@@holmofrur whatever, say why you want, he was onstage flexing like all the rest regardless; he stood up and competed, and took the prize… ‘81 was way more controversial with Platz and Padilla - Franco’s win was a joke… Padilla was never better!
I have been a devotee of Arnold and his training philosophy. Now that I've got that out of the way, I believe his best showings were '72,'74, and '75. In 1980, he looked like a shadow of himself. He was in Hollywood shape, but not competition shape. He wasn't ready. He allegedly trained for eight weeks for the contest. This is after a five year retirement. Eight weeks? I don't think so. He pulled out all the stops, the judges were also good friends of Arnold. I don't recall if he had a had in promotion as well. Let's face it, Mentzer was the best physique that day, not Arnold.
@Mantastic-ho3vm good observation, I suppose it also comes down to what genetics nature gives one, in order to stand a chance in becoming a champion, m
The true winner was MIKE MENTZER, He may have lost due to politics, But he left us with HEAVY DUTY TRAINING. And HIS LEGACY. And ifbb can never do anything about THAT.
@@yeahsure9759first off... No one looks up to Arnold as an actor. Never. Ever. 😂 And now and for awhile Arnold's ways in lifting have been known and most just see him as the physique. Mikes was better, but due to the politics ...he was pushed out of people's minds... But now his actual philosophy and ways of lifting are being looked at... Arnold, yes is rich and rich. Horrible actor. Horrible politician, and yea....
Didn't he cheat on his wife with the cleaning lady too😂 had her bent into the ficus ...wonder if he had any trips to Epstein Island like the other hollyweirds
@@yeahsure9759 Read your comment, man. It's completely irrelevant. It's equivalent to saying that the Rock was a better wrestler than John Cena because he was in more movies. Additionally, recordings have been released proving Weider's corruptness in the bodybuilding industry. Also, Arnold was a kiss a** personally meddling with the federation. I'm not saying that Mentzer should have won, but there's many reasons why this very situation is a controversy. In the 1980 competition in particular, Arnold came out of retirement with a poor physique compared to his past self and won. Mentzer was not the only bodybuilder who should have beaten Arnold that day.
@@oDnjuArnold lost his family because he couldn't keep his snake in his pants. All because he all about himself. He's guilty of doing horrific acts. He has no human dignity whatsoever
Dorian only met Mike twice and was weighing 275lbs at the time and Dorian has said although they shared similar training philosophy he felt to win the Olympia he did six working sets for each body part whereas Mike only did 1 or 2 Working sets …. He said at no time was Mike his trainer and both Mike and Dorian used the training philosophy of Arthur jones the original creator of HIT
Arnold is an ass-creeper and was backed-up by a strong Lobby which made him win and also became Governor later on. Mentzer was the real hero and left the HEAVY DUTY behind, wich is a treasure.. RIP Mike!!
Mike Mentzer looked the best symmetrical body he looked incredible. And I can say I'm using his techniques and I can see incredible growth from working out once every 7-10 days. I'm blown away from the difference
I'm following Mike Mentzer's Heavy Duty program for about 8 months now and I lost 15lbs of fat getting into 15%-16% bf and my physique looks amazing. I'm not sure how to post my photo here though.
@bbreon75 Congrats on that. I've been eating plant based for a while now.. and coupling that with mentzer's philosophy on intensity, training to muscle failure, and recovery have opened my eyes on to what true physical (and mental) growth can look like.
They're fixed to the point where no man or woman wants to compete in bodybuilding. The Powers That Be and their "champions" want to weed out who think is worthy of being a winner and knock the competition down
This had created a stigma in bodybuilding with Joe Weider being fully aware, the judges according to rumors were changed by Weider to favor Arnold , with Weider it was bout the publication sales, and Arnold was the "golden goose", in shape or not !!
@@lobby-3alliance196 That's exactly what John Hansen said happened at the 1972 Mr. Olympia against Sergio Oliva.......... Weider changed out the judges 5, maybe 7 times..........
Realizing this was one of the biggest disappointments of my life. Now I just practice sports and care very little about watching professionals play or compete.
Clearly Mike was primed to win. Wieder couldn’t have that so he brought Arnold back and all the judges quit and all Arnold’s friends replaced them. It really is grotesque. Mike was the man.
Absolutely! Interviewing the judges who were present during the competition would provide valuable insights into their perspectives on that day's events.
