Unmasking Persona's Greatest Musical Secret

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  • Опубликовано: 30 мар 2020
  • Persona 5 has a motif that echos through the entire Persona series, and today I'm going beneath the mask to see where it leads. It goes farther than Persona 5 by a long mile.
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  • @HidinginPublic
    @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +288

    Thanks for watching! I will try to respond to whatever comments I get as it remains attainable!
    PLEASE SHOW THIS TO OTHER PERSONA FANS. Shabu and I worked really hard on this video getting information for over a month and I really don't want to see this video flop.
    Persona has grown to mean a lot to me in the past year and I want to see more Persona content succeed.
    Check out Shabu's Channel as well! "Shabu, That Music Nerd"

    • @hotdogeater8647
      @hotdogeater8647 4 года назад +2

      Don’t worry it turned out to be a good vid

    • @Iojfbhsus
      @Iojfbhsus 4 года назад +1

      I really appreciate this video

    • @chironthecuddley6144
      @chironthecuddley6144 4 года назад +2

      It was great and the motif is in "Smile" of P4 around 16 seconds in and it's also in "Heaven" at around 40 seconds. I wonder if there is a song in P3 with the motif as well. If there is that is some crazy dedication to a motif.

    • @arkaene
      @arkaene 4 года назад +2

      ChironTheCuddley I haven’t found the motif in P3’s game OST yet, but in the P3 Movie, there’s “Pure One Heart” where the motif shows up around 16 seconds in, and also a little bit at the beginning of “More Than One Heart.”

    • @chironthecuddley6144
      @chironthecuddley6144 4 года назад +1

      @@arkaene At least it showed up in the movie's soundtrack.

  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher 4 года назад +1114

    It’s probably the Japanese ladies singing broken English that gives it the charm

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +194

      It's good stuff

    • @BasedChad
      @BasedChad 4 года назад +34

      @@HidinginPublic its amazing stuff

    • @COZYTW
      @COZYTW 4 года назад +60

      INaizumi Lyn's Engrish is actually kind of sweet, actually.
      Although, yeah, the previous broken English was a nice charm of the Persona series up till Lyn stole the show with her snazzy jazzy voice.

    • @natekyngcole
      @natekyngcole 3 года назад +7

      it's that GOODSHIT

    • @luckymankwok
      @luckymankwok 3 года назад +8

      Japlish music is the best

  • @SugarRatio
    @SugarRatio 5 месяцев назад +77

    in the 3:20 mark of the full moon full life in persona 3 reload, this motif appears, i think this will forever be an important motif throughout persona

    • @marcostimm2491
      @marcostimm2491 Месяц назад +1

      also used in kimi no kioku/memories of you - a lot

  • @justanotherguywithamoustac8893
    @justanotherguywithamoustac8893 4 года назад +817

    Persona and SMT made me realize just how important music is

    • @dinkcrab2427
      @dinkcrab2427 4 года назад +32

      Oh yeah music really big part of those games

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +79

      It's amazing how well of a job they have done and continue to do.

    • @dinkcrab2427
      @dinkcrab2427 4 года назад +13

      @@HidinginPublic hell yeah the mood throughout the match well with scenes

    • @tonnmiister
      @tonnmiister 4 года назад +2

      Any SMT games that have strong musical motifs that you would recommend? There are so many SMT games!

    • @androukos6441
      @androukos6441 4 года назад +8

      @@tonnmiister As long as there's Shoji Meguro all of them are masterpieces

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 года назад +457

    Music is one of the most fundamental aspects in creating the proper mood and tone for shows, video games, movies, etc. The proper utilization of soundtracks for games can transform a simple game into a work of art. Music is a powerful tool.

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +39

      The Work Shoji Meguro and Kenichi Tsuchiya did here can't be overstated

    • @justgrey3114
      @justgrey3114 4 года назад +4

      snaaaaake eaaaaterrrr

    • @susanoo6212
      @susanoo6212 4 года назад +12

      why are you in every comment section ever?

    • @ghostofachance8727
      @ghostofachance8727 4 года назад +2

      9th count of seeing you on Random RUclips Videos.

    • @KraNisOG
      @KraNisOG 4 года назад +2

      @@junghyukQZH I have a feeling this account is just several people watching as many videos as they can.

  • @Tippity
    @Tippity 4 года назад +371

    id normally wouldnt be interested in such a deep dive into music composition but this video was awesome! very concise and easy to follow along. HIDING KUN DOESNT MISSSSSSSS

    • @willpoweramv
      @willpoweramv 4 года назад +17

      "Do anyone want me?"

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +9

      Thank you Tippity! I'm glad you see things that way--

    • @alicemarga6723
      @alicemarga6723 4 года назад +7

      YOOOOOOOOO BRO TIPPITY IS A HIDING FAN LETS GOOOO

    • @LightslashGamingRocks
      @LightslashGamingRocks 4 года назад +1

      Fancy seeing you here Anthony

    • @Red9419
      @Red9419 4 года назад +1

      YO WHATS GOOD TIPPITY

  • @trickortriq
    @trickortriq 4 года назад +244

    I see Maya on the thumbnail , I click

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +37

      She's very integral you will see

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 4 года назад +18

      WHOOPASS TIME!

