You mentioned "musical oxymorons" and that's awesome, cause the Velvet Room Attendants for this game have the word Oxymoron written on their hats (the letters split evenly between the two). Oxymorons seem to be a bit of a theme for P5.
As a big fan of the concept of an 'oxymoron', I'm a bit surprised. Hadn't actually really noticed them yet, but now I'll take some closer inspection, then
It's combined with the whole theme of personas and individuality and how standing out is bad and so much more. Honestly this game is so subtlety intelligent.
it's not even human comprehension. Since you're going all the way around the circle of fifths, there's no way for anyone, regular or superhuman, to figure out if it's brightening or darkening. It's just completely all over the place.
@@mikebliss3153 Yeah, it makes sense because it's quoting the triumphant motif from the end of the game, in "Swear to My Bones", "Jaldabaoth", "Our Beginning" and "Hoshi to Bokura to". Though it seems most prevalent in P5, there's evidence this motif has been a thing since P2.
@@Chubby_Bub I somehow missed all those musical references! Now I want to go back and play it again because knowing that just makes me love the whole thing even more. Also I haven't played any of the other Persona games yet. I'll have to keep my ears open for it. Such a powerful motif. It's like the theme for true friendship.
I am honest right now: I understand little of what you are saying. I know a little bit about music theory, but not nearly enough. Also thanks to being German all terminology is different to what I know. But even if I don't understand much I am really intruiged by your videos. And the more I watch the more I understand.
It starts at note names and goes all the way to ...well, everything, really. It's my native language but I have intentionally started learning it in English because I don't wanna deal with that kind of "French" approach to renaming everything. I mean ... c d e f g a H c...not a b, but H...and that's just the kindergarten obvious level. And I know it has history and meaning, but, come on... Edit: And I know that English came later, so it's really English that did the whole renaming thing, really...but ...yeah.
Relatable. I know next to nothing about music theory and the little I do know isn't much help since I'm Greek. But this channel is so informative and educational, there's a lot to learn by listening to what this man has to say. Plus, it brings me one step closer to understanding fully why Persona 5 is such a masterpiece. Sure, some things you can just tell but being able to explain them is also important.
I feel you. I can sort of stay in the loop through my long time spent studying music, but it is sometimes hard to stay on top of explanations, especially regarding chords, due to me being Russian, where pretty much *all* terminology sounds different. Except for major/minor. Still, this is extremely interesting to ponder about.
@@hansbrackhaus8017 yeah in French it's La Si Do Ré Mi Fa Sol -> A B C etc... I start with it and call them like that when i'm talking with French people (i'm french so... most of the time) but english notation is really usefull. A lot of partition on the internet are in english. Even on little french band that are praticaly unknowed, most of the time, the chords are written with english notation so it's a lot of help to know it ^^ Even many teachers write the chords with the english notation but call them by their French notation so i was very strange for me when i start xD I know your post is hold so i hope your are ok now! 😉
I'm not sure about the "for dummies" part of it since I'm completely lost due to having no background in music theory but I see where you're coming from
Well, yeah, it's easy to be lost. But on that note, try reading the book 'music theory for dummies'. Yes, that exists. And yes, it's what you think it is. That series of books really can get quite bizarre at times. XD But, it does a good job of explaining things in a way that make sense. It will at least explain the concept of keys, modes, chords, chord progressions and song structure. (I believe it mentions the circle of 5ths too, though I'm not entirely sure.) In any event, it's just enough of the most basic basics to help you make sense of slightly more complex ideas like these.
@@yourfathersfather8751 i know im a year late, but this is so not entry level stuff, specially since the information goes by really quickly in most of his videos, dont get discouraged to learn more about theory
Boi here I go... A RIVEEER IN A DRYYYYYY LAND THE LAST ACE IN A LOST HAND WHEN THE HOPE OF NEW BEGGININGS BURNS OUR FEET NOW WE NEED IT A HEARTBEAT FOR A TIN MAN OASIS IN A SINGED LAND REMIND US WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, CREAAAATING NEW LIIIIIVE CREATING RIVERS IN THE DESEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERT
I love the fact that the song Blooming Villain is practically fighting itself with it's increasing and decreasing tones. Also, I love how Beneath the Mask makes you feel like dirt with its theme at first but your own knowledge that you are really hiding your "true persona" from the world makes the melancholy almost comforting in a way. That's the genius behind Persona's themes that are different from any other game I've ever played it's the fact that it combines mood theming with your mentality based off the situation to effectively get you in a mood.