Honestly Arnold was more of a bully than a champion!! if there is any chance of him loosing he will ensure the opponents are misdirected or manupulated before hand...MIKE MENTZER & KAI GREENE are peoples champions!!!❤
What’s funny is that the results of the context didn’t match the eye test to the point that CBS didn’t even air the contest after going to Australia to record the show.
@@motorheadforlife9431Not really. Arnold had complete control over this situation. He didn't needed to get into a fight. Mike already lost the Competition before it began.
Iirc, all seven judges were his close friends and former/ current business partners. Others associated with the contest, if they spoke up against Arnold, they were good as gone the next day. Arnold may have had a hand in the promotion of the contest, iirc....if Arnold could have packed the Opera house with his friends and numerous fans, he would have found a way to do it. Arnold has always been prepared to do whatever it took to win.
Mike Mentzer and Frank Zane have always been superior to Arnold. And their training methods are much more effective than Arnold's (I've tried them both), we're talking about science here, muscle and brain combined. Respect to Mr Mentzer, I follow his heavy duty program.
Arnold was a guy who just wanted it all.. He said he was gonna retire after the 1975 Olympia and he should've done so.. It wasn't enough that he was on his way to being a box office Hollywood movie star but he had to come back to the Olympia to and steal the spotlight from the other bodybuilders.. In my opinion he didn't deserve to win the 80 Mr Olympia.. But I would still rather have Arnold's 1980 physique than anybody else's onstage that year just because of his sheer physical size and height.. In many ways he still did look like a true champion despite his condition being off..
Arnold's double biceps shot was far more aesthetic, heavy and powerful than any other bodybuilder. In fact his whole posing routine was better. He knew how to hide the weak points and repeat the most powerful poses. Moreover he had a grace which any other bodybuilder was deprived of.
Both worked they just didn't get on. Steroids helped plus they trained on top of using. Mike died an addict Arnie had heart problems. Both looked great Both paid a price Arnie still with us. Both huge in the sport.
I liked what Arthur Jones said about Arnold when Weirdnegger tried to work for him, "Arnold and his longtime friend Franco Columbu visited us in Lake Helen in November of 1970, and sitting in the living room of my house Arnold told some terrible stories about Joe Weider and Joe’s wife Betty, while working for Weider. Arnold was a homosexual prostitute, a drug user and drug pusher and made no bones about it at the time; so, later, when he tried to get me to hire him I turned him down." Lol!
@@sonyx4500 Looky! The worthless Arnold minion is back from the cesspool of the local sewer. Apparently people do care what Arthur had to say or what he preached. He the inventor of the Nautilus exercise machines. Jones was a pioneer in the field of physical exercise, weight and strength training. I don't recall Pricknegger inventing anything. Jones pointed out that Arnold was a drug addict and was soliciting himself to men and had no quarrels about the gay business. Hahaha! At the time, Arnold reached out to Arthur for a job, and he was turned down
There were so many other Bodybuilder that were miles ahead of arnold during his competition time....arnie at the height of his BB career... wouldn't even cut the classic physique top 10 nowadays days
I have a picture with Arnold Schwarzenegger. My father, brother and myself played a round of golf with him in Sun Valley Idaho. This was in the summer of 2000 and was completely unplanned and unexpected. My brother and I (15 and 17 years old) were absolutely star struck and could not believe what was happening for the hours that we experienced with Arnold. At the end of it Arnold took a picture with us. That picture really doesn’t mean anything to be anymore. Arnold has tarnished his legacy so badly that there really isn’t much of anything to respect anymore. He cheated on his wife and betrayed his family. He makes absolutely garbage movies in the last couple decades. He is a complete sellout Hollywood liberal (“screw your freedoms!”). He is a sellout to whoever pays him money (garbage commercials). He is a complete two-face. “You can die a hero or live long enough to watch yourself become the villain”.
I've seen mike mentzer in person and talked to him. He was thick headed. He never had what it took to beat Arnold physically and mentally.He couldn't hold a candle to Arnold.
@@oDnju And then you woke up with sawdust everywhere. Lol! Mike could use Arnold's legs to pick his teeth with. Arnold had the worst legs ever from an Olympia (Dumbo Columbo, next in line).
