Can we take a second to admire how the Merchant is actually moving his hands up and down the neck of the Violin/Citar? It's such a beautiful surprise to see this in a game so perfect
Damm and now I understand why I felt emotional listening to this. Gehrman has to be my favourite Fromsoft Boss. His theme, the arena, his lore and fight are just beautifully tragic. I just wish he had more dialogue/he didn't dissappear for half the game.
@@Exel3nce And yet why do we get emotional from hearing plin plin in anything? It's not Gwyns theme but we can still make a connection to him. Same for Gehrman here.
I tried to kill him to just get his stone to take to the round table but he whooped my ass wasn't expecting it so now he's permanently agro and I have to run from him when I use that grace
what was it? the hunt? the blood? or the horrible dream? oh, it doesn't matter. it always comes down to the hunter's helper to clean up after these sorts of messes...
From Soft just started adding mouth moving animations and they don't even sync up to the dialogue, but they can animate accurate finger and hand placement for the assorted merchant NPCs lmao.
Like others have pointed out, It's not the same song but it def has a similar vibe. The merchants are some of my favorite npcs though, love all of the storied history they clearly have with the world of Elden Ring. One of best examples of a group in a video game who feel like they have a really believable reason for why they are who they are and how they fit into the world as a whole.
theres an area in the late game with enemies that act really similarly to bloodborne hunters. they have crossbows in one hand and a sword in the other, they backstep instead of rolling and wear outfits that kinda resemble something from bloodborne EDIT: guys I know they're called pages now, you don't have to keep telling me lmao
@@zenmanalex7548 I've also found that items relating to dragons make a lot of very deliberate dark souls references... They describe the dragons as having scales made of stone and being ancient
A really cool theory i’ve heard is that while bloodborne and souls all exist within their own self contained universe they may be connected to the lands between spiritually, magically, etc
There's a weapon that is almost identical to the whirligig saw and several enemies with distinct similarities to those in Bloodborne. I love these subtle nods...and I love Bloodbore...and it makes me happy ^_^
@@knavenformed9436 “Medieval” eldritch horror Bloodborne wasn’t in medieval but elden ring is now I love the mix of medieval dragons, giants and magical knights with bloodborne theme i think the game is absolutely perfect with its setting!!
@@knavenformed9436 how is the final boss an Eldritch horror? It’s more like a weird spiritual entity that manifested itself. The boss at the end of the Ranni quest line looks more like something out of Bloodborne to me
I remember finding him play and felt so nostalgic for some reason that I stopped and listened to it for a 5 mins and now I know why I felt that way... this is pure gold
"Best boys". They are heretics who summoned an Outer God bent on destroying the entire world. They and their clan are the cause of Frenzy/Madness which is why they fight with Frenzy magic. The few we meet around the world are the few of their people who escaped capture and weren't locked up under the sewers of the capital.
There are several references to bloodborne in ER. My favourite is the beast creast heater shield. The description says: A medium-sized metal shield. Easier to handle than a kite shield. Features a beast as its crest, serving to remind warriors not to succumb to the arousal of battle. Fight with passion, but become nor its prisoner.
SPOILER WARNING FOR END GAME CONTENT but i don't think that's a bloodborne reference The Godfrey icon talisman states that "he took the Beast Regent Serosh upon on his back to suppress the ceaseless lust for battle." We see in his fight that he has Serosh on his back, and it's after he kills Serosh that he transforms in Hoarah Loux, Warrior. The title of warrior is important, and it implies that all, or at least a lot of tarnished were at some point warriors too. The Axe of Godfrey states that he lead the Tarnished during the Long March, and Margit even says how "Warrior blood must truly run in thy veins, Tarnished." The meaning of the beast crest on the shield reminds warriors (Tarnished) of both Godfrey's power and of Hoarah Loux's lust for battle, and specifically of how Serosh would calm said lust for battle. From treats beasts in Elden Ring in differing ways though. We see the Bloodborne side of them in the Beast Clergyman Gurranq, with him loosing himself to his appetite for death, and we see this new side of beasts in Serosh.
In the lava area, there are the people with their entire body covered by a bag and their head covered by a sack. The only way they can move is by wriggling across the ground and leaping at you, similar to the enemies in the Astral Clocktower in Bloodborne's DLC.
They're called Albinaurics and they're a re-occuring enemy in the game, the 1st generation are the ones that can't walk then their 2nd generation are the ones with alien head and cartwheels to you.
@@KnowThatIDontKnowYou pretty sure the headsack boys from volcano manor aren't ablinaurics. i know the cripple ladies in consecrated snowfield, and the white head guys, are, but i don't think sackboys are.
i absolutely love this. bloodborne is my favorite game ever and this shows that they havent forgot about the game. i just wish sony would work something new out for the franchise.
Now that Sony is happy to release some of its exclusives on PC... Why not Bloodborne? Even if it was capped at 30FPS (which I hope it wouldn't), I would buy 5 copies and send them as presents to other people that have yet to play this masterpiece.
can wa all agree that despite killing all the nomadic merchants its the best options so you have all their shop inventories in one place if you do it you are a monster and deserve to be invaded nonstop?
Really should have had a mechanic where buying a certain amount from each or completing a small side quest gave you their bearing, both for convenience but also because that cut Caravan quest sounded dope and I want more lore on them.
