I don't think it is possible to have the same kind of impact (or a bigger one) just because it has visual upgrades, when we already know what's going to happen. For someone that never played it, definitely, it is the perfect moment for them to experience it.
i think that's their main target audience, since its also great for the people who will want to play the game due to the hbo show, that way they can have the same visual quality between both games
@@minecraftgravityguy I mean its on PC too, so it's generally available to an entire part of the gaming community that never got to experience it for NINE YEARS.
It's like watching a movie that was in black and white now in "living color". Sure, it's visually a pretty big change, however you know exactly what's going to happen and the company wants to charge you more than you've ever paid for this particular experience. No upgrade options for people who have already bought the game once or twice, no consideration of missing content like the multiplayer, just planting a full priced $70 on it like it's an original and completely unique title that didn't come out 9 years ago, wasn't remastered 8 years ago and didn't receive a 4K PS4 Pro patch 5 years ago...
I think this is Naughty Dog cementing a masterpiece in their body of work. For anyone who has not played the game, this is the best thing for them. For people who have, you can afford to wait for it to go on sale. You know what already happens. I personally am excited to play this and Part II back to back
You've done an excellent job explaining the upgraded tech/animations and how it makes TLOU1 feel different. The game looks *insane* but I hope, for the gaming landscape's sake, it is a collosal bomb. The only thing companies listen to is their wallet. I refuse to justify ND charging full price for a world we've already lived in. It's still the same characters, locations, combat scenarios and story beats, and it should be reflected in the price.
At this point I don’t even think that is a possibility, specifically due to the HBO series premiering soon. Even if at launch the game doesn’t have an explosive opening, once the series airs the sales are going to skyrocket (a la The Witcher on Netflix). Sony is incredibly good at marketing and understanding their target audiences; and this game would not have been made unless it was a near guarantee it would bring in boatloads.
Here's the thing I think a lot of People are misunderstanding, and if someone wants to let me know I'm wrong on this feel free: "Naughty Dog charging Full Price". Who prices Games... can we all think about that for a second. Cos it sure ain't the Devs.
@@akumakurosawa I don’t think this remake will lead to a RDR remake tbh. As much as I’d want a remake that’s more on Rockstar’s part and they’ve just fumbled the bag with remastering their old games already and are probably working on GTA 6 so it’s gonna be a while until they even go through with that idea
@@akumakurosawa Shadow of the Colossus was remade from the ground up, 13 years and 2 console generations apart, by a completely different team. TLOU is already available, ***for free***, on the PS5 through backwards compatibility and the PS Plus Collection for PS5 owners. They are not in the same category, imo.
Thank you again for your heartfelt commentary. As a PC gamer who has never been able to play the game, I feel it will add another level of depth to the conversation about this edition once they deliver the promised PC port.
@@JamanWerSonst the point is I'd be happy to simply play it. We don't all own playstations. And his discussion about the impact of the increased fidelity will be even more relevant.
@@JamanWerSonst yeah right, all you accountants are the same, with your spreadsheets and highlighters. I bet Papers Please is your favorite game. You don’t fool me 🧐
Whilst I appreciate your unique opinion on TLOU's fourth* version in less than a decade, I think we need to stop gauging re-releases on original merits and instead gauge them more in context. Whilst you've done this to some degree and that's WAY more than most journalists have done, the presumption is that "great game released 3 times before and it was great, therefore THIS version is at minimum, great as a baseline", so the "score" can never go down, only up. However when we're talking about a ps5 remake of a ps4pro update of a ps4 remaster of a ps3 game, the product in isolation and the product in context no longer marry up. I for one think we need to scrutinise these remasters and remakes FAR harder.
I fall into the camp that thinks the purchase price is far too unreasonable for serious consideration but this video had some great reasons why there is a market for this game. Loved the point about the horror of some of the more nuanced facial animations
@@jonathanolivas450 I bet you don't even have a PS5! LMAO so you're correct! "Broke people problems" is something that I'm sure you're very familiar with🤓
9:50 And C, it doesn't include the multiplayer mode so it actually contains less content than the original and PS4 version. I've already bought this game twice, I'm not buying it a third time for 65 quid when the multiplayer is left out.
People talk about Part 1 like future tech isnt going drastically out do PS5. There is no ray tracing, these character models will look dated in 10 years, there would even better character rigs allowing for even more expressive animations, machine learning hardware would allow for even more realistic enemy AI, so on and so forth. So, should Naughty Dog remake The Last of Us again in 10 years? Video games is a medium that is uniquely tied to technology, no video game ever has not been constrained by technology. Its about despite the current technological constraints, does the game accomplish its goals? This remake is the most redundant game Sony has ever made. Encouraging a remake of a not even 10 year old game is just irresponsible knowing this industry, knowing how money hungry it is. Cant wait for every half decent PS3 game to be remade. Who wants original new games anyways?
You clearly dont understand the power of nostolgia. I would rather play a remake of some of the best ps3 games then play a lot of new games coming out. Of course future tech will out do it one day. Thats like saying whats the point of buying a 4k tv when 8k will be a thing? Whats the point in buying a PS5 and wasting you money when the PS6 will be out in a few years?
@@TheEPICskwock So you would rather not have the same talent that worked on those PS3 games try to break new ground with more interesting games? AAA gaming is in shambles right now(TLOU1 Remake is a symptom, i.e. publishers prioritizing expensive remakes than making new experiences that help inspire new gameplay ideas and stories). Uncharted The Lost Legacy's creative director(original The Last of Us' director of photography) spent 2 years of his life to work on a Remake of a perfectly fine existing game, would you rather not have him work on his dream project so we can get something even more interesting stories than a zombie survival one? How about ND as a whole leaves this tired TLOU world behind so we can move on from this creative stagnancy at ND? You did not get my point about PS5. Games are always limited by technology, chasing some technological finale for a game is massively misguided(rather its a ploy by marketing to sell the game, just keep repeating better graphics and people will come) as its always going to become dated, such an exercise would require constant upkeep and fiddling. Its like George Lucas constantly fiddling with Episode 4, just leave it alone, with warts and all.
Enjoying it on my PS5, played the first hour last night. Been a long time since I played the Remastered and will be playing it back to back with Part 2.
Same here... Been a hot min since I played my remastered one. Pop then in last night, I was surprised on the details in this game... Brings back some good hard grinding in this game back in the day
Got my PS5 through PlayStation direct two days before this came out. With the original and Part II being my favorite pieces of media ever I was excited for this. The graphics are like going from DVD to 4k uhd quality. The gameplay is smoother and aiming feels better. Personally I feel Part 1 is worth it from the ground up graphical overhaul and the numerous accessibility and dualsense/haptic feedback options.
A lot of game reviewers that flip out over “lootbox” mechanics and micro transactions for being cash grabs are now praising The Last of Us Part 1 Remake
Not a fair comparison. Lootboxes are rightly criticised for introducing gambling mechanics into games, and can often be addictive. While I think microtransactions can be okay in F2P games, they have no place in full-price titles. The Last of Us remake probably doesn't need to exist, but you get what you pay for - a complete game as advertised, not part of a game where you have to pay yet more money to get the full experience or do something as rudimentary as give your character a new hat.
Utterly fantastic video. I love this game with all my heart and I’m glad to hear it was done justice through and through. Always great to see your coverage especially in a piece you’re so passionate on. Take care til the next one!
It’s unfortunate that Sony decided to implement their new “70 dollar native PS5” rule here. Even if the price is justified by the effort that went into making this the “definitive version” of TLOU, the price tag was always going to be an issue. 50 dollars and nobody would have said a thing. That being said, I understand that the target audience for this is the hardcore fans (like myself; the game does more than enough in my eyes to warrant a purchase) and more importantly the new comers. Those who will inevitably take up interest due to the HBO release and those who are new to the PlayStation ecosystem that missed it prior. There is too much money on the table to not charge 70 in Sony’s eyes. TLOU sold a whopping 20 million copies; but even that is in total less than a fifth of the PS4 install base, not to mention those who skipped that console or will be playing on PC. Between that and the new industry leading accessibility options I’m just happy for those who will be experiencing this amazing title for the first time, in the best possible way.
50$ is already too much for this. 30$ is arguably reasonable since it lacks improvements to gameplay and the multiplayer. But the Uncharted Remastered Collection was ported to a new engine, had new lighting, models, textures and optimizations while costing 20$ for each game(and the OG games were stuck on the PS3).
@@minecraftgravityguy a significant amount of work and additions went into making this title, well and above the uncharted remasters. This is a flagship title for Sony, and is one of the best graphical showcases available. 30 dollars is not only disingenuous but is far outside the realm of possibility. To be clear I’m not saying 70 dollars is reasonable, but given the amount of change and upgrade present (even without massive changes to gameplay) anything less than 50 dollars is basically asking for it for free; especially considering the target audience.
