Try Krisp for free and enjoy clear audio! krisp.ai/?ref=jarrodstech 0:11 The RTX 3070 Ti on the specs should be 125-150W, as is the case everywhere else. 2:14 Nvidia driver 512.15 apparently fixes the advanced optimus brightness issue (came out after the review was made) however I have tested this on the 5i Pro and confirmed that it does not fix the issue.
Can you please review on the ASUS TUF Dash F15 (2022)? Because the 2021 version had 4-6 cores so there's a big difference between last year and this year
Hey jarrod, i have just discovered how to (may be) fix the screen dimming issue when using advanced optimus dgpu mode. The solution here is to go in to window setting and display setting and turn on HDR, simple as that :)). The screen now go back to 497 nits(on my legion 7i 2021) and it's also apply the hdr effect like on optimus but the screen is now at maximum brightness like default, hope you check that out if it's work on your legion models.
Recieved my Legion 7 (5800h, 3070) and i love it! Changed RAM to 2x16Gb 2Rx8, put 2tb SSD and using it with external 3840x1600 monitor 👍! Found guide where now i can enable or disable `turbo boost` feature in power plan settings (there are guide via registry) and now my CPU is working at 3175mhz all cores, temps dropped by 15`C and on LOW settings at ext monitor resolution in BF1 and BFV temps are 67`C GPU, 72`C CPU 👍 at 80-120fps (G-Sync is Enabled too) ❤! GPU is using 115w power (Silent mode) and with CPU turbo boost disabled, when i change to Performance mode - ONLY GPU power changes to 130W+ 👍! P.S. My laptop display got some white spots at down side of screen, i think its from plastic frame but i can see them only on black screen, so its ok! Tested temps with closed and opened screen - the same (mby 1`C difference). One VERY big cooons - i need to open laptop to turn it ON...no button on side (like some other laptops have)... Looking for option (mby Wake on LAN via my mobile phone) but havent time for this... Jarrod, please make good guide with soft for android HOW TO ENABLE Lenovo Legion laptop via WAKE ON LAN option.
Hi Jarrod You videos on laptops are Over-Complete . But very less people can afford this costly laptop/s . Please try to consider thought of students , they need more budget friendly mid range (gaming) laptops costs between 1000$ - 1100$. Even a low spec model of Lenovo Legion 2022 is not between this price range.
@@igo1558 the legion 5 2022 has ascended to the midrange not budget anymore due to the magnesium alloy built so that spot now is left to the Ideapad gaming 3 of lenovo
JRod, the way you dipped the screen brightness of the edit as you spoke about it on the laptop is just one reason why this channel is the business. Every video is becoming more refined!Legend.
I've personally used Krisp during a few online interviews and the noise cancellation is actually really impressive. It didn't block all of the background noise for me, but it made my voice seem clearer so I consider that a win.
Glad Lenovo employed the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" method with this device. There are some bugs, but this appears to be one of the best laptops of the year. But if gaming is the use case, last year's model at a discount would be preferable
@@jamesw2831 new Model isn’t priced as high as Jarrod Says it will be but there is a cost up for DDR5 and a big cost up for 3070ti. Intel CPU is ok, AMD pricing went up
For this class of desktop replacement laptop, I'd rather have an overspecced PSU than an underpowered one even if it increases the carry weight so I agree with Lenovo's reasoning for bundling the 300w supply.
@Chicken Does Not Talk we aren't only speaking about 5i, think about a legion 7 with unlocked ryzen 9 or i9 cpu and add 170-180 watt 3080ti to it, idk you but in recent years laptops become so much powerful that people begin to choose portability and not losing that much power
Yes it's a minor inconvenience but at the end of the day makes a huge difference in overall performance and doesn't really matter because it's on the floor out of sight
I'd love an additional gaming measure: fan noise level and surface temps in the different performance modes after 30min of idling in a demanding game like Hitman 3 in native resolution and max settings. This would help a lot understanding the usability of the laptop for gaming. The stress test measures are worst case measures that do not really reflect what we will get in everyday usage.
That Krisp sponsor was pretty fun and original, love to see personalized ads! Last year there were issues with the HDMI 2.1 port, as while it was capable of 4k 120hz, it only managed it in 8-bit color rather than 10-bit, due to bandwith limitations. Has it changed? (I don't think it's a huge issue, but it's still something to keep in mind).
@@JarrodsTech thank you. Same as the 2021 models then. Lenovo has said it is because the hdmi lanes are split between the built in display and external display and there is no way to completely disable the lanes to the internal display.
Thanks to you help I picked up last year’s model of the legion 5 pro. It’s been great. It’s money we’ll spent. I upgraded the Ram and installed more storage. Thanks very much.
I just bought this exact spec, as an upgrade from my MSI GL72 72 GTX 1050ti that’s finally become too obsolete to enjoy. As well as the W button no longer working (No retreat) I can’t wait to see the difference between the two. I imagine it will be quite the experience. Thank you for the review.
Jarrod if you go into the Nvidia Control Panel and go to the top under the "desktop" menu you can place a GPU "selector" into the hidden icons on the taskbar. Must easier and more convenient way to switch GPUs on the fly since NV Control Panel can take awhile to open sometimes.
Much more detail review than 2021 model keep it up, our man Jarrod did amazing review in this Laptop I swear there's no one beat Jarrod in case of Laptop review, EVER
Watching on my Legion 5i i7 RTX 2060 2020 version, still looking brand new and having a smooth gameplay on Elden Ring. Will gonna buy Legion again next year gen or even 2024-2025. I think every year's Legion's laptop will gonna last you 4-6 years and still stay relevant.
