Danganronpa Never Commits
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THANK YOU for watching this extremely overdue video essay of mine on the mainline Danganronpa series. It’s taken me far too long to get my comprehensive thoughts out there, but I’m glad that I’ve finally made it. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have some hibernation to do.
WATCH PART 2 HERE ➤ • Danganronpa: Killing A...
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Intro ➤ 0:00
Part 1: A Shaky Foundation ➤ 1:39
Part 2: The Simplest Framework ➤ 11:25
Part 3: An Island Oasis ➤ 26:35
Part 4: The Worst Instalment? ➤ 44:04
Part 5: Wrapping Up ➤ 1:14:32
I highly recommend watching through the analysis first before reading this, but here’s an addendum of things I would have added to the video or changed if I had the time (contains spoilers!) ➤ docs.google.com/document/d/1o...
Music (in order of appearance):
Going Under - the grind
Night in the Woods - Title
Kevin MacLeod - Maccary Bay
Danganronpa - Beautiful Dead
Honkai Star Rail - Space Walk
Anno Domini Beats - Intentions
Sunless Skies - Star-Maddened Skies
Danganronpa - Beautiful Morning
Night in the Woods - Mae’s House
Sarah the Instrumentalist - Salamanca
Slay the Spire - City
Pyre - Strange Voyage (Acoustic)
Freedom Trail Studio - Tempos Vari
Hades - House of Hades
Jet Set Radio - Sneakman
Danganronpa V3 - Despair Searching
A Hat In Time - You Are Now Legally A Bird
Super Smash Bros Brawl - Dragon Roost Island
Darkest Dungeon II - The Inn
Going Under - omegaccino
TUNIC - Redwood Colonnade
Shovel Knight - Strike the Earth
Danganronpa - DISTRUST
Danganronpa 2 - Alter Ego of the New World
Sonic Mania - Lava Reef Zone (Act 1)
TUNIC - Memories of Memories
Ori and the Will of the Wisps - Turn, Turn, Turn Again
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SIR PLEASE NO IT WAS JUST A SILLY LITTLE OPINION FROM A SILLY LITTLE GUY
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don't mess with us danganronpa fans
we dont even like the series
Then what's entire point of being fans? :crazypose:
I agree with this cause it is so interesting but also so dumb like who doesn't know what an octagon
@@Rainydayz6478omg explaining again nagito said octagon in english in japanese version, that’s why hajime didn’t understand (he doesn’t know english well)
@@user-lw3sv9mv6q if they tried to make Nagito say octagon in a different language (in the English dub) I probably won't be making fun of it but they didn't so I'm still gonna make fun of it
@@Rainydayz6478 do you know what a 八角形 is?
Okay, about ten minutes in, and the free time event thing. I think there’s one character who actively goes against her free time events in trial, and that’s Maki Harukawa. If you play her free time segments, she alludes to having another girl from her orphanage she was super close to, and that she became an assassin in order to protect her. Yet in Kaito’s trial, she says that he was the first person she wanted to protect…? Something along those lines, it’s been a minute. But playing her free times makes the conclusion of the fifth trial in that game feel worse because of it, like they were trying to invalidate the ties she had to her best friend. So bizarre to me.
Yeah, felt a bit strange. Would've felt better if it was something like "first time in a long time." Would've also made the free time event feel worthwhile.
This isn't the first time a FTE had some consistency errors look at Tetuteru.
Also, Ryoma's FTEs directly ruin his character! He tries to work and get better and appears to be healing from his depression but then Chapter 2 throws that all down the drain.
@phrog5009 I actually liked that. Ryoma was someone who was trying to get better, and not just in his FTEs. He even told Kaito he'd try to be better iirc. Chapter 2 was a tragedy because a character arc was expected, but then his life was cut short. In this case, Danganronpa did the whole free time thing right, because we did actually see another side of a character, and that side died with them.
@@stardust62058 Chapter 2 demonstrates that he saw his motive video and gave up, though?
Actually, have you ever heard of 'Your Turn To Die' (Kimi ga Shine)? It is also a Japanese game and, similar to Danganronpa, its a death game with multiple characters. Its genre is a visual novel, but that doesn't hold it back, rather it may actually amplify it. In my opinion, 'Your Turn To Die' is way better than Danganronpa in terms of story, character, and effective writing. This game will make you feel downright guilty and depressed by using gameplay and story. That's why this game requires gameplay. The story is masterful on its own, but the gameplay puts that intractability and uses it to its maximum effect. I highly recommend this game if you haven't played it. I'd love to see your thoughts and views on it.
I see a YTTD mention, I click like!
I don't think YTTD is perfect by any means: after all, it's an indie visual novel made by just one person, with basically zero budget, that can even be played for free on browser. But there are things in YTTD that became very, very special to me, and those things are the reasons why I'm a fan.
@roca7268 absolutely agree 👏
YTTD is better in almost every way besides OST (Although the Remixed patch sort of makes up for that)
I think I’ve heard of that one
I played it, and it's a very fun game. I felt awful for killing the red haired student, our best friend, and the job hopping guy. The best part of it is that the protagonist, Sara I think, isn't one noted like the Danganronpa protagonists.
P.S. I forgot the names because it's been so long since I played. Sorry.
Something about the characters talents is that a lot of them are altered, some just in wording, some that can be seen as a different talent.
Aoi Asahina from the first game is the SHSL Swimmer in Japan, but in localizations, she becomes the Ultimate Swimming Pro. It’s a slight change.
Take Ibuki Mioda from the second game though, she goes from SHSL Light Music Club Member, which is a type of after school club that is the basis for shows like K-on!, compared to her English title as the very broad Ultimate Musician.
Hey, long time Danganronpa fan here. Probably since 2014/2015? I've written 319 fanfiction on the series (why yes, I am autistic, why do you ask?), and am certifiably obsessed.
That being said, I tried to go into this with an open mind. I have a LOT of criticism of Danganronpa (no one hates Danganronpa more than the people who love it), and so I was definitely interested in what you had to say.
First, regarding consequences of the game - I admit I never felt the stakes were low, but that's because I have a crippling fear of failure and tend to be a perfectionist - even failing trival things, like Danganronpa, can send me spiralling. This is something I'm trying to work on, because it's not healthy. But it does mean for me, personally, the stakes never felt that low. Looking at it objectively they definitely were, but I don't really see it as a negative personally (even if it's totally valid to do so). I'm not good at video games despite being very interested in them, so I don't mind being spoonfed (to a degree, though I agree that some of the game play is just not very good in some cases-plus I also agree that the dialogue can get. Pretty freaking repetitive).