Arnie knew how to play the game, master at getting in your head, he spoke about this in pumping iron. Mike was 100% more conditioned, but it's like batman trying to tell off the Joker 😂
@@lostintime519 Once again, "Nah" is the centerpiece of your line of reasoning. You simply cannot explain anything. Permanent eclipse of intelligence. Poor fella
Sorry…I have done it all. I know what being in shape is and what it takes…I don’t care about organizations or a debate. Agree….. 1980 Arnold was Hollywood looking good but not for Mr. Olympia. Prior,to that the 70s….he was a beast and deserved it. Arnie did look good in 1980 as well but…not his top at all. He was top prior to that every year..no debate. Lou was the biggest nastiest body builder in my opinion. Not just huge and well defined…Lou was so…so strong. Super strong. Nobody was as strong as Lou and I love Arnold. Mike probably should have won 1980
@edntz 40 to 50% of the audience booing, is alot considering it was for the almighty Arnold. They booed him because he looked like refried fudge pac. They kept booing him when he made his accepting speech. He won the most controversial, debatable BB contest in history
Nothing to do with bodybuilding... but in 2013, i only trained 4 weeks prior to a 21 km race. My first one in 25 years. And i completed it! Most people would have been out of breath after the first 10 km.
Danny Padilla himself has gone on record to say that perhaps Arnold was in good enough shape to pull out the win. Danny of course is one of the real straight shooters from the golden era and his opinion is tops IMO. I would say that his aesthetics were good his definition and conditioning were certainly good but he was severely deficient in back, legs and triceps overall thickness and probably shouldn't have won this show. Thanks be to Joe Wider for effectively pretty much ruining Bodybuilding for his biased support for Arnold as well as lack of control for steroidal and PED rampant use.
If Arnold only trained 6weeks if he had 6months then he would have been victorious on all accounts. I’m not sided him just stating that he did look pretty dame good for hat short time but Mike looked in peak shape.
I’ve heard it said that Arnold got a perfect score proposes he didn’t even perform. That would be like a figure skater jumping on a pommel horse when it’s their turn to perform and spinning around on the pommel horse and then getting a perfect score for figure skating. It’s preposterous. It’s not a question of the other competitors being sore losers it’s just a matter of complete and utter corruption. Disgusting really
Mike should've just forget the pass and share the glory of victory from helping Dorian Yates achieve mass monster that year when he won his first Mr Olympia. That hate and burden he carried plus his prescription killed him
Barely alive. Almost died in the mid 90's because all of the drugs and PEDS he was consuming when he was competing. Just got fitted for a pacemaker a few days ago. Nice going, Arnie
@@lateralus2199Yup, not to mention the heart operation he had a while ago. Seems like his heart is giving out, and dude is trying to advertise a healthy living by just doing light weights and cardio to extend the life of his heart.
@@LuciaGTAVI665 Exactly! Several heart surgeries. Can't eat meat as well (doctors told him to stop consuming meat) and is on a crusade against predacious consumption. Supporter of The World Economic Forum where they approve of eating insects over eating meats. Let's not forget Arnie's cigar smoking practices.
Popularity was the key factor for Arnold which other competitor dont have. Arnold was supposed to be a judge at Olympia 1980 but it turned out that he decided to become a contestant . The money from the sponsorship essential for any competition like Mr Olympia.
That's bodybuilding and he is more saleable and chest, arms training doesn't need to look painfully harder than what it seems, when Arnold training applied
Unfortunately, bodybuilding is a subjective sport. Judges are human and can be influenced like any of us. Arnolds height (Mentzer was only 5'8"), winning history, and other attributes probably played a role as well as Joe Weider. Arnold wasn't above using politics to his advantage. That said, he's still the GOAT and did a lot to popularize the sport imo.
@@Thunderpussy1234 Daaamn dude,simmer down ! Wha'd Franco ever do to you¡?😂 Good point, but Franco never won against Arnold. If it was totally rigged, I don't blame the competitors. It would have been Joe Weider. I guess I'm not sure where the line is between heavily influenced and totally fixed. 🤔
Apparently, Arnold's late entrance into the 1980 Mr was outside the rules also.
@holmofrur yeah the rules didn't apply to Arnold, if it had been Mike or anyone other then Arnold they would have been disqualified immediately
Yep im pretty sure he joined like a week before it was olympia. Others have to join like months before
@@N0R5K sounds about right
@@holmofrur whatever, say why you want, he was onstage flexing like all the rest regardless; he stood up and competed, and took the prize… ‘81 was way more controversial with Platz and Padilla - Franco’s win was a joke… Padilla was never better!
" There is a lot of politics and when i call it politics, i mean corruption..." wisest words ever
Politics is just another word for corruption.
❤ for Heavy duty "Mentzer"
Great video. Mike should posthumously be awarded the 80 Olympia.
💯
Ifbb has always been a joke ,the public finally got exposed to this over the years.
