Vegeta's Forced Spirit Fission Explained

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
  • Vegeta learned Forced Spirit Fission from the Yardrats in the Dragon Ball Super Manga Chapter and on today's Geekdom101 Technique Guide, we discuss Vegeta vs Moro and Forced Spirit Fission, Spirit Power, How it works, and much more.
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Комментарии • 478

  • @jd55513
    @jd55513 2 года назад +95

    Excellent techniques guide Geekdom! 👍
    A few things pointed out in the video:
    Vegeta DOES specify that he can undo certain fusion, namely Namekian fusion due to it being voluntary combining of a person lifeforce (Genki)
    Potara and Fusion dance, because they create a entirely seperate being, that power would technically be there's and SHOULDN'T qualify (but it might be still possible in theory)
    As for your other examples.
    The Buu one was great,
    However with Cell, remember, Cells body and design allows him to "remember" the power of each iteration to Perfect, and thus even after seperating, Cell would still be "Perfect"
    As for Granolah.
    Many people should realize that the wish power that Granolah has, IS his power over a set amount of time, but amplified in reference to said strongest (So it's his power and can't be taken).
    Overall, GREAT video!

    • @Peetr0s
      @Peetr0s 2 года назад +4

      Potara and Fusion dance should qualify for spirit fission, because to separate something you need to be able to identify them in the mixture therefore since fusions do separate there is no reason for spirit fission not to be able to do that.
      Also for Cell that is not entirely correct after Gohan punched or kicked 18 out of cell he remained in his imperfect form until he was vaporized and only his core cells survived, meaning that we can assume that he needs to be reduced to cells for them to "remember" and reconstitute his perfect form. This way if after using spirit fission vegeta is strong enough to destroy every Cell's cells than he wouldn't have the change to reconstitute his perfect form.

    • @Thecor13
      @Thecor13 2 года назад +2

      I agree with everything you said save for one thing provided with a reference. Potara and fusion can be undone with FSF and the reference is referring to moro 73 taking vegetas power. Directly stated afterwards vegeta pointed out that fusion would be useless against him for he can use FSF to separate fusions and absorptions.

    • @jd55513
      @jd55513 2 года назад +5

      @@Thecor13 Ah! I remember that was said by Piccolo!
      Yeah, so Fusion dance and Potara would be affected by FSF!
      Good catch man

    • @blackheart4360
      @blackheart4360 2 года назад +3

      Don't forget vegeta made goku a giant clone to defeat moro.

    • @Thecor13
      @Thecor13 2 года назад +1

      @@jd55513 thanks 😊 very well put analysis as well.

  • @abraarquraishi1681
    @abraarquraishi1681 2 года назад +262

    I think it would be amazing to combine this with ultra ego. With ultra ego, the more you fight, the stronger you get, and with forced spirit fission, you could potentially to heal/strengthen yourself with the energy you take,

    • @curthax99
      @curthax99 2 года назад +19

      That sounds AMAZING 🤩

    • @RustyShackleford76
      @RustyShackleford76 2 года назад +52

      You just made Vegeta the most dangerous character in dragon ball!

    • @jd55513
      @jd55513 2 года назад +29

      That doesn't reflect nor fit Vegetas character. The FSF technique, is a last resort against enemies who are dangerous or strong by means of cheap tricks or powers, not inherently their own.
      Fusion, Absorption and magic, all fall into that.
      Vegeta would only use it in those cases, and would NEVER use FSF to enhance himself, because all he wants is a "fair fight". Why would he use it to make himself stronger? Because it would not be his own strength!

    • @kawaiizombiegal
      @kawaiizombiegal 2 года назад +26

      @@jd55513 your probably misreading the comment, with FSF he can heal himself, with u ego he gest stronger from damage and the more he fights, if he heals himself with fsf energy then with ego he can get stronger and fight longer.

    • @kingjaven13
      @kingjaven13 2 года назад +14

      @@jd55513 never say what vegeta won't do!!! Remember he said he'll never used instant transmission, but he did, even though it once trust me if vegeta and goku was really get that ass beat. He's using that move .

  • @Far2Sega4U
    @Far2Sega4U 2 года назад +73

    One thing that always comes to mind when thinking of Spirit Fission is how broken this ability is gonna be in future Dragon Ball games

    • @MrDeykar
      @MrDeykar 2 года назад +4

      Not sure how they would even implement it in a game. Based on how the technique works, it does nothing to characters which use their own power.

    • @Alrokako
      @Alrokako 2 года назад +1

      I hope I get play against you and use it 😂😭😭 rage quitting is the funniest shit ever

    • @Far2Sega4U
      @Far2Sega4U 2 года назад +1

      @@MrDeykar I was thinking every time Vegeta makes contact with you he steals some of your energy. Either or he has some moves based on absorbing and maybe even giving energy to other fighters if you're in a team

    • @Far2Sega4U
      @Far2Sega4U 2 года назад

      @@Alrokako Sure 😂😂🤣

  • @GeneralGlockasiah
    @GeneralGlockasiah 2 года назад +29

    It's great that Vegeta has become a versatile fighter now. His new abilities suit him well.

