@@veins91 no it is not. otherwise any sentence you should understand in REVERSE...if you say it in sarcasm mode you always give some clues that you are actually talking in reverse mode and this comment is FULLY in the same mode...so you always understand language in DIRECT MODE unless you are a m o r o n
Organisers: This is an armageddon match. There is no increment Kramnik: I understand Organisers: It is highly likely there will be flagging Kramnik: Sure *Kramnik loses on time* Kramnik: WTF?!?!
Finally, a chess broadcast that gets it. 1) Great commentary. 2) Multiple camera angles with a clear view of the board. 3) Evaluation bar obscured. 4) Lighting/Ambience. 5) Players easily identifiable.
@@theonexx762you know that that’s what Armageddon is about? The whole idea is that there is no draw - one of the players wins, and for that you need no time increment or the game can be endless.
White needs to win the game. Black needs to draw or win the game. There's a decisive result with increment anyways. I agree that there needs to be more time pressure in an armageddon game, but I'd suggest something along the lines of +1 second for a move only if you have less than 5 seconds. Of course that's never gonna happen because chess organizers are old fashioned and don't have the game developer mindset, but it's something to dream about@@Shkiperkir
Nodirbek won fair and square. If Kramnik doesn't like the rules, he shouldn't sign up for an armageddon tournament in the first place, and certainly not blame Nodirbek for beating him
@@AlesZvolanek yeah, so? Doesn't change anything. Chess players will behave however they want, but the rules are always there. You people are always looking for unimportant stuff to talk about in chess, from handshakes to facial expressions, and blow them out of proportion. Is the chess that boring to you?
Kramnik please stop saying everything is cheating! If someone is genuinely good please admit it. Shake hands and put the pieces back and leave! Why would you cry as always when you lose?
Nodirbek placed all his pieces on exact squares without falling even at time scramble, i dont know what kramnik is complaining about. He literrally fall his king then put his pawn one square ahead.
stop stupid insinuations and find out why he was unhappy...nodirbek turned the clock into his side and Kramnik complained about it since he was unable to see properly the time and it made him less convenient to hit the clock
Hating on a rising youngster who probably looked up to you growing up and has definitely studied your games just because you lost a match which should mean nothing to you at this stage of your career is absolutely horrible. The way the smile on Nodirbek's face just faded as he saw this grown ass man throwing tantrums over getting flagged is just heartbreaking. I don't usually care about people like these but I hate Kramnik with all my heart. Mf makes everything personal with players who are doing their best in the name of "outing the cheaters" just because he's a sore loser. Just retire and enjoy life old man.
People like him are the reason i stopped over the board competitive play, i just couldnt stand these guys anymore, especially on club level, i even witnessed fights, old guys flipping out on youngsters, smugness, arrogance, being a sore loser is a generalised problem in club chess
I hate when players get into time scrambles and start knocking the pieces off the board and playing sloppily. There was a women's US championship where both players were doing that. The first person to do that and hit the clock should lose the game.
Games without increment should be played only by using computer screen. Games over the board should be played only with increment or delay in order to avoid things that happened in this game. During last 10 seconds of the game you can clearly see that both guys were violating rules by making move before opponent pressed the clock. Kramnik's falling/misplaced pieces made look this game not like chess game but like something else. Question - where was the arbiter? Again, the easiest solution to eliminate these things is to force players to play by using computer screen.
I've thought about this and eventually, begrudgingly, decided it's the correct idea. OTB time scrambles with 1 second increment or no increment are a mess. Always. If you insist on making armageddon like that they should play on computers so they can at least premove and avoid knocked over pieces and the whole fiasco that happens every time.
The real insult to injury is that it's a dead drawn position, and I think he was truly angry at nordi for simply playing it out and flagging him. I suppose he thought it was disrespectful; but what was he supposed to do, extend his hand out of respect for the legend? He's a competitor. He wants to win.
Yes, the Irina Krush vs. Anna Zatonskih US championship game was similar. Zatonskih was moving on Krush's time, the pieces got knocked off the board and they kept playing. Total arbiter fail.
Over the board games without increment are absolutely fine. Knocking over pieces on the board and not restoring them before pushing the clock should result in an immediate intervention by the arbiters. The problem is that the arbiters are not active enough.
using up your time is a gambit. you give time for longer calculation, and if you gamble too much it's your error in judgement. it's not a coincidence, especially with players this good.
