Building A '92 Camaro For Both Optimal Fuel Economy And Power - HorsePower S12, E14
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2020
- HorsePower kicks off its most extraordinary project ever. It's a '92 Camaro they will build up for optimal fuel economy AND horsepower. Phase one features a series of parts and tips they'll use to show you how to save energy while also enjoying the fun of a hot rod. Plus, they'll stay within a 500-dollar budget!
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Accel: Cap and rotor kit, external HEI coil, ignition module, and spark plug wire set.
CFM Technologies: Throttle body spacer for most 86-92 GM.
Hypertech: Thermo-Master computer chip, Thermostat, Cool fan switch.
K&N: K&N oil filter.
Loctite: Loctite thread locking compound.
Matco Tools: Matco vacuum testing guage.
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Super-Start Battery.
Phoenix Systems LLC: Strip Dip Brake Fluid Test Strip.
Roush Performance: This kit comes with a 2.3L TVS supercharger with black finish, upper and lower intake manifolds, an intercooler, a low temp radiator, a cold air intake system, a dual 60mm electronic throttle body, a unique fuel rail with 52 lb/hr fuel injectors.
Spectre Performance: Carb hat, one standard, one low profile, 2- 90 degree, 2- 60 degree, 2- 45 degree, 2-straight, couplers, foam inserts, Quik-Fab universal kit.
Taylor Cable Products: Battery relocation kit supplied with wires. 
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Saw a 3rd gen and I just had to click. Goes good with my morning coffee.
I fully agree😉😎
I’ve had 4 -3rd gens, love them
Check out mine on my channel
Man. That’s all I see now is you and your morning coffee 😂
Amen brother☕
11:17. Remove the subwoofer? On a '92 Camaro, what's more important? More power? Or awesome sound system to listen to your Van Halen cassettes?
Might as well jump.
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.. Iron Maiden... with my Mullet
j d pollard Led Zeppelin 😎
Dirty Harry yeah I agree turkeys are better than turtles!!
The recommended tire pressure is actually found on the driver’s door jamb. The psi on the sidewall is the tire manufacturer’s maximum psi... 1:20
Agreed, also 5 quarts for that oil pan is too much.
Hmm not sure I would run my power line underneath the car, I also wouldn't put my intake in a place where water from a small puddle or rain would blow right in.
I guess they do not drive the car when it rains!
replacing the factory "T" style exhaust merge with a proper y pipe would add way more power and economy than all the fiddling they did in this episode
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I agree completely! That was my thought when I watched it!
They need a exhaust sponsor
True That-I have same car, except a convertible even heavier. Horrendous stock exhaust HAS to get replaced w. either dedicated RH full dual like my 1LE had back then, or the recent dual down the center header kits include channeled trans. X-member. Mine just as clean but with 300,000 mi. Woman owned it since 1993. Took great care of it.
Funny, i have a factiry exhaust that trickles down a quarter inch at a time from a 1 5/8 primary straight into a 4-1 huge cat like a huge tea from cookout and
Stems down from 4 inches all the way down to 2 out the muffler
It's fun to watch these 12-15 year old episodes, mostly to know how far and how fast technology has come. 22mpg and 150hp just won't cut it these days.
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you mean fun to watch these nearly 30 year old cars.... this episode was posted 9/12/20... It's in HD no less.
@@jhlancaster3 the episode is from 2008.
@@OldManBadly So you're saying you want 23mpg & 151hp?
I jest
@@artmallory970 maybe 152.
Proper tire inflation is not on the tire, it's on the door or door jam!
Seriously, WTF was that? Talk about spreading bad, dangerous information!
Heard his say read the tire side wall and not the mfg recommended numbers on the door jam/door. Immediately headed to the comments... found this one and thumbs up.
That only works if it still has the oem tire type
Who told you that one? The 17 year old at walmart? Tons of R&D go into proper inflation from the manufacturers. How do I know? ASE Master Certified with 30 years of experience
Wes Haraldsen I’m talking about a car with aftermarket wheels and tires dude, like if you go from 16”to 20”
For the Air intake, recommend keeping the intake filter high so when you drive through water puddles when it is raining, you wont suck up water into your engine, heck ram air is nice, but gotta resolve the rain issue there too.