  • @georgecheng9771
    @georgecheng9771 2 года назад +113

    Another thing about forced spirit fission is that it kinda reflects Vegeta's fighting nature properly. He always prefers to fight alone and really not a big fan of fusion or team efforts (although sometimes he has to fuse lol). So basically he using forced spirit fission is to tell his opponets to fight with their own strength (like himself) and do not cheat in fighting!

    • @maganhassan2627
      @maganhassan2627 2 года назад +1

      don't know if teamwork like fusion is cheating lol

    • @georgecheng9771
      @georgecheng9771 2 года назад +13

      @@maganhassan2627 I think it is mostly referring to some villians like Moro or Buu that fight people by absorbing other's power and energy instead of fighting solely on their original power.

    • @elimDBZ
      @elimDBZ 2 года назад +5

      Exactly! In DBZA Vegeta said to Semi perfect that cell needed to actually train instead of gorging on an inferior species. Let's not forget that cell only felt confident to fight piccolo until after cell ate enough people. This applies to the canon DBZ and TFS DBZ.

    • @meowrendy5145
      @meowrendy5145 2 года назад +4

      With spirit control naruto, ichigo asta, deku, itadori and luffy power just useless.them will separate with them power

    • @nworder4life
      @nworder4life 2 года назад +3

      @@maganhassan2627 I remember Chris ayers Golden Freeza in the broly movie "wha....NOT FAIR!"

  • @specialnewb9821
    @specialnewb9821 2 года назад +118

    I just hope they don't forget about it. I see it as an incredibly versatile technique that can lead Vegeta into mastering big big hax.
    -A second of precognition via reading enemy ki flow
    -Increase enemy stamina drain/steal stamina
    -alter enemy ki flows (so their strikes miss outright or hit inefficiently)
    -tear apart ki constructs like energy spheres
    Goku too dumb to use these, lmao. Also I think Spirit Control will have permanent effects on Vegeta's growth. With his spirit now becoming more stable he probably has a much easier time increasing his ki through training or perhaps even picking up new techniques faster. It may explain how he was able to understand Ultra Ego much faster than Goku did Ultra Instinct.

    • @nworder4life
      @nworder4life 2 года назад +20

      Toyotaro won't forget, he's young.

    • @ultrainstinctedits
      @ultrainstinctedits 2 года назад +6

      He'll never forget. It just isn't Vegeta's style. If Vegeta kept using Forced Spirit Fission, that would just make every fight easy and boring and you know that Saiyans love a good fight.

    • @beerusplanet3552
      @beerusplanet3552 2 года назад +2

      @Captain Zorc They didn't forget about it. Vegeta even mentioned it, when Granolah used a clone.
      But against a "normal" Granolah, it wouldn't work.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 2 года назад

      @Ultimate L Just a joke bruh. I know Goku's not actually abridged level dumb. The only thing he probably can't do is ultra ego. This stuff is just not his style.

    • @blackheart4360
      @blackheart4360 2 года назад +1

      Dont forget he made goku a giant clone to defeat moro

  • @MonkeMan2.0
    @MonkeMan2.0 2 года назад +59

    The whole thing with Vegeta going to yardrat was interesting, I like that he decided to go there to learn more about their techniques, it was cool expansion to planet yardrat, I hope we have some expansions of other things that we haven’t known about.

    • @cameronstewart6662
      @cameronstewart6662 2 года назад +1

      Yeah it was cool I just wish he actually uses those techniques in the future instead of going down the same path to power

    • @RACH90810
      @RACH90810 2 года назад +1

      @@cameronstewart6662 he already showed interest in Ultra Instinct. Time to widen his scope. He might train to tenshinhan, yamcha, master roshi, and piccolo. He still catching up to goku.

    • @Thecor13
      @Thecor13 2 года назад

      @@RACH90810 he's catching up to goku in spirit but in terms of power he is stronger than goku this arc narratively and in chapter.

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 2 года назад +296

    I’m worried Toriyama and Toyotaro have already forgotten about it, or for whatever reason, we won’t see Vegeta use this awesome technique ever again. 😔

    • @dmob39
      @dmob39 2 года назад +78

      They haven't. Vegeta said at the beginning of the Granolah fights that his clones won't work on him

    • @meowrendy5145
      @meowrendy5145 2 года назад +25

      Dude did you really see manga.

    • @TxCoby
      @TxCoby 2 года назад +19

      Read manga

    • @KavinCatastrophe
      @KavinCatastrophe 2 года назад +8

      It so Not Vegeta Style. They should have given it to Piccolo.

    • @blackheart4360
      @blackheart4360 2 года назад +6

      How do you think he kept up with granola. He also turned goku giant to beat moro. Cause it says in the manga that yardrats know how to do that.

