Merseyside Monster! The Man Who PUSHED Klopp Out, TURNED OFF Alonso, SCHOOLED Amorim, & FOUND Slot
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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2024
- In the world of football, managerial departures often come with whispers of behind-the-scenes drama. Join us as we delve into the my theory surrounding Jurgen Klopp's abrupt exit from Liverpool FC and the pivotal role played by Michael Edwards, the club's controversial figure in the background.
Known for his polarizing methods in the transfer market, Michael Edwards has been hailed as a genius by some and criticized by others for his hands-on approach, often sidelining the manager's vision in favor of his own strategies. Could Edwards' control over the club's footballing direction have been the catalyst for Klopp's departure?
But the story doesn't end there. Delve deeper, and you'll uncover how this same dynamic may have influenced other key figures' decisions. Take Xabi Alonso, for example, who seemed destined to succeed Klopp at Liverpool. However, his decision to stay at Bayer Leverkusen could be linked to Edwards' management style, signaling a rift in the club's hierarchy.
And let's not forget Ruben Amorim, whose U-turn in negotiations with Liverpool, opting to leverage the West Ham job for a better deal, sheds light on the power play between managers and executives within the footballing world. Ultimately, Edwards appointed Arne Slot, potentially signaling a shift towards a more compliant managerial figure.
Join us as we unravel the complex web of relationships and power dynamics at Liverpool FC, exploring how Michael Edwards' influence may have shaped the club's recent decisions and impacted its future direction. Don't miss out on this intriguing analysis of the unseen forces driving one of football's most storied institutions.
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I enjoyed this video. You talk a great deal of sense. I'm gonna mention this video and your channel to my subs today. YNWA.
You sent me here Dunk
Came here from Dunk's channel as well. Enjoyed the vid.
Thanks Dunk
Come from DKBs channel
@@lfcspectre4335top lad proper klopper 👍💪👊
What heard was the Bellingham debacle wad the final straw for klopp with FSG. Klopp had met Bellingham and his family, his dad is his manager. So klopp met them on numerous occasions and basically had it that Bellingham would join liverpool last summer. Promises and a handshake etc. That is why it was talked about so much last season. It had basically been agreed behind the scenes. Come last summer , FSG went back on thier Word, saying they did not have the money to buy Bellingham and pay the wage he would command. They said they wouldn't be able to buy anymore players, he would take the whole transfer budget. This was contrary to what they had previously told klopp. That's why we bought other players, such as mac allister and szobozslai and then all of a sudden we had 120 million to buy caicedo. FSG hadn't realised how much they had upset klopp with the Bellingham promise so tried to back pedal in coming up with the money for caicedo. I live in Liverpool and this is what has supposedly been leaked by someone who works in the upper staff of LFC. Whether it's true I don't know but it does make some sense. Last season a lot of football commentators were saying Bellingham to Liverpool was a done deal
A month after Bellingham was unveiled at Madrid we started selling our midfielders to Saudi.
After that we had 100m to spend.
That’s the gap in your story - when we were going for Bellingham we probably didn’t have the money. After we sold a bunch of players we did same way how “all of a sudden” we had money for VVD and Allison after we sold Coutinho.
Bellingham was always going to Real Madrid. There was never any concrete confirmation that Liverpool was his first choice.
For something to keep our eye on when the documentary and more memoirs come out. Especially given that you heard it close from the source. All we can do for now is theorize as to what could be going on right? Ahahaha I for sure had the feeling Bellingham was 100% coming. I just felt it. And when Madrid got him I was gutted and wondered what happened man.
@@chilled99 Just remembering the sale of Coutinhio and the buying of Virgil and Allison makes me smile. Thanks for the memory.
We shouldn’t be buying stars or expensive starlets, it’s not the best use of our limited funds. We need to make stars not buy them.
Good insights again...not getting these ideas from anywhere else. I think you are 100% on target with your comments on the US sports/moneyball model comparison.
Thank you my friend! 🙏🏾🙏🏾Something I noticed and I thought I’d share some of my thoughts. FSG LOVES money ball. There is actually a whole movie behind it and John W Henry (or his character) is actually in it. It does a good job of explaining how Liverpool moves through the story of the Oakland As. Good watch.
@@UNCONFORMEDCF Seen it ! Great movie !
Everything you said fits. I'm in the US and know how cheap FSG are. I also think they lied to Klopp about Bellingham to keep him in place.
Edwards brought Bobby in over Rodgers’s objections. He also brought Salah in when Klopp wanted Mario Gotze. I was greatly relieved when I heard ME was coming back. He will make a lot of decisions that will benefit the club long term.
Edwards also wanted Son and we ended up with Lallana
Edwards sees things other people don’t and I think that’s why FSG LOVE the man. It fits them so well. He is just so ruthless and I think that may be off putting to some. But I think that may be the way to go moving forward.
I never knew this info.
@@sebastianvella8992 I didnt know that bit about Son either
@@UNCONFORMEDCF well with Son we would have won all 3 Champions League Finals and not just one.
You've got this way too twisted around man.
Klopp had his mind made up before the season began. Even if he didnt, he was teetering right on the edge.
Edwards wasn't even approached until 2024.
