Just wanted to add to the "why is EDNOS the most deadly eating disorder?" answer. You briefly mentioned the example of someone saying "I don't fit a criteria, so I don't have an eating disorder". For me, this is the thing that is so damaging. Feeling like you aren't "really ill" because you don't fit in with the ridiculous criteria for the other eating disorders. I even had a (terrible) therapist once say "it's only EDNOS" before ending our appointments (or, as I saw it at the time, "giving up on me"), and that knocked me back so much. The main problem with EDNOS is how competitive eating disorders are, paired with how society views EDNOS in comparison with the other eating disorders - most people don't know what it is and even some medical professionals don't take it seriously. Final comment, if you have EDNOS, you deserve help. There is no such thing as being "sick enough" to get help - as with any medical problem, the earlier you seek treatment, the better.
That was me...i wasn't underweight so not anorexia...i didn't binge so not bulimia. I didn't know ednos was a thing until I relapsed a bit in my 30's. I'm in my 40's now and overweight...and the biggest issue for me is I have to be super careful about dieting so as not to relapse.
7:40 oh my... I guess it's ednos what I'm having. When I'm figure skating 3 times a week I have so much energy, motivation, discipline and can go without eating for about a week. never collapsed. As soon as I'm on break from figure skating I'm totally depressed, feel like I don't know what to do with my life,... and can't stop binging and purging and that makes me feel even WORSE, don't wanna see anyone, feel like I wanna die, etc..
I've been depressed for about 4 years and I have a therapist and meds but i'm TERRIFIED because I don't know who I'd be without my depression because I was so young when it started and it developed my personality..
When you're just watching RUclips and accidentally find your actual best friend in the comments? I love you sm and I know you can make it and I'll always be here for you through thick and thin
i had the same thing, only just starting to feel what it feels like to be happy/neutral instead of sad most of the time which is scary bc the sadness can be comforting and safe cus it can't go lower than that...solidartiy sis, but recovery is so worth it.
Unicorn Baby i feel the same about my mental illness. i think something important you need to realise is that YOU ARE NOT YOUR MENTAL ILLNESS. it doesn’t define you at all and you will still be the same amazing person without it. youll even be happier too!! my own therapist told me that, and she played a game of jenga with me that had random questions on the back of blocks to answer to show me that there was more to my personality than my mental illness. i would definitely recommend getting your own therapist x
So true what you said about EDNOS...after a forced and incomplete recovery from anorexia, I spent almost 3 years in EDNOS hell, embarrassed to seek treatment. It wasn't until I clinically met the diagnosis criteria for bulimia that I finally felt "worthy" of help.
Sydney Alexander I had a similar kind of incomplete recovery and I spent about 1 year and a half, actually a little more but didn’t hit 2 years in this hell as well, awful way to live, or try to live
i failed recovery, gained on a small amount and didn’t fully repair, hit a healthy weight but my body is starved, i’m so hungry all the time it’s debilitating
I had to do a food journal like that for class and it was so triggering I relapsed for a while. I wish it wasn't something we had to do. I told my teacher and she just brushed it off and said that I just need to understand that I need to be healthy. Didn't help much (shocker) and I still had to do the journal :/
I'm a really open person, so this worked for me. I just went up to my college professor and said I was diagnosed with an and receiving treatment and couldn't do the assignment. It's good to be really direct and say that you need a different assignment. In America, eating disorders are a disability and it's against the American's with Disabilities Act to make you do an assignment that's harmful for you. Acknowledging our needs and taking care of ourselves is a huge part of healing and it's really important even when it's difficult. The conversation with your teacher will probably go better then you think.
I had to use my fitness pal freshman year of high school and that is how my eating disorder started. My teacher didn't even confront me or tell anyone when I would eat less than 800 cal. a day. I am going to be a sophomore in college and still struggle. And my parents still don't think I have one. they think it is for attention. They think everything I do is for attention. But I am way past that point of getting attention. I just want help.
I’ve never seen a specialist so I am not diagnosed with any ED. But food, calories and weight have literally taken over my life. Sometimes I go days with barley eating and if I didn’t lose enough weight I get depressed. My BMI isn’t low so no one cares when I lose 5 pounds in a week from not eating. I get congratulated. And even though I’m not under weight it doesn’t change the fact that I’m greatly suffering.
Last year I went to another middle school (9th grade) and I was suffering from PTSD, depression and I selfharmed. I switched to another school in 10th grade. I have friends there incl my bestfriend. The last arts and crafts project is making a knife and it's really triggering for me and I too my bestfriend that I was so not looking forward to doing it. Without telling me anything she told the school counsellor that it was triggering for me and she told the arts and crafts and I get to do cartoons instead.
My therapist and i get along fine . Its just i have been in therapy for many years now i do see some progress but im scared to give up a 100 percent my eating disorder. Im not underweight so i dont think i have anorexia . Its a combination of bulimia and anorexia but my therapist and i dont really talk about my eating disorder we talk about other issues instead of the eating disorder itself and i fell alone in this. It s worse during weekends because i dont cope well on weekends
I also had a similar experience to question number three! I am taking a nutrition food lab this semester for my major, and the teacher said that once all the dishes in the food lab are made, we must sample ALL of the groups' dishes.... YIKES. I freaked out at first, but then I realized she is a nutrition teacher! She worked at an eating disorder clinic for a while! So I sent her an email explaining my situation and asked for any tips or if I could simply push myself to whatever I am comfortable with. She gave me some great tips and was totally understanding! So my advice to everyone is this: if you are having an experience like that, your teacher has probably dealt with a similar situation before because of their profession. It is much more worth it to try to work with them to solve your problem than have it eat away at you and hinder your recovery!!! Hope this helps :)
Also, I would definitely start out with emailing your teacher because I know for me, it was super terrifying to tell her about my situation. They may email you back saying they want to talk in person, but at least the hard part (the confession if you will) is over!!!
I found that if I was honest and straight forward with my teachers/professors most if not all of them were more than happy to accommodate my needs for an alternate or modification of an assignment. I have had a lot of friends who have also had positive experiences with professors and assignments that have been triggering. Most of them appreciate the fact that you are willing to speak up for the sake of your health rather than suffering through an assignment that could potentially be detrimental to the work you've done thus far. It might be nerve racking at first to approach your teacher/professor but they will understand and they will work with you. On the plus side you may even feel empowered because you took a step to do what you thought was best for you even if it was hard! :-)
I relate to having been depressed for so long I'd forgotten what it was like to be normal. I'm in my 30s and have, unbeknownst to me, been struggling with depression and anxiety most of my life. I'd initially rejected medication, wanting to heal with therapy alone. Making the decision to try medication along with therapy was game-changing for me after 3 years of just therapy. I paid close attention to how I felt on the meds vs. before and it was amazing to notice the difference! I was OVERWHELMED with a sense of nostalgia - I hadn't been that relaxed or "happy" since I was a kid. A lot of other life situations were aligning to make me feel this way and it didn't last, but even though things are difficult again and the depression lingers, I'm not struggling as much and the best part is I now have context and can remember what both ends of the spectrum are and I have a better idea of what I'm working toward. :)
I start my day with your videos.. your demeanor and advice really helps me keep a positive attitude for the day.. Also, i got rid of the metal corkscrew i was using to self harm about three years ago.. it took me a long time to part with it. I took all the clothing that i used to wear to cover my scars and all of my tools and threw them in the trash at a forest preserve that was far from my home.. It was the day i was released from my two week 51/50. I knew if i threw them in my own trash, i would just dig it out.