  • @yokingstream1005
    @yokingstream1005 2 года назад +12

    This the type of ability that Vegeta would use as a last resort in the future because he doesn’t like using “cheap” methods in a fight

  • @yashaoftheflames8475
    @yashaoftheflames8475 2 года назад +15

    Spirit control can lead characters to create so many new techniques.

  • @GraceofGod247
    @GraceofGod247 2 года назад +6

    I've reread the Moro Saga and man it really is a good Saga for DragonBall Super

  • @joshuat770
    @joshuat770 2 года назад +13

    Vegeta was scary during his very first fight with Goku, especially during and after his transformation.

  • @roxtechs
    @roxtechs 2 года назад +18

    I really hope when the Moro arc gets adapted this technique looks more unique rather than looking similar to the spirit Bomb

    • @j04370859
      @j04370859 2 года назад

      It's gonna look like the manga.

    • @jkjordon1
      @jkjordon1 Год назад

      Just for a visual flare, when vegeta uses spirit control the aura effect looks different than the usual ki aura.

  • @ACE-777.
    @ACE-777. Год назад +5

    This definitely closes the gap between Vegeta and alot of people.
    This power is a big reason Silver Surfer wins almost every VS battle, cause he knows how to absorb all your energy.

  • @henkaistudio
    @henkaistudio 2 года назад +29

    This move that Vegeta did against Moro is amazing!!!!

  • @joshualowe959
    @joshualowe959 2 года назад +3

    Vegeta is now more deadlier than ever with both the Forced Spirit Fission technique & the new Ultra Ego Transformation

  • @shadowdragonlord2295
    @shadowdragonlord2295 2 года назад +11

    Honestly the first time I saw Vegeta use it and explained it my mind immediately went to a Death Battle scenario and how effective it would be against someone like Superman or Shazam.
    Both characters' powers come from outside sources.
    Well at least until they're retcon.

    • @mohitnair2541
      @mohitnair2541 Год назад

      Forced Spirit Fission requires you to actually hit your opponent to take their power away. Both Superman and Shazam are way faster than Vegeta

    • @Stan-ce4oz
      @Stan-ce4oz Год назад +1

      ​@@mohitnair2541 Dafuq? vegeta is far faster than black adam and with ultra ego his on par with superman

  • @matthewstanley2627
    @matthewstanley2627 2 года назад +43

    I hope vegeta find new ways of developing this technique! It seems to have potential, other then being able to separate anything that came together through fusion or absorption. Thanks for the video.

    • @hoshiryu
      @hoshiryu 2 года назад +9

      He could literally do the Spirit Bomb thanks to this ..... afterall he technically did it and gave Goku a Boost in Power so he could stop Moro

    • @blackheart4360
      @blackheart4360 2 года назад

      @@hoshiryu he Also made goku a giant clone

    • @antariellyons
      @antariellyons Год назад

      @@blackheart4360 Pretty sure Goku did that himself, Vegeta just gave him the energy to do so.

    • @blackheart4360
      @blackheart4360 Год назад

      @@antariellyons yeah that post was before granola arc finished so technically that theory was blown away thanks to the magically power of goku's plot armor again.

    • @antariellyons
      @antariellyons Год назад

      @@blackheart4360 Vegeta surviving a time 4 Kamehameha in the Saiyan saga is plot armor. Goku utilizing a technique he used before is not.

  • @nixx7912
    @nixx7912 2 года назад +10

    I want to see Forced Spirit Fission have a huge drawback in regards to Fusion.
    Like if the fusion doesn’t remain calm and in control they can’t sustain it or they bleed out energy.
    Give some growth to that as opposed to just a “I’m stronger” button.

  • @jrdb04
    @jrdb04 2 года назад +6

    Haven’t kept up with super since the Moro
    Arc started been getting back to it and was wondering what this ability wise much thanks geekdom for breaking it down love ur detailed answer and how u take the time to explain the background information

  • @tobygarton9494
    @tobygarton9494 2 года назад +1

    This needs 1 million views. Nobody explains Dragon Ball like Geekdom 101.

  • @selfreliantpatriot1776
    @selfreliantpatriot1776 2 года назад +46

    Vegeta says he can split fusions apart. He mentions it to Piccolo that he can split the Namekians that Piccolo fused with in manga volume 14 page 26.

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  2 года назад +5

      you know i said that right?

    • @selfreliantpatriot1776
      @selfreliantpatriot1776 2 года назад +12

      I was only geeking out right after just reading the manga that Vegeta mentions to Piccolo that he CAN split the Namekians that he fused with. You said they didn't specify that if he can. But I get a New Yorker snarky reply from someone I was enjoying to listen to. You know that right? Atleast the 8 people enjoyed the info I loved to share with.

    • @lancetheking7524
      @lancetheking7524 2 года назад +3

      We can get back Nail and Kami... hmmmm

    • @corey5712
      @corey5712 Год назад

      @@Geekdom101 well my bad 😂

  • @Shaprite
    @Shaprite 2 года назад +6

    I thought about the technique myself and I thought of a way Vegeta could use Forced Spirit Fission as a killing move. Such as using it to deplete all of Villian's energy with one blow or cause them to self-destruct in a way using their own energy. Thought, those are just the thoughts I had that could be used.