Yes!!! Finally!!! I just got amd Legion 5 Pro from last year with RTX 3070 for $1399 from Walmart online, thinking it was too good of a deal to pass up because I was afraid Lenovo would want $2k+ for this year's Legion with 3070ti, and you just made me feel A LOT better about my purchase! Thank you!
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS COMMENT... Thank you thank you... Because of you I got the same deal.. Bought mine and it was afterwards immediately out of stock. Thank you once again... I just hope it does not have any quality control issues on delivery
This is the definitive review channel. Bookmarkee subscribed liked belled. Not a single other review channel go to as much detail as at once, and not a single other review even mentioned to which GPU the ports are connected.
This laptop has been great for me so far! The only gripe I have is the refresh rate toggle. Lenovo's 'Fn+R' doesn't work at all even when the panel has the ability to run at 60Hz and 165Hz, and it gets quite annoying having to launch Nvidia Control Panel to change it every time (Especially when you take it off wall power a lot). I had to download HRC Resolution Changer to resolve it with a macro.
@@TrackDaysDude I don't use Chrome personally as it eats way too much RAM for my liking. But no, there's little to no fan noise when using applications like Chrome that aren't heavy on CPU/GPU usage. If you're watching a 4K stream on Chrome or something, you may hear the fans turn on, but it won't be loud at all
@@TrackDaysDude Lenovo seems to use the same fan bearing as last year's, with improvement on blade fin size, so yeah the fan IS AUDIBLE on idle, you can hear it, but barely, only audible in a dead silent midnight, But beware, there's a wide spread complaint of a very audible high tone Humm coming from the fan bearing when it spin at its lowest rpm, it is confirmed to be a defect and Lenovo will replace it for free. I am one of those unlucky ones with problematic touchpad and audible Humm coming from both fan, I brought it to Lenovo service center and so far its been normal, touchpad working great, and the fans isn't giving me high tone Humm noise anymore, it's still spins at idle though, still giving me a barely audible whoosh noise, I don't mind it though, great laptop nonetheless
I bought this exact laptop in early March from the Lenovo UK store for 1750 GBP (without any codes applied, others have got it for as low as 1480 GBP) and I am just amazed at how well it performs. Everything is lightning quick, the laptop has 0 QC issues (apart from a slight trackpad rattle in the bottom right hand corner) and the gaming performance is incredible. The screen is gorgeous, the keyboard is great, fan noise is basically non-existent and the laptop looks like a professional device (maybe apart from the gamery feel of the backside where the ports are). For anyone considering this laptop who wants to ask any questions that Jarrod may not have covered feel free to ask!
@@TrackDaysDude Fan noise is barely audible even with multiple (15+) chrome tabs open. On idle it is silent and even when under load the fan noise is more than tolerable both intensity wise and sound wise (no whistling or high pitched noise). Of course quiet mode makes it even quieter but I find it slows down everything slightly. Not by much, it's just things aren't instant when under load as they are in auto or performance mode.
@@Klav1eR None at all, the performance continues to be amazing. My only complaint is the shockingly bad battery life. Battery lasts maybe an hour with battery saver, 60hz, low brightness, integrated graphics etc. Personally I use it as a desktop replacement and move it around from time to time (from my house to my girlfriend's for example) so I'm okay with the battery life but it would be nice to have the option of going somewhere without a power supply and being able to use my laptop. Enjoy, it is an amazing laptop!
My legion 5 pro just came in the mail yesterday. After more than a month of researching different laptops I’m proud to say that this has been one of the best decisions I’ve made technology wise. Installed two 2tb ssds and put windows 10 on it and it runs great
If it's the intel 12th gen model then you might actually be losing some performance since Windows 10 doesn't knows how to work with the hybrid architecture of the P and E cores of 12th gen as well as windows 11 does.
@@tryfergoodra552 honestly my girlfriend uses it more than I do to play dying light 2 on our tv so I can’t really tell you the exact temp but I know the fan isn’t really that loud if it’s not the only thing making noise in your room lol. It’s been very reliable and I haven’t ran into a problem yet
I have the lowest specs of the legion lineup in 2021. legion 5 with Ryzen 5 4600h+gtx1650ti+512ssd. and it is a great pc and I will NEVER replace it only for another member of the Legion family.
i got 5 Pro with 3060 and 5800 Ryzen with 32 g of faster RAM you suggested Jarrod, i absolutely love it!!! Playing my favorite games on my traveling on highest settings still. Never been so satisfied with a laptop and i had amazing selection in the past From Alienwares to ASUS G series etc been there done that but Lenovo rocks!!!
Anticipating a 2022 m16 asus and 2022 g15 asus review. Maybe a comparison video regardless if they're made or not I like to watch these videos. They're very informative and helped me out.
lenovo prices their kit artifically high so they can provide coupons afterwards. I don't love this policy but at the same time I like the way they have frequent promotional coupons/codes that usually to all products from a segment (e.g. gaming laptops)
I got the 3070ti version with 2tb SSD and 16gb DDR5 for $1850 before tax with a promo coupon and military discount. Seems pretty close to the price you referenced for the 3050 model that was listed. Makes me feel like I got a great deal, but I am not super computer literate. It arrives in 3 days, I'm excited to see how it is! I'm replacing a 4 year old MSI GE 72 Apache Pro... no matter what it is a huge upgrade! But it was definitely tough deciding between this and some of the ASUS offerings!
@Crispin Alexander omg I never replied I'm sorry. I LOVE IT! Have been able to enjoy really taxing games at ultra settings and it is light enough to be mobile when I need to work on the go!
