Magura MT7 brakes are SUPER stoppers!
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Magura MT7 brakes installed on the 2020 Kenevo by the team at Berkshire Cycles. They are a super powerful 4 piston brake. Single piece forged aluminium callipers with new MDR-P discs paired with Loic Bruni levers for the complete package!
Brakes cost about £150 each (can hunt around for deals!) and the Loic Bruni levers andMDR-P rotors are added extras.
Check the brakes here at Magura's site: : bit.ly/2uAbzqB
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HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL - Took a couple of weeks out now BACK! Looking forward to 2020 ebike antics! What you guys got planned? Bikes / Upgrades / Trips?
Rob Rides EMTB just fitted a Vorsprung Smashpot coil conversion to my Lyrik on my 2020 Commencal Metapower Sx to match the coil on the rear , best upgrade I've ever made!!!
How are your trips going so far this year?
I love my MT7s. I'm an hc3 lever guy though, so much so, that I even put the hc3 levers on my wife's MT5s. Turns out the hc3 levers fit on all the Magura brakes, even though Magura claims they don't. Great brakes. More powerful than codes and saints, and the modulation is somewhere between sram and shimano brakes.
I’m using my MT7 with HC3 Levers, metallic pads and Hope floating rotors for over two years now. Best brakes I have ever owned. Super easy to bleed, super powerful, tons of modulation👍🏻👍🏻
Hi Adam, what pads do you used? don't you have problems with pistons in calipers when using metal pads? Thanks
@@vasekhajdur6393 I’m using “Uberbike race matrix“ white metallic pads. No, never had any problems. But I also clean pistons quite often using cotton buds with isopropyl alcohol.
I love sound of metallic pads👍🏻
I just purchased the specialized Turbo levo s works. I upgraded the brakes to the magura mt7 anniversary breaks with a 220 mm front rotor and a 203 in the back... Under most circumstances their whisper quiet and modulate beautifully, however when it gets really steep and I have to dig into the brakes deeply for more stopping power, they shutter like crazy, until the bike finally comes to a stop. The bike shop has worked on these breaks, and tried everything that they know to get them to function properly, I'm confident that the technicians know the ins and outs of how to make these brakes work properly however they have been unsuccessful, and they've had my bike now going on the second week. No amount of cleaning the discs, sanding down the pads, and attempting to bed the pads in properly, or checking the mounting adapters has proved to solve the problem. I spent more money to have what I thought would be the best breaks in the whole wide world with maximum stopping power and performance and modulation, and they have turned out to be the worst breaking experience I have ever experienced in the last 30 years of cycling. Any suggestions?
The first thing I done on the Levo was changed the brakes to Magura Mt7s the difference is night and day the performance is outstanding change the lever to single finger for more personal adjustment and they look good. One word of note is if you do get a local LBS to fit them make sure they are fully knowledgeable in Magura it makes hell of a difference. As I found out. I am sure you will love them Rob.
I just got the 2020 Levo Comp, and I'm trying to convince myself the SRAMS are fine, but my last bike had Magura, and I MISS THEM!!!!
@@vondooooom6249 Did you make the switch? Had my 2020 Kenevo a week and the Codes are nice to look at but not confidence inspiring!
@@-zerocool- No, I'm conserving money right now, so I haven't acted yet. I happened to have my old Cannondale Jekyl out of the shed the other day, and had to jump on for a minute. The first thing that jumped out at me what how much more powerful the Magura brakes felt in comparison to my Levo. It's really night and day. Mind you, the Jekyl is 36lbs and the Levo is obviously more. I'm not a technical bike person - it may be that the Levo brakes are super for the Levo's larger rotor size. I'm just speaking as someone who used to love the stopping power of my brakes, and now find the Levo's weak. I'll need to do more investigation before I spend money on a switch, but I can imagine getting hurt on the Levo with the weaker brakes.
Damn straight they are! I’ve been trying to tell everyone about magura for years and surprisingly few people take it on board.
Theyre very good!!