Kramnik is a dirty person. Nodirbek is only the age of his son/daughter, but Kramnik played dirty, lost, refused to shake hand, and raged against Nodirbek
The old guy in the glasses had a nervous breakdown. I hope he received the care and help he needed after leaving the premises. Have we heard from this man since?. Hope he is safe and well. God bless.
I don't get why he is raging. First you take too much time avoiding mistakes so that your opponent doesn't win. Now when your opponent wants to win on time you start blaming opponents for flagging. Abdusttorov had to win one way or another.
That's why I don't like OTB bullet or blitz. It's just impossible to move the pieces accurately, it's just a mess. Classical and rapid are the best. Besides, chess was never meant to be a quick game anyway. But Kramnik can't be mad if he agreed to play such mode. He is still a brilliant player. Props.
“Okay lets do the procedure” Im actually dying😂😭 The way kramnik just move and presses the clock at the same time at the end and doesn’t really accurately take turns. Basically no fks were given🤣🤣🤣
Nodirbek is probably the same age as Kramniks son or daughter. Kramnik could show being a senior and congratulate youngster but instead he was like a child. Nodirbek was much mature than Kramnik.
Vladímir Krámnik is 48 years old and look at what ridiculous and childish behavior because the game ended in a draw. Apparently this man has not matured that part over the years. A shame!
@@viharikrishnan5588 he hoped for a coup d'état in the US: "[I hope] the country will be taken over by the military-they'll close down all the synagogues, arrest all the Jews, execute hundreds of thousands of Jewish ringleaders." From the 1980s on, Fischer's comments about Jews were a major theme in his public and private remarks.[501] He openly denied the Holocaust, from wikipedia
maturity is Realizing that Bobby was not really that crazy. he was not spot on on everything but he was spot on on so many things that people now say are ".controversial" cause they've been told how to think. the average American politician right now is way crazier than fisher ever was and say things that makes fisher sound like a saint..but since most politicians lies and rhetoric is directed towards the "other"..people don't think hold them to the same standards and don't call them crazy. the one controlling the narrative decides which ones are crazy.
its hard for a great chess player like kramnik who dedicated his whole life to chess to leave the game for life qyite literally, it's unfortunate to see him in this state where he is quite grumpy and a mess when back then he used to take losses with a smile.
Kramnik was a world champion. But with age skills erode and newer younger players get better it has always been this way. Yes there are a few players who remained strong when they got older but that is the exception. If he's not being a sore loser he is accusing people of cheating, because how could they beat him any other way?
I would 100% agree with you. Indeed young generations are different they are much faster and they play different style. Nodirbek is probably the same age as Kramnik’s son/daughter, so Kramnik should have congratulated him and shake his hand. But Nodirbek looked more mature than Kramnik
I’m sure he wasn’t swearing at him or anything, but he was clearly complaining at the opponent when it ended, and stormed off without even handshaking him. Those kind of bad manners are unthinkable from a former world champion, take everything in context.
Comparing old players who lost to young players or children... I noticed that the most calm and accepting of loss is the great and historical player "Anatoly Karpov", followed by "Alexander Grishuk"... and "Vasil Ivanchuk"... Ivanchuk never gets angry, he is kind-hearted, but immediately after defeat, he becomes very sad, then he puts his hand on his head and starts talking to himself.... The most prominent person who is very sensitive to losing and gets extremely angry when he loses to a young or old player is "Gary Kasparov".
Kramnik losing his cool a bit is not unusual. It doesn't mean he thinks the result is unfair though. The emotion builds as the game enters the time scramble. What to do with the stored physical energy when the game ends? Some physical expression for the release of energy is usual enough.
I can understand Magnus, he is the best player, and so much pressure from people when he loses... But some players like Hikaru and Kramnik are really sore losers
I do not understand why humans play game they do not like. If you play blitz guess what could happen : being flagged ! Though, it has been debated that blitz is chess ... or not...
Нодирбек сейчас 19 лет. Он занимает 4 строчку рейтинга ФИДЕ . Его шахматная сила растет безперерывно. Крамнику приближаются на 50 лет. Спад в его игре - это эстественный процесс. Его ровесник, чемпион ФИДЕ Рустам Касимджанов ( тоже узбек) сейчас основном занимает тренерством и секундантам. Он давно замечал спад в своих игре и перестал бороться молодым супер элитой шахматы. Одним словом, он привык.