Guys spend almost $200 on Accel parts and then try and save $20 on a universal wire kit?
They have sponsors to pay for everything
The tire pressure recommendation is on the inside of the driver door jam. The pressure on the tire is the maximum tire pressure you can use without the tire failing and be safe.
Not on a ‘92.
@@AlphanumericCharacters- yes on 92
Definitely expected to see some exhaust modifications in there as well. Loses weight and helps the engine breathe better. Fun to see the old episodes anyway!
Saw this series a few years back...been searching for it again.... Great low budget tips!
I'm so happy you are doing performance tuning on a 305. They do have potential unlike what many people think as they are a Chevy small block V8 and they can make great power for cheap!
150hp is not great power
In today’s episode we’ll show you how to spend a fortune for minimal gains in HP and MPG on this sweet 90s smog car!
lol
Get rid of that smog equipment
Not really.
That's a tune up.
Could have tossed a 4.8 or 5.3 w/a cam and been way better off
@@gregbrightwell662 that's some expensive tune up material tho. You're not wrong, most of this was standard "tune up" procedures but they put the best of everything to achieve that goal.
Damn sure can't find a decent, unmolested 3rd Gen like that now.
they are out there but they arent the prices these idiots claim. that being said i know were i can pick up 2 91 formulas for $2000
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 Got directions? haha.
I know one guy that have a 90 or 91 iroc z and they have the car since 1995 bone stock
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 This episode is from 2008.
I know where you can in ky and Tennessee
Love those 3rd gens, beautiful, build-able and sweet, especially with T tops! Lets keep going with THIS build, lots more can be done. Thanks.
Bein a former owner of a '89 RS edition camaro T-top dark grey metallic. Do like the 3rd gen editions-would love to own another somewhere down the road again.
@@daniellaubach7544 Yes! I have an 83 that will get the LQ9 I have put in it some day soon I hope, car just puts a smile on my face, Every-time! LOL
What is going on with those HP/TQ curves at 13:40?
Exactly what I was thinking , def one of the most erratic curves I have seen
Probably the transmission slipping.
Looks like it was learning how to tie shoes...loop, swoop and pull lol
possibly converter locking up?
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I've daily driven third gens for probably 10 years now. Love my '91, the TPI and Moser helps ;).
first of all...
HOW IN THE HELL DID THEY FIND A LOW MILEAGE 92 CAMARO THAT WASNT RAGGED THE HELL OUT
pay for it
Barrett Jackson
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 $4k like he said, with under 100,000 miles? Yeah, keep looking...
This was filmed in 2008
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Such a clean 3rd gen!! I want it.
Thumbs up for the best into I've seen in a car show
I love a good clean 3rd gen. Best bang for the buck is some long tube headers and a dyno tune on tunerpro. Neat trick on the broken off bolt. I personally would have welded to it and unscrewed. But that worked fine.
Got an 88 I-ROC 350 TPI love it don't see many 3rd gen's any more
Another good upgrade to do is get a aftermarket intake manifold for a carb and they make a adaptor for the TBI
Or cut the divider out of the stock TBI intake...
Thats a beautiful car for the price, Love that deep green. Drafting works but you run the risk of getting chips on the front or windshield. Anyway, fantastic video and thanks for sharing!
Agreed, that green is sharp!
Why would they even mention drafting? Seems ignorant to me….destroys a paint job
Yeah, I'm thinking save a penny on gas but have to pay to replace a truck thrown stone broken windshield...
I'm getting a 92 rs with a 305,5 speed t tops here in the next day or so
Enjoy man. Just don't do what these guys did lol
Whats mods are you doing im geting one aswell
Cool car
After 35years I still have fun each spring that I bring my '88 IROC out of winter storage! I rebuilt the engine a few years back thanks to Summit , Dyno Don, GMMG, and Victory Engines (block work). I love making the roughly 30mile drive to Summit.
