The fuel consumption difference is a neat little factor at play here, that V8 just about redlining up the hill with the diesel just chugging along. For this type of track I’d go with the diesel, for top end performance and sand & gravel I’d pick the petty for fun points 😂
@@micstar-3213 A characteristic of diesel engines is that they 'chug along' nicely at low rpms with lots of torque compared to most petrol engines. Making them better on a lot of impractical 4x4ing tracks. It's just a simple expression mate, only a drugged up spastic would follow my comment up with that 😂
Diesels can just use their torque whilst petrol needs to use momentum to do the same job. But if the track is very bumpy like here and difficult to manoeuvre in, then momentum will be halted so diesel is better.
A decent horsepower petrol will still have good torque & will crawl a hill as good as a diesel. I have a Patrol 6cyl TDI Ute & a Lexus 4.7 V8 petrol wagon & much prefer the petrol for overall performance. The diesel actually uses about the same amount of fuel as the petrol, if not more. Personal choice I guess. 👍🏼😊
@@kenworth159it doesnt. The whole fkn point with diesels is to create more torque at lower RPM’s Thats like saying a petrol and diesel engine Will use the same amount of fuel over a Long distance. Just isnt true. Lower Rpm means less fuel being ignited. I have literally driven both a diesel and a petrol version of the same excact car and the difference is immense. You need a lot more horsepower and therefore more fuel in a petrol car. Like the fiestas I tried myself were of the same HP output and yet one had way more torque than the other without more horsepowers
@@magnipettersson4432There are a lot of other factors at play in your hypothetical situation. Car weight, tyre size/type, gearing etc. For instance, my 1kz Prado used far more fuel than my 2uz Landcruiser, and was a lot slower.
@@magnipettersson4432 I literally have both the vehicles mentioned sitting in my backyard. I drive them both on random trips & I can tell you they both use around the same amount of fuel on the highway. Offroad the diesel will use less for sure as it will work at lower revs where the petrol V8 will be at higher revs to maintain torque. You said it yourself, diesels have more torque at lower revs. I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m just saying that petrols have decent torque as well. My diesel has been tuned on the dyno & runs at peak performance so the fuel consumption is the best it will get.
@kenworth159 feel like this guy made the comment without even watching the video, you can see the petrol rolls in slowly then just takes off up the hill, being able to use its rpm while the diesel has to carry a ton of speed in and is bucking around the so called low end torque is a fallacy it's not useful unless towing on blacktop or in full traction low speed situations, full traction low speed happens close to never when off-road
I'll tell you what's better knowing how to drive in different terrains. Knowing when to let eric out of your tire and put air back in it, knowing to have the proper tire tread for the terrain you're trying to conquer
Having a high hp petrol v8 for off-road is all good until you snap an axle. I had an old short wheel based patrol with a 427 in it & used to snap axles constantly it was fun for a bit but it gets old real quick when you're constantly having to do repairs while everyone else isn't.
Yeah you need to have well dialled in suspension and make sure bushes are mint or you’ll start bouncing and become prone to snapping axles. Same in the diesels, but the petrols will generally be doing these activities with higher wheelspeeds
There used to be a bright yellow 80's shorty with a 383 that was a regular at Calder Park in the early 2000's... The guy used to drive it there, run 9's all night and drive it home... Was pretty cool seeing it launch that hard it almost scrapped the bumper every pass
@@troythomas9505you must be so dumb😂 pets burn faster than diesel mate and diesel vehicles last longer!💪🏽 do yourself a favour and invest in a diesel 4x4! Trust a mechanic who has over 30 years experience!
Nothing to do with fuel type but petrol had open front diff and diesel had LSD or locked front. A good driver will be able to get further with less rpms and sudden shock loads to drivetrain. That petrol is way more likely to snap an axle or cv
Diesel is a lot better for such vehicles! Firstly - you have more torg - probably 25% for the same displacement.. Secondly - the consumption is definitely around 30% less!