Rob Rides EMTB I’ve put them on every bike I’ve owned for the last 5 years
They make the best motorcross/enduro brakes also
I think it's because of too many negative reviews about the levers and the idea that they're hard to bleed. In reality, they're ridiculously easy to bleed if you know the trick: ruclips.net/video/Bl8PChRadX0/видео.html Sure, the stock levers suck on some of the models, but if you have the HC levers, it's a different story. Get hc3 levers and you'll be ruined for life. Maybe only the Trickstuff DH brakes could beat the lever feel of hc3. But even then, they're not worth the extra cost. I'm probably gonna run Maguras for life due to how hassle free they've been on 4 bikes for me.
Just fitted these babies to my Stumpy. 203mm disc front n rear. They're amazing. taking of my Shimano Saints on my Turbo levo to replace with these next.
How do you find the difference compared to the Saints?
@@tcw95NZ they're night & day. Saints are either on or off. The MT7 are much more controlled and there's absolutely no fade when they're hot.just bought another set to replace the saints on my Turbo Levo...
Just picked up my 2020 Levo comp. I upgraded the brakes to Code RSCs and put the charger 2.1 damper / 160mm air spring in the fork. First ride will be tomorrow! 😀
NICE! Enjoy the first ride dude!
How is the charger 2.1 compared to regular one 2.0 ?
@@georgiyonevski3894 I didn’t ride the 2.0 at all. I changed it before riding. I have another bike with a pike and changing the air spring to the 2021 model made a huge difference, probably more than changing the damper would. It doesn’t sag down in the travel anymore.
Trying to decide between these and Shimano XT. I've never used Magura before only Shimano and SRAM. Thanks Rob!
I have the mt7 raceline and my housemate has the mt7 pro. Our friends have code RSC, Zee, Saint, and Hope. I have tried them all and I would HIGHLY recommend the mt7. I love the stopping power. To me, it feels unmatched. The modularity is also fantastic.
@@LoganJohnston190 Thanks Logan! I hear adjustment are finicky tho. From a few mechanics. I'm sure once dialed in, they are some of the best.
My MT5 are also gut stoppers ;)
@FreeriderTony I have been looking at buying a set of mt5s, would you recommend them for a downhill bike?
@@rileygray195 Yes Why not? Forward & Back with 4 Pistons will be Hammer.
Am stuck between the top hope ones and these, I want them for street riding mainly for Manuals and wheels, would you recommend these for that type of riding???
you need to add a 1.5 washer for the + 20mm adapter, or use the + 23mm adapter. since the brake disc is 203mm in size.
No you don't... the brake is made to use 203 mm rotors without a special adapter
MTs r really lovely.
I have the mt7 on my 2020 cube hybrid stereo 160 , and they are insane!
Shimano have issues with lever bite point moving all the time and not staying in the same place.
Hope I find a bit heavy in the lever and have to pull them very hard to get the power.
Sram are good but look pants.
The magura mt7 so far blown all other brakes I've tried out the water! And I'm only on 203mm , going to fit 220mm on the front soon
I think I'm going to get the 220mm rotor as well. Glad you like the brakes (and the Cube!)
@@RobRidesEMTB cube is fantastic! I had a merida e160 800 before, and that was a hell of a bike. I went with the cube mainly for the spec (good value for money) 625wh battery and new gen 4 motor. But have been shocked how well the cube descends! Easily as good as the merida! Going to be blasting some laps of one of Shropshires well known dh tracks this Sunday for some more testing!
CCB TV I got a brand new cube hanzz 190 about a week ago with mugura mt5’s. I’ve not had much luck so far. Water makes them howl. Then when they’ve dried out they make this really weird slushing sound. I feel I haven’t bedded them in properly but I can’t remove the pads to sand them down and start again. I’m taking it to my local bike shop tomorrow though 😐😕
@@cheg1056 yes they do squeal when wet. But I'm going to swap the discs for the ones rob has in this video. They shouldn't squeal then
Braking squeal has almost nothing to do with the rotors...
It’s the pads.
