Glock Fanboys Beware! The Sig P320 Is Just Better
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Yall gotta know by now getting the Glock fanboys to respond is too easy. Lol whatever you like bro it's all good with me.. but the P320 is better 👊🤘
Admittedly I'm a glock fanboy but I can acknowledge how great other guns are too. The 320 has a better trigger and better oem sights but glock reliability, aftermarket support, and price is what makes them the best option for me. Love your videos and keep it up buddy
@@trevordelarosa3599 Thanks man 👊
As much as i use the G17 for my 9mm, but actually do like different sidearms for different calibers and ergonomics, I definitely love different sidearms, especially the FN 5.7 💯👌🏾
Haha as long as you don’t drop it otherwise it might go off. Don’t get me wrong I like both but if you look into the facts sig only won because they were the cheaper option.
Absolutely 🤙🏻👊🏻
They're great for room clearing, just throw it in like a frag grenade.
😂 Well done
LOL, that's a good one
Lol
LOL maybe the sear will fail and go full auto when you do so, wouldn't surprise me.
Man that had on the floor. Wasn’t expecting that joke.
This is the problem with Sig guys, their entire existence revolves around explaining why Sigs are better than Glocks.
Guess you’ve never heard anybody that owns a glock talk about why they only own glock pistols.
@OI No he's right, there's loads of people out there that talk in similar fashions about glocks vs other pistols, tl;dr "glock perfection" is what they say
@STORMFRONT•1870 hot take, I don't own any Walther firearms, so I can't really weigh in.
@@ThrashTillDeth85 You are right. I own many pistols, and all of the companies have ridiculous fanboys. Glock, Sig, Magnum Research, Colt.
@OI you didn’t have to do the man that dirty😂 🥵 🔥
Guns don’t kill people, people kill people…
SIG: Hold my beer…
😂
Unless this gun randomly shoots you. Look up drop test and look up all the reports of it discharged in a holster
@Aaron Chacon that was the joke 😁
@@blackticalmayhem8461I love when people leave these comments. Like ahh you made an interesting point look up the thing you’re referring too
@@aaronchacon400bro, did u just mansplain a joke? Some things just don't need to be explained. I'll bet you explain things even when no one asked, because no one definitely asked on this joke
Pretty sure Glock isn't being sued right now for selling guns that fire without pulling the trigger.
They have been though.
@@96stealth when
@@mountsj Ever heard of Glock leg or hip? There’s a reason for that and Glock has had a plethora of lawsuits for all kinds of different reasons.
My personal favorite is the cop who stored his loaded Glock under his drivers seat and his kid who was in the back seat shot him through the seat. He sued Glock and they settled out of court. Unsupported chamber lawsuits mostly due to reloading, but can still happen with factory ammo.
At the end of the day all manufacturers have been sued and typically just settle out of court. There’s an easy fix for the P320 problem and they refuse to fix it. Totally unacceptable and they should be called out for that.
Brand loyalty is just showing people’s insecurities. Just like the car they own or whatever. Nothing magical about either brand. I have a love/hate relationship with both.
@@96stealth no, I haven't. And I'm not interested in some made up term someone used to justify a ND. You said they've been sued, cite a case.
@@mountsj If you have never heard of that, then either you’re new to guns or don’t actually participate in it much. Is it overblown? Obviously, but there’s always a grain of truth to it. It’s not hard to believe that the most popular gun being holstered by novice people in the 80s & 90’s produced negligent discharges. It’s also not hard to believe that people sue companies for mistakes they made. I’m not going to do all kinds of research for you, but I will post some links for you to read in a separate post because RUclips doesn’t allow links. Maybe you can click on them in your feed.
And it shoots by itself
@Thorn in the side 😭😭
Yea that’s scary…
😂😂
@@Aleks9x19 youre talking about the gen 1 glock 17, the first model glock ever made. This is sigs NEWEST gun, not there first model, they should know how to make a safe gun now.
@@starboy3735 But the P320 is the first model. It's their very first Stricker fire hand gun.
If you walk down stairs with it holstered, it will ventilate your thigh for you.
lol
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Never heard of a safety
They fixed that problem in 2017, and no one can recreate the issue at hand in a controlled environment, so it's more likely user error. At least no one has shot themselves trying to disassemble a sig
AND it shoots without even having to pull the trigger. Amazing!
😂
That's the myth isn't it?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No.
@@johnhatchel9681yes.
“The army issues it” isn’t the defense you think it is bud.
I was just about to say 🤣 anything "military issue" is pretty ehhhhhh
But no Sig overall is Superior to Glock but yeah
@@Martin-or4gt Thats why SOCOM requested the SIG specifically by name.
Wait….no, that was Glock.
