i believe my camaro has the flowmaster and that one sounds very similar. i like the flowmaster better. But either way it’s still awesome. as long as it’s loud when you rev it 👍🏻
Wow. Still don't understand how people can just let 5 year old sports cars sit. Even if they pass away or get sick and their family left it. It's not really a project at 5 years old, drive it or sell it. Glad you're fixing it up now though
Flowmasters sound great especially on chevy motors, but you will get better performance from the Magnaflow's open design. The Flowmaster will also resonate through the interior a lot more which may have been cool when we where 17 but it's pretty fkn annoying now.
The rattle noise just sounds like the exhaust pipe moving. I had a car that developed a similar tone after I removed a hangar. It eventually devolved into a leak, that's when I got the tick tick tick and a generally more raspy tone. Great video
My car is a 350 with the Flowmaster on it and it sounds just like your 305. The rattling is some sort of inherit sound produced by the muffler mine makes the same rattling.
I have a magnaflow on my Roc for over 35 yeats. 3 inch pipe with both pipes exit on left side. Love the mellow sounds. Sounds like a 60s vette when going through gears.
Thank you so much for this video. It was exactly what I have been looking for. Jut for reference and anyone else that is looking at this the actual muffler in the flowmaster american thunder exhaust kit that he is using is the 80s series designed for the 3rd gen Camaros.
thanks for the info I was wondering what it was called, That's awesome it was designed for 3rd gens. on my car I have this same muffler I posted some sound clips it sounds just like it
Hey man, that rattle is likely a heat shield that the exhaust is rubbing against. If you have a leak, it's really hard to hear on the videos. The rattle (to me) seems like one of those rabbits that might drive you crazy, and trust me I UNDERSTAND THIS with these cars. I've owned a 3rd gen since the late 90s, both 85 IROCs. Love your stuff though, really enjoy watching someone else struggle through the same things i do :)
Nice video! Great breakdown and explanation! Thank you for posting this. I do LOVE Flowmaster but MF is really growing on me. Wife and I have ‘92 Firebird with same motor you have.
Thank you for the exhaust comparison the way you did it. It helped me choose which exhaust I want. I was having a hard time deciding because Camaros will never sound as aggressive as a Mustang does, so this made my choice easier.
Well done great video. Flowmaster are more for 17 kids who have no clue what a great, deep bass exhaust sound like. Sounds great, probably can even feel the ground vibrate from the little 305.
The best sounding factory cat back replacement was the edelbrock that was on my 87 iroc l98 ....sadly I patched rust holes 3-4 times before it got too bad to mess with I then ordered a hot rod 2.5" mandrel bent pipe kit for diy dual exhaust and put true dual 2.5 pipes hung tight to rocker rails exiting in front of rear tires angled out just shy of body.....no cats hooker headers it sounded great with lt4 hot cam and just loud enough easing around to set off car alarms when pulling into parking lots and loud but not obnoxiously loud when mashing pedal. Building a high end superram/fast xfi 383 afr head engine w/supercharger & going to build new replica of old exhaust but with stainless pipe,Doug's 1-3/4" headers & cherry bomb vortex mufflers(for power gain & whatever it sounds like is what it is)
Idk of it's a exhaust leak I think you are right the second time I think it's a hanger or something rattling . But a spray bottle and some soapy water you will know if you got a leak
Cool, have you seen the magnaflow xmod system yet ? If not you should check out my buddy racer X vid on them, it is the latest system from MF and is really cool because you can change the sound of it with the parts that they give you and are interchangeable as a system. They are a little expensive at 3k, but they are basically three systems in one and go from mellow to medium and then radical and are awesome. I considered some for my Challenger SRT8, but I already had a good system on it that I just did a couple of years ago and didn't want to replace them. They sound awesome, they're SLP loudmouths and are the best bang for the buck on the market at 7 bill's
Its not an exhaust leak, its the pipe rattling because its not true dual. Unfortunately with the y-pipe its too much sound and it tends to rattle. The only fix for that is true dual. > : )
Ive had both on third gens. Everyone runs flows and magnas are too quiet for me. When i had my 305 tbi i ran the Borla 14888 and ive ran Borla 14464 as well. Those catbacks seem to sound the best for these cars other than SLP or GMMG. Also headers are a must. HKR 2460 are a great option. Currently looking at some catbacks as ive been cammed/straight piped lt1 in a 92 RS and im getting too old for that anymore.
Both sound very similar. If you have the extra cash, buy Borlas. They're more than double the price, but Borla sounds much better than both. Magnaflows are quieter, but Flowmasters sound very loud, deep, and throaty.
Did you have to put on a custom exhaust hanger on the drivers side for the Magnaflow? On the stock setup it's on the tail pipe but since your tailpipe is shorter now....