I bought this model with the i7-12700H and RTX3070 Ti in June from Lenovo UK and discovered the LCD display to suffer from really bad IPS Glow and screen bleeding. The machine overall is good apart from the screen issue. However I really need to emphasize that Lenovo is really bad with their customer service from the onset of purchase up to dealing with my issue with the LCD screen. It is a shame because the laptop is a solid machine but Lenovo as a consumer company is utterly shambolic. They had me waited more than a week to deliver the laptop after purchase while they promised next day delivery. I contacted them about the IPS Glow and they sent a technician to my address to carry out repair. Long story short, it took them three attempts and on the last attempt their technician ended up scratching my laptop and leaving bulges on the bezels. To top it off, I sent the laptop to them under premium care to get it fixed and the received the laptop a week ago and have not started work and ignoring my emails. A fair warning to everyone, avoid LENOVO if you don't want to go through this nightmare.
For latencymon, maybe you can test an old laptop that was initially tested with windows 10 and do it now on windows 11. I think that will be a pretty solid proof of problem with windows
I am quite meticulous about laptops and I would have never guessed that Wi-Fi antennas at the front would hinder performance by that much. Seriously awesome review. 😃😃😃😃😃
One big problem I had with the Lenovo Vantage GPU modes was that the Hybrid and Performance Modes makes the GPU unusable in Photoshop, Illustrator, and Premiere Pro. I had to put it on Balanced Mode and uncheck that additional option. Took me awhile to figure out that those GPU modes were the culprit.
@@StefanUrkel Why? I don't have the tech knowledge for that one, lol. My best guess is that Photoshop cannot recognize it for some reason. Is it a bug? I sure hope so. I'm thinking it's partly on Lenovo and partly on Adobe.
I have last years 5i Pro with 11800H and 3070, great machine, smashes any game at 1600p, got it for a total of $1744 USD during black Friday, basically a steal.
@@akhilalexg I would get the rog advantage edition for 1500 usd it has a 6800m + 5900hx. 6800m is better than the rtx 3070 and alittle worse than the 3080
Excellent review! This review convinced me to purchase the Legion 5 Pro 6800H + 3070Ti! On an interesting note, advanced optimus appears on the spec sheet of the AMD version, but I haven't been able to turn it on for both the models I've had, even following your video ):
Optimus should be on be default generally. Here's some info on my website on how to turn it off in Vantage: jarrods.tech/how-to-turn-off-optimus-on-your-gaming-laptop/#Lenovo
5:35 happen to me a lot, I'm using an ideapad gaming 3(which has the same kb layout). When i'm typing fast, i kept accidentally pressing numpad instead of backspace.
Unfortunately, my first experience with Lenovo (Legion 7 16" AMD) has not been great. Touchpad failure 2 weeks in and Lenovo support hasn't been very helpful. Just taking me on a ride through their checklist. I will be sending the laptop back. I can't see myself going for another Lenovo laptop anytime soon. Anyone interested in Legion laptops, just beware the reliability and preferably purchase from a shop where you have walk-in returns as purchasing directly from Lenovo and dealing with their staff is a headache.
Had the opposite experience as you. Owner of a 1st gen 2020 Legion 5 AMD r5 gtx1650 with 120hz screen, upgraded by default in my country (Philippines) with Legion ultimate support (3yrs warranty, 24/7 phone/email support, onsite repairs, service) Support has been GREAT. I only had very minor touchpad issues after 1yr 2mos, and they replaced it after 5 days with email approval. I called them 2 months later for laptop cleaning services (it was still under warranty, didnt feel the need to open it myself), and they came by, cleaned the fans, and even repasted it with thermal grizzly kryonaut. Still enjoying 1yr and 2mos remaining warranty.
@@philbertaustinselda7066 I'm considering getting the extended warranty. I think I had seen a 4 year coverage for like $90 or so USD. Did you watch the service person perform the work? Did it seem do-able by yourself?
The performance in games isn't a lot, but the the difference in content creation production and the asthetic of the laptop itself is an improvement. Seems like they wanted to make something for a professional who also games. Right up my alley!
I think then i am going to buy the legion 5 (2021) with rtx 3060 , ryzen 7 5800H , 32gb ram ; because the difference is too small for performance compared to price
In 2022, with the increase of work-from-home, laptop webcams should be much better than they are. Webcam quality has become close to top priority for me when choosing a laptop to buy.
I've written about why webcams suck in the past, though it is a bit of an older post. Hopefully one day they will improve: jarrods.tech/why-do-laptop-cameras-suck/
Intel seems to be focused on the desktop replacement segment - expect to have access to AC power when using it. Battery life is really poor compared to Ryzen's offering. And with GPU prices dropping rapidly, I think we'll see start seeing laptop prices drop as well. Demand for laptops were higher in 2021 because you couldnt get a GPU at a reasonable price.
hi Jarrod, I notice that last year's 5 Pro has the Fn+R shortcut to change the refresh rate from 165Hz to 60Hz for longer battery life, but there's no mention of that shortcut in this review. So my question is that does this year's iteration have that shortcut or not?
Nvidia 511.79 and 512.15 have brightness issue. I reported it on the forum at 511.79, but it was ignored because too many people did not respond. Finally someone from nvidia contacted me. I sent him the device information and my tests. The problem is in SDR mode. In HDR mode the brightness works very well. In fact, it's growing much more steadily than any driver that has ever appeared. But SDR is skipping. I've uploaded it to the legion group if anyone wants to look at the tests I've done. My device is Legion 5 Pro 2021 R7 5800H and model with RTX3070. Also, variable refresh rate only works in driver 511.23. Variable refresh rate does not appear in windows 11 in any other driver.