Im a new subscriber and I really love your positive attitute and your willingness to help others. Ive been battling with depression and high anxiety my whole life as well as that eating disorder. Thank you for your videos
the first question is so relevant.... i was SH clean for over a year, but it took me a while to be able to throw away my razors. when i finally did, though, it was very cathartic and it actually made me really proud of myself!
"We can all get [a therapist]." LOL Check. Your. Privilege. Not everyone can afford therapy. Not everyone can afford insurance that covers mental health services. Not everyone makes that much money. Not everyone's job(s) allows time off for their mental health. Not everyone's family situation allows them to go to therapy (ex. an abuser who won't allow it). I am astounded that some people think luxuries like therapy are just out there for everyone simply because they have it.
100% agree, HOWEVER you could have easily made that less aggressive. Why would you intentionally make something sound rude and aggressive if you could have just commented that not everyone has these resources.
I think neuroplasticity would help support your theory about forgetting "normal". The brain makes connections it recognises easier and faster to make once they've already been established and encouraged by sources outside (my old psychologist called them schemas)
#KatiFAQ: Hi, Kati! I've had problems with eating for years, ever since I was little. I thought (and my parents think) that I'm just a fussy eater. My diet basically consists of junk food. Not good, right? It was alright to eat chicken nuggets every day when I was a kid but I'm 19 now and I'm still eating kids' food. I am also very weird when it comes to my food. For example: I don't like my food touching and if I'm preparing food in the kitchen, I don't like anyone to be in the kitchen with me - it feels like they're watching and judging me or something. I know that it shouldn't bother me but it does and I'm not sure how I should go about changing it. It's the same with eating out: I hate sitting down with family to eat dinner. I feel anxious and uncomfortable to the point that I lose my appetite and I have to apologise for not finishing the meal that was made for me. And I sometimes I get the option not to attend family events but if I choose that option, I feel bad. I cried on the way over to my aunts house, where we were having Christmas dinner, because I was so anxious. I've never been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder but really does seem to play a part in my eating. I don't eat when I go out (only to go to to college because another one of my problems is that I'm scared to go out places with my friends, I'm too dependent on my parents.) so that I don't have to deal with people at cash registers and I'm usually with close friends as well and I feel uncomfortable eating in front of them. I worry that they'll make fun of me or something. The problem with this is that a lot of the time I'm out all day. I'll get eat something before I leave at 7am and I don't get back til nearly 6pm. So, I'm eating nothing when I'm out but I get this weird satisfaction being the only one of my friends not eating, like I have the most self-control or something. And when I finally get home, that's when I lose my control and eat so much that I feel sick and i feel really awful about myself, like I can /feel/ myself gaining weight because of how much I ate. I do tend to eat too much when I'm alone, generally, even if I've been eating relatively normal all day. And what'll happen is I'll get up really late so I miss breakfast, then eat so much that I'm full for the rest of the day. Like, I'll feel ill at first then next thing I know, I have to go to sleep and I start to feel hungry.. but I like knowing that my stomach is empty. I don't.. starve to lose weight, I don't own a scale so I can't weigh myself but I do look in the mirror a lot and, honestly, I do not like what I see. I do see fat and ugh.. I hate it. But I've been so down and unmotivated and tired for such a long time that I can't even care enough to do something about it. That took a really long time to get to my point which is: Do I have some sort of eating disorder? Could it be ednos since I'm binging and restricting, I suppose? I feel like it's not as bad as it could be, like maybe I'm being over dramatic about it but I just want to be sure. Also, my parents tell me that I'm really over-sensitive because I take offence to little things and I cry a lot. I'll cry about stupid things, sometimes nothing at all. Kinda want to know why I do that, I guess? And how do I prepare for going to family dinners, how do I control my panics? I know that was a lot of probably unnecessary information and a lot of questions but thank you in advance if you answer any of them.
Tilly Clark OMG! I've just read this and I can relate to the most of the things you wrote but unfortunately I don't know what it is.Have a wonderful day.Stay safe
I don’t like my foods touching either. I also eat like one thing at a time on plate. I helped in bible school they had a meal after the commencement then someone asked me if I liked slaw I said yes. They gave me bread or something that had slaw on it. I said it’s not only touching it’s on it I said I can’t eat it like that they probably thought I was weird I took it but I think it got thrown away. Why would anyone do that?
At the present time, stats show anorexia to be the deadliest of the eating disorders, but. I agree that ED NOS is potentially the most dangerous for many reasons.
Katie is overeating an eating disorder? I cannot stop. I gained 30 pounds in the last 60 days and most in the last 4 weeks I feeling like I cannot stop. I just finished and I am thinking about next meal or ice cream 😭
I am depressed all the time, my therapist is not really helping. I tried to stop taking meds but I had a really bad time coming off. so back on the Zoloft again
D: You should never go off mental health medication cold turkey. As you have probably found out, it does a lot of harm. This is because of how mental health meds work - they change hormones around in your brain and your brain gets used to their effects. Once you stop without giving your brain another to supplement (basically you gradually step down from one and gradually - at the same time - take another in increasing doses), your brain goes all crazy and doesn't know what to do for a while. It misfires a lot more than it does before taking the meds until it can get back to what it considers "normal." Stay on your meds until you can get a change from your doctor. If your therapist isn't working out for you, try to find another. It took me a few times to find a right psychiatrist (not a therapist, but same difference). One wanted to give me a lot of meds that made me suicidal and wouldn't really listen when I explained that. So I went to another and then another before I got someone I trust. But that trust is key and if you don't have it with your professional, please find another. The world wants you to live, you are very important to your family and friends. I hope you get the right one soon. :)
I am starting to come off all the drugs slowly. Nearly off the diazipam. Nearly off the seriquil. Cutting back on zoloft. Ok so far. Lets hope it stayes that way. I have a new girlfriend, so thats helping.
I know you posted this four years ago, but I hope that your life has greatly improved since then and that you've found the help and love that you deserve. Wishing you all of the good things in life Kim.
As a teacher, as well as someone who has lived through an eating disorder, as well as someone who knows the statistics on how many people are affected by disordered eating, or eating disorders, or body dismorphic disorder,... i just can't understand why teachers would assign an assignment like you are describing here (where students have to track their nutrients or intake or exercise or whatever). It's kind of infuriating actually. I spend a lot of energy when teaching at high schools keeping an eye out for the mental health of students. Because it's MY JOB. And then to have assignments like this be common place? Whatever benefits to physical health might come of understanding the different aspects of nutrition are totally outweighed here by the obsessive and analytical approach. oooooh i'm so mad.
I got excited when I saw you posted.. I didn't really realise how much I missed your videos! Try not to stress too much, your hard work and determination will definitely pay off :) Ps, if you go to Cirque du Solei you should tell us how it was!! I've always wanted to go xx
I am an ex cutter and I kept my blades for a good while after I stopped. Some people cannot let go all at once and for them it has to be a gradual process. I used to keep my razorblades hidden in a stationary clock and it took me a while to chuck them.