Politics may sometimes play a role in sports, but not all the time
@@HulktubeMotivation When there's large sums of money at stake - EVERY TIME.
@@HulktubeMotivation Completely truth!
Arnold taught us the stength of networking over hardwork.
yep sure did
So you’re saying he didn’t work hard?
@@im_ericgarciahe was on roids didn’t work as hard as mike he was a bully
Im sure he had people do favors for the judges!
@@getupwithmelolthey were all on roids
Thanks Mike,you never threatened to screw an individual's freedom
R.I.P. to Mike he was a legend hands down
I have been a devotee of Arnold and his training philosophy. Now that I've got that out of the way, I believe his best showings were '72,'74, and '75. In 1980, he looked like a shadow of himself. He was in Hollywood shape, but not competition shape. He wasn't ready. He allegedly trained for eight weeks for the contest. This is after a five year retirement. Eight weeks? I don't think so.
He pulled out all the stops, the judges were also good friends of Arnold. I don't recall if he had a had in promotion as well. Let's face it, Mentzer was the best physique that day, not Arnold.
Good point, m
Look what Kevin Lee one did in about 3 months after many many years off..
“Impossible” is a matter of perspective..
@MrGlock86 good point, m
@Mantastic-ho3vm good observation, I suppose it also comes down to what genetics nature gives one, in order to stand a chance in becoming a champion, m
@Mantastic-ho3vm So arnold had it all than all the other body builders in that stage ?...Stop the cap fool.
I'm not a big Arnold fan. In the body building world it's all about politics. Plain and simple. Sergio Oliva found that out the hard way as well.
The true winner was MIKE MENTZER, He may have lost due to politics, But he left us with HEAVY DUTY TRAINING. And HIS LEGACY. And ifbb can never do anything about THAT.
Mike mentzer was greater than arnold i met him at the nabba mr universe and he was great to talk to his legacy will live on.
How many movies Mentzer make? Case closed
@@yeahsure9759first off... No one looks up to Arnold as an actor. Never. Ever. 😂 And now and for awhile Arnold's ways in lifting have been known and most just see him as the physique. Mikes was better, but due to the politics ...he was pushed out of people's minds... But now his actual philosophy and ways of lifting are being looked at... Arnold, yes is rich and rich. Horrible actor. Horrible politician, and yea....
Didn't he cheat on his wife with the cleaning lady too😂 had her bent into the ficus ...wonder if he had any trips to Epstein Island like the other hollyweirds
@@yeahsure9759 Read your comment, man. It's completely irrelevant. It's equivalent to saying that the Rock was a better wrestler than John Cena because he was in more movies. Additionally, recordings have been released proving Weider's corruptness in the bodybuilding industry. Also, Arnold was a kiss a** personally meddling with the federation. I'm not saying that Mentzer should have won, but there's many reasons why this very situation is a controversy. In the 1980 competition in particular, Arnold came out of retirement with a poor physique compared to his past self and won. Mentzer was not the only bodybuilder who should have beaten Arnold that day.
Arnold was soft 1980 - everyone else on stage looks tremendous.
@@oDnjuArnold lost his family because he couldn't keep his snake in his pants. All because he all about himself. He's guilty of doing horrific acts. He has no human dignity whatsoever
@@oDnjuhow so? Elaborate
There needs to be a federation as big as the Ifbb to give competitors a choice.
It's like saying there needs to be two world cups and fifa has to have competition.
There is NABBA remember Joe Wieder entered the Nabba Mr Universe but never won it.
Im currently working on making that happen brotha, stay tuned
3:00 - "...GEARING up for this event..."
You beat me to it lol.
Mike got the last laugh when he took Dorian Yates under his wing. He helped Dorian become Mr Olympia and proved that the heavy duty principles work.
@@oDnju Blah blah blah
@@oDnjuWeider made sure of that.
Dorian only met Mike twice and was weighing 275lbs at the time and Dorian has said although they shared similar training philosophy he felt to win the Olympia he did six working sets for each body part whereas Mike only did 1 or 2 Working sets …. He said at no time was Mike his trainer and both Mike and Dorian used the training philosophy of Arthur jones the original creator of HIT
Stop the glazing
@@oDnjuof course, weiders champ, weiders universe, but in a Multiverse, He gonna be the Champ.
Congratulations to Arnold’s mates for placing Arnold in 1st place , you must be really proud of yourselfs. 👏
Bro is acting like he met him😂
Arnold is an ass-creeper and was backed-up by a strong Lobby which made him win and also became Governor later on.
