By far the most detailed monitor review I've ever seen on RUclips. Even more so than those of Hardware Unboxed (which I also really like). Hope this channel grows!
I recently discovered this channel about a week ago and I am amazed by the level of details in which these reviews go over. Definitely in-depth that goes beyond the "BUZZ WORDS" of "300hz" "FAST" etc etc. Thank you so much for providing such an informative view on these products and spending the time to do all this testing!!! Cannot say thank you enough. I hope you get to do more of these reviews with future monitor displays.
Fantastic video! And great pursuit tests, as well as some excellent observations about strobing. However, one major correction: TestUFO already supports VRR (AdaptiveSync / G-SYNC) in internal tests. The problem is Chome/FireFox doesn't support TestUFO VRR, it only plays TestUFO at max-Hz. There are many people toiling away on improving HTML standards that I want to thank them for. There is a VRR implementation of TestUFO coming later this year. It's best to say that "The current web standards does not yet allow VRR, though the web standards groups are working on that" to accurately explain TestUFO VRR limitation. Your custom VRR pursuit camera app correctly uses the Blur Busters pursuit camera sync-track invention! 👍
Absolutely amazing content, I have never seen a monitor review so comprehensive and detailed. Great production as well, clear voice, and zero bullshit. Can't wait to see more!
Dude, your channel is amazing. Simply the best monitor reviews I have seen on the Internet. It is good to find a reviewer who really cares about the annoying motion blur of LCDs. Achieving a good strobing mode (specially at 60 Hz) is the direction the industry should take.
Dude, your reviews are underrated. They are better to decide on important factors for gaming than those reviews from hardwareunboxed or pc monitors, which are already good. Your work is so helpful, paying not only attention to coating, colorrepresentation etc., but also to the most important aspect for gaming: motionclarity. In this aspect having not only response-times, motionblur on different refreshrates, but also backlightstrobing at different refreshrates, including ELMB-Sync, is fantastic. We need more of this and you need a lot more subs! Edit - Regarding the topic: I dont know the technical limitations Asus has to overcome, but not being able to adjust overdrive during ELMB is absolutely gooney, preventing this from being a good start into having adaptive sync-tech as well as motionblur reduction at the same time. At least I would have bought the monitor with that options.
Thank you! I'm really hoping that with the USB service port on the back of these that ASUS can give us some kind of firmware update. If enough bigger channels complain about it, I think ASUS might seriously consider it. Tim at HUB mentioned that ASUS had sent him a review sample of the VG279QM, so hopefully he'll point it out.
@@ApertureGrille That is interessting to hear, even though it would make my momentary choices even harder: - Viewsonic XG270 - Zowie XL2746s - Viewsonic XG270QG Actually im fine with 144hz, i just want the impossible cake - Good image and motion. So i thought it is better to go for a good motionblurreduction at 144hz rather than going for even higher Refreshrates. Hearing that the XG270 has better backlightstrobing than XG270QG, cause it is adjusted by blurbusters and offers more refreshrate headroom, which is allegedly important for good backlightstrobing is kinda silly. In my country the XG270QG costs 300€ more. but 270qg seems to have better imagequality and 1440p, dont know how important that is too me. If XG270 is barely better than a TN panel, then i could also go for Zowie XL2746s, which seems to have decent blur reduction. IF the Asus comes into that calculation again, it will get even harder :X
I can't believe how good these reviews are. I've seen hundreds of reviews over the years and none of them come even close to being so in-depth as yours. Thank you so much, I hope we see a real change in the industry because of people like you.
Should perform fairly the same. I've had similar experience with the Acer Predator 25" and 27" panels. The only outlier is the Acer Nitro XV253QX which is slightly different. My friend bought the 25" version and is quite happy with it. I checked for backlight bleed and ips glow and surprisingly it was astonishingly good just like in this panel being reviewed. TLDR: If your happy with this review, go get the 25" panel ;) Thank me later! (Also, buy from a place where you can get a replacement easily, ASUS panels in particular have pretty bad Q/C) EDIT: Just to be clear, my friend bought the VG259QM (319 USD on Microcenter)
I usually prefer bigger monitors, so the lower PPI of the ASUS doesn't bother me. I use different methodology than HUB, but I think the new AU Optronics panels used in both the 27" and 25" variants should perform similarly. But I'd love to test both! And one benefit of the ASUS for me (either the VG279QM or VG259QM) is the additional 40 Hz. Since I play a lot of Quake Live, which has a 250 FPS limit, the extra framerate overhead allows me to stay in the variable refresh range.
@@ApertureGrille actually i bought both to compare and idk why but: Vg259qm - has much more visible halos on 80 Overdrive at Ufo test. Vg279qm - has less visible halos on 80OD at ufo test. Its like having 60 od on 25 inch version. 27 inch ver has worse elmb vs 25 inch ver. 25 inch had better white color when 27 inch had yellowish white even after trying a lot of calobrations.
@@sebash6 Thanks for the report. How specifically was the ELMB better on the 25" version? As for the white, I may have just been lucky to get a panel with very good uniformity, and you perhaps got unlucky. I wish that weren't the case when buying monitors.
@@ApertureGrille i think this is only visual illusion due to better ppi. BTW I switched to MSI Mag251rx and the motion blur is even better. Less aggresive cross talk.
All I can say is Holy. Shit. That was the most detailed review of a monitor I have ever seen. It is literally all the info you would ever need to know about a monitor. Work on your thumbnail game and you should be at 100k subs in no time.
You need to do more reviews. This is amazing. I'm a Quake Live player too, and wish I still had a CRT. You understand this shit and its so well presented. Please do more. I'm always hoping we get back to CRT quality in response times.
Like - this has to be the best review I've ever watched. Holy shait man, good job with the video. I'm not an expert in this stuff, but you definitely hooked me up watching almost the whole video while I came here only for few things. Keep it up, this is some quality content.
Once again another amazing monitor review. I used your VG27AQ video to make my purchase of that monitor, and I agree the elmb sync isn't what it should be but besides that I'm really happy with it, I just continue to use my CRT when I want that motion clarity and black levels in certain games.
thank you sooo much for these in-depth reviews, especially checking out strobing. Instead of trying to get that right manufacturers just focus on marketing big HZ numbers because the average consumer has no fucking idea about sample-and-hold blur
There's actually more on the review page about strobe crosstalk that I didn't cover in this video. I had to cut it because this video is already too long.
excuse me sir,, i wanted to buy monitor for gaming which good for these days especially on 160-240hz budget.. ill be very gratefull if you want to give your though about it..
@@ApertureGrille hello. Best review i saw even too detailed. You have huge knowledge. I want buy this display or 25 inch version. Is hard to decide between bigger screen and better quality. How you can rate this 27 screen picture quality in 1080? Can you make some short video how to ser this monitor in games like CS or moba games? Is a bit confusing - should all this modes have to be turned on?
Sebastian E. Lech go for the 25 inch if you can find it as it’s not available in the US yet. Set it at 280hz with elmb sync on if you consistently get over 240fps (which you should in CS) or turn off elmb sync and set overdrive to 60 if you can not consistently maintain 240fps and higher
Thank you! The only negative I've heard about the 25" version of the AU Optronics panel is that it may be more prone to image retention. But response times should be similar. I'm still using mine, even over the VG27AQ, for games.