@@JarrodsTech i think It means a panel-based error. Each panel has a different problem. HDR works very well on the 512.15 driver for me too, but SDR is horrendously dark :D I hope they fix it in the next driver. For example, there is one more problem. I think it's also related to the panel or nvidia and netflix... I don't know :S. When the monitor wakes up 1-2 minutes after entering "monitor auto power off mode", netflix H265/ cannot stream as 2K&4K. Either you need to put the device into sleep mode or you have to restart it. I tested for 2 weeks. Win11 - Win10 - Lenovo recovery media- 5 different bios - Oem drivers and nvidia drivers- Gsync off/On.... But nothing changed. There is probably a problem with the DRM protection when the monitor is turned off and on :D I couldn't do different tests because I didn't have any other devices. It would be good to try netflix top package on non-HDR but devices with 2k/4k panel and nvidia RTX card.
finally a higher end ideapad pro review! well intel 12th gen doesnt exactly makes laptop cost cheaper, better stick with the last year amd side with better discount in after a year :)
The price is rather steep. I saw a Legion 7 from last year model with Core i7-11800H, 32GB DDR4, 1TB NVMe, and Geforce RTX 3070 for the same price of this newer Legion 5 Pro with RTX 3050 Ti. For mostly gaming and sometimes video editing, is the older Legion 7 more worthy?
Do you anticipate the prices of the 30 series going down further? I'm about to pull the trigger on Legion 5i Pro Gen 7 Intel (16”) with RTX 3070 Ti, i7, 32 gb RAM and 2 tb storage but it's a little over 2K. I'd love to save a bit more money-unless this is as good a deal as I'll get.
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0:11 The RTX 3070 Ti on the specs should be 125-150W, as is the case everywhere else.
2:14 Nvidia driver 512.15 apparently fixes the advanced optimus brightness issue (came out after the review was made) however I have tested this on the 5i Pro and confirmed that it does not fix the issue.
Can you please review on the ASUS TUF Dash F15 (2022)?
Because the 2021 version had 4-6 cores so there's a big difference between last year and this year
Hey jarrod, i have just discovered how to (may be) fix the screen dimming issue when using advanced optimus dgpu mode. The solution here is to go in to window setting and display setting and turn on HDR, simple as that :)). The screen now go back to 497 nits(on my legion 7i 2021) and it's also apply the hdr effect like on optimus but the screen is now at maximum brightness like default, hope you check that out if it's work on your legion models.
Recieved my Legion 7 (5800h, 3070) and i love it! Changed RAM to 2x16Gb 2Rx8, put 2tb SSD and using it with external 3840x1600 monitor 👍! Found guide where now i can enable or disable `turbo boost` feature in power plan settings (there are guide via registry) and now my CPU is working at 3175mhz all cores, temps dropped by 15`C and on LOW settings at ext monitor resolution in BF1 and BFV temps are 67`C GPU, 72`C CPU 👍 at 80-120fps (G-Sync is Enabled too) ❤! GPU is using 115w power (Silent mode) and with CPU turbo boost disabled, when i change to Performance mode - ONLY GPU power changes to 130W+ 👍!
P.S. My laptop display got some white spots at down side of screen, i think its from plastic frame but i can see them only on black screen, so its ok! Tested temps with closed and opened screen - the same (mby 1`C difference).
One VERY big cooons - i need to open laptop to turn it ON...no button on side (like some other laptops have)... Looking for option (mby Wake on LAN via my mobile phone) but havent time for this...
Jarrod, please make good guide with soft for android HOW TO ENABLE Lenovo Legion laptop via WAKE ON LAN option.
Hi Jarrod
You videos on laptops are Over-Complete .
But very less people can afford this costly laptop/s .
Please try to consider thought of students , they need more budget friendly mid range (gaming) laptops costs between 1000$ - 1100$.
Even a low spec model of Lenovo Legion 2022 is not between this price range.
@@igo1558 the legion 5 2022 has ascended to the midrange not budget anymore due to the magnesium alloy built so that spot now is left to the Ideapad gaming 3 of lenovo
JRod, the way you dipped the screen brightness of the edit as you spoke about it on the laptop is just one reason why this channel is the business. Every video is becoming more refined!Legend.
Second this. Jarrod should have at least a million subscribers with the quality and depth of the content that he provides.
I've personally used Krisp during a few online interviews and the noise cancellation is actually really impressive. It didn't block all of the background noise for me, but it made my voice seem clearer so I consider that a win.
Glad Lenovo employed the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" method with this device. There are some bugs, but this appears to be one of the best laptops of the year. But if gaming is the use case, last year's model at a discount would be preferable
In what other use does it makes good when comparing with that price?
Pricing is not correct
@@akhilalexg the current model? Content creator and CPU heavy tasks.
@@barrierankin2234 for which model? Current Legion 5i Pro or last year's model?
@@jamesw2831 new Model isn’t priced as high as Jarrod Says it will be but there is a cost up for DDR5 and a big cost up for 3070ti. Intel CPU is ok, AMD pricing went up
For this class of desktop replacement laptop, I'd rather have an overspecced PSU than an underpowered one even if it increases the carry weight so I agree with Lenovo's reasoning for bundling the 300w supply.
agreed
true king
@Chicken Does Not Talk we aren't only speaking about 5i, think about a legion 7 with unlocked ryzen 9 or i9 cpu and add 170-180 watt 3080ti to it, idk you but in recent years laptops become so much powerful that people begin to choose portability and not losing that much power
Yes it's a minor inconvenience but at the end of the day makes a huge difference in overall performance and doesn't really matter because it's on the floor out of sight
Especially since you can just get a small 100w gan charger for mobile use.
That sponsor period is the funniest sh*t I watched on RUclips for a while 😂😂
One of the best transitions to the video's sponsors that I've ever seen. Respect
I'd love an additional gaming measure: fan noise level and surface temps in the different performance modes after 30min of idling in a demanding game like Hitman 3 in native resolution and max settings.
