Powder Coating With Lasers..Kinda | A New Way To Fill Your Engraving With Vibrant Color

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  • Опубликовано: 2 фев 2025

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  • @imperlast2
    @imperlast2 2 года назад +12

    as a former powder coater this is one of the best descriptions of powder coating iv seen and for temp its normally around 400 and for 20 mins

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      Im Flattered! Thanks! 😁

    • @KenFullman
      @KenFullman 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@LaserEngraving911 The link to your sample pack, in your description, no longer works. You might want to update that.

  • @dian3145
    @dian3145 2 года назад +8

    The Alton Brown of lasers 😀
    Love the addition of the science behind how things work. In the middle if a bing!

  • @lissy6213
    @lissy6213 2 года назад +67

    So I tried your technique with a 5.5 W diode laser and embossing powder for paper crafts and it worked too😊 thank you for the inspiration to give it a try

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +1

      Your Welcome!!

    • @djjohnny8149
      @djjohnny8149 2 года назад

      Would you share the settings you used with your 5.5 Watt diode laser? I have a 5.5 watt diode laser also and it would give me a nice starting point. Thank you in advance!

    • @lissy6213
      @lissy6213 2 года назад +2

      @@djjohnny8149 Settings: 2.800 to 3.000 speed and 20% power. I‘ve tried different embossing powders and achieved the best results with crafts & co powder. Just make sure to clean the laser afterwards🙂

    • @cathymyers7831
      @cathymyers7831 2 года назад

      Do you have a picture of your paper creation. I am curious to see the laser used on paper. Thanks!

    • @lissy6213
      @lissy6213 2 года назад

      @@cathymyers7831 No, sorry, I used the embossing powder (for paper crafts) on plywood, maybe it was unclear🙈

  • @jemlittle1787
    @jemlittle1787 Год назад +10

    Best thing ive seen in lasers for ages

  • @thetruthserum2816
    @thetruthserum2816 2 года назад +21

    Awesome idea! Make sure to "turn off the air assist" before you run it, or the powder will go flying!

  • @timberry7832
    @timberry7832 2 года назад +26

    Being a former printer for 30 years, I been looking for something I can do on my own that I could be good at. This could be it, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. Best Wishes, Tim

  • @LeonvanZyl_birder
    @LeonvanZyl_birder Год назад +6

    Your drawing of the powder coat paint-gun made me laugh so hard I almost fell of my chair!! 😀 very funny, but the idea is awesome! Will definitely use this idea somewhere...

  • @SteveBatsford-tp1ho
    @SteveBatsford-tp1ho Год назад +11

    I watched this video then bought some small jars of powder paint. Just finished my first trial. It came out great. I did 2 coats and it filled nicely. Although 1 coat was good, 2 coats covered the wood grain better. I'll be trying a multi-color design next. Thanks for the video!

  • @johnsmith-000
    @johnsmith-000 2 года назад +5

    This is really a fantastic idea. Much like Tim below, I'm a former screen printer of 20+ years, and screen printing is an area where you have to improvize with materials and inks, invent jigs for different objects etc. Still, although I've bought a number of powder coat paints and the gun you described accurately enough, and that I do have a K40 laser, I never thought of trying this, and I can't wait to try it. I'm really happy I stumbled upon your clip, thanks! I liked it and subscribed, don't want to miss the next idea:)

  • @gordonrain7152
    @gordonrain7152 9 месяцев назад +1

    Howdy pard' For the record I've watched a few of your videos and genuinely appreciate your 'brand' of sharing the information you do with us heathens. And you do a fine job of speaking in a non-condescending tone as well. Kudos for that. Your technique share in this video is one I've already brain-bashed a wee bit myself...you just did the precursor work for me and again, that is appreciated. As a now retired Architect/Engineer it is my curse to pick apart techniques. And the only critique I have of your methods are the physical contact with the project whilst drawing the "hard card" across the face of the piece. That is the only primary weakness in your methodology. You were obviously adept at doing so but it would be so easy for the piece to move ever so slightly. For me personally that's not an issue because I secure my pieces down using a woodworking technique I'm used to using but others should be wary of that ever so slight direct contact. It also appears that the colourization shrinks down below the surface (which is good) allowing for top coating the final piece. MANY thanks for taking the time to share this with the rest of us and confirm my theory at the same time....because of your efforts, I will be Subscribing!

  • @prpman99
    @prpman99 2 года назад +6

    Have you tried using the "print and cut" option in lightburn? Would allow taking project out of laser, apply powder and then returning to laser. I have an xTool D1 and will attempt this process. As previously noted could be an issue with the fan in the laser head. Will see. Thanks though, like the process.

  • @nathanwolf5547
    @nathanwolf5547 Год назад +2

    I am just starting out with laser so this has given me a view of the future. Thank you.

  • @josiahdegroot5341
    @josiahdegroot5341 Год назад +16

    Make sure you are wearing a respirator! The dust is so fine and the fumes of the melting plastic are highly toxic.