The hints of Klopp's burn out have been there ever since Covid, he simply hasn't been the same guy since 2020. Delegating the League Cup to Ljinders should have been the first hint. No other manager or head coach does that.
Edwards is an analytical genius and I fully welcome him back. Our recruitment and general function off the field just hasn't been the same without him.
I don’t think you are wrong! But we don’t know what’s actually going on behind the scenes! The documentary will for sure tell all. And LFC show us what they want to show us. They do an amazing job of not airing their dirty laundry.
I just find it hard to believe that the Edwards appointment was only worked on for a month or so. I 100% believe they had been working on that for a while. And knowing FSG. They were. Just because we found out about it in 2024 means nothing.
And I never said Edwards want a Genius. He is VERY good at what he does. And I look forward to see what he pulls off. But I do think that the way he moves doesn’t always please everyone.
I think it’s fair to believe his theory could be true too. We are told what they want us to know at the club. To believe every media release is childish.
Edwards is a genius and Klopp is the man! Not hard to believe that they could’ve clashed at some point!
@@UNCONFORMEDCF that's a fair point about the potential groundwork FSG laid to get Edwards back, but I just think that Klopp's resignation and Edwards' return are more mutually exclusive than some speculate.
If Klopp was still hanging around then I don't believe Edward would have come back, because he definitely felt incompatible with Klopp's growing power base. This is probably what prompted Ward to quit so quickly too.
But Klopp's resignation has nothing to do with Edwards, he's been more and more mentally checked out every year since Covid. And what most people seem to have forgotten, is that when Klopp was hired way back in 2015, he noted that he didn't see himself staying for longer than 8 or 9 years.
@@nichobee agreed
Facts mate the fact we’re getting a ‘head coach’ not a manager tells you everything you need to know they’re looking for a Yes man
Literally every club in Europe is run like that. Madrid? Run like that. A long term structure is needed. Slot isn’t a yes man, he likely agrees that if he requires a type of player profile, that the recruitment and analysis team can offer the best options. As opposed to himself. He should focus on tactics and coaching, not player analysis.
Klop was a yes man too and btw isn't he who brought this " needs to learn how to finish" type of forwards?
@@scotgeez4755 I wish I was as hopeful as you but the facts are FSG don’t like the fact Klopp had so much power, your using Madrid as a reference and it’s an awful one at that a club basically owned by the Spanish government that’s strategy is throw daft money at generational talents something fsg are too cheap to do (Jude Bellingham as example) so again awful reference and this is the premier league we’re talking about the most competitive league in the world so you can pipe FSG off all you want mate they’re throwing us into a Rodgers like era again 👍🏼
@@abonikekupya8210 1 bad signing for nearly a decade of service bringing us back from the very bottom to where we are now? Watching that benfica game against us who didn’t want Nunez? Fsg wanted nkunku instead of Darwin he’s been injured half the season?
@@RoryJb aah come so who signed wijnaldum origi shaqiri Robertson van djik Alison jota minamino mane bobby and Salah was it klop and linders? Edwards has the good eye to search for good players tell me any of the strikers I mentioned that you'll teach how score, but since the beginning how many times did you say that the forward line needs to learn how to finish? Is Liverpool the team to learn that? Don't forget nkunku without injury is far better than Nunez in terms of talent
Omg buddy, you took the thoughts right out my mouth and mind because before we heard that Edward's was confirmed, klopps thoughts were to extend, but almost immediately, klopp decided to leave
What got me is when they said Slot would be a head coach and not a manager! I was like what’s going on here and then it all starting making sense to me. Edwards is the big man on campus now. And hopefully he can work his magic with Kloppo leaving.
But Edwards was there, working with klopp for years, between them we got mane, Salah, Alison, VVD, Roberts and built our best team under those 2?
But they were under 30 then
Right it made sense then. Not now. He’d never sign those players now.
Right! They are in that age range he loves to play in and most of them were undervalue too. If he had stayed in charge I couldn’t imagine Salah getting that extension and he probably be off playing in Saudi already.
@@LilbrRoBased I 🤔 think there will be a clear out in the summer- no new contracts for the over 30
@@UNCONFORMEDCF Ain't no way he'd have gone to Saudi at that age. He'd likely have gone to PSG IMO, or maybe even Newcastle. I'm sure he thinks it's too soon even now, so there's no chance whatsoever that he'd have gone 3 years ago. He's still capable of playing at Champions League level, so why would he go and semi-retire in Saudi?
Hello mate. Don't know if you're aware Dunk at KopTalk is promoting this vid on his channel. Don't know if you know that channel, I think you might like it for LFC news. Great vid by the way.
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Yes!!! Just found out about that. Dunk is the man and I subbed right away. He is Straight forward and no antics. I love it. 🔥 YNWA 🔥
@@UNCONFORMEDCF That's great news YNWA
I thought it was funny Klopp said he was leaving before the end of the season that it wasn’t something he'd do. Trye he looks tired but wouldn't he have felt that in the summer?- what you say makes sense. On Twitter fans were saying if Edwards came back we wouldn't have Alonso, its all making sesnse now.
Exactly, I just started putting 2 & 2 together and was like waittttt there may be something more here. I may be wrong!!! lol but I think ME is a beast and wants Control and that throws a lot of managers off.