Who does all the transcription work for you channel? It's spot on and very well written. I may hire them if I need someone to transcribe something in the future.
Honestly, I just love watching the transcriptions with the music. Would be great if you'd add more of that, or maybe a video "transcriptions + music". Often I watch these sections over and over. Btw, I can also do good transcriptions for $$ if 8-bit doesn't have time :P It's really bizarre how badly done most transcriptions / arrangements are.
Shoji Meguro is the best game composer of all time. Every game from Persona and Shin Megami Tensei spin offs have FANTASTIC OST. I recommend you listen to all the Megaten game OST's
This was actually your best video yet. You super clearly explained not just the theory and the chords, but you also made it extremely clear why things are perceived the way that they are when listening to it. Things I didn't know before but I think is super cool. Well done!
Wow this is one of the best videos I've seen on the actual uses of mode mixture other than "It sounds cool." I've always wondered do you transcribe all these sheets by ear or do you find resources online? Thanks for the great content!!!
hearing the music of persona 5 makes me miss persona 5. the game is so long and is very much a life simulator as it is an rpg it draws you in. but im not playing another 116 hours of the same game
I'm definitely looking forward to the "Tutorial level" music theory videos, I feel like I really should study music theory, but I never knew where to even begin, the videos linked in the description already helped a lot!
Michirin9801 Start by learning all of the intervals, how to spell them, their relative stabilities, and why there are differences in perceived stability. Go from there to learning how to build the major scale. In tonal music, these tones have a hierarchy of stability where the tonic (first scale degree) is the most stable, then dominant (fifth), mediant (third), submediant (sixth), supertonic (second), subdominant (fourth), leading tone/subdominant (seventh). Then build diatonic chords from that scale. Learn why the chord built from the fifth scale degree (dominant) leads so strongly to the chord built from the first scale degree (tonic). Subdominant chords usually precede dominant ones. If you get that, the secondary dominant concept isn't that difficult. If you understand what it means to build chords in thirds and how to count to 13, it's not that much of a stretch to understand extensions and alterations. If understand the major scale, learning how to get the 7 basic modes isn't that difficult. The more you learn about music theory, the easier it is to learn the next thing. If it sounds difficult, don't worry. It really isn't. There's just a lot of information to learn.
After being stalked nonstop by lusty fans, Kermit used a voice masker to lower his pitch and hide his true identity while pursuing his true passion: not comedy, but music theory and analysis
This is probably your most theoretically interesting video yet. I finally understand what mode mixture is all about now. Please incorporate the same kind of analyses in other videos, it's enlightening!
Mode Mixture? Huh, I find it weird how so many terms in music theory are so different in different languages. It's hard to look up any information about them in different languages, when the terms are so different. In some cases there isn't even an alternative for the term in a different language due to people treating certain topics subcategories of others and thus don't label them as their own thing.
Use a different google. Surprisingly that has a big impact on the search results even when they are from places with the same language. Compare your search results between Google.com, Google.co.uk and google.com.au for instance, and you might be surprised at the outcome... The problem sometimes is that searching in some languages doesn't yield meaningful results anyway unless you do it properly. for instance, if you want to search in japanese, you had better be using kanji, hiragana and katakana. If you don't, your results will inevitably be non-native websites, since native sites are highly unlikely to ever use romaji. While that obviously isn't an issue if you're searching in say, dutch, since the alphabet is the same, there's a bit of a trick to searching for things in multiple languages...