@@minecraftgravityguy You are incorrect in this comment Firstly 50 dollars would have been perfect for this game. 70 is way too much and other remakes or remasters have been sold for more while doing less then this remake. And the Uncharted PS5 version is a remastered that only improved on resolution and fps. NOT graphics, animations, textures, models and physics
@@sebastiankulche unfortunately my opinion on what constitutes a 70 dollar price tag doesn’t really matter; if Sony decides that it is 70 dollars and the market accepts it then it is what it is.
I had to rewatch multiple times that scene 7:43 - 7:47 because it seemed like an actor rubbing its face. Absolutely mind blowing, starting to think the uncanny valley is about to be a thing of the past
I'm not even going to buy this on sale. The price at launch is an insult. If you wait for a sale, they can still tell the shareholders "look at all these copies we are selling" and use that to justify future price gouging.
Its the same game with slightly better graphics. Maybe my opinion would change if I got a free review copy. But in the middle of a recession 70 bucks for slightly better graphics is not worth it
As I say in the video, that is a totally understandable and relatable position to take. I always try to take into account the position I'm in when it comes to review code, especially for a game as expensive as this-if it weren't for that code coming through, and even as someone who thinks The Last of Us is one of the best games ever made, I think I would have skipped this until the price came waaaay down.
@@darkestnuke Not to speak for others, but I imagine I'm not alone in this. When you buy something for yourself, that's money that is just _gone_ when it could have been saved for a rainy day or just gone to something else, so you're always judging the value of that purchase relative to other things you could have spent the same cash on. If you got it for free, that factor doesn't really come into play anymore. It's kind of like when you make a sandwich for yourself it can be good, but from someone else and at no cost, it's even better. And just to cover this base too: As much as games are art and should be judged as such, they're also still experiences that we pay for, so the money factor coming in to reviews is something I don't see as bad either. It's just realistic as far as I'm concerned.
That is such a strange concept to me. I can understand someone saying "Yeah, I don't see much value here for the price. I'm going to hold off and wait for a sale". That makes sense to me. What I want to know, and correct me if I'm misrepresenting the argument, is why would someone see the game itself as being better or worse depending on what they paid for it? It's the same game no matter what the price is.
@@darkestnuke It's not judging the game itself, it's judging the overall worth of the money spent which leads in some way or another to an alteration of one's attitude to the game. Being free of that cost-judgement keeps your attitude from being altered, due to it no longer factoring into the overall experience of consuming/having consumed the media. The game itself is in fact the same, you're _absolutely_ right. But the _experience_ is altered and actually different. Most often altered by the producers of the game who dictate the price, though sometimes it's just a matter of having gotten it as a gift. Either way though, it's an altered experience because we judge these things based on the value of including them in our lives, while price point or free reception do play some part in that judgement. Even if how much of a part it plays varies from person to person. Hopefully that clarifies things
70$ is no price for a videogame. Much less in the current state of the world. 40$ is very pricey for a remaster (one that includes everything that game had to offer and it’s dlcs and expansions, that maintains or improves on optimization and performance, and this has been industry standard and I don’t give a shit how greedy Sony and ND wants to be they can f*ck right off), 70$ is beyond unacceptable and pretending it is is dissapointing and pathetic. It was pathetic when EA, Activision and T2 (and Sony too) did it before, it’s getting worse now. The previous TLoU Remaster had an upgrade path and the Uncharted TRILOGY of games remade in the Bluepoint engine that improved models, lighting, texture, optimization and performance that was stuck on the PS3 EXCLUSIVELY cost at most 60$ in TOTAL. And this version doesn’t even have the online because it could compete with their next game and they are scared and lazy to put the resources to make it available again like they know they should, especially for a new release version, even worse since it’s the only version that will be officially available and optimized for PC! And the excuse it’s worth it for those who never played the game before is even more moronic because the game is more dated and has less content than ever before while being at it’s most inaccessible for being exclusive for PS5 and clearly not being accessible to anything lower than high-end PCs when it launches at some point hopefully(?). It’s terrible and bad when Nintendo does it to the 3D All-Stars Collection and Zelda Skyward Sword for Switch and Twilight Princess and Windwaker HD but Sony and ND get a pass? Vote with your wallets, don’t buy it even when in sale because this greed is what drives this industry to be as greedy, exploitative and shitty for consumers as it is! Btw Check out other real Remakes if you want to know what a remake should look like, not a glorified remaster with a name only there for marketing reasons that pisses on the reputation that both Naughty Dog and Sony Studios had for themselves. Pretty graphics =/= Worth our money.
But in the past there has been PLENTY of 60 dollars “remasters” that barley changed anything form the original game. Like loads of Nintendo’s re-releases, Skyrim remaster and Batman Arkham remasters
I feel like the Remake has a very different vibe, like a ton of environments are just darker for no reason and they lack that apocalyptic feel of the original. I have no problem with it personally but many do from what I’ve seen.
I will say as far ahead in facial animation as Sony games and Rockstar is, CDPR is definitely giving them all a run for their money with cyberpunk as well. Although even Ragnarok was better than anything before so they are behind again but not by far.
As far as I'm concerned, writing, directing and acting in TLOU are where it's at. Graphical fidelity is nice but I never played the game thinking "it's nice but if only it looked better then it'd be really good". It can be good for first time comer who only have part 2 as a comparison point. I've often seen people disparage graphics in games less than 10 years old as being "dated" it's kinda depressing but that's how it is. Still pricy though, it's more expensive than the remake when I bought it and it has less content. Thinking about the newcomers, I would have added a spoiler warning to keep "that scene" completely fresh for them.
I think that's exactly why the new graphics don't phase me. I just never enjoyed the game because of graphics. I just felt like the story was refreshing and characters were extremely likeable & relatable. Aside from the more expressive faces, I just do not find value in this new one. Also changing the facial structure of most characters, is not a plus for me. It is almost like new people with many of redesigns characters. I think Bill and David look great but Ellie used to look more unique but... I guess, it is to say. This game is not for us, the core fans. Who enjoyed the original for what it was, a beautiful game in the chaos of the world.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef Not for $70. Joel can’t go prone or melee dodge and while the enemies have improved A.I, they didn’t revamp any of the combat arenas to accommodate the improved A.I. Also if this is a “remake” they had to have known nobody liked the ladder and pallet puzzles, why are they still here?
the game its pretty much a ps3 game with ps5 graphics with ps5 accesibility options at the price a of a new AAA ps5 game, i will eventually play it when it hits ps plus.
This is the video game equivalent of colorizing Citizen Kane. Sure, colour is more technically advanced than black and white, but being in black and white was part of the art's identity. The original PS3 look of The Last Of Us may not look modern anymore, but it was the original look of the art and therefore has value, unlike this PS5 version which too will look old years from now, but unlike the original, lacks the historic and cultural significance. It is a worthless product.
I don't see how a better version of something can just be dismissed as worthless. Also for clarity I've never even been able to enjoy these games personally so this isn't fanboyism clouding my judgement or me going on the defense for a game I never really cared about. I just genuinely don't see how a product being improved can make it worse. I don't think it's right to devalue art based on it being iterative as opposed to static and fixed. The originals of an iterated project will obviously have more historical value, but that has no bearing on the worth of a media/artistic experience.
@@PhyreI3ird the main point, i believe, it's the price for what's been sold (in a way) as a "new" experience, just for having improved visuals. They kept pointing that it feels different, that it was rebuilt from the ground up, them the comparisons came and side by side, we can see the same skeleton under the new code of paint. The new, more realistic version will improve in many areas, definitely, but the limitations of old are a testament of the craftsmanship that was done to get the old game looking as good as it did. It is clear, to me at least, that part of the original "vision" is lost with this transition, with models being completely different from their original counterparts.
@@Indigo_1001 a 4k hd release would only change the resolution. The analogy of a colorized citizen kane, as to many it would "improve" the original, it's much more fitting.
"The Last F Us" on the thumbnail really cements my feelings on how I feel this remake is a bit redundant, but oh well. I really think they remade this to enshrine the legacy of the first game and at the same time, deflect some of the criticism of how unpopular the second entry is.
I haven’t played the game since the remaster debuted one the ps4. So this to me will be almost like playing it for the first time. At least in terms of experiencing the story and gameplay. After replaying part two upgraded for the ps5, I’m so excited for this remake.
The Last of Us suffers from very outdated gameplay. Part 2 changed more than just adding a dodge that barely works and a semi-useless prone; it overhauled the core gameplay entirely by making your player character move seamlessly as you control them. By comparison, Part 1 plays like a PS3 game. It desperately needed a gameplay update, and they didn't give it one.
While i agree the character detail and animation is much better i have a hard time saying the game overall looks any much better than the ps3/4 version. During gameplay some sections just look strange, almost uncanny or overly sterile. In some cutscenes I think the 'visual upgrade' simply doesnt work because you'll have hyper detailed faces that models seem to change when theres a cut. Some individual cutscenes have this strange quality where it seems like a lot of focus went into one characters animation but not the other so much so the characters look literally out of place and its jarring to have some of the character models seemingly morph depending on how close you are to them in some cutscenes. This could be owed to me only seeing these through streams/youtube compression but idk its like there was a change in art style/direction that took away from the objecively improved textures/polycount yadada.