    • @kenthomas4479
      @kenthomas4479 Год назад +1

      but not many will listen to that type of warning, even when this guy even says at start he is not a expert.. too bad he showing to use laser when theres a easier way

    • @Sakura0754
      @Sakura0754 Год назад +2

      ​​@@kenthomas4479He's showing what people can do with a laser that people already have. How else would you do this without paint using a laser cutter? Without using a blowtorch and sanding

  • @ZERGG0
    @ZERGG0 11 месяцев назад +2

    This an awsome and really sucessful experiment. Great result! Thank you for sharing 👍

  • @thethriftychristian82
    @thethriftychristian82 2 года назад +15

    This channel is growing because of your innovation. I have been researching lasers and was looking to find a way to make leather patches with color. So hopefully this will work on leather. If so then I'm all in!

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +1

      Thank You for the support, I did mention I tried it on leather and my results where not that spectacular, but maybe you can keep tinkering with this process as a starting point and get it the way you want. Good Luck.!

    • @paulbavington4196
      @paulbavington4196 Год назад +1

      @@LaserEngraving911 I'm going to try creating a leather emboss/deboss die, stamping the leather with a press, filling the debossed area with powder coat and then trying a melt run with the laser. Could export the die file as SVG and then invert it for the color melt.

  • @ArnoSteinwender
    @ArnoSteinwender 2 года назад +2

    Really cool! Wanna try out. I am in Austria / Europe, so the ebay links don't help me much. What kind of color do I search for? "Pulverbeschichtung"? What do I have to look at here? Melting point? Poisonous fumes? So what kind of colours can I use (Link for Middle Europe oder Amazon would be appreciated)

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      Check out this link on amazon they have lots of colors and its the correct type of powder coating paint. amzn.to/3xpKT91,

    • @ArnoSteinwender
      @ArnoSteinwender 2 года назад

      @@LaserEngraving911 Thank you. All colours are unavailable at the moment

    • @karlsmith2413
      @karlsmith2413 2 года назад +1

      I found a local Powder coating company who gave me a few samples to try and are happy to supply if I need some. Maybe it's worth seeing if you have someone local

  • @AxGryndr
    @AxGryndr 2 года назад +6

    If you are concerned about movement, you could always take a queue from us CNC engravers and use some of that blue masking tape, CA glue and accelerator to make double sided tape. This way you'd have a simple hold down that won't get in the way and it easy to remove when you are done.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +1

      Yep, great idea as long as its easy to remove and clean up sounds great!

    • @AxGryndr
      @AxGryndr 2 года назад +2

      @@LaserEngraving911 You put one piece of blue tape down on your bed and one piece of blue tape on your material. The CA (super) glue you add a line our two on the tape you placed on the bed, away from the edges so it doesn't squeeze out. On the tape on your material you spray the activator. On most material the activator doesn't leave any residue but always test first. Then you line up your material over the tape on your bed and press down. The activator and CA glue react in a few seconds and bond together. It is surprisingly strong for just being masking tape. When you are done, a little force to pull away and the tape will let go off the bed or the material first and then you peel off the other. Most painter's and masking tapes leave little to no residue unlike other double sided tapes.

    • @TheKojak76
      @TheKojak76 Год назад

      I second this hold down method. I use the tape hold down method for both cnc carving and laser engraving. I haven't tried the powder coat filling yet but it looks like it's a great option to doing epoxy inlays. Thanks for the idea. I wonder how cerakote would work. 🤔 that would open yet another possibility, perhaps even be the answer to filling metal since they have some that require low or not heat.

    • @dave_ecclectic
      @dave_ecclectic Месяц назад

      Or you could use _double faced tape_

  • @melgross
    @melgross Год назад +2

    I do powder coating on equipment I build. It’s a great way to protect the surface. I have a bad habit of buying new colors. I must have over 100 by now. By the way, generally, mixing colors doesn’t work well for normal coating for several reasons. I’m thinking of buying a laser engraver. Not for pro use though, just to engrave parts and such.
    You can fill metal with powder. The metal can be sprayed on the surface, and removed as you do it. Then can be placed in the oven, or heated from the front on a low air setting and around a 600 degree setting on the hot air gun. Wave it back and forth about three inches away from the surface for several minutes after it melts. That heats the metal too. I engrave mechanically and so get a deep cut, around 0.03”. I don’t know how deeply the low power engravers would engrave. But you can paint on the surface just by coating it with powder, using the laser to melt it, remove the excess and then heat as I said above. That works. I’m looking forward to trying this.

  • @josephosorio5718
    @josephosorio5718 2 года назад +7

    That is great. I experimented with this a few months ago and had some success with white tile. Your technique here should make this much easier and better. Oh, the powdered paint sticks very well to tile. I will try working with acrylic next. Thanks for the tips and instructions.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      Nice one!

    • @kennuimuffins2426
      @kennuimuffins2426 2 года назад +1

      Very interested in knowing how this does on acrylic. I'm going through various infill techniques for acrylic a nd most of them just don't work that well.
      Some require too much time/labour to get a good result.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      @@kennuimuffins2426 This one works pretty good, I also like masking and using acrylic paint for filling acrylic, I have a video on that way too. Thanks!

    • @poshpol
      @poshpol 2 года назад +1

      Did you do it in two passes on the tile? Engrave the tile, put powder and re-engrave?

    • @josephosorio5718
      @josephosorio5718 2 года назад

      @@poshpol yes. But the second time around I greatly reduced the power and turned off the air assist.l, so ad to not blow the powder off the tile.

  • @cathymyers7831
    @cathymyers7831 2 года назад +2

    Like the final look of the painted engraving. Your video was great!