    • @Anna_Leviant
      @Anna_Leviant 4 года назад +14

      God, Maya is such an underrated character. P2 as a whole needs more respect.

    • @burnt_ramen9757
      @burnt_ramen9757 4 года назад +1

      @@Anna_Leviant facts

    • @ligma5763
      @ligma5763 4 года назад +1

      Best girl Maya

  • @Entropic_Alloy
    @Entropic_Alloy 4 года назад +108

    Persona 5 is full of call backs to P2 in terms of characters and certain character dynamics, so I'm not surprised this motif is also taken from it as well.

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +12

      I mean it makes sense, but I was super surprised.

    • @TheSbugZone
      @TheSbugZone 4 года назад +17

      @@HidinginPublic I'm a huge p2 fan and honestly, I noticed "hey Dance of Death" sounds similar to the P5 motif, but I never put it all together until now. And I'm really into music composition so I'm impressed.

    • @ulty1472
      @ulty1472 3 года назад +9

      They also use the same color: red

    • @makahadomax4524
      @makahadomax4524 3 года назад +2

      I thought it was callbacked more to Persona 1 than any other Persona game really

    • @manuelmateo3392
      @manuelmateo3392 2 года назад +2

      @@ulty1472 Albeit not originally.

  • @Crazygamingguy
    @Crazygamingguy 4 года назад +57

    I've been very aware of these coincidences ever since P5 came into existence but it comes from a much deeper level. Just like the mainline Shin Megami Tensei games atlus has been reusing and remixing a lot of their music from the first game to represent a sort of ongoing cohesion between the franchise. And the exact same goes for Persona on which Meguro also was a part of even though he wasnt a major part(we owe him the velvet room theme though). A lot of Persona 1's songs have survived and evolved in one way or another as well as the main theme of the franchise which starts with the 4 iconic notes. Mayas theme has shown up time and time again across all 3 of the newest games in the form of living with determination and I'll face myself. They are both meant to evoke the same feeling of Maya's death and the struggle to live on.
    And I just wanted to mention, Persona 5's credit theme The Stars And Us is also a remix of the Shin Megami Tensei 1 credits sequence, in fact. All of the persona credit themes are.
    Atlus has been remixing them for over a decade now and you reallly wont notice this stuff unless you're super into their music. I think its wonderful how they've managed to recontextualize everything. Hell even Last Surprise feels like an inverted Persona 2 battle theme. Take Over has that exact same toning as the P2 Battle theme.
    Meguro knows what hes doing.

  • @thepillowhead2453
    @thepillowhead2453 3 года назад +55

    This song is actually also in Persona 3 Spring of Birth with More than One Heart. It’s also in Heaven from Persona 4.

    • @lulu_9000
      @lulu_9000 6 месяцев назад +5

      Right! The part "doubts from my mind" is this piece in Heaven! I was playing P4 and P5 in tandem last year and it stuck out like a sore thumb. I was shocked I couldn't find anyone else talking about it.

    • @ApexGale
      @ApexGale 4 месяца назад +3

      it is in FES as well, in The Answer

    • @LightRollEnjoyer
      @LightRollEnjoyer 4 месяца назад +1

      It's very cool they are also used as a transitional motif

    • @AmeliaReinhartAmamiya
      @AmeliaReinhartAmamiya 3 дня назад

      It’s also in Persona 3 Reload’s intro, Full Moon Full Life! (and in Persona 4’s Smile)

  • @uchuukaitou934
    @uchuukaitou934 4 года назад +252

    As a massive fan of the persona series and its music, especially of Innocent Sin's, this brought a huge smile to my face. I always felt that the Persona 2 duology is severely underrated considering most of the modern trilogy archetypes and mechanics seems to be somewhat inspired by what those games did. Glad to see you're bridging the persona community by doing videos like these, Hiding. Was your outro song building up to this video all along?

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +29

      Thankyou, I'm glad you feel that way. I can't say it was initially. I always felt a particular emotional connection to Maya's theme after first hearing it in FES a few months ago, and the Atsushi Kittajoh rearranged version felt to me exactly what Tsuchiya says in the interview. Like it was representative of me, kind of pushing back against whatever limitations the world had for me, and staying determined that I could eventually succeed with a creative career. I'm a huge junky for persona music so I found the motif, went to shabu and started digging. For about a month and a half or more, when I edit in my outro, yeah, that's definitely what it signifies.

    • @manuelmateo3392
      @manuelmateo3392 2 года назад +1

      P2 itself cribs much from P1, but otherwise, I see it too.