Man thank you for stressing the emotional impact of theory concepts, that dimension is way overlooked in music theory videos on youtube i think. The WHY should we use modal mixture or negative harmony or non-functional harmony and so on is perhaps the most important thing to discuss when explaining MUSIC theory, and you did a big service to the community for doing this. Thanks as well for visual representations on the circle of fifths, that is SO intuitive and makes sense visually (the more distance on the circle the more dramatic the sound change will be). I love how well put your videos are, transcriptions, audio examples, images from the game to keep us engaged, etc etc. You are really good at explaining and producing videos, i wish you the best you're on a great track ! PS. Here's a channel that stresses the emotional impact as well when discussing music theory. Check out "Jazz Duets"
i love your point about how mode mixture is an important and useful way to communicate a dynamic shift in "the situation", particularly from the perspective of a character in a story
I like revisiting these every once and a while. I've been in music school for a semester and a half for composition and these make more sense every time.
I've just started playing with the idea of modal mixture recently and this video really helped lay it all out simply for me! Awesome as always, very informative, and I can't wait to go try some of it now with this knowledge :D
there are parts of the video where your excitement for the matter is showing. it's really subtle, but it gets me a little pumped too. your videos have really made me want to pursue music theory further!
I had a conversation with a guy I know, who does the lighting at Persona Live, not long before Persona 5 was released. And he spoke about Shoji Meguro doing the music, and comparing it to stuff from Persona 4. And he said he has fun with the beat being weird, to troll him with the speed of the lighting.
I binged most of the videos on your channel and I have to say, this is truly one of the best of them. Not just the structure and thoroughness of your explanations and analyses, but the superbly colorful way you've described them make this something I can't help but watch over and over again. Thank you so much for all the hard work you do!
If I'm having trouble following along? Dude, always. Music theory turns my brain to mush. I'm thankful for your knowledge, granting me greater appreciation for the genius behind the music I enjoy.
Thank your for that great video. I got into this dark/bright scales stuff because of Adam Neely and Jacob Collier and now you have this video about this theme with good examples. Thank you!
I have 1 question: how does Beneath the Mask sound so ambient, while it isn't written all that ambient? Or in general, why is this soundtrack so good and criminally underrated
This is pretty fantastic, I had heard this soundtrack but now I have once again a deeper appreciation of its style and method with this mode mixture doolally. Excellent stuff!
Words can't describe how much I love this video, it really hammered home not only the concept but also the situation in which to use said concept. So many channels simply explain what a technique is without suggesting WHY you would use it. Love the format and the channel, Congrats on a year!
My boy, Adam Neely. 🙌🏼 In all seriousness, this is the best video I've seen on mode mixture; I love how you use concrete examples to explain the effects of borrowing different chords. Thank you!
Hey man, just wanna say I think your work is great and this is becoming one of my favorite videos to go back to and reference for myself as well as my students. Your examples are very clear with nice visual representation, and I really like how you illustrate that it's about the "movement" as opposed to any key or mode in particular being bright or dark. In my mind, a key first introduced is the neutral slate, and the direction that goes in is what gives it the color and flair of how it grows and transforms throughout a piece. Thanks for what you do, and please keep up the amazing work.
Using words I've never heard and putting Google to work installing knowledge into my brain. I love songs in minor keys but I had no idea they could be enriched so much. Thank you very much for this, I absolutely love it
This is so cool! I haven't thought about theory in ages, and certainly not this advanced. Thanks so much for the breakdown, I've been listening to this soundtrack an awful lot, so this is a basic application of the theory you've stated.
Neat! I just beat persona 5 and learned the basics of the circle of fifths for writing simple songs on guitar. Can’t wait to try this out and fail miserably. Thanks mang!
ive never played a single persona game and blooming villain is already my favorite song in the whole series, the beginning sounds like it was taken straight outta doom and i love it
The amount of knowledge and passion needed to do just ONE of these videos is beyond Admirable! These videos are very entertaining and artistic, especially for someone so musically uneducated as I am(as far as the structure thereof)
Can we get an analysis on "River on the Desert"? I'm curious about how that music was constructed to give that overwhelming feeling at the start and how it goes to a jazzy feel while retaining all the tension.
It feels like being a blade of grass pushing against a shoe, you feel so low in that moment so you take that lowness you feel and turn it into richeous anger remembering where you came from and what your fighting for, the minor chord is the phantoms in a way pushing against the darker aspects of their society while also being a ray of hope within an overlooked fraction of society.
