Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady for 1️⃣ game...Who ya got? Stephen A., Shannon & RC pick 👀 | First Take
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- Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady for 1️⃣ game...Who ya got? Stephen A., Shannon & RC pick 👀 | First Take
On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Ryan Clark and Shannon Sharpe debate whether they would take Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady for one game.
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I’m taking Brady in a win or go home situation against Pat. Why? Because he’s actually done it.
With you blocking for mahomes that game in the sb
Before the game nobody cared, so don't come with that after the game@@stopcampin4097
@@stopcampin4097 the game was still play though. And it’s not like it was a close game. The Chiefs were annihilated.
But that wasn’t the question tho😂😂😂
@@molifts4389 Brady or Mahomes for one game is literally the title of the video😂
When Molly is the only person on first take that's correct, the show is in serious trouble.
I'm sayin bruh😂
Factsss
She’s not correct
It’s sad how Brady isn’t revered the way he deserves to be. Tom can’t even sit in retirement a couple years without the media trying to dethrone him. Go Niners, get the job done for the rest of us
Yeah but its honestly talent wise, Mahomes is the better QB, resume, Brady is obviously better. Its like when people saying Jordan is better even though he has 6 rings to Russell’s 11.
@@JLC942it’s not the same at all because Bill Russell played in an era with 10 teams. Brady dominated in the era where they could play defense and in Mahomes era. If anything, Mahomes has it a lot easier now
He already beat him in the playoffs twice relax it’s done!
@@ballinforlife9 the level of competition in this era is not a good as the first 3/4 of Brady’s career. The quarterback play of Arod, Manning, Brees, Rivers, Roethlisberger and I’d even throw young Russ in there, is better than today’s QBs overall. The defenses were better as well, ravens, jets, and Steelers defenses come to mind first
@@Brandon-qd2lbBuccs 31 Tom finds the end zone 3 times!!!! Brady Chiefs 9 Patrick cant find the end zone to save his life Mahomes.
That's crazy TOM BRADY BEAT PAT MCHOMES ALREADY!!!!
Brady about to hear this and come out of retirement again
Patrick mahomes can only do patrick mahomes things when he isnt playing tom brady
The recency bias in sports media is LAUGHABLE. Brady was a legit surgeon. Greatest comeback in Superbowl history. How many comeback wins does Brady have? 7 rings with 2 different teams. Just stop. Give Mahomes a full career before dethroning the real GOAT that actually put that much work in.
Brady already beat Mahomes twice in the playoffs lol. Where is the argument?
Patrick Mahomes scored in 13 seconds against the bills. I’m taking mahomes.
How is Molly gonna cut off, the star of the show? Smh
brady fans are biggest box score merchants i have ever seen they talking about superbowl without oline lmao
Brady going to unretire and get #8 now ⛽️ 🔥
We’ve literally seen that twice already, Brady is 2-0 vs Mahomes in the postseason, nuff said.
Yep!
ESPN is some sellout and TB beat him already
Crazy how the versus argument doesn’t matter in this but everyone else would say what’s they head to head record.
So by that logic you would take Eli Manning over Brady?
Absolutely agree with you. They talk about “one game” but the ultimate “one game” in the NFL is the Super Bowl. Tom made it to 10 super bowls and won 7. Brady came from down 28-3 against the Falcons in the superbowl. I rest my case.
I love how much shannon values lebrons longevity and hales it like the greatest thing ever but just glosses over it for brady
He’s racially motivated that’s why lol
Longevity for a QB is a given though and not as impressive. Especially when you’ve always had a great O-line and have the fewest sacks
@@lukehoff3623I think you should look up QB stats after age 40 before saying longevity is a given
@@lukehoff3623Brady didn’t always have the best o-lines 😂😂 Brady took a pats team to the championship game when he got sacked 40+ times 😂😂😂 stop it
What could possibly be the difference between LeBron and Brady do you think?
Imagine Brady playing a 20 year career winning 7 SBs, 3 MVPs, 5 SB MVPs, being the all time leader in every major category & having people already forget and dismiss his greatness a year after he retires. For a player he’s 2-0 against in the playoffs with a fraction of what he’s accomplished
Well said that’s ridiculous
Have we ever seen a QB start off his career by making the afc championship every season he’s been in the league…
And have you seen the stats for mahomes first 6 seasons compared to Brady’s … the stats screams mahomes
@@andrewcortez3353 he avg 70 more passing yards & got 5 more wins with 1 less Super Bowl more playoff losses than Brady in a softer era & he started off on a good team Brady didn’t it’s a difference mahomes is great but not better than Brady plus he lost to old Tom twice inna playoffs that pretty much seal the deal on that conversation to me
@@tyleakclark14 since Brady loss to Eli twice in the Super Bowl do you have Eli as your goat then?
It’s a team sport mostly but you can’t deny the statistics if you go year by year it just don’t compare
The only thing Brady got on mahomes is a team success award which is superbowl but QB stats just don’t compare if you go individual and accolades performances
@@tyleakclark14Brady was a game manager in those early Super Bowl wins because he had a top ranked defense so he didn’t have to produce at a high level on offense and having the most clutch kicker in NFL history helps. Oh and by the way, Bledsoe got NE to the Super Bowl in 2001, Not Brady.
Tom Brady is literally the most clutch athlete of all time. Why on earth would you take anyone over him for one game?
I still say it’s a tossup between him and MJ
Like 1A 1B
@@matthewsdonnellytrue
Mahomes 😂😂
Because Mahomes wouldn't need to be clutch, he would score so much more than he can then manage the game
@@ryannhoopslmao you’re joking?
Thank you Molly cause this is getting ridiculous
Molly schooled them. lol
Shawty said u turned into a swifty 😂
They’re talking one game and actually answering the question, she’s talking about comparing careers. That’s a whole different topic that can’t even be discussed yet because Mahomes hasn’t even played 10 years yet.
absoutlely ridiculous with a GYATT
@@TyBoogzzyes in one game the smart person should still take Brady
Everyone is comfortable disrespecting Tom and Peyton. Oh, how quickly we forget!