This would help a lot understanding the usability of the laptop for gaming. The stress test measures are worst case measures that do not really reflect what we will get in everyday usage.
That Krisp sponsor was pretty fun and original, love to see personalized ads!
Last year there were issues with the HDMI 2.1 port, as while it was capable of 4k 120hz, it only managed it in 8-bit color rather than 10-bit, due to bandwith limitations. Has it changed? (I don't think it's a huge issue, but it's still something to keep in mind).
This. Would be very interested to hear if you were able to get 4k 120 at 10bit Jarrod? Thanks
I join the question. @Jarrod'sTech. Would you be able to check that and let us know? Thanks
It's 8 bit at 4K 120Hz, only 10 bit at 4K 60Hz. I will mention this in future reviews, this is only the first I started looking at 4K 120
@@JarrodsTech thank you. Same as the 2021 models then. Lenovo has said it is because the hdmi lanes are split between the built in display and external display and there is no way to completely disable the lanes to the internal display.
Thanks to you help I picked up last year’s model of the legion 5 pro. It’s been great. It’s money we’ll spent. I upgraded the Ram and installed more storage. Thanks very much.
Great to hear!
This review was absolute perfection... Honestly great job, Jarrod. God bless. 🙏
I just bought this exact spec, as an upgrade from my MSI GL72 72 GTX 1050ti that’s finally become too obsolete to enjoy. As well as the W button no longer working (No retreat) I can’t wait to see the difference between the two. I imagine it will be quite the experience. Thank you for the review.
That ad was on old Linus' level of quality, damn.
Jarrod if you go into the Nvidia Control Panel and go to the top under the "desktop" menu you can place a GPU "selector" into the hidden icons on the taskbar. Must easier and more convenient way to switch GPUs on the fly since NV Control Panel can take awhile to open sometimes.
Much more detail review than 2021 model
keep it up, our man Jarrod did amazing review in this Laptop
I swear there's no one beat Jarrod in case of Laptop review, EVER
My 1660 Ti Legion from 2019 is still going strong and it is used for work and gaming so it is running most of the day.
Watching on my Legion 5i i7 RTX 2060 2020 version, still looking brand new and having a smooth gameplay on Elden Ring. Will gonna buy Legion again next year gen or even 2024-2025. I think every year's Legion's laptop will gonna last you 4-6 years and still stay relevant.
Yes!!! Finally!!! I just got amd Legion 5 Pro from last year with RTX 3070 for $1399 from Walmart online, thinking it was too good of a deal to pass up because I was afraid Lenovo would want $2k+ for this year's Legion with 3070ti, and you just made me feel A LOT better about my purchase! Thank you!
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damn thats a good price, here i bought a legion 5 RTX 3060 for about $1450 -_-
It's kind of a golden era of gaming laptops, even low spec is decent compared to previous generations
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS COMMENT... Thank you thank you... Because of you I got the same deal.. Bought mine and it was afterwards immediately out of stock. Thank you once again... I just hope it does not have any quality control issues on delivery
@@meetp6695 Cool dude, congrats! So far this one seems good! Hope yours is the same!
i will never understand why this channel doesnt have millions of subscribers, anyway great video as always 👏🏽 👏🏽
This is the definitive review channel. Bookmarkee subscribed liked belled.
Not a single other review channel go to as much detail as at once, and not a single other review even mentioned to which GPU the ports are connected.
I like how u were laughing while speaking in the krisp sponsor video
Thank you for the great amount of detail that you go into with these reviews, it's really useful for prospective buyers.
No problem, thanks for watching!
This laptop has been great for me so far! The only gripe I have is the refresh rate toggle. Lenovo's 'Fn+R' doesn't work at all even when the panel has the ability to run at 60Hz and 165Hz, and it gets quite annoying having to launch Nvidia Control Panel to change it every time (Especially when you take it off wall power a lot). I had to download HRC Resolution Changer to resolve it with a macro.
What about the fans noise? Can you hear it while just using Chrome?
@@TrackDaysDude I don't use Chrome personally as it eats way too much RAM for my liking. But no, there's little to no fan noise when using applications like Chrome that aren't heavy on CPU/GPU usage.
If you're watching a 4K stream on Chrome or something, you may hear the fans turn on, but it won't be loud at all
Automatic refresh rate on battery should be doable with Intel Graphic Center.
@@TrackDaysDude Lenovo seems to use the same fan bearing as last year's, with improvement on blade fin size, so yeah the fan IS AUDIBLE on idle, you can hear it, but barely, only audible in a dead silent midnight,
But beware, there's a wide spread complaint of a very audible high tone Humm coming from the fan bearing when it spin at its lowest rpm, it is confirmed to be a defect and Lenovo will replace it for free.
I am one of those unlucky ones with problematic touchpad and audible Humm coming from both fan, I brought it to Lenovo service center and so far its been normal, touchpad working great, and the fans isn't giving me high tone Humm noise anymore, it's still spins at idle though, still giving me a barely audible whoosh noise, I don't mind it though, great laptop nonetheless
@@TrackDaysDude rather go with Brave, Firefox or Opera or Edge
I bought this exact laptop in early March from the Lenovo UK store for 1750 GBP (without any codes applied, others have got it for as low as 1480 GBP) and I am just amazed at how well it performs. Everything is lightning quick, the laptop has 0 QC issues (apart from a slight trackpad rattle in the bottom right hand corner) and the gaming performance is incredible. The screen is gorgeous, the keyboard is great, fan noise is basically non-existent and the laptop looks like a professional device (maybe apart from the gamery feel of the backside where the ports are). For anyone considering this laptop who wants to ask any questions that Jarrod may not have covered feel free to ask!
Great quick review, thanks. Can you elaborate more on fans noise please? Can you hear it when just use Chrome?
