Different playstyles result in different journeys. How would you rank the difficulty of each game? (This is the part you get offended by personal opinions.)
Yea, not taking offense as we all have our personal preferences, but I think putting ER down so low because if you can't beat the first boss, you can go grind for 50+ hours until you can finally beat him yet putting DS2 so high while ignoring how it gives you the most souls to spend in the franchise and is the easiest to upgrade things is laughable. DS2, with the exception of a few areas, is very easy to play, as long as you take your time and not treat it as a boss rush game. Also, the early game of DS3 for those who are new to it is actually very brutal and some of the bosses are terrible. The late game bosses seem to really ramp up the quality and look amazing to fight (I say it that way as I only got up to Pontiff my first time and when I tried again recently, just got bored with the junk boss fight of the tree). As for Sekiro, I agree with you there. I think the hardest part is that it really feels like an action game but the combat is purely a rhythm game. Also, technically you do level up but you don't gain levels per say but you use the experience to unlock more skills.
If by "getting access" you mean the availability of Bloodborne as a game, then no, because both the base game and dlc can be downloaded from the ps store. But if you mean that it's different in storytelling, atmosphere and gameplay compared to other fromsoft-games, then yes, you're correct. for me it's actually one of their greatest efforts and one of my favorite video games ever made. And tbh, The Old Hunters is definitely one of the best dlcs ever made without any doubt
@@whydontyoujustwatchagiallo1639 it means that unless you buy ps4 you can't play it, and i don't think anybody is ready to buy a console just to play one game (at one point i was actually considering that lol)
Not really, i accident got black knight halberd on my first playthrough in ds1, cool weapon and decided to spec to it, later to find out that it's a speed run weapon due to how much of a broken weapon it was
What do you mean by that? Do you mean keep DS2 lore/story but update the gameplay to match later games? Or is there something about the lore itself that you think is wrong?
I feel like Sekiro holds the title relatively easily since there is NO other choice than “git gud” you HAVE to learn the bosses, you can’t run around and come back over-powered/over leveled, you are funneled into that spot and the most you can really do is try to find prayer beads and get some more skill points/upgrade the prosthetic. At the same time, Sekiro becomes the easiest game and kind of plateaus once you have the rhythm down. Isshin to me is just a fun really well crafted boss that I can beat 99% of the time since I’ve beat the game 4 times and learned everything. I even beat all the inner forms, and I would say Inner Father is right at the top of souls boss difficulty, and even rivals Prime Consort Radahn, who I also beat without any sort of spell/shield cheese.
When you get a grip on sekiros combat it gets easy tho. Isshin and owl father aren't that hard of you've gotten good at the combat during your playthroughs and later playthroughs become jokes
@@pandim8035 but thats only once you get gud at it (which usually may take like 1-2 playthroughs of it) other games like dark souls 1-2 or like elden ring or bloodborne are piss easy from the start
Am I the only one that thinks sekiro is easy ? Like obviously not easy every soulsborne is difficult but it’s not the hardest in fact it’s the second easiest soulsborne I’ve ever played elden ring is way more difficult and everyone says that there is NO way other than getting gud uhh what about prosthetics ? Ako’s sugar ? Combat arts ? Man mortal blade cheeses most of the bosses if you actually abuse everything the game gives you the game is not that difficult and I didn’t even abuse absolutely everything
Sekiro is extremely forgiving, and once you figure out what the game wants from you, it becomes extremely easy. I've watched my friend play through both sekiro and shadow of the erdtree, and he had 6x more deaths in shadow of the erdtree lol
@@frostyobama2583 yeah no, Sekiro gets extremely easy after Genichiro. If you learned the game properly like the developers wanted you to, you should have learned the combat by then.
@@dishcleaner2 parrying is a lot harder in elden ring due to way less active frames, more start up and recovery time. and not every move can be parried
Sekiro is the hardest, without question, up until it all clicks. There’s no point in telling someone how to play. They have to play and feel for themselves.
Im giving it to 2 personally. It crushes people who dont know about the ADP stat, and NG+ 7 Blue Smelter put hair on my chest. But i mean all these games are super easy once theyve been out a few months and people figure out what weapon just melts all the bosses
Two is not that hard if you take your time and don't treat the game as a boss rush. I find that people make it hard by trying to run past everything or fail at soloing the co-op areas and then complain on how hard it is.
Hardest in the series if you don’t know about ADP and the merchant selling infinite life gems. Easiest in the series if you do, imo. (Not including Sekiro)
Dark Souls 2 is definetly the easiest. 99 lifegems and you don’t even need to roll most of the time. Considering many people have beaten the game without ever leveling adp it’s very doable
Ds1 is way harder bro, without the soul glitch ds1 is a nightmare with the longest runbacks and distance between bonfires. Ds2 isn't meant to be solo played in the frozen outskirts and iron passage, even the whole eleum loyce 3rd world dlc was created with coop in mind which is where everyone loses faith in the game. The run through eleum loyce is by far the hardest in any souls game especially before Ava the kings pet. You have to kill 90% of everything and they chase you forever without stopping. That's all meant to be coop too
ER is most definitely the easiest of all of them if we’re just talking about the required bosses to get the credits rolling. Add on summons and everything else that came with it and it’s even easier.
I think the placing of bloodborne was really high. The game definitely has the hardest starting area out of all of the games but by the time you get to Amelia the difficulty goes way down.
Yes, can we please get a Dark Souls 1&2 remake. Not that games aged bad or anything, I just want to see those rushed parts in their full potential. Second half of Dark Souls 1 is one thing seeing the artbook and concept arts of Dark Souls 2 makes me wonder how different each game could be. Even Profaned Capital in Ds3 was rushed when it was suppose to be a full underground city like Shulva.
Interesting thing I’ve noticed abt Sekiro is either u get it or u don’t like if u understand what ur doing in Sekiro it’s kinda a cake walk especially compared to ds2 but if not then it’s a nightmare trying to play through Sekiro
I'm more and more hyped about Sekiro. Just give me straight line. Tons of bosses that will make scream at my monitor. System where I dont need to upgrade inv every hour. Just pure fast and reactive combat that's about learning bosse's moves and countering them
@the3xit762 out of ds1, LoP, ds3 and ER, Lies of P is my favorite. So I think Sekiro will suit me. I'm probably on the other side of the spectrum, compare to you Currently I'm sort of burned out and dissapointed with ER. I haven't finish it yet and I even have to force myself to play. I just want to be done with it
A list idea that would be interesting to do is: Which game has the best early level grinding spot. You can divide it into different categories (quickest to get there, quickest to repeat the process, which one gives the most xp each round, which ones are the easiest to use the grinding method, etc.). For DS1, it would probably be the bridge spot where you let the dragon burn them, get 555 (I think) souls, rest at the bonefire, and repeat. For DS2, it would be the ledge at Heides Tower where the big knights can fall off and all you need is a shield (and only need to roll if the one with the big sword does his horizontal attack). Not sure about the other games, though. However, not only would the video be interesting to watch, but it would help those who are struggling with the early game for each game as well.
It's funny to see bloodborne so high. That was the game that really got me into the souls genre, I tried DS1 but it didn't grab me. Then Bloodborne became my life for about 6 months. I used to think it was really hard, but now going back to it after playing relatively restricted builds on Elden ring, and having played DS3 as well, I think it's pretty easy. You can spam Dodge like crazy and bloodborne and be just fine. I'm glad Elden widened the scop of strategies, the DS3 and BB roll spamming was pretty out of control, glad Elden made it more difficult while still making it reasonable for a new player to clear the game.
11:55 the ds2 dodging system is different then in any other game. Rolling has only start i frames so if you want to dodge you will have to dodge really late.
Dark souls 2 is very easy because you can level up quickly, but forest of fallen giants and tower of flame are insanely difficult for early game areas, and i wont mention dlc areas
Demon souls was the last souls game I played out of all of them but despite the fact that you tend to find each game easier as you play more of them I struggled with this one so much. The irony is that I beat flamelurker on my first try while I tend to see people say he’s the hardest boss in the game. It’s so interesting how different peoples experiences are.
That's the second boss in the second area, right? I got stuck there in the PS3 version with my knight character, I barely did any damage to it so I gave up. In PS5 version I learned it is weak against magic so I made a mage character and totally annihilated it first try. ... Then I came to that third area, after you kill the false idol or whatever it name is, the next boss after that is so bad to fight against as a mage that I'm reconsidering to restart the game a THIRD TIME to make another knight
Nothing still beats the super massive jump in difficulty in between NG and NG+ for bloodborne. Nothing also beats how hard the defiled chalices were 💀. Though optional, was very much one of the hardest I've went through.
