How A Hydraulic Disk Brake Is Made? | GMBN Tech Magura Factory Tour
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- Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2022
- Magura is a company with a long history in mountain biking, the very first MTB brand - Gary Fisher’s Mountain Bikes had Magura brake levers on the bikes and Magura were actually the first company to extend credit to Gary Fisher - they’ve been in it from the beginning! They are historically known for performance Hydraulic brakes. In this video, we visit Magura’s main production facility in Germany to find out what goes into making these incredibly powerful brakes. take a look at their heritage as well as some of the latest ABS technology that is a hot topic in the world of e-bikes right now!
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I am quite impressed by the facility. More vids like this please!
Love the factory tours
Personally I own Magura MT7 with HC3 Levers for around four years now, and oh boy. Hands down best brakes I ever used. Bought them for my Stumpjumper and after upgrading to 2021 Specialized Enduro my MT7 were first to swap to new bike. Magura all the way, never again a will move to different brand. Magura boy
Seeing how this facility looks and how things are done I can now understand the steeper prices of some components and bikes. The development and the technology is quite impressive. What a great video. Thanks and keep doing these kind of videos , they are quite educative and we can also learn about the past/beginnings of bikes and the present and future of course!
They are very german though, Alot of process and engineering but QC is always iffy
@@MrSupermugen "Every single one is tested for consistency and has laser markings so they can identify every step on the way where things might have gone wrong." - How much more QC do you want? :)
Great video! I've become a great fan of Magura's brakes. The carbotecure has some unique advantages... one is that their most basic leaver for MT brakes is actually made of carbotecture and it stops you getting cold fingers in cold and wet weather. Aluminium ones suck the heat away from your fingers but carbotecture ones don't :D
I have put some tiny rubber sleeves on my shimano brake levers. they don't get cold plus they are grippy even when wet.
Have ridden brakes with aluminium levers in minus 20. No issues at all.
ye, not sure temperature is really the advantage. Its probably how they make them so affordable considering they're built in Germany. SOme say they tend to break though. Carbon or not, the actual plastic is just as important in every carbon mixture
I've been running HS33 on one of my bikes for over 20 years now. Replaced many sets of pads, but they've never been serviced or bled, and they still perform AMAZING! Awesome company.
same here, new pads and bleed just once since 2001. Quite happy to see that my wifeys new Gazelle is fitted with Magura as standard !!
Top notch episode Andrew! I suppose this is something you had on your list for some time. It´s always great to see manufacturing processes. They let one appreciate and celebrate these things even more. It would have been a real pleasure though, if the people at Magura gave you some time with any of the engineers to talk history, design, evolution and future in break manufacturing at Magura. To occasionally see more of this in the future from other factories reaching from large a.f. to boutique as well would be sweet. Cheers guys
the best episode so far ! Thanks for sharing.
Been running HS33 rimbrakes since 2005. No bleeding, few adjustments and dead easy pad changes. Best rimbrake by far!
me too, but mine went worse and worse. didn't help to bleed them. eventually replaced them by avid cable brakes. today i am running a mt7 and the braking is really fine IF it is set up well and it is a pain to set up over and over again. i will never buy magura again.
Amazing video Doddy! Love seeing this kind of BTS stuff! 👍
So cool to see! Awesome vid Doddy - more like this please!
Almost embarrassed to say I’m still using my Magura Louise Freeride brakes I got in 2005 ?
Moved them from F/ S to hardtail in 2007...? Banshee Scirocco was recently destroyed by head on with pickup truck. They haven’t been bled in 15 years ! I had the 1st and second gen rim brakes as well. The HS22’s were on first or second gen GT full suspension. Went with HS33’s on GT STS. Happy customer for over 25 years.
I love these factory tours. MORE PLZ!
Nice vid.! Great presentation on some cool tech!
I used to have HS33 on a bike back in the day (maybe 1997?) and have recently been toying with the idea of a pair of mt7 for my enduro bike. Coming from an engineering background, I really enjoyed this video. Thanks @gmbntech !
I love Magura brakes but would like to see some improvements, replaceable piston seals, seems like a huge waste to throw away an entire caliper because they won't sell you seals or have the ability to send it in for repairs. Also would prefer a metal insert in the carbotecture brake lever, that way I'm not crapping bricks everytime I am installing them on my bike.
Did you have issues with the seals ? Which model?
I am a long time Magura brakes abuser, and the older models at least were very reliable.
@@iulian2548 The seals on my rear MT7 went and the pistons wouldn’t move freely. Figured I’d do some maintenance like I was able to on HOPE brakes. Was shocked that they don’t offer any parts for the caliper and just sell you an entire new caliper.
replace the levers with shimanos and be happy lol
@@jamble7k the levers are fine, it’s the caliper piston seals. Shimano also doesn’t offer any spare parts for their calipers and they’re wandering bite point is a hassle to deal with. No thank you, never again Shimano
@@dytrdr5 actually rode both, MT7 with the original levers and MT7 with XT levers, switched back and forth, the levers of the XT just fit my fingers better, I now ride Shigura and its perfect for me. No issues with them at all. I know the wandering bite point from the normal Shimanos but never had a problem like it with the Shiguras, they just work. But Maguras are great either way.
