This is NOT the Canon EOS R5
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![Canon 5D Mark II RAW Video Settings | Magic Lantern RAW [2020] Full-Frame](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/FeoSjDo6YPQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Instantly knew that it was going to be about Magic Lantern.
Armando PLEASE use the 5Dmk2 in a comparison video, image quality with one of your cinema cameras, or record one of your regular videos using the 5Dmk2
Would be nice to use some cinema lenses like Angenieux or Yours Canon CN-E
Yes please
5D II vs blackmagic 6k
Make it happen, Armando! 🙏
Yeah
I will always love the 5D Mark II . I bought it (for video) right before they updated the firmware that allowed manual exposure for video( maybe 10 years ago?) Once the firmware was released, the floodgates of creativity opened up! This camera reignited my passion for video production when it was released. I remember almost loosing a good gig because I showed up with a photo camera to a video shoot! 😅. The producers freaked out on me . Then they saw the footage and their mouths dropped! On that same project, the editors at the network called me wanting to know what camera did I use, because they were blown away by the look of the footage they were working with. Tough camera too! I traveled the world shooting different projects in very challenging environmental conditions. I may buy another and play around with the ML software. Thanks for sharing!
I just copped one for $360 and this pops up in my feed, had no idea the ML was that good for it
Haha same here. finally switching from m4/3 to full frame. feels like getting pubes
Hello Mr. Adobe
whats the ml link?
But...does it dj0nt?
huh what are you doing here?🤔
This camera got me started in video. It probably still holds up in 2020 for 1080p exports. Full frame 1080p with magic lantern = beast mode!
Magic Lantern should do a kickstarter to fund more development...
Agree
@@mondobytes Id pay to beef up my m50
Magic Latern should be
With more budget they could start working on other brands too
I think the 5.6K raw is only limited to 3.8fps is because of the slow compact flash slot on the camera. If I remember it correctly, the compact flash card slot on 5D mark iii is only 100MB/s and SD card slot is 80MB/s, but I am also trying to install this magic lantern on (my dad's) 5D mark iii though and compare the image to my own ZCAM E2-F6, very exited to see the results.
yes.....finally mentioned around 5:38
SD slot on 5d mk3 is 20/22 mB/s
(if not overclocked, but on 5dmk3 seems not working this workaround)
what about using a ninja recorder?
Wow.. thanks for making this video, two weeks ago I just boxed up my 5d2 to get it ready to sell because I was done with it after 12 years... it's still sitting in my garage and I think you just made it an easier sell.
I remember checking out ML when I was upgrading from my 5DIII a few years ago. At that time I just didn't want to pull the trigger and risk potentially bricking my ONLY camera - but given that a 5DII is only $500... 🤔 Thanks for the inspiration, man!
I destroyed one of my 5dmkii by shutting off the camera during operation. Handle magic lantern with extreme care.
Can’t believe this camera is still so good. Gear Focus I need to check it out.
Details like max frame rate and resolution that can be achieved should be included. It is quintessential and few footage from either side of the band will be much more informative.
Hi Armando! The video cuts abruptly at 6:01! Thought you might wanna know! Cheers!
Yup got rid of the shady sponsor that was there before
Yes Armando! the 5D2 was my first ever camera that got me into filmmaking! It's the absolute bare bones of pro camera today. I still use one as a back up and for personal projects
It's June 2020 and just bought a 2nd hand 5Dii, like brand new only 7k clicks (2nd hand prices are now fabulous ... great value for money).
I have tested it for a few weeks under various conditions such as low-light/sun/rain/indoors/outdoors etc and the 5DMK2 this a VERY capable camera in the right hands.
I'm mainly a stills-image shooter who shot for around 25 years (pre-digital as well) and I have very little interest in video, so I'm looking forward to use it for many years to come and even use it for some paid jobs. I'm not shooting sports and don't need exceptional crazy frame rates. Auto focus is good enough if you use the center spot only and I also find RAW files up to ISO 3200 to be good enough to sell to wedding clients if you use good lenses (might need a SLIGHT noise reduction in Lightroom on a few occasions). Normally its only photographers who pixel-peep, clients are more focused on moments and emotions instead of technicality.