  • @sitgesvillaapartmentneilsc7924
    @sitgesvillaapartmentneilsc7924 2 года назад +7

    Absolutely amazing, thanks for all the hard work in revealing this....Plenty of new options with this now. Incredible.

  • @The57MetLady
    @The57MetLady 2 года назад +2

    Daym I am blown away!!!! Hadn't even contemplated this process, been using acrylic markers.

  • @johnsimpson99
    @johnsimpson99 2 года назад +5

    Awesome! Just tried a test piece and it worked great after a bit of trial. Going out to get some more colors tomorrow! Thanks so much for the video. And yes, like you said below - NO air. I normally have about 4psi on with air 'off' just to keep the lens clear but even that was enough to blow the powder away.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      That's awesome, 👏👏

    • @johnsimpson99
      @johnsimpson99 2 года назад +6

      @@LaserEngraving911 Been playing with the technique all afternoon, just realized if you defocus the laser by a few millimeters, the powder coat looks much nicer. I only have jet black to play with right now but the defocused test looks much better than all my other ones.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +1

      @@johnsimpson99 That's awesome, always nice see see more innovations!

    • @colleenkidd956
      @colleenkidd956 2 года назад

      Doesn't it hurt the laser to turn air assist completely off? I have a Thunder and have read so much about the risks

    • @jaredfillingim2282
      @jaredfillingim2282 2 года назад +2

      @@colleenkidd956
      With the powder coat, you’re not really engraving. Normally the air is to keep fine particles, smoke, and other debris out of the nozzle to keep it clean. Once you get to the powder coat, the laser power is meant to be so low, you’re not engraving, but just melting the powder paint. There shouldn’t be any debris whatsoever, so in this case it should be safe.

  • @designer-garb572
    @designer-garb572 2 года назад +2

    This opens up a world of possibilities, what a cracking idea

  • @ozloya
    @ozloya 2 года назад +4

    Hey, cool technique. Thanks for sharing.
    I've tried on leather before and works well, also on painted MDF.
    Tip: You can apply the powder without the first engrave and the melting plastic bonds to the surface.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +1

      Cool, thanks

    • @DannyMcLaneDC
      @DannyMcLaneDC 2 года назад +2

      That was my question! Thanks so much

    • @Patron77770
      @Patron77770 2 года назад +1

      Like on acrylic ?

    • @ozloya
      @ozloya 2 года назад +1

      @@Patron77770 Works too, a bit smelly tho.

  •  2 года назад +1

    Waow ! If anyone reading this knows a provider in France, i am interrested. I asume you deactivates air assist, when available, or it will blow the powder instead of melting it ?

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +1

      Yes, the air assist and fans need to be off. for this to work. Not sure about suppliers in France for powder coating paint, but I know you can find it! Good Luck!

  • @kathleenedwards3491
    @kathleenedwards3491 2 года назад +9

    This is absolutely the best engraving idea I have seen yet!! I am new to the engraving world and am also an Epilog user as well!! Thanks so much and look forward to more great info from you --- thank you :)))

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +1

      Thanks you for your support and kind words, hope you have fun with this method!!

  • @Smithereens655
    @Smithereens655 Год назад +2

    In my desperate time of need, you've really inspired me, we have tried all the other methods and laser dark (it never fails to "bleed") I've sent your top 10 reasons laser engraver business fails and this one to my partner. We have really struggled to keep going, between life events that have happened and not making enough money to keep the business going, to the lack of feeling the spark again

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  Год назад +1

      Thanks Ashley! That is really nice to hear, Im glad I could be some inspiration, and thank you for sharing your truth! We must learn form all our mistakes to get better at whatever it is that we do! I've had my share! and those mistakes have made me a better engraver over time!

    • @Smithereens655
      @Smithereens655 Год назад

      @LaserEngraving911 you're welcome, and thank you for replying! In an attempt to get more awareness of our company, I made a RUclips channel a few days ago! One video so far, which was actually made and intended more for social media 😅 if you are interested, Urban Heart Designs. Whether you che k it out or not, I really appreciate your reply to my comment 😊😁

  • @KodyWebb
    @KodyWebb 2 года назад +3

    pretty good drawing for upside down!

  • @aaronalbee9080
    @aaronalbee9080 2 года назад +3

    I decided I wanted to build cribbage boards in my garage and have been trying to figure out a cool way to make colorful tracks. This video solidified my decision to buy a 10W diode laser which I just got all set up... Super excited to give this a go! Thank you!

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      Glad I could give you some ideas!

    • @merophosis
      @merophosis Год назад

      How did that diode work out for you? I ask because the diode lasers have a cooling fan that usually blows down into the subject you are lasering, so I am worried that the poweder will blow out of the engravings.

    • @aleksanderchojan2128
      @aleksanderchojan2128 Год назад +1

      I wonder which settings are the best for 10W diode laser. My powder arrived today and I’ll give it a try tomorrow 😮

    • @maksl7389
      @maksl7389 Год назад

      @@aleksanderchojan2128 let us know how it goes!

    • @aleksanderchojan2128
      @aleksanderchojan2128 Год назад

      Ok guys, this method works with Creality 10W laser module. I made speed/ power test grid and it seems that the effect looks better on higher power/ higher speed. I guess it’s because of higher penetration

  • @ChunkyJo
    @ChunkyJo 2 года назад +2

    This is an absolute GAME CHANGER We just tried it here at work, and have basically thrown the entire day away playing with powdercoat in the machine.