That being said, something that drove me wild about Danganronpa is how uninspired and repetitive the bad endings you get for failing are. Makoto is always voted as the blackened, even if it doesn't make sense for the trial. It made sense for the first case, as he was framed, but Celestia's, where she framed Yasuhiro? Why would anyone vote for Makoto? I understand Danganronpa is a long game, but I would love to see more creative, varied, and in depth bad endings from them. For example, something that stood out to me regarding Ultra Despair Girls/Another Episode is that it had a very interesting bad ending, something that felt rare for the series - it's definitely my favorite of the one's I've seen. Komaru blowing up all the Monokids heads is so haunting, and her narration is unsettling too and I think very good at envoking that horror - well, at least for Danganronpa. I really wish there was more endings like this one, though it's short it packed a punch.
I really like visual novels. I'd call myself a fan of the medium. Specifically games that let you make choices that led to different outcomes/endings. Again, I'm not good at game play, but I have a love for what games are - "choose your own adventure" type stories. There's a lot of different ways to do a game, too - games where exploration affects the story are really, really cool at least in theory, but I find myself frustrated when I can't uncover everything (or at least most of what) a game has to offer, so I do tend to like somewhat limited narratives versus personalized experiences. Games where no two lets plays are the same are again, really cool in concept, and I have a lot of repsect for them, I just tend to prefer more linear stories. That being said, I do adore being given dialogue options that change how things end up - I really like multiple endings & feeling like what I say matter. Which is why it drove me nuts when Danganronpa had almost no dialogue or action choices, and one of the notable times it does in the first game, it doesn't let you pick the "wrong" option of telling Kyouko about Sakura! If you didn't want me to tell her, don't have it be an option to! I hate the illusion of choice more than if they didn't prompt me to make a choice in the first place.
I disagree with you about FTEs. I think there's something really valuable to get from them, especially in SDR2 (and before the DR3 anime's retcons). I think FTEs walk a fine line as optional content; they have to add to the character, while not necessarily being needed to understand the gist of a character. Which is very hard to do! All things considered, I think they did pretty well with most of them. I LIKE learning more things about these character, even if some of what I learn is a little trival. I agree that some FTEs lean too far into "meaningless fluff", but there's also FTEs like Mahiru, where she talks about her mom and dad & in my opinion provide extra context to why she would have joined Junko in addition to twilight syndrome murder case (before the dreaded DR3 anime retcons). Akane, too, had really good FTEs in my opinion; I'd argue her FTEs are better than the content she gets in the main game (I'm salty how they treated her and Ibuki outside of their FTEs, tbh). Other stand out FTEs include Hiyoko's, Nekomaru's, Ibuki's, and Sonia's (though less so with her imo). And then, we get FTEs like Mikan Tsumiki's, which I'd argue are VITIAL to understanding her to the point where they SHOULD NOT BE OPTIONAL. I'd argue they leaned too far in the other direction for her-they made her FTEs contain too much valuable information that the main game doesn't. In my opinion, you can't fully understand chapter three of the game without doing all of her FTEs (with maybe the exception of the last one). It is so crucial and I definitely think they leaned too much into the other direction with her. It leads to a lot of people misinterpreting her.
I also disagree about Salmon/Island/School Mode. Again, I've talked about how I don't share your views on FTEs, and that extends to this. I think its a nice reward for doinh the game, and a great way to finish all the FTEs you missed, as well as learn more about the characters on the dates you go on; specifically how they may react in a non despair (or pre despair, which is interesting to consider because we don’t see their school life outside of the DR3 anime, and even then we only see the SDR2 cast-I suppose we can gain some insight to the DR1 cast with DR0, but that only really gives insight to Junko, Mukuro, and a little bit Makoto). Plus, I think dating sims are fun! Especially when you're already invested in the characters. It's nice to think of a universe where they got to be normal (ish) teens. I don't consider it "me" dating the characters, but the protagonists of their respective games; since they're pretty much all fully fledged characters themselves. I was a teen myself when I played it though, so maybe it was less weird because of that.
Plus, at least in SDR2, the characters are technically adults. Not the best argument since they think they're teens, look like teens, and act like teens, plus it doesn't apply to V3 (I don't think? The ending kind of makes everything questionable, tbh), but that's media for you, I guess. I would say "that's anime for you", but to be honest I think sexualization of teens and "gotcha! They're not technically teens because blah blah blah!" is unfortunately apparent in media all across the world.
Hmmmm. To be completely honest, Danganronpa 1 is my least favorite game, with Super Danganronpa 2 being my favorite! I do agree that the atmosphere of DR1 is more eerie, but I liked the world building, plot including plot twists (well... for the most part; I still don't really like Mechamaru or chapter a lot of chapter 4, despite it arguably having one of the more horrifying motives provided by Monokuma), and characters a lot more in SDR2 than in DR1. But of course, that's only counting the games; my favorite installment has to be Danganronpa 0, a light novel that unfortunately never got an official localization (my icon is the POV character from the novel, actually!), and my least favorite HAS to be the Danganronpa 3 anime. So much potential in that anime that is just frustratingly not fulfilled. I've gotten a lot of flack online for saying that, but it's what I think. Still, even DR3 I don't HATE. I think it had potential, which makes how it squanders it even more disappointing. I tend to write that off as due to time constraints.
I agree with you about the tone. Sometimes its really jarring how unaffected by things they are. I think it's most jarring with Ibuki. She's supposed to be a very sweet girl, but she only acts as comic relief even when theres a deadbody on the floor. It makes her look calloused. I think its supposed to read as her trying to keep the mood up with humor and cheer up her friends, but honestly, it just makes it look like she doesn't care about her friends dying.
Yeah, "Tell them, Naegi!" Is a meme for a reason. No need to say more.
I'd argue that Makoto isn't characterless. It's just that ironically he's a lot less interesting when you're in his POV. He has a very clear moral philosophy in SDR2, he has principles, he makes somewhat morally gray choices in the cause of what he thinks is right. He believes in redeeming the remnants, even if he has to betray Future Foundation to do it... Which I'd argue is SUPER interesting. He is essentially arguing for redeemtion and restorative justice, which is a real position real people have. He is infinitely more interesting when you view him from the outside. I also want to say, the fact that he is a mostly normal guy also isn't just to insert the player-it serves to illustrate the series themes that talent DOESN'T equal hope. It's important that Makoto is normal AND the Ultimate Hope. Him being so proves Hope's Peak and people like Nagito Komaeda wrong, which is very important for the message of the series. Hope is found in the peopke around you, the bonds you have, and kindness. That's what Danganronpa says with Makoto Naegi.