So what you're saying is Persona 5's soundtrack is scientifically proven to be a banger
Yes
So it’s the same type of banger as Star Platinum
@@JoelTrujillo I see you're a stand user of culture as well
Shit slaps bro
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You're talking persona music? With actual theory?
.......
*Deep breath
*WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN MY WHOLE LIFE*
Where have you been? Been searchin all along
BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABY
@XxcomifanxX Without a clue....
@XxcomifanxX Without grasping yet
@XxcomifanxX Where have I been?
You mentioned "musical oxymorons" and that's awesome, cause the Velvet Room Attendants for this game have the word Oxymoron written on their hats (the letters split evenly between the two). Oxymorons seem to be a bit of a theme for P5.
thank you for pointing this out
Wow! Thanks for pointing that out! That’s so interesting to know!
As a big fan of the concept of an 'oxymoron', I'm a bit surprised. Hadn't actually really noticed them yet, but now I'll take some closer inspection, then
It's combined with the whole theme of personas and individuality and how standing out is bad and so much more. Honestly this game is so subtlety intelligent.
I just played through Royal, and I never noticed that. Nice catch!
G-major is "G"ood,
E-minor is "E"vil.
Try again.
E major
G minor
*OMG*
Wow, you are everywhere!
I'd say it's all relative.
12:11 Common it can't be that bad
12:17 WHAT THE FUCK, THIS STRAINS THE LIMITS OF MY HUMAN COMPREHENSION
I kinda like it.
What will those jazz duderinos think of next?
All music should sound this way forever
it's not even human comprehension. Since you're going all the way around the circle of fifths, there's no way for anyone, regular or superhuman, to figure out if it's brightening or darkening. It's just completely all over the place.
t. Schoenberg
I'm transcribing it right now. Such good lines!
The Blooming Villain theme gives me ALL the goosebumps when it turns heroic.
Literally feels like the Phantom Thieves turning the tide.
@@mikebliss3153 that's probably what they were going for
@@mikebliss3153 Yeah, it makes sense because it's quoting the triumphant motif from the end of the game, in "Swear to My Bones", "Jaldabaoth", "Our Beginning" and "Hoshi to Bokura to". Though it seems most prevalent in P5, there's evidence this motif has been a thing since P2.
@@Chubby_Bub I somehow missed all those musical references! Now I want to go back and play it again because knowing that just makes me love the whole thing even more.
Also I haven't played any of the other Persona games yet. I'll have to keep my ears open for it.
Such a powerful motif. It's like the theme for true friendship.
I am honest right now: I understand little of what you are saying. I know a little bit about music theory, but not nearly enough. Also thanks to being German all terminology is different to what I know.
But even if I don't understand much I am really intruiged by your videos. And the more I watch the more I understand.
Thanks! I've heard that German terminology is totally different, but I don't know much about it
It starts at note names and goes all the way to ...well, everything, really. It's my native language but I have intentionally started learning it in English because I don't wanna deal with that kind of "French" approach to renaming everything. I mean ... c d e f g a H c...not a b, but H...and that's just the kindergarten obvious level.
And I know it has history and meaning, but, come on...
Edit: And I know that English came later, so it's really English that did the whole renaming thing, really...but ...yeah.
Relatable. I know next to nothing about music theory and the little I do know isn't much help since I'm Greek. But this channel is so informative and educational, there's a lot to learn by listening to what this man has to say. Plus, it brings me one step closer to understanding fully why Persona 5 is such a masterpiece. Sure, some things you can just tell but being able to explain them is also important.
I feel you. I can sort of stay in the loop through my long time spent studying music, but it is sometimes hard to stay on top of explanations, especially regarding chords, due to me being Russian, where pretty much *all* terminology sounds different. Except for major/minor.
Still, this is extremely interesting to ponder about.
@@hansbrackhaus8017 yeah in French it's La Si Do Ré Mi Fa Sol -> A B C etc...
I start with it and call them like that when i'm talking with French people (i'm french so... most of the time) but english notation is really usefull.
A lot of partition on the internet are in english. Even on little french band that are praticaly unknowed, most of the time, the chords are written with english notation so it's a lot of help to know it ^^
Even many teachers write the chords with the english notation but call them by their French notation so i was very strange for me when i start xD
I know your post is hold so i hope your are ok now! 😉
8:54 "What the hell? Why" "...make you want to die"
_Hundreds of jazzists grumble antagonistically in the distance_
Yeah. Cuz dey crazy
More like tens of jazzists, to be honest.