Organic or metallic, that’s the question.
Nice! Love my MT7s and MT5s. I find that they really come to life only when they get really hot in super long downhills. That’s when they really shine.
Btw, what (clear lens) glasses are those?
Thanks. Sorry for late reply. They are 100% S3 glasses
Well... after you used SRAM brakes even the Deore would feel powerful. :) I wanted to buy a set of MT7's for my ebike but before I pulled the trigger I tried them on my friend's S-Works Enduro and I was underwhelmed as I used Saints on my Strive, so I got another set of Saints for the ebike too. But the MT7's look more flashy for sure...
Brakes all personal preference ford chevy
Gray squirrel tree service Sure, if you don’t need proper braking power SRAM brakes are excellent choices, they make you faster...
What are you talking about!??
The Code Series is a proven DH Brake.
Saints too, but the modulation is horrible.
It’s digital...on or off.
Marc28031984 What are you talking about?
Saints are one finger brakes with excellent modulation, you modulate with the power you pull the lever with your pointing finger. I’m using them on two bikes for four years in all conditions, I’d never give my money for anything else.
SRAM brakes’ modulation is a marketing term for lack of braking power (that’s one reason you see 220 rotors). If you are used to SRAM then the power of the Shimano brakes seem overwhelming (just like the MT7’s for Rob in the video) but actually, they just work properly and you have the same power on the bottom as you had on the top.
Code RSC with 220 rotors might be OK but two of my bikes came with Guide RS and RE and their lack of power a.k.a. ‘excellent modulation’ was a dreadful experience for me - after using Shimano brakes before - and the sticky plungers in the levers in summertime didn’t help either. I gave them a chance because I liked their look but eventually, I had to switch to Shimano because in the mountains they were terrifying for me.
@@Marc28031984 exactly 👍👍👍
Another great video Rob, certainly my number one choice for brakes...
Its all about the pads!
Was riding magura on my previous (e-) MTB. Running Code R now... I miss te MT's. Hopefully 2020 Will bring me back... I am hoping for that Radon 8.0. Yr last vid on that made me want it🤤
Yeah that bike sounds great!
Happy new year rob. They look really nice on plush looking. Picking my e150rs up in few days cnt wait.
Awesome! Bet you can't wait. New bike day is the best!
i love mine came on my Frey m600
stop a tank
I've fitted mt7 raceline to my stumpjumper and they were easy to fit and bleed in my opinion compared to the old guide r's I took off
Sorry for the late question but are your maguras comes with brake pads or you buy them from another place?
can you do a video on maintenance and adjusting them from the annoying squeal/ noise?
If they're noisy and squealy, then it's due to an inadequate bed in. If they were fine before but only started up recently, then take the pads out and wash them with dish soap. Clean your rotors with dish soap too. A few hard stops after that should have them good to go again. In regards to maintenance, I do this after trimming hoses, a fresh flush, or just as a yearly thing: ruclips.net/video/Bl8PChRadX0/видео.html
I have been deciding between the magura mt7s and the hope tech 3 e4.... I think I'm gonna go with the magura brakes....
I am trying to decide between MAgura MT7 HC3, G2 Ultimates, & SRAM CODE RSCS? Need opinions
You seem to think very highly of Berkshire cycles, I don't for the simple reason that they couldn't or wouldn't change the belt on my Brose T motor even though I was willing to accept loss of warranty. All they were prepared to do was to replace the motor at the cost of near £600. Thankfully, I managed to find someone up north to do the belt change for me and it cost me, including shipping and parts, £80.
What up Rob 😁👍,so do u like ridding the new kenevo all the time on all trails or levo?? I wish kenevo was a bit lighter
100% Kenevo now for me
The Kenovo is the same as the rest but with better range. It's battery weight that's the problem.
Them levers been fitted correctly to the handlebars? When I had these, the top bolt was supposed to be fully tight, you have a gap between the clamp & the body.
These are hope adapters, but I’ll double check!
@@RobRidesEMTB so the Hope adaptors were required to secure the lever clamps on to your Specialized handlebars?