@@UltravioletNomad yeah, the nomadic merchant tribe having a questline would have been so good, but perfection doesnt exist in reality, and the game has enough performance issues as it is, more complexity would mean more issues, i was sad about the horseless pvp but now i cant imagine how many more times my game would have crashed with horse pvp
I don't buy that this is a bloodborne reference. The motif has barely three notes in common to one section of Gehrman's theme. It just feels similar because its probably written by Yuka Kitamura and happens to be in the same key. COULD be. But I think it's a stretch. Pretty cool detail though.
@@Tekkytekky You actually surprised me there! I gotta say, I didn't know it wasn't her and I'm a composer. But I see now. They usually have her do all the melancholy themes so I just assumed.
This is definitely not The First Hunter, I've listened to it a thousand time and that was not part of it. The strings sound similar but nowhere in the song does it repeat itself like that.
If you want a real Easter Egg/reference to Bloodborne, look at Ghost of Tsushima. They literally give you a outfit called the Yharnham set saying "from a world of blood" while real gehrmans theme plays on a small flute.
Dude they’ve taken several peices through there games and have retconned them into this game. Leonine Misbegotten has fragments of Gaels theme and move sets, Glintstone Dragon Adul has fragments of Seath the Scaleless theme, shit ALL dragon fights (other than Aduls) share the boss theme from the Ancient Dragon fight from DS3. It’s From software, they are masters of reutilizing assets.
@@azazelsiad3601 the omenkiller also has the capra demon moveset, not to mention they literally 1:1 copy pasted the crabs, i don't personally mind but i can't deny that its lazy af
I've realized that even though Elden Ring is super dope, I really am waiting for whatever From Soft's spiritual successor to Bloodborne is. If its BB2, great, if it's something else, fantastic as well.
If Elden Ring is big dark soul all I can ever ask for is Big Bloodborne, I want to roam the Yharnam Moors and discover fucked up little villages like the Fishing Hamlet or Dominula
This. I keep asking myself where is From going next considering they already made such a great and ambitious open-world that's like a love letter to previous games. Going hard in another direction like they did with Sekiro and BB sounds logical. My heart of hearts still wants BB2 (or at least a spiritual successor) though
agreed it seems everything in this game has to be a reference and not just because its cool its like looking for deeper meaning such as the guy who murdered john lennon because he "saw" it in Atlas Shrugged
Part of me thinks the Lands in Between is the realm of the real where the Tarnished haves dreams from the Nightmares of Bloodborne to the Fires of Dark Souls. Look at the past software games with Easter Eggs that revolves around paintings. Like the painting in bloodborne that i personally thought it was something towards Souls but then look at this game after all these years. This whole franchise is so vague that even Ring itself is going to explain a lot of unsolved mysteries and unanswered questions that we all been asking.... Damn im glad GRRM helped this game shine. Praise the Sun fellow Hunter
The merchant's people were exposed to maddening knowledge when they invited in the flame of madness and saw visions that drove many of them insane. This one obviously saw how many times i threw myself at Gherman.
@@MisterK-YT talking to D in the roundtable he will say "those who live in death should be left well alone" which is a pretty much a reference to lady Maria's "A corpse should be left well alone
If you do Dung eater Questline there's a similiar line from Lady Maria before you enter the DLC "They'll be cursed. Along with their children, and their children's children, for all time to come." "
Then there's the person who turns herself into a doll (funniest shit I've ever seen), and when you talk to her after that point she asks if you make a habit of talking to dolls. It may not be as strong a reference as these others, but I think it counts.
‘ahhh, this? it tells a tale of beasts and hunters, and both of their insatiable bloodlust. all just an old legend really. i just think the song has a ring to it.’
There's at least two Demon's Souls references, too. One is I think a Grass Crest Talisman and the description mentions "it was named out of nostalgia". The other is the return of the HP regen greatshield with a vertical ridge design and a painting over the front.
@@SilverSkiver So are the nobles in the open world a reference to the Dark Souls 3 hollows because they have the same AI? Seems kinda reminiscent to me...
although Elden Ring is pretty much played and enjoyed by all, Bloodborne will always have a place in the hearts of many Playstation users, what an iconic game... Bloodborne will always be my number one from software title.
Agreed. The atmosphere and art style of that game, even when it's at a shitty 30 FPS, is just perfection. They really need to do a remaster of it for next gen consoles.
@@CosmicAeon though a remaster would be cool, I think being a ps4 only title is just something special, something only a handful of players could say they've experienced, it gives the game a level of uniqueness, ya know?
@@gabethenutpalma6033 I think that's a terrible way to look at it, personally. Uniqueness be damned, it's been long enough for Sony to share the game by now.
You can Also found in the game the Chikage and The Wirligit Saw but whit diferent names Also there is a hand cannon but the Weapons are the same like the ones in Bloodborne
There are other merchants that can be found playing this song. There's one before Summonwater Village on the upper road from Limgrave to Caelid, and one in Nokron that you can get to by climbing up the shanty houses built on the first bridge passed the first Hallowhorn Ground that's supposed to lead to the actual Nokron. I guess do what you will with this info, now you know 3 locations you can sit, buy and listen to some beautiful and somber music and maybe look upon a sunset. :) EDIT: Second Bridge
Dude I'm so glad they made the merchant's fingers match properly to what he's playing, that's one of those little details that is so frustrating when you notice it
@@Mason_____ The merchants theme is the Ghermans theme. The song played in this video is the exact same as all of the other merchants who play music. So many people are saying they are different, but I've been playing them back and forth trying to find a difference, and there is none.