    • @hello-gx6oi
      @hello-gx6oi Год назад

      Yes when i played eternal punishment (thanks to the game being much more difficult than IS Wich means I have to pay attention to the mechanics of the game) i noticed a lot of game designs that makes me feel like it would be the seeds that will be laid down for persona 3

  • @FreezeMango-BlazeLychee
    @FreezeMango-BlazeLychee 4 года назад +105

    and everyone says that Atlus forgot the Persona 2

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +42

      When It was right under their nose all along

    • @gywghhb
      @gywghhb 4 года назад +8

      There are some Easter eggs of persona 2 characters as well

    • @snakeslife-uroborodjinn790
      @snakeslife-uroborodjinn790 3 года назад +5

      Persona 2 Innocent Sin is still the best written game in the series with the best cast.
      I love every game, even the spinoffs, but thats just the gold standard.

    • @FreezeMango-BlazeLychee
      @FreezeMango-BlazeLychee 3 года назад

      @@snakeslife-uroborodjinn790 yeah

  • @fubadas
    @fubadas 4 года назад +37

    There's one more thing that links persona 2 to persona 5 and that is the use of red as it principal color
    This video is amazing, really easy to follow and left me wanting more XD excellent job dude !

    • @lob674
      @lob674 3 года назад +4

      I've noticed that p5 has quite a few callbacks/similarities with p2, especially in royal.

    • @johnbuscher
      @johnbuscher 3 года назад +3

      @@lob674 Especially in character designs.

  • @oxymoron5651
    @oxymoron5651 4 года назад +48

    Putting this here for those who don’t know, but in Beneath the Mask, the “masquerade” being referred to from the story of Red Death by Edgar Allen Poe (hence “Poe’s masquerade”). While I’m not sure how this ties in with P2, I think Arsene fits the description pretty well by design

    • @lazygambit5092
      @lazygambit5092 4 года назад +5

      OxyMoron Arsen is also based of a book. The characters name in the book is Arsen Lupin, he is from book about a thief who steals for sport. The book is called Arsen Lupin: Gentlemen Thief

    • @oxymoron5651
      @oxymoron5651 4 года назад +5

      Lazy Gambit yeah, so I heard. I was referring to how he looks, though; even though it’s (rather obviously) Arsene, he also looks like he could represent Red Death as well

    • @velvetphi
      @velvetphi 4 года назад +1

      The story of Red Death is actually the basis for the Velvet Room itself; it's the room before the final room in the story.

    • @oxymoron5651
      @oxymoron5651 4 года назад

      ßãgl maybe, but we don’t have the madlad Red Death himself yet

    • @Evilriku13
      @Evilriku13 4 года назад +2

      p2 Innocent Sin had a famous poem too, included with a classic oldass german song, “der doppelgaenger“, reflecting and forshadowing the theme and ending to P2 IS. Its also present in the opening of the way more atmospheric persona 2 innocent sin ps1 version. And it comes full circle with the dance of death/maya dies theme, which is her sad theme, not the one u hear in the “hero theme“ nor her regular theme. Also Persona had another motif, a leitmotif within the first 3 games (before Shoji Meguro took over aka Persona 3) that is an piano segment u can cleaely hear in the opening of the persona 1/revelation(s) ps1 version.

  • @duchi882
    @duchi882 4 года назад +315

    The thing I like about Persona's Music
    is that you'll never see it coming

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +23

      Discoveries around every corner

    • @Mr.OwO2873
      @Mr.OwO2873 4 года назад

      @@alex-sh5ed im just gonna call you a baby baby baby baby baby
      YEAAAAAHHHHH
      for not getting a joke

    • @ABlueOrb
      @ABlueOrb 4 года назад

      Boo

    • @agneskennicott7851
      @agneskennicott7851 4 года назад +5

      Wanna know how I know you've never touched a Persona game? You still make this overused 'joke' you found on the internet unironically.

    • @FF-tp7qs
      @FF-tp7qs 4 года назад +1

      @@alex-sh5ed you can see music if you have synaesthesia

  • @radamantoor6073
    @radamantoor6073 4 года назад +104

    How can the Persona 5 soundtrack exclusively get better the more you listen to it and learn about it? My god what a masterpiece of an OST

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +10

      They did a great job

    • @BigBoris
      @BigBoris 5 месяцев назад

      Masterpiece is an understatement, it’s heavenly

  • @ThatMusicNerdShabu
    @ThatMusicNerdShabu 4 года назад +45

    Yoooo this turned out great! The editing is super dope. Thanks so much for having me on man it was a lot of fun to research :] It was really interesting doing a deeper dive into a lot of tracks from all over the persona series.
    If anyone has any specific or general questions hit me up :] We kept things pretty concise here and I'd love to talk about some of the musical ideas more in-depth for people that want to hear about them

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +6

      Thanks for working with me again man. You're a great friend.

  • @jonathantonner4263
    @jonathantonner4263 4 года назад +39

    Was listening to the soundtrack, and found out that this motif also plays during blooming villain, its near the end of the loop!