The best and most through testing/review of a monitor I have seen to date on RUclips. Also loved your video on input lag! Do you have plans to test the AOC 24G2? It is a 144Hz 1080p IPS monitor which has recieved great response from other reviewers. I'm guessing it is going to be popular. Also do you have a Patreon where you can be supported? Would love to see more tests at level of detail but I understand that getting products can be costly. Thanks again, a5hun, for the great work.
So at first, that's the best monitor review I have ever seen. Keep it up and you will grow big My question is more based on personal preferences. But which monitors can you recommend for playing professional fps games? Probably 1920x1080p, 240hz+, ULMB/ELM etc.
I haven't reviewed enough to say for certain (and I'm definitely not great at FPS games), but I'm really interested to see how Zowie's DyAc modes perform on the new XL2546S and XL2746S. TN panels should have slightly cleaner strobing modes. But those are... just a bit too expensive for me to review.
Thank you! It's harder than I thought to get review samples, and all the new and interesting monitors are very expensive ($700+). I'm working on my next video now; although it won't be a monitor review, it'll cover LCD testing, and I think it'll clear up a lot of questions people have with response times.
Actually i'd love if you'd test the XL2546S. You do comprehensive tests beyond what i've seen any youtube monitor reviewer do and it really gives us the whole picture about a monitor (pun intended), and pretty much everything one would want to know. It's impressive and you earned yourself a well deserved subscriber.
What an amazing review of a monitor! I've frankly never seen a more in depth video review of a monitor before. I have tried out most of the new fast ips panels and I have to say, you should really do a review on the Acer Predator XB253Q GX. It and alongside it, the Acer Nitro XV253QX are by far the best gaming monitors in terms of input lag. I've never felt such snappiness before. Unfortunately the former only strobes at 120Hz but it is a proper MBR implementation! If your chasing that CRT goodness, I highly recommend you give it a shot!
Excellent video reviews. Level of detail is insane especially with self developed frog test. Your videos were very helpful confirming that my first monitor was trash (kg271u) and helped me to purchase my new one (the one on this review but the 25 inch one)
Jesus Christ the best explained and most informative review on this monitor. Thank you so much for this 👍🏽 Btw would you prefer to get the 24.5’ model or stick with the 27’?? I’ve heard the sharpness is better but I have both and my blind eyes can’t tell the difference
Thanks! They use slightly different panels, and I've heard the 25" model is slightly more prone to temporary image retention, but they should both perform roughly the same. I'm not a big fan of small screens... the bigger, the better. But neither version will look amazing compared to a QHD screen. The VG279QM is still my favorite 240+ Hz FHD screen, but for most people, and for me personally, I'd opt for a 27" QHD screen. The monitor I'm using right now is the Lenovo Y27q-20, which uses the same panel that's in LG's 27GL850, and it's a fantastic monitor.
I usually do not comment on tech reviews since I am literally the GOD of tech. Been around this "display tech scene" for over 20 years. I seen every yt account on tech reviews that are seriously flawed and in no means a review. - yea some need to post it as its there only income and this that or other situation. People will rarely get to meet the guy who's got the patents or the scientific end of this or that let alone understand it. Your getting close to having the base understanding of Display tech. Perhaps give Zisworks a call if your interested in learning more. This is by far in no way new to me as I've own custom 285 hz LCD panels since 2010- yet big cheers to you for taking the time to set up video and produce and edit - Thanks brother. let the world know what a true in depth review should be about. Cheers to you again!
Really appreciate your in depth monitor reviews, especially the black frame insertion testing. Would love to see you review the Benq zowie Xl2746s and their low motion blur implementation.
Hey man, Love the way you combine RT and overshoot into CAD. Never seen anyone else do that before, you really deserve more views for this kind of idea. I have a point of suggestion/discussion: as I understand it, you have 3 sigma "band" in the pixel response graph within which the signal error doesn't count toward the CAD integration (it was mentioned in I think your first monitor review). What if you applied a much larger "band" to also account for over/undershoots not noticeable to the average user? Considering these monitors are used for gaming, I'd argue that even an overshoot of, say, 10% of dynamic range isn't going to bother most people. For example, in the Acer KG271U video, at 14:08, both graphs show small, but persistent steady state errors that pile up. I feel like errors like this are much less noticeable than a huge, short spike and so shouldn't really be "punished" equally. Anyway, keep up the good work. Your level of depth is so much better than the "mainstream" stuff.
Sorry for the delayed reply! I'm super excited when anyone has questions about methodology! And I'm also jazzed that someone actually watched that LG review :) I spent a lot of time fretting about how to construct the CAD measurement at first. 10% to 90% response time + an overshoot percent I think misses a ton of information about how an LCD behaves. Take a look at OD 80 for both 85 Hz and 144 Hz: www.aperturegrille.com/reviews/ASUSVG279QM/Images/OD-Hz-Matrix.png They have the same percentage overshoot, but the 85 Hz response in reality is way worse. But you're right about small deviations. When I was first playing around with algorithms, I wanted to use variance, (x - mean)^2, to really penalize being far away from the ideal response, but I think the power 2 was too high, and I really don't know what power is ideal, so I just went with absolute deviation. And this might just be me trying to justify my own choice, but it's also fairly easy to explain to a moderately technically minded audience. In the case of the KG271U at the timestamp you linked, that area below the stead-state low doesn't account for much of the total CAD, but it's still visible to the eye. To see an example, here's a strobing image from the VG279QM review: www.aperturegrille.com/reviews/ASUSVG279QM/Images/Crosstalk-Frog-Mid.jpg Check out the single pixel white line on the left-hand side. The strobe essentially freezes in time various parts of the LCD transition. The dim ghost images are capturing the long decay trail, kind of like on the KG271U response from earlier. Even very small deviations from the RGB 64 background are quite visible. I do concede that the second and third (and so on) ghost images do matter less, which was your point! But I struggle with how much less, and I think whatever cut-off percentage I would use would mostly just be arbitrarily chosen. But I will consider some modification; CAD has really caused most of the internal strife I feel above everything else I do for the reviews! A conversation I had on reddit may be of interest to you: www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/f26fbr/aoc_24g2_review_the_best_1080p_144hz_monitor_you/fhdcydn/
@@ApertureGrille hey man, thanks for the detailed explanation! It definitely makes more sense now. There's no perfect algorithm but yours is definitely on the right path.
My Acer KG271B broke out of nowhere, ended up getting a full refund in store credits and added €20 and upgraded to the 24.5'' version of this one. Gets here next week and I'm super excited, great review btw!
Thanks for these interesting and detailed reviews. It's a bit too technical at times so I will have to watch the video again and your other videos to understand the information better. I've been looking for a CRT like monitor for a long time. Seems like the ASUS VG279QM or the Viewsonic XG270 could be what i'm looking for but not sure. Since you say the ELMB sync isn't that great or useful I'm very interested to know about the XG270 motion blur option and if that monitor is worth it. As of right now which IPS monitor do you think is the best for a game like Quake Live? Does Quake benefit from 280 hz and more or not really since the maxfps is 250 and 240 hz is enough?
the asus is better than the viewsonic, both work the same regarding elmb just called something differant. the elmb does work well at high refreshes. asus is faster all around. would reccomend it
This is the most comprehensive monitor review I've ever watched. Thank you! Do you think it'd be good to choose VG279QM over XG248Q for competitive gaming?