I think you're wrong about the game being even more emotionally impactful because of the updated facial expressions. Because that would be like saying that an old game like final fantasy 7 on ps1 wouldn't evoke the same emotions. A whole generation of gamers would disagree with that.
I have that kind of bad luck that I never really get to play the original games. I never played GTA 1 (started with 3), never played TLOU retail PS3 (started with the PS4 Remaster), never played Quake 1 (started with Counter-Strike), never played Unreal Tournament (both the very first and 1999, started with Unreal 1 and UT 2004), never played Tekken 1 on PS1 (started with 3), and the list goes on and on and on. The only game I really remember playing as the definitive first title was Half Life - after I played through HL2. Is that just my life now? lmao
I’d rather pay full price for a brand new game/story like God of War Ragnarok. I won’t argue the masterpiece that last of us is but the asking price for this remake makes it only a recommendation for first time players or those that will come after the HBO series which is great for them but this could’ve been an EASY recommendation to EVERYONE if the asking price from Sony/Naughty Dog was $40 or $50. This remake looks awesome but improved graphics and mainly quality of life improvements don’t justify a full game price of $70.
You know how you could fundamentally and posityvely change it? If you added Dodge & Crawl for one thing. Or how about amplyfying the areas lke in 2, no that would've required real 70 $ effort (80 euros here in europe, thanks). The thing that buffles me is still how just the graphics and some adjustment alone are enough to justify a second buy at day one, you're still endorsing this industry into this remake remaster direction
I have now ostensibly played through this story four times: first with TLoU Remastered on PS4, then a replay just a few months later, then another replay in preparation for TLoU 2, and now with Part 1 on PS5. And I couldn't agree more - the emotional moments hit harder than they have since that very initial playthrough
For me this immediately begs the question: how realistic do we really want our games to get? How much more realistic can we make the performance of these actions before games simply become unpleasant to experience? Especially true once fidelity of this level hits VR games. I began to feel a bit of this set in when playing TLOU 2. I gather that this was at least partly the intention of naughty dog with that game (although I question whether that was really effective, etc, but that's an entirely separate discussion). Feel like we're in for some weird times
It “raises the question”. Begging the question is a specific philosophical fallacy. Sorry, that’s just a pet peeve of mine lol To your actual point, I agree, the realism is not only more disturbing, but it’s continually more desensitizing to real world events.
Another problem is that graphics that target photorealism will inevitably age. The original Last of Us and Uncharted 1-3 went for a more “stylised realism” which might actually age more gracefully in the long run.
I'll wait for it to go on sale, but I love the original version too much to ignore it, especially after this video. That said, I have played the original and also bought the remaster, so I'm in no particular rush to buy it again. Well that, and I still need to get my hands on a PS5.
I could maybe understand the price tag if it took the sequels mechanics and brought them into the original but it’s essentially the same game as the original and while we’re talking about the last of us in general I just don’t see why some people splooge over this game so much when I first played it on the ps3 I remember being attached to its lead characters and impressed by it visceral looking hand to hand combat and overall visuals but I have to say I think other games have hit similar beats just as well if not better the RDR games for example go toe to toe with the last of us but surpass it in terms of scope or how bout the original Nier? well it certainly can’t stack up on a technical level it has its own story of a dad in a crapsack willing to do whatever it takes to save his child all while having that blend of strangeness and sincerity that Japanese games often have
i just purchased it. played TLOU multiple times before and TLOU2. i’ve been playing this for about an hour or so and i can confidently say if you have the money and a ps5 TO BUY THIS. it’s stunningly beautiful and the new mechanics are very well designed. plus you don’t need to beat the game to access survivor and grounded difficulty it’s already available from your first playthrough. it’s very fun playing it rn.
I wish I can get decent incomes from a job in honesty with all of the economic turbulences, but living in many parts of Indonesia is just gruelling, even after 7 years I still haven't changed my laptop because of barely able to paying the bills but even there's still creeping debts here and there on top of tragedies happening with no costs recuperations or anything after all these years, let alone having playstation 5 or buying rereleases of 9 year old game Perhaps finishing my own life is a better option instead of stuck between rock and a hard place without having neither the wits nor brawn nor connections nor experiences nor portfolios for it
I bought the original and completed it when it first came out. I bought the remaster for PS4 when it came out, and beat it again at that time. And I recently bought the PS5 remake and beat it for the third time. And I considered it money well-spent every time.
I got the game for free and the game looks prettier. Naughty Dog isn't paying me to convince you that paying full price for this ridiculous remake is worth the money. There, I just saved you 10 minutes. Writing On Games is a fantastic channel and I watch a lot of their videos, but this remake is still overpriced unless you get video games for free.
Yeah everything about this screamed "review copy I've been given by the makers so I better say nice things". WoG videos are always great but I can't get behind this one.
@@SkarrGaming There are other reviews of the remake that got a early review copy that were way more negative. Yong Yea and Skill Up both did negative reviews on Part 2 and BOTH still get early review copies form Sony. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, people legitimately like these games, and aren’t forced to say they do?
You’ve definitely convinced me that I need to experience TLoUP1 when I can afford it. Boutique product is a good way to describe it, I think you nailed it with that designation.
Don't fall for what he's saying, the game is almost the same as the PS4 version and it's not worth 70 dollars at all, I think if you already played the old version it's not worth buying this one, but if you still want to buy it I think you should wait for a big price drop (like 40 dollars or even 50)
I feel like the opening would've been more powerfully illustrated by playing the scene where Ellie jumps off the trailer with Henry to stand with Joel when the hunters in the tank truck plow through the doors shooting at them. The kind of loyalty that abandons all hope of immediate survival to stand by somebody you love, facing guaranteed death. No other event in either game comes close to showing us exactly what kind of person Ellie is, and how far she will go, even sacrificing everything so Joel doesn't die alone.
@@Indigo_1001 They did change the gameplay of Demon Souls. Shocking the amount of people defending sony's horrible business decisions, you'd aware they were making commission lol.
has nothing to do with TLOU but... I love you and your work, buddy. (we know you struggle with some things. hopefully this gives you at least a smile and makes you feel good for a second...instead of creeping you out hahaha)
I hope this game makes people get interested in Part III again, Im thinking maybe they wanted Abby to be a protagonist, but because of the backlash, it will probably be a secondary character now, though important
Realistically, the improved graphics will not notably change the experience. It looks great, but it's absolutely not worth the money. This is coming from a guy who's beaten the game twice on the PS3 original, and twice on the PS4 version. A hard playthrough followed by a grounded playthrough on both consoles. Sony screwed up big time with TLoU2, so this is a desperate cash grab because they know that a huge chunk of former fans are not coming back. What an insult from Naughty Dog. Which is becoming the norm for their releases now.
Imma be frank i looked at all the footage u shown and it did not impress me, I expected to look more like part 2 for the 70 dollar price tag. It still looks like an early ps4 game at best
It’s ok when you aim the guns you get the adaptive triggers but it’s also meant to be when you shoot the gun and that’s not a thing in this game how can they mess a simple thing up
I was happy with it on ps3 to be honest. Played the ps4 version 3 times, on ps5 too. I don’t need it looking better. I need them not to ruin all the characters, and crap all over the ambiguity of the ending, by what they did in tlou2.
No, it’s fundamentally the same game, just made a little bit graphically improved. The story ends the same, it’s the same game it just costs $70 now. It remains a remake of a remaster.
What do you expected them to do? Change the story just cause? Also, the 2014 remaster looks IDENTICAL to the original game, it was just a fps and resolution boost. The characters, textures and lighting were untouched
@@Indigo_1001 They literally advertised this as a “remake.” Remakes add things or completely overhaul level design and gameplay to where it feels like a different game. This is the exact same game with prettier graphics. None of this is inherently bad but $70 is gross as shit.
The way I viewed this whole thing is imagine your favorite movie got a big 4K blu ray release. You already own that movie but this is arguably the definitive way to view it, the hardcore fans will pick it up. I'm one of those fans but because of the titles for the rest of the year I'll probably wait a bit longer.
I don’t know, it seems more like going from bluray 1080p to bluray 4k. Doesn’t really warrant spending the extra money in my opinion. The game is not even that old, and still looks great.
@@brando3342 that’s basically what I mean. Most people that get the 4K blu ray of the same movie are hardcore fans, not all but some. If people think it’s too much money, that’s fine. If people think it’s worth the money, that’s fine.
@@KillianC1C2 I mean, it's kind of hard to argue with your middle of the road stance, so good on you for that lol I just wish people wouldn't pay that much for it, because it sets a precedent.