When you did a cat delete, did you have to retune the engine or anything?? Because ik the cat back alone won’t make it as loud as I want, and I really want to delete the cat but not have any issues
I didn't do a retune after taking the cat off. But that's not saying I shouldn't have. I'm no expert in exhaust. Car ran fine, but maybe it could run better if I tuned it?
@@beardedreviews ohh okay!! I’m hearing a lot of mixed things about the retune, some say I don’t have to retune and others say the engine will start to run bad, but if ur engine runs fine, a retune is probably optional!
@@numbers7889 Yea I would say it's totally optional. Also I went with like 3 inch exhaust, when I should have gone with 2.5 inch to keep proper back pressure. I think with 2.5 instead of 3" exhaust you would be even better than my setup. I am going to change mine to 2.5 when I do my 5.7 TPI swap
@@beardedreviews I also have a 3 inch exhaust in it, although the tailpipes are 2.5, so maybe the back pressure won’t change as much if it was 3 inches all the way, keep us updated on that swap! I’m very interested in doing one as well, maybe even an LS swap if I have the money and guts to do it
Man they really r . I seen some h.o. Ones that were pretty close to some 350s out there . Only reasoning that makes me feel like ayy they sum fun atleast lol
Flowmaster does not flow nearly as good as the magnaflow. It is a tin can with air baffles while as you said the magnaflow is straight through. Much better flow with the magna
i believe my camaro has the flowmaster and that one sounds very similar. i like the flowmaster better. But either way it’s still awesome. as long as it’s loud when you rev it 👍🏻
Magnaflow has a quality sound 👌
Got a barn find 1985 with a 305 in it. Has sat since 1990. Been a journey all summer to get it running. You have been a great resource. Keep it up!
Wow. Still don't understand how people can just let 5 year old sports cars sit. Even if they pass away or get sick and their family left it. It's not really a project at 5 years old, drive it or sell it. Glad you're fixing it up now though
This is the exact video I’ve been looking for. Been watching you since I got my iroc z like 8 months ago, love ur videos
Got dynomax super turbos on my 87 Firechicken. I checked out all the different tones and that was my all time favorite.
Just picked my 3rd gen project, hoping you keep these videos coming!
Yea I have more coming! They slow down in the winter but I get a few done when I heat up the garage and get some work done
Flowmasters sound great especially on chevy motors, but you will get better performance from the Magnaflow's open design. The Flowmaster will also resonate through the interior a lot more which may have been cool when we where 17 but it's pretty fkn annoying now.
Nope! The flow master will out perform a glass pack all day
Thanks man, I have a 3rd Gen Camaro myself, and needed confirmation that mag aglow is the way to go.
The rattle noise just sounds like the exhaust pipe moving. I had a car that developed a similar tone after I removed a hangar. It eventually devolved into a leak, that's when I got the tick tick tick and a generally more raspy tone.
Great video
My car is a 350 with the Flowmaster on it and it sounds just like your 305. The rattling is some sort of inherit sound produced by the muffler mine makes the same rattling.
Love the video and the journey love 3rd gens keep it going💪
I have a magnaflow on my Roc for over 35 yeats. 3 inch pipe with both pipes exit on left side. Love the mellow sounds. Sounds like a 60s vette when going through gears.
Thank you so much for this video. It was exactly what I have been looking for. Jut for reference and anyone else that is looking at this the actual muffler in the flowmaster american thunder exhaust kit that he is using is the 80s series designed for the 3rd gen Camaros.
thanks for the info I was wondering what it was called, That's awesome it was designed for 3rd gens. on my car I have this same muffler I posted some sound clips it sounds just like it
Nice upgrade! Sounds great!
Love the vids. I got flowmaster on my third gen, but plan to switch to magnaflow eventually. Also, Boiler up yo!!
I'm a flowmaster dude but your Camaro with the Magnaflow sounds good. Nice low pulsing tone when you get on it. I like it.
thanks man!!
good video bro I also have a third gen and installed the magnflow last year
I love the 3rd gen Camaros but running exhaust on them are a pain in the ass
Hey man, that rattle is likely a heat shield that the exhaust is rubbing against. If you have a leak, it's really hard to hear on the videos. The rattle (to me) seems like one of those rabbits that might drive you crazy, and trust me I UNDERSTAND THIS with these cars. I've owned a 3rd gen since the late 90s, both 85 IROCs. Love your stuff though, really enjoy watching someone else struggle through the same things i do :)
Nice video! Great breakdown and explanation! Thank you for posting this. I do LOVE Flowmaster but MF is really growing on me. Wife and I have ‘92 Firebird with same motor you have.
Yea I like the magnaflow because it's a little less aggressive but still sounds great! Thanks for watching man!