People forget real quick. Tom Brady almost had a perfect season! He has 7 Super Bowl rings! He went to a new team and won the Super Bowl. They are comparing a guy with 2 rings to a guy with 7!! Mahomes better win this next Super Bowl! Since they are already crowning him as the best Quarterback
@@ericmack001I firmly believe if antonio brown didn't literally quit on the bucs when they were playing against the jets, the would've beat the rams and went to the super bowl. That was the game where he threw his last TD to mike evans.
Patrick is already passed Peyton
People forgetting what Brady was in his prime...you simply could not give him the ball with a minute on the clock
Nobody forgot, that’s what Mahomes is now
For real, Brady had a superstar receiver for one year and they have 20+ touchdowns
@@JohnTaylor-oz4riBrady beat him though. Twice. Head to head. On different teams in huge games. So what Mahomes is wasn’t good enough for what a 40+ year old man was. Cmon now.
@@markislivingdeliberatelyEli Manning beat Brady twice...
Thank you, won against Mahomes on the ROAD! In his 40’s!
It was definitely a different nfl when brady started... unfair comparison
Facts, but the eye test would tell you mahomes is more talented. Unless you’re a casual and don’t actually watch him play. Brady is still the goat but that’s career wise and accomplishments. We’re talking about 1 game here
Tom Brady showed he can play in any era. When he came into the NFL from Michigan, every team was still running a pro-style offense with three, five, and seven step drop backs for quarterbacks and much fewer shotgun sets. Mahomes is a system quarterback who would not be effective in a pro-style offense because he's been allowed to play street ball thanks to the NFL making it harder to play defense due to just about every kind of hit that would rattle receivers now being illegal.
It was the same NFL that Peyton threw for 4000yds and 35-40TD in the regular season to win the MVP, until he choked in the playoff.
@@RobbieStacks90 facts💯💯💯
@@RobbieStacks90you have no clue what you're talking about.
didnt brady beat mahomes in a one game situation... twice?
Yeah, just like his daddy Eli Manning
Didn’t Brady lose a bowl to a backup?
In one game situation ? So take foles then?
@@andrewcortez3353 and Kurt Warner lost a Super bowl to a back up QB named Tom Brady.. its crazy
We actually saw this situation happen in a superbowl and Brady taught him a lesson. One threw 2 picks and the other threw 3 TDs.
Mahomes also had no o-line to speak of either whole Brady has a great one
And mahomes was still the better QB that day, funny
@@jtworkowskyand still lost funny
@@mrlee2328there was no talk about that o line before the game brady owns mahomes in the big game
@@Juju-ue3njyes it was 😂😂😂 revisionists history 😒 I bet you also forgot the bucs literally played a super bowl at home no way they was letting the chiefs get ckose
One of the reasons Brady gets slighted in these debates about him vs Mahomes, is because he doesn't have great mobility. So people who see Mahomes as better than Brady, generally look at his ability to better escape pressure than Brady and his ability to create when the play breaks down, as a quality that makes him a more dangerous quarterback. But the thing is, Brady understood that mobility was a limitation of his and that's y he mastered the mental part of the game from taking the check down, throwing with anticipation, using his pocket mobility, throwing the ball away to live to see another down, etc. to the point where he was rarely in a position where his lack of mobility could be exploited by the defense. He made his strengths his super power and didn't allow his weaknesses to become handicaps. Mahomes is more dynamic and physically talented than Brady but no one has ever executed the position of QB better than Brady
that's one reason, but not the MAIN reason. the MAIN reason why Brady gets slighted is because for 2+ decades, this man broke hearts more than any other quarterback in the past 20 years. Regular season, Postseason, Super Bowl it don't matter. More times than not, you had to literally wait until triple zeroes before you can say you won. Putting the Super Bowl comebacks to the side for a second, what about the 24-0 comeback against Denver when Peyton was there? what about the comeback against Cleveland years ago when they trailed by 11 points. Don't get me started on how they owned Pittsburgh during his reign. Plus, for most of his career the man didn't have any star guys outside of Randy Moss and Gronk. To top it off, the NFL was MORE tougher than it is now. You can get knocked out in the 2000s and prior. Nowadays, you hit them hard, flags come out more.
This comment is a GEM! 💎 you hit the nail on the head bro. I TOTALLY AGREE!👍🏼
@@albertomartinez-bq9nn if you want to say 15 is #2, I'm not going to argue that. He has the talent, arm strength and can do things Brady can't do. Not arguing that, but let's not forget what TB12 did.
Joe Montana did, put Brady in the 80s and let’s see how he gets rid of the ball while his receivers are getting bumped around plus D lineman giving Brady real hits. That’s why Joe is the greatest
@@johnre5342 if you want to say Joe Cool, that's cool, but I'm not putting 15 over TB12.
You cannot put Patrick Mahomes in the same conversation as Tom Brady. Not even close
So Patrick Maholmes on his best day is not on the same as Tom Brady on his best day?
Havent you get it yet all this people are the same who pick mahomes to win against tom brady on the afc and still the same people who pick mahomes again on the super bowl and they were still waiting for it to happen unfortunately it never did 😂😂😂😂
Bro the only 2 guys Mahomes has lost to in meaningful games was the GOAT & a Hot Burrow..
Wym not even close!!!! Do you understand Mahomes has only been in the league for 6-7 years? Go look at Brady’s stats in his first 6-7 years. I agree, not even close….Mahomes is ahead.
In order for Mahomes to surpass Tom he would need to average 5,000 yards per season for the next 12 years. He would also need to average 40 tds for the next 10.75 seasons. He would need to average 450 completions for the next 13.5 years and would need to win at least 5 more superbowls. This is all highly unlikely. We forget how astronomical Brady’s numbers are and how he plays at a high level into his 40’s.
Tom all day. I’m from KC I’ve witnessed that man keep us from 2 super bowls
It was Dee Ford who kept your guys from the 1st SB, not Brady.
And it was the Tampa defense and no O-line that kept KC from the other.
