3G Is Shutting Down. I Brought My iPhone 4 Back to Life to Say Goodbye. | WSJ
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- Starting in February, U.S. cellular carriers will begin to shut down 3G. WSJ’s Joanna Stern got an old iPhone 3G and iPhone 4 working on the old network, in order to remember all it did to shape the smartphone revolution. Photo illustration: Preston Jessee for The Wall Street Journal
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I didn't realize until now that things weren't necessarily fast back then, we just had more patience.
Actually no… We used to think those were fast af back then.
Well, websites for example got way more complicated over time.
@@FLTech yeah too many javascripts on alot of new websites
It wasn't that bad, she's using an iphone with an awfully slow CPU and outdated software
Things were fast. Websites and apps were lighter to load, media files were smaller. With faster network, websites and apps become heavier dragging the speeds down.
3G is still more than usable today. I literally watched this video in 1080p over 3g H+. The issues you had are because of the obsolete phone, not because od 3G
True indeed. 3.5 g phones have lots of limitations compared to their LTE and LTE advance counterparts, but their wifi support the N protocol of 150 Mbps similar to LTE cat 4
Seriously , I'm currently using BSNL 3G to watch this Video on my 4G phone , BSNL Don't have 4G yet properly . Here in India 3G and 4G speed are close enough to each other 😂, but decent speed on the Go.!
H+ is called 4G in US I don't know why haha, they have the 4G and 4G LTE.
Me on 5G barely being able to watch a 1080p60 video because big companies want you to pay to have the capability to do so
@@MrRodrigo1250 even in Australia we have H+, but you can't use social media or watch RUclips videos on H+ and 3G. But maybe it's because I'm using a Vo LTE 4G phone, but on my old one I do remember being able to use socials on 3G
This was mostly about how your deprecated iOS apps no longer work, rather than actually being about 3G
exactly
@Nahid Islam bruh its not gonna downgrade your uber app tho 😭
Exactly, I purposely have my 5G phone switched to 3G and it works perfectly fine. It saves a lot of battery
@@evanbv87933G is dead in my country. Awful spectrum efficiency, hence why the government and providers don't like it.
She didn't really need old iPhone to use 3G. You can lock newer iPhones to 3G from network settings.
On iPhone 12 and 13. You can’t do it by default. You need to contact your operator if they’ll allow it which in most case they don’t 😂
Not on any US carrier. Our carrier settings lock that option. It’s LTE or 5G only now unless 3G/2G is the only local tower.
It won’t work if you have a 5g plan on Verizon. You either need too confuse the backend or use a lte only iphone
@@LasdilElizaga i have the 13 and i can do it by default
@@wachter206 you have this option on Android phone like Samsung, oppo, xiaomi, Huawei, oneplus. You just go to mobile data and select 3g/2g or lte/3g/2g auto.
This raised an important topic but addressed it very poorly. Instead of speaking of the software obsolescence of an iPhone 4, you should've brought up upcoming issues with 3G remote medical devices and emergency systems, home alarms, GPS trackers, remote weather stations, car communications systems (OnStar etc.) and many other things!
People are going to click if you talk about phones, not other stuff
Even pos systems
Because most companies and people who use em are either getting upgraded, or limited spectrum will be around for em that normal phones can’t access
Pppp0
People have had years and years to upgrade
I wonder why 3G is so different in America. In Europe my iPhone 12 is constantly swtching between 3G, 4G and 5G and for most day-to-day tasks, you cannot tell the difference. I’m literally watching this video on 3G and it loads in HD without a hitch. Another thing is that the approach of this video is based on old only-3G smartphones, so I wonder if a better comparison would be to simply disable 4G and 5G on a new smartphone and see how much you can do on 3G.
Rest of the world uses the more advanced H+ standards unlike the obsolete CDMA 2000 standard
Sometimes also the edge connection (2g) in Italy😂
You are currently far more advance version of HSDPA branded as 3.5G. Which is still being operated in man regions today. But lots of regions like USA also did not implement those later versions. You could realistically get Several MegaBit/s on the later revisions which is very usable with modern web services. This did not exist and is not supported on early versions of iPhones. This requires hardware capabilities of later phones.