I'm really impressed with its response times, but you might be bothered by the low PPI. I wouldn't use it for desktop productivity (I have a QHD screen for that), but I don't mind the low PPI in games.
Hey nice video! I've been wanting to ask you a couple questions since you uploaded this review, but I didn't really know how to put them so I dont sound too noobish lol but anyway: 1- First question is simple: If the input lag is high at a fixed 60 hz, why not use the monitor at a fixed 240 hz (since it's a multiple) with a console ? Is it not compatible? 2- I like your CADs technique to evaluate the perfomance of a monitor . I assume the way you see it is the less the CAD number the better since that's the way CRT's behave (instant very bright flash), but in a sample and hold way of displaying the image, is it the closest to zero the better? Wouldn't this cause a strong stroboscopic effect at low hz? Wouldn't it be better to have a reference (hypotethical perfect sample and hold response) CAD like for example a curve (or a triangle for simplicity) that converges to the end point within the frame window time or something like that idk? Anyway keep up the great work!
Sorry the delayed reply! I actually don't have any modern consoles (!), so I'm not familiar with how they behave when connected to high refresh displays. If they can do adaptive-sync at 240 or 280 Hz, that'd be much better for input lag. But what about something like a Switch? You're correct about CAD: I accumulate the difference of the LCD transition compared to a "perfect" square wave transition: instantaneous OFF to ON (or vice versa), and so lower is "better." I put up an illustration here: www.aperturegrille.com/about/Images/RT-About-New.png But about that "better." I like your idea of using a linear response from low to high over the duration of the frame as the reference. At typical television framerates (24, 30), instantaneous transitions like OLED can look jarring from frame to frame, but low framerate content will never look great in motion. Even on slow VA televisions, 24 FPS content is both juddery and smeary. But the biggest problem I see is the average brightness level. Imagine a moving star field (or really just any moving white to black transition). If we used a linear ramp from black to white for each frame, the average brightness would be right in the middle: 50% gray, not white. You can see what that looks like in my BenQ GW2760HS video where I show a star map (and Skyrim!) on a VA panel dimming: ruclips.net/video/PvynyrES7IQ/видео.html If you could take an OLED and "shape" its response to be linear rather than a square-wave wall, that type of dimming would also occur. Non-strobed displays will always have sample-and-hold blur, but we really do want their transitions to happen as fast as possible, so that's why I use a square wave as the reference. Fantastic questions! I'm really excited when people ask about this sort of stuff! I wish I'd seen this sooner! Sorry!
After searching through the swamp I finally found the video I needed after literal 2-3 years of here and there searching for how to set up my monitor better. Finally a video explaining exactly what even the company couldn't explain to me. I see now why.... Lol. You are my hero.
Wow, this is the best review I have seen of the VG279QM! Good work. Question : Does enabling EMLB Sync while in 280 hz mode negatively effect the input lag or grey to grey pixel response times?
Thank you! I didn't test that specifically, but strobing modes generally have a small delay to wait for the pixels to change color before flashing the backlight, perhaps 2 ms. I didn't notice any lag when using ELMB-Sync, though. As for pixel response times, ASUS locks the overdrive setting to 80 while in ELMB modes, so the performance is quite good at higher refresh rates, but the overshoot does become a problem as the framerate drops. The biggest problem with ELMB-Sync is the Devil's Horns type double strobe. It really hurts visual clarity compared with traditional single-strobe modes.
Really good review! Although I do have a question, what is the best OSD setting. I see that you have put that on the website but I don't what you recommended some settings such as the contrast. Here is what's on the website: "Calibrated in Racing Mode, Color Temp. was set at "User Mode" with Red: 100, Green: 100, and Blue: 100. Brightness at 40." Much appreciated if you can reply! :D
Thank you! Other settings should be default. For instance, contrast can be kept at 80, VividPixel at 0, no blue light filter, etc. On most LCDs, changing the contrast setting just clips either the low end or the high end.
@@dragon86271 RTINGS has a VG259QM review, and they've got slightly different settings from mine. They used the same Racing Mode and other defaults, but 97-100-95 for RGB. Without using a colorimeter yourself, it's hard to say if you'd be making your calibration slightly better or slightly worse using those. It's the same technology in the panel from AU Optronics, but there will definitely be small differences between units.
Please if you get the chance can you review this monitor's baby brother the VG259QM? Nevertheless, amazing in-depth review that many more tech RUclipsrs should adopt!
thanks for the review you made the choice for me I Will be getting the hp omen x it might be tn but its 240hz @ 1440p you earned a sub an actual in depth monitor review YES
TN isn't a bad thing as long as it's not dirt cheap TN (which is 6-bit+frc most of the time & a sad excuse for a monitor, but IPS has some of those as well, including at my work place, they look awful compared to my TN).
Thank's for this great review. Could you give me a tipp, what 27" 1440p monitor with 144hz(or more) monitor you could recommend? I had bad experience with Color change in an asus VA panel (curved), a bad backlight bleed with a 27" flat acer nitro and very weak colors by a tn panel 27" from HP. I really would like to knos if there is a tn panel with great/good colors and the specs above :) anybody any idea? Thx in advance
although expensive, my ASUS PG278QR is great. Do note that if you dislike fairly heavy coating ( *can* look grainy at times) this isn't for you. It's also a G-sync monitor that may not make sense for you to purchase (since you didn't mention your GPU).
@@ApertureGrille Thanks to you, I understood for the first time what ELMB Sync really does :D I just ordered the VG279QM and am very excited to try it myself.
i found your channel thanks to blur buster forum and MAAAN! your reviews are the best! I have a question for you... have you noticed high input lag at 75-100hz too? or just at 60hz?
Thank you! I just checked to make sure, but when using the control panel to set the VG279QM to 60 Hz or 85 Hz, the lag is really easy to feel. At 100 Hz, it's still noticeable, but it gets better from there on up. But that only applies when using the control panel to limit the framerate while using DisplayPort. In normal adaptive-sync operation, input lag is minimal throughout the range. I haven't checked with HDMI, but that would only be a problem when using consoles that run at 60 Hz. For PC use, you should always let adaptive-sync displays run at their highest refresh rate.
Amazing content. You are so underrated. Can you please review the Legion Y25-25? It's 240HZ with IPS and pretty low priced compared to its competitors.
Amazing review! I bought the VG259QM, cant calibrate it because i dont have the tools but messing a bit with the settings and its quite great! btw, which preset you use? racing? fps?
a5hun. The detail you've into is out of this world (even though I don't understand it all) I've got this monitor coming in about ten days and as I'm just your average console gaming jo I'm wondering what settings YOU would recommend for Xbox gaming on games like call of duty, battlefield, and FIFA 21. I've got the Xbox one X now but really got the monitor for the upcoming Xbox series X. Response time is what I'm after with the best possible picture. So if you could recommend what settings you think I should us I'd greatly appreciate it. And thank you.
so should i be using the "normal" color temp setting for the color temp monitor settings? Also, how can I calibrate to see better in the dark scenes of, for example, anime? Is default just good enough? Is seems some scenes seem a bit on the darker side than I'd like... Another thing, how can I accurately and correctly calibrate the gamma as you've done in this video with those curves as opposed to what Asus defaults to as you showed?