Brady beat him twice. Yeah if Dee Ford stayed put it would not been intercepted he knew it was a free play Brady better. Mchomes might get 3 and that’s it Joe Burrow coming Josh will finally beat him. He won’t last long as Brady.
little boy u crazy, tom lost to eli manning twice , patrick mahomeboy all day🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ecpracticesquad4674bucs win that superbowl regardless, they were up 28-9 with 11 minutes left in the 3rd … bucs woulda prolly put up 40 plus … very unlikely bucs lose
Tom Brady must’ve turned down a espn contract when he chose fox for them to be disrespecting him like this it’s embarrassing he literally beat the man in the playoffs and superbowl
exactly
You knew the producers were gonna run with the story if the chiefs won the A. F c championship. I don't get why everyone surprised. This is only about the anonymous producers making headlines with this hot button question and making money nothing more
That must be the case! 😂😂😂
Mahomes all day and everyday
@@charlesledbetter907 what’s his record against Tom Brady when it matters the most 🤔
Did everyone forget about Brady 🤣🤣 🤦🏾♂️
I did 😁😁
Mahomes can do anything Brady can do but Brady can’t do anything Mahomes can do
Mfs need to remember what that man did for the league. Providing us 23 years of greatness. It's disrespectful to crown someone else prematurely, especially when Brady snatch that dudes chains twice.
@@Castle621 exactly brady just white
so is Mahomes lol what does race have to do with anything
Mahomes is greatness. 6 straight AFC’s. Fourth SB Performance. Great start but it is no fair comparing what Tom did in his whole body of work compared to these 6 great years.
Brady went to 8 straight AFC title games
Brady played for 22 years and in those years he went to 10 Superbowls!!! Who can make that same claim? He played in what, 13 AFC championship games? That's unheard of..He played in 50% of the Superbowls that were played while he was active!!!! That is remarkable!!!
@@shaochiavangan check mahomes stats to where Brady stats 6 years in mahomes is way ahead an mahomes ain’t even 30 yet the afc is gonna be miserable with him around for along time
@@mike-vc1qm bro ..Brady's early years were from the 2000s, any QB now has better stats than Brady. Brady beat mahomes on the biggest stage twice, the 2018 AFC championship and the 2020 Superbowl.
2-0 vs mahomes in the playoff.
7 superbowl to 2.
10 super bowl appearance to 4
8 straight AFC championship to 6
14 total conference appearances to 6
It is truly a sad day in this world when the voice of Molly Qerim is the voice of reason.
LMAO 😂 These dudes literally picked Mahomes over Brady!! Make no mistake, Mahomes is elite. I can see him win a couple more Super Bowls. But to pick him over Brady?! Really?! Can’t take these clowns seriously.
What do you expect from this highly reactionary, goldfish memory crew? They were just saying Brady was the GOAT a couple years ago when he bludgeoned Mahomes and the Chiefs for his SEVENTH championship.
Lol once he gets 7 rings…
Mahomes over brady easy
It's for views they deliberately use recency biased to have something to tell about. Brady at 43 beat Mahomes 25 in the superbowl so Brady all day and always for me.
That part
So Shannon gonna ignore Brady down 28-3 in the biggest game and won? 😂 these analysts are being clowns
Fr lmao molly being the only logical one is crazy to me lmao
He's still bothered by that comment Skip made 😂
Shannon hates Brady
@@Thankyou423.3don't why if he was black he probably wouldn't
@@Thankyou423.3 yeah but smith agreeing with him? The fact all three of these guys agreed is crazy. Just doesn’t make sense
Brady and its not even close. He did it AGAINST Mahomes in the AFC championship game. Brady's the GOAT for a reason.
Tell me you didn't read the question without telling me you didn't read the question
It’s strange how the media wants to replace him so badly
Dee Ford did it against Mahomes in the AFC Champ game
@@suv3534Jalen hurts did it for mahomes
Don’t forget the SB too
Didn't Brady beat Mahomes 2 times in the playoffs?
Nothing against Patrick Mahomes, but he is no Tom Brady. Brady played for over two decades on Teams that were typically very undistinguished & under-talented on Offense, and where he had no "game breaking" or Pro-Bowl level players around him. Yet he would find a way to pull out victory from the jaws of defeat time and time and time again, and perform miraculously in the most critical points in the game in spite of that -- as a matter of routine!!! -- and elevate the whole Team around him to play beyond themselves and really believe in themselves. Brady took his Team to 10 [TEN] Super Bowls, won 7 [SEVEN] (and had them leading at the end of the 4th quarter in EACH of those 3 losses -- but the Defense just failed to hold it). Now..... let's see what happens after another 9 to10 years. Maybe ... Mahomes will catch up to Brady ... but it is also probably far more likely that Mahomes loses some of his mobility (with either age, or injuries) and he cannot then even perform at the same level. Tom Brady, on the other hand, did not ever need "mobility" to outplay & outperform the rest of the League. And at the age of 44 (forty-four), Tom Brady threw for 5300 Yards and had 43 TDs (he deserved to have won the NFL MVP that season). Patrick Mahomes, on the other hand, did not have a season THAT prolific & great right here in the year 2023 .. at the age of 28 -- while he is still in the very Prime of his life!! When the dust settles, History will show that no one ever did MORE than Tom Brady, and do it as consistently as Brady did, and do it without much Pro-Bowl talent around him -- with lots of cast offs, bad draft choices, & journeyman receivers always coming and going.
People always wanted to place or project Aaron Rogers "ahead of" Brady too, or Peyton Manning (who often choked in his Big Games) ahead of him too -- but they could never make it work. Brady was just simply more masterful, compiled better on-field results, and did it for longer than anyone else did ... period.
And for people who say that Brady was just "carried by the Defense" in the early years --- that is also very WRONG. Tom Brady won 4 different AFC Player-of-the-week Awards in that first season of playing (2001), one NFL Player-of-the-month award, and had a Pro-Bowl season. Then ... in the Playoffs he threw for 340 yards IN A BLIZZARD, and won the NFL MVP in that year's Super Bowl. And... his second Super Bowl was a SHOOTOUT. So the "Defense" was never the reason for Brady's success, nor .. all of his amazing "come-from-behind" Victories in the clutch against frankly better NFL Teams THAT GOT THEM to be a perennial Dynasty. Tom Brady was ALWAYS just special, and ALWAYS was the real difference maker (that same 2001 Team was 0 - 2 under Belichick with Drew Bledsoe, and 5 - 11 the previous year). So .......get back to me after Patrick Mahomes wins his EIGHTH Super Bowl folks ....