@@brando3342 Come on now. The game does only go from 1080p to 4k, but a bluray does not get an upgrade to animations, lighting, textures, physics… I don’t think the comparison holds at all.
I just remember hating this game when I played it. I think it felt uncanny to me, as most games striving for realism without much of a stylized approach always did back then. I wasn't blind to the qualities everyone loved about it, it's just to me it felt like a clunky game wrapped in the skin of a pretty well written bad CGI movie, something that would have registered if it were being delivered by actual actors that could fully convey intended nuances of expression. I bought the remastered after playing Part II and was just as put off that many years later. Everything I'm hearing about this remake has me interested. I'm pretty convinced this remake is for people like me, who weren't as impressed with the execution of the tantalizing concepts that were promised as most people.
I still fundamentally dislike this remake, as it clothes the original I so loved in the visual language and art design of the sequel I found such a disappointing, hollow, pretentious endeavour that falls completely flat. On top of that ridiculous asking price. I loathe how established gamejournalism is rating this so highly while being mostly a graphical enhancement: they are effectively rating it for the same game it was all those years ago. Yet now that rating carries the added context of "yes, light-ish remakes of this nature carry our stamp of approval and high praise, and at this pricepoint to boot. Carry on." That is a dangerous precedent to condone in such a money hungry industry, one that has already demonstrated the depths of greed it can stoop to. Yet you raise interesting points where it pertains to graphical and technical enhancements that can heighten the experience even more. I wholeheartedly agree, it looks so well done. I absolutely dislike the narrative of TLoU2, but I loved the audiovisual achievements, and here it's no different. They really are simply stunning. The improved gameplay also was quite engaging, and it's a shame it wasn't introduced in the remake. It definitely would've helped support that pricepoint more. All it really leaves me with in the end is just bitter disappointment and reminiscing on what could've been would the art design be more in line with TLoU. Think of the bleak cinematography, where TLoU was more colorful and hopeful, and above all those damn character designs. I know, it may seem a very petty thing, but this is a character drive game. And you wouldn't like seeing your favourite characters designed in odd ways, would you? Those are not the Ellie and Joel I came to know, they look completely different, wackier and worse for it -- same for Tess, less importantly so. Though one wonders if any of this was ever a problem if TLoU2 was absolute narrative gold and didn't leave such a bad taste; that taste, the visual language and art design that one associates with it, taints everything going forward for those that were disappointed. And this remake proves it. I just hope that whatever Naughty Dog has coming up will be as good (narratively) as I've known them in the past.
I played and love the first The Last of us and I didn’t cared that much for Part 2 But this comment is just so over dramatic and being overly sensitive over pointless stuff. The remake looks better regardless if it used the same engine of another game I wasn’t a fan of. And I even liked the changes in character design on most characters in the remake Also, you want all reviewers to focus on the 70 price tag? What happens when the game does down on sale or is available on the PS subscriptions? Wouldn’t those reviews feel dated if they focuses too much on the launch price?
Lambhoot did a video on Resident Evil 4 VR a while back, right? I'm getting those same vibes from this, discussion on a new version of a game that, if you're really into the original material, makes it seem like a completely new and expanded experience that's practically required just for those little touches. But if you're anyone else, it won't really change your perspective. Also everyone go subscribe to Lambhoot. You'll be told to do so again at the end of the year anyways.
I'm inclined to pick this up second hand a year or so down the line when Sony makes a cheaper PS5 or one with more than a termite's cheeks worth of storage. I played the OG back on the PS Triple and loved it, so I missed the PS4 version out because I didn't think the upgrade was worth it. Now we have a new version realised from the ground up on fundamentally better hardware, I think that does make for a genuinely compelling case to buy the newer version and try it again. Just not for £65. Stray costs like £30 and is one of the most impressive games this generation so far - against that price and that quality of experience, everything else is a REALLY hard sell.
It was a tech masterpiece back then but it is one of the most overrated stories ever. Its so generic and predictable and for some reason everyone pretends that there was some epic twist. It should have been obvious from first 10 minutes after Ellie shows up what the ending would likely be
this really does sound like the dude who watched breaking bad, and fell in a rabbit hole about how "the fly" is a great episode. then calls it a masterpiece and the most important episode ever lol.
@@amysteriousviewer3772 yeah lmao i was definitely too young to care when BrBa came out, i think i'd heard about it around when a chunk of the fanbase was still in kind of a "skylar bad walt badass, i'm just like rick sanchez" phase. it's only now that BCS is over that i'm actually tempted to look into how those stories of personal tragedies unfold. i mean i'm a star wars prequels fan ffs, i'll gladly check out how a down-on-his-luck hardworking wifeguy slowly descends into darker and darker actions while his complicated relationship with his brother deteriorates into devastating loss and heinous deeds... especially that final note of tentative recompense at the end👏
I think the facial animations played a big part in TLOU Part 2 too. Towards the end, when Ellie chases Abby down, you really don't want to play the game anymore. You've seen enough death by that point that killing anymore is uncomfortable. It becomes a laborious task, and the facial animation of humans struggling was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Not gonna lie, I might consider buying my first console for that game and its experience with the new controller, i already plan a new large TV for my living room, so might as well go for PS5
I will not agree with you on the dual sense implementation it’s some of the worst most lackluster they should look at any other game and take notes as every ps5 game does it better
I can't wait until the pc port is released and I can just boot up and play a little bit of the best piece of media ever created instead of doing homework.
I don't think it is possible to have the same kind of impact (or a bigger one) just because it has visual upgrades, when we already know what's going to happen.
For someone that never played it, definitely, it is the perfect moment for them to experience it.
i think that's their main target audience, since its also great for the people who will want to play the game due to the hbo show, that way they can have the same visual quality between both games
Except for the lack of Multiplayer, and the 70$ price tag, oh and PS5 exclusivity, and who could forget PS3 gameplay with no improvements!
@@minecraftgravityguy I mean its on PC too, so it's generally available to an entire part of the gaming community that never got to experience it for NINE YEARS.
@@minecraftgravityguy oh no it won't be on xbox the horror
It's like watching a movie that was in black and white now in "living color". Sure, it's visually a pretty big change, however you know exactly what's going to happen and the company wants to charge you more than you've ever paid for this particular experience. No upgrade options for people who have already bought the game once or twice, no consideration of missing content like the multiplayer, just planting a full priced $70 on it like it's an original and completely unique title that didn't come out 9 years ago, wasn't remastered 8 years ago and didn't receive a 4K PS4 Pro patch 5 years ago...
I think this is Naughty Dog cementing a masterpiece in their body of work. For anyone who has not played the game, this is the best thing for them. For people who have, you can afford to wait for it to go on sale. You know what already happens. I personally am excited to play this and Part II back to back
I’m gonna play both games back to back too
BioWare did the same thing with mass effect, for 3 games 40 dlc and it’s cheaper then this.
I'd stick with just the game with the good story and leave out the crap one, personally. Also I could just replay my PS3 or PS4 versions.
@@Poet482 I’ll stick with both games that both have good stories
Uglier versions of the characters? No thanks.
You've done an excellent job explaining the upgraded tech/animations and how it makes TLOU1 feel different. The game looks *insane* but I hope, for the gaming landscape's sake, it is a collosal bomb.
The only thing companies listen to is their wallet. I refuse to justify ND charging full price for a world we've already lived in. It's still the same characters, locations, combat scenarios and story beats, and it should be reflected in the price.
At this point I don’t even think that is a possibility, specifically due to the HBO series premiering soon. Even if at launch the game doesn’t have an explosive opening, once the series airs the sales are going to skyrocket (a la The Witcher on Netflix).
Sony is incredibly good at marketing and understanding their target audiences; and this game would not have been made unless it was a near guarantee it would bring in boatloads.
Here's the thing I think a lot of People are misunderstanding, and if someone wants to let me know I'm wrong on this feel free:
"Naughty Dog charging Full Price".
Who prices Games... can we all think about that for a second. Cos it sure ain't the Devs.
@@akumakurosawa I don’t think this remake will lead to a RDR remake tbh. As much as I’d want a remake that’s more on Rockstar’s part and they’ve just fumbled the bag with remastering their old games already and are probably working on GTA 6 so it’s gonna be a while until they even go through with that idea
It’s already a colossal success for Sony. The physical editions sold out within minutes of becoming available.
@@akumakurosawa Shadow of the Colossus was remade from the ground up, 13 years and 2 console generations apart, by a completely different team. TLOU is already available, ***for free***, on the PS5 through backwards compatibility and the PS Plus Collection for PS5 owners. They are not in the same category, imo.
Thank you again for your heartfelt commentary. As a PC gamer who has never been able to play the game, I feel it will add another level of depth to the conversation about this edition once they deliver the promised PC port.
Can't wait to play as Kermit the Frog.
@@JamanWerSonst the point is I'd be happy to simply play it. We don't all own playstations. And his discussion about the impact of the increased fidelity will be even more relevant.