Hah! Totally agree! LCDs will get faster, and perhaps with some type of scanning backlight, they can match or beat a CRT. The ViewSonic XG270, which was tuned by Blur Busters, gets close, but it's still not quite there.
@@ApertureGrille for srobe we need hi-end PC to keep constant fps to avoid crosstalk(( i can't play videogames since 2014 when I sold my last CRT T__T what do u think abt modern 240hz TNs?
I am about to buy this one since the price is okay where I live. Do you think 240 hz plus 80 overdrive gsynch + elmb with no input lag should be the best option or I should switch some options off?
I'm confused basicly your saying if I don't have the hardware to play a game at 240hz I should avoid this?? Cause there's no way my gtx 1070 will hit them numbers.. was planning on hooking a PS4 to it as well should I get the older vg279q then? Or what would u recommend I want at least 27inches and 1080p
The VG279QM is actually really good throughout the entire adaptive-sync range, so you don't need to play at 200+ FPS to get good response times. I only have a 1070 Ti, so for that RAGE 2 footage, I had to drop the rendering resolution to get those high framerates. But the game feels amazing, and I'm now personally sold on 240+ Hz. I'd be worried about hooking this up to a console, though, with the high 60 Hz input lag. I haven't reviewed the VG279Q, but RTINGS seemed to like it.
I am between the Zowie xl2546K and this monitor. I play mainly FPS games. Need an honest advice to which i should buy. I found two offers being the zowie ( 300) more expensive than the Asus (200).
hey there! thanks to your great and in-depth review i decided to buy this monitor for myself and im really happy with it! so thank you! i do have a question though: what is the game you are playing on the b-roll? is it just a tech-demo / benchmark or something? would greatly appreciate an answer :)
Should you even use ELMB when you're rocking 240hz+ with such fast response times? I'm considering getting the 25" version of this monitor. I just ordered the zowie XL2546S, but i don't see any reason to use a TN panel anymore when there is seemingly practically no difference anymore in response times. This seems to have almost all advantages that you want for competitive gaming as well as having sweet advantages of IPS.
Thank you! Despite ELMB-Sync not working as it should, this is still a really great monitor. And I especially appreciate the 280 Hz top end for Quake Live.
@@ApertureGrille it’s a very good monitor. However as very disappointed when I learned you can’t use adaptive sync when you overclock the monitor tho so I can’t use that feature when playing games where you can’t hold 280 frames. Have to use its native 240hz.
@@ApertureGrille yes. I’ve had this monitor for almost a year. However when I overclock it to 280hz, it locks the refresh rate at 280, even tho the VRR is on (adaptive sync). Soon as I disable the overclock, (back to 240) the adaptive sync works again.
Crazy how few people do LEGIT monitor reviews and youtube isn't bumping you up for them. Instead it's guys who's reviews consist of "looks good to my eyes"
Great detailed review!! One question: so when playing games like cs:go at 280 fps+ would you recommend turning on ulmb and gsync, as it has good performance at those constant framerates if I understood correctly?
If you're getting more than 280 FPS, you might not need to worry about ELMB or ELMB-Sync. At especially high framerates, just turn overdrive to 80, and you should be fine. Quake Live, as I was showing in the video, is capped at 250 FPS, so I need to use adaptive-sync to minimize input lag, but I'd typically prefer to run some sort of strobing mode. Once you get yours in, let us know which you prefer. When I do these videos, I'm never quite sure what to recommend, because I'm a super picky CRT user :)
RUclips algorithm. Please give this man more attention! Best monitor reviewer seen to this date! 💪
I myself can't believe it but he needs to keep it up he well get there.
You ain't never lied. Best I've ever seen. I watched it 2ice.
Agreed.
Nan spittin" straight faccccz
By far the most detailed monitor review I've ever seen on RUclips. Even more so than those of Hardware Unboxed (which I also really like). Hope this channel grows!
I recently discovered this channel about a week ago and I am amazed by the level of details in which these reviews go over. Definitely in-depth that goes beyond the "BUZZ WORDS" of "300hz" "FAST" etc etc. Thank you so much for providing such an informative view on these products and spending the time to do all this testing!!! Cannot say thank you enough. I hope you get to do more of these reviews with future monitor displays.
Fantastic video! And great pursuit tests, as well as some excellent observations about strobing. However, one major correction: TestUFO already supports VRR (AdaptiveSync / G-SYNC) in internal tests. The problem is Chome/FireFox doesn't support TestUFO VRR, it only plays TestUFO at max-Hz. There are many people toiling away on improving HTML standards that I want to thank them for. There is a VRR implementation of TestUFO coming later this year. It's best to say that "The current web standards does not yet allow VRR, though the web standards groups are working on that" to accurately explain TestUFO VRR limitation. Your custom VRR pursuit camera app correctly uses the Blur Busters pursuit camera sync-track invention! 👍
why isn't this monitor on your website!!!!? AHHH!! im inferring this is the official blur buster youtube channel right?
Doesn't Web GL have VRR support?
Absolutely amazing content, I have never seen a monitor review so comprehensive and detailed. Great production as well, clear voice, and zero bullshit. Can't wait to see more!
Wow! Thanks!
Never in my life have i seen gaming tech review thats so in depth. subscribed
Dude, your channel is amazing. Simply the best monitor reviews I have seen on the Internet. It is good to find a reviewer who really cares about the annoying motion blur of LCDs. Achieving a good strobing mode (specially at 60 Hz) is the direction the industry should take.
Thank you!
Dude,
your reviews are underrated. They are better to decide on important factors for gaming than those reviews from hardwareunboxed or pc monitors, which are already good. Your work is so helpful, paying not only attention to coating, colorrepresentation etc., but also to the most important aspect for gaming: motionclarity. In this aspect having not only response-times, motionblur on different refreshrates, but also backlightstrobing at different refreshrates, including ELMB-Sync, is fantastic. We need more of this and you need a lot more subs!
Edit - Regarding the topic: I dont know the technical limitations Asus has to overcome, but not being able to adjust overdrive during ELMB is absolutely gooney, preventing this from being a good start into having adaptive sync-tech as well as motionblur reduction at the same time. At least I would have bought the monitor with that options.
Thank you! I'm really hoping that with the USB service port on the back of these that ASUS can give us some kind of firmware update. If enough bigger channels complain about it, I think ASUS might seriously consider it. Tim at HUB mentioned that ASUS had sent him a review sample of the VG279QM, so hopefully he'll point it out.
