First Time Hearing A perfect circle - Orestes (Reaction!!)
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I remember Maynard saying Tool is his masculinity, APC is his femininity, and Puscifer was his libido 😂 It seemed like a great way to describe those bands.
I think that’s a super outdated quote though, and I’d agree with it not being a thing. During the V is for era, sure, but I don’t think anything in the last few albums reflect on libido. If anything, they talk more on nature.
I've heard this too, it makes sense. Especially when you take into account, that A Perfect Circle , musically is founded by the guitarist Billy Howerdel, and he had intended the band to be fronted by a female vocalist.
Never heard this. But i have heard that Tool was "the head", APC was "the heart", and Puscifer was "the genitals".
I have heard him mention APC was his id and Puscifer was his ego. Similar I guess. Although Puscifer Grand Canyon breaks that. Easily could be a APC song
That's bullshit. I love those bands but Maynard's thoughts.
Maynard's mother didn't die when he was young, she had a brain hemorrhage when he was 11 that left her completely paralyzed but she lived another 27 years. She died in 2003, before 10,000 days was written, that's what the title means, the amount of time she had to live in this completely debilitated condition but never lost her faith. After her stroke, Maynard had to go live with his dad, who had been divorced from her, because she couldn't take care of him anymore. The song "Jimmy" off Aenima is written about that experience.
Thanks for explaining this to our new members and Spiral Out.
I don't know where this story of his mom killing his dad came from.
From Greek mythology
@@MultiKartr Yeah, he was referring to the Greek myth about Orestes, who's the one who had to kill his mother to avenge his father. These lyrics evoke (for me) an image of Maynard by her hospital bed as she's sustained on life support, wrestling with knowing it's time to let her go, but wanting "one more peaceful medicated moment" with her before telling the docs to turn the machines off. Whether or not that actually happened, it's a powerful feeling that one might feel echoes of in other situations. I understand that he finished his teens living with his dad, as his mom had remarried to a strict asshole type that Maynard clashed a lot with. I can imagine a young man wanting to be there for his beloved and debilitated mother, and maybe protect her in her vulnerable state with this asshole, but needing to "cut away the umbilical residue" from her emotionally in order to get somewhere safer to finish growing up, and the feared consequences of that decision he would grapple with.
Oddly I never looked up lyrics to A Perfect Circle songs - I just got taken by the vibe of the song and didn't feel I needed them. But I should change that habit. ...It's Maynard.
She was not completely paralyzed. After the stroke, she was partially paralyzed, and was in a wheelchair-bound. She died after 27 years like that. Or, 10,000 Days. Hence, the name of Tool's song, and album title.
Glad you loved it!!! The connection is Maynard wished he could have been more like Orestes and pull the plug on his mother and end her suffering in his eyes. "One more medicated, peaceful moment " (ease her pain and give her peace) "I don't want to feel this overwhelming hostility" (anger at God for putting his mother through everything, anger at his mother for her faith through it all, anger from everyone else when he pulls the plug) "gotta cut away, clear away and sever this umbilical residue keeping me from killing you " (double meaning, umbilical cord tethers life between mother and child. If he could pull the plug or cut the cord it would end her suffering but also her life. He doesn't think he could do it because she is his mother. Umbilical cord is keeping him from killing her)
Well said!
@@joechurch7 thank you!
Perfectly explained!
Did you read an interview where he states this ? Or is this just your thoughts?
Very well said wow
Can you imagine being so great that this is just ONE of your original bands?!
Maynard's harmonies with Billy Howerdel, especially in this version of the song, are so haunting.
Best APC song in my opinion, and some of Maynard's finest writing and vocal work. The song does not necessarily have to be autobiographical. Maynard may just be expressing the pain and conflict of the story itself. Their song don't necessarily need a central meaning. You hear this many of Tool's complicated works.
there is a central meaning, tho, in that every single "mom/mother/mary/marie/mer/ocean of chaos" reference can also refer to this whole "frown out your ONE face" "weap in shades of indigo" patient "part warrior" divine feminine (see stinkfist, schism m/v's), within us all...
merkaba: omniscient omnipotent omnipresent w/o judgement
wings for marie / 10000 days: judith marie, unconditional one
maria - ratm:
"these are her mountains & skies & she radiates
& through history’s rivers of blood she regenerates
& like tha sun disappears only to reappear - maria -
she’s eternally here, her time is near
never conquered but here"
the patient:
"a groan of tedium escapes me,
startling the fearful.
is this a test? it has to be,
otherwise i can't go on.
draining patience, drain vitality.
this paranoid, paralyzed vampire act's a little old.