Hi Rob, really like the channel.
Do you have a more in-depth video on installing brakes on a levo. I have a 2020 expert and I’m about to fit Magura mt5 brakes. I am a bit concerned on routing the rear brake, do you have any advise.
Thanks
My LBC told me that the original Magura levers are design for 2-gingered use.
Since you mentioned that the fitting might difficult, why didn't you show the fitting?
Hi, what MTB is that? And what’s the front mudguard? Looks good..!!
2019-2020 kenevo comp or expert
Mudguard looks like a mudhugger
Gonna look kinda janky but I’m considering chucking these on my dj
Shimano BR-M8020. Best. Brakes. Ever.
Hey Rob Rides Emtb! I got Magura MT 5 on my ebike and I like them! I like the longer levers than the Shimano slx I had on my last bike. The only negative is I find the rotors have too large holes in the braking surface that causes a pulsating that I find annoying! I will probably change them out for Shimano icetec! Ride ride ride!
Yeah, I think I get a little pulsing too - more noise than feel though, if that makes sense?
Hey Rob Rides Emtb! When I switched to Shimano icetec on my old bike I noticed way less brake fade on long downhills! If you get a chance to get some do it! I'm headed out to ride up mt burke into a snowstorm! Ride ride ride!
Get sram centerline rotors or galfer wave the shimano are too thin to work properly and even sram is pushing it
Hey Ian Barcellos! Why do you say Shimano ice tec rotors are too thin? Do you believe they must be thicker for cooling reasons? Do you think they will warp more easily? Do you think the pistons will extend too far when the pads wear down? I have used ice tec rotors for 3 years on my old bike and they cooled way better than standard non ice tec rotors! The aluminum core with the stainless steel layers on either side works amazingly well because the aluminum conducts the heat away faster! Ride ride ride!
@@ericm8811 they should be fine for a bit but they will get too thin very quickly the magura is meant to use 2mm rotors and shimano's are 1.8 so when you account for pad wear and rotor wear the pistons could fall out
Under modulation my Maguras are making a terrible grinding / turkey warble feedback. has anyone experienced this? Wish I just kept my SRAM's
Do you know what the little spring button on the handle does? I’ve been able to find it’s called “BAT” but have been unable to find any other info on it’s purpose or how to use it.
Hi Rob the new disc rotors are great extra in the emtb world the ergonomic of the brakes also but the constant correct working of brakes is a no go. Should you not try Hope brakes in time of brexit?
I ride Zee brakes with the magura new rotors and swissstop vented pads and works great in dry and damped terrain.
Replaced airshox by a Marzo coil and maybe something also for you to test is putting a Vorsprung smashpot in my Marzo Z one, race face next R wheels.....happy new shred year to all.
Excellent
Snapped both my mt5 leavers way to eaily. Left a bad taste in my mouth. Mind you The sheer weight of my moustache probably is a factoe. Those blades do look a different design though. Do they feel more sturdy than the mt5 rob?
Hi Tom, haven't actually used the MT5 I don't think so can't compare. The Loic Bruni levers though feel tough but its hard to test that aspect out!
Tom Bowman the Bruni levers are ridiculously expensive, HC1’s are the way to go.
How do the LB levers compare to the hc3?
Hi rob thinking of getting these for me 2020 LEVO which come with the guide breaks, would I also need to replace post mounts thanks
No you do not
Magura made the 7s compatible with other top brands adapters so as long as you use same size rotors the adapters you have mounted should work.
I wonder how they fare, compared to the Shimano Saints I installed in place of the SRAM Guider RE ( it is night and day, no comparison ).
are they good on a surron tho
Hallo Rob. Are you expirenses some Brakepad play when braking on the mt7 brakes. I just installed mt7 pro on my levo expert and a have knocking sound when braking. I can feel the pads are moving back and forth when the brakes are activated. I have the 220 mm mdr-p rotors.
What front mudguard is the Rob?