I've heard active service members call their rifles pieces of garbage😂🤣
@@Tombstone_Active marine special forces also use Colt m45 1911s, idk of they still do, but there is a reason they wanted them in the past few years.
I'm a fan of yours but saying that this handgun was chosen as a military sidearm just means it was built by the lowest bidder. Don't get me wrong I like the 320 but it's gonna take a little more than a government contract to dethrone the king of the polymer framed guns
Not necessarily true.
I have the P320 and Glock 45 MOS. I prefer the Glock 😂. Sits better, recoils fine, and the trigger is good outta the box, but I installed a Flat Faced Apex trigger on my G45. Still better outta the box IMO
@@ItsWoadie that's awesome I have a regular G45 and I love it. How do you like that apex trigger? I want one real bad for mine
@@trevordelarosa3599 works wonders bro. The pull is lighter, and the reset is crisp. I’m actually contemplating switching up and getting a JOHNNY GLOCKS EVOLUTION X DROP-IN COMBAT TRIGGER SYSTEM instead of my Apex, but it’s 300$ lol so I gotta wait. Other than that I highly recommend the G45 compatible Apex Trigger for starters.
Local police department replaced Glocks with Sigs, at a cost of 25% more, but wiht a 10 year service life, versus just 4 for the Glock. So not always lowest bidder.
I hate how toxic every single hobby gets. You like what you like.
Facts 💯
Relax that’s what gives you something to talk about, it’s not like he said if you don’t like this gun you’re a PoS. Sensitive much
*r/airsoftcirclejerk has entered the chat*
Like them both.
Get into the hobby of Buddhism and you won’t care anymore
Glock be livin in yo head rent free
It’s a tactic to build traffic and everyone clearly took the bait. 😢
@@ArdoRdot true, but that just means more folk are reading these comments💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Yep just posted something like.
You forgot the part where it just goes off by itself. Lol
That issue was addressed and fixed in 2017, your argument is invalid
Even as a Glock guy, I agree with most of those points. However the fact that sig won the military contract isn’t really a selling point. Sig lowered their price to be more competitive. Doesn’t really equate to a better gun.
That’s not true the military is paying more for the sigs than they would the glocks
@@Hexrax
People love to look around fact checking, lol.
Glock also was willing to lower their price in bulk for the X.
@@Hexrax But the CZ won they just wouldn’t drop price
@@TheSublimeLifestyle we all know CZ won
@@lawoftheland5923 i’ll tell you firsthand the CZ was liked it wasn’t that liked tho. It also wasn’t the most practical out of the choices. Nor did it meet all the criteria. It came in overweight as well. The cc was more liked then the sig though. And it made a good impression on most the Soldiers and Marines doing the testing since most of them have never touched a CZ before
I like both Glocks & Sigs, but if I could only have one to go into war with I'd take a G19 or 17 over that anyday. To each's own.
That G 21 a bad man too
It would be a tough choice between my trusted 1911 or an Hk P30ls or the vp9
If you’d carry it for over 40 miles on foot, definitely get the g19!
Smart man
@@rockybalboa2392 any full size or g19 size will do... As long as it says glock on the side
Sounds like all the recruiters blabbing to me after I told them I already joined the Marine Corps.
Semper Fi says a Glock guy!
JSOC is sticking with our Glocks. We turned down the Sig.
The amount of time Glocks be mentioned just makes me realize how good they actually are
Lol 😂
Facts, I have the 19 Gen 5. Best hang gun I’ve ever owned hands down. I own ruger, smith and Wesson, colt, beretta and SIG’s and my Glock 19 Gen is my absolute favorite.
@@blueberryog69 You ain't gots to lie Craig.
@@darkdayzdawn4984 go to my page clown 🤡
Living in people’s heads rent free.
*hits road bumps
*round goes into thigh
Competing with a firearm that started production in 1982 is sigs greatest achievement
The P320? SOF used a P226 before the Glock bro!
Glock is safer, lower bore axis and cheaper mags
Cheaper mags and bore axis is why i carry my Glock over my Sig 50 for a mag is ridiculous and the grip angle is awful
I mean at least no one has shot themselves trying to disassemble a p320
@@son.of.a.caveman8847 completely user error and Glock isnt the only striker fired handgun that requires you to drop the striker
@straight6fords580 this is a video comparing glock and sig, not glock vs the world. I was stating a key difference between glock and sig
@@son.of.a.caveman8847 I was also stating that your comparison was idiotic and providing evidence as to why it was Glock is no more dangerous than Sig if handled by a competent individual. If someone shoots themselves disassembling a firearm it is 100% the users fault and not the design of the gun
“17 rounds on tap.” Immediately shoots a 15 round mag.