@@UNCONFORMEDCF I think 🤔 this won't end well.
@@Resgerr I hope it does. But I don’t knowwwww 😭
No one man is bigger than Liverpool. Let’s not forget we were atrocious last season and didn’t look convincing with this. Which seem odd as we’ve lost only 4 games but defensively woeful. Things needed a shake. Klopp was out of ideas
Edwards also had big issues with Rodgers too, if you look in the history of that too. Rodgers leaked story to the press attacking edwards after he was sacked
Yes. And I think that’s why he went with more of a coach that is willing to submit this time around And a bigger role. So none of that happens moving forward. He is essentially “the boss” now!
Rogers wanted to be responsible for purchasing - I'm not sure how well that would have worked out.
Excellent analysis thank you
No problem! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Another solid analysis! Super fair to believe this theory could be true! I think that Documentary will tell ALOT about what’s unexplained. YNWA!
Good analysis and could be so true as could be the other guys thoughts about Bellingham I'd heard that Salah wasn't Klopps first choice and obviously Nunez was, because Edwards wasnt there . Maybe if this 3 way partnership with Slot , Edwards and Hughes can work we might get somewhere near replacing the irreplaceable Klop. Keep the videos coming, thanks
Will do! And I pray these 3 can work magic. I have positive feelings about all 3 for sure, just some worries knowing how great Klopp has been for us. But we are in a new age now!
Came here after a shoutout from Dunc on Koptalk.
I agree with you, I believe Michael Edwards returning is a factor in Klopp’s decision to leave. Unlike a lot of fans, I’m not overly thrilled with Edwards coming back in this new overreaching role. Obviously we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes, but his return seems disruptive, especially considering how things have gone with the hiring of the next “head coach”. I don’t for a second believe Alonso wasn’t our number one target and maybe this set up with Edwards didn’t sit well with him. Perhaps it was a factor in Amorim demanding such a high wage. I’m just not sure I like it. We have a guy who wants to be LFC manager without actually being the manager. What happens when things go wrong? Will the “head coach” get the boot, or will it fall-back on Edwards? I don’t think things will necessarily be smooth sailing, as we signed some absolutely abysmal players with him leading the scouting and I just feel splitting up the role of manager will just lead to Slot being the fall guy.
Will this be successful? Who knows, but it’s evident that it’s off putting for top coaching talent.
Spot onnnnnnn. Could 100% be why Amorim asked for more “if I’m going to have no control over my squad then I need more compensation” type of thing. The most thing in common with Xabi and him they both play a unique system that need specific players and if they can’t go out and get they players they want and need. It would be hard for their systems to work.
We will see if the Edwards method full tilt works!!! I have hope that it will given his track record.
Personally I don’t believe that, think Klopp being too loyal to dross like Milner and hendo, being stubborn and not willing to allow more squad turnover and pulling rank. Is the real reason Edwards left.
Klopp looks genuinely knackered, he’s taken on too much being essentially the sporting director as well as manager in the last few years. He is burnt out, our energy and tactics reflect that.
Tbh, even if Edward’s coming back is the reason Klopp is leaving. A change is needed, even if Klopp was staying we’d need new ideas (new assistant manager for example) as our tactics have been quite shit all season, carried by individuals.
Good video tho, appreciate a different take and no club bootlicking!
I don't think you are wrong here! And I appreciate you stopping in my man! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
I thought Edwards said, at the time, that he was just taking a hiatus from his job. He said it had been very intense setting up the club to make it sustainable and successful. I wouldn't swear to that. It was a while ago.
Right and I don’t doubt that was part of it. But Jurgen also said he felt we were in the middle of something and that the city gave him energy only to say the opposite the following January and announced his departure. Only those closest to the source will ever know what truely is going on at LFC. The Kings of keeping things under wraps!
"Edwards, with his thirst and desire for power and control....." I, for one, welcome Senator Palpatine as the new Liverpool Emperor!!😆
lmfaoooo Palpatine some how returned… and we love it. 😂
It's klopp who is ignorant and power hungry.
We won the league with Edwards signings. Not klopp.
Klopp wanted Gotze over Salah.
Klopp signed Nunez.
Klopp came into LFC with Vvd, Alison, salah etc.. signings all sorted by Edwards.
Even Klopp has said he's surprised how good Allison and other top signings have performed.
Klopp is so bad at understanding players, he fails time and again.
Fair Theory! Alot of things I never thought about. I love how you encourage discussion over these things and are veyr respectful about it.
its gonna be interesting how this plays out! also congrats on the video! i saw it and I was like oh my god! you truly got all the praise you deserve! keep up the hard work!
Thank you so much!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾 it’s greatly appreciated and let’s see where this goes! A lot of exciting times ahead for club and the channel.
I always thought there was more to the story than Jurgen just feeling burnout, as soon as i heard Edwards was coming back i was immediately convinced that this was the real reason for Jurgen departing. I hope FSG don't regret this decision to bring Edwards back. Great video by the way
Same here!!
Yes it’s seems obvious FSG decided to replace Klopp with Edwards. Good video!