@@Amorousstake4 Not quite H+ logo is quite meaningless as it was a general branding. There is realy slow H+ which is not much better than CDMA2000, but handful years late more advance 7.2 megabit class HSDPA is what is being used now.
@@Neojhun HSPAP is the most advanced 3G system used all over the world except the USA. It can get up to 30mbps
Well i don't think this is about the 3G not allowing apps to work properly, rather on companies stopping supporting old phons and old OS.
@@kyria_kous I don't recall what are all the apps she tried. But Apple, Facebook, Uber and others are far far away from being bankrupt. But yes you are right, a bankrupted company won't support its apps anymore.
Joanna is honestly one of the best underrated tech reviews on RUclips
Yep. In one corner we have MKBHD and then the other Joanna 👍
Well past her prime. Obsolete.
Better than iJustine
@@neurway4048 what is her obsession with knives? I mean really big knives to open small boxes.
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3G itself isn’t as outdated as it looked in this video. It’s capable of a theoretical max download speed of 7.2mbps on the iPhone 4 and 14.4 mbps on the iPhone 4s, which while not blazing fast, is still absolutely enough for normal phone usage. I do find it weird that they’re shutting down 3G networks in the YSA, as where I live, despite introducing 5G, some more remote places still rely on 3G for any sort of normal coverage, infact the network sometimes drops down to 2G if the connection is bad enough.
I noticed my Moto G7 play keeps losing service 😢 I use to get Service in Antlers Oklahoma and Moyer's Oklahoma now I don't have service at all in that area just where I live Hugo Oklahoma
My home internet bravado wireless WISP cuts in and out due to 3G shutdown
At&t 3G in few days 3 days away my ISP bravado wireless contract is almost up 🤗 Have till may 🤗 so hopefully get new modem from different carrier
3G itself isn’t the issue for the long loading times. The real problem was the old iPhone. 3G nowadays is fast enough to load a 4K30 video with no issues. They should rather shut down 2G as it’s more than useless for modern day usage. Just phone calls and SMS doesn’t cut it nowadays anymore and 2G can just do that reliably.
iPhone 4 was my first iPhone that i owned. Got it on contract on UK’s 3 network & there was nothing like this phone on the market at that time. It was a stunning device & was a work of art from design perspective. It was really fast back then in 2010. And sad to say that all other iPhone models that i owned after that just didn’t excite me much.
The fact that these phones are still fully functional is very impressive. Makes me wonder how long an iPhone 13 will last.
My iPhone 3 still works. I still use it as a low quality camera.
My note 3 and iphone 4 were still working until I recycled them last month.....
It will last for the years to come. I still have my iPhone X.
10+ years
@@Fourtune1 absolutely agree!
I still love my iPhone 4. This was my first smartphone I ever owned. Now I have a S21 ultra now. The screen on this phone is bigger then the entire iPhone 4 lol
Which one isn't?
@@JR-vc4gm What
@@Rationalist101 he/ she said.. that all smart phones (of other brands) are much bigger than iPhone4....
@@karthikshinde6739 Oh
Bigger is an understatement.
Modern iPhones locked to 3g aren’t that slow. I’m sad to see it go, as someone who lives in a rural area, 3g went father and was decently fast.
True, it was like the AM Radio of data speed.
We still have very spotty 4g in my area so I’m on 3g around half of the time, most of the problems in this video are due to the iPhones being old, no because of 3g not having enough bandwidth.
This is a slightly awkward video because… well… Can’t ALL iPhones use 3G if you choose it? Or, do all 5G iPhones have 3G taken away as an option?
They all still have 2g and 3g, but they’ll prefer newer tech over the old standards, so they won’t connect unless they have too. And if you have 5g on Verizon, they keep you from accessing anything lower then lte, even if 3g or cDNA is the only thing in the area.
it's just a tribute video for Iphone 3g and 3g era of early 10s duh
@@StealNightKiller this is Steve Jobs legacy that will be gone for good because the first iPhone which was powered by a Samsung processor took the world by storm.