Also, try to put some outside perspective into our consumer society where we are tricked into getting new gear/upgrades all the time. It was not that long ago Professionals used EOS-D1 for their corporate work and created fantastic images displayed on large billboards. The list-price for D1 on release was around 6500 Dollars even though the resolution was a meagre 4 MegaPixel only, but still photographers managed to generate fantastic photos on such small resolution. Some of the best + most historical images we seen are pre-digital, taken using a camera which literally was a box with a piece of glass in the front without any technology.
Today people are buying cameras that are more powerful than the computer that took humanity to the moon in the 1960s... AND they cost as much as a second-hand car!!!!
Even so, we often still see generic photos that could have been taken with any consumer camera. So looks like we don't need better more expensive gear, we need better photographers ... we have become so lazy with too much "auto" expectations.
Isnt the d1 a nikon?
I just sold my APS-C and I'm getting a 5d mk2 for $350 with only 20k shots 😲
Just bought 5d MK III for 600€ and only 60k shots on it.
I still use Magic Lantern daily! I wish we could rebuild the community to be what it was in 2013.
It's a dying community 😭. No new cameras added since 5D Mark III, and they get very bitter when you ask questions about ML for any newer camera.
@@sohailahmad7016 M50 is in the works and that is from 2018 so
It was an exciting time! It catapulted a lot of us into large sensor cinematography. It was finally affordable and accessible. Philip Bloom was our guide . I remember when I would email him for gear advice and get a response in about an hour. Yup, a different time.
@@jannoj9268 that's nice to know about M50. But I was thinking about the 5D Mark IV, new 1DX and other newer full frames. And even 7D mark ii.
sohail ahmad well that will still take awhile I guess... New processor, new restrictions, shrinking developer community
I just got a 5D Mk II for stills and I absolutely love it, it's so underrated.
@sergio oliveira Enjoy!
Oh man now I want a 5D MK II going to check out Gear Focus right now!!
Carlos Delgado you will NOT be disappointed!
I remember when this RAW capability with ML came out back in 2013, back then i was a broke film student and could only afford a 50$ card that could do 1920x880 RAW and the camera got so damn hot lol. Still got my 5d mkII..feeling like trying this out again now that memory cards are faster and affordable. Not enough people knew about this!!
I remember in 2009 my neighbor was a very successful photographer and I remember him scrolling through pictures and a video popped up and I was like wtf you shot that with this!? I had never seen someone shoot video that had shallow depth of field, and this guy didn't really shoot video he was just messing around with his 5D2. It really did change everything, being able to get the cinema look for $2500 was just unheard of. I had a Canon Vixia at the time that I thought was cool and got rid of it for a T2i right away and got a 5DII a few months later.
I'm using ML on my EOS M. it looks great on such a small camera. Now I'm looking for a cheap 5D MK II. Your video answered all my questions about ML on the 5D... Cheers!
@@tothemoon2151 haha.. my comment was 6 months ago. since then I bought 2 5D mark 2's and am very happy... I also bought 2 black magic cameras because I'm addicted to cameras I guess 😂
The hacked 1080p image is amazing even today
I believe this cam didn't have 24 fps when it was released. It came via firmware a little later. We shot a lot of jobs with the Rebel T2i and the 5d Mark II back in the days. Haven't used raw with this cam yet
6'12": sickness of owning a touch screen camera. Hey Armando!
On RUclips you can type timestamps like 6:12 which will make them clickable.
Loved this. Very cool. 14-bit for $500, that's INSANE.
The video cut off before the end!
Lovely footage.
I have a 5D mark II that I bought to record RAW footage with. This video explained a lot of the pluses but there are some technical problems you might have to work through before you dial in your process and more limitations than were mentioned here. And one big limitation is heat. If you are inside and are consistently recording takes in RAW, the camera will heat up in only a couple of minutes and you will need some time to let it cool. Out side on a cold day should be fine. But if its hot out you will get the same problem. The file size also caps out at 4GB before the recording will just stop. This only gives about a minute of footage per take. This is a good camera for B roll. Don't think people are shooting full projects using raw on this camera without a LOT of peripheral support.