The production quality here is better than anything I’ve ever seen. Great commentary, and the format keeps things interesting even when no pieces are moving, because it’s exciting seeing the players stress and agonize over their decisions.
Why is his personality so disrespectful towards opponents? If you didn't like the game system, why did you participate in the first place? I am surprised that these old players are disrespectful, except for Anand, whose personality is very respectful and calm. At least shake hands with the young talent and this will support him and not rise in this provocative way. He should not be invited again. We want Anand always
this happens during the heat and i don't think Kramnik had anything against Abdusattorov. Maybe, he was not happy with his clock management. He probably spoke something in Russian and Nodirbek looked with "sorry, that happens" eye... they both speak Russian...and no need to make something out of this. By the way, Nodirbek is not just a talent, but also was world champion in Rapid, so i don't think winning or loosing in armageddon match would do much to his rise.
Im new to the chess world and instead of knowing Kramnik for being a past master im knowing him for being a cry baby, just can avoid seing the last month content on him, the guy instead of enyoing his very acomplished life in chess is detroying his image.
Как шахматист, видимо, уже не тянет- решил заняться борьбой с шахматным злом- читерами!Владимир Борисович, вы достойно выйграли титул чемпиона мира в свое время, но проигрывать тоже надо достойно.
What's happening to Kramnik? Always getting entangled with these issues. First "alleged cheating." Now the time control. He used to be so gracious. I hope this is just a phase, just like when he had a blundericious phase back in the 2000's, but bounced back big time. I hope Kramnik the champ returns.
@@ryanamburgy2791 If they bullied Kramnik as much as Phil , Kramnik would cry in the corner.Other players regularly targeting Phil for his reaction :D.
At some point, Kramnik is going to have to accept the fact that he's just not that great any more. There are tons of players out there better than him now.
Nodibrek didn't do something wrong, we won legitimately. If Kramnik didn't like to lose like that he shouldn't participate in this tournament. On the other hand I wonder why, in the digital era are being played games without increment. The ideal rules for an Armagedon game, in my opinion. is like this. White take 5 minutes with 2 seconds increment, black takes X minutes with 2 seconds increment and before the game the two players bid on the value of X. The player with the smaller bid takes the black pieces.
Why would black get penalised with 1 or more minutes less than the opponent? Or more realistically: how do they decide a tiebreaker when both players refuse to bid lower than 5 minutes?
@@ChatGPTacc1-kh8pb I know what game mode they’re playing in the video, and I’m asking about OP’s proposed alternate ruleset for the mode. What research do you want me to do other than ask clarifying questions from the only person in the world who uses this variation of the rules?
Blitz without an increment in otb shouldn't be a thing in 2023 anymore, not even in Armageddon. It just leads to confusion in mutual time trouble. There should always be enough time to make a move. Even one second increment would improve things dramatically
Kramnik has always seemed like a gentleman. Blitz games used to be played as a form of casual "skittles" before or after a tournament, where there was no scoresheet, and the players would have fun and laugh at the mistakes, even their own. It used to be fun. Nowadays, however, they have "officialized" this skittles game into serious chess stakes, so that it's no laughing matter when you hang a piece or pawn or lose an equal or won game on time. Whenever I lose a rated slow game, I am not near as frustrated as when I lose a rated blitz game, because with the slow game, I usually have played better moves and I lost through some serious oversight I can learn from. With blitz, you lose and you learn nothing, and you resent the fact your opponent gets points because he capitalized on a silly mistake, instead of "outplaying" you.
Stop caring about blitz games? That's how I deal with it. I still play it for fun, but if I lose in blitz or bullet it's just whatever. No reason to care about a time format which induces loads of blunders and flagging.
Kramnik: Okay, everything is clear to me. We do the procedure.
😂😭
HAHHAHAHAAH
😂😂😂
I was just looking for this comment 🤣
Okay letz do ze procedure
This guy Kramnik seems like a good sport. I'm sure he'd never make spurious insinuations about someone cheating out of jealousy or bitterness!
But that's what he did...he proved to be a bad loser here.