  • @Action-Punk
    @Action-Punk 2 года назад +6

    I wonder if we see more learn more unique techniques that could really pop on screen if animated

  • @majinsole8554
    @majinsole8554 2 года назад +8

    Techniques and how to wield them will always make a fighter at any level many times more dangerous.
    Really love this addition.
    ~_~

  • @thelastuchiha7713
    @thelastuchiha7713 2 года назад +4

    this help his ultra ego because if he gets beaten but heal then gets stronger (basically zenkai) he would keep up a lot more

  • @Koi_Swirl
    @Koi_Swirl 2 года назад +2

    Always down for more videos on Vegeta, Gohan, and Piccolo. Good content Geekdom.

  • @wowf0rl1f3
    @wowf0rl1f3 2 года назад +2

    Yardrats are the support class from any MMO lol. Oh you wanna be a ranged DPS Freeza race, wanna be a tank, Saiyan or namekian, wanna be a mixed dos (ranged+melee) Saiyan, wanna be a healer and crowd control yardrats or dragon clan namekian. Like yardrats can intimidate, steal power, confuse with copies, teleport, and heal. If Goku or Vegeta could take piccolo there to train piccolo might become the most well rounded member of the Z fighters. He could decimate fodder and when the Saiyan's switch up he can heal the ones not fighting to basically have an endless loop of fighters getting stronger each time they come out to fight, and he could hold senzu beans on severely wounded or when he runs out of stamina

  • @kingn0ah377
    @kingn0ah377 2 года назад +1

    Was waiting for this video, thanks geekdom

  • @Mojaveknight17
    @Mojaveknight17 2 года назад +3

    Exellent content from the Man!

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 2 года назад +3

    Love this video Geekdom.

    • @zakuguriin4521
      @zakuguriin4521 2 года назад +2

      Leave a like on the video my dude. Help this video get recommended to more people.

  • @Justin-fk6br
    @Justin-fk6br 2 года назад +1

    I think you have the best anime intro out there.

  • @darkmasterv4928
    @darkmasterv4928 2 года назад +4

    It’s more deadly and fearing if Vegeta punch destruction energy in someone and haikai them from the inside. So far all the haikai we seen are dealt outside of the object or mistarget (Toppo). Seriously Vegeta can make anyone feel fear like android 19

  • @DDOMINICK
    @DDOMINICK 2 года назад +1

    Seeing Vegeta meditate is so worth it. But now he a big oh destroyer who doesn’t need that

  • @kyloots5625
    @kyloots5625 2 года назад +3

    It would be awesome to see an evil yardrat as a big bad in a future arc. 👍

  • @DijiOverdrive
    @DijiOverdrive 2 года назад +3

    Just when I was wondering how this technique works.

  • @CAL08
    @CAL08 2 года назад +1

    Best technique guide you have ever done Danny

  • @THEBLUEGLOVE
    @THEBLUEGLOVE 2 года назад

    I hope this comes back and is not forgotten about

  • @anthonymartinez9847
    @anthonymartinez9847 2 года назад +1

    Keep the vegeta content coming. He's the best character in dbz. Let's argue. Lol but really vegeta has developed sooooo much and is one of the characters with the MOST techniques. Great video bro🙏 i hope they dont forget all the shit vegeta can do now in the future

  • @carloseaton
    @carloseaton 2 года назад +2

    We need tien shinhan’s kikoho especially the one he used against cell

  • @jessiejoy1703
    @jessiejoy1703 2 года назад +3

    What they’ve been doing with vegeta is badass. I really hope they keep upgrading him in unique ways opposite of gokus powers

  • @snoopanoop7705
    @snoopanoop7705 2 года назад +1

    I can't wait for someday when Goku and Vegeta spar just for fun but go all out someday in the future. That would be more excited to me more than a real boxing or UFC fight 😅😂

  • @RigalicReign
    @RigalicReign 2 года назад +2

    I think the main reason Vegeta was able to master both the instant transmission and the force Spirit fission is because of his time spent fuse with Goku at least as far as the transmission is concerned because when they were fused they've used it multiple times and I imagine at some level it leaves an imprint of the other person's techniques in your mind, likewise you could make a similar argument for the fact that Goku knows the Spirit bomb and that through fusion Vegeta would have intimate knowledge of how to at least subconsciously control Life energy. It also helps that between post Frieza saga Goku and super Vegeta they have reached an entirely different level of power scaling and basically have two separate pools of ki to draw from at this point.
    Basically all I'm saying is in that last one is that if Goku wanted to go back and relearn from the yardratians forced Spirit fission and they found a way to explain it to him in more simpler ways or better yet possibly just show it to him in a direct manner where he could study it... all I'm saying is he could probably learn it now. But I do prefer the yin and yang example

  • @SB-xj8xj
    @SB-xj8xj 2 года назад +13

    I also think that his training with Whis was what aided in him mastering Spirit Control as quickly as he did. I imagine without his understanding of God Ki, it would have been much harder for Vegeta to master it.
    Another thing to remember is that Goku was a SSJ when learning SC. It's possible that he needed to learn this to rebalance his inner being after Frieza killed Krillin. I also think that it's what allowed him to better control the SSJ power without giving in to anger.