That camera changed the video world for ever. We were still talking about ground glass just days before. Now interchangeable lenses are a given thanks to it.
frosted glass?
my dad bought the 5D mark II way back 10 years ago and i still use it till now for photos and stills, i bought myself a Canon M50 for vlogging and light weight travel purposes
Great Video.. I am planning to Save up for.. Canon R5c.. but Lately i have been looking at the... Canon 5D mark 3... with Magic Lantern....
I want to work with Both.. Photo And Video.. that is why I want Canon R5c...
but... Canon 5D Mark 3 with Magic Lantern.. .IS AN INCREDIBLE OPTION...
Bought this as my first "pro" camera in 2017. Once I updated the firmware it was a beast, and the difference between this and the mark iv isn't as wide of a gap as you'd think. Glad to see it getting the recognition it deserves
WOW!!!! I have an old 5DmkII laying around in a dusty camerabag.
Thanks to you, I'm searching for that bag right now!
:D
Let me buy it XD
Only reason i switched from mk2 to mk4 was dualpixel AF and 60p. I have to say that if you dont do video then cameras havent had any significant improvments from the 5dmk2. you can get just as good pictures with a mk2 than any other camera on the market today
That's why I've just bought it. If it was capable of shooting amazing pictures 14 years ago, then it's still able to do it now. Also the resolution is still high by modern standards.
Armando, Great video! I’ve owned a 5D Mark II since 2010 and I wanna use it as a B camera again, but last I checked (like a month ago) magic lantern raw DIDN’T support 1920x1080 or greater at 24p. Has something recently changed? Can you share what frame rates and raster sizes you’re capturing for full motion video? The captions in your video state 5.6 K or 2.7 K but there’s no indication as to what the frame rate is. THX!
Would love to see this released for the Canon 6D Mark II or 5D Mark IV. Perhaps it's not possible with newer Canon DSLRs...?
Canon threatened to sue way back for anything done passed the 5dmk3, they also changed up the way the hack needed to be implemented so much higher rate to BRICK the camera, so ppl were not will to give up 5Dmk4 to try and begin development especially since there is no way to fix it once its fucked
@@nicholasboule5134 ML is available for the 700D and the 70D, both 2013 models, newer than the 5D mk3. Also, work's been done on the 80D, the m50 and probably other newer cameras, but it's not in working condition.
@@angelangelov2354 none of these are full frame, canon doesnt care about aps-c cams
@@nicholasboule5134 Sorry but this is just NOT what they said on Magic Lantern website :
Supported cameras:
5D Mark II, 5D Mark III, 6D, 7D, 50D, 60D, 500D/T1i, 550D/T2i, 600D/T3i, 650D/T4i, 700D/T5i, 1100D/T3, EOS M.
In progress:
70D, 100D/SL1, 1200D/T5, 450D/XSi, EOS M2, EOS M50.
5D3 1.3.4, 7D 2.0.6, 550D 1.1.0, EOS M 2.0.3.
(downloads available, feedback and/or help needed)
Porting started:
80D, 200D, 77D, 5D Mark IV, 7D Mark II, 5DS/R (Hello World)
1300D, 2000D, 4000D, 750D, 760D, 800D, 6D Mark II, EOS R, SX70, SX740 (ROM dumpers available)
@@nicholasboule5134 Yeh right... Magic Lantern is being ported on newer cams....both aps-c and full frame models much newer than the 5D mk3
On their website it says
Supported cameras:
5D Mark II, 5D Mark III, 6D, 7D, 50D, 60D, 500D/T1i, 550D/T2i, 600D/T3i, 650D/T4i, 700D/T5i, 1100D/T3, EOS M.
In progress:
70D, 100D/SL1, 1200D/T5, 450D/XSi, EOS M2, EOS M50.
5D3 1.3.4, 7D 2.0.6, 550D 1.1.0, EOS M 2.0.3.
