Streaming is not something to take easy. It's more of a side gig until you really get those consistent numbers.
"Do you not have the GDP of a small island nation?"
@lord barking I hear you man, I've been playing Age Of Empires 2 and nothing else for almost 25 years, besides that Dota 2 and that's it because I can't afford to buy games, but with my education I can only get trash jobs and I can't afford a better education either.
I would also like to note that back before Whaling in games was a thing what gave gamers advantages over others was better Bandwidth and a Scuff controller. Gamers will never be able to play on the same level as Age, Maturity, Intelligence, Communication and Money will always have factors over others.
This guy legitimately weaponized his game time by consolidating data for Blizzard to farm and manipulate into more efficient ways to extract money from the player.
This dude that Asmongold is reacting to has no clue. I'm a programmer. In any RNG system... literally *anything* that has it like say crafting, chest, drop boxes, etc... they run simulations beforehand and adjust the numbers to produce exactly the numbers (aka items) they want over a certain period. It's part of their system's economy. There are no mistakes here. They have a config file (or db) and they can adjust it any time they want. There's an intentional scarcity and they know exactly what parts they want people to pay for. Asmongold is right. Blizzard was looking at a different mark.
edit: Wanted to add this guy is someone that skipped being red pilled and went directly to being white pilled. He knows there's a problem, but doesn't realize there's a problem with the system and thinks it can be fixed. That's not how it works.
Damn. You shouldnt be eating random pills like that.
He’s high on copium that blizzard is a good company that’s not intentionally trying to fuck every player they can. It’s that abuse ex that says the things you wanna hear and does nothing
It amazes me how someone can spend so much time online and not become a leftist or at least anti-capitalist.
@@TheNewblade1 I'm not either I have no clue what those terms mean.
@@boratwilson9916 lol I'm amazed. I can understand not knowing vaush or Dylan burbs but you're telling me you don't even watch destiny or Hasan.
Man, watching that whole arc it was like watching an abusive relationship play out. D4 is the toxic boyfriend who has sobered up and is now saying "baby I've sworn off the sauce and I've changed." And then watching the gullible/misguided partner take him back.
Lol literally. They just straight up beat him up and are now love bombing him with "I didn't mean it", "I made I mistake", "I swear I'll chanfe", "here's a bouqet of flowers".... and then go right back to beating the shit out of him.
Absolutely nothing is gonna change. Blizzard is gonna throw f2p players a bone or two so that whales have someone to whale on, but if you think they're going to remove any of the p2w shit you're dreaming.
Was it Texas-styled, spicy BBQ sauce? Mmmm, yummy!
Raxx is an awesome help to the Diablo community. I watch his videos and use his guides on Maxroll. That being said I feel like all it took to attach his lips back to Blizzards butt cheeks was a call from Wyatt and him dangling the carrot of testing D4
This guy thought that all his hard work and research was going going make this game amazing and what it actually did was help them turn the game into the worst predatory version it possibly could be. Ouch...
Burger King is an overstatement. More like a a workplace pizza party where you only get one slice.
"You fuck em raw, and then you take em out to Burger King"
.... me, looking down at my plate of burger king........
man that was some timing lol
Lol
"Plate"... "Burger King"...
I feel so F2P now... best I get is a box and a napkin.
Raxx and the Maxroll team are some *REAL* stand up dudes. Really the kind that we need to have in gaming communities.
Poor guy did all that work for free. And somehow doesn't realize they still don't give a shit about him at all
37:25 This is exactly what Activision did with the Crash Team Racing: Nitro-Fueled. They waited a month after release and then added microtransactions to it. That game series was a massive part of my childhood that my sister, dad, and me played together a lot. I was in college when it came out and actually saving up to buy it. Refuse to do so now though.
You're doing God's work Asmond. Keep calling the scumbags out!
Nice to see you watching raxx I've been watching him for a long time he is such a chill guy and a fantastic diablo player
yes he provides always the best and most informative diablo content about seasons and everything
Anyone who does the weekly challnge rift A+!
I’ll be real with you Asmongold I have no idea how you can make a 10 minute video into a 40 minute video, I’m not referring to this video specifically cause I have not watched it but your ability to incredibly increase video time makes you the best RUclipsr to sleep watch
Fr i ask myself the whole time how he does this
@@Gigachad-rx9uy he pauses every 5 seconds
@@mr.voidroy6869 fair enough
I mean, it’s not really rocket science, he’s reacting to a video lol any streamer that does react videos has videos 2-3 times longer than the original video itself.