8bitmusictheory is a jazz musician and he says its terrible, that chord really speaks volume
8bit music theory teaching basically "music theory for dummys" through video games? count me in
BiggBossChanel that's why I subscribed
I'm not sure about the "for dummies" part of it since I'm completely lost due to having no background in music theory but I see where you're coming from
Well, yeah, it's easy to be lost.
But on that note, try reading the book 'music theory for dummies'.
Yes, that exists.
And yes, it's what you think it is.
That series of books really can get quite bizarre at times. XD
But, it does a good job of explaining things in a way that make sense.
It will at least explain the concept of keys, modes, chords, chord progressions and song structure. (I believe it mentions the circle of 5ths too, though I'm not entirely sure.)
In any event, it's just enough of the most basic basics to help you make sense of slightly more complex ideas like these.
@mozak plesa guess I'll die
@@yourfathersfather8751 i know im a year late, but this is so not entry level stuff, specially since the information goes by really quickly in most of his videos, dont get discouraged to learn more about theory
love the video, sad that there was no mention of Rivers in the Desert
EXACTLY
Its so underrated, by P5 standards
@@mrbrick8487 everyone loves it though, but yeah it's not as talked about compared to Last Surprise and Beneath the Mask
Boi here I go...
A RIVEEER IN A DRYYYYYY LAND
THE LAST ACE IN A LOST HAND
WHEN THE HOPE OF NEW BEGGININGS BURNS OUR FEET
NOW WE NEED IT A HEARTBEAT FOR A TIN MAN OASIS IN A SINGED LAND REMIND US WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, CREAAAATING NEW LIIIIIVE
CREATING RIVERS IN THE DESEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERT
@@Alex-rn3jv DUN DUN
DUN DUN
DUN DUN
DUN DUN
DAAAAA DUN
DUN DUN
DA DA
DUN DUN
DUUUU
I love the fact that the song Blooming Villain is practically fighting itself with it's increasing and decreasing tones. Also, I love how Beneath the Mask makes you feel like dirt with its theme at first but your own knowledge that you are really hiding your "true persona" from the world makes the melancholy almost comforting in a way. That's the genius behind Persona's themes that are different from any other game I've ever played it's the fact that it combines mood theming with your mentality based off the situation to effectively get you in a mood.
TL;DW
Shoji Meguro is a genius
I agree
I knew that
I had to keep rewinding because I kept getting distracted by the music lol I love Persona 5's soundtrack, it's so ingenious.
Who does all the transcription work for you channel? It's spot on and very well written. I may hire them if I need someone to transcribe something in the future.
Piano Man I agree 100% it's always spot on
Piano Man I'm pretty sure he does it himself.
Thanks! I do all the transcribing myself, if you wanna get in touch for commissions DMing me on twitter is probably the best way to reach me
Honestly, I just love watching the transcriptions with the music. Would be great if you'd add more of that, or maybe a video "transcriptions + music". Often I watch these sections over and over.
Btw, I can also do good transcriptions for $$ if 8-bit doesn't have time :P
It's really bizarre how badly done most transcriptions / arrangements are.
Do you release your transcriptions to Patreon supporters? That's something I would definitely get behind.
8:57 this may be my favorite part
"What the hell? Why"
Shoji Meguro is the best game composer of all time. Every game from Persona and Shin Megami Tensei spin offs have FANTASTIC OST. I recommend you listen to all the Megaten game OST's
Nobuo Uematsu
Thats a bold statement I don't its possible to name the "best" game composer with how the music requirements shifts depending on game style.
@@kennyr1161 and shoji legit I always fugues the requirements perfectly 😤 don’t try to sound like a smartass
This was actually your best video yet. You super clearly explained not just the theory and the chords, but you also made it extremely clear why things are perceived the way that they are when listening to it. Things I didn't know before but I think is super cool. Well done!
"Every Good Boy Does Fine" was always my mnemonic.