Its a 17 round mag he loaded 15
The Army wouldn't have wanted it if going off without pulling the trigger was that much of a problem
Yeah… however the Glock doesn’t have a history of firing without the trigger being pulled like the P320 does (in military, law enforcement and civilian cases). Still up until now, Sig has lawsuits against them for this.
Once Sig left the German factories their quality has gone way down.
This is a fact, I saw an article ab an Oklahoma police officer whose p320 went off while holstered, dude had to have surgery in his leg and shit it severed an artery. Glock is superior
Yes it does lmaooo glocks have had multiple cases of guns going off on their own they even been sued by a whole police department before
We not gonna talk about how the grip the trigger and the sights on Glock guns are trash. I may be a little biased whereas I prefer anything over Glock and I've owned one. To me they are SUPER overrated.
@@freddiebinthaplace2be634 yea
.. the no safety factor is what makes me so angry
@@mdub6794 no they have a safety trigger firing pin safety and drop safety. But I know what you mean guns without a manual safety just seem less safe than me.
Sigs are the only guns I’ve ever owned as safe queens that are cleaned after every outing and still manage to have failures.
As long as you're not the cop that doesn't clean his Glock and gets embarrassed by the hk guys when it stove pipes every other shot
I'm confused why you would treat a p320 as a safe queen
@@razorfame9523 I didn’t realize there were hk fanboys out there still
@@TheKeilanm bro idk what kind of life you live but 99% of privately owned guns in the self defense role are basically safe queens. Tucking your gun into your waistband for a few hours a day and then putting it on your nightstand is not a very stressful life for your firearm and there should be almost no reason why they fail assuming you are using quality ammo. Had a Sig 556 (old school) that failed on me and the gas valve was incorrectly drilled at the factory so high was low and low was high. Then later on I wanted to get into 1911s and got one of the nicer Sig 1911s and I could barely get a mag through without a malfunction. When the 320 series came out I was curious and then the drop failures surfaced and I passed. I know there are millions of happy Sig owners out there but I guess I was just the unlucky few.
@@USArmyZ28 I have had some of the exact same issues man. I bought the old school 556. She was temperamental and wanted the right ammo and mags, which is not what you want with a rifle like that. Bought the sig911 tacops and I sold it. It didn’t ever fail but wasn’t super nice. I kept going with sig and I’m glad I did. The mcx platform has impressed me and is ultimately reliable. The rattler is my truck gun. And I love the p220 match elite stainless almost better than my mark23 for a 45. And I also tried the p320. I bought the 320 xfive legion. It doesn’t fail and is pretty amazing. The mark 25 they make is amazing as well. They did lay some eggs and it hurt guys like me that can’t afford a ton of guns. But I’m a happy sig owner now. Give them a chance on the stuff i mentioned. It’s good kit
It even comes standard with it's own Alec Baldwin trigger setup
That’s the gun that’s been discharging while holstered, yea I’ll keep my Glock
Price bud is the difference I’d rather spend $500 than almost a $1K and still have the same reliability accuracy and more interchangeable parts and aftermarket goodies
Love how nobody has a valid response to this😂
@@JAAnewboy that is a valid response?
Mine was $600
The P320 is closer to 600 than 1000. You might be thinking for the FN 509, which to me is not worth the $1000+ price tag with that garbage stock trigger
@@JAAnewboy Youre looked at the same way as kids who have modded civics
I would never have the thought that the sig p320 was “one of the best, if not, the best handgun on the planet.”
You’re either getting a little carried away in all of your excitement, or you haven’t shot nice pistols before. Even Sig makes way better pistols than their very own P320.
He is trolling
P225 Legion 🤤
@@EnjoyLife2100 p320 xfive legion is my new edc
It is one of the best combat handguns.
I would argue that a P320 X5 Legion is the best shooting pistol under $1,000 by far. Bought mine for $900 the other day and it shoots on par with my Marine buddy's modified 1911.
Glock: Lego
P320: mega bloks
I will always laugh at the military contract argument. They don’t care about good, they care about cheap.
Better is subjective. All that matters is that you carry every day.
You don’t carry shit
Biden 2020 beech
@@realrareap2420 troll
Alot of "Gun Enthusiasts" don't know what subjective means though
Glock doesn’t have a history of negligent discharge because of poor engineering.
You can get MOS glocks that Have all the same features and getting aftermarket custom parts is 2000x easier with any glock model.
What exactly does sig do better? Unless it’s personal preference for how it feels in your hand, glock does it better.
False. Glock did have negligent discharge issues until 1992. Sooooo. That's awkward.
@@gh0st-6 Almost as if all firearm manufacturers have issues at one point or another. People need to stop having brand loyalty.