(downloads available, feedback and/or help needed)
Porting started:
80D, 200D, 77D, 5D Mark IV, 7D Mark II, 5DS/R (Hello World)
1300D, 2000D, 4000D, 750D, 760D, 800D, 6D Mark II, EOS R, SX70, SX740 (ROM dumpers available)
I would rather spend a little more and buy a used Canon C300 than use aftermarket software on a 12-year-old DSLR. That way I'd have built in ND filters, autofocus and usable audio with XLR inputs. The image from the C300 is captured on one of the best 4k sensors out there. That said, I feel some people get too caught up in buzzwords like 'raw' '4k' '6k' '8k' and 'bitrate' Instead of looking at the actual image you capture. I own a Canon C300 mark ii now, but before this I had the original canon C300 and was always blown away with the images I captured.
Vance Crofoot lol “a little” the difference between a C300 and a 5D Mark II isn’t a “little” difference it’s actually a massive difference.
@@mondobytes You mean price wise? I can find a good used C300 for a couple grand, and again, it comes with built in ND filters, autofocus and usable built in audio with XLR inputs. Those things would be add ons at an additional cost with an old DSLR.
Been using MagicLantern software for years now. Love it !!
Any tips and heads ups??
Will it brick your camera?
Magic Lantern has been around for YEARS. I totally forgot about it 🤣
Cant believe this was used on House. Amazing show with an amazing camera.
Wow, you've totally blown my mind with this. Incredible video, well done!
Love this Armando , I have been tinkering with the 5d a while back, Unfortunately mine decided to die already, but I’m sure the latest ML is even better , man wish mine still works! Great stuff bro 👍
Magic lantern will not give 5k 24fps movie mode because the sensor readout is really-really slow. But this it is a great option for timelapses, if you can buy a card large enough
Great video! You need to be extremely careful with magic lantern. I destroyed one of my 5dmkii by shutting off the camera during operation. Handle magic lantern with extreme care.
I just started hacking my T3i last week with Magic Lantern. Even without a nice lens, there's noticeable improvement.
Another great video Armando. We are glad to call you a friend as well. ✌Keep up the great content! Cheers
Hollywood shot movies with a 5d mark II. the problem is that they use 20k lens and other tens or hundreds K of equipment plus a complete team of professionals and a complete set a professional post production team with good equipment and good actors and good sound recording.
The final result is made by many things. I don't think it's realistic to say that me and my 5d can make the same stuff Hollywood does with its 5d.
Besides this art doesn't rely on the resolution, real cinema is free from the 4k addiction. Resolution to me is just something you are forced to upgrade for the market and the consumerism.
All this hanger for resolution makes me feel there will be everyday less contents, less to say. I hope this addiction will finish
I didn’t watch the video, but I can tell he was talking about Magic Lantern, an elder firmware my grandpa was using back in the days
This is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Honestly this is a great option for those with a lower budget that still want their footage to be competitive on the market right now, great video!
Greatest clickbait ever.
Lmao yess
Wait is this false?
I don't think so.
Yeah true but 5.6K at 3.8fps. Great for timelapse.
@@dtibor5903 it's like a burst of native Res images
The video just suddenly ended?
Knew about the ML hack but didn't realize they'd developed a software to transcode the footage for you. That makes things much easier.
I knew keeping my 5dmii in storage would be a nice time capsule. Always knew about ML but never used it. Will definitely be diving into it soon.
😍😍😍😍😍😍 Amazing! I still have the canon 5d Mark II, I'm going to try this!
Hi how much can you sell your 5D mark ii. I'm Frank from Uganda in East Africa.
@@snapshotmediagroupuganda9105 Hi, I'm not selling it. Sorry
The clickbait is real. 😂🤣
magic lantern is legit
Edward Heavrin lol ok
Edward Heavrin that’s just 5k. Everything else is 24-48fps depending on the mode, for $500 which is what I spent on my 5Dii, it’s not a bad deal.
Peter C exactly.. idk why he was being a dick
Is the Mark III superior in Dynamic range shooting raw? I found out my friend is selling his mII for $400,00 . Also, can I shoot 60 FPS with ML?
Just a heads up, the 5Dii can give beautiful footage but the biggest drawback is by far the rolling shutter. I mean for the price you can’t complain, but the pocket 4K is only $1200 and you can shoot without hack 4k 60p and the rolling shutter is very decent
Something to note if you're considering trying Magic Lantern:
The workflow is absolutely PUNISHING. You're min-maxing cost to quality here, convenience and practicality is thrown out of the window the moment you install ML.
