THE FAWNING RESPONSE: What You Need to Know to Give It Up & STOP Abandoning Yourself

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  • Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024

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  • @user-th3de
    @user-th3de Год назад +54

    It feels like the fawn response isn’t the problem. The problem is what our nervous system has been conditioned to believe will happen if we don’t fawn/appease.

    • @Datb2
      @Datb2 6 месяцев назад +2

      YESSSSS

    • @Rosierose902
      @Rosierose902 3 месяца назад

      This is what I’ve been trying to express to my therapist thank you

  • @mysiann
    @mysiann Год назад +54

    I have fawned for so long that I don’t know who I am or what I want/need. But videos like this give me hope!

    • @Portia620
      @Portia620 9 месяцев назад +3

      Difficult, if everything was stripped from you too, and you’re at the rock-bottom start all over again and middle-age! It takes time and tons of work to look at your life at a distance in a non judgement way to understand this mess.

    • @fearlesscreationsbyj
      @fearlesscreationsbyj 4 месяца назад

      Same here.

  • @356diane
    @356diane 2 года назад +66

    Its interesting to acknowledge how mentally strong Ive been to go on with my life but at the same time this response has gotten in the way of living. I dont think anyone who is working on this should be self critical about it. It doesnt mean you are weak, its just time to move on. Like finding the clothes that really fit you now and make you feel good when you go out. peace

    • @ForRelationshipHelp
      @ForRelationshipHelp  2 года назад +5

      A very good metaphor for it!

    • @KatWoodland
      @KatWoodland Год назад +2

      Well said @356diane! Thank you for your comment. It has helped me.

    • @chirokathleen
      @chirokathleen Год назад +3

      This really helped me today. Thank you!

    • @Portia620
      @Portia620 9 месяцев назад

      Agreed!!!

    • @Rosierose902
      @Rosierose902 3 месяца назад

      Needed to hear this 👏🏾

  • @Hummingbird1880
    @Hummingbird1880 Год назад +14

    I grew up fawning. Not only as the youngest of a dysfunctional family feeling like my existence broken the camels back but also when it all fell apart and everyone else went into fight flight and freeze, I became the stand up student, tons of friends, making dinner, cleaning. It was such a good strategy then but oh boy painful. So painful. It’s a lifetime of unlearning and I’m still finding lingering threads.

    • @kellychuba
      @kellychuba 6 месяцев назад +2

      I was cinderfella too. It sucked. My family still expects it. Limited contact.

  • @neetaarora7908
    @neetaarora7908 Год назад +10

    I've felt diminished, I'll treated, taken advantage of and have lived angry and resentful, unheard, undervalued.... and shut down, clammed, jailed and desperate for freedom.... thinking so much about how who all will think, dislike, question me, and reject.... health and sleep, peace of mind have been at stake. Lately I've begun to not seek anyone and observe, reflect, examine.... to reclaim and be ( empowered). Yes, haven't known what I really need, value and stand by it.
    Thankyou.

  • @scorpiolove674
    @scorpiolove674 Год назад +32

    Coming from a state orphanage the fawning response helped me survive but now I realize that it doesn't serve me as an autonomous adult .

  • @JudyBarrette
    @JudyBarrette 8 месяцев назад +8

    I so understand this. I think under the fawning response there is a lot of repressed angry. If you are with someone with whom you have to do this, get out. Not healthy at all.

  • @PaigeSquared
    @PaigeSquared Год назад +6

    I overshare too much, but it usually takes a few meetings before I say enough to put my foot in my mouth.

  • @MsTesoro89
    @MsTesoro89 Год назад +11

    I feel like that . Exhausted. And no one consider I am human too .
    Thank you
    God Bless !

  • @keirra6327
    @keirra6327 11 месяцев назад +8

    I'm only 8 minutes in and I've never felt so heard. Thank you

  • @victorialyukmanova3065
    @victorialyukmanova3065 Год назад +21

    I've been fawning and also finding myself with friends that fawn. So difficult, because we never know who has what boundaries, every one of us is scared to somehow push away the other.. And at the same time this creates such horrible ambiguity, we keep on making ourselves guess what the other person is really thinking! I guess I've been consciously choosing these kind of friendships thinking that this would protect me somehow, and now I'm trying to make friends with people who express boundaries, and set boundaries myself. So freaking difficult though, I feel like I'm swimming in one big emotional flashback.

    • @Portia620
      @Portia620 9 месяцев назад

      I’m like living a nightmare flash back! No kidding

  • @Portia620
    @Portia620 9 месяцев назад +6

    I’m tired of talking about it. I want it to be over!!!! I buried it a long time ago just to spend time digging and analzicif. My relationship with others. I’m super observant and have many answers now. I’m sooo ready to move on in life.