@@Monkeypuzzle It was just a joke. No intention to talk down the PC version.
@@JamanWerSonst yeah right, all you accountants are the same, with your spreadsheets and highlighters. I bet Papers Please is your favorite game. You don’t fool me 🧐
Are we not gonna talk about how uncanny this shit looks 😂
You didn't remember the painting restoration rooms - because they are new. They were empty before.
Whilst I appreciate your unique opinion on TLOU's fourth* version in less than a decade, I think we need to stop gauging re-releases on original merits and instead gauge them more in context. Whilst you've done this to some degree and that's WAY more than most journalists have done, the presumption is that "great game released 3 times before and it was great, therefore THIS version is at minimum, great as a baseline", so the "score" can never go down, only up.
However when we're talking about a ps5 remake of a ps4pro update of a ps4 remaster of a ps3 game, the product in isolation and the product in context no longer marry up.
I for one think we need to scrutinise these remasters and remakes FAR harder.
I agree 100%
What's the other 3 versions? I thought there was only original and remastered.
@@Jozombies115 wasn't there the PS4 pro version? Or was that just an update?
@@jasonalv7436 Update
@@Jozombies115 PS3 original, ps4 remaster, PS4 Pro Graphics Update, PS5 remake :)
I'll wait for TLoU Part 1 Remastered, thanks.
I fall into the camp that thinks the purchase price is far too unreasonable for serious consideration but this video had some great reasons why there is a market for this game. Loved the point about the horror of some of the more nuanced facial animations
Broke people problems
@@jonathanolivas450 nah smart people decisions
There is no "factions" so it's definitely not worth $70.00!
@@jonathanolivas450 I bet you don't even have a PS5! LMAO so you're correct! "Broke people problems" is something that I'm sure you're very familiar with🤓
@@brendenhassler4613 pinch a nerve did I ?
I find it funny how unintentionally in the thumbnail you can read "The Last F Us" which would be a reference to its $70 price tag
An utterly vital masterpiece ? Wow mate, I don't know about that...
Charging full price for a re release of a crap movie non-game is ridiculous on its face. There is no defense for this trash
9:50 And C, it doesn't include the multiplayer mode so it actually contains less content than the original and PS4 version.
I've already bought this game twice, I'm not buying it a third time for 65 quid when the multiplayer is left out.
People talk about Part 1 like future tech isnt going drastically out do PS5. There is no ray tracing, these character models will look dated in 10 years, there would even better character rigs allowing for even more expressive animations, machine learning hardware would allow for even more realistic enemy AI, so on and so forth. So, should Naughty Dog remake The Last of Us again in 10 years? Video games is a medium that is uniquely tied to technology, no video game ever has not been constrained by technology. Its about despite the current technological constraints, does the game accomplish its goals? This remake is the most redundant game Sony has ever made.
Encouraging a remake of a not even 10 year old game is just irresponsible knowing this industry, knowing how money hungry it is. Cant wait for every half decent PS3 game to be remade. Who wants original new games anyways?
You clearly dont understand the power of nostolgia. I would rather play a remake of some of the best ps3 games then play a lot of new games coming out. Of course future tech will out do it one day. Thats like saying whats the point of buying a 4k tv when 8k will be a thing? Whats the point in buying a PS5 and wasting you money when the PS6 will be out in a few years?
@@TheEPICskwock So you would rather not have the same talent that worked on those PS3 games try to break new ground with more interesting games? AAA gaming is in shambles right now(TLOU1 Remake is a symptom, i.e. publishers prioritizing expensive remakes than making new experiences that help inspire new gameplay ideas and stories).
Uncharted The Lost Legacy's creative director(original The Last of Us' director of photography) spent 2 years of his life to work on a Remake of a perfectly fine existing game, would you rather not have him work on his dream project so we can get something even more interesting stories than a zombie survival one? How about ND as a whole leaves this tired TLOU world behind so we can move on from this creative stagnancy at ND?
You did not get my point about PS5. Games are always limited by technology, chasing some technological finale for a game is massively misguided(rather its a ploy by marketing to sell the game, just keep repeating better graphics and people will come) as its always going to become dated, such an exercise would require constant upkeep and fiddling. Its like George Lucas constantly fiddling with Episode 4, just leave it alone, with warts and all.
Enjoying it on my PS5, played the first hour last night. Been a long time since I played the Remastered and will be playing it back to back with Part 2.
Same here... Been a hot min since I played my remastered one. Pop then in last night, I was surprised on the details in this game... Brings back some good hard grinding in this game back in the day
Got my PS5 through PlayStation direct two days before this came out. With the original and Part II being my favorite pieces of media ever I was excited for this. The graphics are like going from DVD to 4k uhd quality. The gameplay is smoother and aiming feels better. Personally I feel Part 1 is worth it from the ground up graphical overhaul and the numerous accessibility and dualsense/haptic feedback options.
A lot of game reviewers that flip out over “lootbox” mechanics and micro transactions for being cash grabs are now praising The Last of Us Part 1 Remake
Not a fair comparison. Lootboxes are rightly criticised for introducing gambling mechanics into games, and can often be addictive. While I think microtransactions can be okay in F2P games, they have no place in full-price titles. The Last of Us remake probably doesn't need to exist, but you get what you pay for - a complete game as advertised, not part of a game where you have to pay yet more money to get the full experience or do something as rudimentary as give your character a new hat.
Utterly fantastic video. I love this game with all my heart and I’m glad to hear it was done justice through and through. Always great to see your coverage especially in a piece you’re so passionate on. Take care til the next one!
I beat it over the weekend it came out the game is a masterpiece & truly one of the top 5/10 games of all time!
This wouldn't be worth 70 if it was a completely new game. That price tag is absurd and all the more for a graphics upgrade of an old game.
It’s unfortunate that Sony decided to implement their new “70 dollar native PS5” rule here. Even if the price is justified by the effort that went into making this the “definitive version” of TLOU, the price tag was always going to be an issue. 50 dollars and nobody would have said a thing.
That being said, I understand that the target audience for this is the hardcore fans (like myself; the game does more than enough in my eyes to warrant a purchase) and more importantly the new comers. Those who will inevitably take up interest due to the HBO release and those who are new to the PlayStation ecosystem that missed it prior. There is too much money on the table to not charge 70 in Sony’s eyes.
TLOU sold a whopping 20 million copies; but even that is in total less than a fifth of the PS4 install base, not to mention those who skipped that console or will be playing on PC. Between that and the new industry leading accessibility options I’m just happy for those who will be experiencing this amazing title for the first time, in the best possible way.
50$ is already too much for this. 30$ is arguably reasonable since it lacks improvements to gameplay and the multiplayer. But the Uncharted Remastered Collection was ported to a new engine, had new lighting, models, textures and optimizations while costing 20$ for each game(and the OG games were stuck on the PS3).
@@minecraftgravityguy a significant amount of work and additions went into making this title, well and above the uncharted remasters. This is a flagship title for Sony, and is one of the best graphical showcases available. 30 dollars is not only disingenuous but is far outside the realm of possibility.
To be clear I’m not saying 70 dollars is reasonable, but given the amount of change and upgrade present (even without massive changes to gameplay) anything less than 50 dollars is basically asking for it for free; especially considering the target audience.
@@minecraftgravityguy
You are incorrect in this comment
Firstly 50 dollars would have been perfect for this game. 70 is way too much and other remakes or remasters have been sold for more while doing less then this remake.
And the Uncharted PS5 version is a remastered that only improved on resolution and fps. NOT graphics, animations, textures, models and physics
Tell me what PS5 game is worth that price. No one.
@@sebastiankulche unfortunately my opinion on what constitutes a 70 dollar price tag doesn’t really matter; if Sony decides that it is 70 dollars and the market accepts it then it is what it is.
I had to rewatch multiple times that scene 7:43 - 7:47 because it seemed like an actor rubbing its face. Absolutely mind blowing, starting to think the uncanny valley is about to be a thing of the past
no reason to give naughty dog any of my money.
You said £65 it is actually £70 as £65 is for physical disc, If you have the anti consumer all digital PS5 it is £70 🤢🤮🤮
I'm really excited to play this, but you're correct about the price tag. I'll wait until it goes to ~$40-$50 which I expect to not take too long.
I'm not even going to buy this on sale. The price at launch is an insult. If you wait for a sale, they can still tell the shareholders "look at all these copies we are selling" and use that to justify future price gouging.
If all I’m getting from this is just updated graphics with literally nothing else changed, I might as well watch someone else play it
Its the same game with slightly better graphics. Maybe my opinion would change if I got a free review copy. But in the middle of a recession 70 bucks for slightly better graphics is not worth it
As I say in the video, that is a totally understandable and relatable position to take. I always try to take into account the position I'm in when it comes to review code, especially for a game as expensive as this-if it weren't for that code coming through, and even as someone who thinks The Last of Us is one of the best games ever made, I think I would have skipped this until the price came waaaay down.