(talkin' bout THE GRUDGE, same "part vam-pire")
but i'm still right here
giving blood, keeping faith
and i'm still right here."
Judith is right up there with this one
@@soth1sol you may be confusing meaning and theme.
My favorite
My favorite APC song. When the guitars sound like they're screaming 😩
This live version It's literally one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard in my life.
Mer de Noms. The whole album is worth listening to in original order front to back. Each track fits perfectly within its place and the studio recordings are of better quality than any of the concert footage. Highly recommend listening to this album as it was intended.
A Perfect Circle was how I found out about Maynard, his music has helped me in so many ways. Especially "Weak and Powerless" and "The Noose". You are absolutely correct on how he can make people feel. Only a few musicians can truly make you feel their emotions.
I LOVE those songs. Chills everytime I listen even after all these years .
This is my favorite APC song, followed very closely by Gravity, this song gives me full body chills all over. Hearing it live just about took me out
Gravity is also incredible, agreed! would love to see Polo react to that song
Gravity hits me in the feels everytime I listen to it. I love it!
Not many people mention Gravity which is amazing... its also in my top 5 APC pieces along with By and Down, and Orestes.
I hoped they would play it when I saw them, but they didn't. Probably best that they didnt.. lol.
Tool is always my favorite band. But Gravity is my favorite song. The idea of the insurmountable force, the thing that cannot be fought, where people always go for this 'fight at all costs' mentality. The ability to discern I must surrender and move on, is in itself powerful af.
How do you feel about this song? There's so much pain in this I have listened to it a few more times sense recording and love it even more especially the intro
Love this track. I highly recommend "Grand Canyon" and "Horizons" by Puscifer. The harmonies on those tracks will give you those full body chills. Love the reactions, keep up the good work!
This is an awesome song. If a song doesn't trigger an emotion in me, it is not something I enjoy. This song triggers emotions.❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥
this is one of their most evocative tracks, in my experience. I can be in a peppy mood and if I listen to this it immediately grounds me into something darker, more pensive. some people may not enjoy that kind of thing lol, but it speaks to the power of the song. it's an Experience, I'm so glad you did this video! Brena is another one from mer de noms that gets me in the guts like that every time.
This whole album is epic. One of my favorites. I can always listen straight through.
I prefer the recording, personally. it's shorter, but the drums are more intricate, and the crescendo at the end hits different
Id definitely recommend listening to 3 libras from perfect circle too.
I saw an interview with Maynard where he said that Perfect Circle was his "leftside female brain" and Tool his Right male. Listening to his music i understand what he means but i certainly couldn't articulate what that actually means with words.
I love how this dark song is a waltz.
This is my favorite APC song. I used to sleep to this album and on two different occasions I woke up crying, tears running down my face and this song was playing. 🥺. I can and have listened to this song on repeat. #TOOL #APC #HOG
That entire Red Rocks performance is sonic ectasy.
This performance is unreal. That ascending vocal run when he sings "... youuuuu" that last time is just god tier stuff. I had the good fortune of seeing them play this song twice live in my life and it hit just as hard in person. Powerful beyond words.
I have loved A Perfect Circle from the first time I saw the video for Judith one morning before high school on MTV2 (yes I'm old). I originally just fell in love with the music and Maynard's voice. As I grew older, I started actually digging into the lyrics, and APC became my favorite band. They really hit me when my mother had a stroke, battled cancer, and passed away.
My favorite APC song and favorite Maynard performance . LOVE IT CHILLS BRO
Between this, Thomas and Vanishing, those are my favorite APC songs. The whole Stone and Echo set shows an undeniable power of Maynard’s vocal range. Thank you for reacting to this, glad you enjoyed it!
thomas, the doubter ...bill hicks (who mjk references as inspiration throughout his entire career) would often use thomas the doubter throughout his comedy.
