Really thank you for that good tuto. My 130i had a trouble due to one solenoid, which began just 3 seconds after restarting the engine after an oil changing...
Thanks for all of your videos George, nicely filmed and presented in a calm professional manner. Just got a 130i, had 2A99, replaced solenoid and seems to be good. old one was probably getting damaged by the oil from leaking filter housing gasket, so your video for that will be coming in handy soon! Getting the solenoids back in was an absolute nightmare for me, what worked for me (try at your peril given that you don't want the washer to go into the engine!) was to slip the washer onto the thinner part of the solenoid, put the solenoid half way into the block, then i could easily locate the washer into its home behind the notch, then start pushing the solenoid in, it will require a little force to get the washer back onto the fat part of the solenoid (scary as you can't see if its going to fly into the engine or not), and then it goes right in nicely. I noticed on the oil filter housing video gasket that someone asked about bleeding the system, it would be nice if you could add a note in the description about this, as i expect not everyone reads the comments and might miss out on that kind of useful info.
@@GeorgeAusters not sure its all in my mind. But when cleaning them, feels like I get power back for a few days then its back to being sluggish. I went ahead and changed to new OEM parts the other week. After 1 week of driving it feels completely better then before. Instant torque right at the 2000rpm mark.
Trying to get the vanos out off my 2008 n43 318i, but they just won't go out (probably not removed for long time). I am able to turn them a bit. Any suggestions how to take them out? Many thanks
Just succeed. After driving to shop I waited about 40min, so the engine was still warm and then I used pliers and grabbed the solenoid at the centre (plastic bit) and slightly turning and gently pulling at the same time. To reinstall I had to place the o rings (oiled them before that) in the block first and then solenoid just went back with a bit of a struggle.
I cleaned mine as well and didn't know any improvement. I notice that if you change your oil according to the recommended oil change interval, you will never have to clean them. People who have to clean the solenoids only when they drive on the old oil for more tahn 20k miles. I've seen N52 with 20k mile oil change and their solenoid were clean with no sludge.
Hello I think I overtightened one of the bolts, and it gets tightened somehow, but I can feel it doesn't lock. Just an idea of the tightness I cannot move the bolt with my bare hand, the question is, do you think it would leak?
@@GeorgeAusters I cleaned mines out . And I didn’t have a Service engine Soon light on . But after I put them back . I got the light and I feel like I lost power and the cold start is rough now. I think I might’ve mixed the wires up or something idk. Any idea why that would happen? If I did mix the wires up would the engine even start ? Bc I drive the car for about 2 hrs after .
You won't really clean them without disassembly! The space which gets clogged is near impossible to clean without taking it appart yet doing it is quite easy so don't know why nobody doing prefering half-solutions
I have rough idle and rough start when engine cold,I will try that ,do you know where I can get an nox sensor cheaper,On BMW main dealer is around £450+, thank you
Should these solenoids have oil on them? Mine has quite a bit, the idle isn’t super bad but it’s not great. I have code 2AA9. It said first be smaller disa valve then these solenoids were second cause. So I’m hoping it’s that there just dirty and it will solve it
Hi George, mine seem to be stuck and only rotate a fraction. Not enough to wiggle them out and there's hardly anything to grab onto. Any tips on how to get them out?
Put your hand behind the metal part and wiggle on it don't come out. The metal part is where the bolt screws and the rest of it is plastic so be careful with that part of the battle
*TIP:* Take some fuel and a cup and pour it into the cup. Then connect the solenoid to a 12V power source, amps can be low (a 20 year old phone charger with about 200mA will do fine) and place the solenoid in the cup with the fuel. Now switch the power on and off to force the solenoid to open and close. That way you will flush out all the gung that is stuck inside too. If not then you basically cleaned it just from the outside wich is just half the job. CAREFULL THOU!!! Attach a clip to the end of both wires which will be connected to the pins on the solenoid. DO NOT use the wires to touch the pins while the whole thing is submerged in fuel or else one of those strikes will spark too much and light you up. For the same reason do not do this at your home but somewhere outside with a bucket of water at hand (or a garden hose ready to be used instantly). And no I am not joking :) O rings can be purchased separately or you can order them from a store that sell those for little money which I did and I recommend highly to do this. Even if the old ones are "good" they are probably somewhat hard and their sealing cappabilities are lower. Also when installing it back you may want to put the O ring into the engine opening first and the solenoid second. In some cases you are fine putting them back in together but in most cases you risk damaging the O ring during the installation due to sharp edges around the opening where the solenoid goes. If you lube the whole solenoid with a little bit of engine oil it will slip right in... which may be very helpfull if your workspace is small. BTW once you cleaned the solenoid try to shake it. If it makes a sound you are good. If not then there is still some sticky gunk inside. And don't worry about the solenoid getting damaged as you'd have to smash it with a hammer or drop out of a window in the 20th floor or something. Not saying to not be carefull but merely to not worry too much.