Wow this is one of the best videos I've seen on the actual uses of mode mixture other than "It sounds cool."
I've always wondered do you transcribe all these sheets by ear or do you find resources online?
Thanks for the great content!!!
He has uploaded a video of him transcribing a thingy
hearing the music of persona 5 makes me miss persona 5. the game is so long and is very much a life simulator as it is an rpg it draws you in. but im not playing another 116 hours of the same game
Persona 5 Royal has you covered, my friend
@@L-Puffin Yeah now you have to play 150 hrs, but a game this good I'd do it all again.
@@joeschmo6927 Yes that is what I meant
Atlus just need to port p3 and p4's upgraded versions to ps5
I'm definitely looking forward to the "Tutorial level" music theory videos, I feel like I really should study music theory, but I never knew where to even begin, the videos linked in the description already helped a lot!
Michirin9801 Start by learning all of the intervals, how to spell them, their relative stabilities, and why there are differences in perceived stability. Go from there to learning how to build the major scale. In tonal music, these tones have a hierarchy of stability where the tonic (first scale degree) is the most stable, then dominant (fifth), mediant (third), submediant (sixth), supertonic (second), subdominant (fourth), leading tone/subdominant (seventh). Then build diatonic chords from that scale. Learn why the chord built from the fifth scale degree (dominant) leads so strongly to the chord built from the first scale degree (tonic). Subdominant chords usually precede dominant ones. If you get that, the secondary dominant concept isn't that difficult. If you understand what it means to build chords in thirds and how to count to 13, it's not that much of a stretch to understand extensions and alterations. If understand the major scale, learning how to get the 7 basic modes isn't that difficult. The more you learn about music theory, the easier it is to learn the next thing.
If it sounds difficult, don't worry. It really isn't. There's just a lot of information to learn.
Thanks! I should take some notes...
I'm so far ahead of my music theory class because of these videos...thank you so much!
This tbh.
The long awaited P5 video
I use "Awakening" as my morning alarm. Gets me right up and now hearing it in the game gives me even more of that shock it strives for.
Your voice sounds slightly like Kermit the Frog, and it's amazing
After being stalked nonstop by lusty fans, Kermit used a voice masker to lower his pitch and hide his true identity while pursuing his true passion: not comedy, but music theory and analysis
now I can't unhear it
I can't unhear how Canadian he is
I was scrolling and came across this now I can’t take him seriously
This is probably your most theoretically interesting video yet. I finally understand what mode mixture is all about now. Please incorporate the same kind of analyses in other videos, it's enlightening!
hey you did that thing I suggested where you played the chords on piano
Yeah dude, thanks for the tip! It makes it so much clearer
Yeah the visuals of sliding the scales back and forth were WONDERFULLY useful in helping me grasp the progression of chords, I agree ^^
"It's something more akin to a genuine smile from a genuinely evil person"
Damn dude, what a line
I don't understand what this man is talking to me, but very cool.
Mode Mixture? Huh, I find it weird how so many terms in music theory are so different in different languages. It's hard to look up any information about them in different languages, when the terms are so different. In some cases there isn't even an alternative for the term in a different language due to people treating certain topics subcategories of others and thus don't label them as their own thing.
learn the culture, the language and how they use those term to write their songs and look the difference to your native language and songs.
i pronounce your username "erection" in my head
Zenytram Searom That's easier said than done, especially when search engines like google actively discourage searching for terms in other languages.
Use a different google. Surprisingly that has a big impact on the search results even when they are from places with the same language.
Compare your search results between Google.com, Google.co.uk and google.com.au for instance, and you might be surprised at the outcome...
The problem sometimes is that searching in some languages doesn't yield meaningful results anyway unless you do it properly.
for instance, if you want to search in japanese, you had better be using kanji, hiragana and katakana.
If you don't, your results will inevitably be non-native websites, since native sites are highly unlikely to ever use romaji.
While that obviously isn't an issue if you're searching in say, dutch, since the alphabet is the same, there's a bit of a trick to searching for things in multiple languages...
12:20
I think that piece is AMAZING
i wanna know what game it’s from
This is one of my favorite games so this video was an awesome breakdown of why the soundtrack slaps so hard. Thank you so much!