So for a semi pro creator this wouldn't be the best idea right?
@@hi_tamani Yes, not the best idea. It IS useable, and it does produce great results, but in an industry where every second counts, you're just adding unnecessary work yourself.
Magic Lantern files aren't usable straight out of the card, you're going to either have to pre-grade then export to pro-res or export to cdng which you will have to grade anyways in your NLE to get the best results.
But if you are interested, a Canon EOS M would be a better idea, it's readily available for less than $150 and it has the biggest community and the most stable build, before I switched cams I think the 5k anamorphic raw mode was pretty useable already.
Loved the video, makes me want to shoot RAW!
LOVE ML!! I use it on EOS 6D 💚 So many cool additional features.
Love my 5D!! It STAYS in my bag along with my M50, EOS RP
The camera that started my career 🙏🏻👌🏻
Fantastic video!! You explained Magic Lantern better than most RUclips videos have and made it seem very approachable, which many RUclips videos fails to do.
Wooow! That footage! I have the eosr and it doesn’t look as gorgeous! I am jealous!
This camera changed my life
Canon 5D mark 2 I think I'll be purchasing that now nice with my EOS-R
You know you’re having a bad day when you manage to void your warranty and have a seizure all in the one video!
aint no warranties left from a camera produced in 2012 haha
CineBlogs If that’s the case I’ll settle for the seizure
Technically shouldn't void your warranty since the hacked firmware only lives on your memory card and doesn't actually change anything in the camera.
@@JIYkp False. ML overrides the camera firmware and then runs from the card. It absolutely can damage your camera.
Would be good to see this review of other mid tier DSLRs with Magic Lantern to get a feel for what is most viable. I'm sure the age of some of these cameras directly effects the potential framerate and resolution you can get.
I have been using this software for like 6 month now and its getting better
Gerald Undone shared your channel and wow... that's nice! Already happy to have found your channel. And this video was great... really helpful due to keeping things inside the budget. ))) Thank you ! )))
everyone was so tied into the “next camera” like the gh 4/5 and whatever sony put out, that magic lantern canon were completely overlooked. ironic, magic lantern canon WERE the next best thing and still are
The amount of people who didn't know about magic lantern is shocking. I tried it years ago. It's just not worth the extra workload.
Back then the frames would drop often and the camera would stop recording.
It’s not the same anymore, it’s changed so much and the workflow is easy! I’d totally use this as a B Cam in fact we have used it 😂
That’s why I love Canon ❤️
You love canon because they held back on these features, most likely on a lot of expensive cameras that could've been included in too? Canon has been ripping people off for years. You love magic lantern, without them you have a good camera but not great. (it was great at its release). I applaud magic lantern since they probably helped pave the way for a lot of affordable cinema quality items we see on the market today. The 5d MKII was about $3000 when it came out and when you look at the video codec it recorded in natively it was god awful (granted it was designed for still and it is still amazing at that. Canon had very little to do with something like this. Also he should be stating the recording times, dropped frame issues, and frame rate limitations at resolutions. For about the same price you can just get an old BMPC 4k, BMCC 2.5k, BMMCC 4K (which shoots 4k 60p), or even the og bmpcc (1080p raw which looks amazing and even looks amazing when superscaled). All of which have no problems recording. This thing will have major limitations on the old compact flash 1.0.
@@mrwashur1991 bruh...
I’m a Sony head. But I admit, this is pretty awesome. Kinda want to buy a Canon 5D now lol
@@aguynamedatidade yes?
5d2 was my first full frame camera from the t1i and that thing was a beast and it's crazy that it still is after a decade. This means that our cameras now have so much more potential with better software. If only magic lantern could hack the eos R
Loved this one. Would love More videos on magic lantern. Saludos desde Argentina Armando!
Wow. I can't believe the image quality and dynamic range coming out of such an old camera. That price is crazy too. Great video!
