Building A '92 Camaro For Both Optimal Fuel Economy And Power - HorsePower S12, E14

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • HorsePower kicks off its most extraordinary project ever. It's a '92 Camaro they will build up for optimal fuel economy AND horsepower. Phase one features a series of parts and tips they'll use to show you how to save energy while also enjoying the fun of a hot rod. Plus, they'll stay within a 500-dollar budget!
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    PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
    Accel: Cap and rotor kit, external HEI coil, ignition module, and spark plug wire set.
    CFM Technologies: Throttle body spacer for most 86-92 GM.
    Hypertech: Thermo-Master computer chip, Thermostat, Cool fan switch.
    K&N: K&N oil filter.
    Loctite: Loctite thread locking compound.
    Matco Tools: Matco vacuum testing guage.
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Super-Start Battery.
    Phoenix Systems LLC: Strip Dip Brake Fluid Test Strip.
    Roush Performance: This kit comes with a 2.3L TVS supercharger with black finish, upper and lower intake manifolds, an intercooler, a low temp radiator, a cold air intake system, a dual 60mm electronic throttle body, a unique fuel rail with 52 lb/hr fuel injectors.
    Spectre Performance: Carb hat, one standard, one low profile, 2- 90 degree, 2- 60 degree, 2- 45 degree, 2-straight, couplers, foam inserts, Quik-Fab universal kit.
    Taylor Cable Products: Battery relocation kit supplied with wires.

Комментарии • 692

  • @SSDracerSD
    @SSDracerSD 4 года назад +227

    Saw a 3rd gen and I just had to click. Goes good with my morning coffee.

  • @DJ80s
    @DJ80s 4 года назад +1

    My 1991 Trans Am got 25 miles per gallon every time I took it on a long road trip across the country. It's basically the same car as this, only with different bumpers and ground effects + badging. But mine is Tuned Port Injection. This Camaro looks to be Throttle Body Injection.
    My Trans Am was able to run 110 MPH @ 3k RPM going through Mexico lol. (Rear gears are 2.73)

  • @jacquescrusan9500
    @jacquescrusan9500 4 года назад +1

    Interesting to watch... I've got myself an '89 Iroc with the 305 TPI and about 11,000 total miles. I've been wondering what relatively basic things I can do to it to improve fuel economy and make the engine more efficient.
    I ended up going with Hawk's Performance parts for most of my pieces. Good PROM chip, new Accel ignition components, Hooker shorty headers leading into a 3" system, Aluminum driveshaft, some K&N filters, 1.6 ratio roller rockers, a 3-port catch can, good brake pads, stainless braided lines, and some nice 17 inch aftermarket IROC-style rims with Goodyear rubber on them. Works great, and gets really good mileage both combined and on the highway (19/27, respectively). Stops pretty nice too.

    • @goratgo1970
      @goratgo1970 4 года назад

      Doing same with recently bought '91 RS Conv. Ended up w. full front-rear Hochkis for $300. And swapped rear with G-92 disc axle so far.

  • @danhambrick6331
    @danhambrick6331 4 года назад +9

    These are classics.I wonder how old Joe is doing now days?

  • @chuck_machine
    @chuck_machine 4 года назад +1

    @2:05 - "Risk a Reckless Driving ticket" If only such a thing existed in California...

  • @davenelson1571
    @davenelson1571 4 года назад +1

    Seems like they didn't consult Amish Mike before removing the sound system. Ahh maybe they'll drill some holes in the muffler so he has something to listen too.

  • @zoneracer
    @zoneracer 4 года назад

    Wait tire psi in the door jam. Max tire is on the tire all tires have diffrent max psi.

  • @sk0.0t3r
    @sk0.0t3r 4 года назад +49

    Hmm not sure I would run my power line underneath the car, I also wouldn't put my intake in a place where water from a small puddle or rain would blow right in.

    • @idronecharpifpv89
      @idronecharpifpv89 3 года назад +3

      I guess they do not drive the car when it rains!

  • @SolamenteVees
    @SolamenteVees 4 года назад +88

    The recommended tire pressure is actually found on the driver’s door jamb. The psi on the sidewall is the tire manufacturer’s maximum psi... 1:20

    • @markcollard9326
      @markcollard9326 Год назад +1

      Agreed, also 5 quarts for that oil pan is too much.

  • @jeremyparsons2944
    @jeremyparsons2944 4 года назад +120

    replacing the factory "T" style exhaust merge with a proper y pipe would add way more power and economy than all the fiddling they did in this episode

    • @stickytarmacs
      @stickytarmacs 4 года назад +1

      😱😱ruclips.net/video/mcZzYkCwD2Q/видео.html

    • @jeeshuamessengerful
      @jeeshuamessengerful 4 года назад +2

      I agree completely! That was my thought when I watched it!

    • @124marsh
      @124marsh 4 года назад +8

      They need a exhaust sponsor

    • @goratgo1970
      @goratgo1970 4 года назад

      True That-I have same car, except a convertible even heavier. Horrendous stock exhaust HAS to get replaced w. either dedicated RH full dual like my 1LE had back then, or the recent dual down the center header kits include channeled trans. X-member. Mine just as clean but with 300,000 mi. Woman owned it since 1993. Took great care of it.