Love the Maguras on my Intense...amazing feel. Super cool video!!
What an awesome video!!!!! New respect for Magura!
Thank you for all the hard work you guys did to present this video to US :)
Amazing video and Company! So cool to see!!
Brilliant vid! Love it.
I hope you have more videos like this in the pipeline.
I used to work for Kardex VCA in Australia and we used to install the Kardex Shuttles over here. They were a very impressive bit of kit. I really enjoyed this video.
Another cracking video Doddy
Good stuff man. Keepemcoming
I will watch every video you put up of a factory. I think factory tours are an underrated source of entertainment.
Impressive. I have Magura Julie on my bike from early 2000s. Now I have MT5 on my downhill bike:) I love Magura
Great video!
Andrew - Fantastic video and very well presented. My new Cube TM140 with Magura brakes as standard are really smooth and progressive to use - the best I have experienced with my eBikes. And a few more videos like this one would be appreciated.
Very impressive and makes me really looking forward for my MT5 I just ordered a few days before
Great Video... I actually used Magura stuff on my bikes for a long time, starting with the first raceline rim brake back in the 90s. But then, some years ago, my Martha SL lost brake fluid at -12°C on both brakes while braking, at the same time on both brakes. This left me with zero breaking power immediately. I think some seals contracted due to the temp. I was lucky, that there was no car at the junktion I was heading to. Since then I stopped usining safety relevant parts from Magura, as I think they just don't understand, that peoples lives depend on the function of their components. This is very said, as I was actually raised in Bad Urach. Still love my Magura fork though!
I run Shimano Front and had tektro on the rear, that tektro failed while out on a offpiste bit of trail riding after the trail ran out. now I have XT front and rear. However your comment has made me think that perhaps having different manufacturers products front and rear will give better failure protection.
An excellent video.. super content and vocal skills.
I have some of those magura wheelchair forks on some chairs at work, always makes me smile seeing those things outside the bike world
Awesome reportage!! 👍👍👍
This was a fantastic video! sure I have Maguras and love them, but its almost like this could be a subject about anything that is quietly excellent.
Doddy great Vid ... enjoyed watching ... AU🙃
Love this!! More please
fantastic upload
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Love the factory tours Doddy, really demonstrates that there is every type of job and skill within these large successful corporations. From the factory floor, manufacturing machine design and engineering, each business administration function, through to product R&D and testing. So please viewers (young and old) aim your careers working for companies that will support your hobbies as the best employees are those with a passion for the sport. The Magura Race Line was so good, they inspired much over confidence on short travel bikes back in the 90s. I have ask though:- Why they no longer sponsor Sam Pilgrim, he very good?
tks for this video.
This is golden , Thank Youu !!
We need more facility tours!
👍 love all the new tech stuff coming out, always have (says the guy still riding a rim brake bike)
İ had the hs33 tomac edition breaks on my street trial bike back in 2005. What a great breaks they were!
Brilliant video
I have the MT5e on my E bike build and the cut of switches works perfect without any delay since the function is build in to the levers. This means that you can cut the power off without actually applying any breaking to the system.
I had a set of the old rim brake Racelines back in the day. They were awesome!
Great Video. I didn't need new brakes but I put a 203 Magura disk on the front and it made a huge difference over 180.
I love my MT7 HC3s crazy to see just how much goes into making these.
Love Magura brakes. The facility makes me even more impressed.
A video on new technology, like abs, at the professional level would be interesting. I feel like we are fast approaching a point where the sport has to decide, if it wants to ban electronic aids (like F1), or keep the bikes same as their 'customer' versions.
@@paddor i don't know about reliability, only used them for a year, but no problems so far. They are decently priced, and just work. Power is through the roof, and there is some modulation as well. I tried codes, but those have no power. Shimano is on or off. For the life of me I could not do hard braking without locking both wheels. There are other options, but the prices is ridiculous. That leaves Magura in my opinion.
I build a commuter bike over the pandemic and fitted it with a pair of Magura MT5's.
These things are the nicest component on the bike!
yellow magura raceline, good times
Nice video.
Amazing video Doddy what an impressive manufacturing process at Magura
You must of been like a kid in a sweet or toy shop 😂
Awesome stuff #GMBNTech 👊
I have a Vyron v2 dropper which I love. They no longer make it, but the CSR told me via email that they will be releasing its replacement sometime early 2023.
great stuff
When I see the moldings and the Maschine I remind me at my time on Steinel where I learned and working on these things
interesting to see the factory... who maakes that black bike with ABS brakes at the end of your tour? nice frame.
Now i need magura breaks
So much more interesting now that I have MT5s on my bike!!! Thank you Doddy, where ever you are.
The blue crates! ❤ We have a shitload of those at our facilities, too. They are called KLT = KleinLadungsTräger / SLC = Small Loads Carrier. Without them production would just be impossible.
Amazing tech.
I normally run Hope but these guys have always been on my radar
Buy maguras, swap levers to shimano, avoid cardboard-tecture on an mtb bike :)
Just bought my first set of Magura(trail sport) hope they will impress. i love the rich history of the company.