I went over the character limit, so continued comment in the replies!
Alter Ego is pretty different of a personality than Chihiro, in my opiniom. I wouldn't say Chihiro comes back as an AI-Alter Ego is much more methodical and logic-driven. I also think Alter Ego coming back makes sense; they connected to the internet & uploaded a backup of themselves there. It also highlights how Junko was defeated; she let Alter Ego be at first because she thought it was funny to raise their hopes and crush them, but that bit her in the butt. She also let Alter Ego be with the hope that it could possibly led to her defeat, showing how self defeating Junko & her ideology is. I think it's... fine, that Alter Ego comes back. I consider them a completely seperate entity from Chihiro. But I do understand how it could feel cheap. (Danganronpa 3 feels cheap in this exact same way, how it makes you think Hina or Kyouko died, only for it to be a fake out - they constantly dangle the chance of one of the DR1 survivors dying and then never commit to it. Infuriating. If you're going to fake out a death in such a way, at least only do it ONCE.)
I do think they, uhm, over use the AI thing after a while. I feel like people are creating AIs so carelessly and easily. I think the moment it crossed a line for me, where I was just thinking, "And why are we making MORE AI's???" was in the Danganronpa 3 anime OVA, Super Danganronpa 2.5: Nagito Komaeda and the Destroyer of Worlds. I liked the OVA, one of the best parts of DR3 on a whole, but I was also sort of like... why though? Why did it have to be an AI doing this? Why are we making AIs so blasé now?
Yeah. The "fanservice" in SDR2 is bad. I really, really don't like it, even when I was young I hated it. I feel really bad for Mikan being used in such a way considering her backstory, too, and indignate on Akane's behalf that most of her characterization in the main game is just jokes about her body or stupidity.
Yeah, the minigames are trash. Except the logic dive. I love logic dive.
Hehe. Yeah. Nagito is a prick. I hate him
I really like a lot about Side:Future. I don't mind the suicide video as I think they actually did it in the best way they could. I like how they furthered Makoto and Kyouko's arcs, mirroring and contrasting with Danganronpa 1. I like most of the new characters (at least the ones we get to know), but... Side:Despair just detracts from it all with that brainwashing video.
Just imagine if Chisa was revealed as the mastermind and Ryota as a sort of traitor type character. I love that idea, that there were remnants Makoto missed and thats why this is happening. Keep the suicide and hope videos; have Ryota meeting Junko through the Imposter introducing them (or maybe Mikan if you want to keep her in the know about Imposter & Ryota). Either axe the brainwashing video entirely, or only use it on the reserve course.
And if you really want to use it on the remnants? You can't resist robbing them of agency and culpability and making Makoto's choice to save them less morally grey? You want to soften SDR2's message about redemption? Then at least strengthen your other message about how despair lies, how despair isn't inevitable - have Junko try to pull the class into despair like it was said she did in SDR2 & have her FAIL and resort to brainwashing afterwards. It characterizes Junko beautifully too, especially considering how she lied in SDR2 about it.
And human Chiaki? You can keep her, too, even without the brainwashing used on the remnants. She's a threat to Junko. She gives hope to the remnants, and they're torn between Junko and her. Junko proposes a test between the two of them; if Chiaki can make it through this maze, she will bow out and let Chiaki's hope win. Nagito agrees first; he's all about testing hope. Mikan agrees after; she's devoted to Junko, as the only person who pointed out how people treated her was wrong & "forgave" her existence. There's multiple escape doors in the maze and Junko claims one of them is the real one instead of leading to spiked death-she's lying. Isn't it so much worse, the idea that her friends put her into this situation of their own free will, caused her death, essentially killed her? And maybe that's why Izuru is so callous towards them dying in SDR2; he doesn't like how fickle and unloyal they are, that they betrayed Chiaki. In SDR2, his choice to put Junko AI into a simulation with also Chiaki AI gets recontextualized as him pitting Chiaki and Junko against each other for a rematch; torn between Chiaki's hope, her dying message to her, and Junko's despair. He's testing to see if Chiaki or Junko was right.
There's also another possibility for human Chiaki, but it would require tweaking Super Danganronpa 2 too. Having her be a regular remnant of despair who then later betrays the group & turns them into Makoto (to be rehabilitated probably works best with her character) would be super interesting. That's how she would be a "traitor". You'd have to tweak a lot of SDR2 (how Monokuma knows theres a traitor, the fact that the Remnants of Despair all knew about Junko being uploaded) but I think that could have potentially been interesting too.
There was so much they could have done. I have so many ideas on how to improve DR3's story. I have literally written so much fanfiction tweeking the canon of it!
I love love love love Danganronpa. But... Augh. Sometimes I am just so frustrated with it, too!
Also, why not have the Imposter or Mikan (or a combination of the two) talk down Ryota in Side:Hope? Doesn't that make more sense for Ryota's character than Hajime? I know Side:Despair focused a lot on Hajime, but... This is a Ryota-focused moment and it makes more sense to have the people he actually interacts with to talk him down.
Also, why reopen Hope's Peak? Doesn't that fly in the face of the games messages about talent not being hope, and it being dangerous to put too much emphasis on it? Was the downfall of society jot because of this very school? Why couldn't Makoto open a different school that had nothing to do with Ultimates, or just become a regular teacher even? I like the idea of Makoto as an educator (its even mentioned in Ishimaru's FTEs and just honestly fits really well) but why did it have to be Hope's Peak specifically?
Also, also! Why is Twilight Syndrome Murder Case given so little weight once its over? I like what they did with Natsumi (mostly) and especially her relationship with Hajime, but even that felt rushed; I wish we got more time with it. And the only impact the case had was motivating Hajime to join the Izuru project in her memory (which I did like), but it impacts literally nothing else. It makes it feel like it was something they felt tehy had to do & wanted to rush through. And I don't like that Mahiru was retconned to have no idea about the murder! It weakens case 2 in SDR2, and it makes Mahiru less interesting & softens her culpability and moral ambiguity! I don't like it!! I like morally ambiguous characters!!! Plus, Fuyuhiko killing Sato had NO weight whatsoever, shouldn't tensions be high between him and Mahiru because of that? We move on so quickly, and instead start focusing on Nagito for some reason! I love Nagito, but I don't want him right now! Give me Mahiru!!!