  • @LightPleasures
    @LightPleasures 2 года назад +5

    Super idea! I'm waiting on my sample paint to arrive and I will be video taping the process. I will be using a 15W Diode laser so my results will be unique. I will post a link to it once it's done (successful or not).

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +1

      I think alot of folks would love to know! if the diode laser works, if it does that's awesome!

    • @themidniteryder
      @themidniteryder 2 года назад +1

      I have the Atomstack x7 Pro, and I would think the cooling fan on to of the head might provide enough draft to give issues on blowing the powder out. Certainly worth a try though.

    • @LightPleasures
      @LightPleasures 2 года назад +3

      So I have an Ortur Master 2, 15W engraver. I've been 'experimenting' with the powder coating paint I bought from you...(I'm going to need to order more soon). I managed to find a perfect solution to the cooling fan 'issue', which I figured out from the start. I'm in the process of recording video of my process and I'll be providing a link back to this video so others can buy your paint samples and begin their journey into painting by powder. Once I get my videos done, I'll launch my RUclips channel starting with this process. Thank you for sharing!

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      @@LightPleasures great! I'm sure all the folks who have diode lasers will be stoked!

    • @aleksanderchojan2128
      @aleksanderchojan2128 Год назад

      @@LightPleasureshow did it go?

  • @marymullen4262
    @marymullen4262 2 года назад +2

    Absolutely fabulous!!!! Goodbye paint!

  • @ThomasEWalker
    @ThomasEWalker Год назад +3

    I'm jumping into engraving as hobby, maybe side business, and your sample pack is perfect for experimenting! It's on the way! Thanks for doing that. I used to run a graphics studio plus did screen print production for a while, and I'm looking forward to getting back into production.

  • @SamDeRaes
    @SamDeRaes Год назад +1

    Would this be able to do on glass?

  • @grootjnr
    @grootjnr 2 года назад +5

    Awesome idea. I cannot wait to try.
    One question. Do you turn your air off when doing the powder part? Otherwise would the air flow blowe the powder out?
    Thanks

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +1

      You must turn off all air assist for this to work, there can be no fans of any kind blowing on the powder while engraving.

    • @icmpeko
      @icmpeko 2 года назад

      Nice! I think I'll try running job 1 to engrave recess as normal (with air assist on) and then run job 2 (same art) w/ color mapping in the Epilog driver turned ON: set with the 13%p/90s/400dpi (or equiv for your machine) and UNCHECK air assist... 💗🐰👍

  •  2 года назад +1

    Usually these powder coats do not need to be fantastically high temp to cure. You can do it in a regular oven. I wonder if metal would be practical if object is heated up to temp first then trying to powder coat it. I guess the powder could melt on the metal if it is too high temp.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +1

      in theory yes, but you would have to follow all the same guidance for regulars powder coating. Cleaning, prep, and so forth

  • @elanvitality1899
    @elanvitality1899 2 года назад +6

    Thanks for a very informative video. Just asking, can you add glitter to the powder and whether you would see a sparkling effect?

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +1

      Hmmm, as long as the laser power your using only melts the powder coat paint and doesn't burn the glitter it should work I would think. What a cool Idea!

    • @TalkingGIJoe
      @TalkingGIJoe 2 года назад

      they make additives for paint powder that have that effect...

    • @bdyer6football
      @bdyer6football 2 года назад

      Yes I am a powder coater in FL and have gotten a couple of signs custom made and tried something new that I added too the clear coat and worked great

    • @mattlikewise9431
      @mattlikewise9431 2 года назад

      Hello I was wondering since your not heating the paint will it eventually fall out or fade away down the line? I received a post from a gentleman who believes it’s gonna be messy in the end. Here is his message to me:
      I do powder and ceramic coatings for a living and that video was honestly hard to watch. There’s virtually no way to get lasting results from this method (aside from luck) as the substrate has to reach the cure temperature of the powder to get a bond. All powders have a specific gel/cure temperature and there’s no way to regulate that with a laser.
      Not trying to be a downer because you can get it to melt and look cool. Just want to advise folks to be careful selling projects like this because when an under or over cured powder fails, you will have some unhappy customers.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      @@mattlikewise9431 I would say that even though your friend who sent you this has much more experience with coating metals , he does not have experience first hand with this process, and has not tried it himself most likely and is comparing the process for coating metals with this process, which is a different substrate, and used for a complete different purpose than coating metal parts, this process is a way to add long lasting color to your engrave on wood and acylic, not metal, and the things you will most likely color will not be used in the same way that powder coated metal items will be used, so the need to cure like you do on metal is mute. The melted paint stay in the engraving just fine for this purpose and does not flake out, or fade away like your fellow assumes. Unless you run your laser too hot and burn it up. Hope that helps answer your questions, and I hope you get a chance to try this method and see for your self what I mean. Good Luck!

  • @davidb1038
    @davidb1038 2 года назад +2

    Hello from the UK, great video I will definitely give this a go

  • @cindyrobinson2618
    @cindyrobinson2618 2 года назад +4

    That’s pretty amazing! I wonder if embossing powder would work as well?? It’s used for papercrafting usually and you use heat to melt it. Hmmm…might have to give it a try! Great video! Thanks for sharing!