Stephen A again, didn’t pick Patrick Mahomes to win the game last week
Almost as if it’s a team sport. It’s the same reason why Brady winning those games over Mahomes doesn’t move the needle that much when talking about talent
But will pick in a win or die game. rofl
Hes got new information since last week
Brady got him in his own stadium in his 40's
Brady got him in his own stadium in his 40's
Shannon has been saying that for years.
But he lost in both playoff games to Brady
Now add a little context. Go ahead I’ll wait
@@JohnTaylor-oz4ri Fine Mahomes lost the first game because he got off to a bad start and the second game because he played Hero ball.
@@dazzle1545I hope it context is a joke right? Be a little more honest with ur context. I know you can do it. I believe
Rightt😂😂 they literally forgot the 43 years old due beat 22-23 young QB in the post season 2 times even Patrick had the arm and leg talented but still no match to the og that had own football for the last 20 decades 🤷
@@edgarmeza8905 try to explain the context behind those games . I know you’ll get there bro. I believe
You can take Mahomes, Manning, or Montana over Brady for “one game.” The problem with that is, we have 10 instances of Tom Brady playing for “One game”(Super Bowl). Tom is 7-3 in those games. I’m taking Tom.
In 2 weeks, your own calculations could prove your own statement incorrect.
If mahomes next 20 passes are picks in the Super Bowl his qbr will still be higher than Brady’s in the playoffs
@@45bands-not-enghthank you
@@TheWalletheadand in 10 years time Mahomes could have a few more Super Bowl Ls too. If you make it to the Super Bowl that many times law of probability says you’re gonna lose a few.
Bet you thought he was gonna have a perfect season his first time facing Eli. His biggest 2 loss in my opinion
Prime Brady n legendary Brady can not DO what Mahomes actually did vs the Bucs lol.. what scrambling would Brady have done? 😂.
Mahomes didn’t score a single TD against the Bucs defense. That Bucs D was historic that day. It may never be done again.
Wow I actually like me Molly’s take on this one 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Lol none of them actually believe they’d take Mahomes. Brady was feared on another level.
u mean his defence was feared 😂, brady dont have 70% of mahomes arm talent and 0% of his legs
why was he feard then?@@ssanj17
@@ssanj17and he beat ur Mahomes as a senior citizen haha
@@spikey5216 mahomes as rookie 3td against top 1 defence brady 1 td and 2 int carried by belichick defence as usual
@MoonIronTR we get why ur mad. In those head to heads Brady ripped Mahomes' heart out.
This is literally their job to overhype over criticize over analyze and over sensationalize everything in that order
Did they forget Brady beat Mahomes twice, once in the AFC and the other on the SB? Never bet against Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr.!
Brady has been in ideal circumstances every single time!! Really no debate here
@@kyshaunsmith154 right it's not even close it's tom brady
@@kyshaunsmith154 facts we're acting like mahomes oline wasn"t in complete shambles and even when mahomes did make those incredible throws, we gon act like the receiver weren't dropping passes. And as far as the first time they played in the playoffs, 1 it was mahomes first year starting and 2 only reason brady won is because he got the ball first in OT. I'm not saying brady didn't play a part but you cant act like brady outplayed him when he clearly didn't.
@@kyshaunsmith154Mahomes has had better weapons his entire career
Skip Bayless burner account.
As the biggest Mahomes fanboy in America I can’t believe no one took Brady. Ryan’s points about Mahomes were valid but I feel Brady has the same ability to make his team better as well. And we can’t forget that Brady beat us twice in the playoffs so although I’m hopeful Mahomes can surpass him as the goat I can’t ignore what Brady has done
Well as a goat brady fan, Tom Brady did loose to eli twice and had the deflated football game. Patrick mahomes is just on a better start
Eye test says Mahomes is way better.
Yeah unfortunately for Pat even if he surpasses Brady in appearances or wins, Brady can always say “yeah but I beat you head to head. With different teams.” Even if Pat becomes the goat Brady will always be his daddy 😂
Well football is a teamsport... but since Brady "beat" mahomes. Can I say Eli Manning is better than Brady because he beat him twice?
@@VintageFuture_ not gonna lie you guys are changing my opinion bringing up Eli I can more confidently say Mahomeboy! Lol
My thoughts got projected into Molly. When they were saying this I'm saying "the disrespect for Brady" then Molly jumps in and says exactly what I'm thinking 😂
how is this disrespectful for brady?? pat is a better player in the eye test😂😂 brady is h thegreater player
So more rings = greater player?
So you think like Molly… not a good sign and very casual take 😂
@@laitisvi1750 were not comparing 5 rings to 7. It's 2 to 7. Brady did it for 20 years. And won with 2 different teams. So you're saying someone who's been in the league for 6 years is already better than Brady?? Longevity and consistently over 20 years matters. You're also assuming the only thing I think matters is rings. If that was the case, that all I would've mentioned but I didn't 🤷🏽♂️
@@andrewcortez3353 obviously you don't watch anything on ESPN because it's also some former players that were split on the question. I wasn't aware Molly was the only person on the entire network that didn't pick Pat 😂
The disrespect to Brady already … will Mahomes probably end up the GOAT … there’s a strong chance… , but as of now Mahomes couldn’t even take on a 40+ year old Brady in the AFC championship game or super bowl when they faced each other… ya context matters but the fact is Mahomes is human… ain’t no one more Clutch than Brady yet
Mahomes played perfect in that afc championship game he just never got a chance in OT but the Super Bowl I’ll give you that the Bucs defense took advantage of that weak oline and Brady played great
There’s been playoff runs that Brady has lead practice squad receivers to the superbowl. Jesus Shannon is so emotional with his responses
Ahh yes Randy Moss, Gronk, Wes welker, Eledmen, cooks, troy brown,Evan’s, Godwin. Classic practice squad receivers. Not saying he has had the best wrs of all time but let’s not act like he had nobody not to mention the absolute stellar defenses he had
And what I’m saying is not a knock on Brady I believe trying to knock a qb for having good players is unbelievably stupid but let’s not act like he had nothing
exactly he starts getting loud it's annoying asf
Have you watched the Chiefs receivers this year?