Also, I don't think Nagito is in character for most of despair arc. The only way I can justify his behavior is with the idea that Chiaki changed his philosophy on hope (sort of like how Hajime does in island mode) but we don't actually see that happen & it's not stated that thats the case, so that's more of a headcanon. And I didn't like how they did Mikan & specifically her relationship with Junko. It seemed so interesting in SDR2, but its so simple seeming here - and I can't fathom how Junko is actually set apart from anyone else who abused Mikan in her life, and why she regarded her as different in SDR2. I liked her, Imposter, and Ryota's relationship, but that was about the only thing I liked about how they handled Mikan.
I feel like Mikan being jealous of Chiaki was like, alluded to breifly but not explored in depth, which is a shame because its really interesting! Chiaki is socially inupt at first and yet forgiven & beloved by the class, unlike Mikan... the envy and bitterness that can arise from that, seeing yourself in someone and yet them being infinitely more loved than you are, its so, so interesting! Add bitterness at her never stopping Hiyoko (which probably extends to all of Mikan's classmates in her head-after all, "in the end, you're all just a bunch of bullies!") and that could be real motive to help kill her even without the brainwashing video. Mikan was already deeply messed up even before she got the remembering disease in SDR2 as evidenced by her FTEs, so it's not so far fetched.
Also. I think having it be brainwashing also greatly detracts from the Hajime/Junko foil the game had going on. In Mikan's last FTE, she directly states that Hajime is the one whose "forgiven" her, directly paralleling Junko. To me, it implied that Junko did something very similar to Hajime does in these FTEs, get to know the cast, but with malicious intent instead of Hajime's (bumbling) kindness. Yet that all gets thrown out with the brainwashing video... Hajime also parallels/foils Junko in their alter ego's/alternate identities, Izuru for Hajime and Ryouko for Junko. They're almost inverses of each other in that respect.
I would have liked to see more Yasuke Matsuda, too. That's not strictly necessary, I just love him.
Okay, I've said way too much. I'm not even done with the video, but, yeah. Those are my thoughts. Sorry for ranting!
Got to the point where you talk about Chisa being the killer. You're right, actually. That's a good idea too! I actually used it in a fanfic! (Specifically one of my despair!Chiaki fanfics. Now that I think about it, I also didn’t mention another option for Chisa; have her be foster siblings or something like that with Junko before she got adopted by a loving couple with her taking their last name and then meeting Juzo and Kyosuke with them none the wiser of her connection with Junko. Or something like that? Have her been corrupted way before she even teaches, with her helping pull the remnants down & her reason for teaching in the first place being doing so. Eehh, that ideas more rough, but it is a idea I had and used in a fanfic too. Another despair!Chiaki fanfic, actually, different from the one mentioned previously. In this situation, Chisa would be like Yasuke Matsuda or Mukuro Ikusaba.) I totally forgot to mention it as an option, though. Honestly Chisa is big missed potential, tbh.
Also don't even talk to me about Monaka. Either redeem her, make her neutral, or make her a villain, PLEASE. You could even keep her being so bored she even got bored of despair as a plot point as long as you don't contradict it at other!! Points!!! Just! Commit! To something! You're totally right that DR3 doesn't. Commit! As a Monaka fan I'm so frustrated at the potential the anime had with her character & how they didn't completely follow through. They wanted to have their cake and eat it too.
This is definitely going in my liked videos. I disagreed at some points, but you very much articulated a lot of what frustrates me about this series! I very much enjoyed this video
the fact this titanic well-worded analysis didn't at least get a like whereas "sus among us booba" right beneath it did is making my hair turn white from stress
OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH ARE YOU Buttercup_ghost ON AO3??? OH MY GOSH???
I feel like the original Distrust concept would've been cooler (Distrust the game's original name before it was changed). This version of the game would've had a Distrust meter which would go up and down depending on your actions and your interactions with the other students. This would influence how things would go in the class trials. There were also multiple different killers and victims that could happen depending on your decisions. I think the investigation was stricter as well.
Just gonna butt in early on while watching and state that the “Ultimate” title is basically a mistranslation by NIS
In the unofficial Japanese sub from SomethingAwful *have fun falling down the rabbit hole that is danganronpa internet history if curious to what the hell I’m talking abt* the titles where translated as Super HIGHSCHOOL level, SHSL, if you’ve ever dipped a toe in the Fandom you’ve definitely heard that. Which is apparently far closer to the original Japanese namesake
The trend of weird changes from simple names to entire character archetypes is something the english versions are very infamous for at this point, especially V3. I can’t attest fully with many more examples, but just look it up. I think Kokichi and Gonta might as well be different characters even just from the decisions in dubbing them.
There's a difference between a player driven mystery and a character driven mystery and Danganronpa is 100% a character driven mystery. It's not up to you to figure out what happened, it's up to the protagonist to solve it and you're just along for the ride to drive their actions.
I also just hate Junky as a character for turning into Sigma and posthumously warping the series around herself.
The whole point of a murder mystery is to allow the reader to predict who the killer is with the clues that are presented. Danganronpa fails at that with its bad writing and illogical conclusions.
By saying that the reader is supposed to not figure out what is possibly happening. Is basically invaliding their intelligence.
@@sliceninja4546some cases succeed at this, some don’t. If anything it makes character interactions more annoying.
@@morningbell3690
I disagree, almost all dr cases give you enough evidence that having a trial is worthless.
Though I do agree, it does make the character conversations/discussions annoying since most of these cases can simply end in a couple of mins if the writers didn't obv wanted to stretch out the trials.
Isn't the whole point of a murder mystery the thrill of figuring it out
@@wourydiallo1445 Maybe.
being hyperfixated on danganronpa and agreeing with every single thing in this video is like being the danganronpa story line. you contradict yourself
It's just a fascinating mess to think about, right?
Humans are contradictory by nature.
That aside honestly Danganronpa always feels like a template for something greater , but you can never be fully satisfied with the raw material you are given
At least Your Turn to Die fixes (more or less) the problem of having a hilariously linear plot where you absolutely will eventually take the right route, in YTTD you are forced to choose who dies sometimes and can kill characters on accident. I mean, that game even did right having an AI based off of a now dead companion with the emotional impact on characters that it should have.