Mentzer was the real hero and left the HEAVY DUTY behind, wich is a treasure..
RIP Mike!!
Àss creeper? Damn!
Mike Mentzer looked the best symmetrical body he looked incredible. And I can say I'm using his techniques and I can see incredible growth from working out once every 7-10 days. I'm blown away from the difference
@brycecampbell4845
Day 9 is Amazing. Thats when you know its real..
I'm following Mike Mentzer's Heavy Duty program for about 8 months now and I lost 15lbs of fat getting into 15%-16% bf and my physique looks amazing. I'm not sure how to post my photo here though.
@bbreon75 Congrats on that. I've been eating plant based for a while now.. and coupling that with mentzer's philosophy on intensity, training to muscle failure, and recovery have opened my eyes on to what true physical (and mental) growth can look like.
@@oDnju Again?
@@oDnju How old are you, kid? Does your mother know that you are up, past your bedtime, using her laptop?
Did you see that lineup of bodybuilders, that has to be the best lineup of all-time.💯
Mike Mentzer. Anytime🙇🏻♂️
They're fixed to the point where no man or woman wants to compete in bodybuilding. The Powers That Be and their "champions" want to weed out who think is worthy of being a winner and knock the competition down
Was a crime Mentzer didn't win this one. Arnold's upper legs and chest presented no where near show ready
Mentzer should've won the 1980 Mr. OLYMPIA hands down.
He was 5th lol. Dickerson Zane boyler all looked better.
@@aaronperez6379Nope
Mentzer had the better physique.
arnold is a dirty guy. he also fixed 1981 for franco to win
Facts
With the finest gynecomastia you’ve ever seen. Probably the most obvious set up win in bodybuilding history.
And in ‘76
This had created a stigma in bodybuilding with Joe Weider being fully aware, the judges according to rumors were changed by Weider to favor Arnold , with Weider it was bout the publication sales, and Arnold was the "golden goose", in shape or not !!
@@lobby-3alliance196 That's exactly what John Hansen said happened at the 1972 Mr. Olympia against Sergio Oliva.......... Weider changed out the judges 5, maybe 7 times..........
Realizing this was one of the biggest disappointments of my life.
Now I just practice sports and care very little about watching professionals play or compete.
I hear ya
Most contest are fixed. Name a sport. If it has to do with money, or gambling.
its all vanity. thank GOD i didnt follow it to their extreme.
bodybuilding is not a sport. its just contest.
@@juny-r4rhow would you define a sport?
Clearly Mike was primed to win. Wieder couldn’t have that so he brought Arnold back and all the judges quit and all Arnold’s friends replaced them. It really is grotesque. Mike was the man.
Mike was the man for what? ..1 year?.. Arnold put bodybuilding on the map and won 7 olympias, sit the fuck down
@w1ldcard1986 you need to study the truth
Towards the end of the video, when they hand Mentzer his 5th Place trophy, you can see him lipping "....this is bullshit."
And it absolutely was bullshit anyone with half a brain could see it,...poor Mike! 😢
if any judges are still living, they should be interviewed and see what they have to say about that day of competition
Absolutely! Interviewing the judges who were present during the competition would provide valuable insights into their perspectives on that day's events.
They need to interview the criminal promoter, and Arnold's former, illegal business partner, Paul Graham as well
That'd be like asking a police union if a cop did anything wrong.
that would be very interesting!!
Arnold today should be interviewed on this!
Honestly Arnold was more of a bully than a champion!! if there is any chance of him loosing he will ensure the opponents are misdirected or manupulated before hand...MIKE MENTZER & KAI GREENE are peoples champions!!!❤
look at Tinerino at the 7.26 mark..looked great
He always looked fantastic, a very underrated bodybuilder
Mentzer calling out someone for abuse of stimulant drugs.
Oh the irony 😂
Arnold was about to be a international movie star. The IFBB was not about to pass up on getting massive media mention when Arnold became famous.
What’s funny is that the results of the context didn’t match the eye test to the point that CBS didn’t even air the contest after going to Australia to record the show.
He was a movie star by then, did you really think anyone was going to earn that title. 🤨
He was in movies but not a successful actor yet
MIKE....
got Arnold to SHIT UP and sit down in a corner. 😂
@invisiblerevolution - Arnold looked like a pathetic toddler getting scolded by Mike in that shot. 😂
@@motorheadforlife9431Not really. Arnold had complete control over this situation. He didn't needed to get into a fight. Mike already lost the Competition before it began.