I'm 30 and I feel like I've been depressed since my teens. I wasn't diagnosed with it formally until I was a young adult. I have to say, I don't even know when the last time I was truly happy. I want to say 12-14, but even then I question that. Some seeds were being sown. I basically think that I started getting depressed sometime between age 13-16 and it just worse overtime.
hi Kati i have a question: what if you have been forced to therapy and you are not ready to recover? im in therapy for my eating disorder and depression but i dont feel ready to give up my eating disorder. its my way of coping and dealing with things and i feel safe with my eating disorder. i have bben in therapy for srveral years same therapist but i feel sometimes i still need to hang on to my eating disorder
Its okay if youre not ready to recover, you will get there! For now maybe just focus on things in therapy that you use your ed to cope with but not your actual ed. I was there too when I started therapy,. No one was going to make me give it up....but in time as I started talking about what was going on in life I found other ways to deal with it besides my ed and it made me feel so much better! Try to find the sources of why you use your ed and other ways to cope that are healthy and in time you will want to let ed go. (:
Hey, I know I'm not Kati. I would just like to help answer the questions. I'm 29 and I want to be a therapist and I recovered from an eating disorder about four years ago. Do you feel that you and your therapist aren't clicking or is it that you don't feel ready to be in recovery? Your therapist should be giving you coping ideas and checking in with you and see if they are working. If the therapist isn't doing this, try to find a new one. If you just don't feel like you are ready for recovery consider this: nobody ever regrets recovering. Eating disorders take over your brain and distort things. One of the things I think about now is why I didn't try to recover sooner. I would really encourage you to put effort into recovery even if you are scared. Speaking from the other side, eating disorders aren't worth hanging on to. If I can help out at all please let me know. I think of this community everyday.
I had to write down what I ate for a week for some health class. I didn't tell the teacher what I felt about it or anything so I wrote it down. After I was done, she saw that there was barely anything on it and so she had to call my mom because she was worried about me. At first the teacher gave me a bad grade on the assignment but then after talking with her, she changed the grade and was much more understanding.
I didn’t know I had EDNOS until 6 months ago. I’ve had it ever since I was a child, about 11 I think. It’s seriously eye opening to realize this and it sucks but it’s also a relief to know that I’m not some freak. I go through hardcore binge and restrict cycles. Like, there hasn’t been a single DAY since I was 11 where I wasn’t either stuffed to the brim or completely starving. I don’t know what being comfortably full feels like! I’m afraid to reach out to my parents (I’m 20 now) and get help. I’m afraid they won’t believe me or won’t understand. I’m so alone.
3 years ago I told myself I’m going to get abs now I’m just buff constantly overtraining with cycles of eating clean and then binge eating and I’m obsessed with it hopefully it can be fixed
My eating is disordered but I don't have an eating disorder..I restrict to no more than 700 cal a day and some days I will weight myself and not eat at all until the scale reaches the number I decided to get to even if that means I don't eat for two or three days.....some days I barely brake 200 cal..I have a ton of neurotic habits around food. I almost had a panic attack on a cruise ship because I had to go to the buffay, I avoid those, and they didn't have dessert plates. I never ever serve myself on dinner plates. When I serve myself my food never touches. At least 1/4 of the plate has to be visible when the food is on the plate and I must leave a bite of every food when I am done. But, I am over weight, I never ever bieneg or heaven forbid purge so I am just dieting...but it sure feels crazy out of control to me...
My EDNOS has literally ruined my life... I tried asking for help for so long but because I was still overweight it wasn't enough to get help... Now im 153lbs before I was 200 this ”weight loss” might seem normal but to me its not..... I hate this...
I was diagnosed with depression when I was 13. I'm 37 so it's been years. Depression isn't a requirement for an eating disorder. So I don't really connect the two.
I don’t really know what my diagnoses is...my doctors records say eating disorder not specified, but my therapist and dietician treat me for anorexia, so I don’t really know what I’ve got!
And I binge, I have tried to purge but I dont think I try long enough bc I can't do it. I binge, then I stop eating and at my old house if I ate more then I wanted I would exercise but now I can't cuz I live in a apartment but if I didn't I would be out exercising like crazy. I would stop eating for a long time too. Is this a Ed and if it is what type is it?
@@sem2709 depends on the frequency. If it's several times in at least three months it's non purge bulimia. If it's spread out through a few months it's ednos which is what I am.
I was at and eating disorder recovery Clinic for the past 4 1/2 months and it's great cause I have not purged for nearly 3 months and now I've graduated from the program but I never got therapy for what the root of my problem was. They came at it with the attitude of "You will never get rid of this its just who you are just hold a rock( Or other coping skills) and you will be okay." Is this true? I will never get rid of it? Is it wrong for me too want to get to the root of the issue and solve it at much as I can?
#KatiFAQ I see my therapist tomorrow. I want to tell him that I'm struggling with restricting and fasting, however I'm nervous for what he will do next. I'm currently overweight, he won't put me in a hospital, will he? What might he do?
I need a therapist really bad. One of my issues is extreme anxiety around money. I work 3 jobs and it takes up most of my time. I need to find a way to let go of this anxiety for enough time to fit a therapist into my schedule. This feels kind of hopeless because it would just exacerbate my already existing anxiety that destroys my relationships with the world around me. That first hour isn’t going to fix it, but the entire shift lost because of that scheduling will damage me immensely. What do I do?
#KatiFAQ I have been very depressed in the past couple of month,and sometimes it would affect my apatite i didn't find it a big deal until i saw my weight dropping , a little part of me didn't really care because i was losing weight and i really didn't work on it but as time passed by i found myself cutting down the amount of calories i took daily and ik i made it reach the extremes when i started purging what i ate, like this all started off because i really had no will to eat anymore and food began to disgust me, sometimes i would actually feel nauseous thinking about eating and in my current weight i am satisfied but i want to lose more. i never had any problems towards my weight but i think this losing my apatite triggered me to lose more. My question is do u think i am developing an eating disorder even tho i didn't want to actually start one sometimes i feel like it came with some kind of flow and now i feel trapped and scared about this. THANK YOU
Thanks for taking the time to put up a video, even though you're super busy!! I have a question for next week (#KatiFAQ): Do you think most people that struggle with an ED and/or SH had some kind of difficult/abusive childhood? (It seems that way to me, but I was wondering if you've seen the same thing in your practice) If so, why do you think that is?
ED and SH don't discriminate-they're things that people of all backgrounds can use to try and cope with stuff. I don't know any stats, but illnesses can happen to anyone.
Just got told that I have ednos a few weeks ago. Been trying to do what the therapist and the ED specialist says but one thing is that yesterday was the one year anniversary of my friend being laid to rest 8-3-17 and so now I don't want to eat. #KatiFAQ can a therapist put you into the hospital and force you to eat. She is saying that what I am doing is self harm and I hate that I feel like I am under a microscope. What can I do?
Wow, I had to write down what I ate in 6th grade for an assignment and I had an eating disorder without knowing it until 9th grade. I didn't realize but that probably triggered something. (I refused to do the assignment at the time just because I hated PE.)
Hey kati, so I went to the doctor today for a check up and i had planned on telling him about feeling depressed, anxiety and everything, but when i was going to tell him, i was just too scared and i got too nervous and totally chickened out. I know i won't be able to get help unless i actually tell them, but i'm so scared. How do i even tell them?