For comparison sake, petrol/gasoline will make more horsepower on average but! A diesel hence thanks to its design will make more torque and when it comes to anything physical as in offroading, hauling, or towing? You need torque not power. Power is good but if you can't pull with it you'll spin your wheels out and that's it. You need that force to pull/push in the end plus fuel economy, diesels are way more fuel efficient
For this use diesel is better, for racing on a flat road petrol destroys diesel. It’s all about the usage, and diesels have way more torque than petrol.
Ngl just looking at the comments I think too many people sleep on petrol powered engines, and sure diesels have better low end torque but you can definitely make petrol off road rigs work just as good
As I put my bluetooth headphones on, my eardrums are blessed with the tickling sensation after hearing that v6/diesel version of the Nissan Patrol Thanks Guys🫨😏🤤
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Petrol definitely sounds better. lol
Tires, 4wd system, weight, balance, wheel base and width are all more relevant questions than fuel type.
Don’t forget ground clearance
But the question isn't. What drivetrain is better. Its what fuel is better
But the course doesn't test the parameters.. @@bodandron5255
Unless down hill engine braking driving.
Dont forget
The driver experience
Turbocharged inline diesels are the best engines ever made. They last forevery and make all the power you want. But nothing sounds like a gas v8
The fuel consumption difference is a neat little factor at play here, that V8 just about redlining up the hill with the diesel just chugging along. For this type of track I’d go with the diesel, for top end performance and sand & gravel I’d pick the petty for fun points 😂
Diesel chugging along ?? Are you on drugs 😂
@@micstar-3213 A characteristic of diesel engines is that they 'chug along' nicely at low rpms with lots of torque compared to most petrol engines. Making them better on a lot of impractical 4x4ing tracks. It's just a simple expression mate, only a drugged up spastic would follow my comment up with that 😂
The big thing with diesels off road is the low down torque too
@@bathurstsw20 V8s also are great for low down torque
@@micstar-3213 he just about blew the engine
They both sound wicked
Diesels can just use their torque whilst petrol needs to use momentum to do the same job. But if the track is very bumpy like here and difficult to manoeuvre in, then momentum will be halted so diesel is better.
A decent horsepower petrol will still have good torque & will crawl a hill as good as a diesel. I have a Patrol 6cyl TDI Ute & a Lexus 4.7 V8 petrol wagon & much prefer the petrol for overall performance. The diesel actually uses about the same amount of fuel as the petrol, if not more. Personal choice I guess. 👍🏼😊
@@kenworth159it doesnt. The whole fkn point with diesels is to create more torque at lower RPM’s
Thats like saying a petrol and diesel engine Will use the same amount of fuel over a Long distance. Just isnt true. Lower Rpm means less fuel being ignited.
I have literally driven both a diesel and a petrol version of the same excact car and the difference is immense.
You need a lot more horsepower and therefore more fuel in a petrol car. Like the fiestas I tried myself were of the same HP output and yet one had way more torque than the other without more horsepowers
@@magnipettersson4432There are a lot of other factors at play in your hypothetical situation. Car weight, tyre size/type, gearing etc.
For instance, my 1kz Prado used far more fuel than my 2uz Landcruiser, and was a lot slower.
@@magnipettersson4432 I literally have both the vehicles mentioned sitting in my backyard. I drive them both on random trips & I can tell you they both use around the same amount of fuel on the highway. Offroad the diesel will use less for sure as it will work at lower revs where the petrol V8 will be at higher revs to maintain torque. You said it yourself, diesels have more torque at lower revs. I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m just saying that petrols have decent torque as well. My diesel has been tuned on the dyno & runs at peak performance so the fuel consumption is the best it will get.