I feel asleep during his hour long FF14 video and didn't even mean to. It's like background noise of two people talking in front of you in a bus or something lol
Just remember how the model works
You set an initial ludicrously high micro transaction cost bar
You see if the community eat it
If they do you double down on the next expansion or DLC until you reach a point where they complain
Then the only the way to force the community to accept increased fees is to announce even crazier pricing , all the while planning the actual pricing to be like 50 cheaper
So once the pre prepared for rage from the community comes they turn around and say we hear you. We are listening, and because we love you and we care we are dropping all prices 50 percent.......then watch as all the homers call them the greatest thing ever
Then rinse and repeat
We are almost at that stage with blizzard. I'm guessing diablo 4 will be the double down on immortal and where you'll see the "we listen and care" 50% off scam applied
Calling it now
It's the same game plan every publishers is pushing at the moment
I remember doing Baalruns over and over, because the XP was so absurd that made the rest of the game at a harder difficulty irrelevant.
The Burger King analogy is underrated. Nice vid, man
Dont worry guys/girls blizzard have learnt their lesson, bobby is only getting one yacht with only one heli pad this year, thats how much they respect their payers......
Sounds like that south park episode
Much respect to the dude for the work and the quality of content he puts out, but... really? Any other community would be ecstatic to have him, "doing dailies hoping that one day the game gets better"? Really?
Stop wasting your time with this game. It will never get better. Blizzard hardly respects your time on their flagship titles, you think they'll suddenly turn over their new leaf on a chinese P2W mobile game with a Diablo skin? Someone needs to wake this man up.
It would be different if leggo gems dropped without the need for crests. But as it stands, you essentially MUST pay to play, if you intend to play anything other than just running around killing mobs all day. There are plenty of people defending Blizzard in general chat on DI, it’s insane.
My thought on the "its not the designers/developers fault": It is, partially. Usually development is not someone saying "I want x. Write code y". Its someone saying "Ok, we need feature x and we have you implement it with y and z functionallity." And then the developer does what he does. However there are multiple ways to accomplish x and the developers specifically chose to go the route they are going. Their boss in most cases has no idea how and why the dev did something, he is simply interested in the result. So what I am trying to say with this admittedly a lil wonky example is: Developers arent just code-monkeys. They are not told what to code and then code it, there is choice involved. If it were that easy/rule-based you'd have machines do ALL the coding - not that some code already comes from machines, but thats another topic
Lmao I have an ad for Diablo immortal on you vid 😂😂😂😂😂😂. I accidentally “clicked to install” and just died laughing
I remember there was something early on with D3 where you'd have someone else start the "defeat ZK" quest for act 2, on the highest difficulty they could, and they could carry 1-3 other people. There was something weird, like if you weren't the party leader you could get big exp as though it were the first time you handed it in, but it didn't actually count as you handing it in. Something like that. Levelled all my characters pretty quickly.
Yea , called a rush..I used to do it all time in d2 lod ..from lvl 1-70 in 15 baal runs lol
what he said: "Blizzard listens to feedback"
what I heard: "Blizzard took 1min to adjust sliders after a guys made a whole unpaid professional 72hours analyse."
That should have cost them at least 1000 dollars if not more. Instead they did it for free, out of love for a company that couldnt give a shit about them.
I can't imagine spending 5k on a video game. You could build such an amazing PC with that much cash.
Yeah like anyone spending that amount on this lifeless trash game is seriously lost.. plz let me have da free money ill make us both rich!!
I sooo agree I feel like the odd one when I find out people pay and not little pay.. fucking anything over 50.00 is too much let alone thousands?! You players paying for this are stupid. You have been fooled. Sleep in your bed lol
Cherry on top: Video finished and played a Diablo: Immortal ad.
"I think wyatt cheng is a good guy"
Well you already lost me there friend. I'd sooner trust a fuckin' mob boss than I'd trust anyone at Blizzard.
Asmon is out here helping out other streamers/youtubers gain more subs. Great work Asmon!
Its AssManGold... Just say it right Mang
Dark viper would disagree lol
yeah, that's not how it works lol.
I dont even plan to play Diablo Immortal but these Asmon react to these players is fun to watch. We need more of these kind of players for more content! 🤣
I don't care if they've "learned their lesson" or are "sorry" for this. I am done with Blizzard until Microsoft takes over and boots out the entire top management of this company. Only then, MAYBE, will I consider installing their garbage again.
I feel like this guy is a sucker. He's subservient and in service to Blizzard for FREE and he is trying to go back even though his instinct is telling him not to. It's sad and pathetic.
Those who work for Blizzard today are the ones who accept (or like) the current Blizzard culture, and the ones who can’t get a job somewhere else… Blizzard is over…
Why do people think Microsoft would do such a thing? Microsoft knows what kind of company Blizzard is. They know of their business model. That is the reason they bought them. They want money. And Blizzard is good at making that. If I was Microsoft CEO, I wouldn't kick Bobby out - on the contrary, I would hire him to do some education of my other managers, in how stuff is done!