@@ApertureGrille That is interessting to hear, even though it would make my momentary choices even harder:
- Viewsonic XG270
- Zowie XL2746s
- Viewsonic XG270QG
Actually im fine with 144hz, i just want the impossible cake - Good image and motion. So i thought it is better to go for a good motionblurreduction at 144hz rather than going for even higher Refreshrates. Hearing that the XG270 has better backlightstrobing than XG270QG, cause it is adjusted by blurbusters and offers more refreshrate headroom, which is allegedly important for good backlightstrobing is kinda silly. In my country the XG270QG costs 300€ more. but 270qg seems to have better imagequality and 1440p, dont know how important that is too me. If XG270 is barely better than a TN panel, then i could also go for Zowie XL2746s, which seems to have decent blur reduction. IF the Asus comes into that calculation again, it will get even harder :X
my god this video is underrated, you go into such depth that I'm in awe
The moment i saw the UNREAL TOURNAMENT thumbnail you gained a new follower … :D nice review btw
wow, of all the youtube channels, yours is the best and most detailed. you deserve more views man
This simply is the best review I have ever seen in my life, please keep up the good work and do more reviews , just amazing.
Thank you so much!
I can't believe how good these reviews are. I've seen hundreds of reviews over the years and none of them come even close to being so in-depth as yours. Thank you so much, I hope we see a real change in the industry because of people like you.
Thank you!
Thanks for the awesome review! Will you review the smaller 25" VG259QM aswell, to check if it is also as good? Ty
Should perform fairly the same. I've had similar experience with the Acer Predator 25" and 27" panels. The only outlier is the Acer Nitro XV253QX which is slightly different. My friend bought the 25" version and is quite happy with it. I checked for backlight bleed and ips glow and surprisingly it was astonishingly good just like in this panel being reviewed.
TLDR: If your happy with this review, go get the 25" panel ;) Thank me later! (Also, buy from a place where you can get a replacement easily, ASUS panels in particular have pretty bad Q/C)
EDIT: Just to be clear, my friend bought the VG259QM (319 USD on Microcenter)
Dude!!!! Why have I not ever seen your reviews!!!! You got a sub man, great content man.
Would you choose Asus VG279QM or MSI MAG251RX ?
Here is the reviev of MSI:
ruclips.net/video/leLp6Qgc6X8/видео.html
I usually prefer bigger monitors, so the lower PPI of the ASUS doesn't bother me. I use different methodology than HUB, but I think the new AU Optronics panels used in both the 27" and 25" variants should perform similarly. But I'd love to test both!
And one benefit of the ASUS for me (either the VG279QM or VG259QM) is the additional 40 Hz. Since I play a lot of Quake Live, which has a 250 FPS limit, the extra framerate overhead allows me to stay in the variable refresh range.
@@ApertureGrille actually i bought both to compare and idk why but:
Vg259qm - has much more visible halos on 80 Overdrive at Ufo test.
Vg279qm - has less visible halos on 80OD at ufo test. Its like having 60 od on 25 inch version.
27 inch ver has worse elmb vs 25 inch ver.
25 inch had better white color when 27 inch had yellowish white even after trying a lot of calobrations.
@@sebash6 Thanks for the report. How specifically was the ELMB better on the 25" version? As for the white, I may have just been lucky to get a panel with very good uniformity, and you perhaps got unlucky. I wish that weren't the case when buying monitors.
@@ApertureGrille i think this is only visual illusion due to better ppi. BTW I switched to MSI Mag251rx and the motion blur is even better. Less aggresive cross talk.
I just bought this monitor and you review it. Good timing 👌
Hey, do you play competitive FPS at all? How is the Fast IPS compared to a TN
All I can say is Holy. Shit. That was the most detailed review of a monitor I have ever seen. It is literally all the info you would ever need to know about a monitor. Work on your thumbnail game and you should be at 100k subs in no time.
You need to do more reviews. This is amazing. I'm a Quake Live player too, and wish I still had a CRT. You understand this shit and its so well presented. Please do more. I'm always hoping we get back to CRT quality in response times.
Thanks! I'd love to do more, but it's harder than I thought to get review samples! I'm hoping to put out more content soon.
Like - this has to be the best review I've ever watched. Holy shait man, good job with the video. I'm not an expert in this stuff, but you definitely hooked me up watching almost the whole video while I came here only for few things. Keep it up, this is some quality content.
Seriously this is the most comprehensive review of this particular model I've seen so far, keep it up!
omg this is wondeful! i've never seen any monitor review like this before. you are doing great!
Once again another amazing monitor review. I used your VG27AQ video to make my purchase of that monitor, and I agree the elmb sync isn't what it should be but besides that I'm really happy with it, I just continue to use my CRT when I want that motion clarity and black levels in certain games.
thank you sooo much for these in-depth reviews, especially checking out strobing. Instead of trying to get that right manufacturers just focus on marketing big HZ numbers because the average consumer has no fucking idea about sample-and-hold blur
There's actually more on the review page about strobe crosstalk that I didn't cover in this video. I had to cut it because this video is already too long.
excuse me sir,, i wanted to buy monitor for gaming which good for these days especially on 160-240hz budget..
ill be very gratefull if you want to give your though about it..
Bro this is legit one of the best reviews I've seen, so in depth.
Will you do a review for the VG259QM?
@@Cemito I want to! But I don't think I can find it for sale in the near future.
@@ApertureGrille hello. Best review i saw even too detailed. You have huge knowledge. I want buy this display or 25 inch version. Is hard to decide between bigger screen and better quality. How you can rate this 27 screen picture quality in 1080? Can you make some short video how to ser this monitor in games like CS or moba games? Is a bit confusing - should all this modes have to be turned on?
Sebastian E. Lech go for the 25 inch if you can find it as it’s not available in the US yet. Set it at 280hz with elmb sync on if you consistently get over 240fps (which you should in CS) or turn off elmb sync and set overdrive to 60 if you can not consistently maintain 240fps and higher
Best monitor review ever!!
I finally bought the smaller 25" version though. I'm very happy with it 😊
Thank you! The only negative I've heard about the 25" version of the AU Optronics panel is that it may be more prone to image retention. But response times should be similar. I'm still using mine, even over the VG27AQ, for games.
Keep pumping out reviews like this. You're gonna take off. Outstanding cintent. Thank you.
I think this is the best monitor review I've seen
Wow! Thank you!
Bro! You're knowledge of monitors and their brakedown is gnarly! You workin' for NASA or what?! Nice work!
The best and most through testing/review of a monitor I have seen to date on RUclips. Also loved your video on input lag!
Do you have plans to test the AOC 24G2?
It is a 144Hz 1080p IPS monitor which has recieved great response from other reviewers. I'm guessing it is going to be popular.
Also do you have a Patreon where you can be supported? Would love to see more tests at level of detail but I understand that getting products can be costly.
Thanks again, a5hun, for the great work.
this is the most cohesive monitor review I have ever seen. bless you. subbed.
So at first, that's the best monitor review I have ever seen. Keep it up and you will grow big
My question is more based on personal preferences.
But which monitors can you recommend for playing professional fps games? Probably 1920x1080p, 240hz+, ULMB/ELM etc.
I haven't reviewed enough to say for certain (and I'm definitely not great at FPS games), but I'm really interested to see how Zowie's DyAc modes perform on the new XL2546S and XL2746S. TN panels should have slightly cleaner strobing modes. But those are... just a bit too expensive for me to review.
I love this in-depth review! Thanks! :D
Thank you for this channel. Will you be testing some 240hz tn panels, like Benq XL2746/hp x25? Other 240hz ips like mag251rx? What about new 360hz?
