Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D Remake is a Wake-Up Call

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  • Опубликовано: 13 дек 2024

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  • @Kelvryn
    @Kelvryn 2 месяца назад +92

    Blame America for any censorship crap

    • @jesseritchie9282
      @jesseritchie9282 2 месяца назад +8

      I am not for it as an American

    • @rickysantana2136
      @rickysantana2136 2 месяца назад +4

      Dude USA censore all even Yugi Cards HAHAH.

    • @travisgeorge1553
      @travisgeorge1553 2 месяца назад

      America, Canada, England, Norway, France,Germany.
      Those are the ones, I know for certain, that are making these agenda pushes.
      China is involved, of course, though, I don't think they are part of the Western Government Cult.Still, they did inspire those fools.

    • @Ehomba1
      @Ehomba1 2 месяца назад

      Why? Lol it's not Americans censoring it it's japanese businessmen making those decisions lol yall will blame anything other than the actual culprit: money.

    • @steaksmash33
      @steaksmash33 2 месяца назад

      Isnt this japanese

  • @Kaztrofy
    @Kaztrofy 2 месяца назад +46

    Remember when director's cut was a thing? Now we get censored cut, what an f-in era we live in.

    • @Dregomz02
      @Dregomz02 2 месяца назад +5

      Absolute worst era, world really ended in 2012 and we entered a different timeline, and much darker one.

    • @steaksmash33
      @steaksmash33 Месяц назад

      @@Dregomz02 "a different timeline, a much darker one" 🤣🤣 the world is so cold and dark now lmao

    • @-raist
      @-raist 23 дня назад

      @@Kaztrofy Must have not played the original dragon warrior or final fantasy on the nes.....

  • @braydenb1581
    @braydenb1581 2 месяца назад +20

    I miss the 90s. Diverse and inclusive but not to pat ourselves on the back about it

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  2 месяца назад +7

      That’s what I hope we can get back to without overcorrecting in the other direction

    • @braydenb1581
      @braydenb1581 2 месяца назад +1

      @@GingerPrimeGaming me too. Im guilty of it. I used to get beat up in the 90s for being pals with the gay kid. But even this type 1 and 2 stuff over the years got me starting to over correct. Thankfully i started to see gay people against it and realized its not "them" doing this. Hard concept to sum up in a youtubr comment. I just want to go back to the 90s where we had duversity but wete religious about it

    • @zolmation
      @zolmation 2 месяца назад

      the 90's were not inclusive. We got called f-slurs every day by full grown adults.

    • @BigCowProductions
      @BigCowProductions 2 месяца назад +1

      @@GingerPrimeGaming same. Diegetic inclusivity with allowance for storytellers to make the stories they want and allow different cultures and not trying to homogenize everything to 2024 LA.

    • @steaksmash33
      @steaksmash33 2 месяца назад

      ​@@braydenb1581I find it ironic being a homophobe but loves the most whimsical RPG

  • @phanum0181
    @phanum0181 29 дней назад +4

    I’m buying it 2nd hand down the line; I’m not letting the studio get my support on this 😊

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  29 дней назад

      Have you seen the “bug” that the game still says you can’t equip gear for woman or visa versa

  • @Spartan1312
    @Spartan1312 2 месяца назад +27

    Sanitizing and Purifying for the sake of Censorship is something I would have expected out of the Religions Right back in the 90s (remember the Harry Potter BS). This is a puritanical movement that MUST be opposed at all costs, even if it destroys the industry in the process this can NOT be allowed to be normalized. If this becomes normalized this WILL just get even worse.

    • @daniellion5291
      @daniellion5291 2 месяца назад +3

      This is your crusade? I am sorry for you.

    • @Spartan1312
      @Spartan1312 2 месяца назад +8

      @@daniellion5291 Save your pity for someone who cares? Maybe the soon to be unemployed devs, they need someone on their side lmao.

    • @Ehomba1
      @Ehomba1 2 месяца назад +1

      Omg its not even censorship you bunch of lazy thinkers. Japanese businessmen changing a product bc they think the changes will sell better in a different region isnt censorship.

    • @Spartan1312
      @Spartan1312 2 месяца назад +4

      @@Ehomba1 The devs themselves refute your argument. So much so they took down the interview and "claim" it was a mistranslation from their own translators lmao. Cope and Seethe more please, this is entertaining.

    • @Ehomba1
      @Ehomba1 2 месяца назад +1

      @Spartan1312 its not censorship when a business changes a product bc they think it'll sell better if they change it for different audiences. And yall, very purposely, don't go over the sum total of "censorship" bc if you break it down point by point it's completely innocuous and obvious that yall are weirdos throwing a lil baby hissy fit.

  • @Xcalibur_54
    @Xcalibur_54 Месяц назад +13

    It's a sprite and hit box, bro. Nobody cares what it's called once you've made your character and have given her/him whatever name you want.

    • @supersaiyaman11589
      @supersaiyaman11589 Месяц назад

      @@Xcalibur_54 I agree some people are overreacting and I hope those people are not the majority of the people that would buy the remake.

    • @TheBigTuna12
      @TheBigTuna12 17 дней назад

      It's the art within the game. People don't have the right to come in, retroactively, to someone else's work and make undue changes. Even games like Factorio have art.

    • @supersaiyaman11589
      @supersaiyaman11589 16 дней назад

      @@TheBigTuna12 i bought the license for the game and am enjoying the hell out of it as a matter of fact i think dragon quest 3 is a very well done remake. look at the sales numbers this game is doing very well so their cant be that many people that dislike the game.