@@jocachess its called sarcasm lol
@@jocachess stop shitting in your trousers hater...Kramnik complained about nodirbek moving his pieces on KRAMNIK'S TIME...buy some brain you halfwit
@@veins91 no it is not. otherwise any sentence you should understand in REVERSE...if you say it in sarcasm mode you always give some clues that you are actually talking in reverse mode and this comment is FULLY in the same mode...so you always understand language in DIRECT MODE unless you are a m o r o n
bro the tism is really getting you@@saulsavelis575
Organisers: This is an armageddon match. There is no increment
Kramnik: I understand
Organisers: It is highly likely there will be flagging
Kramnik: Sure
*Kramnik loses on time*
Kramnik: WTF?!?!
Kramnik: The clock should be investigated for cheating!!
These young kids have to much adrenaline steroids? Or just teen spirit ?
@@gogogreengeneration smells like teen spirit to me.
lol
“Here we are now, entertain us”, :))
Kramnik is having a serious midlife crisis.
Shut you mouth up
He needs some milk!
more like endlife crisis
He needs a toilet...
he is nearly 50 so its more like end of life crisis.
Finally, a chess broadcast that gets it.
1) Great commentary.
2) Multiple camera angles with a clear view of the board.
3) Evaluation bar obscured.
4) Lighting/Ambience.
5) Players easily identifiable.
I agree, unfortunately organizers don't. Over the board games without increment in 2023 are just a shame.
Right, this looks amazing. I've never seen chess like this
Lol you're joking, this is the ugliest thing I've ever seen, it looks awful, looks like it's a school project
@@theonexx762you know that that’s what Armageddon is about? The whole idea is that there is no draw - one of the players wins, and for that you need no time increment or the game can be endless.
White needs to win the game. Black needs to draw or win the game. There's a decisive result with increment anyways. I agree that there needs to be more time pressure in an armageddon game, but I'd suggest something along the lines of +1 second for a move only if you have less than 5 seconds. Of course that's never gonna happen because chess organizers are old fashioned and don't have the game developer mindset, but it's something to dream about@@Shkiperkir
Nodirbek won fair and square. If Kramnik doesn't like the rules, he shouldn't sign up for an armageddon tournament in the first place, and certainly not blame Nodirbek for beating him
How did Kramnik blame Nodirkbek - do you know what he said?
Agreed. Kramnik always rages about flagging in Armageddon yet signs up for an Armageddon tournament!
@@sotovo lets just say - he didn't take it like a champ, in fact he did take it like a sore loser, didn't even shake hands after the game...
@@AlesZvolanek yeah, so? Doesn't change anything. Chess players will behave however they want, but the rules are always there. You people are always looking for unimportant stuff to talk about in chess, from handshakes to facial expressions, and blow them out of proportion. Is the chess that boring to you?
@@musical_lolu4811Have you ever played normal chess? Not shaking hands is a very big issue.
If it was online he would’ve accused him of cheating
Kramnik gambit declined: cheating accusation
Kramnik please stop saying everything is cheating! If someone is genuinely good please admit it. Shake hands and put the pieces back and leave! Why would you cry as always when you lose?
His usual graciousness on display 😳
He is a disgrace.
It can be understood. For a long time he had a winning position, and then his flag was cut down in a draw position
Most top GMs have huge egos and hate losing.
How elegant
Sadly, we will never know how YOU handle getting old as a pro player who took the crown from Kasparov....
Nodirbek placed all his pieces on exact squares without falling even at time scramble, i dont know what kramnik is complaining about. He literrally fall his king then put his pawn one square ahead.
Why, is he complaining in the first place?
stop stupid insinuations and find out why he was unhappy...nodirbek turned the clock into his side and Kramnik complained about it since he was unable to see properly the time and it made him less convenient to hit the clock
@saulsavelis575 watch the video again bud. The clock moved every time Kramnik hits the button.😂
@@saulsavelis575love it when stupid people call others stupid always funny. Classic RUclips comment😅
@@brycepeddicord6763 i think saulsavelis is kramnik himself xD
Kinda funny how he is coaching the Uzbekistan team in the olympiad
Hating on a rising youngster who probably looked up to you growing up and has definitely studied your games just because you lost a match which should mean nothing to you at this stage of your career is absolutely horrible. The way the smile on Nodirbek's face just faded as he saw this grown ass man throwing tantrums over getting flagged is just heartbreaking. I don't usually care about people like these but I hate Kramnik with all my heart. Mf makes everything personal with players who are doing their best in the name of "outing the cheaters" just because he's a sore loser. Just retire and enjoy life old man.
I play chess for the sole purpose of upsetting my opponents. Nodirbek kind of looks away smirking, I think he enjoyed it.