Might’ve mistaken it for some of the chalices, but I didn’t do the dlc, any online chalices, or grind the blood gems. most ng+ bosses straight up 1 to 2 shotted me. Especially Micolash and Rom’s adds.
"Dark Souls 2 has the hardest" in regards to SL1 Interesting hearing that statement after watching another video showing how SL1 isn't that hard due to all the stat boasting items and how DS3 has a higher SL1 difficulty.
Not true cause elden ring is a lot of peoples first you’d think it’s prepare them but actually it’d spoil them they aren’t ready for a real souls experience
I still truly feel like Dark Souls 1 is the hardest, even after playing every Soulsborne game. I felt this way when I played it for the first time and I still feel this way. It wasn’t even my first Soulsborne game, it was my last (this was when the newest one was Dark Souls 3). The environments are hellish. Blighttown, Sen’s Fortress, Anor Londo, Tomb of the Giants, Duke’s Archives…they’re all major gauntlets to overcome. Taking Sen’s Fortress as an example, there’s never been anything in the series as punishing as that gauntlet. The environments want you dead at all times. Environmental hazards are at an all time high for the series, everything wants you dead, from the ground, to the walls, to the rocks. And let’s not forget the hardest non boss section in the series…the Anor Londo archers. It’s ridiculous, man. Even going back to play DS1 now, I never feel safe in this game. Elden Ring? Pffft bosses are tough but the world is easy to navigate. Sekiro? Tough combat, but again the world is easy to navigate. The only one I would compare to DS1 in difficulty is Bloodborne, but in that game you always have the Hunter’s Dream to warp back to. You don’t have anywhere to go in DS1 until you get the Lordvessel. No idea how DS1 has the reputation of being one of the easiest. Play DS1 and then play DS3 for example. Night and day difference. In DS3 you feel mobile, you feel SAFE, you don’t feel like the entire world is out to get you.
hardest to easiest: 1. Dark Souls - Scarce bonfires, cramped spaces, deadly environments to traverse no fast travel, hardcore RPG elements, get backstabbed from the front, don't know where to go. Bosses except for a few are easy for the most part. 2. Bloodborne - Very hard to learn aggressive playstyle in the early game. Once you get the early game down the rest isn't as bad. Late game bosses don't do that much damage. 3. Dark Souls 2 - BS ambush situations, extremely clunky, complicated areas filled with enemies that don't let up. Bosses are a joke. 4. Dark Souls 3 - Late game areas and bosses are very difficult. Linear paths mean you don't get lost. 5. Demon Souls - Some boss runbacks are absurd. Areas can be difficult. Bosses aren't very challenging. 6. Elden Ring - Nothing about this game is hard unless you go about crippling yourself. Spirit summons take agro. Can run away from conflict with the horse. Plenty of ways to get powerful before progressing through the game. No boss runbacks. If you were to raw dog it and play it like dark souls then it is the. Sekiro isn't a souls game.
Strength bonk builds make the game so easy. Never understood why all strength users say any other type of playstyle is cheesy. I mean with melee just grab a big ass weapon or two and keep poise braking and stun locking everything lol
Pure melee is imo easier than ranged seeing as bosses hard counter the encouraged ranged playstyle as you get farther into the game. It’s really clutch that int builds have the mlgs because comet don’t work so good against bosses built for the melee flow
Sekiro and ds3 are still harder even with that, Elden ring has the hardest bosses that way but the level design is so much more forgiving, u could argue bb is still harder too just bec of the levels, and it isn’t just the levels bec bb dlc has even harder bosses than Elden ring
@@MattDean-o1tyea with input reading from bosses especially bosses like malenia sorcery doesn’t really feel cheese to me . . I’m talking if you’re playing like a regular sorcerer just glintstone shard/cometshard spam etc none of that 20 buffs/terra magicka/glass cannon comet azure stuff . .
Perfect timing on the vid, I just downloaded the demon souls remake, and dark souls 1 remastered after beating elden ring and loving it (I played these 2 back when I was a kid but didn't understand anything about them and because I had them through gamefly I decided not to keep them for very long)
Sekiro is by far the hardest due to not having build variety (the difficulty slider of any fromsoft game) in any form. Elden ring can be the easiest or the second hardest, or anywhere inbetween, based on how you choose to play it. Dark souls 2 and 3 are about as hard as each other, but for very different reasons. Whether you find crowd control or memorizing boss patterns more difficult will decide which you struggle more with. Dark souls 1 is a test of endurance, as well as one of the most atmospheric games I've ever played, but I jumped into the series with 3 so the bosses all felt pretty straightforward. I'm strictly PC so I cant speak to bloodborne or demon souls.
I have platinum on all of them except DS2, and my personal opinion is Elden Ring is probably the hardest depending on how you play it and getting through the first playthrough. The late game bosses have such a big difficulty spike with insane damage output, and then the variable timing windows of attacks just keeps you on your toes. I'd probably put Sekiro in second place, but when it finally clicks it's one of the easier games. Just for fun, the hardest Soulslike in my opinion is Lies of P just because the parry windows are unforgiving. The hardest boss or maybe most poorly designed boss in a Soulslike goes to Spawn of Oggdo in Star Wars Jedi Survivor.
I would like to say that going from ds3 or elden ring to ds1 is really hard because the ds1 movement is so much slower than ds3 and elden ring and it tricks your brain, it’s mainly why i gave up in blight town and restarted In the contrast i’d say that sulyvahn no light shield is the hardest ds3 boss(non dlc), nameless king is radahn difficulty at best elden ring wise, took me 3 tries in phase 2 because the first 2 i was happy to be out of camera hell and got nervous
Sekiro is the hardest imo for one simple reason: The only way out is through. Every other game gives you alternative strategies and opportunities to create advantages for yourself. ER has the most safety blankets for those who wish to use them. There are a million ways to get stronger, level up, use busted summons, outright skip areas until you're comfortable coming back etc. All the games have this to varying extents. Only Sekiro forces you to face the boss with your skills alone, and minimal opportunities to tip the odds in your favor using other variables.
Sekiro is the hardest because it’s the only game where you can’t summon 2 or more of your friends and watch them solo the boss for you as you do a pacifist run. It wins by default
It really depends how you play elden ring. If you play purely solo and no cheese builds, its probably harder than any of the others. One of my friends has beaten BB, legit had the most trouble on lawrence and beat OOK in 8 tries. But this guy was STRUGGLING on Niall, margit, rellana etc
For me personally it was Elden ring, iv played ds, ds2, ds3, bloodborne, and I don’t know what it was about Elden ring, but it’s just felt different to me, so different that I struggled on the first boss at least 100 times
Removing kuro’s charm also makes enemies take less dmg, even more so than rigning demon bell. Ringing the demon bell does not really do much imo. I still hit inner isshin big enough to see gray color when his hp diminishes, not so when im charmless (even without demon bell rung). And there is a levelling up system in sekiro too As for action packed - you cannot cancel animation in sekiro so you cannot spam attack and if the enemy suddenly hyperpoise you cannot deflect/dodge impromptu. So it is still like elden ring in that you have to make sure to wait for the combo to end if you think you cannot recover from atk animation fast enough if you r1 between enemy’s sword swing. Which sucks for a game purportedly encouraging aggressive playstyle. In short, souls games are made for noobs too craven to take risks if sekiro is their prime example of agressive-playstyle-encouraging game
Interesting opinions I’ve only beat Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne and Elden Ring. 1.) the healing system 2.) mobs are harder than the bosses 3.) the DLC mainly because I played on NG+ and accidentally kill Gehrman with the assumption it would ask me if I’d roll over to NG+. Orphan wasn’t as bad as everyone says to me at least. Laurence and Lady Maria along with Ludwig were a pain Honestly asides from Laurence and some NG+ enemies it wasn’t that bad So my Ranking would go easiest to hardest: Bloodborne Dark Souls 3 1.) Midir and late game mobs 2.) Sister Friede, Demon Princes 3.) Lorian and Lothric 4.) early game is very unforgiving at low levels and no upgraded weapons I found DS3 NG+ to be veeeerrrryy unforgiving late game but that’s to be expected, Midir had me tweaking when I one shotted him on NG Elden Ring (no summons) Ah my first souls game…. Souls VETS and Snobs… REAAALLLYYY want to say Elden Ring is easy. Yes you can summon a tanky mimic of yourself with bleed proc cheeses and you can cheese the boss yourself with some spells. Buuut if you had to play it organically the bosses are absolutely more ridiculous than any other souls game bosses asides from Sekiro. They fight like Devil May Cry characters. Dodging is hell. The DLC even proves that. So if you play without cheeses and summons I guarantee Elden Ring and Sekiro tie (I’ve heard Sekiro is insane). Bosses: Messmer, Malenia, Consort Radahn, Bayle, Scadutree Avatar, Radagon and The Elden Beast. Rellana, Astel Stars Of Darkness, Mohg, Morgott, Fire Giant. Hell, Starscourge Radahn and Commander Niall. ALL of These bosses…. Are immensely harder than 60% to 80% of Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne. Honestly I found a lot of bosses in Bloodborne and DS3 to be jokes and they are designed to be FOUGHT SOLO. Elden Ring is definitely designed with summoning in mind, I mean, look at all the different summons. Elden Ring may be more accessible but you can also farm and level in DS3 and BB, so I find that argument bullshit. Elden is by far the hardest FromSoft game and that’s me being bold not even playing Sekiro. I was stuck on Malenia, Messmer, Chadahn, Chadagon and many other bosses for days and hours. just because it’s a lot of people’s entry into souls, doesn’t make it easy. The only reason I haven’t finished DS1 is the mobs and run backs. DS2 I’ll pass. Sekiro, I’ve seen enough on it and that one doesn’t interest me.
