Magic Lantern - Pros and Cons!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- So Magic Lantern is pretty cool, but it has it's issues as well. In this video I discuss the good and bad of this little hack.
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"3. Can Break Camera." Nope, stopped me right there. Thanks for the video.
hes talking absolute nonsense, its like one in a million risk and you can get it working even if u did. hes just trying to fill his video
@@MoroccanAnwar even the creator of magic lantern said it has a chance to break your cam
Can brick the camera*
thats almost impossible
same. No guy for me.
i have been using magic lantern since 2013 and now i cant leave without it. its a great software.
any freezes shooting RAW full res on the 5dmk2???
Thanks for the quick videos! Informative and directly-to-the-point videos are getting harder and harder to find on RUclips. So this video was appreciated!
been using magic lantern just as soon as I bought my 6d and 60d 5 years ago. It never broke them. :)
and? updating the video for AVC codec? it's only possible with 2k or 4k or 3k but not FullHD..
Like your videos, do keep up the good work. On Magic Lantern, it is an interesting tool and whilst I've never had it go belly up on me, I play with it exclusively on an old 50D, just in case. To be honest as it sits on top of the cameras standard firmware not, as you point replacing it, I'm not too sure how such temporary software could 'brick' the hardware unless by using something like RAW video, you made the camera overheat.
Because I'm old, I can remember the early days of personal computing when the O/S was loaded from a floppy drive because machines didn't have hard drives just a couple of floppy (removable), drives, that could go wrong too but it never hit the firmware inside the 'box', you just did a hard reboot and started again.
My understanding is to brick your camera because of Magic lantern, you must improperly pull out your memory card while it's still accessing it. So I've just slowed down removing the card each time, and no problems yet. Love this tool! Good video, thanks.
Just installed ML on a 5 year old 70D I’ve bought used and it worked fine!
Even the rollback to a later Firmware was as easy as it gets (just make a standard Firmware „update“ with a older version).
You are talking of "installing ML on the camera", but if the camera just reads from the CF-card on start its more installing the software on the CF-card, not on the camera. If you release the CF-card with ML the camera also looses ML, so its not installed on camera but on the card only. This also means you have to install it on all you memory cards you intend to use with the camera - just to make things clear.
its not install, just a copy paste of all ML file
Im not sure about other canon cameras, but magic lantern does wonders for the EOS M (aka one of the worst received canon cameras ever), with magic lantern you can...
Shoot up to 2.5k raw
Have dual ISO (making the cameras dynamyc range up to 14 stops)
Change the shutter speed and frame rate with much more control
Shoot at 14bit
and you can add cinestyle to it leaving you with a nice flat raw file for you to manipulate all you want
In other words, turn your 100$ mirrorless camera from 8 years ago to a cinema camera, for free!!
3:25 "Be extra careful using ML..." What can I do (or not do) to minimize my risk of 'bricking' my T3i? I have used it before with good luck.
its very easy. you just paste EVERY file (don't miss any one). the autoexec.bin, ML file, and the .fir. If u brick it then its not my fault.
@@jkodnt LMFAO
A tutorial on how to use the interval-o-meter would be very helpful!
Activate the intervalometer. Press Q to adjust the time interval, how many shots etc.
CON: the 5D MK III has two card slots so no need to remove the card with magic lantern on one card
Can you please re-visit this with a video in the end of 2020
So how is this a con?this is a pro,
IMO the real problem of ML is not bricking the camera, because that really is extremely unlikely, when following the step by step process. The real problem, at least in my experience, is that ML is not reliable. I had it installed on my 700D for a while, and the experience wasn't completely satisfactory. It would crash sometimes for no apparent reason, so i avoided using it on real jobs. You don't want your camera crashing in the middle of an interview. I'm willing to try it in my 5D M3 though, and if ML runs smoothly on it, i will be a very happy guy
Video just popped again in my recommendations lol.
Do you have an updated firmware? I recall installing ML with an older firmware of my 700D, after installing it kept on showing errors like cannot read card, display goes black after turning on, crashes.
Right after that I just erased and reset my cam and SD Card that had ML in it, then updated it to newer firmware, installed ML again and works fine as usual. Been using it for a year now, no errors whatsoever.