@@TrackDaysDude Fan noise is barely audible even with multiple (15+) chrome tabs open. On idle it is silent and even when under load the fan noise is more than tolerable both intensity wise and sound wise (no whistling or high pitched noise). Of course quiet mode makes it even quieter but I find it slows down everything slightly. Not by much, it's just things aren't instant when under load as they are in auto or performance mode.
Hi! After 5 months, is the laptop still as good?
Just pruchased this laptop! Any issue so far?
@@Klav1eR None at all, the performance continues to be amazing. My only complaint is the shockingly bad battery life. Battery lasts maybe an hour with battery saver, 60hz, low brightness, integrated graphics etc. Personally I use it as a desktop replacement and move it around from time to time (from my house to my girlfriend's for example) so I'm okay with the battery life but it would be nice to have the option of going somewhere without a power supply and being able to use my laptop.
Enjoy, it is an amazing laptop!
Your channel is like the Gold standard for laptop review
Thanks!
You know I was looking into that laptop for two days and sadly you didn't have a video on it, All of a sudden you make one, Thanks!
One of my dream laptops. Thank you for the review! I'm looking forward to this year's regular Legion 5. It promises more changes to last year's model.
Loved the sponsor spot bit lol
gonna be honest, i'm convinced to get the legion 5i pro, great review really appreciate it.
You deserve a solid LIKE, my friend!
Much appreciated!
Such quality videos. Freakin' love your content man!
My legion 5 pro just came in the mail yesterday. After more than a month of researching different laptops I’m proud to say that this has been one of the best decisions I’ve made technology wise. Installed two 2tb ssds and put windows 10 on it and it runs great
If it's the intel 12th gen model then you might actually be losing some performance since Windows 10 doesn't knows how to work with the hybrid architecture of the P and E cores of 12th gen as well as windows 11 does.
@@Voidstroyer it’s the ryzen one
how is ur experience so far , mainly temps and fan noise
@@tryfergoodra552 honestly my girlfriend uses it more than I do to play dying light 2 on our tv so I can’t really tell you the exact temp but I know the fan isn’t really that loud if it’s not the only thing making noise in your room lol. It’s been very reliable and I haven’t ran into a problem yet
@@GloomToon i see thats dope , i was wondering if 2022 version had better temps and other good improvements from the 2021 one (amd versions)
Killer Review! 🔥🔥
Thanks mate!
You're a really underrated channel! I hope youtube will give you more attention soon!
I have the lowest specs of the legion lineup in 2021. legion 5 with Ryzen 5 4600h+gtx1650ti+512ssd. and it is a great pc and I will NEVER replace it only for another member of the Legion family.
i got 5 Pro with 3060 and 5800 Ryzen with 32 g of faster RAM you suggested Jarrod, i absolutely love it!!! Playing my favorite games on my traveling on highest settings still. Never been so satisfied with a laptop and i had amazing selection in the past From Alienwares to ASUS G series etc been there done that but Lenovo rocks!!!
Hi, which is better?
Legion 5 Pro 16ACH6H, WQXGA IPS 165Hz G-Sync, AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800H Processor (16M Cache, up to 4.4 GHz), 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, GeForce RTX 3070 8GB
$1672
Legion 7 16ACHg6, WQXGA IPS 165Hz G-Sync, AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800H Processor (16M Cache, up to 4.4GHz), 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, GeForce RTX 3070 8GB
$1870
Legion 5 Pro 16IAH7H, WQXGA IPS 165Hz G-Sync, Intel® Core™ i7-12700H Processor (24M Cache, up to 4.70GHz), 32GB DDR5, 1TB SSD, 8GB GeForce RTX 3070 Ti
$2267
Thank you!!!
Dude, that advertisement was so smooth I didn’t realize it was an advertisement until the link popped up.
Haha thanks, I try to make them relevant if I can!
Anticipating a 2022 m16 asus and 2022 g15 asus review. Maybe a comparison video regardless if they're made or not I like to watch these videos. They're very informative and helped me out.
Thanks for introducing me to Krisp. Its a big help! ☺️
Best laptop review site on RUclips.
My legion 5 1650ti version (2019) still doing its job perfectly as my work life balancer
wooo
thank for the video I've been looking for the adv mux for a year now until I re watched this
3:58 love that jarrod it was very cool😂😂🤣🤣
bro, you getting better than linus in sponsor segaway
lenovo prices their kit artifically high so they can provide coupons afterwards. I don't love this policy but at the same time I like the way they have frequent promotional coupons/codes that usually to all products from a segment (e.g. gaming laptops)
Thanks for the review.... Awesome as always!
I got the 3070ti version with 2tb SSD and 16gb DDR5 for $1850 before tax with a promo coupon and military discount. Seems pretty close to the price you referenced for the 3050 model that was listed. Makes me feel like I got a great deal, but I am not super computer literate. It arrives in 3 days, I'm excited to see how it is! I'm replacing a 4 year old MSI GE 72 Apache Pro... no matter what it is a huge upgrade! But it was definitely tough deciding between this and some of the ASUS offerings!
How has it been serving you mister Brad?
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@Crispin Alexander omg I never replied I'm sorry. I LOVE IT! Have been able to enjoy really taxing games at ultra settings and it is light enough to be mobile when I need to work on the go!
@@bradman4399 how's the temperatures
You're definetly the GOAT of laptops reviews man, hands down.
That's a good illustration for ambient noise, indeed
Thanks. Was waiting for that.