I did that once in my 09 Sentra one night on the Turnpike, following a tractor trailer close but not too close, had my readout set for MPG, started about 29, and after many miles, it was in the low 40s, granted this was the middle of the night, but still was impressed
Driver: States it feels like its getting a little more horsepower.
Dyno: You gained 9 Hp of that shitty intake
Me: SMH
Even worse, they put a chip in the ECU, put a throttle spacer and that intake, for 9 HP
9 hp from an intake is pretty good! The ECU chip was to help keep it cool and nothing to do with power gains.
@@4BillC No they absolutely put it in for HP gains.
@@farcere actually yeah what does the chip actually do for h.p.?
@@bruceh92 changes the fuel table. More fuel at rpm points, probably raised the rev limit too
That's a beautiful car, love the dark green metallic color.
Love Mike !
Had a 95 z28 with the lt1 and if I had a full tank and only ran it down the highway, it got around 28mpg. Which to me was amazing out of a v8 from 95.
I had a 92 25th anniversary camaro in this green but with gold racing stripes. Loved that car and wish I could find one like it today. I would just swap in a 383 and not dork around with the 305.
The best of both worlds! Man that old oil looked black!
Ahhh I had a 91 305 TBI. My daily Driver loved it but I seen that Air induction not a fan. Lol I stuck with t the Edelbrock air cleaner. I think mine did pretty good with just a single fan setup the only thing that was a pain is just a air condenser is in the way of that radiator. I just threw a 180 thermostat in there🤷 I definitely also love i just had the 273 posi axle. Diff Ratio plays a vital role. Man. The car wasn't fast unless you advance it to 4 degrees lmaol I love the miles per gallon out of it and I love the fact that I could celebrate like crazy if I didn't want to care about MPG it was more of I'm driving a 3rd gen with a great body style and I'm listening to some 80s music and I'm chilling. There are times where I'll take one bolt off behind the cat and rotate the intermediate pipe above the cat and tighten it where I just have it dumped boy what a loud TBI. But I really wouldn't recommend it on that highway speeds because I noticed that it acts like a manual transmission and drags when you let off the gas but around the city you'll get noticed lol
Fantastic! 🏆🏆🏆
I like the 3rd gen hood prop rod... doubles for the back hatch also.haha
I told my mom when i was a kid I wanted a iroc , I still want one sooo bad
"Check tire pressure. Properly inflated tires will give you the best mileage."
Inflates tires to near max pressure stated on the sidewall of the tire instead of GM rating for that size tire on that vehicle. IOW, improperly, OVERLY inflated.
Also, could have converted to TPI with secondhand, EBay parts on a budget and gotten the mileage and power increases they got for the money with all the gimmicky stuff they did that basically amounted to normal maintenance.... No reason to use all those high dollar fluids on a sub 150 hp cruiser. A drag car that you are trying to eke every last bit of power out of it, sure, but not this.
EXACTLY!! How stupid are these HOT ROD guys????
To be fair the psi on the door card would have been for the OEM tyres and wheels. Assuming those tyres are probably not made anymore...I'd check the tyres over the door card.
You nailed it!
If there the same size tire that originally came with the car which will tell you on the door card, always go with the tire pressure on the door card! You should also check tires are wearing evenly.
Absolutely, the pressure number on the tire is the Max pressure rating, nothing more. It’s all about the weight of the vehicle on the tires. Use the door sticker. There are morons everywhere running around overinflated where I live. A recent customer brought me a car with the complaint of “weird tire wear.” The tires were smooth in the center.
That cold air intake is great. As long as you are never going to drive in heavy rain lol
Not so great for fuel economy either
I had this car back when I was a 20 year old. The 25th anniversary edition back with the red wheels and hood snd trunk stripes. I thought stock it had 170 hp? I loved the body kit they came with. T-tops and mine was a 5 speed manual. Loved that thing. Now I have a 4th gen SS 2001 with 50k miles on it. Love these cars.
oh boy, I had to check this out.