Lmao Shannon is probably still hurt about Skip Bayless comment 💀
Which one was that?
I think ESPN is lobbying against Tom Brady with way none of the commentators couldn’t argue for Tom Brady
Because he beat alll of them at some point lol
So you'd take Brady over Pat? & This is coming from a life long patriots fan
ESPN isn't lobbying against anybody. The simple fact is that Patrick Mahomes is a better quarter back by far. He is an ATHLETE, Tom is not. Get over it.
@@JayPatekkIn a 1 game winner take all we’ve already seen it twice, Brady is 2-0 vs Mahomes in the postseason, yes I’m taking Brady
@@JayPatekk I would take the QB who already beat him twice so yea since this question has already been answered on two different occasions on the gridiron. Yall have serious memory issues RUclips has highlights go watch him take two L’s to Brady conversation over.
Oh we are talking one game? 28-3. Nuff said.
Or even better, 31-9.
Brady legit had 3 HOF careers in his 22+ years playing. I respect both QB’s, but Brady was far more cerebral in those comebacks in said games, especially in that 25 point comeback in the Superbowl. Mahomes is definitely more athletic than Brady, but Brady is more cerebral than Mahomes.
Brady was more cerebral than anybody by far, but his arm talent was outstanding as well.
Omg how many times do must we debate this? Brady is the goat, he's the answer, has all the rings, stats and accolades. Yes Mahomes is chasing him, but hasn't caught him yet, so we'll be watching for the next decade to see if he could.
The question had nothing to do with who’s the goat it was simply who you take in a one game winner takes all.🤦🏾♂️
@@cumbusta9175 Brady.
@@cumbusta9175 The guy with 7 superbowls but that's just me
@@cumbusta9175Brady.
@@JamesJiansenand you’d be at home like they were against the cowboys last year 😂
Brady had far less to work with
Much more impressive than Mahomes
One Game on the line I’m taking Brady
And even more incredible is Brady went to another Team and WON the Championship
And Brady beat Mahomes in to 2 huge spots The AFC Championship and The Superbowl
Brady is plays Big in the Clutch 28-3 in a SUPERBOWL best to ever lace em up
How did he have less to work with? That's just a complete lie, he had great defenses and the best coach in the NFL when he won those first 3 Superbowls, Mahomes is much more impressive on the field.
And those 2 losses aren't Mahomes fault so stop it, Mahomes actually outplayed Brady in the AFC Championship Game and had no O line in the Superbowl, You're just plain wrong.
So with your logic Eli Manning is better than Brady? 😂
this is the one, mahomes came into an all pro team his first year, one that did fine without him the year before
@@wiseandstrong3386 he outplayed Brady in the AFC Championship? He didn't
Brady drove the team in Overtime on enemy turf with the most clutch drive in an AFC Championship game
Earlier that same season he Outplayed Mahomes in Foxboro in a Shootout
Sorry I'm taking Brady in his Prime the guy was money
@@stirdi indeed Mahomes had a stacked team to work with basically plug in and play
Brady had to build into something
4:18, Molly hits back🤣😂no no no, you had your time Stephen A.!🤣😂
Okay, so Mahomes just leapfrogged Peyton all of a sudden? Montana? This recency bias is insane
We already saw this game Patrick Mahomes didn’t score a touchdown, and Tom Brady scored multiple ones… 31 to 9
So ironic that the Giants fan in this segment is the one person defending Tom Brady. Kudos to you Molly……..the disrespect from the other three guys was really pissing me off 🤬
Dis respect ? Lol you didn’t say Brady first 3 super bowls lmaooo man was a brock Purdy 😂😂 he had the best defense and the best coach … and Mahomes out played him both games they matched up if it wasn’t for offside kc would won and no ot for Brady and the with the bucs he had no o line at all and Brady had a stack team and home field
@@Hatibaby445how did he out okay Tom on the Super Bowl? Pat had 2 picks zero tds.
How the best coach looks without him? LOL@@Hatibaby445
@@Hatibaby445he has way better stats in his first 3 superbowls than mahomes did 🤷🏻♂️. Mahomes has Zach Wilson numbers in the superbowl
@@timsweeney684Can’t argue with these Malovers they don’t understand facts.
They really comparing a 14 pt comeback to a 25, only ESPN 😂
Tom beat him head to head bye
Dee ford offsides and a depleted o line in the Super Bowl but yeah okay
@@bsmoove2357🎻🎻🎻🎻
Nah the bucs beat the chiefs in the Super Bowl sure Patrick mahomes was arguably was the best player in that game with no left tackles. I’m sorry you give me a team of equal stars and players and I have to chose who is my quarterback it’s mahomes he’s just a better qb for one game
@@Generaleletrodoghe played an F game. Threw 4 interceptable throws. Had 17 bad ones. He was bad bruh
WHY DO YALL LET MOLLY SPEAK? WHY???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
The Falcons comeback, and the 4th quarter performances by Brady against the Seahawks and also against the Jaguars under the brightest lights were incredible. Not sure we'll ever see anything like Brady in those spots. Teams were afraid of him, they knew he was NEVER to be counted out. Plus beating Mahomes in two big games. For now the answer is Brady and it's not close
Excellent attempt at being correct
Eli beat Brady in the biggest moments . Brady fans so delusional . Mahomes is already passing Brady in shorter time and more talented . I’m loving this downfall for Brady fans
Listen, Brady is the goat as of right now, for sure, and that’s not the debate here. The question here is who you got between the two for one game. It’s not even a question when you just look at the talent/eye tests and the numbers. to determine who is the better player between Tom and Patrick in their first seven seasons? It’s a fair comparison here. Just in that time frame, Patrick has done way more impressive things than Brady.
And it’s true Brady has done all of that, but I’ve seen Mahomes win a game in 13 seconds. And has a record of 8-2 after trailing by double digits in the 4th quarter in the playoffs.
