@I believe I first saw the study cited in “the case against sugar”. By Gary Taubes. I do not remember the name of the study but it was in his bibliography. At the time I was attending northwestern and could pull up medical studies for free in the medical library. Hope that helps - I actually read a lot of the research cited in the book.
Have you done full genome testing? That one was on the single best $400 bucks I've spent on my health journey because it uncovered that I have 1 copy of a gene (APOE e4) that makes it so the way I process cholesterol and saturated fat is slower and differentl than other people. Because I had close to the same results as you for overall cholesterol (got up to 198 at peak), so I cut out all of the dairy and increased fiber (legumes and even more veg). So my results got way better. But saturated fat of ANY sort will play a part. Even olive oil has a small amount of saturated fat. So I was pouring that shit on everything and then, yup, biomarkers went in the wrong direction again. Coconut and avocado oil was also a no-go. So even too much of the supposed healthy fats are going to do you in. I haven't gone the statin route only because I have some really nice markers otherwise and tracking my macros (which was also a game changer for me) helps me keep track of how much of any kind of fat is in what I'm consuming. Mito sounds great. I used FunctionHealth - which is also the "over 100 biomarkers" thing but you don't get a nice 2 hour convo with a doctor. They just have a doctor review your results and post some generic response about it, which I didn't like. Anyway, thanks for another great vid!
Hi Ali, I usually really like your content but this one not so much. Short summary of my opinion: this advice makes people worried about things they do not have to worry about, makes them consult doctors they do not need to consult and puts more pressure on an already overpressured healthcare system. I'm sorry but I stopped subscribing to your Fitness Outrageous. I will however remain a pants pally.
One slight criticism. You keep referring to Diabetes, but you specifically should be saying type 2. Type 1 happens in a short period of time and has more to do with genetics than lifestyle. You can ask Nick Jonas, Lily Moss, Este Haim and Rylee Arnold. Plenty of pro athletes are too.
I totally see your perspective on this, especially when it comes to the importance of having a communicative relationship with a healthcare professional who takes the time to explain what's happening and why; it makes a huge difference! However, I do think its worth acknowledging that private health services like Mito Health are cost-prohibitive and inaccessible to many people, even if they do care about their health. I might just be me because I'm sensitive to feeling judged by athletic people, so it felt like you were conflating caring about your health, and therefore spending the money on this service specifically as the only way to properly care about your health. Again, that might just be me. Either way, this is a super interesting video and I'm glad you're in a good place with your health! I'd love to hear if you have any alternative advice for people on how they can reap some of the same benefits, even if they can't use Mito Health specifically, like maybe what kinds of tests to ask for, or other services available elsewhere, but that's only a suggestion.
A person can live a perfectly healthy lifestyle and still have genetic predisposition for certain diseases. It is true that high cholesterol can be prevented but not 100%. Genetics play a huge role and there’s nothing anyone can do to change your genes 🧬. Sometimes you gotta take the medicine if that’s what’s actually best for you.
This seems like something I should do... BUT what is the nature of your agreement with Mito Health? I don't necessarily mind if this is a (paid) promotion, but full transparency is crucial! Also, if this is an undeclared promotion it might get you in trouble legally, and I'd hate to see that.
Statins are not the answer. They throw a wrench in your liver metabolism. Your liver, based on eons of evolutionary data, knows what it is doing, and is making the optimal decisions you seek, as long are you are avoiding processed and industrial foods that were not in human evolutionary history. High LDL is a red herring; focus on ratio of HDL to Triglycerides instead.
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please, speak to Nick Norwitz and read something about Lean Mass Hyper Responder . And then try evaluate your situation again.
I would not take statins, they just influence the marker, it's not going to make you healthier, but may cause long term issues. Anyway it's not addressing the root cause in any way.