@@gh0st-6 oh wow over 30 years ago a start up gun company had issues that crazy.
That is absolutely no where near as sever as sig having issues in today age. Good try tho.
@@gh0st-6 Yeah almost 30 years ago Glocks has negligent discharge problems but it was only about 3 years ago that Sig had their issues. The Humble Marksman put it well that high reliability is the new industry standard.
Same features?? Glock is modular without tools?? 🤨
They fixed the issue were these would fire when dropped years ago. 😂😂
Glocks don't shoot you unexpectedly
No factory firearm does.
@@ORam...No factory cigs police used ever shot them nope. There's not multiple lawsuits from multiple agencies on SIG...
@@ORam...the sig p320 has been known to go off by itself inside holsters. Sig will pay you money and make you sign a nda so you can't talk about, but I've heard glocks have been blowing up recently, so idk what's going on with qc on both lately.
@@professored7169 That's what people have reported. But, and I mean this respectfully, doesn't it sound more logical that these people blame the firearm or manufacturer for their own mistake rather than admit that they made, what would seem to them, an embarrassment mistake? The problem wound up a light trigger that would go off with an impact of a certain degree. If they go off by themselves, why hasn't anyone reported them dry firing while on the shelf, or in the gun store? Or for that matter, not one video? Sorry for the novel, but it seems that not too many people consider these things or know certain facts. Again, respectfully. Be safe.
Glocks have too sir 😂😂😂
I disagree. As much as I tried, I can’t get over the recoil impulse, grip angle, and how high it sits in the hand. To each their own
It is much different and I personally don’t like the impulse either. However I’m so accurate with it lol
With you on that brother , he might want to give that sig the hammer test heard a few reviews about this issue of them firing while being struck or bumped against some issue with the striker?
@@peterjohnson5268 has that happened with the new ones too?
@@peterjohnson5268 has that happened with the new ones too?
@@jamesdees6166 It happened before the M17 and M18 came out they fixed it before their release
So much better in fact, it shoots all by itself without the user even needing to press the trigger! What will the geniuses at SIG think of next?
You clearly don’t know how the gun works
Imagine actually believing this
@@jasonstem4378 Hes another fool who doesnt know how the 320 parts works.
So you've seen this happen?
@@PNWhashmits No he hasn’t. He just repeats what he hears on the internet. People dont know how the 320 mechanism works. Its impossible for it to shoot by itself as with pretty much all guns.
"Drop testing?! I thought you said stop testing!"🤣
Definitely didn't get the contract because they quoted $80 per unit.
When you can’t promote your pistol without mentioning Glock there is something to be said about that.
The Military just bought 15 million dollars worth of Glocks.
Really? Where did you hear that
Which military???
@@kennethbaillif5838 US
Yeah they bought them and gave them to ISIS 🇺🇸.
@@trevordelarosa3599 google some
as a Glock owner, I fired my brother-in-law’s P320 back in November, and jesus I fell in love with it, very comfortable and handled well. I still love my Glock but his P320 had a certain feel to it that was like butter💯
Lmao "it's the side arm of the army" the government sure does pick a lot of good things, like taxing me
I prefer almost anything to Sig to be honest. Their pistols are so tall and the recoil impulse feels like a boat rocking back and forth.
I just doesnt shoot as fast for me as like a glock, m&p, cz, hk, walther, etc
Me personally I literally noticed no recoil difference between my Glock 17 and my sig p320 this Sig has a better trigger that makes my grouping a little tighter but it's nothing to right home about I will say though the ergonomics in my baby manlet hands definitely fits better with the Sig.
@@Artisanal-Autism my trigger pull on my Glock 17 is 4 almost to 5 pounds that p320 tho is 6.5 to 7.5 if you look it up stock no trigger upgrades that 2 to almost 3 pounds will do a difference trying to shoot rapid fire but me personally like a nice trigger pull like 5 pounds is solid! They have upgrades to make it like 2 pounds but to me that’s looking like a misfire waiting to happen
Bro what ? My sig shoots fast ash, my trigger is damn near like a hair trigger from factory. I’ve never experienced that with glock
@@treyon9190 a double action trigger shoots faster 🤣yaaaa okkkkkk
@@jared712 oh... you don't know what you're talking about the p320 isn't a double action trigger you're thinking of the p226 from my experience all my Glocks triggers have a factory trigger of four to six pounds usually 6 pounds
We all know Glock 19x would of won if the army wasn’t so cheap 😙😙
The Glocks are cheaper 😂
@@dylanhicks8895 no they aren’t lmao bro you can build these shits with a 3D printer lol
@@glock1inthetop45 are you trying to say that Glocks don't have a polymer frame???
Because clearly you don't know what you're talking about they can both be printed.