I bought this model with the i7-12700H and RTX3070 Ti in June from Lenovo UK and discovered the LCD display to suffer from really bad IPS Glow and screen bleeding. The machine overall is good apart from the screen issue. However I really need to emphasize that Lenovo is really bad with their customer service from the onset of purchase up to dealing with my issue with the LCD screen. It is a shame because the laptop is a solid machine but Lenovo as a consumer company is utterly shambolic. They had me waited more than a week to deliver the laptop after purchase while they promised next day delivery. I contacted them about the IPS Glow and they sent a technician to my address to carry out repair. Long story short, it took them three attempts and on the last attempt their technician ended up scratching my laptop and leaving bulges on the bezels. To top it off, I sent the laptop to them under premium care to get it fixed and the received the laptop a week ago and have not started work and ignoring my emails. A fair warning to everyone, avoid LENOVO if you don't want to go through this nightmare.
For latencymon, maybe you can test an old laptop that was initially tested with windows 10 and do it now on windows 11. I think that will be a pretty solid proof of problem with windows
that's the newer nvidia driver 5... something, with the stock driver 497... this is not the case
I really like the more technical approach of your reviews. Gaming laptops are not always worth consider buying but your reviews help a lot!
Waiting for Legion 7i 2022. That’s going to be incredible!
I am quite meticulous about laptops and I would have never guessed that Wi-Fi antennas at the front would hinder performance by that much. Seriously awesome review. 😃😃😃😃😃
My fav tech channel hands down 🙌🏼
One big problem I had with the Lenovo Vantage GPU modes was that the Hybrid and Performance Modes makes the GPU unusable in Photoshop, Illustrator, and Premiere Pro. I had to put it on Balanced Mode and uncheck that additional option. Took me awhile to figure out that those GPU modes were the culprit.
why would the GPU be unusable with those apps in Hybrid and especially Performance modes? Is this a bug and did Lenovo address it?
@@StefanUrkel Why? I don't have the tech knowledge for that one, lol. My best guess is that Photoshop cannot recognize it for some reason. Is it a bug? I sure hope so. I'm thinking it's partly on Lenovo and partly on Adobe.
Is it fixed now ?
@tamal0167 Hey. I think so! I have my laptop back in performance mode, and it's working fine. Give it a try and let us know.
Lovely job again with T-shirt! Great content bro - keep up good work!
THAT IS AN AMAZING COMPUTER FOR WORK/GAMING HANDS DOWN
Really hope they add in the fan control. It’s literally the only thing keeping this laptop from being perfect
There are 3rd party fan control options. Not the end of the world imo.
And older version too would be nice.
2022 model has manual fan control (in LegionZone), but not available yet in Vantage.
I have last years 5i Pro with 11800H and 3070, great machine, smashes any game at 1600p, got it for a total of $1744 USD during black Friday, basically a steal.
When is black friday? I thought its is in year end
@@akhilalexg I would get the rog advantage edition for 1500 usd it has a 6800m + 5900hx. 6800m is better than the rtx 3070 and alittle worse than the 3080
@@akhilalexg yes I got it last November, in 2021
@@zoid99dollars oh ok 👍
@@jeffiouswonderus2600 ok cool. But this year intel 12th gen processor is way better.
nice transition to the ad......badass
Before i even see the video
Like + comment
You deserve a high respect 👍🏻
Excellent review! This review convinced me to purchase the Legion 5 Pro 6800H + 3070Ti!
On an interesting note, advanced optimus appears on the spec sheet of the AMD version, but I haven't been able to turn it on for both the models I've had, even following your video ):
Optimus should be on be default generally. Here's some info on my website on how to turn it off in Vantage: jarrods.tech/how-to-turn-off-optimus-on-your-gaming-laptop/#Lenovo
All hail our lord and savior Jarrod. Can't wait for the regular Legion 5 review as that will most likely be closer to my budget
Yessire
I think the Y on the lid is 100x cleaner than “Legion” in full text
5:35 happen to me a lot, I'm using an ideapad gaming 3(which has the same kb layout). When i'm typing fast, i kept accidentally pressing numpad instead of backspace.
When I really want to learn about a laptop and how it compares, I come here! Mic'ing out your partner, too funny!!!😂
Patiently waiting for that m16 review.
I just bought a Lenovo Legion 5 pro with the rtx 3070 at only 1423€ Amazing
The new wifi placement bothers me health wise... Exellent review as usual !!
As usual, watching this from my very own Legion 5i Pro Gen 7 laptop hehe
Unfortunately, my first experience with Lenovo (Legion 7 16" AMD) has not been great. Touchpad failure 2 weeks in and Lenovo support hasn't been very helpful. Just taking me on a ride through their checklist. I will be sending the laptop back. I can't see myself going for another Lenovo laptop anytime soon. Anyone interested in Legion laptops, just beware the reliability and preferably purchase from a shop where you have walk-in returns as purchasing directly from Lenovo and dealing with their staff is a headache.
fortunately I have no problem on my legion 5 2020, 2 years of heavy gaming also using the laptop keyboard too, knock on wood..
That is more connected with Ryzen than Lenovo, Unfortunately.
Get Intel or another AMD Legion (and try luck again :D)
Had the opposite experience as you. Owner of a 1st gen 2020 Legion 5 AMD r5 gtx1650 with 120hz screen, upgraded by default in my country (Philippines) with Legion ultimate support (3yrs warranty, 24/7 phone/email support, onsite repairs, service)
Support has been GREAT. I only had very minor touchpad issues after 1yr 2mos, and they replaced it after 5 days with email approval. I called them 2 months later for laptop cleaning services (it was still under warranty, didnt feel the need to open it myself), and they came by, cleaned the fans, and even repasted it with thermal grizzly kryonaut.
Still enjoying 1yr and 2mos remaining warranty.
@@profiyntroz5186 Why would something like touchpad failure be connected to Ryzen?