I’m sorry, but let’s make sure that we aren't just talking without context. The two wins that Brady has against Mahomes are because of a coin toss and a decimated O-line. That same year, Brady won the superbowl against Mahomes; the Buccaneers lost the game early that year against Mahomes with the Chiefs O-line healthy.
mahomes down 24-0 blowout texans also that seahawks game was chokejob with worst call in history of NFL lmao and also brady didnt beat mahomes 2 times it was bucs and pats defense
@@markvasil3307so since Eli beat Brady twice and Brady beat Mahomes twice that means Eli is over Mahomes too 💀Montana was top dog til Brady came u think Montana fans having a downfall? No they still talk about his 4-0 record his game winning drive to Clark etc etc. There’s no way Brady fans will have a downfall from what we actually witnessed from him throughout his career on top of his 10 year drought he still gave NE the lead with 1 min left in both SB losses to NY
I dislike these arguments. These comparisons are only because he's winning. What if he loses? What If he loses this SB? The disrespect for a man just 2 years ago, these same men were either outright gaslighting or hating on the man. Smh
Sorry, but I'm with Molly on this one. Tom has done more with less.
Nah. That “weapons” argument was weak.
@@bonkgiartist give Brady Mahomes weapons he wins 6 in a row
@@maxwell29op3nigga what weapons lmaooo gronk is comparable to kelsey what else does pat have
brady had a defence 😂 , mahome’s in his first year with a good defence
"Less." Dude won 7 superbowls yet never had to get any of them with a defense that was worse than what Mahomes had in his first Superbowl win.
This Brady disrespect is crazy
Eli must be the GOAT according to some people’s logic in this comment section- Eli beat Brady TWICE. Just because Brady beat Mahomes twice, doesn’t mean he’s better. It’s a testament of how good Tom is, but not the full story
Wrong again yeah Eli beat Tom twice. But Eli only got two SB. U got to remember because Brady and them were so cocky. Then remembered Brady beat Eli to go 16-0. They took Giants lightly. Then that Giants Defense was no joke. But what Brady do at the end score made it 14-10 with 2 minutes left. That defense allow them to blow that game. Lucky plays. Because people got tired hearing abt Brady. Then second SB Wes walker drop it that game was over if he caught that ball. Then defense again gave points up. Then Brady made up for it in other SB. So he when in Kansas City and beat them. Then in SB with Tampa he did it again. So it is a difference Phi simms beat Joe Montana twice in playoffs he still not better then Joe. Giants had defense to stop him. However Brady score with him in afc championship game. He had to be at his best with 2min Brady when down and score.
@@keithjubilee2808 he's simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the comments that brady is better because he beat mahomes in sb... you say that the giants only won because they had great defense but you don't account for great defense in brady's career. he had top 10 rankings for points allowed per drive for over a decade. The defense helped him big time to stall out big games to clutch it up. he had on average negative passer rating and negative net yards per attempt difference between regular and post season. All I'm saying is that there's a lot of factors that go into a quarterback's success. We can all have a discussion as fans without outright saying someone's wrong simply you don't agree with it. I'd say that brady is the most clutch quarterback based on his track record. He could suck for 3 quarters but as long as his defense did their job well he'd clutch it up in 4th quarter.
Exactly, Peyton Manning is 3-1 Vs Brady in Conference Championship. That head to head argument is nonsense like they play one on one.
🎉 for once molly knows more than everyone else. At the exact same point in their careers, Brady had three. This has been a defensive team for the last two years not on Mahomes team.
That's false
I was gonna say Molly was right
1 v 3 against racists honestly
@@davidmason3671 what's does Brady race have to do with anything lol
😂😂 someone. Saying Molly knows anything about sports is sad af
She came with the most casual take after all that😂
And brady had top 5 defenses his whole career run 😂
Brady was 2-0 against Mahomes in the playoffs with his weaker teams. Easily Brady. 7>2.
Eli manning 2-0
Mahomes with no oline and a bad defense and an OT game when Mahomes never saw the ball in his first year starting, that only went to ot because of a pre-snap penalty yeah alright buddy. Brady is the Goat and Mahomes has a slim chance of getting 7 but Brady even in 03 and 04 when they went b2b Brady wasn’t this good. Brady was drafted in 2000, it took him almost a decade to get to this level of dominance that KC has reached.
Bro said Brady had the weakers teams 😂..
@@kyshaunsmith154 i meant it was brady's weaker teams of his SB run. Did Brady have Hill, Kelce, or Chris Jones btw?
@@Warriors49ersbrady won the Super Bowl without gronk and his best wr was Edelman they really tripping 😂😂
Tom Brady started playing when the NFL was more violent and had less rules for the quarterback and everyone and still achieved greatness. Mahomes started playing in the nice year of NFL with a bunch of new rules and protections. Not to mention Brady beat Mahomes like 4 times and Mahomes beat Brady zero times.
Brady went up against much better defences. Brady also did more with low end talent , yeah Mahomes is not at Brady's level.
Molly asked them "one game" and now she's mentioned resume, goat, weapons, and longevity. Lmao
Ya she should have mentioned 40 year old Brady won head to head against Mahomes Kelce and Hil … in the AFC championship and Super Bowl … this recency bias is unreal
They Did Have 1 Game and Brady HUMILIATED Mahomes "31-9"
@@ryanlebard3787bro we all saw those games, mahomes lead 3 4th quarter comebacks and lost in overtime without touching the ball in the afc champ and in the superbowl he had no o line literally backed up by stats the most pressured a qb has ever faced. I’m with you that Brady is the goat but the head to head is a weak argument
@@dominicdecoco7950 big facts we cant like mahomes isnt ON PACE to have the better career.
@@dominicdecoco7950using 4th quarter comeback as an argument doesn’t work unless you win last I checked ? At the end of the day Mahomes had a crappy O line with a prime Kelce and Hill… and Brady was 44-45 years old (I can’t remember) point is they were both at a disadvantage , not to mention Brady had a torn meniscus…just because Brady made it look easy at that age and with an injury doesn’t mean it wasn’t a disadvantage for him .. if your O line is Shitty do what Brady does and release the ball quick enough to nullify pass rush… Brady did that his whole career
Brady owned mahomes twice in the play offs
Funny. One game take it all. I’ll take Brady who beat Patrick when it mattered
That’s what I’m taking Eli over Brady
If there is one thing I have learnt watching football, it’s that you never bet against Tom Brady.