@@beardedreviews I will say MF does sound really good with the old Ford FEs and H/X pipe set up.
@@beardedreviews is there much drone on the highway?
Love your Camaro videos
thanks so much man! I'm doing a video summarizing all the mods here soon on the channel
Love your videos bro
My 1986 IROC Z28. It has a 350 carbureted block & no cat. 3 inch from y pipe back into a flowmaster 40 series exhaust.
Thank you for the exhaust comparison the way you did it. It helped me choose which exhaust I want. I was having a hard time deciding because Camaros will never sound as aggressive as a Mustang does, so this made my choice easier.
no problem at all! Glad I could be of help
I have true duals with no cats and true dual flowmasters but it’s super loud and want a mellow tone.
Beautiful iroc z ❤️ I appreciate the fact that you have the 305 still in the car, I miss my 86 iroc z
Well done great video. Flowmaster are more for 17 kids who have no clue what a great, deep bass exhaust sound like. Sounds great, probably can even feel the ground vibrate from the little 305.
GOOD VIDEO.definetely im going for the flowmaster fo my Rs Maro
The best sounding factory cat back replacement was the edelbrock that was on my 87 iroc l98 ....sadly I patched rust holes 3-4 times before it got too bad to mess with I then ordered a hot rod 2.5" mandrel bent pipe kit for diy dual exhaust and put true dual 2.5 pipes hung tight to rocker rails exiting in front of rear tires angled out just shy of body.....no cats hooker headers it sounded great with lt4 hot cam and just loud enough easing around to set off car alarms when pulling into parking lots and loud but not obnoxiously loud when mashing pedal.
Building a high end superram/fast xfi 383 afr head engine w/supercharger & going to build new replica of old exhaust but with stainless pipe,Doug's 1-3/4" headers & cherry bomb vortex mufflers(for power gain & whatever it sounds like is what it is)
I want to get a cutout valve for mine, That way when I'm driving around at night i can be somewhat quiet. Otherwise, straight piped loud.
I'm that A hole. 92 rs 305 tbi with a z28 body kit and t-top. I have flowmaster 80s. cold starts make me feel bed for them sleeping. I work 3rd too.
Idk of it's a exhaust leak I think you are right the second time I think it's a hanger or something rattling . But a spray bottle and some soapy water you will know if you got a leak
Nice review man that car looks bad ass!are those 18in wheels? What size tires you have I love it
Cool, have you seen the magnaflow xmod system yet ?
If not you should check out my buddy racer X vid on them, it is the latest system from MF and is really cool because you can change the sound of it with the parts that they give you and are interchangeable as a system. They are a little expensive at 3k, but they are basically three systems in one and go from mellow to medium and then radical and are awesome. I considered some for my Challenger SRT8, but I already had a good system on it that I just did a couple of years ago and didn't want to replace them. They sound awesome, they're SLP loudmouths and are the best bang for the buck on the market at 7 bill's
Boiler Up!
Nice, Sounds Good
Hey thanks! I believe I've seen your guys content as well. You guys make some cool camaro stuff!
@@beardedreviews Thanks. Yes we specialize in 67- newer Camaro & Firebirds . 3 rd & 4th Gen products are what we sell most of recently .
@@beardedreviews Appreciate that. You have a Good looking car 👍🏻
I actually love the flowmaster its the one i wanna get for my 92 but i also wanted to try some popular exhaust called black widow
I havent heard of that one yet. I'll look into it!
I was going to say the rattle is the Gas tank heat shield.
I have a magnaflow exhaust on my 1991z28 and they sound sooo much better then the flow master exhaust I had on it
Chambered mufflers sound better than packed mufflers on small block chevys imo. But its YOUR car, you need to be happy with the way it sounds
Its not an exhaust leak, its the pipe rattling because its not true dual. Unfortunately with the y-pipe its too much sound and it tends to rattle. The only fix for that is true dual. > : )
Yea I'm thinking about going true dual when I do my 350 TPI swap
Try Borla Atak mufflers
Great comparison video. MF sounds a little more sophisticated to my ears, perhaps closer to a OEM tone.
Yea I personally like the magnaflow alot better
Magnaflow much nicer, and probably what I will do when I take my stock off my 88 Iroc.
RAVIN PIPES RULE....
I went 3inch on my modified 305 tbi n it killed my low power so bad I wish I could go back to my factory y pipe n raptor muffler
Magnaflow for the win! Flow master is good if your number one priority is loud.