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +6

      There are a lot of other places it plays in part or in whoke in p5 but we were trying to be as consise as we could. It will definitely be fun to go through and see where else you can hear it!

    • @jakimoretti7771
      @jakimoretti7771 4 года назад +6

      which is also why "Regret" contains it, since it's just a "sad" version of "Blooming Villain"

    • @lateralshiftmusic
      @lateralshiftmusic 4 года назад +5

      Also kinda in whims of fate! “so we roll the dice”

  • @JGar453
    @JGar453 4 года назад +14

    Great video, I knew Maya's Theme was a legendary track but I never realized how important the track was to the series as a whole

  • @jessicaswann4956
    @jessicaswann4956 4 года назад +21

    Maya’s theme is by far my favourite track in the franchise and I love all the different arrangements of it to fit the different moods throughout the game. When listening to Maya’s death I knew there was something familiar about it but had no idea why. Now I know thanks to this video 😂 It was very informative and I appreciate the easy explanations as someone with very little knowledge on music lmao 👌👌

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +3

      It's my favorite too. Specifically the Atsushi Kitajoh rearranged version connects with me in a way few other songs have been able to. I'm happy it was informative and easy to understand! I want as many people to see this as possible so I would appreciate if you helped me share it if possible. Thanks for taking the time to watch!

    • @Gio-kg4gb
      @Gio-kg4gb 4 года назад +1

      I need your profile picture

  • @jacquespaught
    @jacquespaught 4 года назад +18

    And then Royal doubled down on the P1/P2 references with the new story arc.

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад

      Can't wait to see! I'm playing it on stream now!

  • @xrosader908
    @xrosader908 4 года назад +9

    Holy smokes, I was listening to a Persona mix, and realised that Smile from Persona 4 also has this motiff! That's nuts. And I guess Whims of Fate does too, when it says "So we roll the dice", or at least I hear the semblance XD
    Now I can't unhear this, fuck

    • @Nosfera22
      @Nosfera22 Год назад

      Yup, in Smile its at right about 0:15 if I'm hearing it right.

  • @oxymoron5651
    @oxymoron5651 4 года назад +71

    Okay so hear me out
    P5 arena where the phantom thieves fight P2 Joker’s masquerade

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +18

      I hear you

    • @IZINA1997
      @IZINA1997 4 года назад +5

      I want that...

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 4 года назад +8

      Damnit with your promising rumour!

    • @oxymoron5651
      @oxymoron5651 4 года назад +7

      SHAWKLAN 27 I wish it was even a rumor to begin with lol

    • @derekmartin5340
      @derekmartin5340 3 года назад +2

      Imagine we finally get to learn who Junko's persona was

  • @KorewaEden
    @KorewaEden 4 года назад +12

    I've been waiting for this!

  • @PrawzCD
    @PrawzCD 4 года назад +17

    Amazing video, it's mind blowing to me how much thought can go into a game's soundtrack. I really think it shows just how passionate some people in the industry are towards what they do. Even after 2 decades of working on the same series, Meguro & Tsuchiya still cared enough to reflect on past compositions like that. Again, great video Hiding.

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +4

      It really is mindblowing, I'm glad you agree and see my point. I appreciate it a lot. They did amazing work here

  • @ArleThePoss
    @ArleThePoss 4 года назад +6

    I can't believe I am dead and became part of the Persona soundtrack.

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +8

      Surprises around every corner. Your theme bops btw, hope it's ok if I continue using it as my outro

  • @thebucketgod9177
    @thebucketgod9177 4 года назад +14

    I know almost nothing about Persona 5, but this was still a very interesting video and I'm glad you look positively on it. Due to quarantine, I don't have much friends to contact to tell them to watch this, but I'll try my best to tell people about this video that clearly deserves attention due to the amount of time and effort put into it.

  • @aurumarma5711
    @aurumarma5711 4 года назад +29

    Isn't that the plot of Persona at its most basic?
    People standing up to oblivion.

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +18

      Yeah, and to Tsuchiya the song that has always represented that is Maya's theme

    • @cedarsapling18
      @cedarsapling18 5 месяцев назад +1

      That’s essentially the theme of MOST Shin Megami Tensei games!

  • @DetergentStall
    @DetergentStall 4 года назад +2

    Great vid, and amazing editing with this new video. The music in the Persona series are always amazing. Persona 3's OST is my personal favorite from the games.

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      Thank you Reiza! I know you're a pretty big persona fan so I really hope this connected with you!

  • @juliantapia1407
    @juliantapia1407 4 года назад +4

    This means a lot to me as a persona fan, too.
    Persona 2 means the world to me, and I've enjoyed every game in the series.
    Thank you for sharing all of this work.

  • @danielcubillos181
    @danielcubillos181 4 года назад +1

    A huge thank you to both Hiding and Shabu. This was an amazing video and I look forward to what you both will do. Thank you.