HELP!!!!! One of the rubber gaskets fell into the engine and I can not see or feel it. Some say it's ok, nothing can happen, and others say I have to remove it somehow. Please help me what to do ;-(
@@FPSAnarchy I bought an inspection camera but did not see the o-ring. Drove a few miles, changed oil and oil filter but saw nothing in there. A BMW mechanic said that there is probably no danger as it is not made of metal, and there is very little risk that something serious will happen. Now we have been driving for a week with the car and nothing has happened. I will drive for a month or so, then change the oil and oil filter again. Best regards from SWEDEN ;-)
Really thank you for that good tuto. My 130i had a trouble due to one solenoid, which began just 3 seconds after restarting the engine after an oil changing...
Just brought 325i m sport, oil leaking from vanos solenoid gasket 😁 gota love it ! Thanks again George
Thanks for all of your videos George, nicely filmed and presented in a calm professional manner. Just got a 130i, had 2A99, replaced solenoid and seems to be good. old one was probably getting damaged by the oil from leaking filter housing gasket, so your video for that will be coming in handy soon!
Getting the solenoids back in was an absolute nightmare for me, what worked for me (try at your peril given that you don't want the washer to go into the engine!) was to slip the washer onto the thinner part of the solenoid, put the solenoid half way into the block, then i could easily locate the washer into its home behind the notch, then start pushing the solenoid in, it will require a little force to get the washer back onto the fat part of the solenoid (scary as you can't see if its going to fly into the engine or not), and then it goes right in nicely.
I noticed on the oil filter housing video gasket that someone asked about bleeding the system, it would be nice if you could add a note in the description about this, as i expect not everyone reads the comments and might miss out on that kind of useful info.
Cheers Chris, glad to help. I have made a video on bleeding the coolant on this car :)
Awesome job, thank you. ❤❤
Will be making sure to give mine a clean before they get too bad!
Cheers Joe!
You dont lube the O rings so they don't go back in dry?
Tha~~~~~~~~~~~~ngs to you ❤❤❤❤ I'm success
Love the videos, what did you use to clean the solenoids?
Don't let the BMWDoctor watch this!😁
We both share the same opinion that these need to be replaced when they are bad. But it’s not a bad idea to clean them when they’re working fine👍🏻
Cdr Are you joking or serious?
Lol. He says you cant clean them. I guess when they go bad..
If they’ve failed then they’ve failed not just dirty
@@GeorgeAusters not sure its all in my mind. But when cleaning them, feels like I get power back for a few days then its back to being sluggish. I went ahead and changed to new OEM parts the other week. After 1 week of driving it feels completely better then before. Instant torque right at the 2000rpm mark.
Very good job Thanks for your time Arellano appreciate God bless
Thank you too
Where did you buy new Vanos Solenoids for your 130i that are genuine or oem as I wouldn’t want to buy third party solenoids ??
Should I oil it beforehand?
I think the second gasket is supposed to sit lower on the solenoid. I don't believe they are both supposed to be at the top.
Great vid! Thanks alot.
Trying to get the vanos out off my 2008 n43 318i, but they just won't go out (probably not removed for long time). I am able to turn them a bit. Any suggestions how to take them out? Many thanks
Just succeed. After driving to shop I waited about 40min, so the engine was still warm and then I used pliers and grabbed the solenoid at the centre (plastic bit) and slightly turning and gently pulling at the same time. To reinstall I had to place the o rings (oiled them before that) in the block first and then solenoid just went back with a bit of a struggle.
I cleaned mine as well and didn't know any improvement. I notice that if you change your oil according to the recommended oil change interval, you will never have to clean them. People who have to clean the solenoids only when they drive on the old oil for more tahn 20k miles. I've seen N52 with 20k mile oil change and their solenoid were clean with no sludge.
Oil needs to be changed every 5k Miles
I have p0013 code on my 08 bmw 528i is it the solenoid??
Veru helpful thanks
THANKS!
Hello I think I overtightened one of the bolts, and it gets tightened somehow, but I can feel it doesn't lock. Just an idea of the tightness I cannot move the bolt with my bare hand, the question is, do you think it would leak?
Just needs 10NM
I have also done this too myself very easy too do;) thnxs!
You’re welcome brother!
If I mix the solenoids up will I throw a code or are they the same? How can I tell the difference? Thank you
Solenoids are the same but the plugs need to go to the correct solenoid
@@GeorgeAusters I cleaned mines out . And I didn’t have a Service engine Soon light on . But after I put them back . I got the light and I feel like I lost power and the cold start is rough now. I think I might’ve mixed the wires up or something idk. Any idea why that would happen? If I did mix the wires up would the engine even start ? Bc I drive the car for about 2 hrs after .