@@sonyx4500 Oh boy, another Arnold fanboy
@@youshallnotpass2140 Another Mentzer worshipper
1980 Olympia was controversial. 1981 was an outright crime. That one left no question what Arnold was capable of.
Arnold Schwarzenfreedom will go down in history as being the maskinator
Mike! In my eyes..IS THE CHAMP! Mike you are a legend..
Arnold was given the title to help promote his upcoming Conan movie. Joe Weider’s decision
absolutely
Yeah its called rigging the contest
Serge Nubret and Frank Zane was the greatest aesthetiks athletics for all time.
Arnold was a Close friend of Joe Weider, he sky rocket Arnold career in every aspect. He decided who would be the winner in the Mr Olimpia.
Arnold was a friend of a judge! He will tell you rhat he took.every advantage!
Iirc, all seven judges were his close friends and former/ current business partners. Others associated with the contest, if they spoke up against Arnold, they were good as gone the next day. Arnold may have had a hand in the promotion of the contest, iirc....if Arnold could have packed the Opera house with his friends and numerous fans, he would have found a way to do it.
Arnold has always been prepared to do whatever it took to win.
Mike was Big too, but Arnold's muscle was way more conditioned. The high volume training set Arnold's muscles into another sphere.
Mike Mentzer body building philosophy works.
The 1980 Olympia was fixed.... Arnold was nowhere near the condition he was in when he won his last Olympia in 1975...
Mike Mentzer and Frank Zane have always been superior to Arnold. And their training methods are much more effective than Arnold's (I've tried them both), we're talking about science here, muscle and brain combined. Respect to Mr Mentzer, I follow his heavy duty program.
May mike rest in peace a true legend who was robbed in my eyes he deserved much more
Arnold was a guy who just wanted it all.. He said he was gonna retire after the 1975 Olympia and he should've done so.. It wasn't enough that he was on his way to being a box office Hollywood movie star but he had to come back to the Olympia to and steal the spotlight from the other bodybuilders.. In my opinion he didn't deserve to win the 80 Mr Olympia.. But I would still rather have Arnold's 1980 physique than anybody else's onstage that year just because of his sheer physical size and height.. In many ways he still did look like a true champion despite his condition being off..
Hope everyone in the comments has an awesome 🙌 day 👌
you too mate
@@HulktubeMotivation thank you 🙏
If you're in a bar and someone looks at you like that expect trouble 😂
0:22
Arnold's double biceps shot was far more aesthetic, heavy and powerful than any other bodybuilder. In fact his whole posing routine was better. He knew how to hide the weak points and repeat the most powerful poses. Moreover he had a grace which any other bodybuilder was deprived of.
Hahaha!
Unfortunately I agree.
Charming? Find a different word please
@@Lousy-Looter who used the word charming by the way?
@rizjahangir okay then how is this...charm? Find a different word please
Both worked they just didn't get on. Steroids helped plus they trained on top of using. Mike died an addict Arnie had heart problems. Both looked great Both paid a price Arnie still with us. Both huge in the sport.
Really irritating how you show Mike's younger brother Ray at different points when you are talking about Mike.
I liked what Arthur Jones said about Arnold when Weirdnegger tried to work for him, "Arnold and his longtime friend Franco Columbu visited us in Lake Helen in November of 1970, and sitting in the living room of my house Arnold told some terrible stories about Joe Weider and Joe’s wife Betty, while working for Weider. Arnold was a homosexual prostitute, a drug user and drug pusher and made no bones about it at the time; so, later, when he tried to get me to hire him I turned him down." Lol!
Nobody cares about hypocrite Arthur Jones. Arnold made 100 times the money he did.
@@sonyx4500 Looky! The worthless Arnold minion is back from the cesspool of the local sewer. Apparently people do care what Arthur had to say or what he preached. He the inventor of the Nautilus exercise machines. Jones was a pioneer in the field of physical exercise, weight and strength training. I don't recall Pricknegger inventing anything. Jones pointed out that Arnold was a drug addict and was soliciting himself to men and had no quarrels about the gay business. Hahaha! At the time, Arnold reached out to Arthur for a job, and he was turned down
There were so many other Bodybuilder that were miles ahead of arnold during his competition time....arnie at the height of his BB career... wouldn't even cut the classic physique top 10 nowadays days
Today's bodybuilders look terrible as if they were inflated with a tire pump. Disgusting drugs
Its not like he wasnt already still huge during the conan filming.