    • @rstuff1605
      @rstuff1605 4 года назад

      Funny, i have a factiry exhaust that trickles down a quarter inch at a time from a 1 5/8 primary straight into a 4-1 huge cat like a huge tea from cookout and
      Stems down from 4 inches all the way down to 2 out the muffler

  • @trackerrrr
    @trackerrrr 4 года назад +41

    Guys spend almost $200 on Accel parts and then try and save $20 on a universal wire kit?

    • @Itsme-mx5tl
      @Itsme-mx5tl 4 года назад +4

      They have sponsors to pay for everything

  • @thebigugly2006
    @thebigugly2006 4 года назад +224

    11:17. Remove the subwoofer? On a '92 Camaro, what's more important? More power? Or awesome sound system to listen to your Van Halen cassettes?

    • @basshead.
      @basshead. 4 года назад +25

      Might as well jump.

    • @stickytarmacs
      @stickytarmacs 4 года назад +1

      😱😱ruclips.net/video/mcZzYkCwD2Q/видео.html

    • @toooldtochange6098
      @toooldtochange6098 4 года назад +8

      .. Iron Maiden... with my Mullet

    • @stickytarmacs
      @stickytarmacs 4 года назад +3

      j d pollard Led Zeppelin 😎

    • @stickytarmacs
      @stickytarmacs 4 года назад

      Dirty Harry yeah I agree turkeys are better than turtles!!

  • @korn111685
    @korn111685 4 года назад +228

    In today’s episode we’ll show you how to spend a fortune for minimal gains in HP and MPG on this sweet 90s smog car!

    • @larryw5429
      @larryw5429 4 года назад +3

      lol

    • @franklast7955
      @franklast7955 4 года назад +19

      Get rid of that smog equipment

    • @gregbrightwell662
      @gregbrightwell662 4 года назад +12

      Not really.
      That's a tune up.

    • @austindoud273
      @austindoud273 4 года назад +16

      Could have tossed a 4.8 or 5.3 w/a cam and been way better off

    • @brandondeel3567
      @brandondeel3567 4 года назад +6

      @@gregbrightwell662 that's some expensive tune up material tho. You're not wrong, most of this was standard "tune up" procedures but they put the best of everything to achieve that goal.

  • @joemama9005
    @joemama9005 4 года назад +70

    Proper tire inflation is not on the tire, it's on the door or door jam!

    • @SmartMass
      @SmartMass 4 года назад +12

      Seriously, WTF was that? Talk about spreading bad, dangerous information!

    • @LazyBoyZR1
      @LazyBoyZR1 4 года назад +7

      Heard his say read the tire side wall and not the mfg recommended numbers on the door jam/door. Immediately headed to the comments... found this one and thumbs up.

    • @samholcombe3129
      @samholcombe3129 4 года назад +15

      That only works if it still has the oem tire type

    • @joemama9005
      @joemama9005 4 года назад +2

      Who told you that one? The 17 year old at walmart? Tons of R&D go into proper inflation from the manufacturers. How do I know? ASE Master Certified with 30 years of experience

    • @samholcombe3129
      @samholcombe3129 4 года назад

      Wes Haraldsen I’m talking about a car with aftermarket wheels and tires dude, like if you go from 16”to 20”

  • @OldManBadly
    @OldManBadly 4 года назад +70

    It's fun to watch these 12-15 year old episodes, mostly to know how far and how fast technology has come. 22mpg and 150hp just won't cut it these days.

    • @stickytarmacs
      @stickytarmacs 4 года назад

      😱😱ruclips.net/video/mcZzYkCwD2Q/видео.html

    • @jhlancaster3
      @jhlancaster3 4 года назад +5

      you mean fun to watch these nearly 30 year old cars.... this episode was posted 9/12/20... It's in HD no less.

    • @OldManBadly
      @OldManBadly 4 года назад +16

      @@jhlancaster3 the episode is from 2008.

    • @artmallory970
      @artmallory970 4 года назад +4

      @@OldManBadly So you're saying you want 23mpg & 151hp?
      I jest

    • @OldManBadly
      @OldManBadly 4 года назад

      @@artmallory970 maybe 152.

  • @SGTJDerek
    @SGTJDerek 4 года назад +82

    Damn sure can't find a decent, unmolested 3rd Gen like that now.

    • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
      @trillrifaxegrindor4411 4 года назад +12

      they are out there but they arent the prices these idiots claim. that being said i know were i can pick up 2 91 formulas for $2000

    • @Kstang09
      @Kstang09 4 года назад +2

      @@trillrifaxegrindor4411 Got directions? haha.

    • @abelcatalan33
      @abelcatalan33 4 года назад +4

      I know one guy that have a 90 or 91 iroc z and they have the car since 1995 bone stock

    • @basshead.
      @basshead. 4 года назад +8

      @@trillrifaxegrindor4411 This episode is from 2008.

    • @theduke2398
      @theduke2398 4 года назад

      I know where you can in ky and Tennessee

  • @conanthedestroyer7123
    @conanthedestroyer7123 3 года назад +16

    For the Air intake, recommend keeping the intake filter high so when you drive through water puddles when it is raining, you wont suck up water into your engine, heck ram air is nice, but gotta resolve the rain issue there too.