I have a Raleigh cargo bike, unloaded its heavy. It already has magura breaks. I can def see the benefit of ABS on ebikes and ecargo bikes. I've already had one crash this autum due to wet weather and the weight.
Really I can't emphasie enough the importance of great brakes on heavier bikes like ebikes and cargo bikes.
i have a pair of 2011 Magura Marta SL's. I love the feel of it. when i crash, i always check if my brake levers are alright before checking myself for injuries.
I love the shape of magura levers.🥰
I have the Magura Julie’s on my 2001 Specialized Rock Hopper Disc, never leaked or failed. Building my first bike a Litespeed Titanium full suspension, I am going with Magura!
I was thinking of buying some MT5’s. I was torn between Hopes but your video has made me go Magura and MT5’s be here tomorrow. 😊
Brilliant 🤟🏻
Great factory video Doddy. But it is really missing where are made the MAGURA disc. Maybe not in Germany. Anyone to know?
As far as I can say, they are made in Germany but in another town. A guy who studied with me worked there during the holidays.
Ohhh…everything seems so clean and organized…it makes me feel good 😂
Interesting how automated such factories have become - makes me wonder if modern automobile and aircraft production facilities are similarly devoid of workers on the floor. It also illustrates why handmade bicycle makers generally have to charge considerably more for their products. The time investment, skills, and sourcing of raw materials needed to compete with such precision automated processes must be daunting. It gives me a lot of respect for the builders of top notch custom bicycles.
Awesome. I have MT7’s on all my bikes and was considering giving TRP’s a go. But having seen this, I think I will stick with Magura
Why don't you try Shigura? Just swap the levers and keep the calipers, you won't be disappointed 😁
I currently have TRP Slate T4's on my enduro bith cant speak for other models but the States leave a lot to be desired. Just got a set of MT7's hoping this will be the answer.
Rim brakes have "bigger discs"! Using a magura hydraulic rim brake on the back of our tandem. Love it!
Would of liked to see the one piece calipers being made.
Of what?
both my hardtail and Full sus has Magura love my MT5 and MT7
The GMBN mtb nerd king in his element... All hail Doddy. 😁
Still running HS33 racelines on a 1989 Kona....great fun down the Tweed Valley in Scotland. Prefer Hope on my disc brake bikes though.
Nice tour. Magura are my favourite MTB brakes. Note though that Magura is not unique in being the only bicycle brake manufacturer that also does motorcycle brakes. Hayes does both as well as military. I would be surprised if there weren't more.
How interesting very impressive
how are the threads done in the injection moulder?
I wish they would do Brifters. Especially for HS rim brakes to rebuild old cantilever bikes to gravel/XC.
I love stuff like this as I run magura mt7 and mt8 on all my bikes
Mt8 is for trail and racing right?
@@lakaldrak
MT7 = 4 pistons
MT8 = 2 pistons
@@BryanCHernandez ye and? Im Not dumb. Thats why i asked hin and Not U. I would Always Go mt7. Thats why i was curious why would U Put mt8.
@@lakaldrak well, apparently you are after an answer like that 🤷♂
@@BryanCHernandez ??
Great video to see behind the scenes of their manufacturing. Typical german efficiency. Love my MT5's, hands down has to be the best bang-for-buck mtb braking system.
Doddy should have given us a preview of ABS on that e-bike with full front brake squeeze from speed
It would be nice to see this company make it through this winter... 🤔
strange comment. Magura is a profiltable company with a good cash flow. In terms of Energy. Germany's gas storages are full 99.2% enough to get over winter. So what's your concern now? just to write a comment?
@@neilclark8087 In case you haven't been paying attention. Germany is going to run out of energy very soon. You can't run a business that melts plastic with a wood stove
Awesome Insight into the design and technology just reinforces how good they are.
Could have grabbed me an MT7 Master cylinder though, mines just exploded 😩
I was swapping my MT5's over to another bike and I easily stripped the lever threads where the hose goes in. My biggest gripe is that if they are going to make their levers suspect, they should sell the replacement parts at a decent price.
Could you please discuss recyclability of the components, since they cannot be rebuilt and are essentially disposable
Dod is perfect presenter for this - he should take on the Greg Wallace TV role for inside factory! Much better 😂
I can tell you from experience the composite is very light but it is no were near as strong as aluminium. I would love to see an aluminium break lever I would just like a more secure feel
I hope now they can explain leaky pistons....
I still ride some original HS22s but I prefer the Deore DX cantilevers on my gravel bike...
Für immer Magura. German designed, German made and seriously brilliant customer service, just as one would expect from the greatest nation on earth.
It's not a ideological chanel i guess.
I have a Madura cutch and decompressor unit. The Decom lever was made of plastic like in your video. I snapped three in a row and then made one myself out of stainless. It never broke again. Some things are not better when made out of plastics. They are disposable and that is not the way we should be heading.
Would it be safe to say that mt5 and mt7 caliper internals are identical. Great video cheers
@16:22 🤯
6:21 hoppers ?
Best modulation brakes on the market..
Magura Gustav M😍
What about the pads?