Why would your opinion change if you got a free copy?
@@darkestnuke Not to speak for others, but I imagine I'm not alone in this. When you buy something for yourself, that's money that is just _gone_ when it could have been saved for a rainy day or just gone to something else, so you're always judging the value of that purchase relative to other things you could have spent the same cash on. If you got it for free, that factor doesn't really come into play anymore. It's kind of like when you make a sandwich for yourself it can be good, but from someone else and at no cost, it's even better.
And just to cover this base too: As much as games are art and should be judged as such, they're also still experiences that we pay for, so the money factor coming in to reviews is something I don't see as bad either. It's just realistic as far as I'm concerned.
That is such a strange concept to me. I can understand someone saying "Yeah, I don't see much value here for the price. I'm going to hold off and wait for a sale". That makes sense to me. What I want to know, and correct me if I'm misrepresenting the argument, is why would someone see the game itself as being better or worse depending on what they paid for it? It's the same game no matter what the price is.
@@darkestnuke It's not judging the game itself, it's judging the overall worth of the money spent which leads in some way or another to an alteration of one's attitude to the game.
Being free of that cost-judgement keeps your attitude from being altered, due to it no longer factoring into the overall experience of consuming/having consumed the media.
The game itself is in fact the same, you're _absolutely_ right. But the _experience_ is altered and actually different. Most often altered by the producers of the game who dictate the price, though sometimes it's just a matter of having gotten it as a gift.
Either way though, it's an altered experience because we judge these things based on the value of including them in our lives, while price point or free reception do play some part in that judgement. Even if how much of a part it plays varies from person to person.
Hopefully that clarifies things
70$ is no price for a videogame. Much less in the current state of the world. 40$ is very pricey for a remaster (one that includes everything that game had to offer and it’s dlcs and expansions, that maintains or improves on optimization and performance, and this has been industry standard and I don’t give a shit how greedy Sony and ND wants to be they can f*ck right off), 70$ is beyond unacceptable and pretending it is is dissapointing and pathetic. It was pathetic when EA, Activision and T2 (and Sony too) did it before, it’s getting worse now. The previous TLoU Remaster had an upgrade path and the Uncharted TRILOGY of games remade in the Bluepoint engine that improved models, lighting, texture, optimization and performance that was stuck on the PS3 EXCLUSIVELY cost at most 60$ in TOTAL. And this version doesn’t even have the online because it could compete with their next game and they are scared and lazy to put the resources to make it available again like they know they should, especially for a new release version, even worse since it’s the only version that will be officially available and optimized for PC! And the excuse it’s worth it for those who never played the game before is even more moronic because the game is more dated and has less content than ever before while being at it’s most inaccessible for being exclusive for PS5 and clearly not being accessible to anything lower than high-end PCs when it launches at some point hopefully(?). It’s terrible and bad when Nintendo does it to the 3D All-Stars Collection and Zelda Skyward Sword for Switch and Twilight Princess and Windwaker HD but Sony and ND get a pass?
Vote with your wallets, don’t buy it even when in sale because this greed is what drives this industry to be as greedy, exploitative and shitty for consumers as it is! Btw Check out other real Remakes if you want to know what a remake should look like, not a glorified remaster with a name only there for marketing reasons that pisses on the reputation that both Naughty Dog and Sony Studios had for themselves. Pretty graphics =/= Worth our money.
But in the past there has been PLENTY of 60 dollars “remasters” that barley changed anything form the original game.
Like loads of Nintendo’s re-releases, Skyrim remaster and Batman Arkham remasters
I feel like the Remake has a very different vibe, like a ton of environments are just darker for no reason and they lack that apocalyptic feel of the original. I have no problem with it personally but many do from what I’ve seen.
I will say as far ahead in facial animation as Sony games and Rockstar is, CDPR is definitely giving them all a run for their money with cyberpunk as well. Although even Ragnarok was better than anything before so they are behind again but not by far.
As far as I'm concerned, writing, directing and acting in TLOU are where it's at. Graphical fidelity is nice but I never played the game thinking "it's nice but if only it looked better then it'd be really good".
It can be good for first time comer who only have part 2 as a comparison point. I've often seen people disparage graphics in games less than 10 years old as being "dated" it's kinda depressing but that's how it is.
Still pricy though, it's more expensive than the remake when I bought it and it has less content.
Thinking about the newcomers, I would have added a spoiler warning to keep "that scene" completely fresh for them.
I think that's exactly why the new graphics don't phase me. I just never enjoyed the game because of graphics. I just felt like the story was refreshing and characters were extremely likeable & relatable.
Aside from the more expressive faces, I just do not find value in this new one. Also changing the facial structure of most characters, is not a plus for me. It is almost like new people with many of redesigns characters. I think Bill and David look great but Ellie used to look more unique but...
I guess, it is to say. This game is not for us, the core fans. Who enjoyed the original for what it was, a beautiful game in the chaos of the world.
@@oneyplayes465 Perhaps but the gameplay improvements make it a very attractive buy for me.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef Not for $70. Joel can’t go prone or melee dodge and while the enemies have improved A.I, they didn’t revamp any of the combat arenas to accommodate the improved A.I. Also if this is a “remake” they had to have known nobody liked the ladder and pallet puzzles, why are they still here?
@@Pedro_Le_Chef Gameplay improvements??? What gameplay improvements?
@@oneyplayes465 you haven't/won't play so you'll never know.
the game its pretty much a ps3 game with ps5 graphics with ps5 accesibility options at the price a of a new AAA ps5 game, i will eventually play it when it hits ps plus.
This is the video game equivalent of colorizing Citizen Kane. Sure, colour is more technically advanced than black and white, but being in black and white was part of the art's identity. The original PS3 look of The Last Of Us may not look modern anymore, but it was the original look of the art and therefore has value, unlike this PS5 version which too will look old years from now, but unlike the original, lacks the historic and cultural significance. It is a worthless product.
I don't see how a better version of something can just be dismissed as worthless. Also for clarity I've never even been able to enjoy these games personally so this isn't fanboyism clouding my judgement or me going on the defense for a game I never really cared about. I just genuinely don't see how a product being improved can make it worse.
I don't think it's right to devalue art based on it being iterative as opposed to static and fixed. The originals of an iterated project will obviously have more historical value, but that has no bearing on the worth of a media/artistic experience.
@@PhyreI3ird the main point, i believe, it's the price for what's been sold (in a way) as a "new" experience, just for having improved visuals. They kept pointing that it feels different, that it was rebuilt from the ground up, them the comparisons came and side by side, we can see the same skeleton under the new code of paint.
The new, more realistic version will improve in many areas, definitely, but the limitations of old are a testament of the craftsmanship that was done to get the old game looking as good as it did. It is clear, to me at least, that part of the original "vision" is lost with this transition, with models being completely different from their original counterparts.
Uhh this has nothing to do with “coloring citizen kane”
Is citizen kane “ruined” if you buy a 4K HD rerelease of it?
@@Indigo_1001 a 4k hd release would only change the resolution. The analogy of a colorized citizen kane, as to many it would "improve" the original, it's much more fitting.
"The Last F Us" on the thumbnail really cements my feelings on how I feel this remake is a bit redundant, but oh well.
I really think they remade this to enshrine the legacy of the first game and at the same time, deflect some of the criticism of how unpopular the second entry is.
I haven’t played the game since the remaster debuted one the ps4. So this to me will be almost like playing it for the first time. At least in terms of experiencing the story and gameplay. After replaying part two upgraded for the ps5, I’m so excited for this remake.
So there are actually no changes to gameplay? I found Tlou2 supreme in gameplay (with AI e.g.) and was hoping for this to feel as good.
The AI is significantly improved and the shooting feels more like Part 2 than the original but there is no prone or dodge.
The Last of Us suffers from very outdated gameplay. Part 2 changed more than just adding a dodge that barely works and a semi-useless prone; it overhauled the core gameplay entirely by making your player character move seamlessly as you control them.
By comparison, Part 1 plays like a PS3 game. It desperately needed a gameplay update, and they didn't give it one.
Amen well put, Great game but dated game play stuck in 2013 😢
While i agree the character detail and animation is much better i have a hard time saying the game overall looks any much better than the ps3/4 version. During gameplay some sections just look strange, almost uncanny or overly sterile. In some cutscenes I think the 'visual upgrade' simply doesnt work because you'll have hyper detailed faces that models seem to change when theres a cut. Some individual cutscenes have this strange quality where it seems like a lot of focus went into one characters animation but not the other so much so the characters look literally out of place and its jarring to have some of the character models seemingly morph depending on how close you are to them in some cutscenes. This could be owed to me only seeing these through streams/youtube compression but idk its like there was a change in art style/direction that took away from the objecively improved textures/polycount yadada.