Hi Kati, maybe you will see this on here before the website, I think you turned off the public chat on your website. maybe it was on purpose, but if not, it would be awesome to have it back on please! :)
I'm not Kati, but there's a new chat set up that I think she's still working on. There's a huge delay on new chat, so I wonder if that's why it's not up and running
I actually haven't watch much reality tv lately. I find that I'm going back to scripted/dramas, documentaries (real reality), and a glorified talent show called, HitRECordonTV.
Eating Disorder Not Otherwise Specified. It's an outdated term though; it's not in the DSM-5. It's called OSFED now, or Other Specified Feeding or Eating Disorder (I know this is six months late, but idk if you ever got your answer)
Hey kati, i was just wondering if I could get some advice. My mom lost her job back in December, my dads job also told him they are not keeping him full time but they didn't give him a end date. I am battleing edons, depression, anxitey, and self harm. I want to get better but I do not have a good relationship with my parents, we no longer have health insurence because that was through my moms work. They know I have dealt with self harm and I have seen 2 different therapist in the past but it never really helped. I just dont know what to do because I cant talk to my parents, the past several times I did and it made everything much worse.
Hi Erica, I have a few possible suggestions for you, having gone through a similar situation myself. Don't be discouraged by the 2 therapists you have seen in the past not helping. Sometimes it takes a few tries to find someone you work well with and trust, it definitely did for me! if you are still in school, I would definitely urge you to consider reaching out to any school counselors/psychologists/social workers that are available. It might be hard/uncomfortable/awkward at first, but they are there for you as a resource and as a support for you, so it is worth a try. I know it might be a bit costly especially without insurance at the moment, but perhaps even scheduling an appointment with your GP for a physical (good to have anyway!) and then at that appointment, ask him for some advice on some more resources for you. Perhaps if needed, a first step to a conversation with your parents if you really need to, and cannot find any other options, would be to ask them to find you some health insurance available for children through your state, if you are in the US, some states have low cost options for children/teens based on family income. That way, you can have the ball rolling to getting insurance for yourself, and possible treatment in the future. Hang in there. I know how hard it can be, but you can get through this! Also, check out kati's website, it's a great place to find support from others!
I'm really sorry this has happened!! Do you have someone at school you could talk to? Or maybe a close friend? People do have connections so sometimes sharing with someone you trust can offer other resources to help!
I am 16, and everytime i have talked to my parents about it in that past they really just made everything worse, and i have never had a good relationship with them at all Brianna Murray
justagirl1516 everytime i tell my friends about everything they leave, and when i have talked to someone at my school they told my parents and my parents made everything worse
This is another example around 5:35 of how the therapist isn't helping the patient. You can't expect the rest of the world to March around your special eating disorder because calorie counting is "triggering" for you. The therapist should be psychoanalyzing why something is affecting the client (I feel scared or sad or angry when I calorie count because I have a fear of weight gain and hatred of my body, which can be corrected with information and other client focused therapy) not control their environment in a very unsustainable way and shame the wellness professional for doing something that is helpful to everyone. How is information not helping people? You're missing an opportunity to help the patient by exploring their reactions to calorie counting, so the activity is actually helpful to that patient in a way you clearly miss. The live under a rock therapy technique is poor practice.
Furthermore, the fact you're not comfortable, as a therapist, with calorie counting means you are still not done exploring your anger toward calories and body image yourself. The pretend everything is ok approach doesn't fly with most clients, especially ED ones. This is why ED therapy doesn't seem to be effective for a lot of clients. It isn't their values.
It is frustrating that professionals who use calorie counting are shamed by ED therapist as though we are making the problem worse. Lots of ED therapist are no better than right wing Christians trying to convert everyone to their ideology that makes no sense and has more to do with their lack of emotional intelligence and own trauma and ability to process through their own issues with something as science based and objective as calorie counting. It's like being a climate change denier. Science is real. Your personal beliefs about something objective need to be processed on your own.
@@jrg305 I personally think it really would depend on the client and how far along the road to recovery they are. I mean yeah, calorie counting shouldn't be triggering, it means there's something wrong if it is. But with these people, there _is_ something wrong, and it _does_ trigger them. And depending on how much it does, it'd be a good or a bad idea. EDs are often like an addiction, and you wouldn't say, put a recovering alcoholic in a bar full of alcohol and people drinking said alcohol. Not unless they are ready, not unless they can be stay sober when put in such an enviroment. Otherwise they just shouldn't go there yet. Of course you should look at the issues they're trying to cope with, of course you should look at the twisted beliefs and values and address those. Of course you should look at the reasons why they engage in their disordered behaviour or feel tempted to (such as restricting) and deal with those. But that doesn't mean clients shouldn't try to avoid triggers they can't deal with yet if it's at all possible.
Would your family be ‘allowed’ to take your self harm tools from you ?? Like I said something to my brother and he told on me and him and my mom took them away and then wanted to “interrogate me” if I had more. Thoughts on that??
I believe I have EDNOS but I'm over 300 lbs so I refuse to get help till I'm at a healthy, desirable body size. So I don't consider it an eating disorder.
"If a client has been depressed for more than 2 years, we often forget what it's like to not be depressed."
when my depression went away after 12 years, it felt like the first time ever.
im almost 23 and ive been depressed almost my whole life and i actually cant remember life before it 🤷🏻
Just wanted to add to the "why is EDNOS the most deadly eating disorder?" answer. You briefly mentioned the example of someone saying "I don't fit a criteria, so I don't have an eating disorder". For me, this is the thing that is so damaging. Feeling like you aren't "really ill" because you don't fit in with the ridiculous criteria for the other eating disorders. I even had a (terrible) therapist once say "it's only EDNOS" before ending our appointments (or, as I saw it at the time, "giving up on me"), and that knocked me back so much. The main problem with EDNOS is how competitive eating disorders are, paired with how society views EDNOS in comparison with the other eating disorders - most people don't know what it is and even some medical professionals don't take it seriously. Final comment, if you have EDNOS, you deserve help. There is no such thing as being "sick enough" to get help - as with any medical problem, the earlier you seek treatment, the better.
That was me...i wasn't underweight so not anorexia...i didn't binge so not bulimia. I didn't know ednos was a thing until I relapsed a bit in my 30's. I'm in my 40's now and overweight...and the biggest issue for me is I have to be super careful about dieting so as not to relapse.
Thank you for your comment, I relate allot
i have EDNOS/OSFED and it sucks knowing im "not thin enough"
*thinking
7:40 oh my... I guess it's ednos what I'm having. When I'm figure skating 3 times a week I have so much energy, motivation, discipline and can go without eating for about a week. never collapsed. As soon as I'm on break from figure skating I'm totally depressed, feel like I don't know what to do with my life,... and can't stop binging and purging and that makes me feel even WORSE, don't wanna see anyone, feel like I wanna die, etc..
I've been depressed for about 4 years and I have a therapist and meds but i'm TERRIFIED because I don't know who I'd be without my depression because I was so young when it started and it developed my personality..