    • @SmokingzMagiczTreez
      @SmokingzMagiczTreez 2 года назад +1

      What you think is hilarious, i dispute this bs. God Ki ain no Genki which is what Vegeta uses w FSF! Even the Elder Yardratian states: Vegeta is a prodigy in that sense, one born of hard work". This has nothing to do with God Ki since they actually took the liberty to explain the difference between the 2. Just accept the fact that Goku also fails and cant learn everything, sounds like u feel the need to defend and explain Goku, the same guy who admitted last chapter that Instant Transmission is a Beginner Level Technique from the Yardratians and it took him months to learn it while Vegeta learns a Advanced Technique in 2 months and IT in literally minutes. If this had anything to do w God Ki then Goku or Whis would tell but clearly they do not!

  • @blackheart4360
    @blackheart4360 2 года назад +5

    It is said In moro arc that yardrats can turn themselves giant also. It was vegeta's technique that turned goku giant to beat moro. Also vegeta used fsp to fight granola at first(before ue). Every hit he took or gave. Granola got weaker. Vegeta just didn't absorb the ki like moro cause of his saiyan nature. It just kills me haven't seen this theory anywhere. 😔

    • @memesgeek4797
      @memesgeek4797 2 года назад

      I don't think that happened. It would have been explained or shown.

    • @blackheart4360
      @blackheart4360 2 года назад

      @@memesgeek4797 it was. Go read my 16 examples. It's somewhere in the comments

    • @memesgeek4797
      @memesgeek4797 2 года назад

      @@blackheart4360 I still don't think it happened. That's not how db works

    • @blackheart4360
      @blackheart4360 2 года назад

      @@memesgeek4797 I waited so long to reply and see you didn't agree with me cause my "theory" wrong. Just goku plot armor will always get in the way. always goku. One day though l will send you my 16 reasons why. But again I believe it goku too. It just story never mentioned goku knowing a techniques like that. It showed Vegeta at the start of yardrat seeing simular techniques. I wish we get an anime to confirm this.

  • @barryslayer5582
    @barryslayer5582 2 года назад +2

    Imagine if the climax of Granolah arc will be a fight between og73 fused with 1 of the two heeters vs Granolah full Power and UE Vegeta with forced Spirit fission

  • @TheRabbitRonin
    @TheRabbitRonin 2 года назад +1

    If I don't get the chance. I want to say I hope everyone's 2022 is a good and better year than the last two years!

  • @savagehiro1720
    @savagehiro1720 2 года назад +2

    Geekdom Gang x ultimate power 💪🏾

  • @RustyShackleford76
    @RustyShackleford76 2 года назад +2

    I would love to have an arc where the main villain is a very powerful Yardrat

  • @raymondmoreno7961
    @raymondmoreno7961 2 года назад

    Love your videos every time a video comes on always the person push the like button and start the video so excited every time.

  • @devilsmaycry9877
    @devilsmaycry9877 2 года назад +1

    I wonder how things would go if Goku and vegeta went all out against each other

  • @LygarZeroX
    @LygarZeroX 4 месяца назад +1

    imagine if he had this before. he could have ended buu or even cell by separating the stolen energy. if they had a fusion version, they could fuse without potara or a dance. this has so many applications.

  • @zpearson59
    @zpearson59 2 года назад +1

    The thing is you don't even hear about this technique anymore but in reality this combined with ultra ego should be overpowering

  • @gerharddamm5933
    @gerharddamm5933 2 года назад +6

    Such an OP ability, too bad he immediately forgot how to do it right after the Moro arc

    • @beerusplanet3552
      @beerusplanet3552 2 года назад +8

      Well, there was no opponent where he could use it after. Even though Granolah kinda cheated, it's still his own power. Moro absorbed the energy from countless beings in the universe, which is why Forced Spirit Fission could be used there.

    • @supesisfodder7427
      @supesisfodder7427 Год назад

      @@beerusplanet3552nope doesn’t work like that
      Vegeta took energy from the z fighters

  • @lordfrieza9909
    @lordfrieza9909 2 года назад +2

    The strongest in dragon ball moro please it would be a great video also
    How about god toppo full power vs. Merged zamasu full power👌🏽.

  • @saulviz3640
    @saulviz3640 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video, hope you do majin buu's change beam 1 day

  • @menacingpotatoleaf
    @menacingpotatoleaf 2 года назад

    I knew quite abit about this move but never knew the indepth of it. Thanks for giving me some more knowledge on this magical world of dragon ball.