@@jakelawrenceespinosa thanks for the tip. Right now I don't even need ML in my 700d. I used it a little bit in my 5DMiii with no issues
I don't think I want to "Brick" my new 80D. Thank you for the info!
There's no ML for the 80D, anyway.
Funnily enough i have a 550d, 60d and a c200 mark 2 so it did make me chuckle when you mocked the c100 whilst putting over the 550d. I am thinking of trying magic lantern on my 550d as its my cheapest camera.
Sorry, but your camera is using 1.2.3 firmware, which is not recommended by ML due it's it major differences to 1.1.3. - 1.1.3 is much more stable and gives you real time zebras.
very good my friend,nobody talks about the memory card problem,but it is a very big one
I was about to install magic lantern but after last cons =, I changed my mind...Thanks
Noah Body if it can ruin my cam then I don’t feel like using it, that’s what I was saying...
OMGosh, I want magic Lantern really bad but I just got my 80D literally yesterday and if I break this camera trying to install that I will be sooo hurt :( now I am too afraid to install.
Juss Jazzy they don't have it for 80d...even the 70d has beta version
RoGer's Vision so glad I didn't even attempt LOL thanks
@@JuzzJazzy You can't break the camera...
"Break The Camera?"
How Do You Break A Camera Via A Software, You Dumbasses 🙄
@@MusaDays808 - not break..brick
About to download... until you said it may break your camera. Changed my mind there.
+ CONS: compatibilty: you get partial support or beta version for some camera models, plus very different available features for different cameras.
I almost bricked my 5D2 too, just so lucky I got it back in working order
How did you almost brick it? What was the error that almost caused it.
Trying to make sure I follow every step diligently.
My 60D freezes when I put a card without a SD card. So I got to remove the battery, the lens and reset it.
I have a 60d... is this a warning to not try it? lol
When I installed Magic Lantern on my camera did I notice that my rebel t3 gets hotter than before? It is normal? Can you end up damaging the camera due to this overheating?
Excellent videos. Keep up the good work!
I wanna record movie reactions and I don't wanna have to start the recording every 30 minutes. I want it to just keep recording... or at least increase the recording time. Can Magic Lantern help me do that and are there alternative solutions to reach my goal? Thank you. Btw my camera is canon g7x mark ii
Can i be able to do with it Autofocus To my video? And the second question What's really is the chance For breaking the camera Is it five or 10%?
installed on my 600D, no problems, and i only needed the function to take timelapse..
3:05 wish you elaborated on this a little bit more. How does the camera break? What kind of issues (overheating?).
its brick not break
I had it on a canon 500d for a while, didn't particularly like it took it off, I've never use it on my old faithful's Canon 50d & Canon 5d mk4, & never will, personal choice.
Very helpful and great video.
Thank you!
Who closed the video down after 3:01?
note: e.g. 550d shoots RAW "internally" without having anything other than the stock canon firmware installed.
whoopsy....the youtube said 'RAW video internally'
....my mistake: i doubt 550d does that with oem firmware.
Thanks for the educative video. I was wondering why some features don't work on my Canon 800D and someone asked me to install Magic Lantern and try.
Is this safe for this camera model?
I wanna ask you. I have to use exactly KomputerBay card to recording more than 7 seconds? Or can I use any other CF card? thanks in advance for your reply (my camera Canon 5D Mark iii)
So helpful! Thanks dude!!
"...the potential to brick your camera..." That already told me enough. Thanks, but no thanks. Not even remotely willing to take that risk.
I kinda agree, but it’s bricked out of the box because video quality sucks lol... Without it, sits on a desk and never gets used, just like a brick.
What would cause bricking though if a lot of people aren't getting bricked? Surely it's something specific. Especially if it's favored on older cameras like the 550 and 600D
Stay off the road. Someone may crash into you. Do it right and you won't have an issue
What are the scenarios that might break our camera ?
3:08 May I ask what is " brick the camera
" ?? Thanks!
it means breaking your camera's software preventing it from functioning
Audacious Scoundrel could u please elaborate, I am a nervous canon owner but highly anticipating ML
I've been using magic lantern for almost two years now and nothing has happened yet. I've read the only way to brick your camera, is by pulling out the sd card while your camera is turned on. However there have been instances where I had to remove the battery, because my cam froze for some reason. Didn't do anything really. (2-3 times) I've used it in very cold and very warm weather conditions.