  • @LightHouse_222
    @LightHouse_222 5 месяцев назад +3

    ❤ " your values shouldn't be fluid ! "
    I am making a poster of that.
    After 12 years of marriage, I left him. He wrote a letter to the judge and said I was a chameleon and therefore shouldn't have our kids.
    We ended up seeing a psychologist.
    He told the ex that I had every right to my own choices.
    The ex exploded and left.
    The psychologist told me to start with small things like choosing my favourite flavour of ice cream.

  • @craigdunning5123
    @craigdunning5123 Год назад +11

    Wow. This is hitting me hard. I don’t want to be this way anymore. I matter, my feelings matter. Wow. Thank you for bringing awareness to this. On the healing journey ❤💪🏻🙏

  • @amothergoddess2774
    @amothergoddess2774 Год назад +6

    I DO THIS COMPLIMENTING PEOPLE, SOMETIMES TO START A CONVERSATION, IT USUALLY MAKES ME AND THEM FEEL BETTER, SOME PEOPLE DON'T REACT, BUT I AM A PEOPLE-PLEASER, I GIVE THINGS TOO, I WONDERED WHY I GAVE A GIRLFRIEND AN EXPENSIVE JACKET, WHEN SHE WOULDN'T EVEN BUY ME A COFFEE AND SHE HAS LOADS OF MONEY BUT SHE IS REALLY TIGHT! THANKYOU 4 BRINGING THIS TO MY ATTENTION! , I'M IN AUSTRALIA, TOO FAR AWAY!

  • @DarkFire1536
    @DarkFire1536 3 года назад +25

    Thank you for giving a name to this behavior that I do.

  • @reinaequina6588
    @reinaequina6588 2 года назад +22

    It’s so frustrating I go into fawning and I don’t even realize I have 🤦‍♀️

    • @ForRelationshipHelp
      @ForRelationshipHelp  2 года назад +5

      Yes, though, once you realize what it is, and replay the instances when you've gone there, you can begin to change things. I wish you well with that.

  • @tslilbearshoppe9870
    @tslilbearshoppe9870 Год назад +4

    Crap I am such a Fawn. Today is the first day of my non Fawn life. Thank you!!! When I am blowing smoke up the Narc's arse so to speak, all the while I am thinking what a jerk, he's eating this bs up and he is the cause of it. I am never myself, I never show my real me to them because it's too painful. If he knew what I really thought of him, he'd lose his faculties. I am just in survival mode all the time. I need to get myself back, I am a good person, I genuinely care about others and putting them first is kicking my ass. I need to take care of me for a change. I just buried my narc dad that I was taking care of. I am the youngest one of 5 and I am the only one that stepped up to care for him. I forgave him. Trouble is I am married to the same type of person. I do love him but there are many things I do not love about our relationship, and I think there is hope. We are together 41 years. I don't want to quit. I just need to learn to not let him him trigger me all the time. If I can't do that, then I'll leave. He is otherwise a good person, but he was raised by a narc mother that he went no contact with over 20 years ago. So she rubbed off on him. I don't want to break up this family. I need to get my self respect back and learn to set boundaries tho. I'm afraid if I can't then I won't be able to stay here anymore. I am always searching utube for a quick fix to my extreme empathy. My daughter is my best friend now that she is an adult, she was a psych major and she tells me that my needs count, stop being so nice to everyone, they don't deserve your kindness etc. I love that kid. I did a great job with her. She is truly an old soul. Anyhow I spilled my gutts here, maybe someone else will see this and it will prompt them to change too. God bless you for helping others with your knowledge. One more thing, I really don't care who likes me (except my God and my kids), it's the conflict I am tired of and can't stand anymore. You are right about that Roman candle analogy tho lol

  • @ekaterinasokolova3682
    @ekaterinasokolova3682 3 года назад +20

    Thank you, Dr. Shaler. During listening I remembered one guy who completely seriously told me: "Why should I talk to you about your problems, I want to talk about mine!" It was funny.

    • @ForRelationshipHelp
      @ForRelationshipHelp  3 года назад +7

      The obviousness of his statement could certainly be amusing, and you were healthy enough to see it for what it was!

  • @LightRenowned
    @LightRenowned Год назад +9

    Thank you for this video. I have no idea how long its been happening for, but I think all my life. And I just realized how clingy and needy I've been.

    • @ForRelationshipHelp
      @ForRelationshipHelp  Год назад +2

      You're so welcome. Any time you recognize something that can improve your life is the BEST time, right?