@@WelshSwordsman what the fuck are you even on about? This is not The First Hunter/Gehrmans theme from Bloodborne. No one is saying the merchants have different themes, we are saying its not Gehrmans theme.
@@RureLyther Let me spell it out for you: "It's not Ghermans theme" My response: "The merchants theme is the Ghermans theme." and "So many people are saying they are different, but I've been playing them back and forth trying to find a difference, and there is none." Meaning that this is a direct reference to Gehrman's theme, and that I've been switching tabs and finding that it is the same. It may be a simplified cover, but it is Gerhman's theme. "Its the merchants theme" My response: "The song played in this video is the exact same as all of the other merchants who play music." Thus inferring that there are no multiple songs, as Mason is implying. I mainly point this out as a bunch of other comments on this video say that there are multiple themes, saying that there is this cover of Gerhman's Theme and a Merchant Theme.
It’s just a good song with a similar vibe. Wouldn’t call it a reference, it should be recognized as something important. This song means something to these people.
it’s probably a little hint or nod to the game. FromSoft adores doing this. there’s dark souls and demon souls references in bloodborne. there’s demon souls and bloodborne references in ds3. i can’t recall sekiro, seeing as how i couldn’t actually get very far into it (i’ve always been bad at parrying) but while the tune is a little different, there are key notes there and melodies that are pretty much identical to gehrman’s theme
Dung Eater saying that the curse will curse their children and their children too is a clear reffrence to Old Hunters, at the same time he has the sun crest which is a clear dark souls reffrence, I kinda feel like they made this character to resemble their fanbase and tbh being compared to a shiteater is really somethin to think about.
Glad I’m not the only one who caught on to that! Such a clear allusion to the creature outside the fishing hamlet in BB, and the amygdala that takes you to the hunters nightmare!
Look closely at the sun crest on the dung eater. It's actually collared onto him, and not there by his choice. The sun is also a representation of the golden order as noted by sunflowers, so I think it's actually a seal to bind him and his curse within the golden order's control. In the dung eater's questline he states that the player character is him, and by this I think he means we are similarly shackled by the golden order, ideologically if not physically, just like how Solaire was shackled to his quest to find his own sun.
Somewhat unrelated, but I wish the game can have small quests for each merchants for you to get their bell ring. Like retrieving something they lost, visit a person or place that means a lot to them, or kill some miniboss they have a beef with. Once it is done they will thank you, give you the ring and carry on their journey.
I wish i could just find a Saw Cleaver hidden somewhere, with a trick action when you dualwield and maybe a bit (Just a tiny bit to make it special) enhanced quick step as a special. Maybe a hunters garb around the same place, maybe a small dark village somewhere. Where, rumors say, people go mad over blood.
I grew attached to these merchants, so much that I can't bring myself to kill them even if some guide said to. They feel pretty human too, so I guess that's part of the reason...
Does anyone notice how the merchant's hand moves up and down the fretboard and his fingering changes from note to note? I've not seen that done before in other games. It's the little details like this that are so important.
It's actually not a Bloodborne reference. It's simply a tune played on a violin type instrument that happens to be in the same key, which is D minor. Same key means overall same vibe
Idk , I really don't see that much similarity with Gehrman theme, is it really a reference? Even if I'm focusing I can only hear maybe 2 notes that are kinda similar But it seems kinda far fetched. Am I missing it ?
Evertime I hear the first part of the song it makes me think of the song « Somebody come get her, she’s dancing like a stripper » and I can’t ever unhear it
"ah, oh, eh, uh.. terribly sorry"
my brother in christ, keep playing that shit
Guy went through almost all the vowels 😞 he should not be sorry for playing such a master piece damn
Yeah he should be... we never said the word "stop" right?
@@GarkKahn Hehe, fair.
I'd just sit down next to him to listen
dead ass meme from like 6 months ago. pathetic
@@newuser8462 The comment is from six months ago..?
Tonight, the merchants join the Hunt.
Dear o dear what was it? The prices? The scarlot rot? Or being horribly maidenless?
Oh it doesn't matter it's always comes down to the tarnished merchant to sell these sorts of things
Top item on the merchant's list: "How to pick up Fair Maidens".
@@FKyoutubeSERIOUSLY “Only for paying customers.”
The Merchant Guild
Can we take a second to admire how the Merchant is actually moving his hands up and down the neck of the Violin/Citar? It's such a beautiful surprise to see this in a game so perfect
That is not a sitar
That is not a violin
That is not a viola
That is not a cello
love how i wasn't the only one to instantly notice the total fail in naming the instrument. yes i do agree with your comment, though.
Damm and now I understand why I felt emotional listening to this. Gehrman has to be my favourite Fromsoft Boss. His theme, the arena, his lore and fight are just beautifully tragic. I just wish he had more dialogue/he didn't dissappear for half the game.
what do you understand? its not even his theme^^
@@Exel3nce And yet why do we get emotional from hearing plin plin in anything? It's not Gwyns theme but we can still make a connection to him. Same for Gehrman here.