    • @prod7054
      @prod7054 2 года назад +1

      Are you talking about gold and other metals. Like using leaf but more intense maybe. Be good to to hear results Cindy

    • @cindyrobinson2618
      @cindyrobinson2618 2 года назад

      @@prod7054 its a powder that you sprinkle on embossing ink and apply heat to melt it.

    • @cindyrobinson2618
      @cindyrobinson2618 2 года назад

      It comes in all different colors.

    • @SuperJoycem
      @SuperJoycem 2 года назад

      @@cindyrobinson2618 I was wondering the same thing. If you try it would you let me know if it works please ? 👍

    • @youmightliketoknow
      @youmightliketoknow 2 года назад +2

      Yes, it does work. I have been doing it with my diode laser for a couple of years - the hard part is finding the right settings via trial and error, different colors required different settings as well (at least for diode lasers)

  • @LPTDC
    @LPTDC Год назад +1

    Great technique. Excellent job testing it and sharing it with your subscribers. Thumbs Up!

  • @AllenMassey
    @AllenMassey 2 года назад +13

    I assume you need to turn the air assist off to keep from blowing the powder around, have you had any issues with the focal lens after doing this? Just a bit worried that the fumes from the paint melting may deposit on the lens.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +4

      yes, def turn off the air assist for sure, and no issue with the fume getting on the lens, my exhaust system pull those back and away from the lens. 😎

    • @melissahumes4912
      @melissahumes4912 2 года назад +2

      @@LaserEngraving911 I tried to turn off my air assist in the layers section of lightburn and it still blows the powder coating out of the engraving. Any suggestions?

    • @christieclayton2909
      @christieclayton2909 2 года назад +2

      @@melissahumes4912 if you have a Mira you have to disconnect the air hose it constantly blows. Not sure what laser you have, but still not getting good results trying to melt the powder myself

    • @nickolascastillo4019
      @nickolascastillo4019 2 года назад

      I was about to ask that as well.

  • @bowerxdps4995
    @bowerxdps4995 13 дней назад +1

    Hi, absolute fantastic results youve got there with the powder coating! Im no expert on the matter at all in powder coating or laser engraving and this is a great insight to all the possible things that you can do.
    Someone has probably already asked the question but i cant find it through the thousands of comments... do you know if you could use the same principle to pwder coat colour onto metals as well?
    Thank you in advance!
    Jack

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 дня назад

      Thanks 👍 no it does not work on metal. You need a cavity to hold the powder in, and the metal needs to be heated for it to bond. You could laser a cavity, put paint in the cavity and bake the engraved metal piece? ...maybe?

  • @WillNelsen
    @WillNelsen 2 года назад +5

    Very cool. I've been curious about the longevity of just this method. (application into wood). I've been mostly curious about different finishes and their interactions with the final "powder coat". I wonder if there would be any loss of adhesion with an oil finish vs a water based finish. IDK ... Perhaps a pull test? Haha. Keep up the great work man!

  • @christophergilpin7909
    @christophergilpin7909 5 месяцев назад +1

    this process has saved me several days from having to mask, clear coat, paint the products. THANK YOU!!!!

  • @amccauley68
    @amccauley68 11 месяцев назад +2

    So very cool! Thank you also for talking about what DIDN'T work, namely leather. I was hoping you found a way to make that happen, but if YOU can't do it, I know i can't! 😂 I enjoyed this video!

  • @grumpysgarage4387
    @grumpysgarage4387 Год назад +2

    Thank you for your videos
    I bought a xtool s1 for the kids this will open their creativity can't wait for the delivery Jan 10th and upload videos of the kids using it
    Cheers Dave

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  Год назад

      Solid, Im looking forward to trying that one out as well.

  • @kristirichmond2221
    @kristirichmond2221 2 года назад +1

    Are there no issues with the exhaust pulling the powder coating powder out of the engrave?

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      I have not had any issues with this, I'm sure with an over powered exhaust it could be an issue, maybe 700cfm or higher/

  • @SuperKaycampbell
    @SuperKaycampbell 12 часов назад +1

    Awesome.
    Will mica paint work for this technique?

  • @laserfalcon
    @laserfalcon 2 года назад +2

    Good demo video
    We tried this in our shop about 10 yrs ago but majority of our customers dealt with metal parts and never tried with wood.
    We had iffy success but nothing worth pursuing so of course busy with other projects so got forgotten.
    Good video you did.👍

  • @John8392
    @John8392 2 года назад +1

    Can you provide a link as to where to purchase? So many different kinds, I'd like to get the right one. Thanks

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      All link to bulk and the sample pack are in the description of my video.

  • @beansandwiched
    @beansandwiched Месяц назад +1

    Could you yet the boards when done or will the mix with the powder and stain the wood?

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  Месяц назад

      Once the powder is melted, you can stain , clear coat no problem.

  • @msidefx1
    @msidefx1 2 года назад +1

    Can you show me the powder paint you used? I think I purchased mica powder and not the correct stuff. I can't get it to melt. It just wipes away no matter what speed or power I use on my co2 laser.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      Sure, in the description of the video the text about the video below the video, I have posted all the links to where to buy it. Just scroll through and find the links you need.