Props to Cameron on the cool Patreon request. One of the most consistent series in terms of cool music.
8:54 lol, the pictures of Ren, Joker, and Arsene! XD
Also, great video, taught me a lot about music! :)
Sofie Nguyen AKIRA!
(sorry, I couldn’t resist)
Man thank you for stressing the emotional impact of theory concepts, that dimension is way overlooked in music theory videos on youtube i think. The WHY should we use modal mixture or negative harmony or non-functional harmony and so on is perhaps the most important thing to discuss when explaining MUSIC theory, and you did a big service to the community for doing this.
Thanks as well for visual representations on the circle of fifths, that is SO intuitive and makes sense visually (the more distance on the circle the more dramatic the sound change will be).
I love how well put your videos are, transcriptions, audio examples, images from the game to keep us engaged, etc etc.
You are really good at explaining and producing videos, i wish you the best you're on a great track !
PS. Here's a channel that stresses the emotional impact as well when discussing music theory. Check out "Jazz Duets"
"might stain human comprehension" Giant Steps would like to speak with you
The awakening track always gives me chills, I get it now
i love your point about how mode mixture is an important and useful way to communicate a dynamic shift in "the situation", particularly from the perspective of a character in a story
Music theory joke:
If you're writing a song in the ionian mode and you want to change the mood a bit, what do you do?
You mixolydian!
Sigh....
Ok fine, that one wasn't bad.
I like revisiting these every once and a while. I've been in music school for a semester and a half for composition and these make more sense every time.
12:18 There is the masterpiece right there.
I know literally nothing about music, I’m just here to listen to P5 music and look smart while doing it
This is the most useful analysis for persona music as I searching on youtube, thank you
YES
IT'S NEELY
THIS IS THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE
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Asmodean Underscore He included Jacob too! What a way to start the weekend :D.
8 bit bass lessons! they can mix the intros too
signed M. B.
I further support this as a bassist-gamer and subscriber of both channels.
Asmodean Underscore Your petition has now been signed by one gamer and ludomusicology enthusiast.
I've just started playing with the idea of modal mixture recently and this video really helped lay it all out simply for me! Awesome as always, very informative, and I can't wait to go try some of it now with this knowledge :D
Wow, this was the most helpful guide on mode mixture I've seen so far.
Your channel is amazing! It's unbelievable to me, that you're able to transcribe complex chords with ease... Keep up your good work!
I know nothing of music theory, but these videos are so interesting to watch anyways. For me its almost magical how music works this way.
The first 3 minutes were a musical revelation for me.
Subscribed!
I never realized how good the bass is in "wake up get up get out there"
The final boss theme does this as well to an equally epic degree.
there are parts of the video where your excitement for the matter is showing. it's really subtle, but it gets me a little pumped too. your videos have really made me want to pursue music theory further!
I had a conversation with a guy I know, who does the lighting at Persona Live, not long before Persona 5 was released. And he spoke about Shoji Meguro doing the music, and comparing it to stuff from Persona 4. And he said he has fun with the beat being weird, to troll him with the speed of the lighting.
I binged most of the videos on your channel and I have to say, this is truly one of the best of them. Not just the structure and thoroughness of your explanations and analyses, but the superbly colorful way you've described them make this something I can't help but watch over and over again. Thank you so much for all the hard work you do!
I love how you describe ths, it's so well done.
If I'm having trouble following along? Dude, always. Music theory turns my brain to mush.
I'm thankful for your knowledge, granting me greater appreciation for the genius behind the music I enjoy.
Effing great video. Love getting some exploration of this soundtrack, I've been a little obsessed with it for a couple months.
This game has the best game soundtrack I've heard so far
Woah those are some cool tunes
I adore your videos, even though I can’t really comprehend how music is put together so brilliantly
This is such an amazing way of visualizing mode mixture, thank you!
Still my favorite video from this channel to date
I like the way you view music theory, it's really great
Thank your for that great video. I got into this dark/bright scales stuff because of Adam Neely and Jacob Collier and now you have this video about this theme with good examples. Thank you!
Great video! Thanks for this! I knew I was going to love it the moment I saw P5 but it was really useful!
Great video man. You finally made me understand this stuff! Great work man!