I subscribed because your reviews are the best on Internet. I don't understand why you don't have much more subscribers.
Thank you! It's harder than I thought to get review samples, and all the new and interesting monitors are very expensive ($700+). I'm working on my next video now; although it won't be a monitor review, it'll cover LCD testing, and I think it'll clear up a lot of questions people have with response times.
You’re channel is amazing holy shit
This was an amazing review I'm surprised you don't have as many videos you are very talented.
Holy fuck this is detailed. Subbed as soon as I saw your intro!
Actually i'd love if you'd test the XL2546S. You do comprehensive tests beyond what i've seen any youtube monitor reviewer do and it really gives us the whole picture about a monitor (pun intended), and pretty much everything one would want to know.
It's impressive and you earned yourself a well deserved subscriber.
Hey amazing job! Could you test MSII MAG251RX?
What an amazing review of a monitor! I've frankly never seen a more in depth video review of a monitor before. I have tried out most of the new fast ips panels and I have to say, you should really do a review on the Acer Predator XB253Q GX. It and alongside it, the Acer Nitro XV253QX are by far the best gaming monitors in terms of input lag. I've never felt such snappiness before. Unfortunately the former only strobes at 120Hz but it is a proper MBR implementation! If your chasing that CRT goodness, I highly recommend you give it a shot!
Excellent video reviews. Level of detail is insane especially with self developed frog test. Your videos were very helpful confirming that my first monitor was trash (kg271u) and helped me to purchase my new one (the one on this review but the 25 inch one)
Whitch Overdrive mode i need to use when i have fps between 100 and 200 ?
With GSync on!
Thank you so much for this review! How exhaustive it must of been to do all this testing!
Потрясающий обзор! Надеюсь вам в скором времени попадут в руки на 360 и 480hz
Jesus Christ the best explained and most informative review on this monitor. Thank you so much for this 👍🏽
Btw would you prefer to get the 24.5’ model or stick with the 27’?? I’ve heard the sharpness is better but I have both and my blind eyes can’t tell the difference
Thanks! They use slightly different panels, and I've heard the 25" model is slightly more prone to temporary image retention, but they should both perform roughly the same. I'm not a big fan of small screens... the bigger, the better. But neither version will look amazing compared to a QHD screen.
The VG279QM is still my favorite 240+ Hz FHD screen, but for most people, and for me personally, I'd opt for a 27" QHD screen. The monitor I'm using right now is the Lenovo Y27q-20, which uses the same panel that's in LG's 27GL850, and it's a fantastic monitor.
Loved this video, you went to full lengths to give so much attention to detail for anyone interested in this, product like me. Thank you good sir
I usually do not comment on tech reviews since I am literally the GOD of tech. Been around this "display tech scene" for over 20 years. I seen every yt account on tech reviews that are seriously flawed and in no means a review. - yea some need to post it as its there only income and this that or other situation. People will rarely get to meet the guy who's got the patents or the scientific end of this or that let alone understand it. Your getting close to having the base understanding of Display tech. Perhaps give Zisworks a call if your interested in learning more. This is by far in no way new to me as I've own custom 285 hz LCD panels since 2010- yet big cheers to you for taking the time to set up video and produce and edit - Thanks brother. let the world know what a true in depth review should be about. Cheers to you again!
Amazing review, I hope you make more.
Really appreciate your in depth monitor reviews, especially the black frame insertion testing. Would love to see you review the Benq zowie Xl2746s and their low motion blur implementation.
Hey man,
Love the way you combine RT and overshoot into CAD. Never seen anyone else do that before, you really deserve more views for this kind of idea.
I have a point of suggestion/discussion: as I understand it, you have 3 sigma "band" in the pixel response graph within which the signal error doesn't count toward the CAD integration (it was mentioned in I think your first monitor review). What if you applied a much larger "band" to also account for over/undershoots not noticeable to the average user? Considering these monitors are used for gaming, I'd argue that even an overshoot of, say, 10% of dynamic range isn't going to bother most people. For example, in the Acer KG271U video, at 14:08, both graphs show small, but persistent steady state errors that pile up. I feel like errors like this are much less noticeable than a huge, short spike and so shouldn't really be "punished" equally.
Anyway, keep up the good work. Your level of depth is so much better than the "mainstream" stuff.
Sorry for the delayed reply! I'm super excited when anyone has questions about methodology! And I'm also jazzed that someone actually watched that LG review :)
I spent a lot of time fretting about how to construct the CAD measurement at first. 10% to 90% response time + an overshoot percent I think misses a ton of information about how an LCD behaves. Take a look at OD 80 for both 85 Hz and 144 Hz:
www.aperturegrille.com/reviews/ASUSVG279QM/Images/OD-Hz-Matrix.png
They have the same percentage overshoot, but the 85 Hz response in reality is way worse.
But you're right about small deviations. When I was first playing around with algorithms, I wanted to use variance, (x - mean)^2, to really penalize being far away from the ideal response, but I think the power 2 was too high, and I really don't know what power is ideal, so I just went with absolute deviation. And this might just be me trying to justify my own choice, but it's also fairly easy to explain to a moderately technically minded audience.
In the case of the KG271U at the timestamp you linked, that area below the stead-state low doesn't account for much of the total CAD, but it's still visible to the eye. To see an example, here's a strobing image from the VG279QM review:
www.aperturegrille.com/reviews/ASUSVG279QM/Images/Crosstalk-Frog-Mid.jpg
Check out the single pixel white line on the left-hand side. The strobe essentially freezes in time various parts of the LCD transition. The dim ghost images are capturing the long decay trail, kind of like on the KG271U response from earlier. Even very small deviations from the RGB 64 background are quite visible. I do concede that the second and third (and so on) ghost images do matter less, which was your point!
But I struggle with how much less, and I think whatever cut-off percentage I would use would mostly just be arbitrarily chosen. But I will consider some modification; CAD has really caused most of the internal strife I feel above everything else I do for the reviews!
A conversation I had on reddit may be of interest to you:
www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/f26fbr/aoc_24g2_review_the_best_1080p_144hz_monitor_you/fhdcydn/
@@ApertureGrille hey man, thanks for the detailed explanation! It definitely makes more sense now. There's no perfect algorithm but yours is definitely on the right path.
thank ypu so much fpr rebiewing this ive been trying to find people reviewing ur a god u got a like and a sub and notifications
Just found your channel, instantly subbed ^.^
Is the The ASUS VG279QM the best 27 inch 1080p ips 240hz+ monitor? Or is the gsync module Acer Predator XB273 Xbmiprzx or something else better?
My Acer KG271B broke out of nowhere, ended up getting a full refund in store credits and added €20 and upgraded to the 24.5'' version of this one. Gets here next week and I'm super excited, great review btw!
yes this in 1440p would be pretty cool
enjoyed your content you helped me pump the breaks on an impulse buy
Thanks for these interesting and detailed reviews. It's a bit too technical at times so I will have to watch the video again and your other videos to understand the information better.
I've been looking for a CRT like monitor for a long time. Seems like the ASUS VG279QM or the Viewsonic XG270 could be what i'm looking for but not sure. Since you say the ELMB sync isn't that great or useful I'm very interested to know about the XG270 motion blur option and if that monitor is worth it.