I think you said it better than me! Ahahah didn’t realize that Klopp leaving would make Edwards the most influential man in the club. Thank you brotha 🙏🏾
@@UNCONFORMEDCF Thank you for your insight. So much bs out there. Good to see someone who can read between the lines. The latest spoof iis the ‘Salah staying’ yarn. FSG and Edwards will jump on a big offer if it comes our way…guaranteed! Peace bro
Excellent way of looking at it bro enjoyed the info and how it was broken down already subscribed and looking forward to more sence talk about our loved LFC
YNWA Bro from South London to the USA 🙏🏾
Welcome my man! Appreciate the kind words and for sure more to come! 🙌🏾
100% agree. This has been my theory ever since I heard about Edwards coming back. I was never convinced with the "lack of energy" reason. I hope Slot can function under this system. Also, there's a reason for the way this season crumbled. Lots going on in the background that will eventually find the light of day.
For sureeee. I think that doc could tell all and at the same time say absolutely nothing. Ahahah. It’s not FSG style to publicly air their laundry. But I think more memoirs like Firminos will pop up and the truth will start to come out.
Great vid and very interesting, Dunk from Koptalk recommended you.
Thank you!
Great vid bro.
Thank you my man! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
I was sent here by Koptalk TV Dunk. You made some good points pal. I'm subscribe to your channel
Than you friend! Appreciate the support! I’ll keep em coming!
@@UNCONFORMEDCF I see your a Liverpool fan making LFC content. I liked what you said here about Merseyside Monster. I believe FSG wanted Xabi Alonso as their manager with good PR behind it since Xabi Alonso is fan favourite, but when Edwards came back he had another ideas as you mentioned.
Hey there, first time here. Dunk told us to come and watch. Cheers!!!
Thanks for coming and stopping by! It’s appreciate so much! 🙏🏾
Really good summary of the situation, was sent here by Dunk, at koptalk tv.
I’ll have to go thank my man! Appreciate you letting me know!
Edwards seen to have a good eye in spotting top players,i am glad he is back.
Despite his unwavering nature I am too. I think the club needs it more than ever right now with Klopp leaving.
You make some good points. I think it's the other way around, though. I think Klopp decided to leave, and after that decision was made, the club started trying to convince Edwards to come back. I do believe that Klopp and Edwards clashed in the past and wouldn't have worked together again, especially with Edwards having even more control.
Right, and Edwards needed a manger that was going to be willing to play ball. And be a coach only and let him and Hugh’s manage the club. So they went with Slot.
Great analysis. I think we've got to be prepared for a rough time. Prior to Klopp, we were in the wilderness for many years, tried many different managers and had the whole Gillette and Hicks debacle that nearly ruined the club. I don't think it'll be that bad again but I do feel it's going to be bumpy. I definitely think there is more to Klopp leaving than just being tired. It just didn't make any sense to announce it when he did.
I think with ME in charge we should be ok! I hope he can continue to work his magic 🪄 while letting Slot thrive in the coaching only role.
I dont know what its like in the US, but here in the UK, it is VERY common for a manager to leave and take his staff with him as it is also very common for a new manager to bring in their own backroom staff. Nothing new there.
Noted! Thank you! In America a lot of the times the staff stays and only major roles get swapped (head coach assistant coach etc) performance team typically stays through coaching regime changes.
Here cos Dunk mentioned it keep up the good work DKB
Will do! 🔥
U talked about everything I was saying since the day Michael Edwards announced he’s leaving the club and when Julian Ward, his replacement, announced he’s leaving less than a year after him. Klopp n Edwards weren’t seeing eye to eye on many levels. The owners did not want to lose Edwards outright. So Edwards was on the sidelines doing other stuff when there were other big clubs interested in his services. He knew he will be back to LFC wielding more power than before. For that to happen, Klopp had to leave. FSG, like u mentioned, want to operate in a different way to the traditional Manager in charge of the club. Hopefully it’s a step forward instead of backwards.
I think this was all the plan for a while now for sure. The timing was just too perfect to be a coincidence
Big dunk at koptalk sent me here to check out your channel agree with most of what your saying I've subbed
Thank you! And Dunc is the man!!
Great video and 100% agree, just come over from Dunk at Kop talk 👍
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Great vid, interesting perspective; especially how the American model works. Dunk at KopTalk recommended this post. You might find his channel interesting too.
Yes sir! I just subscribed to his channel and have been banging his stuff. Love it!
And thank you!
I don't think we should be worried about this.
Naw I don’t think so either. I trust Edwards based off track record. But it’s something to note!
100% agree with you, it just too coincidental. Also why haven't we heard Edwards come out and say "ive had a meeting with Jurgen to see if there is anything we can do for him to stay" there's been nothing what so ever. Thanks Dunk @Koptalk for the Link to this
Dunc is the man. And appreciate the kind words!!
Very interesting video. Funny enough everything fell to pieces the second edwards coming back was confirmed. Something shifted
I never even thought of that! That’s true actually. It’s like moral went down once he got appointed. Vs when Klopp announced he would be leaving it was like jolt!
Hey, i'm here coz of KopTalk. Your theory makes a lot of sense. I'm simultaneously anxious and excited at what awaits LFC in the next few years ahead. It'll either be a great success or complete horror show.