  • @imethdup5050
    @imethdup5050 2 года назад +2

    Ya know who loves illegal contests, geekdom101 does!

  • @platinumcontent9
    @platinumcontent9 2 года назад +1

    AKA "Sage Mode" Training

  • @Coolgamer..
    @Coolgamer.. 2 года назад +1

    Force spirit fission pretty good move.

  • @elite7205
    @elite7205 2 года назад +1

    Good stuff

  • @princevegeta9149
    @princevegeta9149 2 года назад +1

    The prince of all saiyans Vegeta!!

  • @mithosirving
    @mithosirving 2 года назад +1

    FSF can also defuse Namekian fusion. now canonically we don't know if dragon balls can reverse it, but my money would be on no, as the dragon balls have huge ties to the Namekians, but the super dragon balls probably can. but even if the regular ones could that's still awesome that FSF can do that

  • @Skullymp
    @Skullymp 2 года назад +1

    Really hope to see the anime adaptation of the moro and granola arcs

  • @dashavati
    @dashavati Год назад

    I think name's might be the race with the most techniques. If you include cloning and clothes beams and all the dragon creating/editing unlocking potential you know the non combat abilities.

  • @JSPHTRS
    @JSPHTRS 2 года назад

    Awesome- This ones definitely needs clarification !

  • @Happyhaunt92
    @Happyhaunt92 2 года назад

    Thanks for posting this, man! Great technique explanation!

  • @seandavis6094
    @seandavis6094 2 года назад

    “Goku and Vegeta would have never had to go inside of him” Hahahahaha I’m dying bro 💀 💀 💀

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo4397 2 года назад +1

    Vegeta: I've spent all this time training for the perfect counter to Moro's ability! I'll finally reclaim both the spotlight & my pride by finally defeating a villain!
    Moro: Okay, but now I just vored a guy and now immune to your ability & even stronger

  • @davisking100
    @davisking100 2 года назад +1

    Final episode of the series is definitely going to be vegeta vs goku

    • @krishrama
      @krishrama 2 года назад +1

      that would be kinda epic. an all out death battle. on some abandoned planet.
      to finally settle the damn score who is the true super elite of saiyans.
      like in the ancient forgotten dragonball ONLINE game...
      but i dont think it will ever happen in dbs or ever. lolz. :(

  • @terryrapoza5136
    @terryrapoza5136 2 года назад +1

    Do the tri beam next

  • @Danosauruscrecks
    @Danosauruscrecks 2 года назад +2

    I'm willing to wager we might never see this technique again.
    I really wish we would tho

  • @el_felkx8822
    @el_felkx8822 2 года назад +1

    5:24 didn't Vegeta literally look at piccolo and say something along the lines of, "I could even separate you from the Namekians you absorbed"

  • @daelenevans2934
    @daelenevans2934 День назад

    I had to go back to this video and when you think about it The Yardrats and Namekians are the Yoda’s of Dragon Ball😎👍🏽💯 Also R.I.P. James Earl Jones😞🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯 It would be insane if Vegeta made the force spirit fision fusion with the Ultra Ego form😎💯

  • @blackheart4360
    @blackheart4360 2 года назад +2

    They show it in every fight. Why you think he was sorta winning at first against granola. Cause with every hit he took or gave. Granola got weaker. Also it was his techniques that made goku grow giant against moro

  • @casual_caol
    @casual_caol 2 года назад +1

    In theory I don’t thinking it would work on Buu since he was actually absorbing the people not fusing with them and if we look at how complex his absorption was inside Buu’s body its kinda hard to see forced spirit fission working on him, correct me if I am mistaken

    • @c4nchi
      @c4nchi 2 года назад

      It's the same concept, basically if the power you have depends from other people, Vegeta can split it apart.

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 2 года назад +1

    5:31 I’d sure like to split Kefla lol

  • @sauravdeyhere
    @sauravdeyhere 2 года назад +8

    We haven't seen this technique that much since Moro arc. I'm afraid this technique can also be forgotten by toriyama or toyotaro easily if there's no need of it. Even though they could've used it in multiple other occasions during granolah arc too. I feel like it is going to be like Kaioken, when they forgot about it for a long time then brought it back in the TOP arc in super. Let's hope they bring back forced spirit fision as an original Vegeta technique again in this or future arc. 🤞

    • @j04370859
      @j04370859 2 года назад +2

      Kaioken wasn't forgotten about, it was just not needed, because Goku had higher forms, it was Toei that brought it back.

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 2 года назад +2

    Cool

  • @paulsmith5684
    @paulsmith5684 2 года назад

    I would say if this does not surpass Goku know the other Z Fighters I do not know what does. He has always wished to surprise Goku and everyone else finally with this technique he finally does it. Cannot wait to see it in the anime version my God what a technique I will be so graciously and happy to see play out.