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      Thank you! I'm glad you took the time to watch it, and that you enjoyed as much as you did

  • @FLAMEKING2341
    @FLAMEKING2341 4 года назад

    This was such a very in depth analysis of the music in persona. I feel the motifs in these games make me feel things. Thank you for such a great video. As always always great to see your stuff you def one of the best

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад

      Thank you for coming by and leaving the nice comment! I try my best!

  • @MegaRealZex
    @MegaRealZex 4 года назад +1

    This is one of the best videos I have watched recently, thank you. This revelation is amazing

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      Thqnk you! The kind words are very appreciated

  • @BearsDenGaming
    @BearsDenGaming 5 месяцев назад +2

    This is a bit old now and some people have pointed out that this motif is also in P3/ FES and P4 as well, But now it's ALSO in P3 Reload in Full Moon Full Life's full version as well apparently

  • @renamamiya5115
    @renamamiya5115 4 года назад +3

    holy shit its scary how somewhat my thoughts aligned to "Persona 1 and 2" was never forgotten but its been there all along without majority of the people knowing. I didn't know Persona 5 would be somehow connected and I would find out bout one of my fave songs (M. Dies) was there as base.
    I love all of Persona's songs from 1-5 (including spin-offs) I'm glad every Persona game that came after the other had a good reference of the past persona games.

  • @-king-1230
    @-king-1230 4 года назад +85

    *burn my dread intensifies*

  • @keida7425
    @keida7425 4 года назад +1

    Dude this video shows the effort that both of you and Shabu put into this video which makes this video AMAZING!. I'll make sure to come by the stream and share the video, Have a amazing day and continue making great videos in your own way.

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      Thank you! I'll try to do the best I can! Thanks for always stopping by and supporting me

  • @zaregoto6022
    @zaregoto6022 4 года назад +70

    Meanwhile SMT 3 Nocturne's OST: ONE MORE GOD REJECTED!!!! I AM THE WORM INSIDE YOU!!!!!

  • @JoeyKastelic777
    @JoeyKastelic777 4 года назад +1

    Wow this is a great analysis! I've been playing Persona 4 lately and it's quickly becoming one of my favorite games/series

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад

      Thank you! The persona series have quickly become my favorites as well

  • @Dominik-K
    @Dominik-K 3 года назад

    Thanks for making this video. I can't remember if I commented before, but here are my thoughts: It's a great analysis and I have to say I'm amazed as a Persona fan myself and I really am amazed by the music analysis too

  • @fylzzz9990
    @fylzzz9990 5 месяцев назад +3

    The motif is also now in the new P3 remake, in the bridge section of Full Moon Full Life (the extended version) you can hear it in the vocals like twice

  • @ultimateshadeofwar
    @ultimateshadeofwar 4 года назад +3

    I had notice small references between from Persona 2 and Persona 5, but i through it was just myself. This wow, it puts another perspective into this connection i notice

  • @alexzero2629
    @alexzero2629 4 года назад

    Thank you for making this video hidey. I loved it.

  • @theflyingmoo
    @theflyingmoo 4 года назад

    Thanks for the video! Hoshi to Bokura to and Swear to My Bones are my two favorite persona songs, and it's really neat to learn how just four simple notes from P2 have had such an impact.

  • @nicklovejoy2876
    @nicklovejoy2876 4 года назад +9

    there is another persona 2 fan
    i thought they were just a legend..

  • @Snapslol
    @Snapslol 4 года назад +1

    This video was amazing holy shit, nice job Hiding.

  • @artikfoxa7565
    @artikfoxa7565 4 года назад +4

    I am musically pretty much illiterate so seeing how the theme connects to the franchise was really nice!, The editing was top too, keep it up Hiding :)

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад

      Thank you so much! I'm glad it was interesting!

  • @aneonfoxtribute
    @aneonfoxtribute 4 года назад +9

    I noticed a few years ago that Life Will Change and Wake Up Get Up Get Out There are, like, almost exactly the same song just with different lyrics and I love that

  • @healthcaredotgov3097
    @healthcaredotgov3097 4 года назад

    As a guy who loves both Persona as a game and as a musical project, I have to say that this video blew me away. Both you and Shabu gave me so much more to chew on concerning this game and made me love the music even more. As a musician seeking to expand my musical knowledge, this has been great and having it concern one of my favourite things helps a lot as well. Listening back on the OST, I can hear a lot of variations of the fabled "motif" now. Thanks, guys, great vid! I love the content!

  • @ianscholes3223
    @ianscholes3223 4 года назад

    This was fantastically put, I noticed the motif in the separate p5 tracks too, but I never thought of Maya's theme. Great video!

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад

      Thanks! Glad it presented something new!

  • @flutosan7764
    @flutosan7764 4 года назад

    Thank you for all your hard work 💮 really appreciate all your videos

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад

      Thank you for continuing to comment! I try my best

  • @grilledcheezvirtualoniisan8670
    @grilledcheezvirtualoniisan8670 4 года назад +1

    Wow! This is such a good analysis, even for a person like me, who has next to no knowledge about musical composition, it was able to make me understand and learn something new! Great job!