  • @Atreyeu
    @Atreyeu 27 дней назад +1

    And yet highest concurrent players for any square Enix single player game lololol

  • @PowerGlitch
    @PowerGlitch Месяц назад +1

    Not a new phenomenon, the promotional material was also censored back when the game rereleased on the gbc

  • @Rueian
    @Rueian 2 месяца назад +8

    Dragon quest 3 is still to this day my favorite Dragon quest game. I played it before Final Fantasy, and it was only my 2nd RPG to Megami Tensei (Released as Revelations on Gameboy)
    I'm struggling with if I want to buy the game or not as I've been waiting for this for so long.
    I'm sick of games getting preachy, we used to have so many great propaganda style games that weren't so in your face preachy, the stories were rich and are still beloved. Metal Gear, Final Fantasy 7 being the 2 big ones that people like to point out when people incorrectly state we dont want politics in games. No we do want politics we want divisiveness, we want conflict, those are what make games good. But we need them well thought out, we need the stories and the game play to be the focus of the game and not the agenda or shoving a message down peoples throats or trying to score minuscule brownie points with virtue signaling, that just makes the game shallow as we've seen time and time again in all entertainment. Whatever is done, should have purpose to enhance the game experience. Thats not even covering the needless censorship.
    I can relate to the desire for a family, but i'm feeling like its too late in many aspects of my life, too much to fix, too little time.

    • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
      @ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 месяца назад

      If you're a fan of classic Dragon Quest games, this is something you should get. Don't let the politics surrounding the games get to you and you should treat the next few years as Yuji Horii's victory lap for Dragon Quest.

    • @dustbin5044
      @dustbin5044 20 дней назад

      I can't afford kids, I can't afford a wife, I can't even afford a girlfriend. Once you black pill it's not so bad.

  • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
    @ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 месяца назад +7

    0:20 I don't see Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D Remake as a conflict between the left and the right. Those who are fighting about the censorship and editing of Toriyama's work post mortem are mostly pushing lies to further their own agenda. Until Toyotarou says something about this, Bird Studio and by extension Toriyama, they have accepted it. Instead, I see this is the traditionalists who want a return to the turn based JRPGs of the old days of Square and the modernists who back the action RPG Final Fantasy that has come since the rebuilding of Final Fantasy XIV. Japan is already heavily backing this remake like they did with Dragon Quest Walk and Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince whereas they didn't support Dragon Quest Champions or Dragon Quest Treasures. The success of Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D Remake will cement the fact that the audience was always there and rather it was that Square Enix that changed and abandoned their core audience. The question is whether they will accept this or attempt to make some kind of excuse about how exclusivity is the problem again.
    3:15 Like I said, Japan is backing this game and they're the fans, not the westerners. It's the people who are invested into the culture war that are the problem. Much of the problem with Square Enix's internal review board that has sprouted up since CERO drastically shifted back in 2016. They've effectively become a secondary marketing team that's reviewing and making significant changes to all titles. What baffles me the most is this attempt to push Dragon Quest to be an E for Everyone game. But at the end of the day, Japan simply just doesn't care about this and they are the primary market. It's the western media who are always pushing absolutism and looking for something to fight and be angry about that are pushing this narrative. And if you want inclusion, this erasure of a lot of certain Mr Popo stereotypes Toriyama was known for and transformation into stuff like Hit should still be treated as a step forward.
    6:15 This is also why this game is going to sell well despite how much the west wants it to fail. This is a turn based Dragon Quest remake and it's what Japan wants and this game selling well will be a message to Square Enix that this is what Japan wants. Dragon Quest is primarily a game for Japan and they don't care about any of this culture war. They care more about the fact that it's a remake of the first true Dragon Quest game. They're probably disappointed that it wasn't a remake of 5, but it also kind of makes sense why they chose 3 for their first one since it was the one with the earliest definitive features of the Dragon Quest franchise. And at the end of the day, it's what they want. What people out here in the rest of the world don't really matter because of how small of the market we are. They could just flat out cancel their international release and it might actually save them money in the long run.
    7:00 This feels very much like the west trying to impose their own ideas and expectations to Japan. It's fine that the game isn't for everyone and that the main audience is Japanese. There shouldn't be any expectations to globalize. Black Myth: Wukong is very much a game for the Chinese who are already familiar with the story of Journey to the West and it just happened to gain western appeal as well. This should be the case for Dragon Quest and they shouldn't be making major changes to try to push it in the west. Doing so would likely make it no longer Dragon Quest, much like how the main Final Fantasy games are treated like spin offs in Japan nowadays.

    • @jesseritchie9282
      @jesseritchie9282 2 месяца назад +2

      Japan is trying to make sure their products aren't always bastardized. One of the creators of DQ literally despises censorship, and funny enough this modern censorship is not like the old censorship where people were upset about the way some characters looked. This happens to a lot of their products like YuGiOh, and much more. This modern censorship uses the "this is not how a woman should be represented". It's in a sense something that's always been there, but it's settled on a different perceptive

    • @sirirond1990
      @sirirond1990 2 месяца назад

      Please don't include the whole west with the crazy people of the USA lmao, we on Latin America don't care about all that, we just want good products that are fun

    • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
      @ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 месяца назад +1

      @@jesseritchie9282 Yep and that's why Japan actually has very little skin in this game regarding censorship. As much as they dislike it in the interview, it's not eliciting any significant response from them. It doesn't seem like it's something they're actually concerned about. Instead, this is something they've learned to work with and accepted. This is basically the bar they've set as acceptable for the developers, the publishers, and the consumers.
      It's the west that's blowing this out of proportion and dragging the late Akira Toriyama into this to try to prove their point that makes this all the more horrible. He doesn't deserve this. At this point, I just want Yuji Horii and Tetsuya Nomura to end their careers on a high note and not end up like Yoshinori Kitase or be treated like Hajime Tabata. Tabata deserved so much more, but holy crap did Naoki Yoshida treat him like garbage.