  • @blakesmith4187
    @blakesmith4187 2 года назад +2

    So Goku knew about forced spirit fission as he stated in the manga. So that means he knew of the technique way back in the android saga. I know this technique wasn't even a thought back then but looking back, do you think Goku would regret not learning the move seeing as his next opponents were ones that utilize absorbing people and ki manipulation? cell and buu both absorbed people and their threat would immediately go away with forced spirit fission. And babidi places the curse on people and I feel like forced spirit fission would be able to separate that dark ki from the host

  • @blackheart4360
    @blackheart4360 2 года назад +1

    this was a comment I sent to someone else so don't take anything offensive to heart if there is anything. 1: yardrats were introduced by using cloning, changing shape, gaintification, and other things. 2: all these things were based around spirit manipulation. 3: vegeta Is a saiyan like goku. Your saying he can't learn something after seeing it once after learning techniques that use the same principles of ki manipulation like how fast he learned instant transmission. 4: he was able to bring people whose bodies were probably decomposed back from the dead using the ki manipulation......5: also undid a dragon youth wish.... 6: I'm not saying he didn't give goku control and that it wasn't goku ki. I'm just saying goku needing to bust that crystal and he was locked in moro hands.... vegeta got that ki and used it to do more than just bring up goku ki. 7: no mention of goku knowing that technique and 8: your probably right and it's just basically copied susano and a Naruto fan boy dream. 9: Also it's dragon ball. Goku time. Goku is goku. And it's the same thing like always. 10: Vegeta or goku could have learned it off panel like always with goku and when we never learnen how or when he learned or achieved something. Examples: spirt bomb, kaioken, ssj2, ssj3, ssg for vegeta, final flash, fusion dance, instant transmission, flight for goku 🤣 , and etc. Damn there alot more than I thought 😆 See my point and 99% they use it once. Don't even explain it or how they learned how. They just did. 11: this time though we saw almost same looking abilities used to defeat moro on yardrat. 12: why so stubborn lol I'm not fighting you. I'm just stating the obvious and logical thing. The non magically goku did it answer. It's in black and white even. 13. I'm cool either way. Whenever it's stated to be a projected goku avatar susano or a projected spirit ki manipulation giant clone of goku to release and give him the shot he needed against a angel powered planet moro. It's still goku ki and spirit. Originally it wasn't. Vegeta had that ki that was transferred and/or transformed to help goku.....14: I hope 🙏 you understand this finally and can see I have read the manga. Countless. And reviews. Even before release. The draft pages RUclipsrs show. There inputs. I'm not dumb. I just see in a different more non magically Gary sue. View. Aka it don't have to be just goku until its confirmed 100% 15: pretty sure vegeta brought planets that were galaxies away back to normal. 16: by dragon ball rules. If what you is true. Shouldn't ki avatar that comes from the body explode in contact. Like the ghost kamikaze attack that buu and gotenks uses.

  • @tylorkenniston1192
    @tylorkenniston1192 2 года назад +1

    I also wonder if Forced Spirt Fission would be able to remove power granted by a wish dragon 🐉 and give us a potential way out of the current arc haha

  • @kaylaturnis9486
    @kaylaturnis9486 2 года назад

    Please explain about Goku's gigantification, or his Omni Ultra Instinct form when he is in a giant astral form of himself!!! I thought it was AWESOME!!! 😎😎😎

  • @superskullmaster
    @superskullmaster 2 года назад +3

    The main thing we need explained is why he didn’t do it with Granolah.

    • @turnerbrawley4715
      @turnerbrawley4715 2 года назад +9

      Bc granolah isn't a fusion or clone when he started the fight with vegeta. Vegeta stated that granolah clones wouldn't work like it did on goku bc of forced spirit fission

    • @charndeepbhangoo7556
      @charndeepbhangoo7556 2 года назад +1

      Forced Spirit Fission worked on Moro though. And Moro wasn't a fused being nor a clone at the time of his initial fight with Vegeta.

    • @turnerbrawley4715
      @turnerbrawley4715 2 года назад +5

      @@charndeepbhangoo7556 moro absorbed 73 and multiple planets worth of life energy and spirit fission is stated to work on absorption. aswell as moro 73 copied vegeta and his fission ability allowing him to resist its effects

    • @jd55513
      @jd55513 2 года назад +3

      It cannot work on Granolah, because there is nothing to "separate". Granolah wish obtained power, while it counts as cheating, in terms of strength, by the logic and context of the wish, it IS still his power! The wish simply gave Granolah the power he would have achieved over his entire lifetime, but condensed and multipled based on the current strongest. It's still by definition, his own ki(specifically his Genki, which FSF works on)

    • @c4nchi
      @c4nchi 2 года назад

      @@turnerbrawley4715 It's not like Moro becomes "inmune" to FSF, Vegeta just needed to land a blow to defuse him but he couldn't because Moro got a lot more stronger and Vegeta couldn't even touch Moro.