  • @clevelandmaker386
    @clevelandmaker386 4 года назад +34

    first of all...
    HOW IN THE HELL DID THEY FIND A LOW MILEAGE 92 CAMARO THAT WASNT RAGGED THE HELL OUT

  • @supramaniac502
    @supramaniac502 4 года назад +18

    "Check tire pressure. Properly inflated tires will give you the best mileage."
    Inflates tires to near max pressure stated on the sidewall of the tire instead of GM rating for that size tire on that vehicle. IOW, improperly, OVERLY inflated.
    Also, could have converted to TPI with secondhand, EBay parts on a budget and gotten the mileage and power increases they got for the money with all the gimmicky stuff they did that basically amounted to normal maintenance.... No reason to use all those high dollar fluids on a sub 150 hp cruiser. A drag car that you are trying to eke every last bit of power out of it, sure, but not this.

    • @stevenplaskett7728
      @stevenplaskett7728 4 года назад

      EXACTLY!! How stupid are these HOT ROD guys????

    • @seanbailey8545
      @seanbailey8545 4 года назад +1

      To be fair the psi on the door card would have been for the OEM tyres and wheels. Assuming those tyres are probably not made anymore...I'd check the tyres over the door card.

    • @tvelis513
      @tvelis513 4 года назад

      You nailed it!

    • @davidbuddendorf991
      @davidbuddendorf991 4 года назад +1

      If there the same size tire that originally came with the car which will tell you on the door card, always go with the tire pressure on the door card! You should also check tires are wearing evenly.

    • @Mattvardaman
      @Mattvardaman 4 года назад +1

      Absolutely, the pressure number on the tire is the Max pressure rating, nothing more. It’s all about the weight of the vehicle on the tires. Use the door sticker. There are morons everywhere running around overinflated where I live. A recent customer brought me a car with the complaint of “weird tire wear.” The tires were smooth in the center.

  • @seventybuick
    @seventybuick 4 года назад +22

    The tire pressure recommendation is on the inside of the driver door jam. The pressure on the tire is the maximum tire pressure you can use without the tire failing and be safe.

  • @horsepower844182
    @horsepower844182 4 года назад +27

    What is going on with those HP/TQ curves at 13:40?

    • @samhianblackmoon
      @samhianblackmoon 4 года назад +6

      Exactly what I was thinking , def one of the most erratic curves I have seen

    • @4BillC
      @4BillC 4 года назад +12

      Probably the transmission slipping.

    • @JC4041
      @JC4041 4 года назад +4

      Looks like it was learning how to tie shoes...loop, swoop and pull lol

    • @fishinwithish
      @fishinwithish 4 года назад

      possibly converter locking up?

    • @stickytarmacs
      @stickytarmacs 4 года назад

      😱😱ruclips.net/video/mcZzYkCwD2Q/видео.html

  • @snerbjexter
    @snerbjexter 4 года назад +60

    Driver: States it feels like its getting a little more horsepower.
    Dyno: You gained 9 Hp of that shitty intake
    Me: SMH

    • @farcere
      @farcere 4 года назад +12

      Even worse, they put a chip in the ECU, put a throttle spacer and that intake, for 9 HP

    • @4BillC
      @4BillC 4 года назад +9

      9 hp from an intake is pretty good! The ECU chip was to help keep it cool and nothing to do with power gains.

    • @easydoz1
      @easydoz1 4 года назад +4

      @@4BillC No they absolutely put it in for HP gains.

    • @bruceh92
      @bruceh92 4 года назад +3

      @@farcere actually yeah what does the chip actually do for h.p.?

    • @Jacksonkellyfreak
      @Jacksonkellyfreak 4 года назад +3

      @@bruceh92 changes the fuel table. More fuel at rpm points, probably raised the rev limit too

  • @camaromustangmods3327
    @camaromustangmods3327 4 года назад +12

    Is this some kind of joke? For gods sakes find a 350TPI and start there.

    • @DerrickRG
      @DerrickRG 4 года назад +3

      Even a TPI 305 would suffice.

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin 4 года назад

      @Micheal Hunt but the 350ci crate engine cost significantly more so its Not really an ideal budget engine for this vehicle.

  • @bradnimbus4836
    @bradnimbus4836 4 года назад +30

    Did Joe Elmore seriously just say that Chevy's TBI wasn't bad for the time? Jesus, Mary and Joseph Stalin!

    • @Onewheelordeal
      @Onewheelordeal 4 года назад +13

      They also don't know the difference between recommended and max tire pressure so...

    • @basshead.
      @basshead. 4 года назад +5

      @@Onewheelordeal more pressure = better mpg

    • @zanechiles7302
      @zanechiles7302 4 года назад

      basshead more pressure=more wear=more money

    • @stickytarmacs
      @stickytarmacs 4 года назад

      😱😱ruclips.net/video/mcZzYkCwD2Q/видео.html

    • @projectcarz4798
      @projectcarz4798 4 года назад

      @@zanechiles7302 not neccesarily. To low or 2 high causes wear but if within parameters the differences would be negligible

  • @renc3920
    @renc3920 4 года назад +12

    Anyone else think that "cold air" piping looks alot like cheap flimsy dryer venting/hose?

    • @AutoYoung
      @AutoYoung 4 года назад

      Sad you don't know the company and the high quality stuff they manufacture. It's always gotta be SOMEBODY...

    • @unicornsteaks6769
      @unicornsteaks6769 4 года назад +2

      I thought the car basically had a cold air intake with that flexible hose to the air cleaner. They could just put in a K&N cleaner.

    • @AutoYoung
      @AutoYoung 4 года назад

      @@unicornsteaks6769
      You people seriously can't tell the difference between flexible hose and something that's welded? Whatever you use to see with needs to be cleaned ASAP!!! And point is to get a CUSTOM CAI for a fraction of the price of a completely fabricated one which is what they did. Not that hard...