Tonight, Gehrman joins the hunt...
So emotional…? Eeesh it’s not even his theme. Cmon man stop being so corny lol 😆
Only teenagers think it's cool not to care about anything
Very late in ranni's quest as well there is an area linked with cosmos where you can see statues of the "little ones". Very cool game FromSoft
Nokron eternal city I think it was
I'm pretty sure those are just the Fallen Hawks, the little gremlins with ghostflame arrows, not messengers.
@@jadenkarpoff9158 but they look exactly like em
@@myamdane6895 if you ignore the way they look.
@@marlonmarquez4798 bruh they do tho
when even the roundtable hold didn’t feel safe anymore, this guy has been a steady source of serenity in this chaotic environment
Honestly. I can’t recall how many times I’ve just stood back and took a break for a little bit while listening to this merchant…
The Roundtable Hold is so sketchy and I haven’t even completed the story. I feel safer with Kalé.
The Hold might be actually safe, but the church of Elle with Kale is my home.
@@97Multiphantom I guess you haven’t ran into the raid yet
I tried to kill him to just get his stone to take to the round table but he whooped my ass wasn't expecting it so now he's permanently agro and I have to run from him when I use that grace
what was it? the hunt? the blood? or the horrible dream? oh, it doesn't matter. it always comes down to the hunter's helper to clean up after these sorts of messes...
Tonight, Gehrman joins the hunt...
The night, and the dream, were long
You must accept your death. Be free from the night...
That's literally those npcs- the ones that play the violin are always afflicted with madness and are the hardest to kill.
We are born by the blood, made men by the blood.... Undone by the blood
Holy shit the animation on his hands though! Is he doing proper finger and hand placement? Definitely looks like it.
Yup, he does!
you can even see him do the vibratos too!
@@cinder3150 Vinny memes ruined my life and now Im gay.
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 bruh 😭😭
From Soft just started adding mouth moving animations and they don't even sync up to the dialogue, but they can animate accurate finger and hand placement for the assorted merchant NPCs lmao.
Like others have pointed out, It's not the same song but it def has a similar vibe. The merchants are some of my favorite npcs though, love all of the storied history they clearly have with the world of Elden Ring. One of best examples of a group in a video game who feel like they have a really believable reason for why they are who they are and how they fit into the world as a whole.
It is interesting how they play the tune as they are also connected with the frenzied flame which is also similar to bloodborne
They are also evil, apparently. Or at least not on the side of the Greater Will.
@@Gh0st652 To be fair, the “Greater Will” is pretty horrible the more and more you learn about it.
My favorite Merchant is the dopey-sounding one that yells “Ah sed don’t ‘urt me! AHHHHHH” in a really goofy way before blasting you with madness.
@@beanieguitarguy4070 It is! I like that you reach a road block and the Fingers just fuck off to commune for a millenia
theres an area in the late game with enemies that act really similarly to bloodborne hunters. they have crossbows in one hand and a sword in the other, they backstep instead of rolling and wear outfits that kinda resemble something from bloodborne
EDIT: guys I know they're called pages now, you don't have to keep telling me lmao
What’s it called? Is it the lava area?
@@lucavenn
i think theyre called perfumers or smth, they're in lyndell
@@Tulip_bip good call i saw that and have a pair of gloves they have a odd description very cryptic
@@zenmanalex7548
I've also found that items relating to dragons make a lot of very deliberate dark souls references...
They describe the dragons as having scales made of stone and being ancient
A really cool theory i’ve heard is that while bloodborne and souls all exist within their own self contained universe they may be connected to the lands between spiritually, magically, etc
There's a weapon that is almost identical to the whirligig saw
and several enemies with distinct similarities to those in Bloodborne.
I love these subtle nods...and I love Bloodbore...and it makes me happy ^_^
Rivers of Blood = Chikage
Well the lore of the game is pretty much Eldritch horror like bloodborne
Won't spoil the final boss of the game, but yeah those who know, know.
@@knavenformed9436
“Medieval” eldritch horror
Bloodborne wasn’t in medieval but elden ring is now
I love the mix of medieval dragons, giants and magical knights with bloodborne theme i think the game is absolutely perfect with its setting!!
@@knavenformed9436 how is the final boss an Eldritch horror? It’s more like a weird spiritual entity that manifested itself. The boss at the end of the Ranni quest line looks more like something out of Bloodborne to me
@@Scarlight_JB It's about the lore not the looks.
I remember finding him play and felt so nostalgic for some reason that I stopped and listened to it for a 5 mins and now I know why I felt that way... this is pure gold
Kale and his cousins are truly the best boys of Elden Ring.
What if it's just kale switching hats like the dude from avatar the last Airbender
@@thepleasednutlord would anyone notice?
It's like nurse joy and all 50 of them look the same at the family reunion
"Best boys".
They are heretics who summoned an Outer God bent on destroying the entire world. They and their clan are the cause of Frenzy/Madness which is why they fight with Frenzy magic.
The few we meet around the world are the few of their people who escaped capture and weren't locked up under the sewers of the capital.