14:23 In the dub of the April Fools Fangame Danganronpa Rebirth called Danganronpa Rebirth Voices (which was sadly cancelled), there was a character (Saiji Rokudou) who was the Ultimate Undertaker.
Just goes to show that Danganronpa fangames will always be better than the canon games.
The amount of effort Danganronpa Fangame creators/teams put into their projects is honestly amazing! Easily my favorite part of the fandom.
Also Mitsunari and Marin from Rebirth both have such adorable designs. Even though it’s canned it brought some really fun character concepts.
Wait...
_Deadman Wonderland??_
As a diehard Jojo fan, that Jojo criticism is literally so real and valid and I wish more people called out the issues in the series
Amazing video, RUclips desperately needs more danganronpa content. Just one thing. The more canon translation to the Ultimate titles is Super High School Level. So these kids are not THE best on the planet, they're just extremely advanced compared to their peers. Just like Chihiro isn't programmer №1 in the world but someone who earned a collaboration with AI researchers at age 16/18(don't remember), The SHSL Nurse is also just that. The most notable talent in this age group. She's still not a professional medic, so there might have been a very valid reason for Ryota to leave the room and bump into Junko.
Haven’t finished the video yet, but for Ishimaru the English translation of his title is weird. In Japanese it’s “Public Morals Committee Member”, which is a much different vibe than wat us English speakers got. I wish they went with more literal translations for some things.
I can definitely relate to the mind-numbingness of the editing process! I just put this video on while cooking earlier and you got a very smooth style. Looking forward to binging some more when I have more time.
That one guy named Danganronpa who doesn’t know how to use Git:
It's funny how Umineko manages to be a way better (and longer) Danganronpa despite being a kinetic Visual Novel (that means it has absolutely no gameplay, you only read the text and enjoy the amazing music u.u)
Tbf umineko and danganronpa are different stories
@@StrawberryCocoaPowder I actually think this comment of mine is kinda cringe now idk how it got 63 likes u.u
Umineko and Danganronpa couldn't be tackling more different themes if they tried wtf
haha yeah danganronpa never commits anything except for homicide
The ironic thing about fuyuhiko being the only one with a true arc is… he was supposed to die.
He was originally planned to die instead of hiyoko (who was originally planned to be a survivor.) but they feared that would make peko’s death pointless.
Which is why Mikans trial feels shockingly shabby even for danganronpa. They didn’t have the time to make the switch seamless.
It’s why hiyoko feels like her character was just… cut off. Because it was!
Not quite! Fuyuhiko was originally supposed to die after chapter 2's execution, being turned into a robot after that. Kodaka said that the chapter 2 we ended up with was way too emotional for our Baby Gangsta to turn into a comic relief character shortly afterwards, so Kodaka adjusted the death order (for example, Nidai was supposed to die in chapter 3). There's a video on RUclips called something like "Danganronpa mythbusters: Who was the original victim of Chapter 3 of DR2?", it contains the translated interview the rumor originated from
@@zakkuth7447 then why did hiyokos death feel so forced and tacked on?
@@Crazygamergal I don't object against that. Case 3 is indeed written very sloppily (it's my least favorite in the series, with V3-3 being a close contender). The issue is from what's known from the interview I mentioned the choice to switch Nekomaru with Hiyoko was made early on, right after Kodaka had finished writing ch.2. Not sure what happened with chapter 3, considering how the following chapters were fairly solid.
You can't really say failure is inconsequential when you get a graded score based on your performance. Like isn't the point of video games to get the highest score and therefore the highest grade?
Disclaimer: this comment is written after watching only up to the THH section. I played THH after it went onto Game Pass and years of it being recommended to me (I like Ace Attorney and Among Us). I don't like anime or the horror genre and this series is one of the only pieces of media I've consumed that fits into either of those categories. Went into it blind. When I got to the Junko part I was so confused on how they write something so ridiculous that I had to play the rest of the series. My theory for how Alter Ego saved Makoto, is that it is also a worm, as well as an AI, so when Kyoto and Makoto connect it to the school network, it spread to as many devices as it could as a defense mechanism. That's how I assumed it went when first playing it, so I didn't question when it saved Makoto. I did question why it didn't saved Kyoto when she was executed in the exact same way.
Game's not very fun to play, but fun to be a fan of.
9:31 well they don’t really do much with that the characters that die or get executed yet maybe one or two mentions things never get talked about again
ooo excited to watch this one later!
I always find it interesting how can someone like SDR2 without at least appreciating Komaeda as a character when he was the one making the plot interesting not to mention 2-4 and 2-5 are the best chapters of the franchise thanks to him
Holy shit, it's just like Detective Pikachu Returns. I watched RTGame's stream of it and it was like playing a downgrade of Dora the Explorer.
except the dora the explorer video games are more enjoyable
@snicksnacksnick The both of you made me remember
a memory that I haven't recalled in a long time
And that was playing an Adora the Explorer game
I would like to play it again
But unfortunately the computer it was on doesn't work anymore.
Oh well
It's in the past now. I should focus on my future.
@@AldinRamic i finally found out the one i played (somehow hooked it up to a tv from the 1990s) was likely on that thing called vsmile (it was from like 2005, so it was older than i am) but it was really entertaining. we may have it in some attic somewhere actually
@@snicksnacksnick that's cool
thats why im making my own killing game visual novel hehe
Keep me updated yo 👀
Oo good luck
i was gonna watch only a few minutes of the video and then get some breakfast, but unfortunately i couldn't commit to that, and i ended up watching the whole essay instead.
as to be expected of a video from the ultimate anime hater sojournerkai.
I never got into a the series because I heard that V3 reveals everything is a lie. So, it retcons its own series for shock value.
Also, the whole Ultimate thing only seems to apply to specific characters, and some seem like amateurs of their supposed expertise. There is an Ultimate Fanfiction writer who has written fanfiction for ONE series and nothing else. There are so many layers of stupid in that.
The ultimate thing is a translation error, it should be "Super High School Level" meaning they're the best at what they do within their age group
V3 isn't in the same continuity as 1 and 2
It doesn't, Danganronpa v3 is a completely separate setting from Danganronpa 1 and 2.
In fact it's actually released as "new Danganronpa V3" , it was advertised that it's completely new and unrelated to the first two, the twist was actually that it is connected only to tell you no that was a lie it's not.
Also no, they are super high school levels not ultimates, they are not the best to ever exist, they are the best in their generation. As there are "former ultimates" who are basically older ultimates of the same field or there are people who are almost as good as the ultimates they are just not high school age.