Fingers crossed!🤞🏾
Dunk from Kop talk sent me to your channel pal 👍
Shout out to My man Dunk!!! 😂🔥 YNWA!
How I’ve *Not* seen your channel till today is nuts!! I’ve said “There’s more to this” since Klopp made his announcement. Your opinion is very interesting 👍. New sub 👍 xx
Thank you my friend! The algorithm didn’t let us down this time!! 🔥🔥
Hmmm, interesting point of view….. never believed Jurgen lacked energy, I think maybe FSG time is up….. Jurgen and the coaching team will always held in the highest esteem… Liverpool will always be their home ❤️
100% legendary coaching staff and will always be immortal at least in my heart. Gave us our best years in recent memories as fans. A true club icon 🔥🔥
Managers/coaches are traditionally the same person in UK football. On the continent it is far more common. But there have been changes in UK football. Directors of football are the in-between guys,. More often you see managers running the business and commercial side of clubs. Directors of football are in charge of acquisitions to the playing staff and coaching staff The coach just coaches the team. But there are some overlaps. A coach may have a particular player in mind, he will advise the DoF. There will be a list of alternates normally. Likewise the DoF will approach the manager and ask for funds for player. The manager and the DoF will set wage levels. in the old days, when Coach/managers, did this it would often set up fractious relations between players and coach. This would or could lead to poor performances by the team or particular players. Nowadays the coach has to be every players buddy. That is the reason for splitting the responsibilities under different management roles. The people that are hated have to be at arms length from the playing field. Gone are the days of Ferguson's hairdryer, Cloughie's roughshod workingman schtick. They couldn't get away with that in the modern game. Players would rebel and force them out of the club.
Sadly yes. And I think ME being appointed “CEO of Football” may be a way LFC is trying to forge a new way forward for the club. Taking a lot of the responsibility off the director of football and then the coach now.
It’ll be interesting to see if Arne will conform to this approach for the long term. I feel like any coach would want to have at least some degree of control over their team and the players brought in.
@@UNCONFORMEDCF A good DoF would always consult with the manager about acquisitions. Although I think everyone's hands are tied by the money ball approach. Maybe not tied but guided, more politely, by the money ball approach. If your front three, including Salah, have an average rating of 8.9 (on my imaginary scale because I don't know what ratings they use), and you sell Salah who's rating is 9.4, the other two players with ratings 8.6 and 8.7, (avg 8.9). Then you replace Salah with another 9.4 or improve with a minimum 9.4. Or you replace Salah plus one or both the others and recruit players who will maintain, or increase the 8.9 avg. That's my view of the money ball system. But you have to do it within budget.
@@happilyeggs4627 in a way thats how it works. If I'm not mistaken they do have an internal grading system they use based of specific stats and if the signing checks off those boxes and isn't above the designated price range then they are clear to move for them. the key si finding a player that does that and isnt over 60 million lol
It's time for a change, Klopp started favoring player despite not performing well.
I can’t say you are wrong!
Here thanks to Dunc's video (koptalk). Some interesting points raised in which some are reasonable and some not so.
Yes Sir Dunc! And absolutely! Thats what I made the channel for. For us fans to have differing opinions and talk about it! So I love itn
A great take on the whole "End of Klopp era". I think it sounds very plausible. The Bellingham non signing fits perfectly well into your theory as, while young, he was already a high earning, very expensive up coming player and Klopp was well invested into him joining LFC. Excellent work on your part from a US perspective and the future might very well prove you right.
Thank you!! I really do appreciate the kind words! 🙏🏾
You make some very interesting points there , guess we will never know why Klopp decided mid season to end his tenure, but these points you make are a definite possibility. Recommended from Dunk at KopTalk
Yessss. He is the man. Just subscribed to him and will be following him moving forward. Love his style!
Good vid bud Dunk at Kootalk sent me here
thank you brotha! And Big man Dunk!! 🔥🔥
Or maybe it's the other way around. Maybe Michael Edwards agreed to come back because Jurgen Klopp decided to leave the club. It seems you are right about the conflict that existed between Klopp and Edwards because neither wanted to share recruitment and club building with the other. And remember that LFC tried to woo Edwards back into the fold last year, but he wouldn't bite. Maybe he didn't come back because of Klopp's presence, but after Klopp announced he was leaving, Edwards agreed to come back. In this light, I believe that is the most plausible scenario. But I would not have thought of it had you not expressed your theory. Nice video 👍😎
It very well could be that as well! I think that also makes a ton of sense. Having Edwards come in (a popular figure) while klopp another popular figure leaves almost dampens the blow and makes it more enticing for ME to be THE GUY at the club now. . And thank you!! 🙏🏾
Good stuff mate
Thank you my man! 🙏🙏
Hi thank u for the information. I think u absolutely correct. Edward's is the main reason for our beloved KlLOPP leaving. Just like u said Klopp wanted to have control and the llast say on which player he needs not a player that is bought by Edward's and Co.. Thank u once again LFC. South Africa.
I might of read klopp all wrong. But it just doesn't sound like klopp to want total power. I'd say it was more about players. Notably Bellingham.