  • @JGKingCrusher
    @JGKingCrusher 2 месяца назад +11

    I'll just simply make a statement with my wallet. I will not be buying this game as a statement.

  • @EPS5000
    @EPS5000 20 дней назад +1

    Gender wasn’t removed from the game, the only difference is when you’re selecting your character. Once you choose A or B, everything else in the game is gendered. You’re still called a he or she, a son or daughter, and gendered weapons and personalities still exist. Chill out and buy the game, it has genders.

  • @drTrips
    @drTrips 27 дней назад +1

    Playing DQ 11 on switch. So wholesome, sad they did this to this one :/

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  26 дней назад

      I’ve been seeing images where the rest of the game still says man or woman but it was only the appearance selection that changed?

  • @xAshe10x
    @xAshe10x 2 месяца назад

    Love the content as always congratz on the kids, for Physical I recommend fasting, I have kept the weight off for over a year now! was over 200 lb before I started, now at 160

  • @blueslime1980
    @blueslime1980 2 месяца назад +12

    Anybody passing on this amazing classic game because the female warrior has a tiny shirt & shorts is missing out. Your loss folks!

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  2 месяца назад +5

      It is a classic and the creators should be free to make they game they want and not have to bow down to tourists who don’t even play their games

    • @blueslime1980
      @blueslime1980 2 месяца назад

      @@GingerPrimeGaming Boo hoo. Cry some more. One character has a tiny skin toned shirt & shorts now. OMG! What will you do? LMAO! Your loss.

    • @liquidmetalslime9
      @liquidmetalslime9 Месяц назад +1

      While creators should be free to do that, this particular issue with the female warrior was Square's own doing as they lowered the age rating to E in an attempt to get more sales.
      Speaking of tourist, I feel like the loudest voices screaming over this minor changes are the true tourist. I don't know of a single DQ game since the series moved into 3d in which the female warrior in game model matched the original 1988 promotional art where the character's bare bottom and pelvis indent os exposed. They have used this model specifically in many DQ games and spin offs snd its always been changed slightly to cover up more ..
      Why the outrage now i wonder.

    • @blueslime1980
      @blueslime1980 Месяц назад +1

      @@liquidmetalslime9 bro, these people are obsessed w/ a tiny skin toned shirt & shorts... think about that. LOL! Can't wait for Nov. 14th

  • @supersaiyaman11589
    @supersaiyaman11589 Месяц назад +1

    if all that is censored is adding some cloths to a character that is not a big deal to me. is the story the same if yes that is great are the battles the same these are the things that matter to me especially with dragon quest games. adding some cloths to a character or body type A and body type B does not set me off at all. does it make sense to do body type A and body type B no will i buy the game yes and i preordered the game a month ago on steam other games have done body type A and body type B with no backlash why are some people making it out too be a big deal. i want the game to succeed in the west so we get more dragon quest remakes.

    • @DontKnowDontCare6.9
      @DontKnowDontCare6.9 Месяц назад

      My problem with the game is the ones who censored it are the same pieces of $#!+ who shat on Toriyama upon his death.
      And Squeenix lacked the insight to make any statement about it.

  • @labmonkeyplays6665
    @labmonkeyplays6665 27 дней назад

    I really feel sorry for the developers, and I love JRPG's and the recent resurgence makes me feel like a kid in a candy store... that being said, I want to buy this game out of support for the developers and because it just feels like a classic. I just burned through Metaphor: Refantazio, and currently playing Romancing Saga 2, so I really really want this game and I dont want to sit around waiting for a directors cut 😕

  • @Luan-pk1oo
    @Luan-pk1oo 2 месяца назад +22

    Oh... you are one of those.

  • @GeorgeZimmermen
    @GeorgeZimmermen 2 месяца назад +9

    So bummed. I really wanted to get this game. But I can’t support censorship

  • @sferris33
    @sferris33 29 дней назад +1

    The game looks good. But I ended up canceling my preorder because of denuvo and its EULA. Denuvo will eventually be removed. However the EULA will make the game like a rental (where they can yank the game out of my library). Thus I will wait til it’s about $10.

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  28 дней назад +1

      Yeah, I'm waiting until the game goes on discount or I get it via some kinda key they give out to content creators at different times.

  • @xdcksgmd37
    @xdcksgmd37 28 дней назад +1

    I disagreed with Hogwarts Legacy boycott, and I disagree with this boycott. If you like the IP just play the damn game.

  • @altima22689
    @altima22689 2 месяца назад +11

    I've tried so hard to have good faith with these people, but they're so unhinged. I've been in the DA: VG discussion board, and have been trying to have good faith discussions, but they're so damn hostile even when you're being polite and agreeing with them on some things.

  • @-solidsnake-
    @-solidsnake- 2 месяца назад +11

    Not really a big deal but whatever

    • @omensoffate
      @omensoffate 2 месяца назад +4

      It is a big deal.

    • @zolmation
      @zolmation 2 месяца назад +8

      @@omensoffate it's not. these kind of things explode in right-wind conservative circles due to fear-mongering. But compare the topics of today with the tops when we were kids. People are friendlier, more accepting of people. I mean kids movies used to have soft-core porn scenes in them and now our biggest complaints are that boy and girl say body type 1 and body type 2. If thats such a big problem to some people then they need to get some perspective.