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад

      I'm glad! I'm also only a beginner when it comes to basic music theory knowledge but Shabu really helped me out

  • @redditsbestclips4728
    @redditsbestclips4728 Год назад +1

    I didn’t know you had another channel. I thought hiding in private was your only content. Good stuff

  • @Joel-bf1lf
    @Joel-bf1lf 4 года назад

    First video I cried at, good job man!

  • @johnbuscher
    @johnbuscher 3 года назад +3

    Also interesting that you can find those similarities between P2 and P5 as the butterfly also gets a little closer to Joker vs how it's just a background item in Persona 3 and 4.

  • @maskedcircle
    @maskedcircle 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for making this video. I'm just baffled to know about the relations and if it weren't for you I couldn't have pointed this out.
    Persona 2 is very very close to my heart, especially the ost and maya as a character. Might sound childish but it's one game which really helped me in what means to "change your way" during my depression phase. And that's why both Maya and her theme is very close to my heart, I always perceived her theme exactly how you describe it and that's why it's a very important to me.
    thanks for making this video.

  • @skullks
    @skullks 4 года назад

    So this is why I felt like there was a connection between Regret (one of my favourite tracks) and Swear To My Bones. I disregarded it as a mere coincidence until watching this video. It's amazing and I can't even begin to imagine the work that was put into making this. Persona 5 (and Royal even more so) is a game I thoroughly enjoyed experiencing, so I love to always learn more about it. Atlus made a fantastic piece of art and this video is a great help to understand it all better. So thank you for producing it!

  • @senh4944
    @senh4944 4 года назад

    oh gosh I'm getting emotional all over again just listening to a few seconds of P5 soundtrack! Thank you and Shabu for putting so much work in the video, it really shows :')

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      I'm glad it can come through. I am really proud of how it turned out.

  • @LinhNguyen-oc4sm
    @LinhNguyen-oc4sm 4 года назад

    The effort you put into your videos do not go unnoticed, keep it up dude

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад

      The video is currently flopping but hopefully youtube will pick it up!

  • @muse5254
    @muse5254 3 года назад

    such an incredible video… really wish you could dig into the additional Persona 5 Royal tracks. I definitely think the notif is a lot more obvious but it hits so hard

  • @Slewedleo
    @Slewedleo 3 года назад

    Superb video! It made me tear up! God I love Persona

  • @midflight_art
    @midflight_art 4 года назад +39

    so basically: play Persona 2
    ...got it!

  • @katherinestacey3421
    @katherinestacey3421 4 года назад +4

    Great video! I'm so glad more people remember P2 (and it's amazing music!!). Just a quick note, however, at 12:08 , you called the group the 'Masquerade', when it should've been the 'Masked Circle'. Maybe it was called that in the original fan translation (if it was, I wouldn't know)? Otherwise, an amazing analysis!!!!

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +3

      It's referred to as both, I think the ps1 and psp versions have slightly different english translations. But yeah that waa more of a throwaway near the end, Thank you! I'm glad you took the time to watch it

  • @yoshiwaraz
    @yoshiwaraz 4 года назад

    I watched your Punpun analysis last year and I really enjoyed it. I didn't subscribe so I lose the sight of you. I find you (again) with that video and its really amazing ! This time I definitely subscribe and watch all the videos I missed.
    Keep up the good work, it's great, and watch Gintama (I want to hear you analyzing it)

  • @DKzCoolD2
    @DKzCoolD2 4 года назад

    Great video hiding. Good job.

  • @FlynnTheRedhead
    @FlynnTheRedhead 4 года назад

    I’ve been wanting a video disecting Persona’s music for YEARS. Thank you!

  • @panfilolivia
    @panfilolivia 4 года назад

    Great video as always, dude!

  • @rattleboons
    @rattleboons 3 года назад

    I remember hearing this leitmotif in a couple P5 songs, but I had no idea it connected to a previous game, especially all the way back to 2. Super cool video dude.

  • @gerardocordoba3739
    @gerardocordoba3739 5 месяцев назад +1

    I've been playing the p3 remake recently and i was curious because a song kept hearing familiar and i didn't know from where, then i discover this videos, tysm