Thanks for your great work 👍
Dunno what I’d do without you Rocky! 👊🏻
Hello!If I understand right I can use brake cleaner.
Yes
You won't really clean them without disassembly! The space which gets clogged is near impossible to clean without taking it appart yet doing it is quite easy so don't know why nobody doing prefering half-solutions
Is there a video or how to do that
@@340i_Mo With disassembly? Haven't seen any. But it's not really complex to require video imo
Very Nice George only one tip use gloves mate
I do now👌🏼
Great, thank you
I have rough idle and rough start when engine cold,I will try that ,do you know where I can get an nox sensor cheaper,On BMW main dealer is around £450+, thank you
Should these solenoids have oil on them? Mine has quite a bit, the idle isn’t super bad but it’s not great. I have code 2AA9.
It said first be smaller disa valve then these solenoids were second cause. So I’m hoping it’s that there just dirty and it will solve it
Yes
@@GeorgeAusters
Okay awesome thanks for replying so quickly, is it okay if there is oil then too on where you plug them in? So I leave that alone?
Hi George, mine seem to be stuck and only rotate a fraction. Not enough to wiggle them out and there's hardly anything to grab onto. Any tips on how to get them out?
Put your hand behind the metal part and wiggle on it don't come out. The metal part is where the bolt screws and the rest of it is plastic so be careful with that part of the battle
I think this solves a jerky diesel engine with boost loss
Is okay if I don’t remove the pipe before I take out the vanos solenoids? Thanks
Yes
*TIP:* Take some fuel and a cup and pour it into the cup. Then connect the solenoid to a 12V power source, amps can be low (a 20 year old phone charger with about 200mA will do fine) and place the solenoid in the cup with the fuel. Now switch the power on and off to force the solenoid to open and close. That way you will flush out all the gung that is stuck inside too. If not then you basically cleaned it just from the outside wich is just half the job. CAREFULL THOU!!! Attach a clip to the end of both wires which will be connected to the pins on the solenoid. DO NOT use the wires to touch the pins while the whole thing is submerged in fuel or else one of those strikes will spark too much and light you up. For the same reason do not do this at your home but somewhere outside with a bucket of water at hand (or a garden hose ready to be used instantly). And no I am not joking :)
O rings can be purchased separately or you can order them from a store that sell those for little money which I did and I recommend highly to do this. Even if the old ones are "good" they are probably somewhat hard and their sealing cappabilities are lower. Also when installing it back you may want to put the O ring into the engine opening first and the solenoid second. In some cases you are fine putting them back in together but in most cases you risk damaging the O ring during the installation due to sharp edges around the opening where the solenoid goes. If you lube the whole solenoid with a little bit of engine oil it will slip right in... which may be very helpfull if your workspace is small.
BTW once you cleaned the solenoid try to shake it. If it makes a sound you are good. If not then there is still some sticky gunk inside. And don't worry about the solenoid getting damaged as you'd have to smash it with a hammer or drop out of a window in the 20th floor or something. Not saying to not be carefull but merely to not worry too much.
What issues can a dirty or bad solenoid give you?
Rough idle and delayed acceleration to name 2 things
I had rough idling almost mist fire codes 2c58 and 2d55
Almost felt like a bad mad sensor and it would go low enough to bog
@@n54mikey18 what did you do then?? With the solenoid ??
Are these different or the same types?
Same part number
@@GeorgeAusters Thanks much!
Do you really have to torque it to spec?
Best to!
Hello George, woth is simtoms bad vanos solenoid?thanks
Watch my rough idle video👍🏻
Thanks George
Welcome bro!
👍🏼
Can I clean them with WD40?
If you like
@@GeorgeAusters where do I find the vanos on my F20 116 pertrol
Are these on a diesel N
47????
Luckily not. Diesels don’t have Vanos... They have Turbos😃
You didnt even clean the actual inside of the solenoid??
HELP!!!!!
One of the rubber gaskets fell into the engine and I can not see or feel it.
Some say it's ok, nothing can happen, and others say I have to remove it somehow.
Please help me what to do ;-(
The o-ring.
what did u end up doing
@@FPSAnarchy I bought an inspection camera but did not see the o-ring. Drove a few miles, changed oil and oil filter but saw nothing in there. A BMW mechanic said that there is probably no danger as it is not made of metal, and there is very little risk that something serious will happen. Now we have been driving for a week with the car and nothing has happened. I will drive for a month or so, then change the oil and oil filter again.
Best regards from SWEDEN ;-)
@@MikaelJulin How is it now? :D
👍🏼👍🏼
Easier access if top engine cover removed, only bit of plastic takes 10secs to pull off. Nice video otherwise!
Yeah you also need to remove the scuttle panel etc too on the 1 series to remove the engine cover
Or just take cover off...