    • @trenthoward6800
      @trenthoward6800 2 месяца назад +3

      Your kind always uses this cope as a retort and it never works, get a new script.

    • @-solidsnake-
      @-solidsnake- 2 месяца назад +2

      @@trenthoward6800 u mad?

    • @trenthoward6800
      @trenthoward6800 2 месяца назад

      @@-solidsnake- Lmao you had hours to reply and the best you can string together is a stock sentence fragment? Yeah, I can tell why you're fine with being told what to think.

  • @curtneedsaride
    @curtneedsaride Месяц назад +2

    I just wish we could include others and add more options without removing classic options and excluding those who appreciate the old fashioned settings. That would be inclusion.

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  Месяц назад +2

      That it would be, but at least right now, it's not really about diversity and inclusion, that's just the marketing, and in practice it just discriminates based on enteritic characterizes.

  • @lordmetallium9678
    @lordmetallium9678 2 месяца назад +11

    Answer is Sweet Baby Inc......

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  2 месяца назад

      Yes, sadly. Now it appears they’ve separated but that could just be a marketing move

    • @RemLasher77
      @RemLasher77 2 месяца назад

      They probably removed Square Enix from their clients list to hide the fact that they were responsible for the demanded changes to the remake.

    • @Ehomba1
      @Ehomba1 2 месяца назад

      ​@@RemLasher77god if wish I could make things up to be mad about. Unfortunately I don't have time bc I have actual real world problems.

    • @gardevoirtraunmagil3881
      @gardevoirtraunmagil3881 2 месяца назад +2

      sbi is no longer Partner of square enix. So you Sbi haters please stop badmouthing DQ3

    • @gardevoirtraunmagil3881
      @gardevoirtraunmagil3881 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@RemLasher77 were is the proof?

  • @TheLeadElite
    @TheLeadElite 27 дней назад +2

    And now that the game is out the half-donkeying of this censorship and DEI compliance is on full display.
    When you choose your main character’s “appearance” at the beginning of the game. It says “Do you want to play as the HERO with appearance A or the HEROINE with appearance B.”
    And if you try to equip female exclusive equipment to an “Appearance A” character, the game tells you “This equipment can only be equipped by WOMEN”.
    And that’s not even going into the countless number of times other gendered words like king and queen appear in the game. The game can’t even be consistent with itself.

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  26 дней назад +1

      I’ve seen those images and it actually gave me some hope, and at the same time can’t fathom why they made this one change outside of pandering to a certain group

    • @remtmy
      @remtmy 21 день назад

      @@TheLeadElite Proving that people throwing baby tandrum over nothing are just the toxic side of the medal here. Thanksfully the game is selling like hot cookies. True fans couldn't care less about these tiny irrelevant changes. They cared about supporting the franchise they love and they want Square to keep exporting it over the sea. Those that are boycotting the game for little piece of clothes that you will never even notice are fake fans to begin with and more eager to jump on the hate train than enjoying the game for what is.
      I'm just glad the game was a success and we can be sure that the following Erdrick trilogy following games are coming and hopefully they can remake the Zenithia Trilogy next!

  • @vampirorco
    @vampirorco 10 дней назад

    Pues yo no lo compré pero lo estoy jugando (no se si se me entiende). Mientras las desarrolladoras se dejen manipular por los supuestos "portadores de la verdad absoluta y de los verdaderos valores" no oleran un solo centimo de mi bolsillo.

  • @PaladinLarec
    @PaladinLarec 2 месяца назад +3

    I was going to buy it for PS5, but I canceled it and plan to buy it for PC so that a site like Based Mods can (and WILL) develop anti censorship mods to fix it back. They made mods that de-fatted Aloy from Horizon, and they fixed Lara Croft. So they will absolutely fix this too.

  • @sleepykitty4472
    @sleepykitty4472 Месяц назад +1

    Its so both genders can use the same gear its not fair to give 1 gender better gear. yall overracting. if you need to see women with less clothing,there are websites for that,if I want to wear a bikini in a game,doesnt effect you,you dont have to watch me playing .

  • @nickjunes
    @nickjunes 2 месяца назад +3

    Dragon quest the first one on Nintendo was my first rpg but I don’t remember being able to select male or female.

    • @PaladinLarec
      @PaladinLarec 2 месяца назад +5

      thats because you played as the male descendant of Loto. It wasn't until the 3rd game, which this game is a remaster of, that you could select gender.

    • @nickjunes
      @nickjunes 2 месяца назад +3

      @@PaladinLarec Oh ok thanks.

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  2 месяца назад

      Same for the second one too, but yes the 3rd is where this was an option.

  • @thecomputerman78
    @thecomputerman78 2 месяца назад +1

    Dragon Warrior I got that with Nintendo Power too I beat it 6 or 7 times

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  2 месяца назад

      Heck yes! I also still have my DQ4 copy too, I had to rent dq2 and dq3 as a kid so I never owned them until later on game boy and other platforms

  • @DontKnowDontCare6.9
    @DontKnowDontCare6.9 Месяц назад

    Why censor this game when theres already a rating system?

  • @edub83
    @edub83 2 месяца назад +2

    Spot on brother!

  • @Terrorbyte75
    @Terrorbyte75 2 месяца назад +1

    Honestly didnt expect how you ended this video. But that was kinda nice. I felt good after hearing that. Good stuff.

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  2 месяца назад

      There is a real issue going on and if there is anyway I can help people out through all this turbulence then I believe that’s what I should be doing. Glad you got something good from that last part

  • @Zirbip
    @Zirbip 2 месяца назад +1

    Six Kids! God Bless!
    And Dave Ramsey is amazing.