For sure more power over players brought in. My boy rarely got his wish on players. Nunez I’m hearing is one of the few he actually wanted and got.
This was a good video. The alleged Klopp/Edwards friction is hardly spoken of tho at the time he left, this should have been the clue that all hadn't been well. Mike Gordon then wasnt as influencial so this left Klopp. He's a man of emotion with ego. Not to detract from him, its simply what he is. He's done very well for Liverpool but he's oblivious to his own blind spots (which probably Edwards and Gordon smoothed out).
agree totally good video bro
Thank you brotha! 🙏🏾
Maybe Klopp leaving opened the door for Edwards to rejoin. FSG stood by Klopp over Edwards originally so why switch now? You gave me something to think about so thanks for the video keep up the good work YNWA 👍👍👍
Thank you my man! And Exactly it really doesn’t all add up when you really think about it. I’m sure they had their reasons. And Klopp could also be genuinely ready for something new. Which I respect. YNWA!!!
Amazing video and good analysis .....This move is associated with its risks but i think Edwards is known for getting deals through with less risk. Missing Klopp is going to be big but i think "The Monster of Merseyside " is going to the right direction. My personal view is that unlike the previous appointment of Brenden Rogers that was a nightmare just to recollect now.....this move with Slot is risky but as a fan i know theres a big safety net with Edwards and the bunch who will correct things sooner rather than later within the season and get us more aligned and focused on winning.
Its quite simple ...if FSG want to make more money , they need to do two things , become Arsen Wengers Arsenal and make money by selling players and reaching every top competition without winning much or be like Real Madrid and keep buying top players from across the world to win all top competitions can become a massive marketing money making machine ..... it would be good to see what FSG and Edwards have in mind for LFC
Thank you friend!! Klopp will be missed but let’s hope ME continues to be a genius and I think we will be ok!
Completely agree with you, I thought this some time back.
I think a lot of us did! Glad I could voice some of the things we were thinking. And appreciate you stopping in! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
There were noises recently that FSG were not happy that they were spending £110m on a player they could have bought for £5m a few years before and possibly they were also not happy that they were spending £60m in one lump sum for Szobozslai when he could have been bought before for a much lower fee.
I think at that point FSG may have decided to bring Edwards back and have him takeover from Gordon it is on record was looking to finish.
I dont buy that FSG suddenly decided to buy a football club to get Edwards to come back 2-3 weeks after he knocked back his old job.
Look at the available evidence. Marques finished his role in January to "pursue an international opportunity". We arent paying compensation for Hughes because he handed his notice in in November. So we either got really lucky in getting those 2 in or they knew something was happening months ago.
I am not saying that any of this drove Jurgen to leave, it could also be the case that he was tired and didnt fancy the new direction, but I find it difficult to believe that the club didnt decide on this plan months before it came out in public .
Great points about that last transfer window. I can't imagine FSG was happy at all knowing FSG. We for sure blew the szobo transfer lol and the caicedo thing was a mess. So you may very well be right for them to think “no way this won't ever happen again. Let's get Edwards back in here” solid solid points.
Interesting Theory enjoyed this video
Glad you enjoyed it!
I must repeat. That chap in Merseyside Monster really sums up my thoughts. I was shocked when Klopp said he would be leaving. Apart from an initial bounce it all then started to fall apart. Besides FSG and their American sports management philosophy I view Edwards as a villain. Xabi Alonso had already sussed out the situation and wanted no part of it. I wonder how many unknown to us, battles, Juergen has fought?
Probably more than we even think.
It could be good but it does remind me of having 2 much power kinda like jerry Jones or the patriots with bill sometimes you nail the signings or you just have a bunch of guys and don't win things often I do believe Edwards he has signed some amazing players that klopp wasn't looking at or flat out didn't want also I started writing this when you said we are the most successful club in history and I literally shouted out loud damn right we are 😊
Ahaha HELL YEAH! This one made me smile. Thanks Dan! And yes! That’s a spot on example of of how that model can fail. But you also can’t take away that the model created the most dominate American football organization probably in history as well. And I think FSG want to try to replicate it at LFC. There is a Joke in America that the patriots find guys off the street teach them football and then they go all pro and win a Super Bowl the next year. 😭 hopefully Edwards does the same with us.
Analytics only works when its surrounded by proper context.
True true!
I personally agreed ME players choices was better. VVD, Mane, Salah, Allison, Robbo. Look at the player came in after he left, Nunez and Sbozo is an example
I like szobo and I think Nunez may come good under a different coach. But no doubt ME signings are all time great level.
I tend to agree Michael Edwards always wanted to be in control and Klopp was in his way
Now he isn't there the path is cleared for complete control over football opps and a compliant manager.
it could also be read as klopp's decision to leave gave fsg the impetus to bring edwards back, if klopp hadn't decided to leave they would have persisted with the manager role until he did leave. i do feel too many, especially on social media look for the conspiracy theory too quick, it does generate clicks after all
That could also be a reason!
I look at theory’s is our thoughts and reasoning brought together. Less so trying to push a narrative that doesn’t exist.