When you're just watching RUclips and accidentally find your actual best friend in the comments? I love you sm and I know you can make it and I'll always be here for you through thick and thin
i had the same thing, only just starting to feel what it feels like to be happy/neutral instead of sad most of the time which is scary bc the sadness can be comforting and safe cus it can't go lower than that...solidartiy sis, but recovery is so worth it.
Unicorn Baby i feel the same about my mental illness. i think something important you need to realise is that YOU ARE NOT YOUR MENTAL ILLNESS. it doesn’t define you at all and you will still be the same amazing person without it. youll even be happier too!! my own therapist told me that, and she played a game of jenga with me that had random questions on the back of blocks to answer to show me that there was more to my personality than my mental illness. i would definitely recommend getting your own therapist x
Mine started at 12. Ended at 28. Am I different? Yes. Was it worth it? Yes! Love to you. Hope the 3 years since your comment have treated you kindly.
i love how she doesn't make us feel like a little kid and she speaks so normally even talking about this-its so comforting
So true what you said about EDNOS...after a forced and incomplete recovery from anorexia, I spent almost 3 years in EDNOS hell, embarrassed to seek treatment. It wasn't until I clinically met the diagnosis criteria for bulimia that I finally felt "worthy" of help.
Sydney Alexander I had a similar kind of incomplete recovery and I spent about 1 year and a half, actually a little more but didn’t hit 2 years in this hell as well, awful way to live, or try to live
i failed recovery, gained on a small amount and didn’t fully repair, hit a healthy weight but my body is starved, i’m so hungry all the time it’s debilitating
I had to do a food journal like that for class and it was so triggering I relapsed for a while. I wish it wasn't something we had to do. I told my teacher and she just brushed it off and said that I just need to understand that I need to be healthy. Didn't help much (shocker) and I still had to do the journal :/
I'm sorry
I'm a really open person, so this worked for me. I just went up to my college professor and said I was diagnosed with an and receiving treatment and couldn't do the assignment. It's good to be really direct and say that you need a different assignment. In America, eating disorders are a disability and it's against the American's with Disabilities Act to make you do an assignment that's harmful for you. Acknowledging our needs and taking care of ourselves is a huge part of healing and it's really important even when it's difficult. The conversation with your teacher will probably go better then you think.
with an eating disorder
I had to use my fitness pal freshman year of high school and that is how my eating disorder started. My teacher didn't even confront me or tell anyone when I would eat less than 800 cal. a day. I am going to be a sophomore in college and still struggle. And my parents still don't think I have one. they think it is for attention. They think everything I do is for attention. But I am way past that point of getting attention. I just want help.
I’ve never seen a specialist so I am not diagnosed with any ED. But food, calories and weight have literally taken over my life. Sometimes I go days with barley eating and if I didn’t lose enough weight I get depressed. My BMI isn’t low so no one cares when I lose 5 pounds in a week from not eating. I get congratulated. And even though I’m not under weight it doesn’t change the fact that I’m greatly suffering.
Last year I went to another middle school (9th grade) and I was suffering from PTSD, depression and I selfharmed. I switched to another school in 10th grade. I have friends there incl my bestfriend. The last arts and crafts project is making a knife and it's really triggering for me and I too my bestfriend that I was so not looking forward to doing it. Without telling me anything she told the school counsellor that it was triggering for me and she told the arts and crafts and I get to do cartoons instead.
JordanJFan best friend award goes to
My therapist and i get along fine . Its just i have been in therapy for many years now i do see some progress but im scared to give up a 100 percent my eating disorder. Im not underweight so i dont think i have anorexia . Its a combination of bulimia and anorexia but my therapist and i dont really talk about my eating disorder we talk about other issues instead of the eating disorder itself and i fell alone in this. It s worse during weekends because i dont cope well on weekends
I also had a similar experience to question number three! I am taking a nutrition food lab this semester for my major, and the teacher said that once all the dishes in the food lab are made, we must sample ALL of the groups' dishes.... YIKES. I freaked out at first, but then I realized she is a nutrition teacher! She worked at an eating disorder clinic for a while! So I sent her an email explaining my situation and asked for any tips or if I could simply push myself to whatever I am comfortable with. She gave me some great tips and was totally understanding! So my advice to everyone is this: if you are having an experience like that, your teacher has probably dealt with a similar situation before because of their profession. It is much more worth it to try to work with them to solve your problem than have it eat away at you and hinder your recovery!!! Hope this helps :)
Also, I would definitely start out with emailing your teacher because I know for me, it was super terrifying to tell her about my situation. They may email you back saying they want to talk in person, but at least the hard part (the confession if you will) is over!!!
I found that if I was honest and straight forward with my teachers/professors most if not all of them were more than happy to accommodate my needs for an alternate or modification of an assignment. I have had a lot of friends who have also had positive experiences with professors and assignments that have been triggering.
Most of them appreciate the fact that you are willing to speak up for the sake of your health rather than suffering through an assignment that could potentially be detrimental to the work you've done thus far.
It might be nerve racking at first to approach your teacher/professor but they will understand and they will work with you.
On the plus side you may even feel empowered because you took a step to do what you thought was best for you even if it was hard! :-)
I relate to having been depressed for so long I'd forgotten what it was like to be normal. I'm in my 30s and have, unbeknownst to me, been struggling with depression and anxiety most of my life. I'd initially rejected medication, wanting to heal with therapy alone. Making the decision to try medication along with therapy was game-changing for me after 3 years of just therapy. I paid close attention to how I felt on the meds vs. before and it was amazing to notice the difference! I was OVERWHELMED with a sense of nostalgia - I hadn't been that relaxed or "happy" since I was a kid. A lot of other life situations were aligning to make me feel this way and it didn't last, but even though things are difficult again and the depression lingers, I'm not struggling as much and the best part is I now have context and can remember what both ends of the spectrum are and I have a better idea of what I'm working toward. :)
I start my day with your videos.. your demeanor and advice really helps me keep a positive attitude for the day.. Also, i got rid of the metal corkscrew i was using to self harm about three years ago.. it took me a long time to part with it. I took all the clothing that i used to wear to cover my scars and all of my tools and threw them in the trash at a forest preserve that was far from my home.. It was the day i was released from my two week 51/50. I knew if i threw them in my own trash, i would just dig it out.
Im a new subscriber and I really love your positive attitute and your willingness to help others. Ive been battling with depression and high anxiety my whole life as well as that eating disorder. Thank you for your videos
You are really sweet, thank you for having this channel.
I'm glad you're doing the videos, on friday so I can here the "it's finally friday" :D
the first question is so relevant.... i was SH clean for over a year, but it took me a while to be able to throw away my razors. when i finally did, though, it was very cathartic and it actually made me really proud of myself!
I switch between binge eating, bingeing and purging, and fasting which I can usually only made to 3 days before I go on a binge.
"We can all get [a therapist]."
LOL Check. Your. Privilege.
Not everyone can afford therapy. Not everyone can afford insurance that covers mental health services. Not everyone makes that much money. Not everyone's job(s) allows time off for their mental health. Not everyone's family situation allows them to go to therapy (ex. an abuser who won't allow it).
I am astounded that some people think luxuries like therapy are just out there for everyone simply because they have it.
100% agree, HOWEVER you could have easily made that less aggressive. Why would you intentionally make something sound rude and aggressive if you could have just commented that not everyone has these resources.