  • @hoshiryu
    @hoshiryu 2 года назад +8

    Spirit Control abilites so far
    Basic: Instant Transmission
    Normal: Gigantofication and Cloning
    Advanced: Healing
    Super Advanced: Forced Spirit Fission

    • @nworder4life
      @nworder4life 2 года назад

      quite a few dbz fighters can do the clone thing, not sure that's a spirit technique. Piccolo being a namekian makes sense that they can do spirit control to a degree which would be emphasized by the gigantofication and healing.

  • @abpajotte
    @abpajotte 2 года назад

    Promise you this bout my 4th tine watching this. UE Vegeta Explained next. I love it whenever you explain characters. I love your guides Bro.

  • @JakeTylenol
    @JakeTylenol 2 года назад +13

    7:11 to be fair, Vegeta is a much more experienced fighter than a Namek saga Goku, if Goku is out there learning Angel techniques and already has the base knowledge for how to manipulate energy, then it’s not really that impressive for Vegeta to master this technique faster than a less seasoned Goku.

  • @trisxart2393
    @trisxart2393 2 года назад +1

    I'm surprised Vegeta ain't use it in the Granolah arc

  • @JLM_79
    @JLM_79 2 года назад +1

    Are you doing a vid on the Manga exclusive "Gamma Burst flash"?

  • @SuperBlueGamer9000
    @SuperBlueGamer9000 Год назад

    I just realized forced spirit fission plus the spirit bomb would be so dangerous

  • @repeat273
    @repeat273 Год назад

    Plus... goku and vegeta have a great understand of ki control or manipulation.. during the time goku was training with the yadrats, his understanding of ki control was no where near what it is now.. I'm sure now goku should be able to learn the technique
    Lastly you are definitely right about goku and vegeta... the fact it seems the plot is making them polar opposites
    But I still don't understand why instant transmission was given to vegeta while the it's a signature move of goku

  • @toddoshardcoremedia6589
    @toddoshardcoremedia6589 2 года назад

    I couldn't have described things differently myself. The thought process and description, of each power in Asian terms of how Vegeta and Goku are a Yin and Yang in the Dragon Ball Universe derived in part from the Monkey King Mythos also Journey to the West. Was well explained. :)

  • @MrDeykar
    @MrDeykar 2 года назад

    Not sure if this just ends up being a "win harder" Technique. Vegeta needs to be able to hit his enemy to use it, but that means Vegeta already needs to somewhat be relative in power/speed. Which means at this point Vegeta could arguebly beat the enemy either hard diff already by himself or mid to easy diff with Gokus help. Would have been a game changer against fused Zamasu though, since Goku Black wasnt immortal.

  • @mayojar5264
    @mayojar5264 2 года назад +1

    Can you do a video on the final shine attack plz

  • @0malleyAlleyc4t
    @0malleyAlleyc4t Год назад

    Im just so he glad he can teleport now. Mans needed it

    • @romallohenry
      @romallohenry Год назад

      I think he said hello never use it again

  • @charndeepbhangoo7556
    @charndeepbhangoo7556 2 года назад +9

    The Forced Fission technique would've been useful against Granolah. Too bad we will never see it again much like Goku's telepathy.

    • @jd55513
      @jd55513 2 года назад +6

      It cannot work on Granolah, because there is nothing to "separate". Granolah wish obtained power, while it counts as cheating, in terms of strength, by the logic and context of the wish, it IS still his power! The wish simply gave Granolah the power he would have achieved over his entire lifetime, but condensed and multipled based on the current strongest. It's still by definition, his own ki(specifically his Genki, which FSF works on)

    • @MrDeykar
      @MrDeykar 2 года назад +2

      The wish gave Granolah his own power he could have achieved during his lifetime. It's basically the ultimate "potential unlocked" wish. It's still his own power.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 2 года назад

      I have a theory we might have seen it. At one point when fighting Blue Evolution Vegeta, Granolah fires an energy ball at Vegeta in a lake. Vegeta grabs it with his fingers and after a bit it blows up. Vegeta is fine and Granolah is very surprised. My theory is that he Fissioned off aome energy from the ball to survive the blast.

    • @jd55513
      @jd55513 2 года назад

      @@specialnewb9821 No, he used Hakai to cancel or offset the explosion.
      If you look at Vegetas hands, there is a sound effect bubble, that indicates to the reader, that he used a particular technique, an explosion came from his end, and based on his training, it was the Hakai technique

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 2 года назад

      @@jd55513 Interesting idea. Could be!

  • @ChiChiLand299
    @ChiChiLand299 2 года назад +1

    Well with that technique is it's only really useful for very specific situations. It's only useful against genki and against fusions. Which is why it's useless against people like granola
    And at the same time I find it hard to believe that Goku really couldn't learn that since it's always been a gag about him learning things like they were no big deal and see that is just force writing. Lol

  • @joshualowe959
    @joshualowe959 2 года назад +1

    Vegeta should have gotten that win in the Moro arc

  • @ivanpadilla4479
    @ivanpadilla4479 2 года назад

    It’s great to know he can dismantle anyone now but he want to fight hand to hand anyway. He won’t use it unless it’s a dire situation.