    • @unicornsteaks6769
      @unicornsteaks6769 4 года назад +3

      @@AutoYoung I know the difference sparky. No need to get all up in your feels. It gained them nothing. The chip was worth a few HP. They spent 18 minutes wasting money. At this rate they'll have a really slow street car in a couple years. LOL. And, yes, I know it's an old show.

    • @renc3920
      @renc3920 4 года назад +1

      @@AutoYoung And sad SOMEBODY doesn't know the pipes behind MY dryer are flimsy tin stuff that looks very much like what they used there, not the near-reflective hose with the wire running through it. No need to get triggered big guy, maybe SOMEBODY'S dryer is different...

  • @James-WM
    @James-WM 4 года назад +8

    Definitely expected to see some exhaust modifications in there as well. Loses weight and helps the engine breathe better. Fun to see the old episodes anyway!

  • @wannabeetiger
    @wannabeetiger 4 года назад +7

    I'm so happy you are doing performance tuning on a 305. They do have potential unlike what many people think as they are a Chevy small block V8 and they can make great power for cheap!

  • @asherdeangelo3268
    @asherdeangelo3268 4 года назад +16

    It would have been cheaper and faster to LS swap it , plus you get to keep your sub.

    • @myridny
      @myridny 4 года назад

      Hahahaha

    • @cameronvandygriff7048
      @cameronvandygriff7048 4 года назад +4

      Ya know these episodes are like 15 years old now an LS swap when the ls was that new wasn't as cheap as it is now

    • @asherdeangelo3268
      @asherdeangelo3268 4 года назад

      @@cameronvandygriff7048 well even an lt1 was cheap in the late 90s..that still would have been better..

    • @AutoYoung
      @AutoYoung 4 года назад +3

      @@asherdeangelo3268
      Dude, it's not meant to be a performance monster. The whole point is fuel economy and have a little bump in performance. It's meant to be a fun daily and you got your race car at home. The next episode is more extensive anyway...

    • @asherdeangelo3268
      @asherdeangelo3268 4 года назад

      @@AutoYoung I had an 91..however I'm not talking about a race car...but reliability..in 92 gm was way behind in technology..including Performance.. if your going to drive it

  • @FreddyFunderbunz
    @FreddyFunderbunz 4 года назад +6

    Be a lot cooler if they added laugh tracks to these old episodes

  • @greco37
    @greco37 4 года назад +10

    Thats a beautiful car for the price, Love that deep green. Drafting works but you run the risk of getting chips on the front or windshield. Anyway, fantastic video and thanks for sharing!

    • @stoveboltlvr3798
      @stoveboltlvr3798 4 года назад

      Agreed, that green is sharp!

    • @paulthesoundguy1
      @paulthesoundguy1 2 года назад

      Why would they even mention drafting? Seems ignorant to me….destroys a paint job

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL Год назад

      Yeah, I'm thinking save a penny on gas but have to pay to replace a truck thrown stone broken windshield...

  • @guyconnell2250
    @guyconnell2250 4 года назад +4

    It is embarrassing to realize that you have to include in the video actual step by step instructions on how to calculate mpg. Not slamming you guys. Just acknowledging a grim, scary reality. I have calculated my mpg in my head for decades. Times have changed I guess.

  • @dumpgodby1874
    @dumpgodby1874 4 года назад +3

    I'm getting a 92 rs with a 305,5 speed t tops here in the next day or so

    • @chuckbroso
      @chuckbroso 4 года назад

      Enjoy man. Just don't do what these guys did lol

    • @2doorevo155
      @2doorevo155 4 года назад

      Whats mods are you doing im geting one aswell

    • @adamspitfire
      @adamspitfire 3 года назад

      Cool car

  • @DQSpider
    @DQSpider Год назад +1

    Two minutes in and so far I've been told to fill my tires by the max pressure on the sidewall and to draft trailers "at a safe distance" which doesn't work, you need to be very close to the trailer for drafting to work. If you're following at a safe distance you're now caught in the trailer's wash and probably getting worse fuel economy. Did y'all's fact checkers all quit at once?

  • @mikeceli
    @mikeceli 2 года назад +1

    Above project went down the toilet at relocating the battery to the trunk, for a "Cold Air Intake"! The under car exposed air filter will get filthy and the first drive through a road puddle will plug it up. Butchered OE wiring, giving up valuable trunk space, etc. The after work MPG test was done driving by a vacuum / fuel economy gauge, unlike the first test. So the 2 MPH mileage increase was suspect. Even so, the cost of the "upgrades" will take forever to amortize (brake even).

  • @Brock_Landers
    @Brock_Landers 4 года назад +3

    50 inches of vacuum? Hory shet! I have built engines that don't pull that much vacuum. Even my stock engines only pull around 25...

  • @BenFilley
    @BenFilley 3 года назад +3

    Had a 95 z28 with the lt1 and if I had a full tank and only ran it down the highway, it got around 28mpg. Which to me was amazing out of a v8 from 95.

  • @ryurc3033
    @ryurc3033 2 года назад +1

    Half of these comments are ridiculous armchair engineers who have never built anything. Over explained, underwhelming criticism. Were you not entertained? Do it yourself if you can do better.

  • @Itsme-mx5tl
    @Itsme-mx5tl 4 года назад +1

    When you have sponsors to buy you shit, why not go all out? Junkyard LS, cam, springs, injectors and a big weiner turbo 500+ HP all day

  • @PolishJoe1000
    @PolishJoe1000 4 года назад +5

    Best part of this episode was Joe's mother-in-law joke.