  • @MrZieglertim
    @MrZieglertim 2 года назад +1

    So what did you do about your air? I tested the other night and most blew off. So I unplugged my air line from the built in air pump.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      I only run my air, when I'm cutting, on my laser, all air assist must be turned off for sure during this technique.

    • @MrZieglertim
      @MrZieglertim 2 года назад +1

      @@LaserEngraving911 Did you do anything special to shut your air off? I have the newer Fusion pro and have not way of shutting it off but disconnecting the air hose.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      @@MrZieglertim just turn off the compressor, you have a outboard compressor correct? I have the fusion edge , I just turn off the external compressor. 👍

    • @MrZieglertim
      @MrZieglertim 2 года назад +1

      @@LaserEngraving911 No the Fusion pro has it inside and it starts automatically when you start lasering to help keep the lens clean.
      There is no way of shutting it off.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      @@MrZieglertim then disconnect the hose going to the lens housing and divert the air coming out away from the surface. That's the only way I guess you can swing it.

  • @mariadelosangelesgarcia6431
    @mariadelosangelesgarcia6431 2 года назад +1

    Hello is me again, I have power paint that I use with Epoxy Resin, can I used it, is the same??

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      no, it is not the same, that type of mica powder for coloring epoxy does not work.

  • @bginn3448
    @bginn3448 3 месяца назад +1

    quick question... what about laser head air assist. Can it still be used on a low setting or should it be disconnected? Thanks so much for the video it was very well done. I am going to give this approach a test... Thanks again

  • @armastat
    @armastat 7 месяцев назад +1

    Could you use a stencil to allow placing different colors into the same image area

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  7 месяцев назад

      that might get kind of messy and over complicated

  • @lisakingscott7729
    @lisakingscott7729 Год назад +1

    Great idea!
    It struck me when I saw this that you could do a sort of laser version of silkscreen printing on metal. Using a normal powder coat gun, coat a piece of metal, then use the laser to selectively cure the powder to produce the desired 'print'. The excess powder could be brushed off for reuse. I came across this video looking for laser cut polyimide (heat resistant) stencils to produce lettering using powder coating. However this method looks easier.
    A couple of points to note however.
    1. Powder coat plastics are usually thermoset, rather than thermoplastic. I.e. when they melt and fuse together, they undergo a polymerisation reaction which sets them solid. Heating them again does not melt them. Thermoplastics can be melted again.
    The other point is that powder coat paints take time to properly cure. The manufacturer's data will normally specify a range of temperatures that it needs to be 'cooked' at. The time is usually around 10 minutes.
    2. Using the laser going as fast as you show may melt the powder, but it might not cure it. Depending on the powder type (polyester or epoxy are common) acetone can be used to test whether the powder is cured. Acetone will not affect properly cured powder coat (although some epoxy type are soluble in acetone even when set), but uncured powder coat is soluble in acetone.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  Год назад

      The laser wont bond it to the metal. Cool Idea though, yes correct on the curing, the laser does not cure the powder, to do that you would have to place your object in the oven, which is dicey depending on what the object is you engraving. a piece of wood probly ok, someone's jewelry box prob not ok. Im glad my video got you thinking in new creative ways! Thank you for commenting.!

  • @CraigHollabaugh
    @CraigHollabaugh 2 года назад +1

    You mentioned in your conclusion unsuccessful with metal, did you use a power coating gun to apply the powder? Hey, thanks for the video, this technique is excellent and simple.

  • @karatohongkongcat
    @karatohongkongcat 2 года назад +1

    Cool beans just ordered the sample from you and waiting On my xTool M1, plus the air assist too and and few other goodies

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +1

      Great, sounds cool, just make sure you turn off all air assist while melting the powder coating. or it will blow the powder out of the engraving before it gets melted.

    • @karatohongkongcat
      @karatohongkongcat 2 года назад

      @@LaserEngraving911 Ty will be going to
      Your vid’s for advice and techniques

  • @michaelrunnels7660
    @michaelrunnels7660 2 года назад +1

    This video shows how to engrave laser engraved etchings in vibrant color. I think I'll use black. You're a funny guy!

  • @timpawelk1792
    @timpawelk1792 2 года назад +1

    I picked up some powder coat paint from a neighbor business a year ago and never got around to trying this. Great to know it works!

  • @inc55
    @inc55 Год назад +1

    Fantastic video. Would staining the wood be possible and applying the powdercoat?

  • @ericfuentes7163
    @ericfuentes7163 Год назад +1

    Thank you. I was really thinking about using laser for cooking instead of traditional oven thingy.

  • @Giaour
    @Giaour 2 года назад +1

    This is best laser use for engraving I have seen!

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      I don't know about all that , but it sure is cool, and fun! Thank You for your support!

  • @bginn3448
    @bginn3448 3 месяца назад +1

    Hey Steve, I saw another video using powder paint, but they used the heat gun rather than the laser for the melt pass. Looking at both processes and sleeping on it LOL, I have decided that the laser second pass is the best for me. The reason I say this is because using the heat gun does not have the heat control the laser does, which allows the residual powder (outside of the engraved area) to attain some heat from the gun and melting that residual paint into the wood depending on the type of wood and it's inherent grain pattern/depth which then creates another step in order. to remove that residual melted powder. I would prefer not to have another step in the process! I know that you can mask in order to keep that from happening, but that is an extra step as well. I do understand that using the laser pass for heat requires the product to be stationary but I have no problem accomplishing that. At least others do have another choice to help make their final decision. So, I thank you for your expertise and all that went into this process and time you have spent doing so.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  3 месяца назад

      Appreciate you pointing that out in such detail I feel the same way, but people are going to do what they want, and if they want to use ovens and heat guns.. then that is what they will do. :)

    • @bginn3448
      @bginn3448 3 месяца назад

      @@LaserEngraving911 Yes they will. Welcome to planet Earth (-:

  • @desparzaification
    @desparzaification Год назад +1

    BRILLIANT! How did the laserdo with the white powder?