Totally Totally agree with u sajaljaiswal, been thinking the exact same thing for a while now
He killed his reputation lmao. A former world champ to meme material
@@jestice75Lol get a life bro
People like him are the reason i stopped over the board competitive play, i just couldnt stand these guys anymore, especially on club level, i even witnessed fights, old guys flipping out on youngsters, smugness, arrogance, being a sore loser is a generalised problem in club chess
Now it’s time for the procedure, block and report for cheating.
Let’s check the engine. 92 dot 4 percentage. Yes it’s clear to me now.
Kramnik reminds me of hellmuth
Holy shit that's so accurate. He's definitely the Phil Hellmuth of chess 😂
🤣🤣 true
Both douches
HONEY HE FLAGGED ME ON A LOSING POSITION!
Would be fun if Kramnik plays poker with Hellmuth one day
as mentioned by kasparov "i can fight any opponent but not my biological clock. fighting time is a losing proposition."
Hikaru: hold my wrist watch
@@Philiopantheon82 Hikaru isnt that old
@@ТарланХудавердиев-ц8п for real, isnt he in his 30s?
Kramnik isn't even that old lol
@@Archeops24 Average GM's peak in career agewise in chess lies between 30-35.
Kramnik is 48 y.o.
....um yes, he actually is that old do the math, lol
So Kramnik makes an ilegal move and still gets angry with his opponent. It's sad watching Kramnik lately.
I hate when players get into time scrambles and start knocking the pieces off the board and playing sloppily. There was a women's US championship where both players were doing that. The first person to do that and hit the clock should lose the game.
This loss couldn’t have happened to a better guy.
Accuse others of cheating with no evidence because you can’t win anymore.
Gbye!
Games without increment should be played only by using computer screen.
Games over the board should be played only with increment or delay in order to avoid things that happened in this game.
During last 10 seconds of the game you can clearly see that both guys were violating rules by making move before opponent pressed the clock.
Kramnik's falling/misplaced pieces made look this game not like chess game but like something else.
Question - where was the arbiter?
Again, the easiest solution to eliminate these things is to force players to play by using computer screen.
I've thought about this and eventually, begrudgingly, decided it's the correct idea. OTB time scrambles with 1 second increment or no increment are a mess. Always. If you insist on making armageddon like that they should play on computers so they can at least premove and avoid knocked over pieces and the whole fiasco that happens every time.
The real insult to injury is that it's a dead drawn position, and I think he was truly angry at nordi for simply playing it out and flagging him. I suppose he thought it was disrespectful; but what was he supposed to do, extend his hand out of respect for the legend? He's a competitor. He wants to win.
Yes, the Irina Krush vs. Anna Zatonskih US championship game was similar. Zatonskih was moving on Krush's time, the pieces got knocked off the board and they kept playing. Total arbiter fail.
Over the board games without increment are absolutely fine. Knocking over pieces on the board and not restoring them before pushing the clock should result in an immediate intervention by the arbiters. The problem is that the arbiters are not active enough.
using up your time is a gambit. you give time for longer calculation, and if you gamble too much it's your error in judgement. it's not a coincidence, especially with players this good.
Nodirbek has kind manners. Even his final smile did not have any condescending tone.
"Interesting play by Nodirbek"
“i think that game needs to be investigated further”
It's clear to me now. We must proceed with the procedure
Knocked it out of the park with the production and angles and everything on this one. I’m super happy to see it. Best chess broadcast I’ve ever seen
They are learning!
it's horrible
Kramnik is a dirty person. Nodirbek is only the age of his son/daughter, but Kramnik played dirty, lost, refused to shake hand, and raged against Nodirbek
Watch it again he used a 2nd move to put it back on the same square he accidentally knocked it to.
Nodirbek is the next Magnus. He's excellent at all time formats.
Agreed. And he just passed Alireza and Nepo to reach world #5
@@jeffn9952now even #4
@@AffectionateCurling-ps4xothat ranking doesn’t mean much when he doesn’t win titles
Согласна! Он хорош!
he's very good, yes. But i dont think he will ever get close to magnus
It is called Armageddon. He was just taking it literally.
The old guy in the glasses had a nervous breakdown. I hope he received the care and help he needed after leaving the premises. Have we heard from this man since?. Hope he is safe and well. God bless.