It’s the Crudguard XL
Thanks a mil 👍. Do you like it?
Yeah it’s very good. Easy to swap between bikes and stops mud splatter on the GoPro / face and front third of the bike
Hi Rob, are you using the pads that came with the MT7 brakes?
Anyone else noticed that chip on the rotors @ 5:59?
Hi Rob. How do you mount the dropper lever and shift lever to these MT7:s? I have the 2020 Kenevo Expert with OEM Code R brakes and noticed that dropper/shift levers are mounted directy to the brakes. I'm about to order the MT7:s but I'm unsure about this.
Ok to bleed and set up. but I would change them in an instant for XO trails.
If you know the trick. It takes less than 5 minutes to get them to 100%: ruclips.net/video/Bl8PChRadX0/видео.html They're so easy to bleed and to get the lever feeling nice and solid, that I'll probably never go back to sram or shimano.
@@dukeofmtb I've run them for a year. Would still prefer sram XO trails. Power about the same, but the modulation with sram suits me better
@@kevinargust3694 Understandable. Why fix what isn't broken, right? Although these days, you could use the hc3 levers and use the leverage adjustment to increase modulation and remove the sudden biteyness. You can go even further by using the green sport pads. I run the sport pads with 180mm rotors on my hardtail, and they definitely feel more like sram guides. On my big bike, I use the gold race pads, 203 rotors, and have the hc3 leverage adjuster set to max bite, and they feel like Saints on steroids. Same brakes, but they feel completely different. Magura brakes can be very versatile once you know your way around them.
@@dukeofmtb I think we all ride better when we have confidence in our brake set up. Noticed that when I changed from to two finger to the one finger levers, my speed increased due to confidence in brakes working with one finger.
@@kevinargust3694 I agree. When my brakes feel like poop, I ride much slower. Can't go fast if you're scared that your brakes won't slow you down before the next corner. 😅
do they make a horrible trumpet/squeeling noise when damp? my shimano XTs make an awful loud noise! considering swapping them for MT7s!
Been looking at getting these for my DH bike. Since I got ebike with MT30s my Code Rs on the rig feel like shit.
Hello i have a turbo levo and i m looking for magura brakes mt7 on the rear do i need to change disc brake for 203mm and caliper spacer too?
Time to buy a new helmet. This one got dirty 😉🤘🏻
Hehe! For sure 🤣🤣
Arnt you worried about protecting your stanchions with that fender?
Are you still using these brakes Rob?
I like Maguara for their various products. The old rim brake and moto clutches are all great.
However both my and a friend's MT 5 blew up. Literally, after a descent (nasty, long, steep) the brakes just "fell in" and there was blue blood (tm) squirting out of the lever.
For that, I am a bit hesitant to run out and get an other set, whether it is MT5 or 7.
ps: I am a firm believer of Saint and Hope (v4), but I use XT (4 piston too), but they are not quite Saint (though I prefer them for the front as they don't lock up as easily)
ps2: I liked them while they lasted, but I hated how they sounded. Hopes can be squeaky but these just had this resonating whiny strange noise (I guess the split pad design !?) ...
just my 2c....
That doesn't sound good! Heard very good things about the Saints and really like the XT brakes too...
@@RobRidesEMTB Yep :) I was a bit surprised when it happened. I had brakes "soften up" badly (Guide RSC), but squirting fluid is a different ball-game.
Saints are like the XT but more on-off. I prefer them for the rear I think.
My favourite is still Hope. I have them on one bike (of 4 bikes) and I am thinking of getting some for my new bike too :)
What camera did you use for the descent?
Larger rear disc?
200FR+200RR?
I live in Hampshire, whereabouts in Surrey is that?
Hi. Is this Magura HC-W brake lever?
Hmmm the Bruni-Lever? Just a Marketing-Gag?
It’s actually pretty good!
These look sick dude! Quick question too.. What are your trousers in the vid please? (Y)
They are Fox Attack Fire
@@RobRidesEMTB Thank you good sir!
Hi mate what pads did you use ?