In layman's terms.. your camera is as good as a brick. Good to use as a paper weight.
Is compitable with 6d mark 2
It is?
Yeah I would keep it to older backup cameras and not your main ones if you can.
I tried it. Not worth it at all to me. It's just my own opinion based on my experience with it. I like my camera the way it is.
Shame Canon stop giving you the firmware that you need for older cameras. I'm trying to install it on a 6D but can't get the older firmware that I need to run it.
I've got a 600D but don't see the RAW video option anywhere. Help?
Hi,, I have a Canon eos 7D and I installed Magic Lantern. Do you know how to set it where it records for an hour straight without it stopping please ?
You have to download the Magic Lanter Lua build, not the nightly build! I had to screw with this problem for HOURS until I figured that out. Once you download the Lua build, there's a setting that's available in ML that's not there on the nightly build to disable the 30 minute time limit!
FadedKamui i just installed Magic Lantern and I saw your comment 🤦🏻♀️
Do you know how can I undo the Magic lantern ?
install Magic Lanter Lua Build? Do you have the link?
Bless 🙌
@@gorgetteadelaide7058 ML is "installed" on your SD card, so format the SD card and remove ML if it asks you to. Then just install the Lua Build. Link here:
builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html
Scroll down until you see the Lua build for your particular model Canon.
Yo, hopefully you see this comment 🤞🏽i have a canon 7d as well and i’ve been trying to install ML on it but it it starts acting up and goes to a black screen.
i use a cf adaptor so i am essentially using an sd card.
i once came across a comment that stated how the sd card should be “sd hc” & not “sd xc” is this true?
can’t find any info on this anywhere 😅
hai,I am from india. I have a canon T3i,which firmware version is 1.0.2.what is the latest version available.thnx
Is this still maintained? Does it improve automatic modes from the camera?
Why not elaborate a bit on the “you can break your camera “ thing? Like tell us beware don’t do this ect
Thank you :-).
I wish a professional photographer would list the things Magic Lantern adds to a pro workflow that a stock 5D2 doesn’t. WITHOUT mentioning video for 45 minutes.
Been using ML in my 60D for ages, never had any problem. That is 1/100000 chance you brick your camera.
will magic lantern brick a refurbished 700d?
Whats bricking the camera do you mean break?
Bricking's a term used to describe electronic devices that are rendered useless - equating its usefulness to that of a brick, usually after some bad software causes it to stop working completely.
@@zy_cheng oh thanks so i can kill someone with it 😏
if canon did not put raw recording then camera should not do it.it exceed what card can write or use too much power
At least until recently, Canon always was too conservative regarding the features of their cameras, even when the hardware can handle more. That ensures reliability, and also ensures they don't cannibalize other Canon products. But in the case of raw recording, Magic Lantern developers say that they take advantage of the raw video signal already present, and they claim that saving this raw data consumes less power compared to the processor-intensive encoding to H264. Yes, bigger streams of data must be saved in the card, but again they claim that both the camera and the card can perfectly handle this.
Not saying Magic Lantern is perfect, just saying that things are not so simple as you may think
Greaqt summary!
Will magic Lantern give you the shutter count on a T4i?
how to install for t6?
same
Magic lantern works on canon 77D???
2:03 support for every model and raw. nothing else is important. then magic lantern would worth money. its all i want know. would my camera shoot raw and not IPB lol
Can i install ML on 6D mark ii ?
Are you Kai's brother?
I thought the exact same thing.
I have a 60D I need help to install the magic lantern Can someone help me
It's about as simple as reading the instructions. Check here for details.
wiki.magiclantern.fm/install
how does installing magic lantern break the camera? How does software break a hardware? Pl. elaborate and thanks that was very useful.
Magic Lantern gives you more than the camera can do, so the software can worn out some hardware by making it work more or in a different way it should..
actually, the software runs hardware and when any software pushes hardware beyond its limit that hardware can't handle, it can be very harmful to hardware like IC short circuit etc.
was googling it jus now .. got it.. thanks anyways.. :)
Brick not Break
Brick, not break.
Does anyone know if it has a double exposure feature?
Why would you need a double exposure feature on a digital camera? Just use Photoshop (or tool of choice) for that task and you have much more freedom!