@kenworth159 feel like this guy made the comment without even watching the video, you can see the petrol rolls in slowly then just takes off up the hill, being able to use its rpm while the diesel has to carry a ton of speed in and is bucking around the so called low end torque is a fallacy it's not useful unless towing on blacktop or in full traction low speed situations, full traction low speed happens close to never when off-road
actually diesel is good for off road
why
Stupid comment
Higher torque
Torque and better swimmers 😊
Wheelspeed > Torque
the pet's unlocked but definitely looks more fun
Yeah and it had a rough diff in it at the time to she goes well
DIESEL POWER 💪
Almost all 4x4 diesel got runway engine and it fail 😂
True true
DISEL POWER
HELL YEA 💪💪💪
@@wellplayedwho9491 because bigger energy
If you trying to kill all the mosquitoes in the forest then you go with diesel
How butt hurt are the diesel drivers getting. Petrol has way more power every day of the week.
Decently modified TB48 all the way. So Petrol PATROL 🙂
td42 is way better 😂
I'll tell you what's better knowing how to drive in different terrains. Knowing when to let eric out of your tire and put air back in it, knowing to have the proper tire tread for the terrain you're trying to conquer
Well said, it’s all about skill & knowhow. 😊
A decent mapped diesel to. Make sure we can breath tomorrow also black smoke is a loss of power and fuel
Having a high hp petrol v8 for off-road is all good until you snap an axle. I had an old short wheel based patrol with a 427 in it & used to snap axles constantly it was fun for a bit but it gets old real quick when you're constantly having to do repairs while everyone else isn't.
Yeah you need to have well dialled in suspension and make sure bushes are mint or you’ll start bouncing and become prone to snapping axles.
Same in the diesels, but the petrols will generally be doing these activities with higher wheelspeeds
There used to be a bright yellow 80's shorty with a 383 that was a regular at Calder Park in the early 2000's... The guy used to drive it there, run 9's all night and drive it home... Was pretty cool seeing it launch that hard it almost scrapped the bumper every pass
of corse diesel,had lot more tork than a petrol! definitly diesel!💪🏻 but petrol had more sound that i like more!
Looks like some CREB track action there. ❤
I was thinking the same thing. That lovely red clay is insane when wet. 😮😊
Well petrol sounds better. All else subjective.
Nah, nothing beats the whistle of a turbo diesel
nah for offroad diesel sounds better
Loved the extra cab petrol
Petrol = recreational
Diesel = workman
Petrol power.
Wheelspeed > torque always.
There’s a reason why competition 4x4’s don’t use diesel very often…
There's a reason why middle eastern and African militia groups use turbo diesel toyota pickup trucks....
All the bigfoots have been scared away!
Id go for diesel because they look tuffer and are better on fuel
Petrol is better more strong and fuel gadge doesn't go down as much diesel uses a lot of fuel
@@troythomas9505petrol cars get lower mpg because they rev more and burn more fuel
@@troythomas9505 petrol would go down much quicker as is you get way less km/L, like nearly half depending on the car
@@troythomas9505you must be so dumb😂 pets burn faster than diesel mate and diesel vehicles last longer!💪🏽 do yourself a favour and invest in a diesel 4x4! Trust a mechanic who has over 30 years experience!
And is also more reliable because of lower rpm
That LS sounds mean as fuck
All that matters is the driver
Td42 for life
Diesel
👇
The sound ❤❤❤
You gotta turn those front wheels back-and-forth to get better traction
Torque wins every time
V8 turbo diesel patrol
They were not given the same power and torque. Petrol has a V8 engine while diesel has a V6 engine. So I prefer a diesel engine
Definitely some weight discrepancies between the 2.
What's better is Landscape video 🤣
haha made for reels which is for the phone mate! I have a full video on this via the channel
I think tires and depending which type of 4wheel drive you have play a big factor
This is literally my dad's habit goin out with his friends
Diesel simply because of the smoke trail.
Nothing to do with fuel type but petrol had open front diff and diesel had LSD or locked front. A good driver will be able to get further with less rpms and sudden shock loads to drivetrain. That petrol is way more likely to snap an axle or cv
Petrol POWER 💪
Petrol is all Rev and speed. Diesel is all torque.