That was my first car but it was white in color with a red stripe. I loved that car. Thinking about getting another
The Accell coil and plugs do help performance and MPG. If you can dial in your carb its gets even better. . have a 74 351 and get more than 20 on the highway
I had a beautiful white 1992 Firebird Formula with the slow as a boat TBI 305. It had the same Fastech chip and thermostat. It had 3 inch exhaust which actually sounded pretty good. The BEST upgrade that made the biggest difference were the fresh Goodyear GTA tires. They hooked up immediately and never let go. I swapped to Goodyear RSA's and I swear I lost a full second with those on. Still was an awesome car though. Was actually very nice and reliable as a hammer.
Did you remove and drain the torque converter? Problem with air intake in my area would be you sucking in water when it rains here. Gets a bit deep at times.
Omg my mullet is growing by the second. Call me a red neck but I absolutely love a 92 RS. And that color? I had a 93 grand prix special edition that same green but with gold trim....btw somewhat of a rare green, beautiful!
Love that Green
I’m glad they made this video becouse I had more than 5 of this car
That’s a nice looking car.
Used to own this exact car years ago(same year, color, t-tops, ect.) Was my first car, wish i never sold it.
6:52 - Look, it's a factory Sniper setup!
I like the mpg on my old foxbody carbureted it could get 30 or better mpg highway when it’s cooler at night. But when you floored it with that edelbrock 750 carb you could watch the gauge move lol
that 3rd gen is mint
89 IROC-Z: Stroked the original 350 to 383. Got the TPI motor down to a 12.81, 25.2 mpg and passed my local smog test.
I like it! I have an 82 Z28 with only 45,000 on the clock.
Best part of this episode was Joe's mother-in-law joke.
Can i get part numbers for every part of the air intake?
exactly what did the 'chip' do for cooling ? Turn the fans on earlier, richen the fuel ?
My 1991 Trans Am got 25 miles per gallon every time I took it on a long road trip across the country. It's basically the same car as this, only with different bumpers and ground effects + badging. But mine is Tuned Port Injection. This Camaro looks to be Throttle Body Injection.
My Trans Am was able to run 110 MPH @ 3k RPM going through Mexico lol. (Rear gears are 2.73)
Be a lot cooler if they added laugh tracks to these old episodes
saw this and I'm a broke college kid rebuilding a 92 camaro so this was well placed thanks youtube and powernation
I'm not up to par on TBI motors but that cold air kit was pretty slick. I like how you get a refund for the parts you don't use.
These are classics.I wonder how old Joe is doing now days?
I had the same car, exterior color interior color same wheels. Beautiful. I miss it,
I would like test With headers, 2-1/2 exhaust and catback...
Interesting to watch... I've got myself an '89 Iroc with the 305 TPI and about 11,000 total miles. I've been wondering what relatively basic things I can do to it to improve fuel economy and make the engine more efficient.
I ended up going with Hawk's Performance parts for most of my pieces. Good PROM chip, new Accel ignition components, Hooker shorty headers leading into a 3" system, Aluminum driveshaft, some K&N filters, 1.6 ratio roller rockers, a 3-port catch can, good brake pads, stainless braided lines, and some nice 17 inch aftermarket IROC-style rims with Goodyear rubber on them. Works great, and gets really good mileage both combined and on the highway (19/27, respectively). Stops pretty nice too.
Doing same with recently bought '91 RS Conv. Ended up w. full front-rear Hochkis for $300. And swapped rear with G-92 disc axle so far.
very interesting-
With the air filter right behind the front wheel,
What`s keeping it from sucking up water in the rain ?
Why is your set up better than stock ?
Further away from the engine which in turn means "colder" air which means more power. Granted the gains aren't massive but it can still help. They also make covers to put over filters that repel water from going into the intake
@@brettgillmore5825 it already had a cold air intake scoop.
I don’t doubt the fuel economy at all. I had a 5.0 Foxbody, bone stock. 5speed. Took it on a small road trip with some city driving. Got 23mpg. I know I could’ve gotten better. Never had the chance to play with it. Had to sell it because I started a family. 20 years later we’ve got a 3rd Gen Firebird, same green as this Camaro, 305. Can’t wait to get it on the road. It’s an auto though 🤔
Anyone else think that "cold air" piping looks alot like cheap flimsy dryer venting/hose?
Sad you don't know the company and the high quality stuff they manufacture. It's always gotta be SOMEBODY...