Yea flow master is just plain loud. I like the magnaflow tone so much better
Ive had both on third gens. Everyone runs flows and magnas are too quiet for me. When i had my 305 tbi i ran the Borla 14888 and ive ran Borla 14464 as well. Those catbacks seem to sound the best for these cars other than SLP or GMMG. Also headers are a must. HKR 2460 are a great option. Currently looking at some catbacks as ive been cammed/straight piped lt1 in a 92 RS and im getting too old for that anymore.
i havent heard one on one of these, but jones or aero turbine sound amazing on every other v8 ive heard em on.
@@WedgeLife update, i ended up putting hooker aerochamber catback on. I have videos of it on my channel. Sounds great
The flowmaster sounds better but the magna flow has a more subdued tone and seams a little quieter.
I definitely prefer the flowmaster sound
what size are the wheels??
Hello, thanks for video. Are those stock wheels or after market larger wheels but same Iroc design?
those are 18 replica IROC wheels. Glad you enjoyed the video. In my playlist I have a whole video about the wheels
@@beardedreviews Thanks! Just watched it. Buying those, prices have changed but stock look I want. Keep up vids!
Both sound very similar. If you have the extra cash, buy Borlas. They're more than double the price, but Borla sounds much better than both. Magnaflows are quieter, but Flowmasters sound very loud, deep, and throaty.
Did you have to put on a custom exhaust hanger on the drivers side for the Magnaflow? On the stock setup it's on the tail pipe but since your tailpipe is shorter now....
yea we extended it a little bit. wasn't super hard to do
Slp loudmouth 1 goin on mine.....I'm THAT GUY lol
Curious where did you get your rims? is it a direct bolt on?
yea i got them on amazon i believe. I have a video in the third gen camaro playlist on this channel all about the wheels
What color is this car
Mine is an '85 base model also with no catalytic converter... if I buy the same kit, it should still fit? Does anyone know for sure?
The flowmaster kit bypasses the cats completely. Magnaflow I used are just the actual mufflers
@beardedreviews Awesome! Thanks man! Love the videos 👍
You mentioned it doesn’t have cat? Just straight pipe to the muffler?
Yea just straight pipe. No cat or anything in between
@@beardedreviews awesome! Thanks bro
When you did a cat delete, did you have to retune the engine or anything?? Because ik the cat back alone won’t make it as loud as I want, and I really want to delete the cat but not have any issues
I didn't do a retune after taking the cat off. But that's not saying I shouldn't have. I'm no expert in exhaust. Car ran fine, but maybe it could run better if I tuned it?
@@beardedreviews ohh okay!! I’m hearing a lot of mixed things about the retune, some say I don’t have to retune and others say the engine will start to run bad, but if ur engine runs fine, a retune is probably optional!
@@numbers7889 Yea I would say it's totally optional. Also I went with like 3 inch exhaust, when I should have gone with 2.5 inch to keep proper back pressure. I think with 2.5 instead of 3" exhaust you would be even better than my setup. I am going to change mine to 2.5 when I do my 5.7 TPI swap
@@beardedreviews I also have a 3 inch exhaust in it, although the tailpipes are 2.5, so maybe the back pressure won’t change as much if it was 3 inches all the way, keep us updated on that swap! I’m very interested in doing one as well, maybe even an LS swap if I have the money and guts to do it
I like flow master
Bro @ bearded reviews . How did you feel about your 305 . Honest opinion . Because I’m debating on my 86 .
305 is pretty damn slow. But I am not out racing my camaro. I just cruise it around
Man they really r . I seen some h.o. Ones that were pretty close to some 350s out there . Only reasoning that makes me feel like ayy they sum fun atleast lol
Nice ! Did it lose any bottom end torque with the 3 inch mid pipe ?
didn't feel like it did. But who knows
@@beardedreviews Thank you for the reply back
I just wanna know what the muffler is. Anyone know?
Which muffler? Flowmaster was the "american thunder" series I believe. Magnaflow is all the same chambered design in that category
Flowmaster is more throaty...more Roar
Flowmaster
flow sounds better
The Magnaflow sounds better.
Flowmasters sound better, but it’s close.
Flowmaster does not flow nearly as good as the magnaflow. It is a tin can with air baffles while as you said the magnaflow is straight through. Much better flow with the magna
Flowmaster sounds beefier
@@billbowers268 it's almost like, that's just your opinion or something.
@@DerrickRG well we all have opinions doesn't mean you have to do it .
The magnaflow sounds more quality, the flowmaster sounds more like it's just a straight pipe
To me the flowmaster sounds better.
Everybody has their own taste
Magnaflow > Flowmaster
Maybe the Magnaflow makes 2more HP... So what, the Flowmaster sounds better.
Ya its not even close honestly, i guess it being quiet has its benefits tho haha
Flowmaster sounds better....
Change the freaking starter. I Hate those old starters
Nobody cares what you think.
Replace with what kind?
My magna flow sounds a lot better than that.
Which one is the flow master style magnaflow?