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  Год назад

      It's good, with a co2 and right settings, but not so hot with diode lasers.

  • @mistydallapiazza6874
    @mistydallapiazza6874 2 года назад +1

    Where do you get the powder coating?

  • @KitchenBuddha
    @KitchenBuddha 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have been trying a LIGHT application of Spray 77 (3M) adhesive, then sprinkle powder coat thru a stretched cotton filter media where I want the color. This is for images, have to be artistic! Working several images of Mandelbrot sequences and so far great results. Clean completed burn(s) w/ Mr Clean magic eraser and light water, then air compressor.

  • @michaelenglund
    @michaelenglund Год назад +1

    Great. Can you skip one step and spread powder over a clean surface and laser once?

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  Год назад

      no, you need to engrave a channel for the power to rest in.

  • @kimelliott1521
    @kimelliott1521 Месяц назад +1

    This is spectacular. I used to do powder coating and I just got a laser so I have got to try this for sure. BTW you just tapped out the brush and cleaned the squeegee to transfer colours...it used to take me about an hour to clean out the booth at work LOL

  • @DimensionMachine
    @DimensionMachine 2 года назад +1

    I have seen other poople do this, none of them explained it as well, or had the impressive results that you did. Great video, now I need to go try it!

  • @michaelksiezopolski
    @michaelksiezopolski Год назад +1

    is it possible to use diode laser to powder coating wood?

  • @JoeAmmo461
    @JoeAmmo461 День назад +1

    Just to be clear, maybe missed it but can you use a Diode laser or must it be a CO2?

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  12 часов назад

      you can use a diode laser, but you might have issue with the white and light colors.

  • @armastat
    @armastat 7 месяцев назад +1

    I am getting my laser tomorrow and for the last week i have spent hours on my graphics program designing test plates for all sorts of stuff, like depth cut on XXX wood vs speed and power engraving tones, so and so on, with this one Im gonna need another few, I think its abt 30 test plates by now, lol.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  7 месяцев назад

      That’s exciting. Sounds like you’re off to a good start.

  • @dannybush6131
    @dannybush6131 2 года назад +1

    This is awesome. I have powder coated for years and this is a great new use for this material. Thank you for the idea this rocks.

  • @rogerwilliams5020
    @rogerwilliams5020 Год назад +1

    Congratulations Man! One of the best hacks I've ever seen. If not the best!👍

  • @CJMCreates
    @CJMCreates 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for the awesome tutorial. In your experience, would this process work with acrylic or metals?

  • @makerspace533
    @makerspace533 2 года назад +2

    I wonder if a little de-focus might help during the curing stage. For metal panels, maybe a fairly deep engrave with the fiber, applying the power, then bake in the oven like you normally do would work.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      That might work, can you let us know if you pull it off!

    • @lionpawprintsandmedia
      @lionpawprintsandmedia Год назад

      The oven will bake any residual powered surface if it's not cleaned up 100%. May ruin the project

  • @bryandastmalchi3250
    @bryandastmalchi3250 Год назад +1

    Very cool! How can this same result be achieved using a fiber laser and titanium?

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  10 месяцев назад

      You can do colors with a fiber laser but you will need a MOPA fiber laser to do this, there are lots of videos on this on YT

  • @marieochs1882
    @marieochs1882 2 года назад +1

    When trying to burn with the powder coat on our vertical rectangles the first 1/8 to 1/4 inch doesn’t melt on each of the colors. The rest burns melts great. Try a second pass with color same thing. This only happens with the powder coat. Would attach a picture but don’t know how. Thanks

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад +1

      Sounds like your table might be out of level, if its not starting to melt until after the job gets going, your table could be at a slope, or the wood could be warped, or focus could be off. I don't know what system you have or machine and wattage, so that's my best guess.

    • @marieochs1882
      @marieochs1882 2 года назад +1

      Thank you for the suggestion. We have a 60W co2 laser engraver. We were using scrap wood but on a different project using the black power it was still there but didn’t show us as bad. I’ll put a 2’ level on the bed and check it out. Thanks again.

  • @JimNichols
    @JimNichols 2 года назад +2

    Innovation is an amazing thing!

  • @mikekleinschmidt3671
    @mikekleinschmidt3671 2 месяца назад +1

    Curious if you have tried sealing the powder coating with something like Krylon or other clear coatings after the laser process.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 месяца назад

      You can for sure it does not effect it at all, epoxy, krylon clear, what ever yes.

  • @eddycheung4693
    @eddycheung4693 11 месяцев назад +1

    amazing tutrial! do you know if it work on metal?

  • @TheStupendousMusicMan
    @TheStupendousMusicMan 22 дня назад +1

    Wow amazing! I am wondering if this technique would work on ceramic tiles? What are your thoughts?