I don't think Edwards is the reason for Alonso or Amorim backing out. Klopp did have some issue with him at certain stage though. That said, I doubt his return is what explains Klopps departure. It's simply the lack of backing he received since 2018. That was the last year, FSG really went out and splurged...that too only after Coutinho was sold and the obscene sum we got for him helped finance the deals that pretty much created the backbone of the success that followed. Following the league win in 2020, LFC could've attracted the best and brightest in football seeing how the title was won in such spectacular fashion and that Kopps stock as a maanger was at an all time high. Any player would've played for him. However, FSG chose austerities in light of Covid and continued to keep a tight purse till 2023 when it became obvious that their tight fisted policy with regards to transfers backfired as the club didn't qualify for the UCL.
Alonso backed out cos it was better for him to get the Real Madrid job first.
Getting sacked from Real Madrid wouldn't rule him out of the Liverpool job. Or the Bayern job. Real Madrid sack every manager, eventually.
Getting sacked from Liverpool would have ruled him out of the Madrid job...
That's how I see him working it.
Klopp needs to leave anyway, but we will miss him
Sad but true. One of the greats a true legend. But I think he is ready to go.
Agreed
Good video man. My 2 cents here. Rogers almost win the tittle with the squad Edwards was responsible, that season he did not complain. After Suarez sell and all the new signings came to Liverpool and the transition time came, Rogers start pointing on Transfer committee as a reason for poor results. Obv some transfers was bad, Klopp prove that after selling almost all of this players later on. When changing some much stuff at once it always a big % chance of trouble (look at Chelsea), even if the young players coming are good with great potential. I like the idea of decentralize power, no all of the power to coach, or the director. There is too much work to for one man only. I love Klopp and all we had with him, but as all great stories there is always a end. 10 yrs is a long time, the game is not like use to be, pressure is much more, we had the maximum we can ask from Klopp, I believe he is out of energy and this is clear on his face. He also need fresh start in his live. Legend forever and GL to Slot and Edwards on spoting on the best talents out there for us.
I like that!
Great analysis
Thank you! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Reminds me of the book "The Master and His Emissary".
I’ll have to look into that one. It sounds interesting just off the snippet I looked up! Thank you!
i think if these two gentlemen that is Klopp and Edwards should put aside their differences and work together they will become one hard rock to break but we all know how stubborn these two are. Edwards is very good with stats of players and always make the right call and Klopp is best with personal relations with players and grooming them so with with these two qualities of both great guys they can do so much together. oh and to let you know Edwards will be starting an underground scouting in Africa which he has done before for with some best talents from the continent. don't be surprised when you see some talented African plays in the MSL and some other league.
Wouldn’t they? Dude they’d be unstoppable! Like they were!
Dunk sent me here. You talk a lot of sense.
I try to! And shout out to our guy Dunk. He is a solid man.
Been thinking the same thing for months. I assume Jurgen can't speak out due to an NDA on his severance package, and he's got plenty of class about him.
Yeah I think it’s more he feels it’s a private matter than a public one for sure
@@UNCONFORMEDCF he knows the fans would riot if the truth came out. It would cause a lot of grief and upset and probably see FSG removed. Neither party can risk that from happening.
Where do all these stories come from?
I've followed Liverpool for years and now hear stories going a ways back that I never heard at the time. It's all intrigue. Not saying there's nothing to it but have no reason to think Jurgen isn't just exhausted.
Right? I have been learning so much in these comments about some of these riffs that have just gone un noticed. Klopp magic man. He knows how to numb you up!
I truly feel like Edwards took this job because he knew klopp would leave and that Edwards would have enough power to place Hughes and whoever the coach was going to be to fit into his ideal system.
Edwards doesn’t care what the fans want or sentiment about players. He will do and pick whoever he thinks he can place in his system and run towards his vision for the club.
Very true!!
I believe you are 100% correct and eventually fall apart
I hope it doesn’t!
Klopp and Edwards egos clashing behind the scenes is the only plausible reason for our season's collapse. Since announcement of Edwards' return, after Klopp's announcement, the team has been off the boil.
Could be!!
Having a coach who doesn't control the players coming in is like having a manger with no vision. I can't see it working not in football, maybe in baseball.
michael edwards was 100% responsible for most of liverpools best transfers. rodger’s didn’t want firmino, edwards was behind that. when rodger’s wanted lallana, edwards tried to convince him to get heung min son. When klopp wanted julian brandy, edwards convinced the board to instead get mo salah. i can assure you edwards may not be liked but he knows what he’s doing.
klopp also was 100% behind the nunez transfer, edwards wanted cristopher nkunku. the list goes on but edwards 9 times out of 10 is bang on.
I can see the argument for both for sure!!!
@@EthanClarke-fc5owhe targets alot of players with injury history whivh worries ,e alot. Ox,konate,jota, Thiago, nkunku wouldn't have played any games this seaso. Seems like a pretty significant blind spot
Klopp was leaving before he signed a 2yr extension for 15 mill a yr so it was already in his mind to leave also I'll never forget when Klopp said us fans are spoilt. Don't get me wrong Klopp has been great for Liverpool but it isn't because of Edwards he's leaving because as I've just said he already wanted to leave before Edwards name resurfaced. I can see where your coming from so I could be wrong mind you none of us will really know what happened but as fans we all speculate with different opinions. Just subbed Dunc of koptalk tv shouted you out .