And it's about the talent it self, the ability, not the achievement.
If I had the time, resources, and team, I would make Danganronpa: Brotherhood.
Danganronpa is frustrating because there’s good to be found, but it's quite literally held together with duct tape and hope. GamingMagic13 gave the writing a more thorough thrashing than I have the cognitive ability to, but I have my own grievances and it is KILLING me that my own fixes will never be made canon.
I mean, look. What was the latest addition to this franchise, and possibly the LAST one? A goddamn gacha game with the thinnest story possible. Ugh.
Edit 7/3/24: Ok so me and Gamingmagic...kiiiinda aren't on good terms anymore lmfao, so I'm running a retraction on that part of my comment. I still really want a Danganronpa Brotherhood, though. For Kirumi. FOR KIRUUUUMMIIIIIII!
It's not just GamingMagic13. I recommend Ce53 and his analysis of danganronpa.
Though warning there is strong language. He does make some good points if you look past it.
IT’S REAL! THE DANGANROPA VIDEO IS REAL!
heavily underrated video, dang
also FINALLY someone gives koichi more spotlight
excellent video, hope it picks up more people!
30:32 Even as a Dangraronpa fan, DR2 and DR3's fanservice wasvery jarring compared to DR1, but anime's got to anime
ITS HERE! THE LONG AWAITED DANGANRONPA VIDEO IS HERE!
And after dead meat doing a kill count of Danganronpa, coincidence? I think not!
Love the video kai! And can't wait for the next episode
I could genuinely have given or taken the Danganronpa 3 anime. I actively enjoyed parts of it, particularly of the Despair Arc. But if any single moment (outside of V3) spoiled my enjoyment of the series, it was the reveal of the survival of the SDR2 characters. I actively choose to ignore that detail in my personal headcanon.
and the way they all look pretty much the same even though they were supposedly mutilating themselves & being ultimate despair right before.. Did their limbs just... grow back?
i didnt even start the video yet but to me danganronpa is one of those series that isnt actually that good, but because of nostalgia, you look back at it fondly. danganronpa was basically my life back in middle school
okay after watching the video i think you should definitely play ultra despair girls because it is simultaneously the best and worst game in the series
The game got me into more mystery detective games
Tell 'em, Kai!
Guys I have a confession to make
When watching animated shows, I love to watch stuff with an artstyle I like, and sometimes I'll like the art so much it'll be the whole reason i watch the show lol.
However, Danganronpa is my one, and only exception. I hate the art style so much and i cant even tell you why. Is it the linework? The screwball eyes? The comic book outlines? I literally cant tell you, but i hate the artstyle so much it has made me not want to play the game or watch the show despite it being so popular. I literally recognise a small pixelated image in the corner of something as danganronpa because i hate the artstyle so much.
I have read stuff by beginner young artists, that look equivalent to anime george washington or that one drawing of sasuke thinking. I watched all of rwby, despite how bad the models looked (even though the choreography made up for it) but danganronpa for some reason is where i draw the line. I purposefully avoid talking about it when people bring it up because what do i even say? "Sorry its too ugly??"
Im hoping this story can give me some context for that insane nagito guy with white hair so i can appreciate fanart i see of him on instagram, though it seems like this guy doesnt like the game very much.
no because you are so real for this the only other art styles that manage to fill me with actual violent urges just by thinking about them are jojo parts 1-3 and baki
@@realdavestrider OMG I COMPLETELY GET THAT
I hated Jojo at first but after watching it a bit I came to hate the art less. I even tried drawing it once
When I see Baki though, I just get kinda disgusted... Like it's just the way the muscles are drawn are so circular and wierd and unrealistically big. And even just the faces too, idk how to explain it but I get the feeling WIERD stuff happens in that anime. THAT kind of wierd stuff.
42:18 nononono don't just brush over that, that part in particular bothered me . Shouldn't have her body been crushed in the first game ? How on earth are any of these reminants getting their hands on her body parts???
If you like slow burn character driven narratives, I'd recommend Frieren.
Yk what? Danganronpa is best in written novel form like in Danganronpa zero (junko is a much more compelling villian here.) and Danganronpa kirigiri. Its dog water in anime form. And somewhat alright in visual novel form (the killing game ), it's biggest flaw is the repetitiveness and useless fillar dialogue it has, so i think if it was just a novel alot of those issues would've been fixed.
22:18 yeah that's quite a problem really, just like the octagon question in dr2 for example. It's mostly a Japanese to English thing
THE VIDEO EXISTS LES GOOOOOOOOOO
11:29 Excuse me, is that Honkai Star Rail ost?!
it scared me when it played... for a moment I thought i had accidentally left the game running in the background somehow
2:11 "It's basically Among Us the visual novel."
Gnosia:
NAME OF THE WIND FAN SPOTTED?! (
Oh holy shit this is so well edited and so smooth and i am only two minutes in. Can’t begin to fathom how long this took. I need to set aside some time to sink my teeth into this video properly…
If you really wanna know:
I first played DR1 and 2 in the spring of 2021, watched 3 over the summer, and then played V3 in the fall. In between those time periods, I wrote the first script, which was later canned (but I uploaded it as a commentary track to my other channel, A Shiny Sylveon). Took a break from it until I revised and amended the script in March of this year. Then, I recorded all of the audio and camera segments in May and was intermittently editing (moved houses once) until I finished the videos earlier this month. It didn't need to take that long, but the iteration you see now is some six to seven months of irregular work because YT isn't my job.
yuppp yup. if i tried to write down all the ways danganronpa doesnt commit to itself, i could be here for weeks.
some language notes!
-i hope someone else has already mentioned, but the official english translation of danganronpa kinda obscures some terminology. ex: "Ultimate [blank]" are more accurately called "super high school level [blank]" and talents like the ultimate "moral compass" are more literally translated as the ultimate "public morals committee member"- which in a school setting is like a hall monitor. This means that while character's talents can seem downright supernatural, the intended implication is that they're the best of the best possible for highschoolers. this ties into them being hope for the future yada yada themes. and that if a character's talent seems confusing for their actions or skill set, its probably worth reviewing the literal translation, just in case that elucidates the WAY their character is taken to absurdity.