Aussies know diesel is better on these tracks. Petty for high speed desert or beach driving.
Diesel has more torque but now that it matters all that much in mud😅
Wheelspeed > Torque.
Look up the 4age Hilux in NZ. Regularly embarrasses the hardiest of diesel trucks on very tough tracks.
@@izzy031096 yeah i know, i just said "not that it matters all that much in mud"
Diesels are better because there peak torque almost near idle
Diesel all the way
This looks like amazing fun...
Diesel any day, every day...
Diesel is always perfect
Damn rhat first one sounds sick
Diesel is a lot better for such vehicles!
Firstly - you have more torg - probably 25% for the same displacement..
Secondly - the consumption is definitely around 30% less!
The answer is always diesel and the it doesnt matter why.
Diesel if there is no emissions stuff. Otherwise petrol.😁
Petrol is all good until you get to a river crossing where the engine gets submerged. Then a diesel is far superior
Both of them are good. Petrol sounds like monster truck and diesel sound like turbocharger lol
For comparison sake, petrol/gasoline will make more horsepower on average but!
A diesel hence thanks to its design will make more torque and when it comes to anything physical as in offroading, hauling, or towing? You need torque not power. Power is good but if you can't pull with it you'll spin your wheels out and that's it. You need that force to pull/push in the end plus fuel economy, diesels are way more fuel efficient
you're acting like petrol engines don't have enough torque. also diesel isn't more fuel efficient
Diesel engines are built different. One word savage ❤
I would have a v8 patrol built tuff and a diesel would be the the go every where 4wd
Diesel 💯%
Grew up on a petrol Holden rodeo so have to go with the petrol on this one
They sound like beasts
Diesel. Always. More torque at lower rpm.
Petrol my opinion
For this use diesel is better, for racing on a flat road petrol destroys diesel. It’s all about the usage, and diesels have way more torque than petrol.
You can gun it more with petrol and doesn't roll coal and sounds nice
All depends what your doing really petrol doesn't like river crossings but definitely more fun in the bush
Diesel might be expensive but it’s worth it, plus diesel doesn’t blowup/explode. That’s why it’s good for boats,
Petrol has more rippems for fun but in This case he's running open diff, fix that and he wont have an issue with a hill like this.
Boosted petrol for mud..... boosted diesel for crawling
The type of engine isn't the limiting factor.
Diesel
V8 sounds hot
We all know petrol rules !! Sounds much better too !!
PETROL DOESNT RULE SHIT
The diesel sounds much better.
V8 petrol PATROL GU💪💪💪
Petrol
Petro, sounded nice
Petrol sounds way better and the engines are much easier & affordable to work on hands down.
Without a turbo petrol V8 wins
Although deseil is better for the application. Gas is much more fun
To me diesel is better
Patrol definitely sounds better 🤤
Diesal, it's easier to get in small or rural towns.
For me diesel sounds much better than petrol , sure gonna change my main car to a diesel one when I can.
Diesel is a real smoker
V8 gas vs 4 in line diesel???
Did bro really put a snorkel on a petrol engine? 😂
I still want a ZR2
I would say that it all depends on the situation.
Man that diesel just can't get no traction 😂. Uses less fuel tho
Go the petrol boi😂
Which one is the diesel?
Ngl just looking at the comments I think too many people sleep on petrol powered engines, and sure diesels have better low end torque but you can definitely make petrol off road rigs work just as good
I wanted a jeep before watching this vid. I still want one but am more aware.
Diesel definitely both sick 4x4 tho
As I put my bluetooth headphones on, my eardrums are blessed with the tickling sensation after hearing that v6/diesel version of the Nissan Patrol
Thanks Guys🫨😏🤤
There's no denying its alot more fun with petrol V8
Diesel anytime...
Maybe a little bias, but petrol for days!
Let me guess .. that track has a locked gates on it ...
Nope
I'd say gasoline simply because stock for stock your getting way more Rpms out of gas motors
Diesel is Best 👌 💪