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  22 дня назад +1

      unless you have a way to engrave very deep on ceramic,, then no it wont work. You need to have a cavity for the powder to sit in. Engrave deep into ceramic reques alot of power or a UV laser.

    • @TheStupendousMusicMan
      @TheStupendousMusicMan 22 дня назад

      @@LaserEngraving911 Ahhh that's too bad but thanks a lot, I am currently exploring ways to add color to engraved tiles, I've seen several tutorials using paint, but wanted perhaps an easier, less messy approach. Thanks for the knowledge you provide!

  • @jffqnn
    @jffqnn Год назад

    I haven't read all the comments yet but was curious if this technique would work using a 5.5 Watt Blue Diode Laser?
    I'm absolutely Brand New to Laser Engraving Anything and I've been watching multiple RUclips Videos just to learn how to use Lightburn and LaserGRBL.
    So Much to learn but WOW, definitely not a Boring Craft!!
    Thank You for Your Time and Ideas!!
    I'm just getting into the laser engraving to keep my mind busy and learn something new but certainly can see potential in it, even if I only make something for Family and Friends.
    Thanks Again for the Awesome Video!! 🙂

  • @19ChrisDanielS93
    @19ChrisDanielS93 4 месяца назад +1

    Is it necessary to first engraving the piece?
    Or can I put a thin Layer of powder on my materials and let it burn it onto the surface?

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  4 месяца назад

      engrave first to hold the powder in place, and make sure your air assist is off!

  • @CrazyCronicAvenger
    @CrazyCronicAvenger 2 года назад +1

    Just a thought if you engraved metal with your fiber laser in the corner and then switched it to the diode or co2 laser to melt it cause it works with those would be hard to get it lined up by must be a repeatable way to offset x and y from home if they are both in the corners

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  2 года назад

      For sure that would work, the only problem is that the power coat paint does not bond to the metal like it does to wood and acrylic. To get it to bond to the metal you would have to properly bake it in.

  • @mcotter11
    @mcotter11 Год назад +1

    Awesome method! Have you tried wiping the board down after finishing? I am considering using this technique to make menus for a local restaurant (green background with white lettering) but they would be wiping off their 'menus' on a regular... I'm thinking sealing it with a poly finish or something

  • @jmbadsector
    @jmbadsector 2 года назад +1

    Impressive, nice idea, I may try this!

  • @RedPillSurvival
    @RedPillSurvival Год назад +1

    Would printer toner work with this technique?

  • @charlesmyers9765
    @charlesmyers9765 3 месяца назад +1

    Could use like a finger print brush to dust the object without disturbing, or just make some alignment marks.

  • @MatthewRSimpson
    @MatthewRSimpson Год назад +1

    Might be a silly question, but why not just stick your job down with double sided tape? That way you wont have to keep hold of it when brushing or using the card to remove the thick of the powder.

  • @door2doorwoodworking
    @door2doorwoodworking Год назад +1

    Great video I’ve also heard instead laser for a second time, just hitting it with the heat gun, provides the same result.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  Год назад +1

      Not so sure about that, however if you choose to do that make sure that every little speck of powder outside of your intended color area is cleaned off first, because unlike the using the laser to melt, your heat gun will melt everything on the surface and inside the engraved area, and you cannot get a precise as the laser can when melting. Unless you want little spots of powder coating paint melted all around your intended area, I would stick with the laser to melt it.

  • @royboy6890
    @royboy6890 2 года назад +1

    Great video. I am new to laser engraving and started with the engineering side of the machines by buying faulty machines to figure out both the mechanical and control operation before purchasing a new CO2 machine. Whilst starting with the design side and operation with regards to different speeds and powers with regards to shading of the engraving and the final cut I have been thinking about the colour aspect as well and powder coating came to mind. I will be trying the single colour first with basic design but thinking of going forward to incorporate multiple grouping during design where the first engraving at the required engraving depth is completed then each groups colouring is done by your method by filling and that group settings lowered for the colouring and the rest of the groups disabled then the excess vacuumed away before moving to the next group colour and doing the same process. Even the basic system of RDworks V8 gives the option of multiple groupings to obtain what I hope will give nice results. Just need to learn a decent design level first though.

  • @RanGer-498
    @RanGer-498 2 года назад +1

    I want to get into laser engraving, what program and unit should i start out with ? Many thanks

  • @lightning4201
    @lightning4201 2 года назад +1

    This is hands down one of the best videos that I've seen. Very innovative.

  • @patberry3388
    @patberry3388 Год назад +1

    When will you have the powder in stock? I have an Epilog 60 watt edge that I could use it with. I really enjoy engraving and using powder coat is a great way to fill. Thanks.

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  Год назад

      Working on it, maybe a week, in the mean time I listed all the ebay links where I get it if you need it sooner.

  • @alwayscensored6871
    @alwayscensored6871 2 года назад +1

    Is the powder fine enough to mix a few colours to get different shades. This looks like a great way to add colour or deeper black.

  • @tracyhubbard4637
    @tracyhubbard4637 Год назад +1

    Hi, Thanks so much for your videos ... they're great! I have a small 10w diode.... what settings would you recommend? Thank you!

    • @LaserEngraving911
      @LaserEngraving911  Год назад

      I dont use diodes, so I could not recommend a setting, but in general, fastest speed low power, then work up power until you get results.