Ali, you might think about a calcium score to look at artery buildup, so you could forget the statins and look for the actual damage. Insurance does not cover it but there is a low fixed price. Statins can cause muscle and bone damage. I tried one but after a while, my legs hurt, so I swapped to a low dose. With diet changes, my LDL is 79. Oh, Peter Attia's protocol is beyond extreme. I listened to some of his podcasts and he is hard core!
LDL is actually 2 types measured in one test. The large type is impacted significantly by diet but it doesn’t impact cardiovascular health. The small type is not impacted by diet and it does impact cardiovascular health. Statins only lower the large type. You need more “hidden data”. And you may NOT need statins.
I would like you to do a video with Dr Baker of the carnivore world. For your channel I would like for you to do carnivore for 3 months to see what differences, if any, you would have.
Ok so if any other doctor tells you to go on statins they suck but if a fancy expensive private healthcare guru tells you to go on statins they're awesome and you feel compelled to advertise for them? It's nice that you want to understand the principles and mechanisms of your metabolism but every doctor went through 10 years of training so maybe consider that too before you jump to conclusions about primary health care physicians. They're in fact the ones who make health care accessible and you'd quite simply be fucked without them. Cannot agree with your content here at all.
I really hope one day people will stop saying vegan when they mean vegetarian. Veganism is way beyond what you eat. It is a worldview that has implications on what you eat, and said worldview doesn't care about your health, it cares about the worldview. Happy meat eater here who wants people to be more accurate with their language so that they will not get in trouble with the zealots in the comments later.
Ummmmm... she said vegan and she meant vegan. Vegans don't eat dairy (or other animal byproducts) vegetarians do eat dairy. And not all vegans are vegan in every aspect of their life, sometimes, for some people, it's just about the food :)
@jordanloveseverything you are wrong. Veganism is a package deal. No animal products of any kind anywhere. It is a worldview attached to zero tolerance for animal use or cruelty. The diet implications are an effect, but a cause. You didn't casually be vegan and then decide to maybe eat fish like she mentioned in the video. Additionally, vegans will absolutely personally suffer for the sake of their world view. If veganism isn't the best for your health, it doesn't matter, because that's not why they are vegan. It's about the animals, not about them. Do some research. Go hit a sub reddit. You'll find out fast.
@sevencrickets9258 then what do you call a diet where someone doesn't eat any meat, dairy, or other animal byproducts? It can't be vegetarian - because vegetarians eat eggs, milk, etc. So what do you call it?
@@jordanloveseverything Call it a vegetarian who doesn't eat animal products. Better that than saying your a vegan. Veganism isn't a diet. The diet is a result of the worldview. If synthetic meats can be made that do not use anything from animals, then vegans can and would eat it. It's not about health, or preference of foods. It's explicitly about a worldview surrounding the use and treatment of animals. If being a vegan meant you died young, they would die, because they believe in protection of animals that strongly. Ali casually calling herself a "vegan" and then two seconds later talking about eating fish is fundamentally missing it. She's not vegan and she never was, because it's not about the diet. She is a human that cares about her health, and is willing to eat a diet free from animal products if it means better health markers. I would bet she has some leather products in her home though.
@@sevencrickets9258 I guess I don't see the issue with calling your diet vegan as a short hand for "vegetarian who also doesn't eat animal products" since everyone knows what that means as a short hand. But I'm also not a black and white thinker. I think there's grey areas in everything - including veganism. For example growing plants usually involves pesticides, which kill animals (and tilling, clearing farm land, etc, can kill and displace them as well). So if a vegan would really rather die than have their actions result in the death or injury of an animal then they would probably have all died out by now (unless they grew all of their own food I guess 🤔🤔)
Should I leave that super cool poster up in my gym?
The main driver of cholesterol is sugar not fat. And I am regularly amazed at how many doctors are still unaware of that
I would love to see the research data that supports that claim. I've been dealing with cholesterol issues and I do not consume much sugar.
@I believe I first saw the study cited in “the case against sugar”. By Gary Taubes.
I do not remember the name of the study but it was in his bibliography. At the time I was attending northwestern and could pull up medical studies for free in the medical library.