  • @solomonlynn7456
    @solomonlynn7456 4 года назад +1

    Did he say "budget of $600"? That's allot of money to gain about 9 horsepower and maybe 2 miles per gallon. Wouldn't it be easier to gut the interior and break out the hole saw? Changing the power to weight ratio is practically free.

    • @ronniejohnson317
      @ronniejohnson317 4 года назад +1

      32 more miles per tankful of gas. About a gallon and a half of gas worth. $3.50 per tank would take 172 tanks of gas.

  • @capricetony
    @capricetony 3 года назад +2

    TBI 305 L03 engine’s although not powerful were dependable and would run 250k easy or better 👍

    • @jameshuban6515
      @jameshuban6515 2 года назад

      My LG4 has over 360K and I stopped driving it over 10 years ago. (a mistake) It was getting 27 - 29 mpg on the highway. That's using the electronic quadrajet carb. It's was a refreshing change from the 2nd gen. and still one of the best designed cars made.

    • @devianb
      @devianb Год назад

      Yes, they were dependable truck engines.

  • @tylerc7336
    @tylerc7336 4 года назад +4

    Another good upgrade to do is get a aftermarket intake manifold for a carb and they make a adaptor for the TBI

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL Год назад

      Or cut the divider out of the stock TBI intake...

  • @coolHandLuke5150
    @coolHandLuke5150 4 года назад +4

    Warm air equals better mpg, old air equals better HP. Its one of the other not both

    • @mcqueenfanman
      @mcqueenfanman 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, lower coolant temps equal lower mpgs too. Get it back up to 200* running down the road, 235* is normal fan on temp. I'd like to see a test where they have 2 of these camaros, one with a 400 2bbl hwy gears and the other with a 305 4bbl and see if it can match the other in performance & mpgs.

    • @stickytarmacs
      @stickytarmacs 4 года назад

      😱😱ruclips.net/video/mcZzYkCwD2Q/видео.html

  • @samthelegoman3990
    @samthelegoman3990 4 года назад +2

    Did they buy this from Jeremy clarkson

  • @thevermonsterrichards5163
    @thevermonsterrichards5163 4 года назад +5

    tire pressure for that car is located in the door jam the pressure on tires is max rating for the tire and isn't what is recommended for that car usually is way to much tire pressure

    • @8000RPM.
      @8000RPM. 4 года назад +1

      That's probably what contributed to the mileage improvement.

  • @chrisstrande5878
    @chrisstrande5878 4 года назад +2

    Ahhh I had a 91 305 TBI. My daily Driver loved it but I seen that Air induction not a fan. Lol I stuck with t the Edelbrock air cleaner. I think mine did pretty good with just a single fan setup the only thing that was a pain is just a air condenser is in the way of that radiator. I just threw a 180 thermostat in there🤷 I definitely also love i just had the 273 posi axle. Diff Ratio plays a vital role. Man. The car wasn't fast unless you advance it to 4 degrees lmaol I love the miles per gallon out of it and I love the fact that I could celebrate like crazy if I didn't want to care about MPG it was more of I'm driving a 3rd gen with a great body style and I'm listening to some 80s music and I'm chilling. There are times where I'll take one bolt off behind the cat and rotate the intermediate pipe above the cat and tighten it where I just have it dumped boy what a loud TBI. But I really wouldn't recommend it on that highway speeds because I noticed that it acts like a manual transmission and drags when you let off the gas but around the city you'll get noticed lol

  • @randellgribben9772
    @randellgribben9772 3 года назад +1

    make this easy.. install a 2.0 ecotec turbo, and a oem 6 speed transmission= fast and great fuel milage

  • @beedub0218
    @beedub0218 4 года назад +3

    It's sad that you have to teach people how to figure gas mileage.....

  • @302hobronco
    @302hobronco 4 года назад +2

    Did they do anymore engine upgrades to this? I'd like to see more power out that 305 and still retain the 20ish mpgs. I think with today's engine tech that should be pretty easy.

  • @ViciousPandaJ
    @ViciousPandaJ 3 года назад +1

    How to tune a third gen for optimal mpg and good power = 4.8 /5.3 ls swap

  • @rubotomy
    @rubotomy 2 года назад +1

    I’m a simple man. I see 3rd gen Camaro, I click

  • @tylerc7336
    @tylerc7336 4 года назад +3

    Haha wow this brings me back, I had this same exact camaro when I was 18, 1992 305 TBI, 5 speed, same color, t-tops, same 25th anniversary rims, back then it was "fast" compared to other vehicles I would race, then I bought a 93 5.0, I actually ended up locking my brakes up on a hairpin turn the front left caliper locked up and I ended up 50ft down a embankment it ruined the car and I used the insurance $ to get my foxbody, that was about 16yrs ago that brings back some memories

    • @stickytarmacs
      @stickytarmacs 4 года назад

      😱😱ruclips.net/video/mcZzYkCwD2Q/видео.html

    • @goratgo1970
      @goratgo1970 4 года назад

      Have same car now - 'cept Met. red Conv. But back then only way I could beat 5.0's was I ordered 1991 1LE G-92 Z/28. Camaro's were heavier, but handled, the 1LE was much quicker. Funny it cost less than showroom Z/28, got it for $16,900.