I have a picture with Arnold Schwarzenegger. My father, brother and myself played a round of golf with him in Sun Valley Idaho. This was in the summer of 2000 and was completely unplanned and unexpected. My brother and I (15 and 17 years old) were absolutely star struck and could not believe what was happening for the hours that we experienced with Arnold. At the end of it Arnold took a picture with us.
That picture really doesn’t mean anything to be anymore. Arnold has tarnished his legacy so badly that there really isn’t much of anything to respect anymore. He cheated on his wife and betrayed his family. He makes absolutely garbage movies in the last couple decades. He is a complete sellout Hollywood liberal (“screw your freedoms!”). He is a sellout to whoever pays him money (garbage commercials). He is a complete two-face.
“You can die a hero or live long enough to watch yourself become the villain”.
Probably cheated in your golf game as well
Mike won plane & simple. Politics.
I've seen mike mentzer in person and talked to him. He was thick headed. He never had what it took to beat Arnold physically and mentally.He couldn't hold a candle to Arnold.
Yes he did and yes he could, and just because you met him doesn't prove anything, that is if you even actually have met him
@@Lousy-Looter Yea, right! I met him in Gold's Gym Venice in front of the standing calf raise machine.
@TheBestthaiboxer well good for you, alot of people would love to have met him but won't get the chance
Mike was obviously dialed in and was huge that chest those arms Arnold was strung out like a skinny chicken
at least 3 of the men on stage were on blow.
No legs
@@oDnju And then you woke up with sawdust everywhere. Lol! Mike could use Arnold's legs to pick his teeth with. Arnold had the worst legs ever from an Olympia (Dumbo Columbo, next in line).
Arnolds Calves were stillk very good tho
@@Trendle222 So? His thighs were long and lanky and resembled pool sticks. Thighs are suppose to be bigger than calves. His were the opposite
Arnold was a master of psychological warfare.
Arnold no full overall package that day and it showed.
Arnold looks much bigger than anyone.
Arnie knew how to play the game, master at getting in your head, he spoke about this in pumping iron. Mike was 100% more conditioned, but it's like batman trying to tell off the Joker 😂
Charm make him won and not just the physique after all
Charm? Try a different word please
He won fair. He's Arnold, that can easily cloud the perception of any person, especially the ones during his time. He was a superstar.
Elaborate
@@lateralus2199 n a h
@@lostintime519 Why? Because you can't? Let's see
@@lateralus2199 n a h, because i already did.
@@lostintime519 Once again, "Nah" is the centerpiece of your line of reasoning. You simply cannot explain anything. Permanent eclipse of intelligence. Poor fella
Sorry…I have done it all. I know what being in shape is and what it takes…I don’t care about organizations or a debate. Agree….. 1980 Arnold was Hollywood looking good but not for Mr. Olympia. Prior,to that the 70s….he was a beast and deserved it. Arnie did look good in 1980 as well but…not his top at all. He was top prior to that every year..no debate. Lou was the biggest nastiest body builder in my opinion. Not just huge and well defined…Lou was so…so strong. Super strong. Nobody was as strong as Lou and I love Arnold. Mike probably should have won 1980
We all know if was fixed in 80 & 81
Great video
I wouldn't be surprised if Don King was there greasing the judges and Joe Wieder so Arnold would win.
Of COURSE the competitors (sore losers) didn't see him as a winner.
And neither did the audience in which he was booed mercilessly by 40 to 50% by the audience, when he was declared the winner.
@Mantastic-ho3vm Wrong!
@Mantastic-ho3vm How so, dimwit?
@edntz 40 to 50% of the audience booing, is alot considering it was for the almighty Arnold. They booed him because he looked like refried fudge pac. They kept booing him when he made his accepting speech. He won the most controversial, debatable BB contest in history
God bless you, Mike. Ahead of your time. Just like Robbie
Nothing has changed. Just look at last year's Olympia.
Whose the shorter guy in the back shot at 1:09 - 1:10? That is insane level of back development in any era let alone that era. Wow!!!
Tom Platz
He means the short black guy. Tom Platz probably had the weakest back among them all@@crownshep
That’s Chris Dickerson
looks like Danny Paddia
Looks like Mr. Olivia
Mike was way better than Arnold and that was the biased and corrupted contest in history. Arnold didn't deserved the win
Nothing to do with bodybuilding... but in 2013, i only trained 4 weeks prior to a 21 km race. My first one in 25 years. And i completed it! Most people would have been out of breath after the first 10 km.