-anime speech is unrealistic in many ways, but the repeating things is actually more realistic than other stuff (like exaggerated cadences, accepted levels of politeness, etc). In japanese, repeating phrases is a fairly natural part of conversation for the sake of showing attentiveness and engagement. There are times in anime and especially in danganronpa where i think this too is exaggerated (UNDER THE TABLE YOU SAY), but its a little less about spoon-feeding information to your audience and more about having the characters take the mystery theyre solving seriously. Japanese in general has a much higher tolerance for repetition than english that i think is often difficult to make sound as initially intended when translated.
silly story nitpicks
-yeah the characters being/understanding themselves to be highschoolers really chafes against fanservice and fanservice gags. Regarding hiyoko as pedobait i think the idea is that she gets a special mention on account of Looking younger than everyone else, not simply being young. which is still pretty fucked up even though it applies if she were of-age in every way and yeah i care even less for this idea as i finish typing this
-"izuru kamukura was unaware he would be caught by the power of the neo world program" no he knew. he did it intentionally. there's not even precedent to think he wouldn't know that
Thanks for this! Especially the language notes!
Ayo, danganronpa analysis with nitw intro, awesome
0:23 i was so relieved here because most of the time i refuse to watch danganronpa videos because i know at some point there'll probably be a grossly sexual comment made about one of the teen characters.. but thats what i get for playing the game series where a sexual pose is the key to solving a murder in the second game
i see you with that night in the woods ost segue
i've put off watching this video for a while, because i find that a few of the critiques of danganronpa that i've seen don't engage with the series in good faith. you actually do engage with it, and point out what you like about the game, and i think that makes your critiques feel justified; there's stuff here you like, but the stuff you dislike drags it down. that's a very refreshing take, considering the loudest voices on the subject of danganronpa seem to be "it all sucks and is all irredeemable garbage media for teenagers with no taste". acknowledging the positives that danganronpa has boosts your credibility as a critic, imo.
i think your point about dr working better as an anime is really interesting, because in my experience, most of the fan base seems to disagree. i think that's because the fanbase as a whole is more interested in the *characters*, while you're more interested in the *gameplay experience*. a cast of 16 is big, and an anime doesn't have the time to devote sections to each character (look at how the dr1 anime adaptation basically tells us nothing about the characters with the exception of naegi and kirigiri). meanwhile, the danganronpa games and their free time events basically exist to fill that gap. the fanbase, which primarily wants to learn more about the characters, is completely content with this solution. however, as you pointed out, the limitations imposed by the player needing to participate in the class trials makes the protagonist (most egregiously naegi) seem stupid and makes the player feel like they've had information simply spoon fed to them. to learn more about the characters, the game format works better. to get a good murder mystery experience, the anime format works better. i think it's interesting to see where different perspectives lie on what's most "important" in danganronpa.
what would be the solution to this? my idea was a danganronpa anime without the free time events, but put the ftes on some sort of computer or mobile game in a visual novel format. but it sounds kind of silly to have to play a visual novel to understand an anime. then again, danganronpa v3 is supposed to be an alternate timeline where you don't need to be familiar with the rest of the series to get into it, and that is ostensibly false... so, yknow.
tl;dr: danganronpa bad... but also, danganronpa good? danganronpa nuance.
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IT'S HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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FINAL SPACE MENTION.
Sus among us booba
So true
I honestly agree a bit
3:44 that is absolutely hilarious
it's one of a kind
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO
Three comments:
Not talking about V3 is a blessing and a curse.
UDG is *technically* in-between 1 and 2 lorewise, it's just meant to be played after 2 because it spoils 2.
If you didn't like watching all of 3's arcs separately, if it helps, I was recommended to watch episode one of the present arc, then episode one of the past, then episode two of the present, etc.
Also I'm in this video, poggies
Just wait for next week's video :)
Have you heard of Aviary Attorney? It's like Ace Attorney but you can lose a trial and the game just carries on with the story changing to adapt. It's on Steam. Seems like something you'd enjoy after hearing you didn't like the low stakes.
What are your thoughts on the zero escape franchise?
1:00:58 so I wanted to say that on some level the anime retcons Danganronpa:Zero, a light novel that also explores Hopes Peak prior to the events of the first game.
…I like DR0 better
9 minutes in and im interested to hear your thoughts on other anime-esque mystery VNS such as Umineko, Zero Escape and Ace Attorney
3:45 : I screamed.
Dunno why this showed up in my reccs, but honestly plentybof anime have what you are looking for. Both Jojo and akame ga kill are shonen (run in magazines for teenage boys). While there are plenty if great series from shonen magazines, try looking into some seinen (demographic of adult men), shojo (teen girls), or josei (adult women).
Hell, he'll enjoy Frieren, the original FMA, Apothecary Diaries, and Nana at least if he ever gave them a chance
PEAAAAAAAAAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Soooooooo…we just not gonna talk about hiyoko’s murder weapon orrrr…
😬
Am sorry but most of your criticism goes out the window when you hate both anime and visual novels. Danganronpa specially is extremely anime on purpose since it basically parodies a lot of the tropes for anime and is very much self aware. The series is clearly not something made to appeal to you.
did you listen to what he actually said or just hear "i don't like anime" and tune out? he says he doesn't like anime with a lack of worldbuilding and complex narratives, and he explored danganronpa because it had those things.
and he's barely critiquing the tropes, just the franchise's foundational issues. danganronpa plays with tropes sometimes but you can tell while playing it that it wants to be taken seriously as a game and franchise. you can't just sweep the varying quality of gameplay and storytelling under the umbrella of "parody"
@@angelinaxtriana Just saying that not enjoying visual novels and anime would hurt the enjoyment of anyone by a huge amount trying to get into Danganronpa cause those aspects are a huge part of the appeal of Danganronpa. And sure their is plenty of moments where the game wants you to take it seriously but their is a lot of parodying and silly stuff in Danganronpa as well that are clearly not meant to be taking to seriously too. But anyway, I wrote this comment half way in the video. When I finished the video later I actually end it up thinking he had better points then I expected, didn’t agree with everything but is a decent review, no hate to the guy.
you do have a good point about that even if the video doesn't touch much on it, a lot of my appreciation for dr comes from watching others play it. playing it myself was so tedious bc of the visual novel style so it definitely can impact enjoyment of an otherwise interesting series. i disagree with him saying danganronpa seemed better as an anime just because it's story focused, that definitely comes from a bias against visual novels
Not at all, his criticisms are extremely fair to the game
It is not a parody, it literally plays a lot of the clichés straight
My favorite franchises are the ones with the wacky bullshit lore like Danganronpa and Ensemble Stars. One has a teenage prime minister and the other has a cannibal cult. One has the Illuminati and the other has assassins in an idol business. Fun times~
But they do commit murder :]
I think the only anime that I am proud to say that I have seen and am a fan of is Code Geass. There is some elements of your stereotypical anime nonsense, which is not that bad, and is treated as a side plot meant to have something counteract the surprisingly dark, serious, and at moments thought provoking majority of the show. It also gives has all main characters in an explicitly morally grey light including, especially the main character who is very smart but still makes regretable mistakes with permanent consequences.