  • @bldeagle10
    @bldeagle10 2 года назад +1

    I was really expecting “phase one is swapping in an LS3 E-Rod crate engine!”

  • @P-nutBD
    @P-nutBD 4 года назад +1

    A 305? That has no guts at all. If you really wanted to to that thing more fuel mileage and improve a little on HP then grab a v6, mpfi, ignition upgrade, change the ecm for mpfi, stick a turbo on it and there you can see upwards of 15-25% improvement. Recoup the costs in 8-12 months; pure savings after. Hell I've even figured out how to introduce a VVT to SBCs w/o needing to change the cam so more savings.

    • @omegarugal9283
      @omegarugal9283 4 года назад

      or put a 350 and at least get more HP for the same MPGs

    • @mcqueenfanman
      @mcqueenfanman 4 года назад +1

      Bigger engine with a 2bbl. & taller gears and a good tune would be the best option.

  • @kenleppek
    @kenleppek 4 года назад +2

    Omg my mullet is growing by the second. Call me a red neck but I absolutely love a 92 RS. And that color? I had a 93 grand prix special edition that same green but with gold trim....btw somewhat of a rare green, beautiful!

  • @themackguyverchannel7713
    @themackguyverchannel7713 Год назад +1

    Sorry 9 buck a quart oil ain’t going in a clapped out 305

  • @markwilson9063
    @markwilson9063 4 года назад +2

    Those engines really like between 1 and 4 degrees over base timing for best performance.
    ACCEL Ignition Control Module 35370 should be used for these applications, avoid ACCEL 35362. They are both listed as compatible but 35370 is based on GM's performance module and 35362 is based on GM's economy module. These modules have different latencys that are taken into account by the ECM. Use of the economy module will result in VERY poor performance in these vehicles. Additionally, if you are upgrading the ignition system without gapping the plugs wider you are wasting your time.
    The best mod for the money on those throttle bodys is to double up the gasket under the injectors - raising them above the bores and allowing more CFM's to enter the engine. Swapping to the 350 injectors is also a worthwhile mod. Some have modified the intake to work with the 454 throttle body as well.
    There are still short tube headers available for third gens. I like the 2460HKR by Hooker, but there are plenty of options. I would recommend replacing the factory manifolds and exhausts as soon as possible as it made the most noticeable difference on my 305 TBI Firebird. Just remember that if you are pushing for 350 power you need an exhaust to accommodate that.
    The factory rocker arms have a tolerance of +.1 to -.1. Replacing them with literally any reputable aftermarket will improve performance, even if they are also stamped rockers. The H.O. 305 heads should be considered for any third gen owner trying to get the most out of their 305 as they flow much better, even without porting and valve work. Look for castings ending in 416 or 601 at the scrap yard. They can often be found on mid 80's trucks with 305s.
    The H.O. 305 also featured the 929 cam that was originally released in the 350HP 327 Chevelle if you like the retro sound and good low end to mid-range power. If you are looking at aftermarket cams don't go over .48 lift unless you have made major alterations or the valve will contact the cylinder wall.

    • @otsenres1636
      @otsenres1636 4 года назад +1

      Good info thank you

    • @ちくてぬしくけて
      @ちくてぬしくけて 2 года назад +1

      Great info! If i would have known, i would have kept my LO3. Heck, 300hp is more than enough to have fun in these cars!

    • @markwilson9063
      @markwilson9063 2 года назад

      @@ちくてぬしくけて on a curvy enough road my 91 TBI 305 powered Formula could keep pace with a friends 800hp 06 Mustang GT. He would spend several K on some upgrade and I would respond by doubling up a gasket or grabbing a set of heads at the scrap yard - can't keep up with his new 1300hp Shelby for shit though 😂😅

  • @jackmehoff2961
    @jackmehoff2961 4 года назад +3

    With the air filter right behind the front wheel,
    What`s keeping it from sucking up water in the rain ?
    Why is your set up better than stock ?

    • @brettgillmore5825
      @brettgillmore5825 4 года назад

      Further away from the engine which in turn means "colder" air which means more power. Granted the gains aren't massive but it can still help. They also make covers to put over filters that repel water from going into the intake

    • @jackmehoff2961
      @jackmehoff2961 4 года назад +1

      @@brettgillmore5825 it already had a cold air intake scoop.

  • @mylesdeep1736
    @mylesdeep1736 4 года назад +3

    I'm not up to par on TBI motors but that cold air kit was pretty slick. I like how you get a refund for the parts you don't use.

  • @user-hq6dl2lc1w
    @user-hq6dl2lc1w 4 года назад +1

    where in the hell are you gonna find a car like that four 4 grand?

  • @nathan40307
    @nathan40307 4 года назад +3

    You put the air intake under the car. Guess it never rains where y'all live.

    • @samholcombe3129
      @samholcombe3129 4 года назад

      I did something similar on my 91 Z28 5.7 and never had any problems. I took out my fog lights and routed it through there. You still have air filters

    • @bucknasty88
      @bucknasty88 Месяц назад

      That's why some folks have more than 1 car...

  • @pooch3183
    @pooch3183 3 года назад +1

    I told my mom when i was a kid I wanted a iroc , I still want one sooo bad

  • @randomcrap763
    @randomcrap763 4 года назад +4

    That cold air intake is great. As long as you are never going to drive in heavy rain lol

    • @Taydrum
      @Taydrum 3 года назад

      Not so great for fuel economy either

  • @jimthomas1989
    @jimthomas1989 Месяц назад +1

    Didn't know that joe was 80 and died !