    • @LightRenowned
      @LightRenowned Год назад

      @@ForRelationshipHelp absolutely, that’s been the present focus and practice. As soon as it arises and doesn’t serve me. I forgive it and let it go, it dissolves and vanishes… and I’m left with the moment. Though I have to continuously repeat this process many many times per day. It’s been helping. I’m sure I will be beyond this trauma and the trauma responses and conditions one day! I just hope to do interviews and podcasts and share my story. Share the tremendous amount of healing and transformation that has occurred in my life. I sometimes dream of it and that I’m capable, and other times I slip back into the insecure self. I’m trying to get into the practice of “just starting” when it come to new things. At present I anything new has all the trauma responses that require energy and attention before I can just get started on a task that’s going to be super positive.
      I would love to be engaged in a conversation by someone on Heath and wellness, mental illness, schizophrenia, childhood trauma, abandonment issues, tobacco and alcohol abuse, and yoga… and the transformational journey that yoga and Grace has blessed upon me.

  • @corinneblair8795
    @corinneblair8795 Год назад +4

    Say “No”, then the Narc will Rage at you!! And that adds more trauma! I hate being yelled at.. especially when it is for no reason

  • @KerryLiv
    @KerryLiv Год назад +3

    My curiosity of "Fawning" definition, led me to discover a lot about myself... and a healthy way to address it. Thank you!

  • @Portia620
    @Portia620 9 месяцев назад +3

    It’s not that I just wanted to be over after analyzing it and healing and all this other stuff I am really wanting the opposite of the life that I had before! I wanted my sunny disposition back as a team and I got that back. Now I want the rest of it back cause I’m tired.

  • @toddamngus5269
    @toddamngus5269 2 года назад +7

    Aaarrgghhhh!!!
    I thought I was just broken!! 😭
    I didn’t know there was a WORD for these “fawning” qualities!🥺🤬😢
    Now, I have to figure out (with your help) how to fix it.

  • @eurekaelephant2714
    @eurekaelephant2714 2 года назад +5

    Wow, thankyou. I am sitting in my car watching this, and thinking, yes, this applies to me. Thankyou for helping me name it, and to give me some relief, knowing that it can be a 'normal' response to being emotionally abused. I think I 'fawn' in other ways. I was starting to get worried about myself, because 'fawning' isnt me, and sometimes i do this now, with other people. I am in the process of resetting the boundaries with the abusive person in my life. I love what you said about having the right to your feelings, needs, and the simple power of the word no. Thankyou! This has helped me to know i am on the right path of putting my own needs first. It is hard, but with the passing weeks, I am starting to feel a bit better. E.g I now get better sleep. I will keep going with this. Love your videos. They have helped me, many thanks.

  • @MsTesoro89
    @MsTesoro89 Год назад +4

    I identified with this
    Thank you .
    I have dealt with big health issues due to this since I was little a home .
    Thank you .
    🙏♥️😍🌹

  • @dandanjordan
    @dandanjordan 4 месяца назад

    Omg i don't need a justification to say no. I needed to hear that

  • @lookupyourredemptiondrawsn7285
    @lookupyourredemptiondrawsn7285 9 месяцев назад +1

    this is the best video ever. first time I've seen one regarding this subject. SO important. wow. life changing. thank u sooo much

  • @charanko.
    @charanko. 11 месяцев назад +1

    God bless you for persevering in your journey

  • @glendamorrison5159
    @glendamorrison5159 3 года назад +6

    Fawning mentality ME! yes

    • @ForRelationshipHelp
      @ForRelationshipHelp  3 года назад +1

      The good news is that you're now aware and things can change, right?

  • @ritadoran5039
    @ritadoran5039 3 года назад +9

    Thanks from the ❤ Dr Shaler I did that in my last relationship he was screaming and dragged me by arm into another room pushed me into chair told me to shut up and listen. I froze then I noticed his look he was near the knives in kitchen so I didn't run suprising I said so ure gonna hurt me? I played nice and talked him down
    I was scared. So you are right it escalates

    • @ForRelationshipHelp
      @ForRelationshipHelp  3 года назад +3

      Good quick thinking on your part! I'm glad it worked so that it didn't escalate!

    • @kellychuba
      @kellychuba 6 месяцев назад

      oh honey, take care of yourself. Your comment jolted me.

  • @eatnplaytoday
    @eatnplaytoday Месяц назад

    My husband and i are both the youngest in our family and people pleasers. My dad and his dad was always strict and controlling. My mom and his mom was pushy, especially his mom. Since moving out to live with me, he has been able to say no more to his family/mom and she gets even pushier.