"here's TOM with the weather!" (side note: mr. show fans may remember "highs & lows weather report" sketch feat bob odenkirk in a yellow not-so-sub marine type craft ...that i believe may pay homage to hicks here, and also hermetic alchemy, not unlike beatles, but i digress...)
from disposition: "watch the weather change"^
(song from perspective of thomas the doubter)
jesus & the brontosaurus ...story. from memory?
and jesus and His disciples walked towards nazareth but oh the trail was blocked by a giant brontosaurus, with a splinter in his pawww. the disciples did run a'screamin' "i'm sure gonna mention this in my book" said luke. "well, i'm sure gonna mention this in MY book" said john. "mmmm, i'm not sure what i saw", SAID THOMAS. "it was a big fucking lizard, thomas!" said matthew... but jesus was unafraid, he took the splinter out of the brontosaurus's paw, and the brontosaurus became His friend. and jesus sent him to scotland to live in a loch were he can live attracting fat american families with their fat american dollars." and jesus wept, i believe is the next verse...
oh also, terence mckenna has a fucking amazing way of interpretting the story of thomas the doubter (his favorite biblical verse) ...i recommend mjk fans check it out since it is right up his alley. um, it kinda resembles what's happening in stinkfist m/v.
transcript:
my favorite story in the gospels, and this shows you how ... i am, my favorite story in the gospels, is the story of the apostel thomas. because you will recall that after the crucifixion - this is a good place to end, this is an alchemical story - after the crucifixion christ appeared to the apostels in the upper room in jerusalem, 40 days after, and thomas was not there. i don't know where he was, somewhere, they sent him out for sandwiches or something. anyway he came back, and they said "the master was with us" and he said "come oooon you guys," he said, "you been smoking too much red lab we brought in 3 weeks ago," and they said "no no the master was with us," and he said, "unless i put my hand into the wound, i will not believe it."
so then time passed, and then christ came again to the apostels, and thomas was among them on this second get go, and christ walked in and kicked off his overshoes and looked around the room, and he said "thomas, come forward, put your hand into the wound," which he did, which he did.
now, people have different interpretations of this story, my interpretation of it ... is that alone among all human beings, in all of human history, only one person was ever so priviliged as to be allowed to touch the resurrected body, it was thomas the doubter, who was allowed to touch the resurrection body because he didn't believe, and so if you want to touch the resurrection body, be very careful with where you commit your belief, keep your eyes open, stay smart, take it easy...
- terence mckenna
from "pushit":
take care not to make me(christ/46&2) enter
'cause if i do we both(/44&2)" may disappear
44&2/lead = false sense of seperation, ego
46&2/gold = true nature, unconditional one
2 of my favorites that novices totally look over💯👊
Massive TOOL fan here and I remember when I first APC, this song in particular spoke to me. It provided a new way to connect to my emotions through Maynard's voice. That probably sounds weird but it's hard to explain.
My favorite APC song. Be sure to check out the studio recording, his voice is perfect. I love this version for the extended guitar solo. Don't sleep on Billy's vocals
Maynards mother had an aneurysm that left her paralyzed and confined to a wheel chair when he was 11. I believe is what I've read or heard most. There are plenty of songs in is catalog from all three of his bands. Maynard is versatile and a true artist in music because he is so unique in his approach and style.
So many amazing APC songs. I think my favourite is The Package
And then I listened to The Outsider again today and remembered how much I love that song. That’s the problem with anything Maynard does, it’s all so bloody good!!
Fire. Those vocal runs from Maynard. The drum shredding. And the insane guitar solos in that unique tone. All that with the harmony between the singers….this is a top 5 live all time song.
I was lucky enough to see this show at Red Rocks in Morrison, Colorado by Denver 💯🔥
Just listen to the noise. That song gets me every time it's incredible
Goosebumps every time.
still remember buying this blindly on CD way back when.. just knowing it would be amazing because of being a MJK side jam. I still get goose bumps every time I listen to this album.
album version first always bro. makes the twists hit harder when you hear the live stuff
Ahh, you've discovered the greatness that is A Perfect Circle!
My favorite by them(which is also very heavy) is Counting Bodies Like Sheep To The Rhythm Of The War Drums.
Tool seems to be more of his anger about his life and his mom's situation, a perfect circle seems to be sympathy and pain, and puscifer seems more moving on. And finding humor in the pain 💔. Maynard get a lot of attention but we can't not recognize Billy's amazing guitar work which always makes you really feel the song
Billy really doesn't get enough attention despite it starting out as his baby. Love his work
His singing really mixes nicely with Maynard’s also
@@benkelly7182 It also helps that they have similar vocal styles (check out Ashes Divide, Billy's solo project), much like Layne Staley and Jerry Cantrell from AIC.
@@bink yep I have that album!
Tool is the mind, APC the heart, Puscifer the libido.
I absolutely love this song! Can't wait for more reactions from Maynard's various projects. He works with the best musicians. Just pure unbridled talent!
The studio version of this song is definitely worth a listen, as well.