The smartphone industry had seen a ton of improvements, now a simple Samsung galaxy A03 core with a low end unisoc sc9863 octa core and 2gb of ram would have been considered as a flagship a decade ago.
Depends on the network, my 6s on ATT is now locked to 4G LTE, no more toggle to turn it off
@@XXtheJUMPoffXX that’s odd, my iPhone se still had the option a few months ago
I think this is more testing software and hardware sustainability than network functionality
I agree! This video is about an old iPhone with unsupported apps and not about 3G. I'm posting this comment using a modern phone on a 3G network with no problem.
This video is about an old iPhone with unsupported apps and not about 3G. I'm posting this comment using a modern phone on a 3G network with no problem.
I think it would've made more sense to use 3G on your modern device instead of on the old devices. Then you would have actually seen it load modern apps and sites correctly, to see how slow it is on today's internet. Ex. a prepaid carrier like US Mobile (Verizon) will allow you to select 3G manually as your data.
No since 3gs/4 is the true iphone
@@viewingonipad2132 I have Moto G7 play it's only one works with 3G I get bad LTE service where I live
@@unknownwolf4046 i have an s4, but its broken, keeps shutting off (and I’m pretty sure its the battery), the home button is inside the phone, and you can see part of the inside of the phone near where the home button should be
I'm from Iraq and I watch the video laughing because I'm watching this video with 3G😂😂😁
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A better idea would've been to put the SIM into an Android phone and lock it to 3G since most Androids still allow 3G locking to 3G. I believe ATT doesn't allow you to lock to 3G on iOS 15, but does on Android via hidden menus. That would provide a better showcase of what 3G is truly capable of as old versions of iOS don't really show what 3G can truly do these days. It is often actually really good now. Sometimes faster than LTE in congested areas.
Here on Philippines, 5G networks also starts to grow little by little. But most of the people still uses 3G as 4G here isn't that stable, especially on some remote areas. One of the cellular carrier here urges users to switch to 4G, probably they'll shut down 3G soon too, and that's a problems 'cause a lot of people here still uses 3G as 4G isn't that stable, and 5G is only available on selected locations.
Here in France, EDGE is still active. I mean there was an "E" on my display, that doesn't mean you have internet available.
Same here in Germany. GSM will stay available as a backbone with its low Frequency.
3G just got here in my city in Brasil.
When I first got my iPhone 📱 4 with my dad it was a huge step in a new world. I moved up to the 6s, iPhone 11 and I traded in my 11 for a iPhone 12 with T-Mobile
I still use 3G on my 6S almost everyday! It’s only certain tasks that struggle to load to be honest.
This video is more about the iPhone vs 3G technology
Funny, informative and lighthearted take on technology - I like it!
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You can always toggle to exclusively use 3G on all Android phones. Not sure with iOS, but last time I checked, iPhone X can do that too.
Most if not all of the problems mentioned are not related to 3G at all. It's the dying old phone's problem. 3G speed is 3 Mbps (375 KB/s) and it's still capable to load every app you opened on the video. It's the processing power of the phone that cant handle it.
There are other comments talking about the impact of 3G shutdown on home and medical appliances that are far more important to talk about than this obsolote junk.
You forgot an essential thing, in 2022, hsdpa plus, hsdpa and hsupa have become the new 3g standard because the early umts suffered from a sluggish 384 kbps speed while hsdpa can go up to 40 mbps.
Operators can lock you out from accessing 3G, which some operators do to prevent users from using it. This was even mentioned in the beginning of the Video.
This video reminds me of my own iPhone 4 I used to have, which was also my first 3G phone, first modern smartphone where I wasn't stuck on an outdated platform (Windows Mobile 2003 SE), and the first time I was able to move away from PAYG service.