@@OvercookedOctopusFeet😂😂😂
I don't get why he is raging. First you take too much time avoiding mistakes so that your opponent doesn't win. Now when your opponent wants to win on time you start blaming opponents for flagging. Abdusttorov had to win one way or another.
Eventually life will flag us all. I hope kramnik is prepared for this.
God cheated!
He's not yet 50, chill
I love how Nordirbek just smiles.
He was fully aware of how Kramniks reaction would turn out and he pepeared himself to give no fuck at all 😂
Obviously Nodirbek was cheating there....right? right? no one's arm moves that fast it must be bionic.
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the probability of a human to move his hands that fast in such a short time is equal to 0%, this is very "interesting" and should be investigated :D
@@VyoMoD yeah according to mathematicians such quick hand movements are not possible. Nodirbek must be inverstigated , no one is above the law.
😂 I like this comment
LMAO
otb chess in a time scramble like that is ridiculous but it is what it is.
I've seen MMA matches more respectful than this one.
Okay, Everything clear to me... We do the procedure... Rage quit in real life because I can't report and block...
That's why I don't like OTB bullet or blitz. It's just impossible to move the pieces accurately, it's just a mess. Classical and rapid are the best. Besides, chess was never meant to be a quick game anyway. But Kramnik can't be mad if he agreed to play such mode. He is still a brilliant player. Props.
Just play 5+ 2 seconds
“Okay lets do the procedure”
Im actually dying😂😭
The way kramnik just move and presses the clock at the same time at the end and doesn’t really accurately take turns. Basically no fks were given🤣🤣🤣
kramnik can't accept the fact that he's getting older and young players are joining the scene.
Kramnik struggle with them fat hands i feel the pain with that one they rearly need to make the peaces bigger an heavyer 🤣🤣🤣
Nodirbek is probably the same age as Kramniks son or daughter. Kramnik could show being a senior and congratulate youngster but instead he was like a child. Nodirbek was much mature than Kramnik.
If there was anyone at fault then it was Kramnik. Nodirbek won fair and square.
Vladímir Krámnik is 48 years old and look at what ridiculous and childish behavior because the game ended in a draw. Apparently this man has not matured that part over the years. A shame!
No handshake is WILD behavior. Fischer may not be the craziest anymore.
no handshakes is meaningless compared to fischer.
fisher never was crazy wtf
@@viharikrishnan5588 he hoped for a coup d'état in the US: "[I hope] the country will be taken over by the military-they'll close down all the synagogues, arrest all the Jews, execute hundreds of thousands of Jewish ringleaders."
From the 1980s on, Fischer's comments about Jews were a major theme in his public and private remarks.[501] He openly denied the Holocaust,
from wikipedia
maturity is Realizing that Bobby was not really that crazy. he was not spot on on everything but he was spot on on so many things that people now say are ".controversial" cause they've been told how to think. the average American politician right now is way crazier than fisher ever was and say things that makes fisher sound like a saint..but since most politicians lies and rhetoric is directed towards the "other"..people don't think hold them to the same standards and don't call them crazy. the one controlling the narrative decides which ones are crazy.
Kramnik doesn’t respect his opponent. If he was Anand, Kasparov or Ivanchuk , kramnik would have smiled and accepted the loss.
Maybe not Kasparov but rest I agree
Snuck in Kasparov
It’s hilarious that Kramnik’s final three moves involved the king staying on the same square
I think it's so he could correct his illegal pawn move.
its hard for a great chess player like kramnik who dedicated his whole life to chess to leave the game for life qyite literally, it's unfortunate to see him in this state where he is quite grumpy and a mess when back then he used to take losses with a smile.
kramnik is washed, finished and loss all respect from the chess world
Next time play faster, Mr. CheatHunter.
Kramnik must do THE PROCEDURE
Trash choice by production to not have the clock shown on screen.
Kramnik was a world champion. But with age skills erode and newer younger players get better it has always been this way. Yes there are a few players who remained strong when they got older but that is the exception. If he's not being a sore loser he is accusing people of cheating, because how could they beat him any other way?
I would 100% agree with you. Indeed young generations are different they are much faster and they play different style. Nodirbek is probably the same age as Kramnik’s son/daughter, so Kramnik should have congratulated him and shake his hand. But Nodirbek looked more mature than Kramnik
Kramnik with gray hair and lots of weight. This makes me feel old.