I just found your channel, thank you for this. You make me feel better and more comfortable
I think neuroplasticity would help support your theory about forgetting "normal". The brain makes connections it recognises easier and faster to make once they've already been established and encouraged by sources outside (my old psychologist called them schemas)
Have EDNOS for almost 20 years just now admitting it to myself
#KatiFAQ: Hi, Kati! I've had problems with eating for years, ever since I was little. I thought (and my parents think) that I'm just a fussy eater. My diet basically consists of junk food. Not good, right? It was alright to eat chicken nuggets every day when I was a kid but I'm 19 now and I'm still eating kids' food. I am also very weird when it comes to my food. For example: I don't like my food touching and if I'm preparing food in the kitchen, I don't like anyone to be in the kitchen with me - it feels like they're watching and judging me or something. I know that it shouldn't bother me but it does and I'm not sure how I should go about changing it. It's the same with eating out: I hate sitting down with family to eat dinner. I feel anxious and uncomfortable to the point that I lose my appetite and I have to apologise for not finishing the meal that was made for me. And I sometimes I get the option not to attend family events but if I choose that option, I feel bad. I cried on the way over to my aunts house, where we were having Christmas dinner, because I was so anxious.
I've never been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder but really does seem to play a part in my eating. I don't eat when I go out (only to go to to college because another one of my problems is that I'm scared to go out places with my friends, I'm too dependent on my parents.) so that I don't have to deal with people at cash registers and I'm usually with close friends as well and I feel uncomfortable eating in front of them. I worry that they'll make fun of me or something. The problem with this is that a lot of the time I'm out all day. I'll get eat something before I leave at 7am and I don't get back til nearly 6pm. So, I'm eating nothing when I'm out but I get this weird satisfaction being the only one of my friends not eating, like I have the most self-control or something. And when I finally get home, that's when I lose my control and eat so much that I feel sick and i feel really awful about myself, like I can /feel/ myself gaining weight because of how much I ate. I do tend to eat too much when I'm alone, generally, even if I've been eating relatively normal all day. And what'll happen is I'll get up really late so I miss breakfast, then eat so much that I'm full for the rest of the day. Like, I'll feel ill at first then next thing I know, I have to go to sleep and I start to feel hungry.. but I like knowing that my stomach is empty. I don't.. starve to lose weight, I don't own a scale so I can't weigh myself but I do look in the mirror a lot and, honestly, I do not like what I see. I do see fat and ugh.. I hate it. But I've been so down and unmotivated and tired for such a long time that I can't even care enough to do something about it.
That took a really long time to get to my point which is: Do I have some sort of eating disorder? Could it be ednos since I'm binging and restricting, I suppose? I feel like it's not as bad as it could be, like maybe I'm being over dramatic about it but I just want to be sure.
Also, my parents tell me that I'm really over-sensitive because I take offence to little things and I cry a lot. I'll cry about stupid things, sometimes nothing at all. Kinda want to know why I do that, I guess? And how do I prepare for going to family dinners, how do I control my panics?
I know that was a lot of probably unnecessary information and a lot of questions but thank you in advance if you answer any of them.
Tilly Clark OMG! I've just read this and I can relate to the most of the things you wrote but unfortunately I don't know what it is.Have a wonderful day.Stay safe
I don’t like my foods touching either. I also eat like one thing at a time on plate. I helped in bible school they had a meal after the commencement then someone asked me if I liked slaw I said yes. They gave me bread or something that had slaw on it. I said it’s not only touching it’s on it I said I can’t eat it like that they probably thought I was weird I took it but I think it got thrown away. Why would anyone do that?
We had meat, vegetables, fruit, bread basically all the food groups when I was a kid. We had chicken nuggets but not every day.
At the present time, stats show anorexia to be the deadliest of the eating disorders, but. I agree that ED NOS is potentially the most dangerous for many reasons.
I wish I had someone like you to help me.
deleted my facebook long ago and i don't miss it in the slightest
Katie is overeating an eating disorder?
I cannot stop. I gained 30 pounds in the last 60 days and most in the last 4 weeks I feeling like I cannot stop. I just finished and I am thinking about next meal or ice cream 😭
Diego Pancho yes overeating is an rleating disorder. It's called binge eating disorder.
Hey that must be hard I’m sorry
Diego Pancho yes
I am depressed all the time, my therapist is not really helping. I tried to stop taking meds but I had a really bad time coming off. so back on the Zoloft again
D: You should never go off mental health medication cold turkey. As you have probably found out, it does a lot of harm. This is because of how mental health meds work - they change hormones around in your brain and your brain gets used to their effects. Once you stop without giving your brain another to supplement (basically you gradually step down from one and gradually - at the same time - take another in increasing doses), your brain goes all crazy and doesn't know what to do for a while. It misfires a lot more than it does before taking the meds until it can get back to what it considers "normal." Stay on your meds until you can get a change from your doctor. If your therapist isn't working out for you, try to find another. It took me a few times to find a right psychiatrist (not a therapist, but same difference). One wanted to give me a lot of meds that made me suicidal and wouldn't really listen when I explained that. So I went to another and then another before I got someone I trust. But that trust is key and if you don't have it with your professional, please find another. The world wants you to live, you are very important to your family and friends. I hope you get the right one soon. :)
Thanks for the reply, I do value your comments.
You're welcome. I know you'll get the help you need and I hope it's not a hard process for you. :)
I am starting to come off all the drugs slowly. Nearly off the diazipam. Nearly off the seriquil. Cutting back on zoloft. Ok so far. Lets hope it stayes that way. I have a new girlfriend, so thats helping.
4 years for me, I have forgotten what "Normal" feels like. I am better than i was but there are days where It takes over
Good video as always,Kati. :-) Awsome that you're having your exam on women's day. Think you're going to do greate!
what if u r 16 yrs old and have been depressed since kindergarten? is that normal?
no
Kim Fishe are you ok?!?
@Rino Raaa its not a competition
I know you posted this four years ago, but I hope that your life has greatly improved since then and that you've found the help and love that you deserve. Wishing you all of the good things in life Kim.
I wish your were my therapist
Thanks Kati, this was great!
As a teacher, as well as someone who has lived through an eating disorder, as well as someone who knows the statistics on how many people are affected by disordered eating, or eating disorders, or body dismorphic disorder,... i just can't understand why teachers would assign an assignment like you are describing here (where students have to track their nutrients or intake or exercise or whatever). It's kind of infuriating actually. I spend a lot of energy when teaching at high schools keeping an eye out for the mental health of students. Because it's MY JOB. And then to have assignments like this be common place? Whatever benefits to physical health might come of understanding the different aspects of nutrition are totally outweighed here by the obsessive and analytical approach. oooooh i'm so mad.
my psych teacher literally told me EDNOS doesn’t exist 😂😂😂
I got excited when I saw you posted.. I didn't really realise how much I missed your videos! Try not to stress too much, your hard work and determination will definitely pay off :) Ps, if you go to Cirque du Solei you should tell us how it was!! I've always wanted to go xx
I am an ex cutter and I kept my blades for a good while after I stopped. Some people cannot let go all at once and for them it has to be a gradual process.
I used to keep my razorblades hidden in a stationary clock and it took me a while to chuck them.
woohoo! awesome vid as always :) good luck w study!!