📶 M1-3GSM [3G]
Aahh, those were the days
It's hard for me to believe I could actually withstand such speeds! I also remember 3G connectivity on my mobile data enabled LG X120 laptop I had around the same time, and just overall waiting for Web pages and RUclips videos to load. Back then, I didn't use as many online services as I do now. I also have fond memories of skeuomorphism-era Apple software, but that's a different topic altogether.
I can only imagine what it'd be like when I do eventually get a 5G phone, tablet, and/or laptop.
I'm actually still using my old M1 SIM card from their 3G days, which was a Micro SIM that I had cut down to a Nano SIM later on, and M1 later changed their network display name to 'SGP-M1' around the time they began offering 4G service, but thanks to the old 3G SIM card, their old 3G display name still lives on in the way Android displays the network display name: 'SGP-M1 - M1-3GSM'.
Fortunately, 3GPP 4G LTE won't be going away anytime soon. There are way too many phones built between 2011 and 2019 that only support 4G, so....
In Indonesia, 4G speed is similar to 3G and 3G is similar to 2G.
Nope, depending where you live. Here it's about 40 - 60 mbps during the day, and 70 - 100 mbps during the night.
Edit: try going back to 3G, not even pass 10 mbps. Also EDGE is far below even 1 mbps.
@@bltzcstrnx edge is actually more slower than that but it depends on what operator you're using. At 3 Am in the morning, my internet which is a simple lte cat 4 jumps to nearly 144 mbps while I can get 33 mbps at 1 pm
@@danteerskine7678 yeah, I tested EDGE out of curiosity. It maxed out at around 100 kbps.
@@bltzcstrnx edge barely goes up to 100 kbps , just like bluetooth tethering barely goes up to 1 mbps, but bluetooth tethering speed is decent because you can stream RUclips video on a speed of 1mbps.
I actually own a few nokia 30 series 2g keypad phones and I could see the difference, 2g connection is trash when I try to do web browsing while it loads surprisingly fast when my keypad phones is connected to my smartphone via bluetooth tethering.
Best thing was 3G supported calling + data at the same time and no requirement of seperate VoLTE or VoNR type software support.
3g is good for high density area. And penetration is best compared with speed. 3g phone lasts at least 2 times longer and I don't know other area,but I get full network bar compared to 4g of 1.bar and speed up to 3.1mbps
Ekdom thik 💯
I have an iPhone X and I always set it to use 3g instead of LTE. (I do this cause I have bad LTE service in my area.) I’m gonna miss 3G.
As a youth i did SO much browsing on 2g networks. I remember when 3G was being announced .. it was a game changer for those of us who were early adopters of the mobile browser. Even pre smartphone, a feature phone on 3g could support choppy video calls, i could stream sirius xm radio, or other online radio stations right off my phone. It felt .. not blazing fast.. but it was night and day between the 2g towers. Thank you 3G.
there were a lot of good 3G Android phones out there as good as 4G. i think 3G is still fine esp on Android.
I’ve used 3g on AT&T a few times on my iPhone 13. About 10 mbps per second. Still was useable
It's like saying goodbye to a cassette tape. 😂
That happiness you never get back.
Interesting for some reason 4G network in my city is so slow from past couple of weeks that I switched my OnePlus 7T to 3G manually and it's much faster than 4G. So yes 3G is still very useful in day to day life.
Rest of the world or in USA?
@Pabblo its a partly open source WCDMA for rest of the world and a closed source obsolete CDMA in the USA
Girlllll I love you reviews sooooooooo much ❤️
my grandpa still has his old iphone 4, his phone company has been pushing him to upgrade for years and still uses it everyday idk how but he does.
well, I can try to help. Is he planning to get a new phone if you don't mind me asking?
@@rayvega3163 he said something about getting a 12 or 13 mini sometime this year
@@xxgostapua2107 ah good choice. Hope he'll get it.
wait random question but: How exactly long your grandpa uses his iPhone 4?
God seeing the iPhone 4 with the carrier logo and "3G" next to it brings on unusually strong nostalgia. I remember how excited I was for the iPhone 4, I had wanted the 3G for soooo long but then the 4 came out and it was the most beautiful iPhone I had ever seen. The iPhone 12, 13, and 14 with the flat edges really bring me back too!