Hope that helps - I actually read a lot of the research cited in the book.
Average time a primary doctor speaks to a patient is 5 mins and 22 seconds. No wonder you arent happy with your health care
Have you done full genome testing? That one was on the single best $400 bucks I've spent on my health journey because it uncovered that I have 1 copy of a gene (APOE e4) that makes it so the way I process cholesterol and saturated fat is slower and differentl than other people. Because I had close to the same results as you for overall cholesterol (got up to 198 at peak), so I cut out all of the dairy and increased fiber (legumes and even more veg). So my results got way better. But saturated fat of ANY sort will play a part. Even olive oil has a small amount of saturated fat. So I was pouring that shit on everything and then, yup, biomarkers went in the wrong direction again. Coconut and avocado oil was also a no-go. So even too much of the supposed healthy fats are going to do you in. I haven't gone the statin route only because I have some really nice markers otherwise and tracking my macros (which was also a game changer for me) helps me keep track of how much of any kind of fat is in what I'm consuming. Mito sounds great. I used FunctionHealth - which is also the "over 100 biomarkers" thing but you don't get a nice 2 hour convo with a doctor. They just have a doctor review your results and post some generic response about it, which I didn't like. Anyway, thanks for another great vid!
Hi Ali, I usually really like your content but this one not so much. Short summary of my opinion: this advice makes people worried about things they do not have to worry about, makes them consult doctors they do not need to consult and puts more pressure on an already overpressured healthcare system. I'm sorry but I stopped subscribing to your Fitness Outrageous. I will however remain a pants pally.
One slight criticism. You keep referring to Diabetes, but you specifically should be saying type 2. Type 1 happens in a short period of time and has more to do with genetics than lifestyle. You can ask Nick Jonas, Lily Moss, Este Haim and Rylee Arnold. Plenty of pro athletes are too.
I totally see your perspective on this, especially when it comes to the importance of having a communicative relationship with a healthcare professional who takes the time to explain what's happening and why; it makes a huge difference! However, I do think its worth acknowledging that private health services like Mito Health are cost-prohibitive and inaccessible to many people, even if they do care about their health. I might just be me because I'm sensitive to feeling judged by athletic people, so it felt like you were conflating caring about your health, and therefore spending the money on this service specifically as the only way to properly care about your health. Again, that might just be me. Either way, this is a super interesting video and I'm glad you're in a good place with your health! I'd love to hear if you have any alternative advice for people on how they can reap some of the same benefits, even if they can't use Mito Health specifically, like maybe what kinds of tests to ask for, or other services available elsewhere, but that's only a suggestion.
A person can live a perfectly healthy lifestyle and still have genetic predisposition for certain diseases. It is true that high cholesterol can be prevented but not 100%. Genetics play a huge role and there’s nothing anyone can do to change your genes 🧬. Sometimes you gotta take the medicine if that’s what’s actually best for you.
This seems like something I should do... BUT what is the nature of your agreement with Mito Health? I don't necessarily mind if this is a (paid) promotion, but full transparency is crucial! Also, if this is an undeclared promotion it might get you in trouble legally, and I'd hate to see that.
It sure looks like a promotion. The URL in the description includes her name.
Statins are not the answer. They throw a wrench in your liver metabolism. Your liver, based on eons of evolutionary data, knows what it is doing, and is making the optimal decisions you seek, as long are you are avoiding processed and industrial foods that were not in human evolutionary history. High LDL is a red herring; focus on ratio of HDL to Triglycerides instead.
please, speak to Nick Norwitz and read something about Lean Mass Hyper Responder . And then try evaluate your situation again.
FYI I clicked on your link and it says I was invited by Aaron.
I would not take statins, they just influence the marker, it's not going to make you healthier, but may cause long term issues. Anyway it's not addressing the root cause in any way.
Ali, you might think about a calcium score to look at artery buildup, so you could forget the statins and look for the actual damage. Insurance does not cover it but there is a low fixed price.