It made me really appreciate story in media and changed what games I seek out that I would have ignored beforehand. Also, if you plan on watching it, watch the English dub. The performances are great. Also, mainly, the story makes more sense (and no Japanese voice actors awkwardly trying to pronounce English words) if the characters are speaking English instead of Japanese.
Of course I am a fan of Danganronpa and of course I hate Danganronpa
Not even like, a minute in and this feels really whiney geez, idk if ill come back to watch more of this lol. If i do though i hope i come back and am extremely pleasantly surprised. Kinda doubt I will but who knows idk
16:58
Yeah , kids story are plain and simple ; always leading to the point.
Teenagers story are more complex and usually rely on a grey area ; but always tells away the point. Bc the point its what matters.
Adult , and i repeat ; only adult stories are the ones that have both plain and complex , grey areas , straight up just bad and worse points of view and then have the gut to let the point of the story be a viewers interpretation.
You are fundamentally misunderstanding the demography of the series and get mad over a series about pink blood teenagers for jaoanese teenagers not being make for adults
Literally HOWWW can you hate nagito he’s the best character by far
I have mixed feelings about him to. As a character, he does fascinate me but I don’t blame anyone for thinking he’s annoying af. My greatest issue with him is his constant self depreciation. Bro makes it his MISSION to hammer it in that he thinks very little of himself.
@@redballoon9007 yeah I honestly understand cause he is annoying as hell but I love him so much. Like every time he’s on screen you know he’s about to say something crazy. I love the way he thinks and how he (spoiler) completely switches on everyone in chapter 4. Like it was funny as hell how he started talking down to hajime and everyone else. He’s so delusional that he thinks he can be called the ultimate hope after attempting to kill everyone except chiaki. He’s clearly insane and I love that
"video essay to complain about a popular work to falsely go against herd mentality no. "who-even-cares-anymore"
Tbh i also dislike anime i dont watch it and its not for me but ive always liked the first two danganronpa games alot. I found them funny and characters so likeable and i love the gameplay. I think the overarching story is pretty silly and i could let it slide for the first one bc its mostly grounded but the second one really jumped the shark but the characters and gameplay were still likable enough to let is slide yk? Like i was disappointed that Junko was still the big bad but whatever. But i love monokuma he is just do devilishly fun and cute also the fking music goes so hard in the first two games 😭The first game is overall my favorite though i do feel like the trial gameplay was better and more challenging in the second one especially loved that one escape room mini game where i did it without looking anything up and it was so satisfying. I definitely agree the stakes are low for failing a trial but i dont care abt that personally. The third game was just a disappointment and the characters were just not as interesting or compelling i couldn’t even get past the first chapter i just stopped caring. I appreciate ur compliments and criticisms! Really interesting and i honestly agree. Especially ugh the third game just bummed me out🙄 but i still like replaying the first two and befriending other ppl or doing the trials on harder difficulty.
check out the game 999
17:41
I’m actually glad I’m not the only one who kinda feels this way about Kyoko. She too smart for her own good. She makes Makoto look stupid af. She’s like the Mia Fey if Danganronpa but worse since Mia isn’t around to guide you through investigations.
But that is the point of Kyoko... She is the SHSL detective... It would be weirder if Makoto was better than her. Makoto's role is to be the people leader, guiding the cast to hope. He doesn't have to be a genius, he has to be emotionally supportive to the point of saving the cast from themselves.
In general, the first game's survivors were not the people you'd expect to survive in the end.
That includes the "mentor" character that's been your most reliable ally in the trials throughout the game. You'd expect her to buy the farm near the end, meaning that Makoto is on his own for the finale. Of course, that instinct leads into the Chapter 5 bad ending - since the genre savvy player notices that the evidence is pointing to Kyoko, and figures that this is her time to check out. And thus falls into the mastermind's trap.
7:31 wow I wonder if you’ve read any other visual novels to back this claim up that aren’t Fate or some shit like it.
NiTW is very much a visual novel.
ngl i love danganronpa specifically because its bad and i feel like if it was genuinely good i wouldnt have as much fun with it
You can really tell he doesn’t watch anime because like half of these criticisms I just brushed off as stupid anime bullshit. Like if you want the good stuff you gotta pay the stupid anime bullshit tax of lolis, perverts and contrived plots to justify it’s own bullshit.
True, or you just watch the minority of great anime that are genuinely good while avoiding most of the typical ''just anime things'' shit
And that's what pisses me off - the fact that such a tax is required in the first place
You can still criticise those common theme bruh and he only mentioned those parts once
People really say this as if it's a "gotcha" huh ? Why should I pay the tax when I can just play better games/watch better stories ?
@@wourydiallo1445You can literally make this excuse about anything. Like even if you watch or play something good their is always another show or game that is even better out their.
As a hopeless:tm: fanatic of DR, you spitting Brother haha. Also yea DR3 is the worst piece of fiction i ever saw.
You are a valorant fan
You are an anime fan
@@porygon-z8270 no need for compliments
Mid.
You should definitely check out your turn to die: death game by majority it’s similar to danganronpa but it’s way better
okay i was gonna watch but DID YOU JUST DISS MY GLORIOUS ANIME TOWER OF GOD???? (it was adapted from a webtoon made around 2014 (i think) thats why it sounds like a fanfiction description 😭) anyways i CANNOT watch this anymore this is BLASPHEMY!!!! 😢😢💔😡😡⁉️⁉️⁉️
The anime was really bad but nagito was alive in the end so I’ll forgive it 👍
I love danganronpa
Why didn’t you talk about the transphobia they show towards chihiro or poor rep of DID with genocider and fukawa?
If you just felt like you werent qualified to speak on it thats perfectly fine! But in a video where you’re mentioning the franchises flaws, those are two REALLLLY big ones.
Not trying to say you’re like making a point or anything by not mentioning it, I was just curious as to why you didnt :3
The transphobia is a problem, but the DID thing is a stretch. Genocide syo was never meant to be DID representation in the first place. It's completely fictional with everything she does.