Rightttt. I’m hopeful the doc gives us some clarity (I doubt it will knowing how secretive FSG is) and Dunk is the man! And appreciate the sub! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
So weird to see American commenting on British football
Ahaha right?
Whilst i agree with your points on certain aspects. I also look at it as Klopp is tired has been at the club for 9 years, sick of VAR and refereeing in the Prem, sick of big clubs like City etc with endless money pits buying and breaking rules. I think FSG have seen Klopp wanting to leave and go into retirement for a while and thinking they need someone they trust to steer Liverpool on post Klopp. And Edwards is that guy they trust.
Indeed. I trust Edwards to make the right choices. He is essentially the main man now that klopp is going.
I think your theory is very interesting. And feels like you might be right....
Thank you! We will see as the story continues to unfold this coming summer.
The mistake was the manager announcement he would be leaving at the end of the season, that hurt the team, he should wait.
It could have been!
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As a manager I'll be responsible for the coaching of the squad and be involved in the recruitment of players. As a manager, I can't take responsibility for any player that I did not get involved in his recruitment. And it's now coming to light, the reason why Amorim was not appointed. It will not end well with Arne slot accepting to be sidelined in the recruitment of players
It could get ugly. It could also be a revelation. We will see!
My thoughts exactly.
Now I know I ain't crazy. Kopp and Edwards had it over keeping Hendo, Milli, Fab and Thiago, so Edwards left. When Edwards was approached in 2023, it was reported that he was not interested in the job, he had is business to focus on. Was it not announced that he is taking the job after klopp said he was leaving or after he took the job klopp decided to leave ? Either way, it's one in the same.
You may be on to something here! 😂just using your eyes is all!
@@UNCONFORMEDCF another thing I noticed. Salah and Edwards are close, he signed Salah. Klopp and Edwards ain't good, now you see why Salah went at Klopp? I think that's ungrateful based on the scraps klopp won everything with.
I’ve been saying the same thing to my WhatsApp LFC group same thing Klopp would have lost control when Edward’s came and he Klopp can’t have that
I think it’s for sure part of it. And might be a big part of it. And of course combined with the tiredness etc.
I can buy the fact that the Edwards return is something that has been in the pipeline for months and is part of FSGs overall plan. But for sure I can see Klopp is fatigued for sure. But not sure if we can pin Klopp leaving wholly on Edwards’ return
For sure not in its entirety! Kloppo does indeed look tired, especially these recent weeks. but I personally believe it could've played a part amongst other things I don't think we may ever know.
Makes sense m8 real talk
We can speculate but hell maybe Klopp is sick as well
All we can do is speculate right? Maybe one day we will know everything. I respect Klopp for keeping it private though.
100% Agree with the Merseyside Monster video. My thoughts entirely. The truth is coming out in the wash.
I have no time at all for Edwards and his ilk.
I feel uneasy about the future.
I am sure that American chap is correct. He knows about US style sports management. I wish FSG would sell to some rich Arabs.
I am sure Klopp was pushed out.
Get lost FSG. It is not about money. It is about the spirit and soul of Liverpool football club.
With all that being said I do actually hope they get it right! Edwards has a great track record and I’m hoping he pulls it off with out Klopp to drive the team forwarf.
I have the very same feeling but when I said it in a chat I am part of everybody's head fell off they didn't like what I said i was out of order and wrong I still believe Edwards left because he felt Klopp was getting to much power and I believe FSG want that power back and are using Edwards who is loved by the fans as the tool to get it back off Klopp and let him walk away from the club
Oh yeah man! 100% There were even some comments here on this video that said I was out of order. But as supports we are entitled to our own opinions and thoughts and we don’t have to act like we have a perfect club. We can spot things and bring it up! There is for sure more than meets the eye!
Edwards’s didn’t reject Alonso
Alonso has agreed in principle but after talking to the club owner and ceo . Did a u turn and decided to stay for another season at least .. Alonso was edwards no 1 choice
He sure didn't. I think he may have turned Alonso off to the idea of taking over though given Alonso has a very distinct style of play that not every player can play in. So he'd need some sort of say in the transfers. I don't think Xabi was 100% against it. But I think it for sure played a factor into him staying longer amongst other things.
Klopp is the new Shankly Slot hopefully be the new Bob Paisley if you know your LFC history you will know Paisley was and is still The most Successful manger . Klopp like Shankly is a Spiritual leader both to club and City and That what people don’t get .
I hope that is the case! I love his style of play I just hope the occasion isn’t too big for him.
@@UNCONFORMEDCF forgot say I was sent here by Dunk from Koptalk TV . YNWA
@@f1b1777 big dawg Dunc!!! Yessir. I just found out about his channel and I’m hooked myself!
Following Edward's departure, the signings we've made haven't been particularly impressive. While they were decent, I don't consider Nunez & Gakpo to be on par with Michel Edward's signings. Since his departure, the quality of players brought in hasn't been as high. I admire Klopp and his team, but we need to have faith in Edwards, and any new manager should also trust him.
I will admit. The ME signings are legendary. Hopefully he brings that same level this time around too.
You may be right, time will tell.