  • @jakepearce7776
    @jakepearce7776 Год назад +3

    As someone who hyperfixates on the P2 duology on the daily... this actually blew my mind and it's so obvious now that I know what to look for. ...Or is that "hear for"? I would not be surprised if this was intentional given how P5 revived a lot of classic stuff anyway (certain character dynamics, an endgame villain for P5 Vanilla that might as well be Nyarly, the return of old mechanics like Negotiation and the Nuclear element being it's own thing AND seperate from Almighty/Megido - EDIT: Also as someone else mentioned, Royal took the classic references and ran with it like with Biyarky/Byakhee appearing in that Palace in the trailer making me think NYARLY WAS ACTUALLY COMING BACK!!!!).
    And even if it wasn't an intentional callback, it's still dope as fuck since it turns an originally morbid and sad motif into a really, REALLY hopeful one. LIke full-on unadulterated "THE POWER OF ANIME AND FRIENDSHIP ARE ON MY SIDE TO SMITE YABBA-DABBA-DOO"-level of hopeful. It also kinda gives me similar vibes to how Ideal and the Real (mostly the End Version) has snippets of Memories of You for some reason.
    Regardless, this video has given me an excuse to once again replay the original trilogy. Haven't actually given EP PSP a go before but the English translation is done so might as well. (now, enough rambling out of me lmao)

  • @HollowG8
    @HollowG8 4 года назад +39

    Hey, I found a correlation!
    The music's REALLY good in all the games! That has to be thread right!?

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +14

      Fantastic why hadn't this occured to me. You're right.

    • @HollowG8
      @HollowG8 4 года назад +5

      @@HidinginPublic See! I'm a genius!

  • @cl0k3
    @cl0k3 4 года назад +4

    Another good use of motifs is how tokyo daylight and shido's palace themes are similar, driving the point that Shido's Palace is his vision of Tokyo

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад

      That is a good connection. Persona 5s ost has a ton of cool motifs, meguro does a great job

    • @Ssure2
      @Ssure2 3 года назад

      And to add to this:
      Freedom and Security is also connected to Tokyo Daylight. The melody is very similar to the vocals of Tokyo Daylight, especially near the beginning of the loop.
      Considering when Freedom and Security plays, and what that part of the game stands for, it's not a surprise at all.

  • @shablam49
    @shablam49 4 года назад

    I literally just beat the game, was crying for a sec. Loved the video, and loved to analysis of such an esteemed soundtrack.

  • @brittonsings3243
    @brittonsings3243 4 года назад

    That little motif always stuck out to me, but I never thought it would get THAT deep. Great video and great work! I thoroughly enjoyed that

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      Thank you, i'm glad! Haopy you watched and maybe found it as interedting as I did/do

    • @brittonsings3243
      @brittonsings3243 4 года назад

      Hiding in Public of course, not a problem! I actually have a question about the motif in one of the other songs you mentioned, Butterfly Kiss. I was wondering how the theme of the motif correlated with Tae?

  • @TheSbugZone
    @TheSbugZone 4 года назад +2

    let's not forget that the same jingle is used in both "smile" and "heaven" from Persona 4. Both songs play in emotional moments of the game where characters are pushing through tough situations so it checks out.
    As well as the main boss theme in p5 AND the "days of sisters"

  • @harmonys965
    @harmonys965 Год назад +1

    This video lodged itself into my psyche so deep that nearly 3 years later I still sought it out to share with people

  • @harmonygaleria6311
    @harmonygaleria6311 4 года назад

    This is genius!! Holy cow! Awesome man!

  • @stephenbarker6996
    @stephenbarker6996 4 года назад

    I don't really know anything about Persona, but this video seems solid from someone on the outside of the series. I can see the effort and I am impressed as always! Great video Hiding

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      Thanks stephen for all your support, on streams and in the comments. Thanks for watching even with not much knowledge of persona. It helps a ton.

  • @P0xal
    @P0xal 4 года назад

    I've never played persona but I really enjoyed this video! Keep up the good work! It's definitely feels different than some of your other videos like you had even more passion Making it! I love music so much!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I'll share this with all my friends

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching and supporting anyways Poxal! It's hugely appreciated

    • @P0xal
      @P0xal 4 года назад

      @@HidinginPublic Thanks for being so kind! You honestly deserve all my compliments! I love your content and honestly your are one of my inspirations for making anime content! I hope this video blows up! Thank you for making video :)

  • @Lingatsu
    @Lingatsu 3 года назад

    Really interesting !! It make me discover melodic contour. This make me think about meta in video game. really deep. the last part when you talk about the essence of persona gave me shiver.

  • @mahchoo
    @mahchoo 4 года назад +1

    Hey bro! Just wanted to say I've been following you since your Sangatsu videos, I dig the way that you see the world, it's very real and relatable. For some reason I've been binging your rom-com related videos, might be because of quarantine lol but nevertheless, just want to say thank you for those videos. Currently listening to your "snarky" romance video, and you've got fair points all around about how you've found your "type" of rom-com anime. I'm still subconsciously finding my favorite kind, and right now my favorite is the anime/manga Wotakoi. Something other than highschool/college is a nice twist for me haha
    p.s. Maybe you still feel the same way about the last 4 minutes of that snarky romance video or maybe you don't, but to me at least your words hit the strike zone fairly well.
    tl:dr: you're cool my guy, I wish you had more subs

  • @yaboiskinnymannn7861
    @yaboiskinnymannn7861 4 года назад +5

    Unmasked in public steam when?lmao Na seriously tho I’m so happy your covering this can’t wait to see the stream

  • @TheKewlPerson
    @TheKewlPerson 4 года назад +3

    Persona 2 is my second favorite persona game and favorite story and characters in any video game. I can't believe I never noticed this video was amazing and shows yet again how important music is to Persona.