@@yeahnahmate7 only the self proclaimed ‘vets’. The souls community is one of the most fun communities to be in, no matter what butthurt critics like joseph anderson try to tell you. The only negative is the self proclaimed ‘souls vets’
I remember using the Moonveil in Elden Ring and literally breezing through the game. For my 2nd playthrough i used a regular Katana just to purposely make the game more difficult.
demon’s souls ng was a breeze BUT i find ng+ extremely difficult. every other game is easier on ng+ and beyond, but demon’s is so hard, i’d rather just start a new game and breeze through again.
9:35 Based! You have this guy saying it is okay to cheese and play however you want right after he shows an incredible RL1 clip and then there are those edlords all over the internet telling people how they enjoy the game is wrong and they should be ashamed.
So true. Though some styles does lessen the enjoyment of the fight, if you at least enjoyed it, then it served its purpose. However, if you don't do certain things that the game sets up and then complain how hard it is, then we got a problem (e.g. trying to solo the co-op areas in DS2 when they were set up to be played as a team and then go complain how unfair they are or complaining how difficult the first guy in ER is after just going straight to him without really exploring the open world).
Plus they are easily doable while solo just extremely hard. No one cares when we say they were highly optional areas that aren't even in the main path of the game you gave to actively seek them out@@Ironica82
@@Ironica82All the ds1 players were complaining about not enough challenge and Fromsoftware listened and added these torture areas for all the veterans of the games and then they turned around and complained about it lmao dweebs
My memory of most games are not so fresh but here you go Easy to hardest (boss difficulty+environment difficulty) = elden ring (l2 spam ftw, even without summons), demons, ds1, ds3, bloodborne, ds2, sekiro.
Coming from someone who started Dark Souls 1 and 3, Elden Ring, then Sekiro. They still don’t compare to Dark Souls 2. First time trying to figure out Dark Souls 2 mechanics of the game was a nightmare. Mechanics are wonky, you move slow as hell, confusing stats to understand, The games map is all over the place, hard to play with friends, sure the enemies are slower but you get horrible health in this game and if it is your first time playing trying to understand the game good luck. Maybe it was just me but idk. It’s the only game I’ve quit in 15 years. Malenia didn’t make me quit
Bloodborne for a first run because if you run out of vials you either farm for some or just run it back and start again and hope you cleanly defeat the first few bosses. Also, once you get to Amelia if you aren’t using the +4 Saw with fire paper. You’re almost fucked if you have no idea what her moveset is because she will hit you hard, plus she heals 50-75 percent through the fight which at that point you’re almost screwed.
On my mother's life, I've cleared ER like 9 times and BB once, BB is WAYYYYY WAYYYY easier than ER, even on my first playthrough. Most bosses I did in first try, CANNOT say the same about ER. Even with summons that game was HARD as FUCK. Even now when I know basically every bosses moveset I still don't clear them first try
@phillyhillbilly5649 yea but overlevelling means jack shit against a boss like Niall, malenia, maliketh etc who will melt u if u can't get good. Only really in early game does that make a difference. And here's a thought: if you're ovelevelled in any other souls game, that trivialises that game way more than it does in ER
i mean thats true but overlevelling is way harder and monotonous to achieve in the souls series.. elden ring to me just gives way to much opportunity to abuse the open world design and summons to be considered hard since theres a fun and easy path around the difficulty. elden ring has some tough bosses but navigating the world is easy and the dungeons arent too hard either
@phillyhillbilly5649 true but don't say it's too easy if you are overlevelling and/or summoning. On a first playthrough sure, but if u do a solo run on NG+ or just a new game you will find it WAY harder
@@malikpittman6376 thats not the point.. you can make any game hard by not levelling or by not using certain mechanics. if the way the game is designed makes it inherently easier then it is in fact an easy game. they designed elden ring to be more forgiving to the masses which is why it became so popular, but also why its just an easier game..
Hardest thing on Bloodborne was the combination of Giant Beasts where you can't really see what they hin you with and 30 FPS... that hurts. Sekiro is not easy, but doable as soon as you get the hang of the parry/combat system. I struggeled most with the hard Elden RIng bosses like Prime Radahn or Malenia (solo, with the mimic they're also more doable)
if elden ring is a souls game then so is sekiro and bloodborne right? so for me me it hardest to easiest goes: sekiro, demon's souls, ds2, ds3, elden ring, bloodborne, ds1 but thats far from objective since this is pretty much the same list as "the one i played least to the one i played most"
As another guy said "the hardest souls game is your first" ts couldn't be more true because the silver knight archers in anor Londo ds1 had me cooked for aaaaaages
I agree that Sekiro is the most difficult. By the time I reached the first mini-boss, I thought the game was genuinely impossible until I figured out the rhythm of the game. It's extremely difficult to initially learn, turns into a challenging game when you figure it out, and becomes the easiest by the time you beat it. Among Souls, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring, I'd say Demon's Souls was the hardest for me. I played Demon's Souls Remake after getting the platinum trophy in all the other games. I didn't cheese a single one. Demon's Souls felt the most difficult because I'd end up in pure black world tendency sometimes and make the game impossible for myself. Also, it was the most difficult in the first stages of every area. Once I killed the first boss in every area, it would typically take me 30 minutes at most to finish the last segment.
What makes ds2 also harder is how insanely slow the healing animation of the estus flask is. Combined with delayed attacks. Its crazy how noticable it is when you compare it to the newer games and when youre used to the faster paced playstyle. Definetly a top 2 spot imo
I honestly agree. I ranked those games the same as you did. Even when reviews and some people claimed that new Elden Ring DLC have hardest bosses in From Soft history I was like "do you remember what tarnished is capable of?" because you have so much freedom and so many obvious ways to make fights easy, while Bloodbourne and Sekiro design is really tight and you have way less options to deal with enemies in some straightforward cheesy way, unless there is some bug exploit you can find online. So yeah I came to same conclusion that Bloobourne and Sekiro are still most difficult FromSoft games.
Elden ring is wayyyyy harder than BB playing solo. Yes I know you can summon and get cheese builds, BUT if you don't, objectively ERs bosses are way harder
I've only played (and platinumed) Elden Ring, Bloodborne and most recently, Sekiro. Demon's Souls is next. I'm also not looking forward to DS2 but I'm up for the challenge haha
I always play with a great sword and the heaviest armor, I’d say with this build from easiest to hardest ds1-ds2-Elden ring-ds3-bloodborne(cause it doesn’t have my standard build)
personally i'd still say elden ring's dlc, i've finished sekiro with its boss rush mode, but maaaaaan that dlc is super tough that i'm still stuck on messmer but i'm not sure if that's mostly because i skipped almost half of the base game since i didn't save my first playthrough and didn't feel like playing through everything again so i ended up underleveled but still, almost all elden ring's dlc bosses are so brutal even compared to sekiro
For me sekiro was the hardest to get into it because how slow it clicked to me. Overall i would say i enjoyed all of the games that even if i would get stuck somewhere, it wouldn't frustrate me and so it didn't feel hard. But some ds2 levels, malenia and prime consort radahn felt truly frustrating at times.
DS2 is unironically decent if your goal is getting good, just level ADP and don't aggro every single enemy unless you can take them out. It's not DS3 nor ER, where you can just run through areas without being severely punished. I agree with the difficulty placement, it's not that difficult if you take your time with the enemies. I don't think Sekiro is hard, the parry window is too generous. Only Demon of Hatred made me struggle a little bit.