What if you got 2 memory card slots. CF and SD. Put the ML on a crappy SD card, save video on expensive CF card with speed to mach? Doable?
that is a very good question, no clear answer makes me nervous about this "Freeware"
Yes that's how it works ... I even formatted my SD card by error and it stll remained on the. card ... have been using it for 3 years with no issues ... as he said, turns it into a beast !
@@marcellalonde2793 What camera was that?
@@ZeroG84 Canon 5D Mk III
Could you please send me a link or any information of people breaking their cameras with Magic Lantern, you seem to know or are you just telling lies, love to hear from you
crickets...
Magic
how much camera would cost if they stop inventing new gimmick and removing other thing. than just give fstopshutterspeed iso and light level.that what photograpoher need ON main screen. not filled small icons for everything LOL they can easy access from quick menu.
all gimick stuff can get from post.just let me shoot flat image and huge text on screen with 3 parameter photographer need know.
i not need know do i have flah!am i shoot single!do i have auto focus! i allready know them LOL
can i have Magic Lantern on my 7D?
just dont... I just killed my 7D because of ML...
Exart TV what happened?
Ill gonna use it anyways😂
Where did you find the intro music from? Also have you had any problems with the 550d and ML?
I've be using ML in my 550D for many years now and had no problem so far. The 550D (T2i) and the 5D are supposed to be the best cameras for it. I love having histogram and audio levels on screen during movie recording.
yyyaaaaaa nah I am not risking it.
bricks and stones may break my canon
thump up
can you really brick a camera using magic lantern??
Yep... My 7D is dead bricked at this moment because of ML
@@iamlennox1927 well, that certainly helped me make up my mind about this.
@@iamlennox1927 did you fix this? How did it brick?
@@iamlennox1927 damn i was planning on doing it on my 7d, its my only camera so nah thanks
Would you still recommend ML in 2020? I would like to install it on a 5D iii
I would like to know this answer too. I have a 5DMk3 as well
You can NOT breake your camera with ML , just follow the instruction and dont force in to cameras that cant be use ML.
If u format ure mcard will u loose d magic lantern
since it's installed in the sd card, I'm guessing yes.
Time to move to the dark-side. Sony has all those features already. :)
James Hunsucker yeah,in a crappy body with crappy specs
Abdur-rahman Moustapha that burn sent Sony back to making Walkman holy shit
I own a few Canon cameras myself. But there's a reason Sony in just a few years has become #2 in the camera market. Virtually everything Magic Lantern (for free) offers is standard in the Sony's. Plus Sony has apps to download like time-lapse. My Zeiss 55mm and 90mm G macro are considered far Superior than any glass Canon or Nikon has. So laugh away... as Canon and Nikon try to catch up to Sony, in a market that is being taken over by cell-phones.
can sony shoot raw internally? wow time to leave magic lantern if sony can shoot raw internally
In terms of features I'd say Canon is definitely holding back. Sony cameras come standard with more features that really should be in a camera of this day and age to begin with - those that Canon most definitely intentionally left out. Sony aside, I think Panasonic is doing a great job with their Lumix GH5, internal 10-bit 422.
HANDWAVING DOESNT HELP US! ITS SILLY SIR!
i will never install this program. i luv my camera homie lmao
No thanks
To brick a camera is not possible. Absolute nonsense. Start to read and learn the concept more before you spread such trash rumors.
The concept is that you move a switch that canon did implement for developers. If something does not work you just close the switch and nothing happens. Time to close and delete this video.
no.
@Noah Body The reason is that they don't want to be the one's held responsible if a complete idiot does something that ruins their camera and then tries to blame ML for it; it's legalese because they're not idiots like the people who "brick" their cameras.
Mans overreacting to a guy just repeating what the developers said 💀.
If you have knowledge, skill, you can make videos with Canon without Magic Lantern. I make videos with 60D and 70D and the best results were obtained without ML. The point is to know your equipment and your lenses. But nothing against. For me it really is not worth it.
MARINGÁ VIDEO you don't know what magic lantern is ..
What are you even talking about, not worth it... It's free.
Helgen X he meant worth the risk of fucking up your camera and not being able to take it back because using it would end your warranty
how can you shoot raw video without magic lantern? with all the knowledge in the world you cant do that, lol
@@hanabaric5509 amen