@@philbertaustinselda7066 I'm considering getting the extended warranty. I think I had seen a 4 year coverage for like $90 or so USD. Did you watch the service person perform the work? Did it seem do-able by yourself?
The performance in games isn't a lot, but the the difference in content creation production and the asthetic of the laptop itself is an improvement. Seems like they wanted to make something for a professional who also games. Right up my alley!
I’m buying this laptop for my music production, and the looks definitely helped sell me (also the $400 discount Lenovo offered)
awesome review, I'm waiting for your 2022 ROG Strix (17" preferably) review and then will decide between the two which to buy.
That sponsor segue be damn buttery smooth though.. 👌
Jarrod always the best for laptop reviewer!!! 👍👍👍 plz next standart version (not pro)
20 seconds in and im here liking dis gucci content 👏
cant wait to see how the ryzen version performs 😁
I think then i am going to buy the legion 5 (2021) with rtx 3060 , ryzen 7 5800H , 32gb ram ; because the difference is too small for performance compared to price
Yep
Same! 32gb Kingston plus 2tb 970 Evo plus
I still can't decide if there is a big difference between 120hz and 165hz for that laptop
Absolutely. The "DDR5 tax" is quite insane with those 2022 models. You basically trade away a 3060 (or even 3070) in exchange for DDR5+3050Ti. No way.
@@biju7832 the 120hz panel has horrible color accuracy and poorer contrast, don't buy that one
One of the best. Keep it going. 👍
In 2022, with the increase of work-from-home, laptop webcams should be much better than they are. Webcam quality has become close to top priority for me when choosing a laptop to buy.
I've written about why webcams suck in the past, though it is a bit of an older post. Hopefully one day they will improve: jarrods.tech/why-do-laptop-cameras-suck/
Intel seems to be focused on the desktop replacement segment - expect to have access to AC power when using it. Battery life is really poor compared to Ryzen's offering. And with GPU prices dropping rapidly, I think we'll see start seeing laptop prices drop as well. Demand for laptops were higher in 2021 because you couldnt get a GPU at a reasonable price.
thanks captain obvious
That's Top Lid Design Looks like N56 and G750 Style Cooling System! Are you sure?
hi Jarrod, I notice that last year's 5 Pro has the Fn+R shortcut to change the refresh rate from 165Hz to 60Hz for longer battery life, but there's no mention of that shortcut in this review. So my question is that does this year's iteration have that shortcut or not?
Nvidia 511.79 and 512.15 have brightness issue. I reported it on the forum at 511.79, but it was ignored because too many people did not respond. Finally someone from nvidia contacted me. I sent him the device information and my tests.
The problem is in SDR mode. In HDR mode the brightness works very well. In fact, it's growing much more steadily than any driver that has ever appeared. But SDR is skipping.
I've uploaded it to the legion group if anyone wants to look at the tests I've done.
My device is Legion 5 Pro 2021 R7 5800H and model with RTX3070.
Also, variable refresh rate only works in driver 511.23. Variable refresh rate does not appear in windows 11 in any other driver.
I had the same issue with HDR mode on 512.15 on this laptop.
@@JarrodsTech i think It means a panel-based error. Each panel has a different problem. HDR works very well on the 512.15 driver for me too, but SDR is horrendously dark :D
I hope they fix it in the next driver.
For example, there is one more problem. I think it's also related to the panel or nvidia and netflix... I don't know :S. When the monitor wakes up 1-2 minutes after entering "monitor auto power off mode", netflix H265/ cannot stream as 2K&4K. Either you need to put the device into sleep mode or you have to restart it.
I tested for 2 weeks. Win11 - Win10 - Lenovo recovery media- 5 different bios - Oem drivers and nvidia drivers- Gsync off/On.... But nothing changed. There is probably a problem with the DRM protection when the monitor is turned off and on :D
I couldn't do different tests because I didn't have any other devices. It would be good to try netflix top package on non-HDR but devices with 2k/4k panel and nvidia RTX card.
Wait that was an ad spot?? I didn't even realize before the end of it, very smooth transition
Aww man I like that big lighting at the back, why did they remove that? It's so useful when plugging cables at the dark.
Just bought the 7th Gen Legion i5 pro with RTX 3070 Ti, 32GB DDR5, 2TB SSD for $1,780 with the sale they have going
That's the first ever sponsor that has an actually useful product. Like honey.
Can't wait for laptops with Intel processor + dGPU and reviewed by Mr. Jarrod 😁😁
The sponsor is so funny lol
i hope you will review legion 5 all amd edition, cant wait for that one
Looking forward to the Ryzen version. Even the Legion 7 looks promising.
Its more cheap
I'm still waiting for G15 2022. It's looks awesome and hot🌚
Temperatures are so small. Does it have liquid metal applied by default?
Can't wait to see this laptop compared to the new gen ryzen variant
Thanks for the review Jarrod, yes this one is best, but power brick is one only issue, correct.
finally a higher end ideapad pro review!
well intel 12th gen doesnt exactly makes laptop cost cheaper, better stick with the last year amd side with better discount in after a year :)
The price is rather steep. I saw a Legion 7 from last year model with Core i7-11800H, 32GB DDR4, 1TB NVMe, and Geforce RTX 3070 for the same price of this newer Legion 5 Pro with RTX 3050 Ti. For mostly gaming and sometimes video editing, is the older Legion 7 more worthy?
Do you anticipate the prices of the 30 series going down further? I'm about to pull the trigger on Legion 5i Pro Gen 7 Intel (16”) with RTX 3070 Ti, i7, 32 gb RAM and 2 tb storage but it's a little over 2K. I'd love to save a bit more money-unless this is as good a deal as I'll get.
So the only real reason to get the legion 7 is to have edge rgb, and led light to show the rear hookups?