I’ve played Elden Ring, Bloodborne and Sekiro (currently playing ds3), and tbh they’re all difficult in their own respective ways (except for Elden Ring, that game was just really easy for me), Sekiro is rough but really easy once the combat clicks, and Bloodborne’s base game is really easy but the later chalice dungeons and dlc are extremely tough, so it’s hard to rank them to me
The clip of you beating maliketh with those stats and the stuff you had astonishes me your amazing man and keep up the good work you just gained a sub 😁🫡👍
Sekiro has zero cheese and is by far the hardest because of that. Every other game can be made easier with the right combination of playstyle, gear and OP weapons. You can beat them without learning the mechanics or the bosses, especially Elden Ring, but that is impossible with Sekiro, because even with Shinobi tools, you will eventually hit a roadblock that cannot be overcome with anything other than getting good.
There's a lot of cheese just not in the normal sense of "I hit enemy 50% bar, he hits for 2%". Name a boss and there is a way to cheese it, or make fight trivial. A lot of bosses are looped, other lot are scripted. There's still some skill involved in cheesing but same can be said about soulsring cheeses.
Considering level 1 play, still Elden Ring will be hardest aside from terrain and runs which are harder in souls trilogy. Easiest would be Sekiro if the mechanic is properly mastered cuz u can just get posture break with perfect parry so hp doesn't even matter if u don't plan to get hit and boss health pool doesn't matter either
Demon souls might have easy bosses, but the levels were so frustrating that I didn’t finish the game. On the other hand, I loved Elden ring and got the platinum trophy within a few weeks of buying it
This is a nice video and some valid opinions. I wouldnt really agree with you on some of these but you bring up some good points. A playstyle can definitely impact your experience, as it did mine. I really like parrying which is why I breezed through sekiro. This would be my current ranking (I havent played ds3 yet) 6. Demons Souls 5. Dark Souls 1 4. Dark Souls 2 3. Sekiro 2. Elden Ring 1. Bloodborne The games just got easier for me over time, as I learned the timing for each game, but I'll never forget the struggle on cleric beast and vicar amelia
Easiest to hardest: Demon Souls Dark souls 3 Dark souls Elden Ring Sekiro Bloodborne Dark souls 2 Dark souls 2 is only the hardest not due to any actual challenge in the game, but due to bullsh*t like having I-frames ne tied to a stat you have to kevel up, crappy hit boxes, insane boss runs, and more. For Elden Ring, pre-dlc I would've put it probably second easiest, but Shadow of the Erdtree really upped the ante.
I agree with the statement of difficulty being subjective. What i mean is for me the game itself isn't difficult, the system is fine, but for me, doing runbacks and excessive exploring is hell, which is why DS2 is the hardest for me.
Which game is the hardest? The first one you play, especially if you were a kid when it released. It gets easier as you get better, which carries over to subsequent games. There's a reason why 'get gud' is a saying.
The games aren’t necessarily hard … they just demand your focus . All the enemies/bosses have predetermined rules/movements/agros….once you learn those rules you learn how to bend the game in your favor
ER is both the easiest and hardest one. When using everything at your disposal, even radahn isnt too hard, when playing it like any other souls game, its insanely hard. And for sekiro, as you said, once it clicks its easy, before it clicks, its insanely hard
For now I have only played Elden Ring, ds3 and sekiro and here's my ranking: Elden Ring is definitely the easiest, if you summon a mimic every fight and use the tools that are given to you, the game just becomes a cake walk, I beat the first part of the game with summons and quit them at farum azula, and that made farum azula the hardest area for me and maliket the hardest boss, and whwn I eventually caved in and summoned for malenia, me and my mimic tear first tried her. Summoning is just so op, and I'm sad that it's in the game because fighting without it is just twice as fun. Next hardest is ds3, early game was pretty easy, but I had the experience from elden ring, so that's to be expected, but the game really gets hard at the end and with the dlc, midir is maybe not the deadliest, but definitely the lenghtiest, and Gael is the best boss I have ever played. The hardest for sure tho is Sekiro, the game is just so thight that many times parrying is harder than dodging and there's no way to gring, I mean yeah you could farm ako's sugars to up your attack but you still have to eat it mid-fight and the posture dammage doean't even change. it's also the only game I have abandonned, but I returned to it and am now heating it in hard mode
I don't know man. BB and Elden Ring were incredibly easy with the exception of certain bosses. You just have to make sure you don't pull aggro on massive mobs. Remove the mobs from BB and it's a fucking cakewalk until bosses like amygdala and orphan. The hardest thing about BB is the ledges and ladders.
6:35 god bless dude finally someone that gets it. why the hell do you need to lvl str/dex with a +0 wep. lvl that vigor and you wont have to touch the stat again until the 2nd half of the game same thing in ds2 ironically, but with adp. lvl your str/dex to use your weapon, then adp to 99agi and youre good. theres no reason to level a damage stat when your shitknife +1 has a D scaling with Dex
I think ER is the hardest. Leaving out Sekiro. ER is the most approachable but o still think it’s the hardest. I played DSR and went back to BB and DS3 after spending a year in ER and I plowed through them all with very little issue. Went back to ER for the expansion and it was much more difficult compared to all the others.
The only 2 things which were hard for me in Bloodborne: 1. Going into DLC on level 30. I struggled all the way up to Ludwig and said, enough is enough. Came back at the lol 110 and breezed through the rest of the DLC without a drop of sweat. 2. Freaking chalice dungeons. I don't know what's worse, the difficulty level in the cursed ones and beyond. Of the repeatative nature of them. Easily the worst part of the game and one of the worst in the whole soulsborne series. Other than that, I can't imagine what is so difficult about Bloodborne. Farming vials?
I still consider Elden Ring to be the easiest in the franchise by far, just for the fact that the game gives you an INSANE amount of tools to use, and the fact that it’s open world and you can do a million things before facing the boss. Still a 10/10 masterpiece for sure.
Different playstyles result in different journeys. How would you rank the difficulty of each game?
(This is the part you get offended by personal opinions.)
personally I'd only swap Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1
Yea, not taking offense as we all have our personal preferences, but I think putting ER down so low because if you can't beat the first boss, you can go grind for 50+ hours until you can finally beat him yet putting DS2 so high while ignoring how it gives you the most souls to spend in the franchise and is the easiest to upgrade things is laughable. DS2, with the exception of a few areas, is very easy to play, as long as you take your time and not treat it as a boss rush game.
Also, the early game of DS3 for those who are new to it is actually very brutal and some of the bosses are terrible. The late game bosses seem to really ramp up the quality and look amazing to fight (I say it that way as I only got up to Pontiff my first time and when I tried again recently, just got bored with the junk boss fight of the tree).
As for Sekiro, I agree with you there. I think the hardest part is that it really feels like an action game but the combat is purely a rhythm game. Also, technically you do level up but you don't gain levels per say but you use the experience to unlock more skills.
for me
Demon's Souls
Dark Souls 3
Elden Ring
Dark Souls 1
Dark Souls 2
Bloodborne
Sekiro
Out of the seven i played 5 (no DS1-2)
Boss difficulty: Sekiro
Area/level difficulty: Demon souls
Mechanics difficulty: Your first souls game
Sekiro : Hardest bosses
Demon's Souls : Worse Runbacks
Dark Souls 2 : Hardest dlc maps
Elden Ring : Hardest dlc bosses
The hardest part of bloodborne is getting access to it.
No the game itself.
If by "getting access" you mean the availability of Bloodborne as a game, then no, because both the base game and dlc can be downloaded from the ps store. But if you mean that it's different in storytelling, atmosphere and gameplay compared to other fromsoft-games, then yes, you're correct. for me it's actually one of their greatest efforts and one of my favorite video games ever made. And tbh, The Old Hunters is definitely one of the best dlcs ever made without any doubt
@@whydontyoujustwatchagiallo1639 it means that unless you buy ps4 you can't play it, and i don't think anybody is ready to buy a console just to play one game (at one point i was actually considering that lol)
@@Ulquiorra_Ciferit’s playable in the ps5 too, the hard part is paying to play online (ps+)
A playstation exclusive game can still be played on playstation 4 & 5, there really isn’t any difficulty in accessing bloodborne
the hardest souls game is your first one
Only valid take on this
You're cooking
Yeah can confirm ds1 kicked my butt, cappra demon locked me down for like 2 weeks
Not really, i accident got black knight halberd on my first playthrough in ds1, cool weapon and decided to spec to it, later to find out that it's a speed run weapon due to how much of a broken weapon it was
For me, Bloodborne takes the cake lmao
I have a dream. One day we will get a lore accurate Dark Souls 2 remake.
What do you mean by that? Do you mean keep DS2 lore/story but update the gameplay to match later games? Or is there something about the lore itself that you think is wrong?