@@NATIK001 Let he who has not occasionally summoned a death god or two cast the first stone!
There are several references to bloodborne in ER. My favourite is the beast creast heater shield. The description says:
A medium-sized metal shield. Easier to handle than a kite shield.
Features a beast as its crest, serving to remind warriors not to
succumb to the arousal of battle. Fight with passion, but become
nor its prisoner.
SPOILER WARNING FOR END GAME CONTENT but i don't think that's a bloodborne reference
The Godfrey icon talisman states that "he took the Beast Regent Serosh upon on his back to suppress the ceaseless lust for battle." We see in his fight that he has Serosh on his back, and it's after he kills Serosh that he transforms in Hoarah Loux, Warrior. The title of warrior is important, and it implies that all, or at least a lot of tarnished were at some point warriors too. The Axe of Godfrey states that he lead the Tarnished during the Long March, and Margit even says how "Warrior blood must truly run in thy veins, Tarnished."
The meaning of the beast crest on the shield reminds warriors (Tarnished) of both Godfrey's power and of Hoarah Loux's lust for battle, and specifically of how Serosh would calm said lust for battle. From treats beasts in Elden Ring in differing ways though. We see the Bloodborne side of them in the Beast Clergyman Gurranq, with him loosing himself to his appetite for death, and we see this new side of beasts in Serosh.
@@Corwin12000 it is man
@@urnuste “EVERYTHING IS A REFERENCE IN ELDEN RING AND YOU WILL ENJOY IT CHUD”
That's probably not a reference lol
@@Shadic67 FromSoft fans just make up shit in their head to fill the blanks lmao
In the lava area, there are the people with their entire body covered by a bag and their head covered by a sack. The only way they can move is by wriggling across the ground and leaping at you, similar to the enemies in the Astral Clocktower in Bloodborne's DLC.
Literally the same enemy, just reskinned.
They're called Albinaurics and they're a re-occuring enemy in the game, the 1st generation are the ones that can't walk then their 2nd generation are the ones with alien head and cartwheels to you.
The entire Volcano Manor area feels like a Bloodborne level.
@@MrGSABIorek I swear I hear the orphanage track sometimes when I'm in the dungeon part of the volcano manor
@@KnowThatIDontKnowYou pretty sure the headsack boys from volcano manor aren't ablinaurics. i know the cripple ladies in consecrated snowfield, and the white head guys, are, but i don't think sackboys are.
that was actually pretty well animated, the animation corresponded with the note changes and stuff, nice
With the dlc the bloodborne vibes increase with the frenzied flame.
"Somebody come herrr, she dancin like a stripperrrr!" Thats literally the first thing I hear and think of every time
THANK YOU I FELT LIKE I WAS GOING INSANE
THIS IS ALWAYS WHAT I HEARD
Glad I’m not the only one
yes this
What?
fromsoft gamers when they hear a violin: OMG ITS GEHRMAN!! ITS GEHRMANS SONG!!
i absolutely love this. bloodborne is my favorite game ever and this shows that they havent forgot about the game. i just wish sony would work something new out for the franchise.
Where’s my Bloodborne Kart Miyazaki
Now that Sony is happy to release some of its exclusives on PC... Why not Bloodborne? Even if it was capped at 30FPS (which I hope it wouldn't), I would buy 5 copies and send them as presents to other people that have yet to play this masterpiece.
@@SystemBD so true. i wish bloodborne was on pc. its my biggest wish for gaming right now.
@nicro not in my eyes but you have all the right to feel that way. elden ring is a great game.
@nicro they're all equally great and special in their own ways. Why compare? They're from the same developers anyway
can wa all agree that despite killing all the nomadic merchants its the best options so you have all their shop inventories in one place if you do it you are a monster and deserve to be invaded nonstop?
Yes. People that kill merchants should get invaded even if they play without coop.
@@axios4702 and when they try to invade they face the Invader Slayer.
Really should have had a mechanic where buying a certain amount from each or completing a small side quest gave you their bearing, both for convenience but also because that cut Caravan quest sounded dope and I want more lore on them.
@@UltravioletNomad yeah, the nomadic merchant tribe having a questline would have been so good, but perfection doesnt exist in reality, and the game has enough performance issues as it is, more complexity would mean more issues, i was sad about the horseless pvp but now i cant imagine how many more times my game would have crashed with horse pvp
They created Shabriri, so they deserve it.
I don't buy that this is a bloodborne reference. The motif has barely three notes in common to one section of Gehrman's theme. It just feels similar because its probably written by Yuka Kitamura and happens to be in the same key. COULD be. But I think it's a stretch. Pretty cool detail though.
Gherman theme was not written by Yuka. However, this short piece is also entirely unrelated it anyway. Cringe clickbait video title
@@Tekkytekky You actually surprised me there! I gotta say, I didn't know it wasn't her and I'm a composer. But I see now. They usually have her do all the melancholy themes so I just assumed.
Souls games have been known to have quite a lot of attention to detail so i wouldn't be surprised if it was a Bloodborne reference. Good point though.
I’ve listened to both and this is Gehrman theme. It shares the same notes and key. It’s not the complete version but it’s the main melody
@@b_rant_gaming8835 I mean, that is dope. It's just not a reference.