@@Member_zero You are not aware that when new management comes in, they keep the old guard until they understand the inner workings of the organization they just took over. This is standard business practice for any takeover. They say "minimal changes in how you operate will be made" but what they don't say is, "until we make the changes we're planning to make." This is to make sure employees don't start quitting. The changes are in procedure and upper and middle management. Then they replace everyone. This is standard practice. They are only interested in the products and the developers on staff and how they make their games. That is what they bought. They did not buy the old board of directors. They will be history and replaced by Xbox management.
@@PhatPazzo Exactly.
Never assume Blizzard to be naive about these things, they know exactly what they are doing. "Missing the mark" is just part of their strategy. Their target audience are not longer gamers, but shareholders.
People forgot what games should be about. Majority thinks its normal that they buy(or download for free) the game and then participate in it by using their wallets. Earning things in a game????? Wtf???? Why? That's typical thinking of modern gamer.
Its amazing how quickly someone can become a shill when they get access to someone in a company or a celebrity.
Asmond mentioned this before, but the best way to scam people is by making them feel good.
@@miniclip1162 I doubt it. If it were that easy, many people would've gotten scammed already.
Recognition or respect, even a the merest whiff of it, can be intoxicating to someone starved of it.
Appreciate your takes on this 👌
I watched many guides of Raxx while playing D3, it was super useful and i with a bit luck and paid rest time, somehow forced my way to top 5 and finished season at top 50. His dedication and love for the game is real and tbf while i'm very pessimistic about D4 i also firmly believe if a change may happen that would be cause of people like Raxx.
It is hopium but i really want to have a good D4, played series since Diablo, really get sad after their cheap D3's anniversary text and Dimmoral fiasco. My last hope is D4.
I hate to break it to you, but it's most likely going to be bad. And even if it's good it will definitely be P2W, it's the hope that kills you
That is hella hopium, yes
"my last hope" is just a regular saying when it comes to blizzard at this point
This reminds me of the Black Mirror episode 15 Million Merits where “they” recruit their biggest vocal opponent, and he becomes one of “them”.
25:16 any maw runs for artifact power?
Asmongold: Has the power and influence to illicit responses from Blizzard, Ted Cruz, and dozens of others. Makes more money then me by an abnoxious amount.
Also Asmongold: Looks like the guy who's gonna cross the street to bum a cigarette from you at the bus stop.
Just some light humor. Love you man.
Blizzard has been playing this same trick for years now: They'll release something that's 85% over the line godawful, wait for fan backlash, tweak the numbers by 10-15% and rake in the goodwill for being "responsive to community feedback".
They make the game extra shit just to seem like good boys for toning it down *slightly*. And instead of being *slightly* less angry, the fans think they've won some grand concession! It's amazing.
Its the same thing right wing people do all over the world. Because if you make it 85% worse, then change it to 65% it doesnt seem so bad anymore. And 65% was exactly how bad they wanted it. But if they went in raw 65% people would have been mad and expected at least 45% bad. Its really sad to see this guy become entranced by abusive blizzard. Its probably been a life long dream to work with blizzard. They are taking advantage of him and hes loving it. So sad.
Hey guys, it's only _mostly bad_ now instead of complete garbage - the game is saved!!
IDK what to say. I genuinely feel sorry for this Raxx dude. Denial is heavy.
31:15...lmao Asmongold you're hilarious...i lost it at that moment.
I 100% agree with your sentiment about trying to find hope with these big companies. The future of good games is unfortunately going to be with smaller studios.
Love your videos, Asmongold. In China, there are many pay-to-win games like diablo Immortal, which make really a lot of money for these companies. But most Chinese players just get used to it and let them do it. This game uses the IP of "Diablo" to squeeze money from players. The operation pattern is just a money generator. In China, the reputation of "NetEase" is very bad. Paying money will not make you a whale or the ultimate whale. YOU HAVE TO PAY A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY AND TIME. That produces work opportunities for some game studios. The game studios guys help these rich and stupid players play the game. IF it is necessary, some skillful guys from the studio will help the owner to do PVP-related things. The Blizzard learned a lot from NetEase. The Blizzard has tasted the blood. This game without the skin of "Diablo", would be shit. In the future, NetEase will cooperate with Blizzard to develop more money generator machines like this.
This guy seems like a good dude. But this is such copium. Blizzard reached out as a PR move. The whole thing about they missed the mark or got this bit wrong is nonsense and tries to gloss over the central issue here: The implementation of P2W in this game is predatory on multiple levels and Blizzard have fallen a long way to put out such a game.