  • @themyriasphereorigins1707
    @themyriasphereorigins1707 2 месяца назад +9

    Companies need to stop hiring activities they ruin everything if they just hired people who just wanted to make good games like they used to

  • @Angelelol
    @Angelelol 2 месяца назад +3

    Excellent video, I wish that more people could have civil discussions about this issue. The problem is that you cannot engage with woke people without them screaming and hating since that is how they get their way. I hope that this madness ends soon.

    • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
      @ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 месяца назад +2

      Unfortunately, this is the result of outrage culture and it's not just the woke people. A lot of the people against the censorship have also been invoking Akira Toriyama's name despite the fact that he worked on this game alongside The Dark Prince and Dragon Quest XII before his passing. This won't end until Square Enix learns to ignore social media and focus on their core audience back in Japan.

  • @heathaltom8601
    @heathaltom8601 2 месяца назад +1

    Brian, I love diverse stories. Being whisked away on a journey about someone that I don't know sounds amazing. With that said...
    Most of the time it feels like lazy pandering. When done right its next level amazing, see Neir Automata. I thought it was about sexy robots, it in reality is about deep philosophy that touched me to the core.
    So in spite of all this nonsense, I bought bg3 for some friends and we're doing playthroughs of that and having a fantastic time while waiting for ff next patch.

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  2 месяца назад

      100% when it isn’t inauthentic it’s wonderful but this is a good highlight of unauthentic, when the creators don’t want it, the players don’t want it. Yet here we are

  • @Striker_AgingGamers
    @Striker_AgingGamers Месяц назад +5

    I can assure you.. my daughter doesn't care if if it's Type1/Type2 or Male/Female. Frankly, I don't care either. I don't get the outrage. It's weird.

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  Месяц назад +1

      Hope you enjoy the game

    • @titusgray4598
      @titusgray4598 21 день назад +1

      Weird adults with too much free time care.
      Game is terrific. Haters gon hate

  • @titusgray4598
    @titusgray4598 22 дня назад

    Counterpoint: the gender doesn’t actually matter in this game - they made a change but it doesn’t actually change anything.

  • @Azrakoth
    @Azrakoth 28 дней назад +1

    talk about crying over a non issue. you ppl are gonna freak if/when project 2025 brings true censorship into games.

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  27 дней назад

      If you want to minimize the grooming of children that's on you dude. This is the vote I have, so I'm going to use it, I'm sure I'll pick it up down the road.

  • @Theendgamelv3
    @Theendgamelv3 2 месяца назад +5

    Ok so the hysterical around the body type issue imo is silly in both directions. I don't think it needed to change, but it isn't a big deal either. No child is going to get confused over body types. They will see boy and girl. Body type isn't for them cause they won't care and choose whatever they want. I honestly don't think there was any complaints though, so why they did this, they most have been "one guy'd". This isn't on any group, just them silly cause they saw one guy on Twitter possibly saying something about choosing gender is bad.
    What I care about is stuff going on with the female warrior outfit change. SE made a dumb choice in lowering the age rating to E10 when the game should be teen. Censorship is dumb, but if your game originally was T eating, don't get surprised you have to cover up the more suggestive stuff to get a E10 rating. SE should have kept the T eating and a lot of the censorship goes away. Should a woman wearing bikini armor be marketed to a 10 year old?
    At the end of the day, a lot this is in SE being afraid of basically nothing and them deciding to market the game to a younger audience. The game director should be looking at SE more than at western audiences as it was SE who decided to target everyone and SE getting spooked by a handful of people saying gender choice is bad.

    • @omensoffate
      @omensoffate 2 месяца назад +1

      It is a big deal because it’s not an option. It’s forced.

    • @Theendgamelv3
      @Theendgamelv3 2 месяца назад +2

      @@omensoffate Body types in gaming have been a thing for a bit now. No one complained when Elden Ring did it. Barely any complaints when other games did it. No one put a gun to his head to make this remake. If he was so offended by body types, he could have stepped away in protest if body types were that bad.

    • @zolmation
      @zolmation 2 месяца назад +2

      I actually think the 10 rating is more appropriate. my friends and I all played this when we were younger than 10 when it came out on gameboy. The developers know their game and art style is child-friendly and will be played by kids just like it was at every other release it has had.

    • @Theendgamelv3
      @Theendgamelv3 2 месяца назад

      @@zolmation The original game is rated teen on the Switch store.

    • @zolmation
      @zolmation 2 месяца назад

      @@Theendgamelv3 correct.

  • @psycalibur4291
    @psycalibur4291 2 месяца назад +7

    Ain't no way y'all really mad about this. I love dragon quest. Always have. This will not change that for me. I don't care if the genders are replaced with types. Bro, I know what they mean. I'm intelligent enough to infer that. And the design alterations? Let's be real. The warrior was a naked woman with a plate armor bikini that did nothing for her. I love sexy women, but damn that fit was trash... And the priestess? Girl literally looked like Great Value Christian. I want fantasy religion in my fantasy game, not real world religion. While I value the original designs of Toriyama, these evolutions in design philosophy represent the way our society has evolved since this game first released. Some change is good and we shouldn't be afraid of that fact. Besides... it don't bother me. I'm a man who plays as male characters. I don't need some bitties to oggle in every second of gameplay.