This is definitely not The First Hunter, I've listened to it a thousand time and that was not part of it. The strings sound similar but nowhere in the song does it repeat itself like that.
If you want a real Easter Egg/reference to Bloodborne, look at Ghost of Tsushima. They literally give you a outfit called the Yharnham set saying "from a world of blood" while real gehrmans theme plays on a small flute.
@@archangelgabriel8493 agreed, doesn't sound like it at all imo
Dude they’ve taken several peices through there games and have retconned them into this game. Leonine Misbegotten has fragments of Gaels theme and move sets, Glintstone Dragon Adul has fragments of Seath the Scaleless theme, shit ALL dragon fights (other than Aduls) share the boss theme from the Ancient Dragon fight from DS3. It’s From software, they are masters of reutilizing assets.
true
@@azazelsiad3601 the omenkiller also has the capra demon moveset, not to mention they literally 1:1 copy pasted the crabs, i don't personally mind but i can't deny that its lazy af
Its not Ghermans song, I wish it was. Its close but still hits that Bloodborne vibe
I've realized that even though Elden Ring is super dope, I really am waiting for whatever From Soft's spiritual successor to Bloodborne is. If its BB2, great, if it's something else, fantastic as well.
If Elden Ring is big dark soul all I can ever ask for is Big Bloodborne, I want to roam the Yharnam Moors and discover fucked up little villages like the Fishing Hamlet or Dominula
@@beatman2359 bro an open world bloodborne game with cities and villages would be so fucking dope 😭
This. I keep asking myself where is From going next considering they already made such a great and ambitious open-world that's like a love letter to previous games. Going hard in another direction like they did with Sekiro and BB sounds logical. My heart of hearts still wants BB2 (or at least a spiritual successor) though
@@AtilaZepol and with even bigger Cosmic monsters, some of the fanart monster of bloodborne would be dope to so in game
At this point it is more likely to get a remake than a sequel.
when my dad calls me a living failure (possible bloodborne reference)
y'all who kill the merchants might as well be the dung eater
It has two of the same notes as Gehrmans, perhaps a similar scale but its not his theme at all really unfortunately. Still a nice song though.
agreed it seems everything in this game has to be a reference and not just because its cool
its like looking for deeper meaning such as the guy who murdered john lennon because he "saw" it in Atlas Shrugged
When you go to that spirit place where you fight the deer, there’s a message that says, “don’t expect cleric beast”
“Good merchant, you have played well.
Now… I will show you mercy…
Part of me thinks the Lands in Between is the realm of the real where the Tarnished haves dreams from the Nightmares of Bloodborne to the Fires of Dark Souls. Look at the past software games with Easter Eggs that revolves around paintings. Like the painting in bloodborne that i personally thought it was something towards Souls but then look at this game after all these years. This whole franchise is so vague that even Ring itself is going to explain a lot of unsolved mysteries and unanswered questions that we all been asking....
Damn im glad GRRM helped this game shine. Praise the Sun fellow Hunter
The merchant's people were exposed to maddening knowledge when they invited in the flame of madness and saw visions that drove many of them insane. This one obviously saw how many times i threw myself at Gherman.
the earliest bloodborne reference would be talking to D in the roundtable
I feel like D also is in reference with vampire hunter D. D is also a hunter who hunt tho who lives in Death
How so??
D isn't a reference to Bloodborne
@@MisterK-YT talking to D in the roundtable he will say "those who live in death should be left well alone" which is a pretty much a reference to lady Maria's "A corpse should be left well alone
@Grace Lim his brother does the Alfred move on Fia that’s for sure
The Night, and the Dream, Were Long
If you do Dung eater Questline there's a similiar line from Lady Maria before you enter the DLC "They'll be cursed. Along with their children, and their children's children, for all time to come."
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I don't remember who, but some NPC literally says "a corpse should be left well alone" just like Lady Maria too.
@@Nestorglass it's where Amygdala grabs you before you enter DLC ruclips.net/video/l9TeAxP99Jo/видео.html
@@Nestorglass I recall this too pretty sure it's Malena scarlet rot boss
Then there's the person who turns herself into a doll (funniest shit I've ever seen), and when you talk to her after that point she asks if you make a habit of talking to dolls. It may not be as strong a reference as these others, but I think it counts.
@@blarg2429 LMAO that first joke right there Imma steal it
I don't think this is Gherman's theme exactly, but it is a bit similar.
It doesn’t really sound similar at all to me besides one part.
You're right. It's similar, but definitely not German's theme
the biggest sin fromsoft was to give bloodborne to sony
And demons souls
When you walk up to him and he's like "oh sorry how can I help you?" I wish we could say like "go on" or ask about the song in some way
‘ahhh, this? it tells a tale of beasts and hunters, and both of their insatiable bloodlust. all just an old legend really. i just think the song has a ring to it.’
The fucking space skull ant dude from the moon is definitely a Bloodborne type enemy big vibes
There's at least two Demon's Souls references, too. One is I think a Grass Crest Talisman and the description mentions "it was named out of nostalgia". The other is the return of the HP regen greatshield with a vertical ridge design and a painting over the front.
And the main theme of the game too
There's also a dagger called Glintstone Kris, its description hints that it was used in ancient rituals. It doesn't boost sorceries though.