@@dylanhicks8895 plus these guns look cheap af look at them
@@dylanhicks8895 p320 frame are weak compared to p80 frames especially glock frames
this aged well
Nothing better then a gun that shoots when it feels like it
Nightmare of a soldier surrounded. Any weapon becomes this color.
Using government contracts to justify why a certain firearm is “better” than another is a pretty weak argument, branding and preferences aside.
That's why you look at what the more elite units use rather than the standard issue. Standard issue will always be the cheapest one that is still reliable, but special forces/SEALs/etc get to pick the best without worrying about price. MARSOC and Delta use Glock 19. SEALs, SAS, Canadian SF, Israeli SF, US Secret Service, Texas Rangers, US Marshall's, and many more use the P226/P228/P229.
@@alexandramarberry1023 and the 1911 😉
@@gincream1993 nice pfp
@@alexandramarberry1023 nahh. Glock is outdated and doesn’t accommodate optics as easily. Maybe you were right in 1980 pal!! The FN and SIGs dominate the pistol category for US SPEC OP and MARSOC. So nice try know it all kiddo.
@@alexandramarberry1023 the future for pistols is currently suppressors and optics. Glocks specialize with neither out of the box. Go home and cry about your 1980s junk.
I heard that those Sigs have an auto priming feature, you don't even have to pull the trigger to shoot. Nice!
Lmao
Lol! I know they fixed that issue but it would make me feel weird pointing one of these at my dic while conceal carrying.
dangerous water gun
Rick for the win 🏆
@@cd4playa1245 i never reholster appendix always take the holster off put the gun in then clip it back on my belt. tacticool guys in youtube vids love jamming loaded guns into the holster as fast as possible for some reason, asking to be castrated
Also, the base model P320 doesn’t come with night sights or an optic cut. Oh, and always remember, the government will always buy what they can get the best deal on, not what’s best for the troops.
It “took over” because sig was the lowest bidder.. I participated in the pistol and holster trials.. the sig was an absolute fail when it came to frequency of maintenance & parts replacement.. but.. LOWEST BIDDER WINS! The M17 is hot garbage.. hell, the pistols that were used STRICTLY for holster trials (not a single round fired) were falling apart..
👆This guy knows what he's talking about. Thats exactly right. It went to the lowest bidder. No one really ever talks about that . But correct none the less.
For the price sig charges that's horrible..firearms just falling apart without even being fired?? That's pathetic..il stick with a six round revolver thanks
BULLAST ? More like bullshit Son.
Trials are more than just lowest bids.
I don't even like the Sig but I don't like a liar either.
The blind fan bois will embrace it tho so enjoy.
@@jdubskiwright2380 Do you honestly believe that?
Seriously just holsters use and they "fell apart" ?
I think someone is full of shit.
@@rsrs5644 FYI some firearms are made like crap. And yes il take a 6 or 8 shot revolver any day over a 15 or 17 round automatic because for 1 I don't need 15 or more rounds I'm not an idiot that just shots at everything and hits nothing, and revolvers are definitely better than automatics because 99 out of 100 times that auto will jam up or malfunction in some way or another and the revolver almost never will... Obviously you need to watch the video again because yes the sig saur was falling apart before the test could even be completed...
As someone in the Army who’s fired this handgun I can attest that I hate it. Fresh out of the box first time firing and I had two failures to extract. That and the slide won’t go all the way forward into battery sometimes and you get this weird half cock situation going on. Not a fan
Army here as well this thing is a sack of shit 😭
Yah im also hearing that it doesnt perform well when it gets dusty compared to a glock that can perform when dusty
Just because the army “adopted” it doesn’t mean it’s the best choice…
Exactly, it was the cheapest choice and it shoots people by itself 😂😂😂😂😂 👎🏾
@@Crookedletta601kinda makes you wonder wtf is going on and why our military did this
@@xxskitsxx15a general became an exec at sig. that's all i need to know
@@Crookedletta601 Outdated news in the las t part, and I thought it was proven that in most cases it was ND
@@xxskitsxx15 Exactly….
As someone who was in the army during the MHS competition, the only reason Sig m17 & m18 were selected is because Sig cut their price down by a third of what Glock was asking for and some brass thought it was better because you can pull the trigger group out making it “easier to service” the pistol. Glock won the competition but Sig won the contract because they cut the price wayyyyy down.
P.S. I owned a stock M18, a heavily modified M18 and a stock 19x. All I have now is a 19x because it is better. Point blank period. It is lighter, easier to field strip and clean, it has never jammed or misfired (both M18’s have).
Military Grade: Government overpaid for the cheapest junk they could find that works 40%-60% of the time. Then slap bandaids on it when it fails to perform to make it semi functional again.