Exaclty as Asmon said early in the video. They have offered these minor contritions to regain some good will, however the game remains rotten to its core
I just want to say I'm proud of my brother that was able to reach 1485 GS currently on Lost Ark (NA East Server*), and never NEVER spent a dime on it. He's enjoying the game, never spent anything, and able to appreciate every time he succeeds in upgrading each of his items towards +20. His weapon is currently a Tier 3 Relic +21 Weapon. He keeps a daily routine in the game, keeps at it. (He has work also* So he has the means to pay but chose not to*) :>
The only way to fix Immoral is to refund and remove all of the IAPs
The sad thing is that I got a Diablo immortal ad for this video…
One thing to keep in mind is these publicly traded companies are slaves to the shareholders. They're expected to do the thing that makes the most money and there needs to be a public backlash that causes the shareholders to panic before they're allowed to dial it back. Expect it from any traded company. If the CEOs didn't do this the shareholders would vote them out. I mean think about it, if you were a Blizzard shareholder who didn't care about gaming wouldn't you want to hear they had an opportunity to make insane amounts of money?
Needs to be by gamers for gamers again
@@martinhellstrom9299 Unless you got enough money to put a 10% or higher stake in Blizzard/Activision, you're not going to change anything. I can't even really blame the shareholders either as someone who invests (not in Blizzard) because just like you or I as gamers want them to make good games, the shareholders want them to make good money. Luckily there are tons of indie developers out there that aren't being published by major companies that don't have these constraints.
And yet all of you will buy Diablo 4 because it'll totally be different this time guys for sure.
What if it is? I have little hope left but I really REALLY want it to be good :(
Im gonna buy D4 because im clinging on the the last little hope i have for any blizz game, however that's for diablo because of nostalgia, not touching Dragonflight tho. last 2 expansions were a huge turn off, last time i remember having atleast somewhat fun in wow was Legion, and before that... wotlk for me. so wow is over for me unless i'w seen great reviews and a steady playerbase.
Like I said, I will definitely buy Diablo 4 even tho I hate Blizz.
The urge to be the part of all those ppl trying thr game at the lunch and grinding the hell out of it is way too big.
I will not pre-order it as I dont trust them but in 99% even if its gonna be p2w I wanna be there, I missed D3 lunch and I feel like I lost good time. Time will tell how D4 will end up.
It's like McConnell said: they lack conviction and principles.
It's like watching crackheads
Guys, guys, don't worry Blizzard investigated themselves and found out they aren't pay to win
The funniest part of the video is that a Diablo immortal ad played on it.
I Just got a immortal ad before heading into this Video. The irony
"I quit the game, I only play for an hour or two every day." It's sad how addicted Raxx is.
I dont necessarily disaggree that he might be addicted, but you are literally putting words into his mouth. He said he only does the dailies. That takes for him 5 minutes max.
@@christianadler3532 Then I guess he lied and doesn't just do dailies, because the couple of recent streams I checked out he was playing for 1-2 hours.
I got a Diablo immortal ad before this video started 🤣🤣🤣
Thats why i got premium… hate the fking ads
Just play the story mode for free and keep it at that.
too short
nope. don't even do that.
The worst part is when they take you out to burger king, you think they're gonna order you something, and instead they grab a half eaten whopper out of the garbage.
He wants to know what happened to games just coming out full and complete? Companies fired their entire QA depts and now use the player base to test and make spreadsheets to fix and balance their games.
Until people stop testing their games for free, they won't come out complete. Why would they?
The reason I'm being this to your attention is because I feel that you can repercent my position better than some content people out there. Because when I celebrated my birthday and the 43 years of gaming I thought of the positive things I experienced gaming for 43 years and I also thought of the negative experiences that I have come across in these many years. I prefer to keep in mind of the positive. But I am at the side of courshion with these 4 game companies because of the reason s stated. I am not being hipperbolic by saying I going to walk away from those game companies. I hope that they treat these games well. And it is going to be a very sad day if these games come out being disrespected and also me saying goodbye forever to these companies because of games I have come to love or because I followed them for years because am looking forward for to there next game or have been interested in a new ip. Thanks for reading this sorry about my spelling.
Do you guys not have wallets?
sure, but we do not waste it on crap :)
Don't you guys have credit cards ?
Dude literally went full clown with the suit, makeup and the funny nose
First rule of displaying data to prove a point. Everything in each column needs to have the same number of digits if left aligned. Otherwise all data must me right aligned. This inconsistency can cause difficulty reading data and make it more difficult to show the end user the results
This was probably also from June 24, 2022. What an infamous day lol
Love how I accidentally skipped the video and asmond started talking about eating shit😂 funny asl
I saw the vid and was like wow thats so smooth thats how i started to build my own cpus and became a technition specialist at a pc repair shop
I feel Diablo Imortal is just a test bed to see how far they can push their monetization (plus push their fans) before implementing monetization into the D4 release.
God dam it that “shit eater” part took me out 😢😂 I’m going to step away from a P2W mobile game that I’ve been playing since I was 15 (I’m 23 now) Sometimes we need reputable people that won’t sugarcoat things to wake us up. This is the first video I’ve watched of yours, thankyou. ❤