Statins can cause muscle and bone damage. I tried one but after a while, my legs hurt, so I swapped to a low dose. With diet changes, my LDL is 79.
Oh, Peter Attia's protocol is beyond extreme. I listened to some of his podcasts and he is hard core!
LDL is actually 2 types measured in one test. The large type is impacted significantly by diet but it doesn’t impact cardiovascular health. The small type is not impacted by diet and it does impact cardiovascular health. Statins only lower the large type. You need more “hidden data”. And you may NOT need statins.
You are a lean mass hyper responder. Zero reason for statins or to worry about your ldl
I'm a phlebotomist and men are absolutely wimpier
zetia works better than statins at least for me
If you’d seen a different nutritionist you’d have gotten the opposite advice.
I would like you to do a video with Dr Baker of the carnivore world. For your channel I would like for you to do carnivore for 3 months to see what differences, if any, you would have.
LDL taken on its own means nowt
🤘🤘neat
"high Cholesterol" is bullshit. Read Peter Attia's blog on the subject, he does a deep dive.
Ok so if any other doctor tells you to go on statins they suck but if a fancy expensive private healthcare guru tells you to go on statins they're awesome and you feel compelled to advertise for them? It's nice that you want to understand the principles and mechanisms of your metabolism but every doctor went through 10 years of training so maybe consider that too before you jump to conclusions about primary health care physicians. They're in fact the ones who make health care accessible and you'd quite simply be fucked without them. Cannot agree with your content here at all.
I really hope one day people will stop saying vegan when they mean vegetarian. Veganism is way beyond what you eat. It is a worldview that has implications on what you eat, and said worldview doesn't care about your health, it cares about the worldview. Happy meat eater here who wants people to be more accurate with their language so that they will not get in trouble with the zealots in the comments later.
Ummmmm... she said vegan and she meant vegan. Vegans don't eat dairy (or other animal byproducts) vegetarians do eat dairy. And not all vegans are vegan in every aspect of their life, sometimes, for some people, it's just about the food :)
@jordanloveseverything you are wrong. Veganism is a package deal. No animal products of any kind anywhere. It is a worldview attached to zero tolerance for animal use or cruelty. The diet implications are an effect, but a cause. You didn't casually be vegan and then decide to maybe eat fish like she mentioned in the video. Additionally, vegans will absolutely personally suffer for the sake of their world view. If veganism isn't the best for your health, it doesn't matter, because that's not why they are vegan. It's about the animals, not about them. Do some research. Go hit a sub reddit. You'll find out fast.
@sevencrickets9258 then what do you call a diet where someone doesn't eat any meat, dairy, or other animal byproducts? It can't be vegetarian - because vegetarians eat eggs, milk, etc. So what do you call it?
@@jordanloveseverything Call it a vegetarian who doesn't eat animal products. Better that than saying your a vegan. Veganism isn't a diet. The diet is a result of the worldview. If synthetic meats can be made that do not use anything from animals, then vegans can and would eat it. It's not about health, or preference of foods. It's explicitly about a worldview surrounding the use and treatment of animals. If being a vegan meant you died young, they would die, because they believe in protection of animals that strongly. Ali casually calling herself a "vegan" and then two seconds later talking about eating fish is fundamentally missing it. She's not vegan and she never was, because it's not about the diet. She is a human that cares about her health, and is willing to eat a diet free from animal products if it means better health markers. I would bet she has some leather products in her home though.
@@sevencrickets9258 I guess I don't see the issue with calling your diet vegan as a short hand for "vegetarian who also doesn't eat animal products" since everyone knows what that means as a short hand. But I'm also not a black and white thinker. I think there's grey areas in everything - including veganism. For example growing plants usually involves pesticides, which kill animals (and tilling, clearing farm land, etc, can kill and displace them as well). So if a vegan would really rather die than have their actions result in the death or injury of an animal then they would probably have all died out by now (unless they grew all of their own food I guess 🤔🤔)
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