I thought the car basically had a cold air intake with that flexible hose to the air cleaner. They could just put in a K&N cleaner.
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You people seriously can't tell the difference between flexible hose and something that's welded? Whatever you use to see with needs to be cleaned ASAP!!! And point is to get a CUSTOM CAI for a fraction of the price of a completely fabricated one which is what they did. Not that hard...
@@AutoYoung I know the difference sparky. No need to get all up in your feels. It gained them nothing. The chip was worth a few HP. They spent 18 minutes wasting money. At this rate they'll have a really slow street car in a couple years. LOL. And, yes, I know it's an old show.
@@AutoYoung And sad SOMEBODY doesn't know the pipes behind MY dryer are flimsy tin stuff that looks very much like what they used there, not the near-reflective hose with the wire running through it. No need to get triggered big guy, maybe SOMEBODY'S dryer is different...
The Tuned Port Injection had better gas mileage along with more power. So that T.B.I. Was just a great smog motor in the times. They were better probably sticking in a T56 tranny with some 3:73 rear gears. Sometimes your better off just starting fresh, a better LT1 or a LS2 motor etc.
classic !
I was really expecting “phase one is swapping in an LS3 E-Rod crate engine!”
I had an 89 IROC with the 5.7 for some reason the intake manifold gaskets always failed. The power & handling seemed good back in the day, but I HATED the front seat & the horn. I sold it a few years later & never missed it. Never felt like buying another camaro...
What color # is this camaro? Looks super nice im fixing mines as well...
I have a purple 1992 Z-28. Purchased it new from Clark Chevrolet in Mckeesport. Now today i removed the 350 tpi and i installed an all aluminum 427 big block with a Halltech injection and a 4L80E trans. Modified the trans tunnel, installed subframe connectors, and installed a rear differential from Curry. My car has many mods Griffin rad and oil coolers. Im basically stuck with this car! Lololol but it is a blast to drive!!!
Haha wow this brings me back, I had this same exact camaro when I was 18, 1992 305 TBI, 5 speed, same color, t-tops, same 25th anniversary rims, back then it was "fast" compared to other vehicles I would race, then I bought a 93 5.0, I actually ended up locking my brakes up on a hairpin turn the front left caliper locked up and I ended up 50ft down a embankment it ruined the car and I used the insurance $ to get my foxbody, that was about 16yrs ago that brings back some memories
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Have same car now - 'cept Met. red Conv. But back then only way I could beat 5.0's was I ordered 1991 1LE G-92 Z/28. Camaro's were heavier, but handled, the 1LE was much quicker. Funny it cost less than showroom Z/28, got it for $16,900.
Just got done locating a 92 while trying to find an old 97 30th *without* the gaudy racing stripes as well as those nasty seats! Honestly, the engine compartment gives you a lot of room to put nearly everything from a 454 to a Cummins! Wish I could say that about one of the new vehicles, not every Jeep gives you much room anymore.😡
I loved my 97 Z28, I still kick myself for trading it in back in 2000!
I wish more people used cruise control that would solve a lot road rage
Did they do anymore engine upgrades to this? I'd like to see more power out that 305 and still retain the 20ish mpgs. I think with today's engine tech that should be pretty easy.
Anything over 12 miles per gallon , that makes me smile is good !
Is that a Matco 2x4 holding the hood open?
700 dollars standard ,800 for the shellac model.
In between the radiator and condenser is always full of leaves and bugs. Have to remove the radiator and clean it out. Mount silcone rubber under the bottom of the radiator and condenser to keep debris out of the space. It will not overheat in stock form once the leaves and debris are removed.
Had a plastic bag hidden between the condenser and radiator in my 94 Z28.
Drove me crazy trying to figure out what the hell was wrong as the bag was spread tight and wouldn't flap or make noises when the fans kicked in.
@@GIGABACHI It's completely crazy, they should have put skirts around the edges to block debris from getting in there. I pulled my radiator to replace it and it was completely blocked on the bottom 1/3rd. Chopped up leaves and bugs, tree seeds and so on. Had been wet and dry multiple times and compacted in there. In the gen 3 and 4 the amount of air going through there at speed is insane. Picking up everything off the ground with the intake spoiler less than 4 inches from the ground.