You already did Lil bro. It's called Scholar of the First Sin
@@rigorm136That's a repackage, not a remake
@@rigorm136 That's more of a lore update/DLC.
Nit even lore acurate, I want to see it come to life as tge first itteration was suppose to be
I feel like Sekiro holds the title relatively easily since there is NO other choice than “git gud” you HAVE to learn the bosses, you can’t run around and come back over-powered/over leveled, you are funneled into that spot and the most you can really do is try to find prayer beads and get some more skill points/upgrade the prosthetic. At the same time, Sekiro becomes the easiest game and kind of plateaus once you have the rhythm down. Isshin to me is just a fun really well crafted boss that I can beat 99% of the time since I’ve beat the game 4 times and learned everything. I even beat all the inner forms, and I would say Inner Father is right at the top of souls boss difficulty, and even rivals Prime Consort Radahn, who I also beat without any sort of spell/shield cheese.
When you get a grip on sekiros combat it gets easy tho. Isshin and owl father aren't that hard of you've gotten good at the combat during your playthroughs and later playthroughs become jokes
@@pandim8035 but thats only once you get gud at it (which usually may take like 1-2 playthroughs of it) other games like dark souls 1-2 or like elden ring or bloodborne are piss easy from the start
Am I the only one that thinks sekiro is easy ? Like obviously not easy every soulsborne is difficult but it’s not the hardest in fact it’s the second easiest soulsborne I’ve ever played elden ring is way more difficult and everyone says that there is NO way other than getting gud uhh what about prosthetics ? Ako’s sugar ? Combat arts ? Man mortal blade cheeses most of the bosses if you actually abuse everything the game gives you the game is not that difficult and I didn’t even abuse absolutely everything
Sekiro is extremely forgiving, and once you figure out what the game wants from you, it becomes extremely easy.
I've watched my friend play through both sekiro and shadow of the erdtree, and he had 6x more deaths in shadow of the erdtree lol
@@frostyobama2583 yeah no, Sekiro gets extremely easy after Genichiro. If you learned the game properly like the developers wanted you to, you should have learned the combat by then.
I have beaten Sekiro Charmless+Demon bell twice, but that still feels easier than Promised Consort Radahn without my summons :(
The key is parrying there too
@@dishcleaner2 parrying is a lot harder in elden ring due to way less active frames, more start up and recovery time. and not every move can be parried
Sekiro is the hardest, without question, up until it all clicks. There’s no point in telling someone how to play. They have to play and feel for themselves.
Bloodborne was the easiest for me because I liked the feeling of the game so much I wasn’t thinking about how I hated dying against bosses
The thing about that game to me is if u die its your fault, its not much bs in it to hinder u
for me bb first was really hard in my first paythrough but all playthroughs after i found it so east
Yeah you might not know the definition of the word "easy"
I want to level vigor but my toxic trait says just don’t get hit.
Couldn't agree more Demon's Souls becomes walk in the park as long as you have enough grass in your pocket
Guess you're shoving all the grass into your pocket while walking through that park 🤣
You haven't done pure black have you 😂
If you go mage route the magic crushes all bosses. You can read a book and beat the bosses using magic.
@@angeldillemuthactorespecially if you get firestorm 😂
Im giving it to 2 personally. It crushes people who dont know about the ADP stat, and NG+ 7 Blue Smelter put hair on my chest. But i mean all these games are super easy once theyve been out a few months and people figure out what weapon just melts all the bosses
Two is not that hard if you take your time and don't treat the game as a boss rush. I find that people make it hard by trying to run past everything or fail at soloing the co-op areas and then complain on how hard it is.
Hardest in the series if you don’t know about ADP and the merchant selling infinite life gems. Easiest in the series if you do, imo. (Not including Sekiro)
@@DasqalEven without infinite life gems the bosses are a joke 😂😂
Dark Souls 2 is definetly the easiest. 99 lifegems and you don’t even need to roll most of the time. Considering many people have beaten the game without ever leveling adp it’s very doable
Ds1 is way harder bro, without the soul glitch ds1 is a nightmare with the longest runbacks and distance between bonfires.
Ds2 isn't meant to be solo played in the frozen outskirts and iron passage, even the whole eleum loyce 3rd world dlc was created with coop in mind which is where everyone loses faith in the game.
The run through eleum loyce is by far the hardest in any souls game especially before Ava the kings pet. You have to kill 90% of everything and they chase you forever without stopping. That's all meant to be coop too
ER is most definitely the easiest of all of them if we’re just talking about the required bosses to get the credits rolling. Add on summons and everything else that came with it and it’s even easier.
With sekiro you have to practice and when it clicks you will have the most fun i swear my favorite game ever
okay now I want that Rl1 blindfold, inverted controls, 5000ms input delay, handsome squidward run
Already did that last year. Absolute child’s play
Just use monitor with ghosting issues and 50 ms lag
I think the placing of bloodborne was really high. The game definitely has the hardest starting area out of all of the games but by the time you get to Amelia the difficulty goes way down.
Yes, can we please get a Dark Souls 1&2 remake. Not that games aged bad or anything, I just want to see those rushed parts in their full potential. Second half of Dark Souls 1 is one thing seeing the artbook and concept arts of Dark Souls 2 makes me wonder how different each game could be. Even Profaned Capital in Ds3 was rushed when it was suppose to be a full underground city like Shulva.
FALSE !!!!!!!!!! The hardest thing is ME while playing these games!!!!
Interesting thing I’ve noticed abt Sekiro is either u get it or u don’t like if u understand what ur doing in Sekiro it’s kinda a cake walk especially compared to ds2 but if not then it’s a nightmare trying to play through Sekiro
I'm more and more hyped about Sekiro. Just give me straight line. Tons of bosses that will make scream at my monitor. System where I dont need to upgrade inv every hour. Just pure fast and reactive combat that's about learning bosse's moves and countering them
Sekiro is the only souls game I hated.. I found it too difficult the combat was not my thing at all and I wasn’t a fan of the levels either
@the3xit762 out of ds1, LoP, ds3 and ER, Lies of P is my favorite. So I think Sekiro will suit me. I'm probably on the other side of the spectrum, compare to you
Currently I'm sort of burned out and dissapointed with ER. I haven't finish it yet and I even have to force myself to play. I just want to be done with it
@ that’s fair enough, each to their own! I haven’t played lies of p yet though I want to!
A list idea that would be interesting to do is:
Which game has the best early level grinding spot.
You can divide it into different categories (quickest to get there, quickest to repeat the process, which one gives the most xp each round, which ones are the easiest to use the grinding method, etc.).
For DS1, it would probably be the bridge spot where you let the dragon burn them, get 555 (I think) souls, rest at the bonefire, and repeat.
For DS2, it would be the ledge at Heides Tower where the big knights can fall off and all you need is a shield (and only need to roll if the one with the big sword does his horizontal attack).
Not sure about the other games, though. However, not only would the video be interesting to watch, but it would help those who are struggling with the early game for each game as well.
4:10 it takes 1 minute for me
It's funny to see bloodborne so high. That was the game that really got me into the souls genre, I tried DS1 but it didn't grab me. Then Bloodborne became my life for about 6 months. I used to think it was really hard, but now going back to it after playing relatively restricted builds on Elden ring, and having played DS3 as well, I think it's pretty easy. You can spam Dodge like crazy and bloodborne and be just fine.
I'm glad Elden widened the scop of strategies, the DS3 and BB roll spamming was pretty out of control, glad Elden made it more difficult while still making it reasonable for a new player to clear the game.
Ds3 and bb were easily 1-2 easiest. The fast-paced combat made it so much easier
11:55 the ds2 dodging system is different then in any other game. Rolling has only start i frames so if you want to dodge you will have to dodge really late.
Dark souls 2 is very easy because you can level up quickly, but forest of fallen giants and tower of flame are insanely difficult for early game areas, and i wont mention dlc areas
Demon souls was the last souls game I played out of all of them but despite the fact that you tend to find each game easier as you play more of them I struggled with this one so much. The irony is that I beat flamelurker on my first try while I tend to see people say he’s the hardest boss in the game. It’s so interesting how different peoples experiences are.
That's the second boss in the second area, right? I got stuck there in the PS3 version with my knight character, I barely did any damage to it so I gave up. In PS5 version I learned it is weak against magic so I made a mage character and totally annihilated it first try.
... Then I came to that third area, after you kill the false idol or whatever it name is, the next boss after that is so bad to fight against as a mage that I'm reconsidering to restart the game a THIRD TIME to make another knight
Nothing still beats the super massive jump in difficulty in between NG and NG+ for bloodborne. Nothing also beats how hard the defiled chalices were 💀. Though optional, was very much one of the hardest I've went through.