And I was always hoping he’d lose
Actually is you took the field his whole career you would be up money can’t say that about mahomes
When one of the most disliked, irrational, and loud people on TV is the voice of reason (even though she was not eloquent in making her case), you know how foolish the other panelists look and sound in comparison to Molly trying to put anyone in the universe of Tom Brady. It's hilarious of people just forget Burrow and Jalen Hurts were both robbed last year and Mahomes should be sitting one 1 SB, and even the Niners Chiefs SB from 2019 was full of Chiefs breaks with Nick Bosa getting held all game, plus a Kittle bogus OPI before the half that would have led to at the very least 3 pts if not 7. That's not to mention all the regular season games with bogus calls that have led to positioning them in the playoffs. The NFL has handed the Chiefs and Mahomes everything. Meanwhile, Brady primarily got one major call, which was the tuck rule...a really crap rule, but it was correctly called at the time. Over time, he benefited from bad calls as well as got screwed. It evened out because he played 21 years in the league. Mahomes has gotten an unprecedented amount of favoritism in just 6 short years with the NFL promoting the Swifties, handing the Chiefs the #1 seed because of Damar Hamlin's near tragedy, etc.
brady is the most clutch player of all time. yes mahomes has talent but so does rodgers. for one game, brady gives you the best chance. simple.
What talent ? Brady had a way strknger arm. All Mahomes got over him is Mobility. In all other 20 QB categories - Brady got him beat
actually eli manning is the most clutch, but tom brady is hands down the goat.
@@rosscardenas6636 Brady is better because he did it for 21 years. Eli did for two years
I never thought molly would sound like the most logical person out the bunch. Use to think you was annoying molly 😢 I was wrong. Only smart one in the room about football or atleast this argument smh lmao crazy world man
Molly was as shocked as I was when Stephen A yelled at her.
Honestly I would of too😅
Did Molly not hear the question?? It was a in 1 game scenario, after rudely interrupting Steven she was on a Tom Brady Rant about his career “GREATNESS”. I was screaming at the TV, please “Zip it”. Listen to the question before you interrupt and in my opinion make a fool of yourself. Just Saying……So please continue Steven A……..Sir please continue
What is all this c*** about I'm never betting against Patrick mahomes? Well, Chiefs lost 6 times this year. If you count against the spread he had a losing year Along with a WHOPPING 18 TURNOVERS. It's disgraceful and he needs to step down...
This is just dumb; Lets stick to the question; If you had 1 game were you either win or go home; Last i checked during the AFC Championship game, Brady beat Mahomes and sent him home; They played in the Super bowl and he sent him home. Outside of the regular season, when it has counted the most, Brady has sent him home; So please stop it. We all know Mahomes is probably the better player in terms of talent, but when it comes down to the wire, Brady is the GOAT.
I agree
That's literally not the question tho. It's asking if everything else was the same and all you had to do was pick your QB, who would it be. It's not Patriots or Bucs vs Chiefs .
Having everything be the same such as team and staff changes nothing for me. Brady is the only one out of the two to actually change teams/systems and still win. I think of him in a similar way to how people view Larry Bird. Neither are the most athletic, but boy they will always find a way to win, and are clutch when it matters. I Have nothing against Mahomes, he is amazing and is probably on pace to dethrone Brady one day. @@drexeldragon1723
Can't believe I am saying this but Molly has a point.
Molly actually school all of you in this Y'all are always quick to crown these fools
Laughable. I hope these clowns know that Brady and Mahomes have played each other two times in the playoffs, and AFC championship game and a Superbowl and Brady beat Mahomes both times! And call me when Mahomes brings a team back from 28-3 to win his 5th Superbowl, and then a sixth and seventh after that. Call me when Mahomes wins multiple Superbowls with as a less a talent corps as he did compared to Mahomes. These are the same people who said B Manning over Brady, then it was Brees over Brady, then it was Rodgers over Brady, and since all those haven't worked out for them now it's Mahomes over Brady... rubbish
Bruh, the Brady disrespect is real. After all hes done, people still see him as Tom the lil backup from Michigan.
The crazy thing is that people arent considering that Mahomes plays in a pass happy era of the nfl. Dudes dont hit as hard anymore, defenders cant make plays without getting penalized, and the rules heavily favor the offense.
Brady played against monsters like Ray Lewis, Patrick Willis, Ed Reed, Kam Chancellor.....
With anyone else they would start counting rings, but when it comes to Mahomeboy rings dont matter anymore.
With Jordan and many other goats rings play a major factor. Dudes be out here moving the goal posts😂
This is the discourse for Mahomes coming off a game where he scored 17 points and nothing in the second half? Pat is incredible and on his way there but cmon this is just disrespectful at this point
Didn’t Tom score 13 against the Rams 😂 boy how you fanboys forget.
Brady had plenty of games like that
@@milesaheadpodcasttom was 41 🤡 ✌️
@@milesaheadpodcast not my point. Brady was already the goat by then. Pat is not even halfway to catching him and after yesterday they’re ready to take him over Brady’s 20+ year resume
Brady couldnt even score 17pts against the Giants in the SB the first time, then why hes the GOAT if thats how you look at it?
The worshiping of Mahomes after this performance is absolutely laughable.
The chiefs averaged 3.1 yards per play after the first two drives of the game. They did absolutely NOTHING for 10 consecutive drives
But we still won and are back to our next superbowl. Cry all u want, Brady is retired now. He is the goat but the current face of the NFL is Mahomes
Nobody who says Brady is the goat talks about his talent or his stats, they only talk about rings, so shut your dumbahh up
@@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr where in my comment do I say the chiefs aren’t a GREAT team? They’re incredible. 4 super bowls in 5 years is unheard of.
I’m simply saying stating the obvious, the offense did nothing after the first quarter yesterday and they are some how getting all the credit. The 2023 chiefs are clearly and obviously a defensive led team and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Doesn't matter, he won and played great that's all that matters.