If you want to see an APC fan Weak and Powerless, ask them to pick between "Orestes" and "3 Libras", most can't handle the Gravity of such a choice. "Eat the Elephant" is their newest album; I listen to it By and Down the River as I watch the ducks ruffle their Feathers; they never let me Pet them. But it's peaceful, time slows through the Hourglass - near there is my favorite Rose, so pretty, like a Sleeping Beauty. There's also The Hollow, where I met Judith and Thomas, but now I'm kind of The Outsider. I could TalkTalk for hours, but I have to go, The Package just arrived.
Jeff Friedl on drums. Underrated monster.
Yes I just looked that up apparently freese left in 2012 so this has to be Jeff if this performance was 2013
I really like eat the elephant from the last album
Orestes was one of King Agamemnons sons in Greek mythology, and was not present when Agamemnon returned from the Trojan War with the Trojan princess Cassandra as his concubine, and thus Orestes was not present for Agamemnon's murder by Aegisthus, (the lover of his wife, Clytemnestra - Orestes' mother).
Seven years later, Orestes returns from Athens, and avenges his father's death by slaying both Aegisthus, and his own mother Clytemnestra. Orestes goes mad after killing his own mother, and he is pursued by the Erinyes (Furies), whose duty it is to punish any violation of the ties of family piety. He takes refuge in the temple at Delphi; but, even though Apollo had ordered him to kill his mother, the god is powerless to protect Orestes from the consequences.
A trial before the gods is held, and upon closing of the trial, the goddess Athena votes on the verdict last, announcing that she is for acquittal; the votes are counted and the result is a tie, resulting in an acquittal in accordance with the rules previously stipulated by Athena. For bearing his responsibility in the murder, the Erinyes are converted into the Eumenides, who now offer him wisdom and council.
Looking forward to your reactions to Puscifer.
Fantastic song!
This concert from red rocks is a must watch every song is great
APC’s The outsider is pure GOLD!
don't ever apologize for giving some of your background with these reactions. we're here for you and feelings we coincide with. this is the whole point of reaction videos. people like us look for this material, because we can't always get it from people we know in our circles. pour your heart out man, we'll except you.
Beautiful
I can't wait for you to get to Puscifer! BULLET TRAIN!
Thank you for doing this one!!!!!!! So deep!
I absolutely love A Perfect Circle. It will never be TOOL. As much as I dig it it can't do what TOOL does. Pucifier can be fun.
So many good songs on this album!!
I was waiting for you to discover more of Maynard's work im such a huge fan of all his work with apc and maybe now an even bigger fan of puscifer there new album is so good personal Prometheus and bread and circus are my favorites
Ooh! Pucifer 'The Humbling River' sticks in my head!
... and not just because of the Transformers Video Game Trailer with Grimlock being all epic at the end...
Man I love Billy Howerdel as a guitarist!!!
Their version of “when the levee breaks” live, is the best live performance I’ve seen. Simply amazing.
Absolutely despise this cover. One of the few things Maynard has done that I HATE
agreed, love it!!
Best APC song, I’ve been waiting for your reaction to this
Polo, I revisit this song (one of many Maynard’s) very week bro…..vicariously reliving your journey in every video
Mer De Noms is one of my favorite albums and I would love to see your reactions to the other songs.
This is def one of my favorite songs if not my favorite from APC
As good as this version is from Red Rocks, you'll be amazed by his voice on the studio version. There are some great bootlegs of it from APC's early years as well.
That amazing guitar is brought to you by my "future husband" (kidding, he's already married) Billy Howerdale. The man isn't a regular human...he's part human, part guitar. Love ya Billy 💜
A perfect circle, "The Hollow" is my favorite song from them. It will be in your playlist that day. Thank you POLO!
They are amazing. Check out sick sad little world. Such a good band.
DJ Kilmour, formerly of Jedi Minds is a wicked addition, they wouldnt be the same without him.
Love the reaction bro, looking forward to jumping on the journey with you. Spiral out 🌀🤘
The best live version of any song I've ever heard. Perfection at its finest. Billy's extended solo didn't bother me either.
3 Libras is my favorite song from this album.
Definitely one of my favorite songs from APC. Such a good track.
Their cover of Led Zeppelin’s song when the levee breaks imo is probably his best vocals performance I’ve heard from Maynard. This whole concert is amazing. It’s also from this same concert 🤟
You should always listen to the album version first to get the perfect version then listen to the live version to see how well they pull it off
Thanks for doing my fav song!