I'm 30 and I feel like I've been depressed since my teens. I wasn't diagnosed with it formally until I was a young adult. I have to say, I don't even know when the last time I was truly happy. I want to say 12-14, but even then I question that. Some seeds were being sown. I basically think that I started getting depressed sometime between age 13-16 and it just worse overtime.
Thank you to whoever asked question 1 I've been meaning to ask the question I just forget to do it
hi Kati i have a question: what if you have been forced to therapy and you are not ready to recover? im in therapy for my eating disorder and depression but i dont feel ready to give up my eating disorder. its my way of coping and dealing with things and i feel safe with my eating disorder. i have bben in therapy for srveral years same therapist but i feel sometimes i still need to hang on to my eating disorder
Its okay if youre not ready to recover, you will get there! For now maybe just focus on things in therapy that you use your ed to cope with but not your actual ed. I was there too when I started therapy,. No one was going to make me give it up....but in time as I started talking about what was going on in life I found other ways to deal with it besides my ed and it made me feel so much better! Try to find the sources of why you use your ed and other ways to cope that are healthy and in time you will want to let ed go. (:
Hey, I know I'm not Kati. I would just like to help answer the questions. I'm 29 and I want to be a therapist and I recovered from an eating disorder about four years ago.
Do you feel that you and your therapist aren't clicking or is it that you don't feel ready to be in recovery? Your therapist should be giving you coping ideas and checking in with you and see if they are working. If the therapist isn't doing this, try to find a new one. If you just don't feel like you are ready for recovery consider this: nobody ever regrets recovering. Eating disorders take over your brain and distort things. One of the things I think about now is why I didn't try to recover sooner. I would really encourage you to put effort into recovery even if you are scared. Speaking from the other side, eating disorders aren't worth hanging on to. If I can help out at all please let me know. I think of this community everyday.
I taught I had anorexian , then bulimia and than I was healthy a for few months but now I think I have EDNOS
I feel like I’m either recovering and relapsing every 3-4months or I’m just going from 1 extreme of a eating disorder to the other.
you're great. ♡
I had to write down what I ate for a week for some health class. I didn't tell the teacher what I felt about it or anything so I wrote it down. After I was done, she saw that there was barely anything on it and so she had to call my mom because she was worried about me. At first the teacher gave me a bad grade on the assignment but then after talking with her, she changed the grade and was much more understanding.
I didn’t know I had EDNOS until 6 months ago. I’ve had it ever since I was a child, about 11 I think. It’s seriously eye opening to realize this and it sucks but it’s also a relief to know that I’m not some freak. I go through hardcore binge and restrict cycles. Like, there hasn’t been a single DAY since I was 11 where I wasn’t either stuffed to the brim or completely starving. I don’t know what being comfortably full feels like! I’m afraid to reach out to my parents (I’m 20 now) and get help. I’m afraid they won’t believe me or won’t understand. I’m so alone.
3 years ago I told myself I’m going to get abs now I’m just buff constantly overtraining with cycles of eating clean and then binge eating and I’m obsessed with it hopefully it can be fixed
yayy what a wonderful surprise!!! :) good luck for tomorrow (Which is today here)
My eating is disordered but I don't have an eating disorder..I restrict to no more than 700 cal a day and some days I will weight myself and not eat at all until the scale reaches the number I decided to get to even if that means I don't eat for two or three days.....some days I barely brake 200 cal..I have a ton of neurotic habits around food. I almost had a panic attack on a cruise ship because I had to go to the buffay, I avoid those, and they didn't have dessert plates. I never ever serve myself on dinner plates. When I serve myself my food never touches. At least 1/4 of the plate has to be visible when the food is on the plate and I must leave a bite of every food when I am done. But, I am over weight, I never ever bieneg or heaven forbid purge so I am just dieting...but it sure feels crazy out of control to me...
EDNOS is the most *deadly* because it has the most sufferers by far despite killing fewer of its sufferers.
face is a little close😂, amazing video otherwise
lmaooo
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My EDNOS has literally ruined my life... I tried asking for help for so long but because I was still overweight it wasn't enough to get help... Now im 153lbs before I was 200 this ”weight loss” might seem normal but to me its not..... I hate this...
hi Kati, I hope your class went well, It seems like your doing well! Good Luck :)
Missed you!
I was diagnosed with depression when I was 13. I'm 37 so it's been years. Depression isn't a requirement for an eating disorder. So I don't really connect the two.
I don’t really know what my diagnoses is...my doctors records say eating disorder not specified, but my therapist and dietician treat me for anorexia, so I don’t really know what I’ve got!
Kati: "I don't fit into any of the criteria, so I don't have an eating disorder."
Me: YES!! THIS IS ME!!
Kati: But you probably do.
Me: .......oh
good luck on your exam, kati!!!!! i am positive you will ace it the first time. :o)
And I binge, I have tried to purge but I dont think I try long enough bc I can't do it. I binge, then I stop eating and at my old house if I ate more then I wanted I would exercise but now I can't cuz I live in a apartment but if I didn't I would be out exercising like crazy. I would stop eating for a long time too. Is this a Ed and if it is what type is it?
Megan JvR oh okay.. .thank you
@@sem2709 depends on the frequency. If it's several times in at least three months it's non purge bulimia. If it's spread out through a few months it's ednos which is what I am.
I was at and eating disorder recovery Clinic for the past 4 1/2 months and it's great cause I have not purged for nearly 3 months and now I've graduated from the program but I never got therapy for what the root of my problem was. They came at it with the attitude of "You will never get rid of this its just who you are just hold a rock( Or other coping skills) and you will be okay." Is this true? I will never get rid of it? Is it wrong for me too want to get to the root of the issue and solve it at much as I can?
Woop Hi kati hope your not working to hard!! :) good luck for your test don't stress out you're a natural and will be A OK !! Xox
#KatiFAQ I see my therapist tomorrow. I want to tell him that I'm struggling with restricting and fasting, however I'm nervous for what he will do next. I'm currently overweight, he won't put me in a hospital, will he? What might he do?
I need a therapist really bad. One of my issues is extreme anxiety around money. I work 3 jobs and it takes up most of my time. I need to find a way to let go of this anxiety for enough time to fit a therapist into my schedule. This feels kind of hopeless because it would just exacerbate my already existing anxiety that destroys my relationships with the world around me. That first hour isn’t going to fix it, but the entire shift lost because of that scheduling will damage me immensely. What do I do?
#KatiFAQ I have been very depressed in the past couple of month,and sometimes it would affect my apatite i didn't find it a big deal until i saw my weight dropping , a little part of me didn't really care because i was losing weight and i really didn't work on it but as time passed by i found myself cutting down the amount of calories i took daily and ik i made it reach the extremes when i started purging what i ate, like this all started off because i really had no will to eat anymore and food began to disgust me, sometimes i would actually feel nauseous thinking about eating and in my current weight i am satisfied but i want to lose more. i never had any problems towards my weight but i think this losing my apatite triggered me to lose more.
My question is do u think i am developing an eating disorder even tho i didn't want to actually start one sometimes i feel like it came with some kind of flow and now i feel trapped and scared about this.
THANK YOU
Thanks for taking the time to put up a video, even though you're super busy!!