@@jakewhitworth7267 yeah, thought the same after hearing it a few seconds and then get destroyed by Radagon.
@@SilverSkiver So are the nobles in the open world a reference to the Dark Souls 3 hollows because they have the same AI? Seems kinda reminiscent to me...
I love going to this bridge because of the way he syncs with the regions soundtrack
The night, and the dream, were long....
although Elden Ring is pretty much played and enjoyed by all, Bloodborne will always have a place in the hearts of many Playstation users, what an iconic game... Bloodborne will always be my number one from software title.
Agreed. The atmosphere and art style of that game, even when it's at a shitty 30 FPS, is just perfection. They really need to do a remaster of it for next gen consoles.
@@CosmicAeon though a remaster would be cool, I think being a ps4 only title is just something special, something only a handful of players could say they've experienced, it gives the game a level of uniqueness, ya know?
@@gabethenutpalma6033 I think that's a terrible way to look at it, personally. Uniqueness be damned, it's been long enough for Sony to share the game by now.
@@Corthmic To each thier own I suppose
@@gabethenutpalma6033 wtf
the attention to detail with the hands of the merchants when they play is pretty crazy
You can Also found in the game the Chikage and The Wirligit Saw but whit diferent names Also there is a hand cannon but the Weapons are the same like the ones in Bloodborne
every time my wife hears this she starts dancing like a stripper
11/10 song
There are other merchants that can be found playing this song. There's one before Summonwater Village on the upper road from Limgrave to Caelid, and one in Nokron that you can get to by climbing up the shanty houses built on the first bridge passed the first Hallowhorn Ground that's supposed to lead to the actual Nokron. I guess do what you will with this info, now you know 3 locations you can sit, buy and listen to some beautiful and somber music and maybe look upon a sunset. :)
EDIT: Second Bridge
You can hear this in the merchant from moghwyn palace
This is absolutely not Gehrman's theme. The two themes don't even sound the same
Dude I'm so glad they made the merchant's fingers match properly to what he's playing, that's one of those little details that is so frustrating when you notice it
How is it frustrating if it matches properly? And why would you be glad that it's frustrating? Confusing comment.
@@JackWilkos sorry I meant it's frustrating when they don't match up
The merchant in limgrave near the mariner boss also plays Gherman's theme
It's not Ghermans theme, its close but its not. Its the merchants theme
@@Mason_____ The merchants theme is the Ghermans theme. The song played in this video is the exact same as all of the other merchants who play music. So many people are saying they are different, but I've been playing them back and forth trying to find a difference, and there is none.
@@WelshSwordsman what the fuck are you even on about? This is not The First Hunter/Gehrmans theme from Bloodborne. No one is saying the merchants have different themes, we are saying its not Gehrmans theme.
@@RureLyther Let me spell it out for you:
"It's not Ghermans theme"
My response: "The merchants theme is the Ghermans theme." and "So many people are saying they are different, but I've been playing them back and forth trying to find a difference, and there is none."
Meaning that this is a direct reference to Gehrman's theme, and that I've been switching tabs and finding that it is the same. It may be a simplified cover, but it is Gerhman's theme.
"Its the merchants theme"
My response: "The song played in this video is the exact same as all of the other merchants who play music."
Thus inferring that there are no multiple songs, as Mason is implying. I mainly point this out as a bunch of other comments on this video say that there are multiple themes, saying that there is this cover of Gerhman's Theme and a Merchant Theme.
I always likened this to "somebody come get 'er, she's dancing like a stripper..."
That guy needs to make a channel and cover the whole soulsborne ost with a violin
*Cello plays*
OOMGG BLOODBORNE REFERENCE!!??11
It’s just a good song with a similar vibe. Wouldn’t call it a reference, it should be recognized as something important. This song means something to these people.
it’s probably a little hint or nod to the game. FromSoft adores doing this. there’s dark souls and demon souls references in bloodborne. there’s demon souls and bloodborne references in ds3.
i can’t recall sekiro, seeing as how i couldn’t actually get very far into it (i’ve always been bad at parrying) but while the tune is a little different, there are key notes there and melodies that are pretty much identical to gehrman’s theme
@@jakegoulin7701definitely just reaching.
One thing I also like is how the background Altus music still goes with what the merchant is playing in this kind of suspenseful way
THERES SWORDS IN ELDEN RING SO ITS A REFERENCE TO DARK SOULS 1!!!!
Like the Moonlight sword! :D
oh Gehrman, the First Hunter
Dung Eater saying that the curse will curse their children and their children too is a clear reffrence to Old Hunters, at the same time he has the sun crest which is a clear dark souls reffrence, I kinda feel like they made this character to resemble their fanbase and tbh being compared to a shiteater is really somethin to think about.
Glad I’m not the only one who caught on to that! Such a clear allusion to the creature outside the fishing hamlet in BB, and the amygdala that takes you to the hunters nightmare!
Yeah it 100% is.
Look closely at the sun crest on the dung eater. It's actually collared onto him, and not there by his choice. The sun is also a representation of the golden order as noted by sunflowers, so I think it's actually a seal to bind him and his curse within the golden order's control. In the dung eater's questline he states that the player character is him, and by this I think he means we are similarly shackled by the golden order, ideologically if not physically, just like how Solaire was shackled to his quest to find his own sun.