As of right now which IPS monitor do you think is the best for a game like Quake Live? Does Quake benefit from 280 hz and more or not really since the maxfps is 250 and 240 hz is enough?
the asus is better than the viewsonic, both work the same regarding elmb just called something differant. the elmb does work well at high refreshes.
asus is faster all around. would reccomend it
what a great review! please keep them coming.
This is the most comprehensive monitor review I've ever watched. Thank you! Do you think it'd be good to choose VG279QM over XG248Q for competitive gaming?
I'm really impressed with its response times, but you might be bothered by the low PPI. I wouldn't use it for desktop productivity (I have a QHD screen for that), but I don't mind the low PPI in games.
I bought the vg259qm which is the 25 inch variant. I live in singapore.
james madison where did you get yours ? Online or ?
@@hirzi1502 yup online from singapore
james madison how do you like it? Do you play comp games?
Hey nice video!
I've been wanting to ask you a couple questions since you uploaded this review, but I didn't really know how to put them so I dont sound too noobish lol but anyway:
1- First question is simple: If the input lag is high at a fixed 60 hz, why not use the monitor at a fixed 240 hz (since it's a multiple) with a console ? Is it not compatible?
2- I like your CADs technique to evaluate the perfomance of a monitor . I assume the way you see it is the less the CAD number the better since that's the way CRT's behave (instant very bright flash), but in a sample and hold way of displaying the image, is it the closest to zero the better? Wouldn't this cause a strong stroboscopic effect at low hz? Wouldn't it be better to have a reference (hypotethical perfect sample and hold response) CAD like for example a curve (or a triangle for simplicity) that converges to the end point within the frame window time or something like that idk?
Anyway keep up the great work!
Sorry the delayed reply!
I actually don't have any modern consoles (!), so I'm not familiar with how they behave when connected to high refresh displays. If they can do adaptive-sync at 240 or 280 Hz, that'd be much better for input lag. But what about something like a Switch?
You're correct about CAD: I accumulate the difference of the LCD transition compared to a "perfect" square wave transition: instantaneous OFF to ON (or vice versa), and so lower is "better." I put up an illustration here:
www.aperturegrille.com/about/Images/RT-About-New.png
But about that "better." I like your idea of using a linear response from low to high over the duration of the frame as the reference. At typical television framerates (24, 30), instantaneous transitions like OLED can look jarring from frame to frame, but low framerate content will never look great in motion. Even on slow VA televisions, 24 FPS content is both juddery and smeary. But the biggest problem I see is the average brightness level. Imagine a moving star field (or really just any moving white to black transition). If we used a linear ramp from black to white for each frame, the average brightness would be right in the middle: 50% gray, not white.
You can see what that looks like in my BenQ GW2760HS video where I show a star map (and Skyrim!) on a VA panel dimming:
ruclips.net/video/PvynyrES7IQ/видео.html
If you could take an OLED and "shape" its response to be linear rather than a square-wave wall, that type of dimming would also occur. Non-strobed displays will always have sample-and-hold blur, but we really do want their transitions to happen as fast as possible, so that's why I use a square wave as the reference.
Fantastic questions! I'm really excited when people ask about this sort of stuff! I wish I'd seen this sooner! Sorry!
After searching through the swamp I finally found the video I needed after literal 2-3 years of here and there searching for how to set up my monitor better. Finally a video explaining exactly what even the company couldn't explain to me. I see now why.... Lol. You are my hero.
do you mind sharing your setting ?
Exactly what i was looking for, excellent review!
Wow, this is the best review I have seen of the VG279QM! Good work.
Question : Does enabling EMLB Sync while in 280 hz mode negatively effect the input lag or grey to grey pixel response times?
Thank you!
I didn't test that specifically, but strobing modes generally have a small delay to wait for the pixels to change color before flashing the backlight, perhaps 2 ms. I didn't notice any lag when using ELMB-Sync, though.
As for pixel response times, ASUS locks the overdrive setting to 80 while in ELMB modes, so the performance is quite good at higher refresh rates, but the overshoot does become a problem as the framerate drops.
The biggest problem with ELMB-Sync is the Devil's Horns type double strobe. It really hurts visual clarity compared with traditional single-strobe modes.
@@ApertureGrille Okay thanks! I'll probably just leave the ELMB disabled then. Mine's coming from Amazon tomorrow!
@@BrentCox2B like it?
@@kolrid Love it! No complaints. Works great for Valorant which is mainly why I got it
Really good review! Although I do have a question, what is the best OSD setting. I see that you have put that on the website but I don't what you recommended some settings such as the contrast.
Here is what's on the website: "Calibrated in Racing Mode, Color Temp. was set at "User Mode" with Red: 100, Green: 100, and Blue: 100. Brightness at 40."
Much appreciated if you can reply! :D
Thank you! Other settings should be default. For instance, contrast can be kept at 80, VividPixel at 0, no blue light filter, etc. On most LCDs, changing the contrast setting just clips either the low end or the high end.
@@ApertureGrille O, and also, instead of buying the 27". i bought the 24.5," everything should be the same except the screen size?
@@dragon86271 RTINGS has a VG259QM review, and they've got slightly different settings from mine. They used the same Racing Mode and other defaults, but 97-100-95 for RGB. Without using a colorimeter yourself, it's hard to say if you'd be making your calibration slightly better or slightly worse using those. It's the same technology in the panel from AU Optronics, but there will definitely be small differences between units.
Please if you get the chance can you review this monitor's baby brother the VG259QM? Nevertheless, amazing in-depth review that many more tech RUclipsrs should adopt!
thanks for the review you made the choice for me I Will be getting the hp omen x it might be tn but its 240hz @ 1440p you earned a sub an actual in depth monitor review YES
TN isn't a bad thing as long as it's not dirt cheap TN (which is 6-bit+frc most of the time & a sad excuse for a monitor, but IPS has some of those as well, including at my work place, they look awful compared to my TN).
Thank's for this great review. Could you give me a tipp, what 27" 1440p monitor with 144hz(or more) monitor you could recommend? I had bad experience with Color change in an asus VA panel (curved), a bad backlight bleed with a 27" flat acer nitro and very weak colors by a tn panel 27" from HP.
I really would like to knos if there is a tn panel with great/good colors and the specs above :) anybody any idea?
Thx in advance
although expensive, my ASUS PG278QR is great. Do note that if you dislike fairly heavy coating ( *can* look grainy at times) this isn't for you. It's also a G-sync monitor that may not make sense for you to purchase (since you didn't mention your GPU).
This review is so underrated, better than most of the big sub RUclipsr out there.
What an awesome review! This is by far the greatest one I could find on this monitor if not for every other too. Thank you for your great work!
Thank you! This was one of my favorites. ELMB-Sync gives me a lot to talk about!
@@ApertureGrille Thanks to you, I understood for the first time what ELMB Sync really does :D I just ordered the VG279QM and am very excited to try it myself.
i found your channel thanks to blur buster forum and MAAAN! your reviews are the best!
I have a question for you... have you noticed high input lag at 75-100hz too? or just at 60hz?