  • @Floreypottery
    @Floreypottery 4 года назад +1

    I like the mpg on my old foxbody carbureted it could get 30 or better mpg highway when it’s cooler at night. But when you floored it with that edelbrock 750 carb you could watch the gauge move lol

  • @otsenres1636
    @otsenres1636 4 года назад +4

    These 3rd gens are getting hard too find and high on prices used. I remember seeing so many at pick n pull...

    • @DerrickRG
      @DerrickRG 4 года назад +2

      Yep. Haven't seen a V8 Thirdgen at my local yard in 2 years.

    • @ちくてぬしくけて
      @ちくてぬしくけて 2 года назад

      Same here. I always have to order from hawks to buy stuff... so damn expensive!

  • @possumpopper89
    @possumpopper89 4 года назад +2

    Don’t ever drive that car in the rain! That air inlet will suck in water and the engine will hydro-lock.

    • @jewllake
      @jewllake 4 года назад

      exactly!

    • @daniellaubach7544
      @daniellaubach7544 4 года назад

      Or simply add a K&N air filter to avoid water splash into the intake just save yourself from that headache!

    • @possumpopper89
      @possumpopper89 4 года назад

      Daniel Laubach doesn’t help much. I’ve seen water get through those too.

  • @davidbuddendorf991
    @davidbuddendorf991 4 года назад +1

    I would have just added a turbo! U worked the intake and exhaust anyway, you would have added maybe 100hp to that 305 turd!

  • @mattbopp6006
    @mattbopp6006 4 года назад +1

    I had a 92 25th anniversary camaro in this green but with gold racing stripes. Loved that car and wish I could find one like it today. I would just swap in a 383 and not dork around with the 305.

  • @johndougherty8720
    @johndougherty8720 2 года назад +1

    Is that a factory third generation color? It is really nice ... makes the car pop.

    • @devianb
      @devianb Год назад

      Yes, I believe it was called Polo Green. I was always partial to the teal one.

  • @chrisromero5302
    @chrisromero5302 3 года назад +1

    A lot of this is common sense. But most people nowadays lack common sense on how to drive.

  • @JackCecil
    @JackCecil 2 года назад

    Dyno graph looks like it was a botched run. And no comparison with first run. You can do better than this guys.

  • @terrygugel3803
    @terrygugel3803 4 года назад +2

    Got an 88 I-ROC 350 TPI love it don't see many 3rd gen's any more

  • @8000RPM.
    @8000RPM. 4 года назад +2

    With the location of that cold air intake,....stay away from deep water...

  • @jorgedacosta8957
    @jorgedacosta8957 3 месяца назад

    The Tuned Port Injection had better gas mileage along with more power. So that T.B.I. Was just a great smog motor in the times. They were better probably sticking in a T56 tranny with some 3:73 rear gears. Sometimes your better off just starting fresh, a better LT1 or a LS2 motor etc.

  • @chuck_machine
    @chuck_machine 4 года назад +2

    6:52 - Look, it's a factory Sniper setup!

  • @joswaymu
    @joswaymu 4 года назад +2

    That intro! Not the best timing since gas has been super cheap lately (1.79/gallon in my area)

  • @cesarconh895
    @cesarconh895 4 года назад +1

    Is that a Matco 2x4 holding the hood open?

    • @otsenres1636
      @otsenres1636 4 года назад

      700 dollars standard ,800 for the shellac model.

  • @KBrissette
    @KBrissette 3 года назад +1

    Used to own this exact car years ago(same year, color, t-tops, ect.) Was my first car, wish i never sold it.

  • @austinv183
    @austinv183 Месяц назад

    All that for 9hp and 2mpg? That would be absolutely unnoticeable while driving, and is basically within the margin of error of the measurements. A few degrees difference in the ambient temperature could account for a 9hp difference, a slightly different driving route or throttle input would account for 2mpg. Basically just did an unnecessarily expensive tune up. And that new air filter location is one puddle away from hydrolocking the engine all for an imperceptible hp gain, not worth the risk, let alone the price. If you wanna make decent power out of one of these: first rip out all the emissions crap, that'll get you up near 200hp, then throw on a performance intake, 4 barrel carb, some headers, and a true dual exhaust and you'll be creeping up on 300hp. Toss a mild cam in there and you'll be over 300 and become the king of the trailer park.

  • @johnsheetz6639
    @johnsheetz6639 2 года назад +1

    In my opinion half the stuff they put on there was useless for fuel mileage. Change plugs fresh filter and oil. I bet they were light on the pedal on the second test a stick shift would have made more difference in every single one of these.

    • @AlphanumericCharacters
      @AlphanumericCharacters Год назад +1

      These shows are paid for by the vendors. It’s all ads.

    • @johnsheetz6639
      @johnsheetz6639 Год назад

      Car mags did the same. Used to pay about 20$ in nineties money every month to be mislead lol. You tube is way better as far as the real knowledge goes, if you know where to look.

  • @williambartholomew5680
    @williambartholomew5680 4 года назад +2

    Pretty sure that chip to make the engine "run cooler" is by making it run more rich, that probably didn't help your fuel economy

    • @1439of2000
      @1439of2000 4 года назад

      Probably just turns fans on earlier

  • @jth1987leb
    @jth1987leb 4 года назад +1

    You have to be kidding me. You fill your tire to the psi marked on the inside of the door not the tire

  • @franklast7955
    @franklast7955 4 года назад +2

    I wish more people used cruise control that would solve a lot road rage

  • @heavytrucks5237
    @heavytrucks5237 4 года назад +1

    Nice sponsor but that doesn't improve nothing. What thats gonna do is leak from every seal the engine has. Thats a fail i hope no one does this to there old school car or truck.