@@wiseandstrong3386 claiming that mahomes “played great” is absolutely embarrassing 😂
It seems as if people on Firsttake/ESPN forgot that Mahomes lost to Tom Brady in the Super Bowl and AFC championship.
RC and Unc talking about “winner take all” game. He had two chances against Brady and came up short 🤷🏽♂️
Neither player plays defense does Brady play defense or Mahomes? Mshomes was special in the Super Bowl loss! He had like a broken toe, an offense line they had to put together last second, tyreek hill dropped liked three touchdowns. If Mahomes was healthy chiefs win that game, but it’s okay
Yeah but he played great and it was his first season starting
Thank You...These Sports Media Analysts are Soap Opera Actors Full of Hot Takes
Brady had two chances against Eli Manning and came up short too buddy. That's not how this works. Brady also had 4 chances against Peyton Manning in the AFC championship game and came up short 3 times. Would you take Eli or Peyton over Brady? No right?
This isn't the question. It's assuming everything else is the same, who's your QB pick? Not the Patriots or Bucs vs the Chiefs. Sheesh.
When Patrick Mahomes had a chance to beat Tom Brady to be on his level, did he know he couldn’t get it done I can’t believe I’m defending Brady who I’m not a fan of but you people crack me up first you did Joe, Montana and Brady now is Brady and Mahomes How come when somebody achieves great Then you can’t just accept individual for what he does instead of comparing him to somebody else Joe, Montana was great. Tom Brady was great, and the books are still being written on my homes. Personally, I don’t like it.
Molly being the voice of reason. It's Brady. He went against Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, where it was dangerous to throw down the middle. None of this cupcake defense nonsense you see nowadays. Mahomes should be on his knees thanking Brady for setting the tone for today's standard of defense against QB's. So, the real argument should go into the direction of Jordan and Lebron:
"Which generation they're playing in?"
Stephen A acts like we need a history lesson every time he talks. Just answer the question without a novel. 😂
We won't context not just some mindless drivel. I know, smooth brains find this intolerable.
@@bumpsy2358 na. He has to state everyone’s accomplishments and rambles on and on. It’s only a matter of time Shannon takes over.
I want Joe Montana. He never lost a Super Bowl. 4-0, 11 TD's - 0 INT's.
I take Brady Joe had it easy in SB. John Elway wack bengals and Joe had defense. See I watch back then. Brady had to play Ray Lewis them Giants defense. Giants knock Joe out playoffs and blew him out. Put Brady on that 49ers team and he would 4peated.
@@keithjubilee2808brady would've had his career cut in half playing in that era from the crying, montana was perfect in superbowls never lost to eli twice and a back up, brady choked a perfect szn and wasted moss, montana never wasted rice have a nice day , mr i watched but didnt even comprehend what you saw go play in traffic youngsta
@@BrocktaviusKingofNFCyou lose the argument when the first statement you make is an opinion. I don’t wanna hear would’ve could’ve should’ve
Then joe should now be as equal as MJ then?
Joe had the best defense in the league, along with Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Roger Craig, and the list goes on and on. A high school quaterback could have won a superbowl with that team.
Broo bRaDY beat him twice it’s crazy how we forget mahomes kryptonite is Brady stop it
And Eli Manning is Tom Brady’s kryptonite, doesn’t make him better 🤦🏾♂️
???brady beat roookie new player mamhome when he a young boy thats KRPTONITE?? LMFAOOO 40 year old play 20 years in the league cant beat newbie???omg if brady was23 vs mahmome was23 years old who win YEA MAHOMEEE SUERIPEROR TALENT!!
@@Kellastico what is this have to do with Eli? They asking Brady vs Mahomes ? Use ur brain
R u fuking serious? Do u know the average retire age by NFL players? Brady beat ur Mahomes as a senior citizen fan boy
For the people using the head to head argument yall do know that bird is 6-0 vs Jordan in the playoffs and we don’t say bird is better than Jordan🤷
Mahomes got Tampa in regular season but when it counted Brady Said let's kill this argument know 2-0 Brady over Mahomes not hypothetically Facts.. are yall even Analyst anymore? Sports historians? What's going on? 😢😅😂 🤡
how old ist Pat 28? He will face the same destiny as every mobile QB before him. After his 30 mark when he loses more and more mobility and cant rely on it any more he will become left in the dust very quick. They same happend to Russ Wilson the same talk here on Mahomes. And once again a massiv disrespect over TB12.
Shannon reaction & face, "now we talking about weapons." 😅😅
He’s back to his old ways
Tom Brady at 40 years old > Mahomes today. Easy.
Hope you’re not a comedian
Brady’s second superbowl he threw for 350+ and 3 tds. Bro said it was all defense for his first 3?? Mahomes hasn’t done that in his 3 Super Bowl appearances lmao these analysts are wild.
Brady fans are in denial.
If Mahomes win 4 in 7, it would have taken half the time as Brady who won 4 in 14. Injuries are a part of the game. Mahomes doesn’t need a great team to do what he does. It’s Mahomes over Brady and it’s not even close.
As Skip used to say, "There is one man in sports you DON'T bet against." Brady is 2-0 against Mahomes in the playoffs, and that was Brady in his 40s... Are these people high?
I'll bet against him if I have a Manning brother lol. Eli is 2-0 in the superbowl against him and Peyton is 3-1 against him in the AFC championship game
I’ll bet for Eli Manning every single time, see how dumb you sound saying that? Gtfo dumbahh
@@kushalnellore1588 Eli I agree with, Peyton I disagree with, Brady beat Peyton in a playoff game in 2001 to go on to win the Super Bowl.
For the people using the head to head argument yall do know that bird is 6-0 vs Jordan in the playoffs and we don’t say bird is better than Jordan🤷
@YEGGS_1 That's still 3-2 buddy and Brady was up 2-0 and lost 3 straight to Manning in the prime of his career
Only two QBs have beaten Mahomes in the playoffs so far. Tom Brady (twice) and Joe Burrow. Tom Brady all day. Who Dey!!
Didn’t this scenario already happen twice? We saw how that ended lol