Danny Padilla himself has gone on record to say
that perhaps Arnold was in good enough shape to
pull out the win. Danny of course is one of the real
straight shooters from the golden era and his
opinion is tops IMO. I would say that his aesthetics
were good his definition and conditioning were
certainly good but he was severely deficient in back,
legs and triceps overall thickness and probably
shouldn't have won this show. Thanks be to Joe
Wider for effectively pretty much ruining
Bodybuilding for his biased support for Arnold as
well as lack of control for steroidal and PED
rampant use.
Mike came in 5th not second.
Robbed of nothing.
Thats the point he was more than robbed, he got totally bamboozled
Maybe Arnold killed Mike and Ray.
No. They absolutely destroyed themselves with their drug abuse.
These days anything is possible
Absolutely he carries responsibility for their deaths
💊💊💊💊💊💊💊💊
Screw your freedoms- Arnold
Mentzers triceps,wow!
So Mike Menzer's perfect 300 score was fixed too. Ok.
5 hours Day training way to mutch
Yet the next year Franco won with gyno and a bad bicep! Go figure
No legs also. 🍗
In a contest promoted by his best friend. How convenient
If Arnold only trained 6weeks if he had 6months then he would have been victorious on all accounts. I’m not sided him just stating that he did look pretty dame good for hat short time but Mike looked in peak shape.
I’ve heard it said that Arnold got a perfect score proposes he didn’t even perform. That would be like a figure skater jumping on a pommel horse when it’s their turn to perform and spinning around on the pommel horse and then getting a perfect score for figure skating. It’s preposterous. It’s not a question of the other competitors being sore losers it’s just a matter of complete and utter corruption. Disgusting really
Mike should've just forget the pass and share the glory of victory from helping Dorian Yates achieve mass monster that year when he won his first Mr Olympia. That hate and burden he carried plus his prescription killed him
arnold the professional bullshitter
But he is still alive and training 🤔😁
Mentzer is a piece of crap. Not worthy of an opponent for Arnold.
Barely alive. Almost died in the mid 90's because all of the drugs and PEDS he was consuming when he was competing. Just got fitted for a pacemaker a few days ago. Nice going, Arnie
@@lateralus2199Yup, not to mention the heart operation he had a while ago. Seems like his heart is giving out, and dude is trying to advertise a healthy living by just doing light weights and cardio to extend the life of his heart.
@@LuciaGTAVI665 Exactly! Several heart surgeries. Can't eat meat as well (doctors told him to stop consuming meat) and is on a crusade against predacious consumption. Supporter of The World Economic Forum where they approve of eating insects over eating meats. Let's not forget Arnie's cigar smoking practices.
I've heard, on the grape vine, Arnie wrecked shoulders all over the world with the "Arnie Press"
You can clearly see mike say... "Bullsht"
YALL KNOW WHAT ARNOLD DID TO FRANK ZANE FROM 1969 TO 1975? HE LAID THE SMACK DOWN!!!!!!! WHY NOT DO IT AGAIN!!!!! LOOOL
What did Arnold do to Frank Zane?
Popularity was the key factor for Arnold which other competitor dont have. Arnold was supposed to be a judge at Olympia 1980 but it turned out that he decided to become a contestant .
The money from the sponsorship essential for any competition like Mr Olympia.
Mike really knew what he was doing thats why he died much to young wake up people.
That's bodybuilding and he is more saleable and chest, arms training doesn't need to look painfully harder than what it seems, when Arnold training applied
1:43 Looking at the top guys right there it isn't too far fetched that Arnold deserved to win.
Unfortunately, bodybuilding is a subjective sport. Judges are human and can be influenced like any of us. Arnolds height (Mentzer was only 5'8"), winning history, and other attributes probably played a role as well as Joe Weider. Arnold wasn't above using politics to his advantage. That said, he's still the GOAT and did a lot to popularize the sport imo.
Arnold's boy toy best friend Franco Columbu won 2 Olympia's.. and he was only 5'5"..!
It's totally rigged.
@@Thunderpussy1234 Daaamn dude,simmer down ! Wha'd Franco ever do to you¡?😂
Good point, but Franco never won against Arnold. If it was totally rigged, I don't blame the competitors. It would have been Joe Weider. I guess I'm not sure where the line is between heavily influenced and totally fixed. 🤔
PAUL GRAHAM the promoter of the contest was Arnold's very good friend and frequent houseguest for many years...
@@Thunderpussy1234Great point
Even arnold prepaird very short time,. Clearly he was the most beautiful body that time..