I remember Joanna back in Engadget days... :)
Meanwhile my operator in India only has 3G and edge. Not even 4G
I like Ms. Joanna's videos. Her presentation is awesome.
Your review was baised mam. In India till 2016-17 we used to see speed of 5mbps. 3g is now abandoned by indian telecom operators. You used a really onld iphone with old software due to which 3g performed poorly which was obvious. Try using 3g on newer device if you can there.
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She probably didn't update the IOS version otherwise I used to see people using iPhone 4 in 2018 and it worked pretty darn well back then. I also used to get pretty good speeds around 2011-12 in India, I used to insert the sim in a wifi dongle and had abandoned my wifi router
3g is not abandoned. Bsnl still has it across India. Vodaphone and Airtel still has it in rural areas
That is America not india u boomer
@@sorryi6685 HSPAP 3G is faster than ever as the performance bottleneck is removed. So its now at 10Mbps stable at around 75ms ping time on Vi H+
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Great content! Love revisiting mobile tech!
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Wow! The loading speeds and processing has definitely improved! Even the iPhone 7 or 8 blows that away! And it’s still getting faster
When 4G was the main network for many years, they kept both 3G and 2G around, why not while 5G is the main network keep 3G around also? 5G and 4G dont have as much coverage as 3G, and 3G can save the day in those spots.
In South Korea, 3G WCDMA still works except LG U+. iPhone 3GS, 4, 4S still can be used in Korea.
Here in Bulgaria we still have 2G on every carrier
Iphone 4 design is timeless
3G is the last fallback radio frequency that most phones can connect to. One of the issues with 4G or LTE and even 5G is the sheer number of different bands and/or technology it has. Some carriers or countries use specific bands that can only work with phones sold in that place.
So if you travel to different countries, there’s a chance that your phone can’t connect to 4G and will switch to 3G as fallback. Once 3G shuts down in most countries, this might be a headache to deal with.
If you have iPhone. It should nearly work worldwide. I think China is the only country that has a slightly modified frequency set than the ones sold worldwide
My country still has EDGE and it's not going away anytime soon... 3G will probably be alive for 10 more years.
Same in my country too.
She's right
3G is the first technology that gave us access to speed internet connectivity and is the reason for tech-revolution
I remember getting my 3G iPhone home for the first time and thought … I don’t need my laptop any more
@@stankythecat6735 Nostalgic 😀
@@abhiram7206 i won’t bother to say what website I hit first … but I was 22 at the time so we can guess…0
"I Love Old Tech" ♥️
Thank God I don't live in the U.S because 3g isn't like 2g, 3g is still very usable and it's sometimes needed because when 4g isn't working in certain areas, 3g is there for me.
I'm a fan of Joanna so instant watch hehe 🥰
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1:47 the nostalgia that sounds gave me is HUGE
I still use 3G in the UK because 4G network is so overloaded and the internet speed does not work in some areas
I remember when 4g first came out and not many ppl were on it. Man it was soooo fast. Literally instantly
Excuse me. we're currently using Edge
I remember playing world of Warcraft on a 3g modem in a rural area. No lags, no problems at all.
On my XS I use 3G alot because I get full bars on 3g compared to 1 bar on LTE
I had a iPhone 4S that still works on 3G data via Singtel (singapore carrier)
As of right now (December 22) 3G for Version is still alive
I kid you not..... We have just got 4G in Yemen, like 2 weeks ago 😅
3G is was more revolutionary than 5G doing now.
Kinda funny when you realized,That your country still widely use this Network band than it were 5G, heck you can still 2G & EDGE here with ease once your signal gets too weak for 4G+ or 5G. Philippines is prolly one of the very few places rn in which where you could still use Old tech like Blackberries,Symbian Era Nokias & the Classic 3310 with no issues whatsoever,I still remembered being still able to use my old Nokia 5800 Xpressmusic as my Daily for a Few Months to test its capability in nowadays tech,Still works like a Charm if you ask me
I really hope that all of the 3G phones arent going to recycling now, they can still be sold to collectors!!