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  2 месяца назад +4

      Hope you enjoy the game but unfortunately I’m going to have to sit this one out. There is a reason why video games have started to insert politics into games and the answer is all focused on kids. Thats where I draw the line because like you, if your an adult I don’t have any issue but kids need to be protected from bad ideas and confusion while they are still developing

    • @psycalibur4291
      @psycalibur4291 2 месяца назад +3

      @@GingerPrimeGaming Yeah, I mean, I've never really been bothered by things more "targeted towards kids" or whatever. Pokemon is something I still play and enjoy to this day (even though the recent titles blow chunks), so I don't mind a more childish approach to design. I'm sorry to hear that a couple design tweaks are enough to make you sit out a dragon quest game. I hope you'll change your mind because I'm sure you'd enjoy it if you played it, if you're a dragon quest superfan like I am, but I'll respect your decision regardless.

    • @WyomingJen
      @WyomingJen 2 месяца назад

      The amount of people that are mad at this is shocking to me. They've added more content and quality of life features that weren't present in the original which is a win in my book. They could add every single Dragon Quest remastered into this one game with all extra content and these same people would still not buy it due to the female having more clothes in a 2D game. The 16-bit anime tiddies are really that powerful.
      I guess they can watch the rest of us having fun from the sidelines. It's not going to affect my enjoyment.

  • @sulblazer
    @sulblazer 2 месяца назад +3

    The only thing I take issue with in Yuji's interview is that they blame the American market for it's ridiculousness. I was like...what? How's that our fault? Is it our fault Japanese companies have historically and repeatedly misread the American market and sensitivities? They act as if we're some kind of complex puzzle that's difficult to solve...but we're not!!! We're simple AF! Make good games, do as little censoring as possible while staying true to the original creator's vision and keep ideological agendas out of it (unless of course it's someone tied to the narrative and plot). We didn't tell them to hire consulting firms like SBI to try to unravel the Western sensibilities. How's that our fault? They've misread the American market and then doubled down and hired SBI to further jack them along. That's on them, not us. Acting like we're complicated gamers in America....please.

    • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
      @ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 месяца назад +3

      I suggest you take a look at how the media and content creators have talked about Final Fantasy XVI. There's no misreading. The US gets disproportionately butt hurt about depictions of religion and sexuality compared to other countries. Even consumption of alcohol and tobacco is very inconsistent enforced. XVI also had fans of the new era of games openly criticize the fans of the older games and tell them that they weren't welcome anymore.
      You may not have told them to hire consulting firms like SBI, but you're part of the outrage culture that makes companies like SBI a necessity. That's why Square Enix was using Nintendo in the 1990s and Sony until they started working with Pole to Win. They've been using those companies since then

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  2 месяца назад

      It’s that power that they bully these devs to fall in line. And being that gamers were buying it (but now aren’t) that only confirmed the message that they where getting from the media

    • @trenthoward6800
      @trenthoward6800 2 месяца назад

      The man saying that was Kazuhiko Torishima, not Yuji Horii.

  • @shayoko6
    @shayoko6 2 месяца назад +3

    9:08 you completely lost me going past this point. rambling about ? would have been better to just not. and end it here.

  • @deyon100
    @deyon100 Месяц назад +1

    First person in turn-based JRPGs is the true crime.

  • @steaksmash33
    @steaksmash33 2 месяца назад +2

    Cucumbers with spears and chickens with swords was normal. But type a and type b has taken it too far

  • @RikoRik33
    @RikoRik33 2 месяца назад +36

    I can't buy it out of respect for the original vision and Akira Toriyama's art, i find it very disrespectful and does not sit well with me.

    • @futureactuary101
      @futureactuary101 2 месяца назад +11

      same. i will not buy this. how can they justify changing Toriyama's art. i dont who the higher ups at square enix are listening too... but they really need to find better advice about selling their games to a world audience. Twitter is not the opinion of most gamers...

    • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
      @ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 месяца назад +10

      @@futureactuary101 They didn't change Toriyama's art. Toriyama did in 2020 when he was working on this game along side The Dark Prince. The final version was something that was a compromise between Bird Productions, Square Enix, and CERO.
      Twitter isn't the opinion of most gamers and neither is this site or a certain r slash board. The only opinions who matter in this case aren't even posting here. They're on the opposite side of the Pacific in Japan because that's the primary audience of Dragon Quest.
      The fact that people are already trying to speak on Toriyama's behalf to put words into his mouth is already disgusting. If he did have something to say about it, Toyotaro would've spoken up about it long ago. Instead, everyone here is invoking his name to push their own agenda.

    • @Omnibus4Everyone
      @Omnibus4Everyone 2 месяца назад

      @@RikoRik33 Same.
      Also as a European. O mothers and fathers fought against censorship and for more freedom.
      Only for it to be reintroduced in society under the veil of virtue

    • @RemLasher77
      @RemLasher77 2 месяца назад

      Akira Toriyama is probably rolling in his grave from what being done.

    • @steaksmash33
      @steaksmash33 2 месяца назад

      This is closest to the original designs as you can get. Look at DQ 11 and then this. They've been updated designs for a long time

  • @blackreaper0976
    @blackreaper0976 Месяц назад

    I just subscribed to your channel. Thank you for the encouragement and I agree, videogames DO need to bring the messages back to the center as they used to be.

    • @LightsAnon
      @LightsAnon Месяц назад +1

      My dude you have a ff7 profile picture. Very left wing game.