The army didn’t choose it because it was better, it was the cheaper option that checked all the boxes. With that said, my swisher sweet but my sig sauer.
Glocks are cheaper buddy..
@@j.johnson6548 on the civilian market, yeah. But the price glock quoted the army was higher per gun than sigs quote. That's a fact. And if you know anything about the military, you know every contract goes to the cheapest bidder.
@@mainnn113 sound like every glock boy no it beat it in the test and was cheaper
Suicideboys reference and i love it! This made me happy, also one pf my favorites right now
But didn't the sigs have better features tho? And more?
Like manual safety, optic ready, etc
Glocks are safer and built better, and they don't fire when dropped. Sig Sauer is not as all a better gun, and saying it was chosen by the Army (only because they went with the lowest bidder and chose Sig, even though Sig cheaped out on quality to have the Army choose them) is not a valid reason at all for them being "better", which is statistically untrue, as seen in the far better craftsmanship in Glocks over Sig handguns.
The drop safety issues have been fixed for a couple years now.
Cheaper didn’t really have anything to do with Sig vs Glock. 19x was disqualified almost immediately because the army said they wanted a modular gun, removing VP9 and 19x from consideration quickly.
@@dustinmeans8856 I love when people say "the lowest bid" as if the army doesnt buy expensive ass optics and other gear. You seem to be the only one in the comments to understand that other guns were disqualified.
@@rustyshackleford4514 The army buys expensive optics and gear because they realize that no matter how little they want to spend, "Just as good" doesn't work when it comes to optics. They would 100% love to pay holosun prices instead of putting aimpoints and acogs on every rifle, but you know why they don't? because anything cheaper will not work at the levels they plan to use them at. Your holosun, your sig red dot, your sightmarks, your primary arms, etc. will all fail multiple units before what they currently use will. So the army understood that having to pay triple or quadruple for an acog that will last 20 years is better than a shitty optic that they have to replace every few weeks.
@@dustinmeans8856 Glock made their gun modular, they even put a safety on it. Was literally only about money
And you drop it and it shoots your buddy on the leg 💯
*LOL...THE TOP BRASS ADOPTED THE SIG DUE TO IT BEING CHEAP AND HAD A SAFETY. THE SIG HAS A HIGHER BORE AXIS THEN THE GLOCK, WHICH MEANS THE SIG HAS MORE MUZZLE FLIP, ESPECIALLY IF YOUR USING A 10MM AUTO. CHEAP SOMETIMES CAN BE A GOOD THING THOUGH, BUT NOT ALWAYS.*
I carry one of these on duty and I can confirm it’s actually shit
@Boppins Glocks get handed to 8 people over 30 years, get sold as surplus police trade ins and still run flawlessly, that's the difference.
@Boppins no one cares what it looks like. Functionality and reliability are the only things that matter in a gunfight, pertaining to this subject.
Glock FTW!! 🎉
@Boppins Did you say glocks have no style? They are the first striker fire pistol and have the iconic square slide. Your trippin
@@nightnday6675 The striker-fired P-08 served Germany's armed forces in two world wars. Around the same time, John Browning designed and patented a striker-fired pistol. It would be manufactured by Fabrique Nationale (FN) in Belgium as the model 1900.
If it’s so good why did the rangers and SF just sign a 15 million dollar contract to Glock?…
I’m guessing you are one of those guys who like to dress tactical huh?
@@Patriot27922😅a SF units use the crap out of their guns they want the best equipment u make zero sense
I have never bought a glock but could tell you the only reason the army didn’t give the contract to glock is the price. How many law enforcement officers use glocks?
The best feature about it is you don't even have to pull the trigger for it to fire.... I'll stick with my glocks
“Adopted by the military” isn’t really a selling point. It’s not like they choose the best gun, they choose the lowest bidder.
"This gun is just better"... yeah, because guns should fire without pulling the trigger. 😂🤣😂🤣 have fun being SIG's beta test for the umpteenth time. Hope you enjoy NDs to the knee.
Oh, and before anyone starts crying about that, it's well documented. The army had to issue an upgrade just to make it suitable for duty use. The only reason it was chosen over the 19x was cost- everyone that actually knows how the military works knows that standard issue equipment is made by the lowest bidder, not necessarily the best for the job. There's a very good reason why SF units across all branches opt for the G19 or G17 over the 320/M17.
Didn't they need 2 upgrades? There's numerous reports of the 320 firing on its own, firing when dropped, the optics plates just falling off, and I think I've heard other complaints, but tbh can't remember at the moment.
And yea, just about every new Sig design of the past 10 or 20 years has been absolutely garbage until they have the 3rd or 4th round of fixes. I'm glad I waited to buy my P365 as they have been absolutely plagued with issues, like every other Sig these days.