@2:05 - "Risk a Reckless Driving ticket" If only such a thing existed in California...
I’m a simple man. I see 3rd gen Camaro, I click
Why do you use the tire pressure listed on the tire, instead of the manufacturer recommended tire pressure on the door panel?
That filters gonna get filthy
Got 20mpg city with my 92' RS 5.0 and a 5spd.
This car looks awesome, is prob super fun and reliable to drive, is easy & cheap to fix and maintain, and is now worth at least twice what they paid. In the mean time everyone’s bitching about how it doesn’t have a thousand horsepower.
Is that a factory third generation color? It is really nice ... makes the car pop.
Yes, I believe it was called Polo Green. I was always partial to the teal one.
Wonder what my bone stock 89 GT foxbody will do with a stage 1 upgrade
make this easy.. install a 2.0 ecotec turbo, and a oem 6 speed transmission= fast and great fuel milage
Those engines really like between 1 and 4 degrees over base timing for best performance.
ACCEL Ignition Control Module 35370 should be used for these applications, avoid ACCEL 35362. They are both listed as compatible but 35370 is based on GM's performance module and 35362 is based on GM's economy module. These modules have different latencys that are taken into account by the ECM. Use of the economy module will result in VERY poor performance in these vehicles. Additionally, if you are upgrading the ignition system without gapping the plugs wider you are wasting your time.
The best mod for the money on those throttle bodys is to double up the gasket under the injectors - raising them above the bores and allowing more CFM's to enter the engine. Swapping to the 350 injectors is also a worthwhile mod. Some have modified the intake to work with the 454 throttle body as well.
There are still short tube headers available for third gens. I like the 2460HKR by Hooker, but there are plenty of options. I would recommend replacing the factory manifolds and exhausts as soon as possible as it made the most noticeable difference on my 305 TBI Firebird. Just remember that if you are pushing for 350 power you need an exhaust to accommodate that.
The factory rocker arms have a tolerance of +.1 to -.1. Replacing them with literally any reputable aftermarket will improve performance, even if they are also stamped rockers. The H.O. 305 heads should be considered for any third gen owner trying to get the most out of their 305 as they flow much better, even without porting and valve work. Look for castings ending in 416 or 601 at the scrap yard. They can often be found on mid 80's trucks with 305s.
The H.O. 305 also featured the 929 cam that was originally released in the 350HP 327 Chevelle if you like the retro sound and good low end to mid-range power. If you are looking at aftermarket cams don't go over .48 lift unless you have made major alterations or the valve will contact the cylinder wall.
Good info thank you
Great info! If i would have known, i would have kept my LO3. Heck, 300hp is more than enough to have fun in these cars!
@@Nanaehhco45 on a curvy enough road my 91 TBI 305 powered Formula could keep pace with a friends 800hp 06 Mustang GT. He would spend several K on some upgrade and I would respond by doubling up a gasket or grabbing a set of heads at the scrap yard - can't keep up with his new 1300hp Shelby for shit though 😂😅
The pressure rating on the tire is just the maximum pressure the tire can take. The proper pressure for the vehicle is usually printed on the driver door jam.
I have one one these just sitting in my garage.
yep!!
Did Joe Elmore seriously just say that Chevy's TBI wasn't bad for the time? Jesus, Mary and Joseph Stalin!
They also don't know the difference between recommended and max tire pressure so...
@@yeahitskimmel more pressure = better mpg
basshead more pressure=more wear=more money
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@@zanechiles7302 not neccesarily. To low or 2 high causes wear but if within parameters the differences would be negligible
I'm putting in a 383 600 horsepower in my 84 Z28 this thing is a beast I spent ten thousand even a new rear end
If you use the max pressure embossed on tires you have way over filled the tires. Pressure and sizes are printed on a label on the door jam.
But you will get better MPG at 44psi than 35 I bet
My favourite car
They should used an old Iroc dual air cleaner assembly and cut it out for cold air, much easier & cheaper PLUS it looks much better stock.