  • @Taikomo
    @Taikomo 2 месяца назад +8

    The censorship of DQ3 remake approximates to about 12 more pixels of clothing on the sprites and more character build options than before when gear and personalities aren't tied to gender. And that's literally it. Yet people are acting like this is the greatest offender to humanity because their favorite grifter youtuber told them to act that way. Because we live in an age where whining and bitching is all there is to video game discussions. It's like people get joy out of being angry.
    Everything about this is blown way out of proportion and absolutely none of this will be remembered after the game launches and the grifters move on to their next target. And the fools will follow them and get angry about the next thing they're told to get angry about. And nothing will change.
    Man, I'm just tired. The game looks amazing, but people aren't seeing the forest for the trees.
    I lost a lot of respect for you because of this video. The irony of the things you say and then claiming you want a good faith discussion. You are repeating one side's hyperbolic views and then pretend to "reach across the isle". A grifter in a sea of grifters, then.

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  2 месяца назад +5

      God bless you dude I hope you wake up soon

    • @RemLasher77
      @RemLasher77 2 месяца назад

      My ideal scenario would be to have a day one update that alters sprites to remove the despised changes brought on by the demands and return to how they were actually supposed to be.

    • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
      @ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 месяца назад

      Most people are completely unaware of the situation surrounding Dragon Quest and Square Enix as a whole because they want to follow the narrative that their favorite content creators have crafted for them. This censorship began almost 8 years ago and if you don't count the mobile games, this is the fifth game to be censored. If you do count mobile, this is at least the eleventh. This is how little people actually care about this censorship. It took them almost a decade and a dozen games to notice. To make matters worse, they didn't say anything until Akira Toriyama passed so that they could invoke his name after his passing as if he didn't sign off on this back in 2020 and his work for Dragon Quest XII doesn't exist while ignoring the fact that he handed over Dragon Ball to Toyotaro as of the Tournament of Power.
      DQ3 remake is going to do amazing in Japan and it deserves to. And the whole time, the west is going to be confused as to why it succeeded and blame it on everything else like exclusivity. In reality, the problem was that Square Enix stopped making JRPGs.

  • @shahamut5009
    @shahamut5009 2 месяца назад

    I also have 6 kids! Gamer dads ftw!

  • @jorji_
    @jorji_ 2 месяца назад

    goon quest 3

  • @GArvelo
    @GArvelo 2 месяца назад +6

    Gamer first, Yes it does suck but I love video games and enjoy a good jrpg. I will be picking up Dragon Quest 3. Don't get me wrong social media gaming. No matter what you do you will always upset a group of people. The question is, which one group will be more upset? This reminds me of Hogwarts' legacy, that game alone divided sides, due to its creator. But she had no voice or input on that game. Even with the new PlayStation-exclusive Ghost of Yotei, many are upset because they have to play as a female. Crazy huh. I feel this age where companies & corporations are more greedy than ever and people are more sensitive. Gaming was fun to play with people now I don't know anymore.

    • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
      @ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 месяца назад +1

      The vocal people on social media and gaming journalists will always be the loudest, but it doesn't mean they're right. The ones who you should be paying attention to are the fans who do support your games because they're the ones keeping you afloat and allowing you to continue what you're doing. This is proven by games like No Man's Sky and even the recently released The Dark Prince. But if you just listen to the loudest, you get modern Final Fantasy where the core audience has basically abandoned it and the people who were complaining aren't even buying the product.

    • @terriblydankpersn3815
      @terriblydankpersn3815 2 месяца назад

      @@GArvelo the problem is that they trying to push these political agendas into the gaming culture and its wrong. I know art is subjective for everyone so if you want something different, you work on it yourself and not push and ruin it for others down the road. If you buy this then you are basically supporting this anti male anti white agendas that they are trying to shove down. Obviously it's gonna give them more power. You let them in and they are all over you. It will never stop. They are deliberately trying to come up with new problems and are then bent on selling the solution. Don't support them. It will ruin gaming and it will be even worse than what already is.. Pirate the game if you really want to.

  • @armind7
    @armind7 2 месяца назад +7

    I just won't support any of it. Everything has been infiltrated by this nonsense & enough is enough. Blackrock CEO Larry Fink straight out said in an interview, (this change will be forced on companies.) Depending on a company's esg rating, depends on the amount of investment from the likes of Blackrock & vanguard. Ubisoft comes to mind with this & now look at them. If any of us want change, speak with your wallet and do not purchase. It does make a difference.

  • @CrimsonFIame
    @CrimsonFIame 2 месяца назад +1

    I love that every since the creator spoke out the tourist have been revealed showing they don't care about the series nor have they played it. It was always about their ridiculous beliefs and if challenge they turn into lunatics

  • @Kyuaire
    @Kyuaire 2 месяца назад +3

    That what stopped me from buying it

  • @BigCowProductions
    @BigCowProductions 2 месяца назад +11

    I am sad that I won't be able to play DQ 3 hd-2d, but I will NOT purchase or support such inimical garbage. Too many other games vying for my attention

    • @rebelvong7217
      @rebelvong7217 2 месяца назад

      Im sad I wont be playing this game because the devolpers decided to open their mouthes and give power to this stupid idea of censorship and then in the same breath insult my country. I have canceled my FF14 sub and will not go back and I am done buying anymore of their games because of it. They should of shut up and shilled their game. They want to shit on someone it should be their bosses who made the decision to release this game in regions where they might need content to not be racy. Instead the perverted nerds who cant imagine shes running around with her kitty out have to stir shit up.

  • @tolerantxgaming4530
    @tolerantxgaming4530 Месяц назад

    Did you say "self deleting"? WTF is that? Suicide or deleting your social media? I'm confused. If you arent about needless censorship say the word. Geez.

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  Месяц назад +1

      It’s susicide and what I’m doing isn’t censoring it’s just how I speak

    • @tolerantxgaming4530
      @tolerantxgaming4530 Месяц назад

      @@GingerPrimeGaming you have a great channel. much respect. great videos. thank you.