Agree 100%
@@Funhaus_Ryan - yes I think it was 2 upgrades. The first month they had all kinds of issues. I think on guy actually had it go off in the holster.
I own 11 sig pistols, will never buy a p320 or p320 variant. N o p e.
Yeah they a problem in the beginning but that was a few years ago. “ Documented” it’s been fixed. Sig pistols are better.
Yeah the Army has EXTERNAL SAFETY for 1 reason. They want their TROOPS SAFE. You dont mention that. I will stick with my HK VP9 & Live to see another day
They do shoot well, but it’s hard to say it’s better when gunsmiths report countless problems with them and the numerous reports of them shooting without the trigger being pulled. Several of the cases were caught on video. The military has reported breakages and issues with them as well.
The SIG P320 a gun that had a “voluntary upgrade” aka RECALL because it fired when dropped. A gun that is filled with MIM parts from IndioMetal in India and Israel.
Not that Glock’s don’t have MIM parts but their’s are done right. And the Glcck system has been refined and proven over 40 years with police, military, and the public.
SIG P320 has been out what 7 years?
Take your SIG P320 and run your fingernail across the plastic frame and watch how easily it scratches.
There a reason the plastic grip frames are cheap and easily replaceable.
And just for the record I’ll take a Beretta 92 over both.
My man!
Yeah well nobody wants a m9 and the newer variants released. Not to mention the Taurus 92 is superior to even an inox. Sig Perfection.
Ooohhhh that 92 is a good choice. 😏 Currently own one never had a single problem never had a bullet jam nothing. Also fired so many rounds out of it. A great quality handgun
Beretta 92 is super fun to shoot it’s just super ugly to me in my opinion😭except the tan one
You guys all have very intriguing opinions on the 92 series however M9, or the rounded trigger guard version that a lot of people seem to like being the 92A1, 92X, 92X performance series (although in the more expensive side), but basically all handguns have their ups and downs I mean the M17 looks great not gonna lie and the internals seem easy to handle sure, glock is great too although more on the basic side of things but the key difference to all these guns are their striker/hammer based platform and if they utilize double and/or single action with the add on for trigger safety like in the glock. Both glock and m17 have no hammers but the m17 and m9 both use DA/SA. There are always gonna be similarities and differences either based on personal preference or for tactical usage.
Securing a defense contract means bidding the lowest.
I'm a Sig fan, but I do agree with this.
Exactly 😂😂😂😂😂
Or it means glock can’t read a requirements list 😂
I'm a glock fan boy but I'm pretty sure the new army handgun is probably better. It even crushed every other handgun in all of garand thumbs tests like the freezing weapon test and all that, beating out all of the rifles as well as handguns
I like how sig won the contract for being cheaper yet they are more expensive than glocks when sold to civilians...
The Sig is so good it shoots all on it's own.
Alec Baldwin must have been holding one on the movie set then...LOL
Best comment I've seen in a while
You’re supposed to throw those in your front lawn and use them as auto sentry guns
The glock is so good it still explodes in people's hands after 40 years of existing.
@James Carried several types on and off duty, shot them 100k+ rounds in competitions, seen millions of rounds fired in them. NEVER seen or heard one explode, but I've had a Sig split apart while shooting it.
It's so good, it can even shoot itself...
LOL
Just like the glocks still exploding in people's hands.
Use da safety
Reloaded double powder charge is why Glocks exploded in peoples hands, not because Glock sucks
@@wharris7594thank you
I'm a 1911 guy. But, I don't recall reading dozens upon dozens of news articles and seeing just as many videos of Glocks just suddenly going off while holstered and injuring cops, military and competition shooters like the 320 pistols.. Food for thought.
This video hasn't aged well.
When the cleanup operation in Katrina was happening cleanup crews were finding all kinds of guns that had been submerged in nasty water. They found 1911's, Sigs, S&W's, HK's, Walther's ect. The only guns they found that were not chunks of rust were Glocks, in fact they looked damn near brand-new and functioned perfectly when shot, in fact 1 of the glocks that worked had a broken guide rod and still functioned! I watched a video with a green beret who swears by glock, and I have heard many stories of people in combat who used Beretta M9's, 1911's, Sigs and glocks during their deployment and they say glocks performed the absolute best hands down! I'm a 1911 fanboy and even I know glocks are the AK47 of handguns! ✌
I have a S&W mp and my bro has a glock and whenever he is gone I carry the glock lmaoo it just feels better with all the actions
I am a 1911 fanboy as well but Glock it’s just better it’s so good in every point you can make
I understand glocks are extremely reliable but I function better with the fn 509. I’ll swear by it but if it doesn’t fit you that’s all good get whatever suits you best
Glock makes good guns but their triggers are not good and their factory sights imo are trash. I have no allegiance to any manufacture. I just like guns that work no matter the company.