    • @pedrorojascervantes3928
      @pedrorojascervantes3928 4 года назад

      I put synthetic in a 89 Bronco with a 302 when it was 9 years old with only 60,000 miles & it started to leak like mad.

    • @heavytrucks5237
      @heavytrucks5237 4 года назад

      Synthetic oil is only for newer engines from 2000 & up. The push rods and rocker heads dont let thick oil to pass through. Just use normal 20W50 & all well be ok.

  • @PhilStewart-xf9rp
    @PhilStewart-xf9rp 2 месяца назад

    The problem is that the chevrolet t.b.i
    Swirlport5.0 and 5.7 heads suck, they don't flow and have a poor chamber design for power they are for emissions and nothing else. You can't port them much and the little that you can isn't worth the time or money. Best way to get h.p. out of that car on a budget would be a nitrous shot, if the engine and fuel system is healthy, 100-150 shot would drop that car deep into the low 13's maybe high 12's for less than what they are spending..

  • @dustinlapradd5456
    @dustinlapradd5456 2 месяца назад

    Did anyone else catch the “You’ll get better mileage with proper PSI which you can find on each tire”? Pretty sure you’re supposed to run the pressures listed in the manual/on the door jamb…

  • @Octane350
    @Octane350 Месяц назад

    ugh, no its not the max tire pressure. look at the door sticker if it has one. if not, and you're running stock size tires and wheels, its 33-36 psi front and rear. you can prematurely wear your tires out doing this max pressure.

  • @WunKoolKat
    @WunKoolKat Год назад

    1:17 is MAX PSI and not the PSI that is for that car specifically. The specific PSI should be on the door jamb and is much lower (30 PSI for stock Camaro RS I believe).

  • @ronniejohnson317
    @ronniejohnson317 4 года назад +1

    Two mpg with a 16 gallon tank would yield 32 miles per tank. That would be about a gallon and a half of gas extra per tank. That would be about $3.50 per tankful. So, to make your money back on $600, you will have to buy 171 tankfuls.

  • @KPearce57
    @KPearce57 4 года назад +3

    It needs a transplant double the HP and fuel economy .

  • @Storm10xx
    @Storm10xx Месяц назад

    I have a 91 caprice with a 305 tbi, and all i did was long tube headers, x-pipe. A ram air intake and replaced the plugs and wires, and it dynoed at 195hp. And i spent way less than what these guys did.

  • @davidbuddendorf991
    @davidbuddendorf991 2 месяца назад

    Do not go by the maximum tire pressure labeled on the tire ..You are asking for a bad handling car or worse.. Always look at your driver's side door or manual there will be a label there telling you what air pressure to put in in the front and rear tires!!!

  • @J2A61
    @J2A61 4 года назад

    I hope this is a old video that just aired because why on earth would anyone spend $600 on a 144hp 305 in 2020???? You’d have to be the most clueless person at auto zone......

  • @coreyrowe2052
    @coreyrowe2052 4 года назад

    Let's spend $700 on a 9hp upgrade!!! 🤣🤣🤣
    They spent $107 on synthetic fluid upgrades, which I can guarantee you, DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for this upgrade!!! 9 effing horsepower! You could have gotten a 5psi turbo off eBay for $350 and made more power. And, yes, eBay existed when this came out!!!
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    9HP!?!!!??!!?????! IBKVIFJWJSIKHGDEFCCHH
    AHHHHHHHHHHJJ! REALLY???????? $700??????
    OMG SOMEONE STOP ME!!!!

  • @alanq64
    @alanq64 4 года назад +2

    I like the 3rd gen hood prop rod... doubles for the back hatch also.haha

  • @ForzaRT
    @ForzaRT 4 года назад +1

    I had the same car, exterior color interior color same wheels. Beautiful. I miss it,
    I would like test With headers, 2-1/2 exhaust and catback...

  • @bobdobbs6865
    @bobdobbs6865 4 года назад +3

    serious downvote this episode..
    1:17 tire pressure should be as printed on the door sticker
    1:49 drive the speed limit?? so you're saying if limit is 30 and i drive 30 I get the best mileage? then i can move to a 45 mph road, 15 mph faster and still get best economy..
    what if the city raise4s the 30 zone to a 35,
    injectors pump a fixed amount of fuel per cycle.. higher rpm = more fuel used
    you guys blew it on this one.. didn't bother watching the rest of it

    • @Taydrum
      @Taydrum 4 года назад +1

      >Adding a cold air intake for fuel economy gains
      "I'm somewhat of an engine builder myself"

  • @jp360ford2
    @jp360ford2 Год назад

    I don’t doubt the fuel economy at all. I had a 5.0 Foxbody, bone stock. 5speed. Took it on a small road trip with some city driving. Got 23mpg. I know I could’ve gotten better. Never had the chance to play with it. Had to sell it because I started a family. 20 years later we’ve got a 3rd Gen Firebird, same green as this Camaro, 305. Can’t wait to get it on the road. It’s an auto though 🤔

  • @LSxHunter
    @LSxHunter 4 года назад +1

    I've daily driven third gens for probably 10 years now. Love my '91, the TPI and Moser helps ;).