  • @ChilleUK
    @ChilleUK 2 месяца назад +6

    I do blame America, but for the gender choice I have no real issue tbh

  • @shawnsindulfoabellana3912
    @shawnsindulfoabellana3912 2 месяца назад +4

    Like you cared about the series Ginger😒

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  2 месяца назад +2

      I’ve played every single one

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  2 месяца назад +1

      And I usually buy multiple copies and different platforms for support. I own 3 copies of DQ11 for example

    • @shawnsindulfoabellana3912
      @shawnsindulfoabellana3912 2 месяца назад +2

      @@GingerPrimeGaming you’ve only played the Erdrick trilogy, DQIV and DQXI. Don’t BS me dude.

    • @shawnsindulfoabellana3912
      @shawnsindulfoabellana3912 2 месяца назад +2

      @@GingerPrimeGaming oh really? But most DQ games outside of the Erdrick Trilogy only had two platforms not 3. And DQIX is stuck in one platform which is the DS.
      I’m calling out your BS you’re not a real fan, you’re just here to grift for views considering you have low views despite your subscriber count

    • @shawnsindulfoabellana3912
      @shawnsindulfoabellana3912 2 месяца назад +3

      @@GingerPrimeGamingyou’re vague response of playing all of them just screams to me “ im not a fan but I’m gonna lie and pretend that i am a fan so that i can counter this person who calls out your BS”.
      Admit you’re not a real fan and you never cared about the series only for grifting/political in return for views.

  • @ILikeYous
    @ILikeYous 2 месяца назад

    Noped out when I saw the message insert. Would like to play it but I won't support the message because who it targets as villain and as convert.

  • @kevindevenport3596
    @kevindevenport3596 2 месяца назад +9

    Grown man doesn't buy game because of text.
    Professionally upset? Kettle meet black.

  • @MrLandstorm
    @MrLandstorm 2 месяца назад

    This evil needs to stop. I love this series but at this point it isn't the same series anymore anyway. Especially if we allow this now it will stray further in the future. Let them learn. Let it wither away if needed.

    • @gardevoirtraunmagil3881
      @gardevoirtraunmagil3881 2 месяца назад +3

      So you mean, we should boycott the game so that no more DQ games come to the West. That's nonsense

    • @JesusChrist2000BC
      @JesusChrist2000BC 2 месяца назад +1

      @@gardevoirtraunmagil3881 If that's what it takes yes. Playing censored games isn't the solution.

  • @jlstruyde
    @jlstruyde 2 месяца назад +5

    The wokeness in gaming and what Nintendo is trying to do to palworld. Suing over a gaming mechanic.

  • @DevyOats
    @DevyOats 2 месяца назад +1

    I've seen many hills that people fight from, but this is just ridiculous. lol
    To summarize the video: Dude complains more than the people he's complaining about.

  • @TheBossnia
    @TheBossnia 2 месяца назад +5

    A person that thinks that people fighting woke ideology are radical right... just asked youtube to never recommend your channel again.

  • @Dronetothetop
    @Dronetothetop Месяц назад

    I don't buy woke games and also, I am blocking your channel.

  • @zolmation
    @zolmation 2 месяца назад +2

    wait so you still ahve male and female but you're upset because it doesn't say boy and girl? this is a nothing burger

  • @seriousshuck3484
    @seriousshuck3484 2 месяца назад +1

    I wont be buying it.

  • @poeticpursuits1332
    @poeticpursuits1332 Месяц назад

    I can't take anyone seriously who thinks body types in games as a stand in for gender is somehow political targeting of kids. I'd prefer just male, female, an nonbinary options for those who want them but it is legitimately hilarious that people think children are being indoctrinated by body rype options. If a kid can handle video game violence and occasionally adult humor they can handle a body type.

    • @poeticpursuits1332
      @poeticpursuits1332 Месяц назад

      I mean the female warrior is dressed in an incredibly sexual manner and the female jester or gadabout I think it's called now days is literally a playboy bunny.

    • @GingerPrimeGaming
      @GingerPrimeGaming  Месяц назад

      They themselves have said they are coming for the kids you don’t need to believe it but that doesn’t change it. There is a reason why they’ve been seeding this stuff into so much media that targets children and I’ll continue to educate parents on the danger of this ideology

  • @Fleshlight_Reviewer
    @Fleshlight_Reviewer 2 месяца назад +2

    was gonna buy it... gonna buy a non-woke game instead

    • @gardevoirtraunmagil3881
      @gardevoirtraunmagil3881 2 месяца назад +1

      Which games are not woke?

    • @BrigadoomNorth
      @BrigadoomNorth Месяц назад

      ​@@gardevoirtraunmagil3881Archaelund is a non-woke RPG, good replacement for DQ.

    • @Tea_Dawg
      @Tea_Dawg Месяц назад

      Good luck, you'll find a video calling everything woke these days. From Silent Hill 2 to Sonic x Shadow to Metaphor

  • @LiverPlusGut
    @LiverPlusGut 2 месяца назад +1

    Based take- sub!

  • @IgnusXI
    @IgnusXI 2 месяца назад

    I can't wait to roast this woke stuff as a rising celebrity lmfao.

  • @spatoola
    @spatoola 29 дней назад

    I don't understand why it's such a big deal. Who cares. Can't believe you opened the video with that. Wouldn't have even known it was a thing if it weren't for grown men wringing their hands over this. I hit stop and I asked youtube to nit rec this channel again. Your politics belong in your head. This is useless.

  • @sonjablue9850
    @sonjablue9850 2 месяца назад