@@fredthegonzalo hell yeah. I have a Glock 19, Sig 229 and just bought the FN509. FN blows the doors off all them.
The army didn’t chose it because it’s better. They chose it because it was cheaper for them. Not to mention the pages of reported issues/ malfunctions they’ve had in service. Glocks wouldn’t have been misfiring 🙃
The slide locks would bend when soldiers in my unit would drop them, it would make retracting the slide nearly impossible. I had to dead line them so many times in Korea. I miss the berettas 😞
Glocks simply exist, while everyone else tries to say “hey I’m just as good as glock!”
😅 glock is kinda supreme
Just as good as a glock? That’s a very low bar
@@OlDanTucker golden standard
@@MrLeva115 it’s far from the best today it’s easily out shadowed buy many guns today
@@OlDanTucker names?
@@MrLeva115 hk vp9, steyr m9, s&w m&p, springfield xd
Yeah the army bought a bunch for the foot soldiers but pay attention to what all the special forces guys use and nearly every EX special force guy. It’s like saying a crayon is better than a paintbrush just because marines eat them 😂
I’m cool Glock ain’t have as many problems as the sig
Well atleast a glock doesn't go bang till you tell it to , also the glock goes bang every time you tell it to
FYI I had all kinds of shit last one was a sig and I loved it , I always talked shit on glocks then I got one and now ill probably never buy anything else because I won't have to , my glock just works , its not pretty , its not comfy its just works
And it shoots when you drop it. Jk but seriously talk about rushed if they couldn't even develop a drop safe weapon from the beginning.
Lol but it’s better huh
Umm Glocks first run drop fired as well. Just so you know. That is usually what happens when things are mass produced.
@@non-binaryjesus except it hasn’t even out for 6 years has it
@@glock1inthetop45 what?
Ignore this comment
Say what you will but my Glock doesn’t get “normal peening” on the barrel like my Sig does.
P 320 CAME FAULTY OUT OF THE FABRIC, DUE TO A ACCIDENTAL FIRE, MANY COPS IN THE US AND WORLDWIDE HAD EXPERIENCED THE P320 GLITCH.
So much better it fires without squeezing the trigger
“Awesome trigger” so awesome you don’t even gotta pull it for it to fire. We call that the Baldwin special.
“Night sight are ready, red dot capable, and a factory available plastic one pound hammer to fire it while hitting it behind the slide.”
“WHAT?”
“WHAAAAATTTTT!?”
“Military grade” is trash. Contracts go to the lowest bidder. Cheaper quantity over quality thats what the army gets. Ask any army vet
I can confirm this, after I fired a p320 I sold all my glocks and bought a 320 with sights and range ammo
Until you bump it against something
So not only does the Army have to worry about the enemy. Now they also have to worry about their sidearm, the p320 might just shoot you first. It took over because it was the cheaper option not the better option.
Yep. Loose and rattling M9 Berettas are probably still more reliable than the M17 and M18 right now.
@@Funhaus_Ryan hell Beretta even offered to the army to replace the m9 with A3's at factory cost, which would have been insanely better than the m17
Sigs are more expensive than Glocks. Definitely wasn't select for the price
@@purdysanchez the p320 is cheaper than the 19x fir the government contract. Sig undercut themselves and basically made no money just so the army could get a shitty dangerous sidearm
@@bigandfluffy780, sigs aren't shitty. They're just inferior to Glock as a duty/ service weapon.
Won the contract from underbidding.
Except glocks dont fire when you shake them
"if you have to tell yourself it's just as good, it is not just as good" -Brandon Herrera (AK Jesus)
The guy whose entire career is saying AKs are just as good as ARs.
@@austinhuber3131 Exactly 😂
No cap real shit 💯💯💯💯
The AR Platform Is Winning Against The AK Platform In Ukraine
Oh God, I can hear that in Brandon's voice!
“Took over for the Army.” Might as well slap a skull soft sticker on it and use it as a hammer or something
It might start cranking off rounds if you do that!
This is my duty weapon and it sucks. Agency already looking for a replacement. Just because the military went with it, doesn't make it good. Military always goes for the lowest bidder, period.
You don’t even have to pull the trigger it does it by itself
Glock takes the cake hands down , this gun was the army PERSONAL choice . Doesn’t make it better than the glock . Nice try tho . Wishing much success to the SIG community GLOCK nation will see u at the Finnish line
If you think new arms contracts have anything to do with performance and not with preferential friendships, side payments and politics, you might think the P320 is better than the G19/G17.