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      Thank you, i'm glad you enjoyed the connections here

  • @Xavster
    @Xavster 4 года назад +2

    The -another version- of Futaba's palace theme also contains the first notes of Swear to my Bones. It's great how everything comes back in Shoji Meguro's work. Persona 3's Memories of You is also scathered all over its OST.

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      A lot of bits and pieces vet used throughout the soindtracks and it's always cool to see which songs share and where they come from, the one in the video was even crazier than I would have thought though. Meguro does a great job, and yeah memories of you has fingerprints all over p3

  • @T3RR0R_Bunny
    @T3RR0R_Bunny 4 года назад

    Love this brilliant work

  • @doobashmurp
    @doobashmurp 4 года назад

    i did not know a SINGLE thing about persona to this day but consider me fully invested now what the hell
    fuckin love musical connections like this and my mind is blown have a Good Day Sir

  • @bentjr8224
    @bentjr8224 4 года назад

    Goosebumps throughout this video. Thank you for making this

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      I'm happy it resonated with you. It meant a lot to me

    • @bentjr8224
      @bentjr8224 4 года назад +1

      @@HidinginPublic I found your channel after I finished flcl with confusion. Both with regards to the plot and why I feel like I enjoyed it so much despite not really knowing what's going on. Your vids helped me understand why. I subbed to your channel afterwards and I've been hooked to your videos. Great anime have some sort of compelling charm about it that sometimes is hard to put a finger on but you do it so well. Your vids make me appreciate anime so much more. Much love from Singapore.

  • @nepkin2080
    @nepkin2080 4 года назад

    awesome video man

  • @tundrabeech9793
    @tundrabeech9793 4 года назад

    Great video! I'll make sure to show this to my persona friends who are studying music. I'm not studying music but I still really liked the video!

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      Thank you so much! Please do! I hope they find it as interesting as I do/did!

  • @harmonys965
    @harmonys965 4 года назад

    Very well done video!

  • @HANIMEME
    @HANIMEME 4 года назад +4

    so basically alpharad's outro is the motif for persona, his favorite JRPG? neato

  • @matt4193
    @matt4193 4 года назад

    Outstanding work. Will check out the first Persona games thoroughly.

  • @senorsoloq
    @senorsoloq 4 года назад +1

    Would have never made this connections. Great video Hiding!

  • @aidanbell6038
    @aidanbell6038 4 года назад

    Not even a persona fan and watched this the whole way through (though I am a music nerd). Super different for your channel but still brilliant! Keep expanding your horizons .

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      Thank you! glad you were able to enjoy anyways. I'm happy you appreciated our work

  • @jackson-md2gh
    @jackson-md2gh 4 года назад +1

    So, I was waiting for your next video to say this (not on topic at all)
    Thanks for introducing me to Evangelion (favorite anime), and Car Seat Headrest (favorite band)

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад

      Sure thing, you should play Persona 5

    • @jackson-md2gh
      @jackson-md2gh 4 года назад

      I’ve played it, unfortunately I’m not gonna get to play Persona 5 Royal :(
      And also, I’m not sure if I’ve gotten the point across. I meant to say something along the lines of, I can relate a lot to some of your videos, and they provoke strong emotion in me. It’s weird because I’ve never met you, but I share a connection with you that is completely not mutual. You’re content has made me cry before, and I thank you for letting me feel.

  • @FlareBurst1
    @FlareBurst1 4 года назад +2

    Loving the persona content

  • @komos3719
    @komos3719 4 года назад

    Music analysis in Persona is always delightful as many of the tracks are fairly dense. And I think it's really interesting that Persona 5 borrows from 2 so much because it was honestly part of what made me so excited for 5 (seeing shadow negotiation in the trailers hyped me more than it should've lol.) Innocent Sin really hit hard and I love that it did the same for Shoji Meguro. Thanks for this!

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching it! There were so many othee small connections and alterations on the motif but we felt this was the most consise and bulletproof case we could make for it. Maya's theme means a lot to me personally and i'm so glad to have noticed the connection.

  • @OutcastRae
    @OutcastRae 4 года назад

    The editing in this is beautiful

  • @wijanto63
    @wijanto63 4 года назад +4

    Just in time for that Persona 5 Royal drop. Ever since my exposure on Persona 5, I’ve been addicted to Persona music from some of the earlier works, especially Persona 3

    • @HidinginPublic
      @HidinginPublic  4 года назад +2

      Persona 3's OST is my most go to one tbh. so many bangers

  • @alicemarga6723
    @alicemarga6723 4 года назад

    okay deadass best hiding video. Poggers/10