I don't understand how he can cry and sing at the time, but it's a lot
The way Maynard and Billy’s voices work together always amazes me. I’d listened to them for years thinking it was all Maynard layered over himself multiple times until seeing videos of them live. (Got to see them live a few years ago after 15 years of being a fan!)
Your one of us better late then never my friend
GREAT request. I still play this one on repeat, singing out loud when driving. My favorite APC song.
Oursider is a great one. 🔥🔥🤘😎💯
That whole first album is incredible! I'm assuming that you know that the guitarist Billy Howerdel is actually Tool's long term guitar tech and writes most of the music? Such a talented guy!
Now you gotta dive into the different sides of APC! By And Down The River is another must hear!
Please, please, please.... do Passive by A Perfect Circle. Under the radar absolute banger.
Josh has just joined with Foo fighters since there drummer passed away .
Amazing track! I've actually never heard this. Guess I need to dive back into APC. Great Vid Polo!
Love this and all APC songs, but my favorite is The Noose! I don’t really know why, but that song I can listen to over and over again! There’s just something about it! Check it out when you get a chance
You should read his book. "A perfect union of contrary things" I think you would love it.
Stank face in full effect!😂 Check out Disillusioned, Gravity, or The Noose ❤❤❤
He shredded those drums
I've been so spoiled when it comes to APC ...they made a DVD to commemorate my first show ...I got to celebrate MJK 50th b-day at one and got to here first time live songs at the other two shows...this performance at Red Rocks was mesmerizing...will never forget it!
Good reaction, Polo, to a good fukkin song. Thanks for the backdrop to the title.
Can't wait until you start getting Puscifer recommendations! Maynard is a busy man between music and wine (among other fascinating endeavors)
The blonde Asian dude on guitar is James Iha from The Smashing Pumpkins who played with APC for a while. Just a little nugget of info lol.
Deff one of my top 5 APC songs! I was so blessed to attend this show at Red Rocks. They actually recorded the whole thing and released a live dvd, Stone and Echo. I highly recommended listening to the studio version after any of these from Red Rocks. They add in so many extra parts and ultimately sound way different.
I’ve said it before, that I love introducing new and different music to people! There r more than enough fake first listens vids on the tube and u know when they r bullshit! I love music and u can see it when someone has that same feeling as u. I like the way that u read the lyrics first, not so much for the meaning, but to and try and figure out how Maynard sings these phrases. Nuts! And I’ve got some news for u little buddy, I’m the man, he’s the man, and ur the man as well…
That’s not Josh on the drums here, it’s Jeff Friedl. He is a beast on the drums too.
Maynard is a beast!!!!
His mother had an aneurysm when he was 11. She lived 27 more years(10000 days) confined to wheelchair.
Dude! The live version of momma sed by puscifer. It's a must. Live at club Nokia. Momma sed.
He's saying he didnt want his mother to die but he also didn't like to see her suffer for so long and he had the legal right to pull the plug, so it's very conflicting.
God, I love this song. Wish you listened to the studio version. Studio is always best IMO.
Thanks, Polo.
Always except a very rare few exceptions
JFC nearly 23 years since this albulm was released. I had to go and look cause my heart jumped a beat, 'as it really been that long?' I asked myself, and yes. @Polo love your reactions to Tool and PC but please do not remind your audience of how many years have passed, and therefore how old they are 😭 Feels like only a few years ago, how life flies by when you have a great soundtrack to it.
If you want another good look into Maynard's conflicted relationship growing up with his Mother look into the songs "3 Libras" and "Judith". Also if you keep going down the route of A perfect Circle more please look at any track off the Thirteenth Step album as in my opinion as a listener that album and Mer De Noms were written in a very autobiographical manner to let out Maynard's grievances.
Maynard always puts many layers into his lyrics and I knew who this song was about but I kind of take it as a tragic ending to a co dependent relationship and severing the bond that is killing both of you in different ways
Easily my favorite APC song, truly a monument of emotion and composition
Oh! POLO! The joy of live performance!
Total goosebumps!
His mother was paralyzed for 27 years. Paralysis isn't a static condition. Because of the number of muscles and organs that go into a non-active state, normal function and even ambulatory life becomes increasingly painful and laborious. After nearly 3 decades of watching his mother suffer more and more the thought of euthanasia must have passed more than just fleetingly through his consciousness. Maynard, as well as Orestes, had to battle with the same dilemma. How do you take out the one who gave you life?
Every time I listen to this song, despite the heart wrenching lament that is so palpable, I am overwhelmed with the universal and spectacular beauty of it. This song simply destroys me!