    • @eatnplaytoday
      @eatnplaytoday Месяц назад

      As for me I moved far away from my family because I tend to run away so they won’t contact me. Sometimes they still do when they really want something but being at a distance helps to say no. I’ve gotten better at this. My husband still has difficulty saying no at work though and always caves to what his boss wants

  • @MariaPerez-sb1xp
    @MariaPerez-sb1xp 2 года назад +5

    That's why people also tend to radicalize with religion in the west. Ethnic minorities often don't get enough recognition through education and highly paid jobs. Due to poverty and incompetent illiterate parents they didn't have a loving upbringing as children. They tend to flee to religion which 'ill give them recognition from the higher above. This often results them in backbiting fellow believers who are less pious. They take their trauma of not being good enough out on others this way. And the ironic misconception is they think they please god.

  • @sheyda22
    @sheyda22 11 месяцев назад

    Dr Roberta. I’m so glad I found You 🤩🙏🏻

  • @Portia620
    @Portia620 9 месяцев назад +2

    I’m not sorry for anything anymore and I just block them and let them cry to themselves. I don’t care about their bs

  • @angelamossucco2190
    @angelamossucco2190 Год назад +7

    Enabling: when you remove the consequences for others of their poor choices.
    ABB: always believe behavior

  • @momione11
    @momione11 2 года назад +2

    I saw my grandmother doing this my mother and me.But also beacuse of my dad and my mothers other husband how was an covert narc.I lerd it early.

  • @cherbug1197
    @cherbug1197 2 года назад +3

    thank you dr!

  • @larissadean
    @larissadean Год назад +5

    I developed ME / CFS and attracted hijackal boyfriends , but I’m not sure where it started !!

    • @ForRelationshipHelp
      @ForRelationshipHelp  Год назад +3

      Hijackals do prefer people who need them, or who they think that can control more easily. Being ill can be one of those things. Does that make sense regarding your recent experience?

  • @sjwillis1137
    @sjwillis1137 2 года назад +5

    Non fawning compliment Dr Shaler ;
    Your voice , in certain places , sounds like Marilyn Monroe.

  • @jgregg7100
    @jgregg7100 Год назад

    11:00 I'm using that line

  • @sterlgirlceline
    @sterlgirlceline Год назад

    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @anonymousbyname1121
    @anonymousbyname1121 11 месяцев назад

    And the moment you speak up and suggest a vegetarian restaurant to your friends is the moment you will be dropped and never hear from them again.

    • @marinacolijn4247
      @marinacolijn4247 9 месяцев назад +1

      @anonymousbyname, Then you got rid of them easy. I say congratulations.

  • @aroncsoka
    @aroncsoka 11 месяцев назад

    We are trying to survive and the advice is that we are to be blamed, what we are told is that we are the problem, that we are doing something wrong.
    Why are you therapizing victims? Are you of the opinion that the victim should be dealt with if they complain about another person? If I go to the police or the court the policeperson or the judge is not going to tell me to defend myself, he/ she will arrest or call the abuser to court. This general approach, where we are talking to victims about their trauma is simple victim blaming. Imagine complaining to the referee because another player kicked you during the game and the referee very calmly starts to explain why you got hurt and how you should respond. Victim treating is basically enabling abusers.
    We are saying that we've been mistreated. Counsellors/ therapists/ coaches are telling us that we are the problem. Outrageous.

    • @marinacolijn4247
      @marinacolijn4247 9 месяцев назад

      @aroncsoka Why stay the victom, get empowered instead.

    • @aroncsoka
      @aroncsoka 9 месяцев назад

      Are you saying that the victim has chosen to be a victim/ to be disempowered? Abuse means that something has been done to the victim. Their will was disregarded, he was forced.
      I don't think they want to stay victims. But they've been stripped of their free will. It wasn't up to them to become a victim and it's not up to them do heal/ get empowered.
      I feel like when people say "get healed/ better" they're forgetting or disregarding what the features of a victim, victimhood are.

  • @tonyhill2318
    @tonyhill2318 Месяц назад

    "stop doing that" ffs. Gee thanks.

  • @knicholson6003
    @knicholson6003 2 года назад +4

    Recommended people stop “fawning” whilst speaking in a little girl voice.

    • @Lyrielonwind
      @Lyrielonwind Год назад +3

      Lo cortés no quita lo valiente.

  • @kaybeacham3536
    @kaybeacham3536 Год назад +1

    I find your survival response based in fear incredibly alarming. Fawn also allows us to connect with others. As someone you would class as a hijakal who has empowered people for decades … your defensive approach to boundaries is pushing hyper vigilance to threat! Personal boundaries.. knowing them, not allowing them to be breached is empowering not pushing a big bad wolf narrative… you seem to be sharing fear 🤷‍♀️

    • @kellychuba
      @kellychuba 6 месяцев назад

      This is advice for people in toxic relationships. #HYJACKLS
      Your comment does not seem to recognise the actual topic of discussion; and by applying your perspective, your comment seems unfair.