I have a question for next week (#KatiFAQ): Do you think most people that struggle with an ED and/or SH had some kind of difficult/abusive childhood? (It seems that way to me, but I was wondering if you've seen the same thing in your practice) If so, why do you think that is?
ED and SH don't discriminate-they're things that people of all backgrounds can use to try and cope with stuff. I don't know any stats, but illnesses can happen to anyone.
Just got told that I have ednos a few weeks ago. Been trying to do what the therapist and the ED specialist says but one thing is that yesterday was the one year anniversary of my friend being laid to rest 8-3-17 and so now I don't want to eat. #KatiFAQ can a therapist put you into the hospital and force you to eat. She is saying that what I am doing is self harm and I hate that I feel like I am under a microscope. What can I do?
combination of not taking care of diabetes and eating disorder is the most dangerous eating disorder
That's me too.
Wow, I had to write down what I ate in 6th grade for an assignment and I had an eating disorder without knowing it until 9th grade. I didn't realize but that probably triggered something. (I refused to do the assignment at the time just because I hated PE.)
Hey kati, so I went to the doctor today for a check up and i had planned on telling him about feeling depressed, anxiety and everything, but when i was going to tell him, i was just too scared and i got too nervous and totally chickened out. I know i won't be able to get help unless i actually tell them, but i'm so scared. How do i even tell them?
good luck
Hi Kati, maybe you will see this on here before the website, I think you turned off the public chat on your website. maybe it was on purpose, but if not, it would be awesome to have it back on please! :)
I'm not Kati, but there's a new chat set up that I think she's still working on. There's a huge delay on new chat, so I wonder if that's why it's not up and running
I actually haven't watch much reality tv lately. I find that I'm going back to scripted/dramas, documentaries (real reality), and a glorified talent show called, HitRECordonTV.
Comorbide illness ?
Dipherencial diagnose?
What’s EDNOS ?
Eating Disorder Not Otherwise Specified. It's an outdated term though; it's not in the DSM-5. It's called OSFED now, or Other Specified Feeding or Eating Disorder (I know this is six months late, but idk if you ever got your answer)
On the self harm tools, I use to carry my razors around in my purse. People use to be really confused as to why I had a purse full of razors. 😂
I was already three years ago but 4/15 /15 was the day my bottom fell out with a life changing even that took away my purpose:( sooo yeah :(
I just got an official diagnosis of EDNOS today =S
megan JvR aw ;( *hugs* I hope you can find a way to recover, If you wanna chat you can email me; skashax777x@gmail.com
aw Kati I love you!
Hey kati, i was just wondering if I could get some advice. My mom lost her job back in December, my dads job also told him they are not keeping him full time but they didn't give him a end date. I am battleing edons, depression, anxitey, and self harm. I want to get better but I do not have a good relationship with my parents, we no longer have health insurence because that was through my moms work. They know I have dealt with self harm and I have seen 2 different therapist in the past but it never really helped. I just dont know what to do because I cant talk to my parents, the past several times I did and it made everything much worse.
Hi Erica, I have a few possible suggestions for you, having gone through a similar situation myself. Don't be discouraged by the 2 therapists you have seen in the past not helping. Sometimes it takes a few tries to find someone you work well with and trust, it definitely did for me!
if you are still in school, I would definitely urge you to consider reaching out to any school counselors/psychologists/social workers that are available. It might be hard/uncomfortable/awkward at first, but they are there for you as a resource and as a support for you, so it is worth a try.
I know it might be a bit costly especially without insurance at the moment, but perhaps even scheduling an appointment with your GP for a physical (good to have anyway!) and then at that appointment, ask him for some advice on some more resources for you.
Perhaps if needed, a first step to a conversation with your parents if you really need to, and cannot find any other options, would be to ask them to find you some health insurance available for children through your state, if you are in the US, some states have low cost options for children/teens based on family income. That way, you can have the ball rolling to getting insurance for yourself, and possible treatment in the future.
Hang in there. I know how hard it can be, but you can get through this!
Also, check out kati's website, it's a great place to find support from others!
I'm really sorry this has happened!! Do you have someone at school you could talk to? Or maybe a close friend? People do have connections so sometimes sharing with someone you trust can offer other resources to help!
How old are you? I'd like to make suggestions and it would really help if I knew your age. Why do you feel that you cannot talk to your parents?
I am 16, and everytime i have talked to my parents about it in that past they really just made everything worse, and i have never had a good relationship with them at all
Brianna Murray
justagirl1516 everytime i tell my friends about everything they leave, and when i have talked to someone at my school they told my parents and my parents made everything worse
This is another example around 5:35 of how the therapist isn't helping the patient. You can't expect the rest of the world to March around your special eating disorder because calorie counting is "triggering" for you. The therapist should be psychoanalyzing why something is affecting the client (I feel scared or sad or angry when I calorie count because I have a fear of weight gain and hatred of my body, which can be corrected with information and other client focused therapy) not control their environment in a very unsustainable way and shame the wellness professional for doing something that is helpful to everyone. How is information not helping people? You're missing an opportunity to help the patient by exploring their reactions to calorie counting, so the activity is actually helpful to that patient in a way you clearly miss. The live under a rock therapy technique is poor practice.
Furthermore, the fact you're not comfortable, as a therapist, with calorie counting means you are still not done exploring your anger toward calories and body image yourself. The pretend everything is ok approach doesn't fly with most clients, especially ED ones. This is why ED therapy doesn't seem to be effective for a lot of clients. It isn't their values.
It is frustrating that professionals who use calorie counting are shamed by ED therapist as though we are making the problem worse. Lots of ED therapist are no better than right wing Christians trying to convert everyone to their ideology that makes no sense and has more to do with their lack of emotional intelligence and own trauma and ability to process through their own issues with something as science based and objective as calorie counting.
It's like being a climate change denier. Science is real. Your personal beliefs about something objective need to be processed on your own.
@@jrg305 I personally think it really would depend on the client and how far along the road to recovery they are. I mean yeah, calorie counting shouldn't be triggering, it means there's something wrong if it is. But with these people, there _is_ something wrong, and it _does_ trigger them. And depending on how much it does, it'd be a good or a bad idea. EDs are often like an addiction, and you wouldn't say, put a recovering alcoholic in a bar full of alcohol and people drinking said alcohol. Not unless they are ready, not unless they can be stay sober when put in such an enviroment. Otherwise they just shouldn't go there yet. Of course you should look at the issues they're trying to cope with, of course you should look at the twisted beliefs and values and address those. Of course you should look at the reasons why they engage in their disordered behaviour or feel tempted to (such as restricting) and deal with those. But that doesn't mean clients shouldn't try to avoid triggers they can't deal with yet if it's at all possible.
I don't feel like a therapist would give them back.... At least not where I am from....
why're you so close to the camera????
Would your family be ‘allowed’ to take your self harm tools from you ?? Like I said something to my brother and he told on me and him and my mom took them away and then wanted to “interrogate me” if I had more. Thoughts on that??
I believe I have EDNOS but I'm over 300 lbs so I refuse to get help till I'm at a healthy, desirable body size. So I don't consider it an eating disorder.
Yay! :D
I've heard bulimia is the deadliest, anorexia is the deadliest, diabulimia I've heard is the deadliest... make up ur mind people haha.
Back up the camera a bit...looks like a floating head. ML