I think you're wrong about the game being even more emotionally impactful because of the updated facial expressions. Because that would be like saying that an old game like final fantasy 7 on ps1 wouldn't evoke the same emotions. A whole generation of gamers would disagree with that.
I wish they didn't louden the sirens as you're escaping from the hospital. It really hurt the section.
I have that kind of bad luck that I never really get to play the original games. I never played GTA 1 (started with 3), never played TLOU retail PS3 (started with the PS4 Remaster), never played Quake 1 (started with Counter-Strike), never played Unreal Tournament (both the very first and 1999, started with Unreal 1 and UT 2004), never played Tekken 1 on PS1 (started with 3), and the list goes on and on and on. The only game I really remember playing as the definitive first title was Half Life - after I played through HL2. Is that just my life now? lmao
I’d rather pay full price for a brand new game/story like God of War Ragnarok.
I won’t argue the masterpiece that last of us is but the asking price for this remake makes it only a recommendation for first time players or those that will come after the HBO series which is great for them but this could’ve been an EASY recommendation to EVERYONE if the asking price from Sony/Naughty Dog was $40 or $50. This remake looks awesome but improved graphics and mainly quality of life improvements don’t justify a full game price of $70.
Watching now
Appreciate your work as always. Haven't played the remake yet. But regarding the animation quality arguments, well, there's also Hellblade, right...?
It’s strange that you say 65 quid when the RRP is £69.99.
See I initially thought that but then I looked it up and saw it for 65 quid on Amazon. Both prices are mental.
You know how you could fundamentally and posityvely change it? If you added Dodge & Crawl for one thing.
Or how about amplyfying the areas lke in 2, no that would've required real 70 $ effort (80 euros here in europe, thanks). The thing that buffles me is still how just the graphics and some adjustment alone are enough to justify a second buy at day one, you're still endorsing this industry into this remake remaster direction
I guess he isn’t allowed to enjoy the game?
8:12 Can´t remember a title that comes close to matching this facial animation?
Cries in Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines (2004)
I have now ostensibly played through this story four times: first with TLoU Remastered on PS4, then a replay just a few months later, then another replay in preparation for TLoU 2, and now with Part 1 on PS5. And I couldn't agree more - the emotional moments hit harder than they have since that very initial playthrough
For me this immediately begs the question: how realistic do we really want our games to get? How much more realistic can we make the performance of these actions before games simply become unpleasant to experience? Especially true once fidelity of this level hits VR games.
I began to feel a bit of this set in when playing TLOU 2. I gather that this was at least partly the intention of naughty dog with that game (although I question whether that was really effective, etc, but that's an entirely separate discussion). Feel like we're in for some weird times
It “raises the question”. Begging the question is a specific philosophical fallacy. Sorry, that’s just a pet peeve of mine lol
To your actual point, I agree, the realism is not only more disturbing, but it’s continually more desensitizing to real world events.
@@brando3342 begs the question, who asked?
@@v8bitecho Huh?
Another problem is that graphics that target photorealism will inevitably age. The original Last of Us and Uncharted 1-3 went for a more “stylised realism” which might actually age more gracefully in the long run.
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TLoU part 2 is also stylized, it just more subtle about it
I'll wait for it to go on sale, but I love the original version too much to ignore it, especially after this video. That said, I have played the original and also bought the remaster, so I'm in no particular rush to buy it again.
Well that, and I still need to get my hands on a PS5.
Okay, from what I see from this review, the man gave this game " Look how beautiful this game is. " / 10.
Well if the original is a 10 in your opinion and the new one is just a graphics upgrade then it is still a 10, a better version of 10.
@@zaselimgamingvideos never gave it a 10, lol
I could maybe understand the price tag if it took the sequels mechanics and brought them into the original but it’s essentially the same game as the original and while we’re talking about the last of us in general I just don’t see why some people splooge over this game so much when I first played it on the ps3 I remember being attached to its lead characters and impressed by it visceral looking hand to hand combat and overall visuals but I have to say I think other games have hit similar beats just as well if not better the RDR games for example go toe to toe with the last of us but surpass it in terms of scope or how bout the original Nier? well it certainly can’t stack up on a technical level it has its own story of a dad in a crapsack willing to do whatever it takes to save his child all while having that blend of strangeness and sincerity that Japanese games often have
This game can seriously give a competition to RDR2 in facial animation.
It blows rdr2 out of the water
@@Pelican07.23 Nah it's close but can't beat rdr2
$70 for marginal improvements is just taking the piss, especially in this day and age
i just purchased it. played TLOU multiple times before and TLOU2. i’ve been playing this for about an hour or so and i can confidently say if you have the money and a ps5 TO BUY THIS. it’s stunningly beautiful and the new mechanics are very well designed. plus you don’t need to beat the game to access survivor and grounded difficulty it’s already available from your first playthrough. it’s very fun playing it rn.
I wish I can get decent incomes from a job in honesty with all of the economic turbulences, but living in many parts of Indonesia is just gruelling, even after 7 years I still haven't changed my laptop because of barely able to paying the bills but even there's still creeping debts here and there on top of tragedies happening with no costs recuperations or anything after all these years, let alone having playstation 5 or buying rereleases of 9 year old game
Perhaps finishing my own life is a better option instead of stuck between rock and a hard place without having neither the wits nor brawn nor connections nor experiences nor portfolios for it
I bought the original and completed it when it first came out. I bought the remaster for PS4 when it came out, and beat it again at that time. And I recently bought the PS5 remake and beat it for the third time. And I considered it money well-spent every time.
I got the game for free and the game looks prettier. Naughty Dog isn't paying me to convince you that paying full price for this ridiculous remake is worth the money.
There, I just saved you 10 minutes. Writing On Games is a fantastic channel and I watch a lot of their videos, but this remake is still overpriced unless you get video games for free.
Spot on m8
Yeah everything about this screamed "review copy I've been given by the makers so I better say nice things". WoG videos are always great but I can't get behind this one.
@@SkarrGaming
There are other reviews of the remake that got a early review copy that were way more negative.
Yong Yea and Skill Up both did negative reviews on Part 2 and BOTH still get early review copies form Sony.
Maybe, JUST MAYBE, people legitimately like these games, and aren’t forced to say they do?
So It looks better?
You’ve definitely convinced me that I need to experience TLoUP1 when I can afford it. Boutique product is a good way to describe it, I think you nailed it with that designation.
Don't fall for what he's saying, the game is almost the same as the PS4 version and it's not worth 70 dollars at all, I think if you already played the old version it's not worth buying this one, but if you still want to buy it I think you should wait for a big price drop (like 40 dollars or even 50)
I feel like the opening would've been more powerfully illustrated by playing the scene where Ellie jumps off the trailer with Henry to stand with Joel when the hunters in the tank truck plow through the doors shooting at them. The kind of loyalty that abandons all hope of immediate survival to stand by somebody you love, facing guaranteed death. No other event in either game comes close to showing us exactly what kind of person Ellie is, and how far she will go, even sacrificing everything so Joel doesn't die alone.
Ain’t nobody got time for this cash grab.
I think the game was mid AF. Whats so good about it?
I have to wonder based on the commentary about the expressiveness of the faces and the importance of the story, wouldn't film be a better medium?
Some of the most important emotional/ story beats in TLOU happen in game mechanics not just the cutscenes, So no, film wouldn't be a better medium.
One way or another, this game needs to fail at the market.
Sony can't get away with this.
They did the same thing with Demon Souls remake for 70 dollars…
And that game they didn’t improve on the AI or combat like this remake did
@@Indigo_1001 They did change the gameplay of Demon Souls. Shocking the amount of people defending sony's horrible business decisions, you'd aware they were making commission lol.
has nothing to do with TLOU but... I love you and your work, buddy. (we know you struggle with some things. hopefully this gives you at least a smile and makes you feel good for a second...instead of creeping you out hahaha)
I hope this game makes people get interested in Part III again, Im thinking maybe they wanted Abby to be a protagonist, but because of the backlash, it will probably be a secondary character now, though important
If naughty dog were smart they would pay more attention to their awards than the tiny band of lou2 haters on social media.
I think naughty dog are smart enough 👍👍 part 2 is incredible .
Realistically, the improved graphics will not notably change the experience. It looks great, but it's absolutely not worth the money.
This is coming from a guy who's beaten the game twice on the PS3 original, and twice on the PS4 version. A hard playthrough followed by a grounded playthrough on both consoles. Sony screwed up big time with TLoU2, so this is a desperate cash grab because they know that a huge chunk of former fans are not coming back.
What an insult from Naughty Dog. Which is becoming the norm for their releases now.
Bore off
Except the sales for Part 2 were fantastic (only behind Spider-man) and is not reflective of the opinion bubble that social media is.
Imma be frank i looked at all the footage u shown and it did not impress me, I expected to look more like part 2 for the 70 dollar price tag. It still looks like an early ps4 game at best
What early PS4 game looks like this?