I don't think the twitter app was too dependent on 3G
iPhone 3G and S were amazing phones. While the first iPhone was very limited in hardware and software, the 3G with faster speeds and the App Store became the mobile computer we all are accustomed to now
i like 3g because their bigger wave length can traver farther away. Here in Brazil, we usually go with 4G in the cities, but some places in the city, and most of the camp, only 3g works. I don't see 3g going out anytime soon here.
3G isn’t shutting down itself, i think the WiFi is shutting down so no 2g or 3g networks 😢😢😢
In my country 3G is still going strong and not going away anytime soon, but I don't get any of those issues. I have a modern phone, apps work without problems on 3G and websites are still blazing fast.
Lucky you. Sometimes, all I get is 3g in some areas! Luckily, my country has ordered a departure from 3g, but it’s gonna take a LONG while before it’s gone and 4g becomes reliable. :(
Which country are you?
I live in Romania and I use Vodafone with my 12 Pro. Many places in the city I live in don’t have great coverage so my phone automatically connects to 3G and all social media apps, imessage, face time work great! 3G is still usable in 2022 and will still be usable for a few more years. Not to say that there’s not a noticeable difference when my phone connects to 4G or 5G.
in where i live we get ads on tv for 3g because its brand new here
I have an iPhone 4S and I tried using an AT&T sim in it, but it seems that it no longer works. I think I heard that the oldest phone you can use today ids something like an iPhone 6.
In Serbia, there's still 2G in some areas, and my dad's iPhone SE 1 and iPhone 7 are 6 years old and the SE one sometimes switches to 3G since these two are his daily drivers, but it's just fine like that. But honestly, they should add 3G to 2G areas, 4G to 3G areas, and 5G to 4G areas.
Here we are still stuck with 2g calling and texting ugh
WiFi still works
2:00 3G is capable of a lot more and does a lot more -you can get an iPhone X and just turn off LTE and use it on 3G and edge only.
So I wonder if there’s any way possible for me to activate an iPhone 3G/3GS/4/4S on Verizon?
I'll will miss 3g because my grandmother has a 2 / 3g phone from about 1995/2000 about that time. It's some Nokia and she is very familiar with the interface and everything, but she doesn't want to deal with ,, the new" things
As an analog man in a digital world it all seems to me like witchcraft. I still miss cassette tapes and Walkman LP's and transistor radios still impress me.
You are a Renaissance man.
Analog technologies got me shook. Vinyl records, shortwave radio, old televisions, all that jazz is wild to me.
As someone who had those during that era, good riddance to those. We often forget how bulky those things are to carry around, a smartphone is much more compact
3G you will be Remembered ✨
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Say hello to the worlds most advanced thumb drive with a life expectancy that will surely outlast your grandchildren. Yes im talking about the 4.
I still own a Nokia 7110 2 G phone! Sadly finding network access for that these days is very hit and miss... my iPhone4 I suspect will join it in my museum of old tech fairly soon!
3G is still going strong in Canada. Lots of carriers only carry 3g, public, lucky etc
my first iPhone was a 3GS on O2 UK, 3G still works in the UK though.
I still use 3g on my se2020, often it’s faster than lte (but probably because no one uses it). Anyway I’m unhappy for all those people that need cellular for ‘simple but notable’ reasons( think of security alarms, elevators safety call, ….) with systems going out of service and potentially letting people die (think of elevators). Here I think operators did better by keeping gsm as ‘fallback’ given it does not use much spectrum and everything is virtually compatible with gsm
3G phone still not obsolete. With WiFi, you can use free WiFi calling with Fongo, TextNow, etc. Fine for seniors in long term care, etc.
You’re saying goodbye but we are still living in it🤣
I live in London & use SMARTY 5G for £16 a month unlimited data. I am surprised some still use 3G, very humbling. 👀
Rip 3G
2003-2022
Watching this on February 21, 2022 1 day before AT&T 3g shutdown 😭
In Chile the 3G network continues to work, I have Entel and 3G continues to work