BB Ng to NG+ was incredibly easy. You’re basically overpowered unless you’re being sarcastic.
Might’ve mistaken it for some of the chalices, but I didn’t do the dlc, any online chalices, or grind the blood gems.
most ng+ bosses straight up 1 to 2 shotted me. Especially Micolash and Rom’s adds.
All of them are challenging in their own ways and all are absolutely amazing
"Dark Souls 2 has the hardest" in regards to SL1
Interesting hearing that statement after watching another video showing how SL1 isn't that hard due to all the stat boasting items and how DS3 has a higher SL1 difficulty.
It’s because of adaptability
@jamesh2514 Search "Hardest Soul Level 1" and watch the video from ToweringPants. DS3 is much harder
Usually whatever game you play first ends up being the hardest in my eyes
Not true cause elden ring is a lot of peoples first you’d think it’s prepare them but actually it’d spoil them they aren’t ready for a real souls experience
Sekiro for me… then dark souls 2… had no issues finishing the rest of the soulsbornering games
I still truly feel like Dark Souls 1 is the hardest, even after playing every Soulsborne game. I felt this way when I played it for the first time and I still feel this way. It wasn’t even my first Soulsborne game, it was my last (this was when the newest one was Dark Souls 3).
The environments are hellish. Blighttown, Sen’s Fortress, Anor Londo, Tomb of the Giants, Duke’s Archives…they’re all major gauntlets to overcome. Taking Sen’s Fortress as an example, there’s never been anything in the series as punishing as that gauntlet. The environments want you dead at all times. Environmental hazards are at an all time high for the series, everything wants you dead, from the ground, to the walls, to the rocks. And let’s not forget the hardest non boss section in the series…the Anor Londo archers. It’s ridiculous, man.
Even going back to play DS1 now, I never feel safe in this game. Elden Ring? Pffft bosses are tough but the world is easy to navigate. Sekiro? Tough combat, but again the world is easy to navigate. The only one I would compare to DS1 in difficulty is Bloodborne, but in that game you always have the Hunter’s Dream to warp back to. You don’t have anywhere to go in DS1 until you get the Lordvessel.
No idea how DS1 has the reputation of being one of the easiest. Play DS1 and then play DS3 for example. Night and day difference. In DS3 you feel mobile, you feel SAFE, you don’t feel like the entire world is out to get you.
haven't played sekiro but I agree with everything you said.
i think one thing you forgot about in elden ring is how easy it is to sunder the bosses. you get way more crit opportunities
Dark souls 3 bosses were easy but the locations in it were so difficult
hardest to easiest:
1. Dark Souls - Scarce bonfires, cramped spaces, deadly environments to traverse no fast travel, hardcore RPG elements, get backstabbed from the front, don't know where to go. Bosses except for a few are easy for the most part.
2. Bloodborne - Very hard to learn aggressive playstyle in the early game. Once you get the early game down the rest isn't as bad. Late game bosses don't do that much damage.
3. Dark Souls 2 - BS ambush situations, extremely clunky, complicated areas filled with enemies that don't let up. Bosses are a joke.
4. Dark Souls 3 - Late game areas and bosses are very difficult. Linear paths mean you don't get lost.
5. Demon Souls - Some boss runbacks are absurd. Areas can be difficult. Bosses aren't very challenging.
6. Elden Ring - Nothing about this game is hard unless you go about crippling yourself. Spirit summons take agro. Can run away from conflict with the horse. Plenty of ways to get powerful before progressing through the game. No boss runbacks. If you were to raw dog it and play it like dark souls then it is the.
Sekiro isn't a souls game.
Lore accurate tarnished 8:09
Elden ring without summons pure melee is by far the hardest
Strength bonk builds make the game so easy. Never understood why all strength users say any other type of playstyle is cheesy. I mean with melee just grab a big ass weapon or two and keep poise braking and stun locking everything lol
obviously its going to be harder if your purposely handicapping yourself 🙄
Pure melee is imo easier than ranged seeing as bosses hard counter the encouraged ranged playstyle as you get farther into the game. It’s really clutch that int builds have the mlgs because comet don’t work so good against bosses built for the melee flow
Sekiro and ds3 are still harder even with that, Elden ring has the hardest bosses that way but the level design is so much more forgiving, u could argue bb is still harder too just bec of the levels, and it isn’t just the levels bec bb dlc has even harder bosses than Elden ring
@@MattDean-o1tyea with input reading from bosses especially bosses like malenia sorcery doesn’t really feel cheese to me . . I’m talking if you’re playing like a regular sorcerer just glintstone shard/cometshard spam etc none of that 20 buffs/terra magicka/glass cannon comet azure stuff . .
Perfect timing on the vid, I just downloaded the demon souls remake, and dark souls 1 remastered after beating elden ring and loving it (I played these 2 back when I was a kid but didn't understand anything about them and because I had them through gamefly I decided not to keep them for very long)
lol I love that transition between RL 1 and overleveled bullgoat characters
Sekiro is by far the hardest due to not having build variety (the difficulty slider of any fromsoft game) in any form. Elden ring can be the easiest or the second hardest, or anywhere inbetween, based on how you choose to play it. Dark souls 2 and 3 are about as hard as each other, but for very different reasons. Whether you find crowd control or memorizing boss patterns more difficult will decide which you struggle more with.
Dark souls 1 is a test of endurance, as well as one of the most atmospheric games I've ever played, but I jumped into the series with 3 so the bosses all felt pretty straightforward.
I'm strictly PC so I cant speak to bloodborne or demon souls.
I have platinum on all of them except DS2, and my personal opinion is Elden Ring is probably the hardest depending on how you play it and getting through the first playthrough. The late game bosses have such a big difficulty spike with insane damage output, and then the variable timing windows of attacks just keeps you on your toes. I'd probably put Sekiro in second place, but when it finally clicks it's one of the easier games.
Just for fun, the hardest Soulslike in my opinion is Lies of P just because the parry windows are unforgiving. The hardest boss or maybe most poorly designed boss in a Soulslike goes to Spawn of Oggdo in Star Wars Jedi Survivor.
Whichever one you play first
I would like to say that going from ds3 or elden ring to ds1 is really hard because the ds1 movement is so much slower than ds3 and elden ring and it tricks your brain, it’s mainly why i gave up in blight town and restarted
In the contrast i’d say that sulyvahn no light shield is the hardest ds3 boss(non dlc), nameless king is radahn difficulty at best elden ring wise, took me 3 tries in phase 2 because the first 2 i was happy to be out of camera hell and got nervous
Sekiro is the hardest imo for one simple reason: The only way out is through. Every other game gives you alternative strategies and opportunities to create advantages for yourself. ER has the most safety blankets for those who wish to use them. There are a million ways to get stronger, level up, use busted summons, outright skip areas until you're comfortable coming back etc. All the games have this to varying extents. Only Sekiro forces you to face the boss with your skills alone, and minimal opportunities to tip the odds in your favor using other variables.
Sekiro is the hardest because it’s the only game where you can’t summon 2 or more of your friends and watch them solo the boss for you as you do a pacifist run. It wins by default
It really depends how you play elden ring. If you play purely solo and no cheese builds, its probably harder than any of the others. One of my friends has beaten BB, legit had the most trouble on lawrence and beat OOK in 8 tries. But this guy was STRUGGLING on Niall, margit, rellana etc
For me personally it was Elden ring, iv played ds, ds2, ds3, bloodborne, and I don’t know what it was about Elden ring, but it’s just felt different to me, so different that I struggled on the first boss at least 100 times
Removing kuro’s charm also makes enemies take less dmg, even more so than rigning demon bell. Ringing the demon bell does not really do much imo. I still hit inner isshin big enough to see gray color when his hp diminishes, not so when im charmless (even without demon bell rung). And there is a levelling up system in sekiro too
As for action packed - you cannot cancel animation in sekiro so you cannot spam attack and if the enemy suddenly hyperpoise you cannot deflect/dodge impromptu. So it is still like elden ring in that you have to make sure to wait for the combo to end if you think you cannot recover from atk animation fast enough if you r1 between enemy’s sword swing. Which sucks for a game purportedly encouraging aggressive playstyle. In short, souls games are made for noobs too craven to take risks if sekiro is their prime example of agressive-playstyle-encouraging game
Interesting opinions I’ve only beat Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne and Elden Ring.