Hi Rob, have these given you any issues? I know of someone who has had a few issues - namely front brake failure, for no apparent reason. They needed bleeding, but this was not an easy task!
It's probably a little too late, but this might help: ruclips.net/video/Bl8PChRadX0/видео.html They're actually super easy to bleed. And I also added in the trick to get the lever throw nice and short with a solid lever feel. If this doesn't work, then he has a faulty seal somewhere.
@@dukeofmtb Thanks for that! Very clear and concise video...new subscriber here :)
@@ragestunts6990 Glad I could help. 😊
can anyone compare magura to the saint m820 ?
Hi Rob,
which tires do you use on the kenevo in this muddy conditions?
Hoya, Hillbilly on the front with butcher on the back
I haven't used Hydraulic brakes since the evil circle of leaking Shimano brake, which I gave up on. I currently use TRP Spyke.
so far most recommended brakes from my Instagram followers is Magura & Trickstuff.
With SHimano I read they are death traps, and they worked for years, some are lucky I guess, to get brakes that does not have faulty seals or failures.
Some say the more expensive shimano brakes will do good from SLX and up.
but I just given up on shimano, if they can't make proper budget brake that has good quality control and don't leak I am not having the same thing happen to me over and over again, I am done.
I wish I could test stuff without buying it.
butt the current setup is not perfect, but at least I don't have to deal predictable inconsistency, leaks.
but the weak point of TRP spyke is flimsy levers, and weak barrel adjuster on caliper that can snap on a impact or will bend due to rear suspension movement it destroys the threads on barrel adjuster, and bends it, so swapped barrel adjuster from another caliper & turned it all the way in, to minimize the play.
I have review of the ML800 levers and the Spyke caliper on my website.
some write they Magura brakes are too sensitive and there is barely any modulation.
I haven't tried them. I am not sure what that actually means for those that say or write so, barely any can be huge for some and the other way around.
RIDE DOWN CHICKEN POOH
This is way off topic I have a norco sight vlt 2 and I have tremendous chain drops I’ve changed the derailer and everything still massive chain slap. Just wondering is there a chainguide for a shimano steps e8000 or is there a tensioner on the motor side to not have the chain slap so much? Thank you
I'm yet to see anything in the bicycle brake kingdom that can outperform my tektro auriga V-Twin setup. Obviously there limited on what forks you can stick them on unfortunately. But my god they stop!! I've quite often locked my front wheel up in the dry on my 50kg E-bike and in the past when i had my tyre slightly underinflated I stripped the valve off the inner tube.
Saint or MT7,...everything else is just trash vs. those two... i switched from MT7 to Saints,...i dont like the modulation Travel on the MT7,..Saint`s Point of engagement is brutal,...and i like it!!
Stopping Power is quite similar...
No wonder you think they are good if you have been using Sram brakes. Go Hope.
Are these the magura e bike especific version?
Only the rotors
Super breakable 🤣🤣🤣
Im 129kg so see what they do for me
Jon The Beast Bowler You can also get some 220mm rotors If you feel like you need them
Nice e bike grandma hahahah
How much did Magura pay for this video?
Nothing, i hate when people ask that, they weren't payed and magura brakes are very good
Nice looking brakes good calipers, but plastic shitty master cylinder levers- that the lid can pop off of.
Great breaks and they look the business on my previous 2019 Levo.
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Bleeding is more or less straight forward, similar to Shimano, if you follow the instructions. Little fiddle to set up, if you don't want any small rubbing noise, as the pads are really unbelievable close to the rotor, even after 500km+.
For 2020 Levo, will try new XTR and gave Magura a pass.
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O. I like those new Magura rotors, almost as new XTR. 😎
Worst levers ever.
uuuuggghhh these rotors are uuuuuugly
😂 the worst I’ve ever set up. Good luck to those that buy them. After I have set up over 100 SRAM/Shimano break set. Never an issue. Magura in a nightmare every time. It take many many attempts. And you just have to sit and pray. Plan on $400 in labor to get them to work.
Yuck.