I got one :D, still the most pleasing colors out of any canon cameras >.>
Did this like 3yrs ago. It’s a little buggy with some dropped frames. Also, there is no flat color profile so it’s a little harder to match color grades IMO. Pretty amazing from an old camera though. I used it on a client shoot but only to grab alternate shots once I knew I had what I needed.
I doubt you'll see any higher frame rates than that. It's not really an issue of firmware allowing it. It's the recording media interface. Compact flash 1.0 is not fast enough.
i currently own Canon t7i, been using that for past year. i think i’m ready for a upgrade. i would like to go for mirrorless camera, which one will be ideal for me. $750-$1200 would be my buget. any suggestion guys ? i prefer sony or canon
I've been hoping for a while now that they would make something for the 80D, but there hasn't been much development for that camera. Maybe I should look at some other options too.
you wont be disappointed with a 5dmk3, easily best looking ML camera
I love those lenses 😎 Great vid!! Freakin love ML!
Great video, thank you! I’ve been using my Canon 5D MKIII for live-streaming and my hack is to start it recording for 30 minutes and then the screen stays on for another 30 minutes after that, but if I don’t start another clip before that hour is up, the camera clicks over to black. Do you know if the M.L. hacks it to where the screen can stay on indefinitely? Thank you!
Ah I remember the early days of Magic Lantern. I actually kind of miss it. Time to pick up another Canon! 😂
Haha oddly enough I felt the same way. I kinda miss it lol
What’s the crop factor like when using full HD and the 14Bit?
And are there any restrictions on record time?
Magic Lantern...now there’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time....
I have a 6D. Checking this out now!
Yeeeah. I use 5d mark 3 in 1920*1080 60 fps in RAW . If you shoot some short movies with crew, it's may be can help you get amazing image quality. But if you do
reportage or something fast and you need edit it fast, it's probably not for you.
damn you Armando.
I'm trying to buy one for my second body for my photo biz.
Don't be hyping people up and raising up the value on this haha.
Armando could you make us video about Magic Lantern and the process! Thanks
There’s ton already on RUclips
@@mondobytes You know I'm a big fan of your videos, but is alright
This camera was such a game changer. $500 is an incredible deal!
I don't think that any professional productions will use such software, but considering that it's a 5DMK2, that's RAD!!!
Just picked up a MarkII with a (7K shutter count) for $ 250 AUD and will try ML ASAP.
how many money it was?
Please talk about sony nex vg 900. Is it still relevant today as a fullframe camcorder?? If yes then it would be perfect for me for its size and money😊😊
The thing about ML RAW is that, while the quality (especially the colours) is beautiful (minus the aliasing), the workflow is a PITA and the file sizes are huge.
Angel Angelov the workflow is easy now with MLV App. It literally does everything for you and you can transcode to smaller file size.
Oh yeah the mark 2 and the 3 are awesome cameras...I own th mark 3 and i love it its a great camera for new comers and experience film makers 👌🏼
Great video. Lots of good info. Love your video lights, but the white glob in the background is quite distracting.
Such a rad video Armando! Crazy to see old tech with new software perform so well. Wish the same developers could go work at Adobe and help them speed up their software lol. Thanks for sharing bro!
Do you think if I got the 5D Mark III I would get a even better performance?
Yes
it 100 does, you can shoot 3.2k raw at 24fps and it looks good
@@nicholasboule5134 do you know how manny minutes of 3.2k raw can you get?
@@merodack3721 it depends on the media card you use
imagine a7iii unlocked with 6k raw @24 fps or 4k raw with 120fps .... dayyuuummm
The camera would probably melt ha ha
The quality of the images coming out of the 5D Mark II is great by all means even in 2020 but I had ML installed on a 5D mk 3 and I wasn't very pleased. The results are good but when it works. Even with the fastest cf card i could find it would still drop frames or freeze after a short time and I couldn't use the resolution I wanted because it showed me the card speed is not fast enough. Too many bugs in my oppinion and unreliable for real work.
were you able to change it back to the original canon
firmware?
@@jrc1156 Oh yes, uninstalling is very simple no problem
@@sebastianbalog thanks man.. planning to venture into full frame soon and 5d mark ii with ML is one of the options..
Wow! Very nice!