1.) the healing system
2.) mobs are harder than the bosses
3.) the DLC mainly because I played on NG+ and accidentally kill Gehrman with the assumption it would ask me if I’d roll over to NG+. Orphan wasn’t as bad as everyone says to me at least. Laurence and Lady Maria along with Ludwig were a pain
Honestly asides from Laurence and some NG+ enemies it wasn’t that bad
So my Ranking would go easiest to hardest:
Bloodborne
Dark Souls 3
1.) Midir and late game mobs
2.) Sister Friede, Demon Princes
3.) Lorian and Lothric
4.) early game is very unforgiving at low levels and no upgraded weapons
I found DS3 NG+ to be veeeerrrryy unforgiving late game but that’s to be expected, Midir had me tweaking when I one shotted him on NG
Elden Ring (no summons)
Ah my first souls game….
Souls VETS and Snobs… REAAALLLYYY want to say Elden Ring is easy. Yes you can summon a tanky mimic of yourself with bleed proc cheeses and you can cheese the boss yourself with some spells. Buuut if you had to play it organically the bosses are absolutely more ridiculous than any other souls game bosses asides from Sekiro. They fight like Devil May Cry characters. Dodging is hell. The DLC even proves that. So if you play without cheeses and summons I guarantee Elden Ring and Sekiro tie (I’ve heard Sekiro is insane).
Bosses: Messmer, Malenia, Consort Radahn, Bayle, Scadutree Avatar, Radagon and The Elden Beast. Rellana, Astel Stars Of Darkness, Mohg, Morgott, Fire Giant. Hell, Starscourge Radahn and Commander Niall. ALL of These bosses…. Are immensely harder than 60% to 80% of Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne. Honestly I found a lot of bosses in Bloodborne and DS3 to be jokes and they are designed to be FOUGHT SOLO. Elden Ring is definitely designed with summoning in mind, I mean, look at all the different summons. Elden Ring may be more accessible but you can also farm and level in DS3 and BB, so I find that argument bullshit. Elden is by far the hardest FromSoft game and that’s me being bold not even playing Sekiro. I was stuck on Malenia, Messmer, Chadahn, Chadagon and many other bosses for days and hours. just because it’s a lot of people’s entry into souls, doesn’t make it easy. The only reason I haven’t finished DS1 is the mobs and run backs. DS2 I’ll pass. Sekiro, I’ve seen enough on it and that one doesn’t interest me.
Souls vets call ER easy, then call a boss unfair and ‘unintuitive’ when they’re stuck on it. Pathetic people
Souls community in a nutshell 😂
@@Stanzbey69 oop meant to reply to you
@@yeahnahmate7 only the self proclaimed ‘vets’. The souls community is one of the most fun communities to be in, no matter what butthurt critics like joseph anderson try to tell you. The only negative is the self proclaimed ‘souls vets’
@@Stanzbey69 not sure, I see a lot of people arguing who don't mention being souls vets. But yeah they can be good as well.
I remember using the Moonveil in Elden Ring and literally breezing through the game.
For my 2nd playthrough i used a regular Katana just to purposely make the game more difficult.
demon’s souls ng was a breeze BUT i find ng+ extremely difficult. every other game is easier on ng+ and beyond, but demon’s is so hard, i’d rather just start a new game and breeze through again.
for me and how i play the game assuming its without summons id say Demons souls, ds1,ds2,sekiro,ds3,bloodborne,elden ring
9:35 Based! You have this guy saying it is okay to cheese and play however you want right after he shows an incredible RL1 clip and then there are those edlords all over the internet telling people how they enjoy the game is wrong and they should be ashamed.
So true. Though some styles does lessen the enjoyment of the fight, if you at least enjoyed it, then it served its purpose.
However, if you don't do certain things that the game sets up and then complain how hard it is, then we got a problem (e.g. trying to solo the co-op areas in DS2 when they were set up to be played as a team and then go complain how unfair they are or complaining how difficult the first guy in ER is after just going straight to him without really exploring the open world).
Plus they are easily doable while solo just extremely hard. No one cares when we say they were highly optional areas that aren't even in the main path of the game you gave to actively seek them out@@Ironica82
@@Ironica82All the ds1 players were complaining about not enough challenge and Fromsoftware listened and added these torture areas for all the veterans of the games and then they turned around and complained about it lmao dweebs
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Stop looking to others for validation and just do what pleases you.
My memory of most games are not so fresh but here you go Easy to hardest (boss difficulty+environment difficulty) = elden ring (l2 spam ftw, even without summons), demons, ds1, ds3, bloodborne, ds2, sekiro.
Coming from someone who started Dark Souls 1 and 3, Elden Ring, then Sekiro. They still don’t compare to Dark Souls 2. First time trying to figure out Dark Souls 2 mechanics of the game was a nightmare. Mechanics are wonky, you move slow as hell, confusing stats to understand, The games map is all over the place, hard to play with friends, sure the enemies are slower but you get horrible health in this game and if it is your first time playing trying to understand the game good luck. Maybe it was just me but idk. It’s the only game I’ve quit in 15 years. Malenia didn’t make me quit
Bloodborne for a first run because if you run out of vials you either farm for some or just run it back and start again and hope you cleanly defeat the first few bosses. Also, once you get to Amelia if you aren’t using the +4 Saw with fire paper. You’re almost fucked if you have no idea what her moveset is because she will hit you hard, plus she heals 50-75 percent through the fight which at that point you’re almost screwed.
On my mother's life, I've cleared ER like 9 times and BB once, BB is WAYYYYY WAYYYY easier than ER, even on my first playthrough. Most bosses I did in first try, CANNOT say the same about ER. Even with summons that game was HARD as FUCK. Even now when I know basically every bosses moveset I still don't clear them first try
elden ring is the easiest in the series.. open world trivializes every area as if you explore everything you naturally become overlevelled
@phillyhillbilly5649 yea but overlevelling means jack shit against a boss like Niall, malenia, maliketh etc who will melt u if u can't get good. Only really in early game does that make a difference. And here's a thought: if you're ovelevelled in any other souls game, that trivialises that game way more than it does in ER
i mean thats true but overlevelling is way harder and monotonous to achieve in the souls series.. elden ring to me just gives way to much opportunity to abuse the open world design and summons to be considered hard since theres a fun and easy path around the difficulty. elden ring has some tough bosses but navigating the world is easy and the dungeons arent too hard either
@phillyhillbilly5649 true but don't say it's too easy if you are overlevelling and/or summoning. On a first playthrough sure, but if u do a solo run on NG+ or just a new game you will find it WAY harder
@@malikpittman6376 thats not the point.. you can make any game hard by not levelling or by not using certain mechanics. if the way the game is designed makes it inherently easier then it is in fact an easy game. they designed elden ring to be more forgiving to the masses which is why it became so popular, but also why its just an easier game..
Storm King run back is like 20 feet.
Hardest thing on Bloodborne was the combination of Giant Beasts where you can't really see what they hin you with and 30 FPS... that hurts. Sekiro is not easy, but doable as soon as you get the hang of the parry/combat system. I struggeled most with the hard Elden RIng bosses like Prime Radahn or Malenia (solo, with the mimic they're also more doable)
if elden ring is a souls game then so is sekiro and bloodborne right?
so for me me it hardest to easiest goes: sekiro, demon's souls, ds2, ds3, elden ring, bloodborne, ds1
but thats far from objective since this is pretty much the same list as "the one i played least to the one i played most"
As another guy said "the hardest souls game is your first" ts couldn't be more true because the silver knight archers in anor Londo ds1 had me cooked for aaaaaages
I agree that Sekiro is the most difficult. By the time I reached the first mini-boss, I thought the game was genuinely impossible until I figured out the rhythm of the game. It's extremely difficult to initially learn, turns into a challenging game when you figure it out, and becomes the easiest by the time you beat it. Among Souls, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring, I'd say Demon's Souls was the hardest for me. I played Demon's Souls Remake after getting the platinum trophy in all the other games. I didn't cheese a single one. Demon's Souls felt the most difficult because I'd end up in pure black world tendency sometimes and make the game impossible for myself. Also, it was the most difficult in the first stages of every area. Once I killed the first boss in every area, it would typically take me 30 minutes at most to finish the last segment.
I guess we are not considering Kings Field franchise
What makes ds2 also harder is how insanely slow the healing animation of the estus flask is. Combined with delayed attacks. Its crazy how noticable it is when you compare it to the newer games and when youre used to the faster paced playstyle. Definetly a top 2 spot imo
It depends which one you play first, video over.
I honestly agree. I ranked those games the same as you did. Even when reviews and some people claimed that new Elden Ring DLC have hardest bosses in From Soft history I was like "do you remember what tarnished is capable of?" because you have so much freedom and so many obvious ways to make fights easy, while Bloodbourne and Sekiro design is really tight and you have way less options to deal with enemies in some straightforward cheesy way, unless there is some bug exploit you can find online.