I had just finished plating Bloodborne and I haven’t even noticed this after listening to him play
Somewhat unrelated, but I wish the game can have small quests for each merchants for you to get their bell ring. Like retrieving something they lost, visit a person or place that means a lot to them, or kill some miniboss they have a beef with. Once it is done they will thank you, give you the ring and carry on their journey.
Brilliant idea
"Ah, you must be the new hunter"
I never even played Bloodborne so I don’t know what it sounded like but that is some beautiful music
You’re missing out! Definitely a must play for anyone, regardless if they are From Software fans or not.
@@Nocomment552 I would but isn’t it only on PlayStation?
Some of the notes make me think of "somebody come geteeeeeeerrrrrr" and since I started thinking about that i can't unhear it
Bloodborne 2 confirmed
this video was on my recommendation for 2 WEEKS !!
It literally isn’t gehrmans theme at all idk why people keep saying it is
Now that time has passed,
That video is double nostalgic
I wish i could just find a Saw Cleaver hidden somewhere, with a trick action when you dualwield and maybe a bit (Just a tiny bit to make it special) enhanced quick step as a special. Maybe a hunters garb around the same place, maybe a small dark village somewhere. Where, rumors say, people go mad over blood.
Ghernam ghost step is on the game, is Battle hability and OP one at that
Bloodhound step and Vulgar Milita Saw.
Volcano Manor is the most blood borne like place IMO
The crackling fire makes it even more fitting. Sure not intentional, yet reminiscent.
Funny thing is when I would kill a beast like creature in Elden Ring I would say "Beasts all over the shop"
Bleed builds all over the shop... you'll be one. Sooner or later...
When I first heard this in game. I was shocked. It made me feel so sad. And i wanted to cry. I love bloodborne.
I grew attached to these merchants, so much that I can't bring myself to kill them even if some guide said to.
They feel pretty human too, so I guess that's part of the reason...
Kill the merchants for what??
@@accelerator8558 So you can just buy all their wares at Roundtable instead of finding them all around the map, but not worth the guilt
@@Calamortar it sound like killing your helpers, not fun in that
@@accelerator8558 It's a dick move, but it's pratical
I won't do it however, they're really interesting as characters
@@nicholasantonio2350 agree, Also whats the point on having vendors in nice looking places or interesting places if you not gona visit, is a wasted
First time hearing this, I just sat there listening. Vibing.
nice tune, been a while since i heard it last...
Folk have forgotten it..
got, other things on their mind...
*Malenia:* "Things like me."
When I take a break to eat or whatever I'll sometimes afk next to these guys, the song is so nice.
Anyone who thinks this is Gehrman's theme should seek help, their ears don't function properly.
Except literally no one is saying that this is Gehrman’s song.
@@kingkwon8002 read the comments mate. or even the title of the video. literally the stupidest thing you could have responded with.
@@kingkwon8002 Are you mentally handicapped?
I'd always sit and listen to that. Never new it was from bloodborne.
Bloodborne fans when they hear a violin (it's a bloodborne reference)
lol
Bloodborne "fans" who must not have even listened to Gherman's theme recently
the ultimate meta woulda been having this merchant voiced by Gherman too
Peak elden ring music 🗣
Does anyone notice how the merchant's hand moves up and down the fretboard and his fingering changes from note to note? I've not seen that done before in other games. It's the little details like this that are so important.
Cyberpunk does it too
In Days Gone, the guitarrist that sings songs, has it's fingers band frets done perfectly as well :)
@@heroofhyrule6970 I haven't played it! That's great
@@MaxinEve I haven't played thos one either. Neat!
Oh wow, the animation of the guy playing the instrument actually looks pretty accurate. I didn't realize that while playing!
Bloodborne 2 would complete my life. Never happening though... Sadge.
That melody always hits a damn bullseye right in the feels, man 😢
It's actually not a Bloodborne reference. It's simply a tune played on a violin type instrument that happens to be in the same key, which is D minor. Same key means overall same vibe
Miyazaki does tend to hint at his next projects in his games. We could get an Elden Ring equivalent for Bloodborne (New IP but similar theme etc)
Idk , I really don't see that much similarity with Gehrman theme, is it really a reference? Even if I'm focusing I can only hear maybe 2 notes that are kinda similar But it seems kinda far fetched. Am I missing it ?
Twist plot, after be free from the Moon Pressence, Gehrman ended in Elden Ring, becoming a humble merchant.
There are dogs in Elden ring. Must be a reference to bloodborne dogs!
*gives him my whole bag of runes*
"keep going"
foul tarnished, hear a melody in a minor scale and think it is a reference
Lol
I had no idea this was a bloodborne reference
To bad it absolutely doesn't sound like Gherman's song
Ranni: "a dogged fellow, are we?
Or is it merely thine habit to talk to dolls?"
This doesn't sound like Gehrman's theme at all to me.
I just passed by this guy for the first time, and though I did not play bloodborne, I felt there was something more behind this song.
Sadly it sounds similar but it's not the song
Evertime I hear the first part of the song it makes me think of the song « Somebody come get her, she’s dancing like a stripper » and I can’t ever unhear it
I heard this and literally thought it was a reference, love this game and love fromsoftware