It’s ok when you aim the guns you get the adaptive triggers but it’s also meant to be when you shoot the gun and that’s not a thing in this game how can they mess a simple thing up
I was happy with it on ps3 to be honest. Played the ps4 version 3 times, on ps5 too. I don’t need it looking better. I need them not to ruin all the characters, and crap all over the ambiguity of the ending, by what they did in tlou2.
6:15 Joel is choking someone there but it looks a bit like he's snapping his neck. Is this something you can trigger?
It only happens when u get caught choking
No, it’s fundamentally the same game, just made a little bit graphically improved. The story ends the same, it’s the same game it just costs $70 now. It remains a remake of a remaster.
What do you expected them to do? Change the story just cause?
Also, the 2014 remaster looks IDENTICAL to the original game, it was just a fps and resolution boost. The characters, textures and lighting were untouched
@@Indigo_1001 They literally advertised this as a “remake.” Remakes add things or completely overhaul level design and gameplay to where it feels like a different game. This is the exact same game with prettier graphics.
None of this is inherently bad but $70 is gross as shit.
If you never played it, buy this version.
If you got cash and have played literally every other game, buy this version
The way I viewed this whole thing is imagine your favorite movie got a big 4K blu ray release. You already own that movie but this is arguably the definitive way to view it, the hardcore fans will pick it up. I'm one of those fans but because of the titles for the rest of the year I'll probably wait a bit longer.
I don’t know, it seems more like going from bluray 1080p to bluray 4k. Doesn’t really warrant spending the extra money in my opinion. The game is not even that old, and still looks great.
@@brando3342 that’s basically what I mean. Most people that get the 4K blu ray of the same movie are hardcore fans, not all but some. If people think it’s too much money, that’s fine. If people think it’s worth the money, that’s fine.
@@KillianC1C2 I mean, it's kind of hard to argue with your middle of the road stance, so good on you for that lol I just wish people wouldn't pay that much for it, because it sets a precedent.
@@brando3342 Come on now. The game does only go from 1080p to 4k, but a bluray does not get an upgrade to animations, lighting, textures, physics…
I don’t think the comparison holds at all.
@@iurigrang Well, that would be to attack the analogy instead of the point it's trying to make.
I just remember hating this game when I played it. I think it felt uncanny to me, as most games striving for realism without much of a stylized approach always did back then. I wasn't blind to the qualities everyone loved about it, it's just to me it felt like a clunky game wrapped in the skin of a pretty well written bad CGI movie, something that would have registered if it were being delivered by actual actors that could fully convey intended nuances of expression.
I bought the remastered after playing Part II and was just as put off that many years later.
Everything I'm hearing about this remake has me interested. I'm pretty convinced this remake is for people like me, who weren't as impressed with the execution of the tantalizing concepts that were promised as most people.
The Hamish double-tap
I honestly find the new facial animations incredibly over acted and downright uncanny.
I still fundamentally dislike this remake, as it clothes the original I so loved in the visual language and art design of the sequel I found such a disappointing, hollow, pretentious endeavour that falls completely flat. On top of that ridiculous asking price. I loathe how established gamejournalism is rating this so highly while being mostly a graphical enhancement: they are effectively rating it for the same game it was all those years ago. Yet now that rating carries the added context of "yes, light-ish remakes of this nature carry our stamp of approval and high praise, and at this pricepoint to boot. Carry on." That is a dangerous precedent to condone in such a money hungry industry, one that has already demonstrated the depths of greed it can stoop to.
Yet you raise interesting points where it pertains to graphical and technical enhancements that can heighten the experience even more. I wholeheartedly agree, it looks so well done. I absolutely dislike the narrative of TLoU2, but I loved the audiovisual achievements, and here it's no different. They really are simply stunning. The improved gameplay also was quite engaging, and it's a shame it wasn't introduced in the remake. It definitely would've helped support that pricepoint more.
All it really leaves me with in the end is just bitter disappointment and reminiscing on what could've been would the art design be more in line with TLoU. Think of the bleak cinematography, where TLoU was more colorful and hopeful, and above all those damn character designs. I know, it may seem a very petty thing, but this is a character drive game. And you wouldn't like seeing your favourite characters designed in odd ways, would you? Those are not the Ellie and Joel I came to know, they look completely different, wackier and worse for it -- same for Tess, less importantly so. Though one wonders if any of this was ever a problem if TLoU2 was absolute narrative gold and didn't leave such a bad taste; that taste, the visual language and art design that one associates with it, taints everything going forward for those that were disappointed. And this remake proves it.
I just hope that whatever Naughty Dog has coming up will be as good (narratively) as I've known them in the past.
I played and love the first The Last of us and I didn’t cared that much for Part 2
But this comment is just so over dramatic and being overly sensitive over pointless stuff.
The remake looks better regardless if it used the same engine of another game I wasn’t a fan of. And I even liked the changes in character design on most characters in the remake
Also, you want all reviewers to focus on the 70 price tag? What happens when the game does down on sale or is available on the PS subscriptions? Wouldn’t those reviews feel dated if they focuses too much on the launch price?
Again I always thought when given something it's expected to give a favorable review. Most reviews feel scripted.
another major point is that it doesnt have a multiplayer.
What a video! Keep up the good reviews mate
Lambhoot did a video on Resident Evil 4 VR a while back, right? I'm getting those same vibes from this, discussion on a new version of a game that, if you're really into the original material, makes it seem like a completely new and expanded experience that's practically required just for those little touches. But if you're anyone else, it won't really change your perspective.
Also everyone go subscribe to Lambhoot. You'll be told to do so again at the end of the year anyways.
I'm inclined to pick this up second hand a year or so down the line when Sony makes a cheaper PS5 or one with more than a termite's cheeks worth of storage. I played the OG back on the PS Triple and loved it, so I missed the PS4 version out because I didn't think the upgrade was worth it. Now we have a new version realised from the ground up on fundamentally better hardware, I think that does make for a genuinely compelling case to buy the newer version and try it again. Just not for £65. Stray costs like £30 and is one of the most impressive games this generation so far - against that price and that quality of experience, everything else is a REALLY hard sell.
Stray is a 5 hour game, tlou part 1 is 15, with arguably a lot more replayability. Stray is a good game, but I cannot see it as a good bang for buck.
the price should have been around 55.00 quid, due the lack of mp. imo
$70 is a joke and a scam
You know you can just NOT get it, no one is forcing you to buy the game.
Yes, it’s overpriced, but a scam? Come on…
bro what a great point! its the only last of us part 1 video that a see a fresh take about
Im subscribed to several people doing reviews of this remake ... I wanted to SEE You first
Maybe the real Last Of Us was the friends we made along the way...
It was a tech masterpiece back then but it is one of the most overrated stories ever. Its so generic and predictable and for some reason everyone pretends that there was some epic twist. It should have been obvious from first 10 minutes after Ellie shows up what the ending would likely be
this really does sound like the dude who watched breaking bad, and fell in a rabbit hole about how "the fly" is a great episode. then calls it a masterpiece and the most important episode ever lol.
...this is the most pointed and accurate critique I've ever received on one of my videos, hahaha.
Non-BrBa watcher here, is that specifically about Aleczandxr or is it a common thing for BrBa fans to do? XD
@@CelestiaLily wow fucking gotcha, as i wrote this i was thinking of him
@@CelestiaLily Yeah “The Fly” is kind of a meme in the community. Really recommend you give Breaking Bad a watch though, it’s great.
@@amysteriousviewer3772 yeah lmao i was definitely too young to care when BrBa came out, i think i'd heard about it around when a chunk of the fanbase was still in kind of a "skylar bad walt badass, i'm just like rick sanchez" phase.
it's only now that BCS is over that i'm actually tempted to look into how those stories of personal tragedies unfold. i mean i'm a star wars prequels fan ffs, i'll gladly check out how a down-on-his-luck hardworking wifeguy slowly descends into darker and darker actions while his complicated relationship with his brother deteriorates into devastating loss and heinous deeds... especially that final note of tentative recompense at the end👏
Not sold
I think the facial animations played a big part in TLOU Part 2 too.
Towards the end, when Ellie chases Abby down, you really don't want to play the game anymore. You've seen enough death by that point that killing anymore is uncomfortable.
It becomes a laborious task, and the facial animation of humans struggling was the straw that broke the camel's back.
okay but why did they fuck up level design and presentation
Fundamentally the same, technically different.
Not gonna lie, I might consider buying my first console for that game and its experience with the new controller, i already plan a new large TV for my living room, so might as well go for PS5
They look like those strange robots that engineers have been making look like people lol
I will not agree with you on the dual sense implementation it’s some of the worst most lackluster they should look at any other game and take notes as every ps5 game does it better
I can't wait until the pc port is released and I can just boot up and play a little bit of the best piece of media ever created instead of doing homework.
Has Hamish finally become The Last of Us Part I?
You should DEFINITIVELY buy this game.
In a few years, on sale.