His claims about cheating would be more plausible were he not so obviously a terrible loser.
In his mind hes the Kramnik from 2005, reality disagrees.
Nodirbek didn't outplay him so Kramnik can still tangle with the best.
I came here just for the comments about Kramnik 😂
This has got to be the calmest rage ever.
Inside he was secretly blogging about it. Very aggressive blogging
Clickbait title
I’m sure he wasn’t swearing at him or anything, but he was clearly complaining at the opponent when it ended, and stormed off without even handshaking him. Those kind of bad manners are unthinkable from a former world champion, take everything in context.
Karmnik need to be ban of chess competition
This game was definitely very interesting.
Comparing old players who lost to young players or children... I noticed that the most calm and accepting of loss is the great and historical player "Anatoly Karpov", followed by "Alexander Grishuk"... and "Vasil Ivanchuk"... Ivanchuk never gets angry, he is kind-hearted, but immediately after defeat, he becomes very sad, then he puts his hand on his head and starts talking to himself....
The most prominent person who is very sensitive to losing and gets extremely angry when he loses to a young or old player is "Gary Kasparov".
time scramble on real boards is a joke
Крамник проиграл Ароняну имея +5 или даже больше смотрел матч
Kramnik is a sore loser. Accusing Hikaru of cheating
Kramnik losing his cool a bit is not unusual. It doesn't mean he thinks the result is unfair though. The emotion builds as the game enters the time scramble. What to do with the stored physical energy when the game ends? Some physical expression for the release of energy is usual enough.
kramnik has become intolerant to losing... everytime he loses he acuses other players of cheating
Mouse wasn't working this whole time. And opponent's clock kept showing zero.
Imagine spending a lifetime dedicated to chess just to lose to an inanimate clock.
All russians seems so salty everytime.
8:45 absolute chaos 😂
Vladimir Kramnik is basically Phil Hellmuth of Chess :)
The grumpy old man of chess. Carlsen catching up to him though…. Edit: was that a smart watch Kramnick was wearing??? Naughty naughty
Better not play against "M"agnus "C"arlsen 😳
That was a heart rate monitor provided by the organisers
Atleast read about the tournament first, before being salty😂
At this rate i can beat Kramnik...am.afraid of being accused of cheating playing hin
I can understand Magnus, he is the best player, and so much pressure from people when he loses... But some players like Hikaru and Kramnik are really sore losers
I do not understand why humans play game they do not like. If you play blitz guess what could happen : being flagged ! Though, it has been debated that blitz is chess ... or not...
The clock cheated
Нодирбек сейчас 19 лет. Он занимает 4 строчку рейтинга ФИДЕ . Его шахматная сила растет безперерывно.
Крамнику приближаются на 50 лет. Спад в его игре - это эстественный процесс.
Его ровесник, чемпион ФИДЕ Рустам Касимджанов ( тоже узбек) сейчас основном занимает тренерством и секундантам.
Он давно замечал спад в своих игре и перестал бороться молодым супер элитой шахматы. Одним словом, он привык.
He will report soon that he cheated on board. 😂
Nordibek now is numbre 5 of the world. And Kramnik was winning this game. So Kramnik retired is a monster.
Kramnik is the epitome of good sportsmanship in chess.
Interesting
The problem isn't the time, it's the pieces that are flying.
Kramnik?? More like Kramdick.. this guy isn’t nice 😢
The production quality here is better than anything I’ve ever seen. Great commentary, and the format keeps things interesting even when no pieces are moving, because it’s exciting seeing the players stress and agonize over their decisions.
If he acts nice and honest,he will have to admit he's faltering ,and that is probably unacceptable to him. The plight of the older man....
Awesome. Kramnik is just a knob
Kramnik=Droopy Dog
And now at the Olympiad, Vlad is the captain of Uzbek team 😂
Why is his personality so disrespectful towards opponents? If you didn't like the game system, why did you participate in the first place? I am surprised that these old players are disrespectful, except for Anand, whose personality is very respectful and calm. At least shake hands with the young talent and this will support him and not rise in this provocative way. He should not be invited again. We want Anand always
Anand was raging too sometimes... You don't have such competitive mind you will not understand that.
this happens during the heat and i don't think Kramnik had anything against Abdusattorov. Maybe, he was not happy with his clock management. He probably spoke something in Russian and Nodirbek looked with "sorry, that happens" eye... they both speak Russian...and no need to make something out of this. By the way, Nodirbek is not just a talent, but also was world champion in Rapid, so i don't think winning or loosing in armageddon match would do much to his rise.