6:16 "Energetic rift. AKA an Eargasmn."
I have 1 question: how does Beneath the Mask sound so ambient, while it isn't written all that ambient? Or in general, why is this soundtrack so good and criminally underrated
Underrated by whom? P5 broke into the mainstream more than any game in the series, and the soundtrack is one of the most consistent points of praise.
I think you got me to finally understand the power of modal mixture, darkness and brightness is something I can work with!
This is pretty fantastic, I had heard this soundtrack but now I have once again a deeper appreciation of its style and method with this mode mixture doolally. Excellent stuff!
You know you're doing something right when i can't understand a single word but you still manage to make me entertained
My favorite 8-bit music theory video, by far
Words can't describe how much I love this video, it really hammered home not only the concept but also the situation in which to use said concept. So many channels simply explain what a technique is without suggesting WHY you would use it.
Love the format and the channel, Congrats on a year!
Fascinating stuff. I've always wanted to do this level of analysis in video game music, but you're already doing a good job!
What a useful way to understand this concept! And it gels so much with my metaphysical interests! Thank you!
idk music theory but you kept it interesting throughout the video! I'm amazed.
I love this video, it's so dense and so rewarding once you follow what he's talking about.
My boy, Adam Neely. 🙌🏼
In all seriousness, this is the best video I've seen on mode mixture; I love how you use concrete examples to explain the effects of borrowing different chords. Thank you!
This vid is reallly helpful in more understanding about modes and also a great way to explain mode mixture, thanks
This actually helped me so much cuz when I first saw both Adam neely and Jacob's vids I did not understand their application now I do
I already loved Persona 5.
Learning from this video has made me love it even more. Thanks for making this!
One of my favourite videos on youtube
Best explanation of modal interchange I've seen/read!
This might be my favorite video I've seen this summer!
FINALLY understand the purpose and effect of mode mixture. Much appreciated, thank you!
I don't have a clue what you're talking about, but I'm having fun listening to you talk about it while playing some really good god damn music.
Hey man, just wanna say I think your work is great and this is becoming one of my favorite videos to go back to and reference for myself as well as my students. Your examples are very clear with nice visual representation, and I really like how you illustrate that it's about the "movement" as opposed to any key or mode in particular being bright or dark. In my mind, a key first introduced is the neutral slate, and the direction that goes in is what gives it the color and flair of how it grows and transforms throughout a piece.
Thanks for what you do, and please keep up the amazing work.
Using words I've never heard and putting Google to work installing knowledge into my brain. I love songs in minor keys but I had no idea they could be enriched so much. Thank you very much for this, I absolutely love it
This is so cool! I haven't thought about theory in ages, and certainly not this advanced. Thanks so much for the breakdown, I've been listening to this soundtrack an awful lot, so this is a basic application of the theory you've stated.
Neat! I just beat persona 5 and learned the basics of the circle of fifths for writing simple songs on guitar. Can’t wait to try this out and fail miserably. Thanks mang!
So good. Your channel is so awesome, please never stop releasing content. Easily my favorite channel on YT
ive never played a single persona game and blooming villain is already my favorite song in the whole series, the beginning sounds like it was taken straight outta doom and i love it
The amount of knowledge and passion needed to do just ONE of these videos is beyond Admirable!
These videos are very entertaining and artistic, especially for someone so musically uneducated as I am(as far as the structure thereof)
Awesome video. Keep it advanced!
I'm only halfway through, but this was already the most informative video I have ever seen.
I didn't even know about your channel a month ago and now you're my favorite music channel. Well done on everything you have made so far!
When you don't understand any music theory but enjoyed it anyways cuz persona 5.
Can we get an analysis on "River on the Desert"? I'm curious about how that music was constructed to give that overwhelming feeling at the start and how it goes to a jazzy feel while retaining all the tension.
It feels like being a blade of grass pushing against a shoe, you feel so low in that moment so you take that lowness you feel and turn it into richeous anger remembering where you came from and what your fighting for, the minor chord is the phantoms in a way pushing against the darker aspects of their society while also being a ray of hope within an overlooked fraction of society.
I love mode mixture discussions. A thank-a-you very-much-ah.