So yeah I came to same conclusion that Bloobourne and Sekiro are still most difficult FromSoft games.
Elden ring is wayyyyy harder than BB playing solo. Yes I know you can summon and get cheese builds, BUT if you don't, objectively ERs bosses are way harder
I've only played (and platinumed) Elden Ring, Bloodborne and most recently, Sekiro. Demon's Souls is next. I'm also not looking forward to DS2 but I'm up for the challenge haha
DS1 and 2 are also both fantastic. If you love the other games, you’ll love those one too probably.
I always play with a great sword and the heaviest armor, I’d say with this build from easiest to hardest ds1-ds2-Elden ring-ds3-bloodborne(cause it doesn’t have my standard build)
personally i'd still say elden ring's dlc, i've finished sekiro with its boss rush mode, but maaaaaan that dlc is super tough that i'm still stuck on messmer but i'm not sure if that's mostly because i skipped almost half of the base game since i didn't save my first playthrough and didn't feel like playing through everything again so i ended up underleveled but still, almost all elden ring's dlc bosses are so brutal even compared to sekiro
what are your thoughts on ac6? i find it to be simultaneously the hardest and easiest of the 8 games. great list 🤘
How about the demons souls ps5 remake?
For me sekiro was the hardest to get into it because how slow it clicked to me.
Overall i would say i enjoyed all of the games that even if i would get stuck somewhere, it wouldn't frustrate me and so it didn't feel hard. But some ds2 levels, malenia and prime consort radahn felt truly frustrating at times.
Man I forgot how broken Demon's Souls claymore was.
DS2 is unironically decent if your goal is getting good, just level ADP and don't aggro every single enemy unless you can take them out. It's not DS3 nor ER, where you can just run through areas without being severely punished. I agree with the difficulty placement, it's not that difficult if you take your time with the enemies. I don't think Sekiro is hard, the parry window is too generous. Only Demon of Hatred made me struggle a little bit.
I’ve played Elden Ring, Bloodborne and Sekiro (currently playing ds3), and tbh they’re all difficult in their own respective ways (except for Elden Ring, that game was just really easy for me), Sekiro is rough but really easy once the combat clicks, and Bloodborne’s base game is really easy but the later chalice dungeons and dlc are extremely tough, so it’s hard to rank them to me
The only problem I have with this video is that Sekiro isn’t a Souls game, it’s a rhythm action game. Other than that, great video.
The clip of you beating maliketh with those stats and the stuff you had astonishes me your amazing man and keep up the good work you just gained a sub 😁🫡👍
If you play elden ring like dark souls it’s the hardest one. If you ay elden ring like elden ring then it’s the hardest one. That’s how I see it
Sekiro has zero cheese and is by far the hardest because of that. Every other game can be made easier with the right combination of playstyle, gear and OP weapons. You can beat them without learning the mechanics or the bosses, especially Elden Ring, but that is impossible with Sekiro, because even with Shinobi tools, you will eventually hit a roadblock that cannot be overcome with anything other than getting good.
There's a lot of cheese just not in the normal sense of "I hit enemy 50% bar, he hits for 2%". Name a boss and there is a way to cheese it, or make fight trivial. A lot of bosses are looped, other lot are scripted. There's still some skill involved in cheesing but same can be said about soulsring cheeses.
The answer: the first one you play
Considering level 1 play, still Elden Ring will be hardest aside from terrain and runs which are harder in souls trilogy. Easiest would be Sekiro if the mechanic is properly mastered cuz u can just get posture break with perfect parry so hp doesn't even matter if u don't plan to get hit and boss health pool doesn't matter either
Demon souls might have easy bosses, but the levels were so frustrating that I didn’t finish the game. On the other hand, I loved Elden ring and got the platinum trophy within a few weeks of buying it
Can't decide between Prime Consort Radahn and Inner Isshin.
This is a nice video and some valid opinions. I wouldnt really agree with you on some of these but you bring up some good points. A playstyle can definitely impact your experience, as it did mine. I really like parrying which is why I breezed through sekiro. This would be my current ranking (I havent played ds3 yet)
6. Demons Souls
5. Dark Souls 1
4. Dark Souls 2
3. Sekiro
2. Elden Ring
1. Bloodborne
The games just got easier for me over time, as I learned the timing for each game, but I'll never forget the struggle on cleric beast and vicar amelia
Easiest to hardest:
Demon Souls
Dark souls 3
Dark souls
Elden Ring
Sekiro
Bloodborne
Dark souls 2
Dark souls 2 is only the hardest not due to any actual challenge in the game, but due to bullsh*t like having I-frames ne tied to a stat you have to kevel up, crappy hit boxes, insane boss runs, and more.
For Elden Ring, pre-dlc I would've put it probably second easiest, but Shadow of the Erdtree really upped the ante.
Dark souls iii: enjoyable meal
Elden Ring : A bit more spicy
Sekiro: Hot
Demon Souls on PS3 was hardest because it was my first souls.
I agree with the statement of difficulty being subjective. What i mean is for me the game itself isn't difficult, the system is fine, but for me, doing runbacks and excessive exploring is hell, which is why DS2 is the hardest for me.
Which game is the hardest? The first one you play, especially if you were a kid when it released. It gets easier as you get better, which carries over to subsequent games. There's a reason why 'get gud' is a saying.
ehhh, DeS is considerably harder than DS1, mainly just because it was less forgiving with deaths.
The games aren’t necessarily hard … they just demand your focus . All the enemies/bosses have predetermined rules/movements/agros….once you learn those rules you learn how to bend the game in your favor
ER is both the easiest and hardest one. When using everything at your disposal, even radahn isnt too hard, when playing it like any other souls game, its insanely hard. And for sekiro, as you said, once it clicks its easy, before it clicks, its insanely hard
For now I have only played Elden Ring, ds3 and sekiro and here's my ranking: Elden Ring is definitely the easiest, if you summon a mimic every fight and use the tools that are given to you, the game just becomes a cake walk, I beat the first part of the game with summons and quit them at farum azula, and that made farum azula the hardest area for me and maliket the hardest boss, and whwn I eventually caved in and summoned for malenia, me and my mimic tear first tried her. Summoning is just so op, and I'm sad that it's in the game because fighting without it is just twice as fun. Next hardest is ds3, early game was pretty easy, but I had the experience from elden ring, so that's to be expected, but the game really gets hard at the end and with the dlc, midir is maybe not the deadliest, but definitely the lenghtiest, and Gael is the best boss I have ever played. The hardest for sure tho is Sekiro, the game is just so thight that many times parrying is harder than dodging and there's no way to gring, I mean yeah you could farm ako's sugars to up your attack but you still have to eat it mid-fight and the posture dammage doean't even change. it's also the only game I have abandonned, but I returned to it and am now heating it in hard mode
I don't know man. BB and Elden Ring were incredibly easy with the exception of certain bosses. You just have to make sure you don't pull aggro on massive mobs. Remove the mobs from BB and it's a fucking cakewalk until bosses like amygdala and orphan. The hardest thing about BB is the ledges and ladders.
This is a good list, i like the way you think
6:35 god bless dude finally someone that gets it. why the hell do you need to lvl str/dex with a +0 wep. lvl that vigor and you wont have to touch the stat again until the 2nd half of the game
same thing in ds2 ironically, but with adp. lvl your str/dex to use your weapon, then adp to 99agi and youre good. theres no reason to level a damage stat when your shitknife +1 has a D scaling with Dex
I was watching this without video and knew you were talking about gwynevere
I think ER is the hardest. Leaving out Sekiro. ER is the most approachable but o still think it’s the hardest. I played DSR and went back to BB and DS3 after spending a year in ER and I plowed through them all with very little issue. Went back to ER for the expansion and it was much more difficult compared to all the others.
DS3 is the game where I really got stuck on bosses the most after Sekiro, don't understand how DS2 and bloodborne are considered easier
The only 2 things which were hard for me in Bloodborne:
1. Going into DLC on level 30. I struggled all the way up to Ludwig and said, enough is enough. Came back at the lol 110 and breezed through the rest of the DLC without a drop of sweat.
2. Freaking chalice dungeons. I don't know what's worse, the difficulty level in the cursed ones and beyond. Of the repeatative nature of them. Easily the worst part of the game and one of the worst in the whole soulsborne series.
Other than that, I can't imagine what is so difficult about Bloodborne. Farming vials?
I still consider Elden Ring to be the easiest in the franchise by far, just for the fact that the game gives you an INSANE amount of tools to use, and the fact that it’s open world and you can do a million things before facing the boss.
Still a 10/10 masterpiece for sure.