Thank you! I just checked to make sure, but when using the control panel to set the VG279QM to 60 Hz or 85 Hz, the lag is really easy to feel. At 100 Hz, it's still noticeable, but it gets better from there on up.
But that only applies when using the control panel to limit the framerate while using DisplayPort. In normal adaptive-sync operation, input lag is minimal throughout the range. I haven't checked with HDMI, but that would only be a problem when using consoles that run at 60 Hz. For PC use, you should always let adaptive-sync displays run at their highest refresh rate.
@@ApertureGrille appreciate your quick reply, thank you :)
Amazing content. You are so underrated.
Can you please review the Legion Y25-25? It's 240HZ with IPS and pretty low priced compared to its competitors.
thank you very much for that detailed video!
Amazing review! I bought the VG259QM, cant calibrate it because i dont have the tools but messing a bit with the settings and its quite great! btw, which preset you use? racing? fps?
so underrated bro keep up the goodie goodie stuff .. Mad love
please give this man a medal for nice reviewer
i subs NOW
a5hun. The detail you've into is out of this world (even though I don't understand it all) I've got this monitor coming in about ten days and as I'm just your average console gaming jo I'm wondering what settings YOU would recommend for Xbox gaming on games like call of duty, battlefield, and FIFA 21. I've got the Xbox one X now but really got the monitor for the upcoming Xbox series X. Response time is what I'm after with the best possible picture. So if you could recommend what settings you think I should us I'd greatly appreciate it. And thank you.
I didn't even start watcing the review but I already loved it.
Holy crap this review is insane. Can you get the 25 inch version of this monitor and see if it holds up? Keep it up by the way great job!
Thanks! I don't have the 25" version, but there's a comment below by naezith where he called it amazing.
16:10 "I'm a CRT guy." elmb & elmb-sync
Excellent review. I know much more than the average joe about motion blur tech, but you outshined me 10 fold! :)
Thank you! Motion blur reduction is one of those things I wish more manufacturers and more reviewers paid attention to.
so should i be using the "normal" color temp setting for the color temp monitor settings? Also, how can I calibrate to see better in the dark scenes of, for example, anime? Is default just good enough? Is seems some scenes seem a bit on the darker side than I'd like... Another thing, how can I accurately and correctly calibrate the gamma as you've done in this video with those curves as opposed to what Asus defaults to as you showed?
Why have you not ever reviewed the Benq XL2546k?
2021. CRT motion clarity still not beaten. technological progress has taken a wrong turn somewhere.
Hah! Totally agree! LCDs will get faster, and perhaps with some type of scanning backlight, they can match or beat a CRT. The ViewSonic XG270, which was tuned by Blur Busters, gets close, but it's still not quite there.
@@ApertureGrille for srobe we need hi-end PC to keep constant fps to avoid crosstalk(( i can't play videogames since 2014 when I sold my last CRT T__T
what do u think abt modern 240hz TNs?
I am about to buy this one since the price is okay where I live. Do you think 240 hz plus 80 overdrive gsynch + elmb with no input lag should be the best option or I should switch some options off?
So question... What about the BenQ XL2546S? the 0.5ms one?
Im dying to know whether if i should go with the VG259QM, or the 2546S..
Someone did a pursuit camera test with both next to each other, the BenQ was better with dyac+.
@@ExposedChannel247 true true, unfortunately I'll have to wait till September to see what BenQ releases..
I'm confused basicly your saying if I don't have the hardware to play a game at 240hz I should avoid this?? Cause there's no way my gtx 1070 will hit them numbers.. was planning on hooking a PS4 to it as well should I get the older vg279q then? Or what would u recommend I want at least 27inches and 1080p
The VG279QM is actually really good throughout the entire adaptive-sync range, so you don't need to play at 200+ FPS to get good response times. I only have a 1070 Ti, so for that RAGE 2 footage, I had to drop the rendering resolution to get those high framerates. But the game feels amazing, and I'm now personally sold on 240+ Hz.
I'd be worried about hooking this up to a console, though, with the high 60 Hz input lag. I haven't reviewed the VG279Q, but RTINGS seemed to like it.
My God what a absolute brilliant Video... Thanks
I am between the Zowie xl2546K and this monitor. I play mainly FPS games. Need an honest advice to which i should buy. I found two offers being the zowie ( 300) more expensive than the Asus (200).
hey there! thanks to your great and in-depth review i decided to buy this monitor for myself and im really happy with it! so thank you! i do have a question though: what is the game you are playing on the b-roll? is it just a tech-demo / benchmark or something? would greatly appreciate an answer :)
Rage 2! Not a lot of love going around for the game, but I love the movement and combat!
@@ApertureGrille oh really?! i think i got that as a gift once. im defo gonna try it out now :D
Should you even use ELMB when you're rocking 240hz+ with such fast response times?
I'm considering getting the 25" version of this monitor. I just ordered the zowie XL2546S, but i don't see any reason to use a TN panel anymore when there is seemingly practically no difference anymore in response times. This seems to have almost all advantages that you want for competitive gaming as well as having sweet advantages of IPS.
Best review I’ve found for this monitor by a long shot
Thank you! Despite ELMB-Sync not working as it should, this is still a really great monitor. And I especially appreciate the 280 Hz top end for Quake Live.
@@ApertureGrille it’s a very good monitor. However as very disappointed when I learned you can’t use adaptive sync when you overclock the monitor tho so I can’t use that feature when playing games where you can’t hold 280 frames. Have to use its native 240hz.
@@JJ-fm2yj VRR works throughout the full range, even up to 280 Hz. Have you tried the monitor yourself?
@@ApertureGrille yes. I’ve had this monitor for almost a year. However when I overclock it to 280hz, it locks the refresh rate at 280, even tho the VRR is on (adaptive sync). Soon as I disable the overclock, (back to 240) the adaptive sync works again.
Seems to be an issues with AMD GPU’s
I got this monitor the other day, and must say I am very disappointed in the screen display. However the hz is it’s only good thing 😢
Hi, like your work on this monitor. I´d like to ask if you would prefer Dell AW2720HF over ASUS VG279QM. Thanks.
Crazy how few people do LEGIT monitor reviews and youtube isn't bumping you up for them. Instead it's guys who's reviews consist of "looks good to my eyes"
fantastic explanation , Learnt a lot !!!
Great detailed review!! One question: so when playing games like cs:go at 280 fps+ would you recommend turning on ulmb and gsync, as it has good performance at those constant framerates if I understood correctly?
If you're getting more than 280 FPS, you might not need to worry about ELMB or ELMB-Sync. At especially high framerates, just turn overdrive to 80, and you should be fine. Quake Live, as I was showing in the video, is capped at 250 FPS, so I need to use adaptive-sync to minimize input lag, but I'd typically prefer to run some sort of strobing mode. Once you get yours in, let us know which you prefer. When I do these videos, I'm never quite sure what to recommend, because I'm a super picky CRT user :)
Awesome review, very detailed! thanks!
if i disable gsync and let the refresh rate at 280hz i should get no Problems with ELMB on, right ?
great video. i see that you are playing quake there, what do you suggest is the best settings for quake?
You should do an in depth review of the 25 inch variant. The vg259qm!
I'd love to! But I don't think I can find one now.