Wow, hes such a big baby
I recognize that male commentator's voice. It's the great Jan Gustafson (which I probably misspelled)
You did.
Kramnik right after: Alright, time for "the procedure" .........Where tf is my report button?
Im new to the chess world and instead of knowing Kramnik for being a past master im knowing him for being a cry baby, just can avoid seing the last month content on him, the guy instead of enyoing his very acomplished life in chess is detroying his image.
Nordirbek should've hit him with the "TOO WEAK, TOO SLOW"
Как шахматист, видимо, уже не тянет- решил заняться борьбой с шахматным злом- читерами!Владимир Борисович, вы достойно выйграли титул чемпиона мира в свое время, но проигрывать тоже надо достойно.
Correction- In the end "Kramniks enemy was none other then his pride"
kramnik should try chess boxing, he seems to have a lot of energy
What's happening to Kramnik? Always getting entangled with these issues. First "alleged cheating." Now the time control. He used to be so gracious. I hope this is just a phase, just like when he had a blundericious phase back in the 2000's, but bounced back big time. I hope Kramnik the champ returns.
I feel bad for you, seeing how his situation escalated
Nope, he's getting worse now.
Kramnik has always been like this.
where is the handshake after the game? The lack of nurturing from Kramnik. So bad behaviour from him
Kramnik always reminds me of Phil Hellmuth
Pretty good comparison but Kramnik is a way better person than Phil
except kraminik doesnt do jokes
@@ryanamburgy2791 If they bullied Kramnik as much as Phil , Kramnik would cry in the corner.Other players regularly targeting Phil for his reaction :D.
At some point, Kramnik is going to have to accept the fact that he's just not that great any more. There are tons of players out there better than him now.
The production was so good here
Kramnik is too outdated, he still thinks he has world champ strength accusing people of cheating, i mean hikaru, whats he even thinking
Peter Leko would have been a finer world champion for sure.
Kramnik is World Chess Champion...let the kid achieve that first..;)
Nodibrek didn't do something wrong, we won legitimately. If Kramnik didn't like to lose like that he shouldn't participate in this tournament. On the other hand I wonder why, in the digital era are being played games without increment. The ideal rules for an Armagedon game, in my opinion. is like this. White take 5 minutes with 2 seconds increment, black takes X minutes with 2 seconds increment and before the game the two players bid on the value of X. The player with the smaller bid takes the black pieces.
Why would black get penalised with 1 or more minutes less than the opponent? Or more realistically: how do they decide a tiebreaker when both players refuse to bid lower than 5 minutes?
@@LoudWaffle it's called Armageddon go do some research lmao
@@ChatGPTacc1-kh8pb I know what game mode they’re playing in the video, and I’m asking about OP’s proposed alternate ruleset for the mode. What research do you want me to do other than ask clarifying questions from the only person in the world who uses this variation of the rules?
Clickbait its just an angry reaction for losing. I've seen Hikaru rage even in winning position.
Blitz without an increment in otb shouldn't be a thing in 2023 anymore, not even in Armageddon. It just leads to confusion in mutual time trouble. There should always be enough time to make a move. Even one second increment would improve things dramatically
Bruh i thought kramnik unlike Kasparov was a decent human, he also turned out to be a cry baby.
Kramnik has always seemed like a gentleman. Blitz games used to be played as a form of casual "skittles" before or after a tournament, where there was no scoresheet, and the players would have fun and laugh at the mistakes, even their own. It used to be fun. Nowadays, however, they have "officialized" this skittles game into serious chess stakes, so that it's no laughing matter when you hang a piece or pawn or lose an equal or won game on time. Whenever I lose a rated slow game, I am not near as frustrated as when I lose a rated blitz game, because with the slow game, I usually have played better moves and I lost through some serious oversight I can learn from. With blitz, you lose and you learn nothing, and you resent the fact your opponent gets points because he capitalized on a silly mistake, instead of "outplaying" you.
Stop caring about blitz games? That's how I deal with it. I still play it for fun, but if I lose in blitz or bullet it's just whatever. No reason to care about a time format which induces loads of blunders and flagging.
always seemed a gentleman lol not sure which timeline you're from but it ain't this one
I'd love to hear your definition of a "gentleman".
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