Full Build: Squeezing Maximum Power Out Of A Tired 1986 Camaro Iroc-Z
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- Опубликовано: 29 фев 2024
- Detroit Muscle undertakes a mission to squeeze everything that they can out of a tired 1986 IROC-Z Camaro, while staying on a strict budget.
The initial condition of the car was poor, with a cracked and rough interior, as well as an underpowered engine. We started with a budget of $10,000, which included purchasing the car and making power upgrades.
The first step was to replace the anemic 305 small block engine with a nitrous huffing 350 bottom end. Then we added go fast goodies and a small nitrous kit, doubling the car's power output.
Next, we focused on the interior, which was filthy and in a state of disrepair. We removed the old seats, dash, carpet, and headliner. Transforming the entire interior for about $1,000.
For the suspension upgrades, we inspected tie rod ends, sway bar links, ball joints, and decided to replace the struts, keeping all within our budget constraint. 
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Nothing says “before COVID” better than this video. I wish I can get any car for 3 G’s
no shit
You still can. There's at least 50 camaros near me at
@@steverichardson7417 no theres not
@@steverichardson7417 Closest you can get around here for $4 grand is either a V6 firebird with a spun rod bearing or a V8 shell with no powertrain
Yep. This is from 2016
3k for a 1986 IROC that runs and drives with t-tops and has everything there… I call bs
Was made years and years ago.
There's one in pdx here for 2k that runs, and is white, but no t tops .. just gotta find the right seller
This is a pretty old episode
3K is a bit expensive. If you live in the rust belt you need to be willing to travel, you will save thousands doing so. If you plan on replacing the driveline, go for a v6 Camaro. You can very easily pick one up for $300. Then put in your preferred driveline.
These vids are about 10 years old, so yea 10 years ago about right, also probably why they slapped a card on it and didn't go fuel injection as it's much cheaper and easier nowadays
I'm 52 and totally miss these old school car shows. Brings back great memories.
😂🎉 I'm 55 and it sucks and is scary 🙀
I would've opted for an appropriate torque converter over that nitrous squeeze. That 700r4 is going to absolutely hand grenade on someone.
Depends on power the IROC is making. May be ok. 💯
You’re not really using nitro at lower speeds.
here who cannot buy that kind of stuff, but loves to see those great builds !
That stock header back exhaust is killing it
I was thinking the exact same thing. That exhaust system has tons of twist and turns.
Not only that it doesnt need 248 degrees of cam duration - Thats why it has a torque peak at 4000 and HP is flat from 4500 to 5000. SMH
at minimum 25-30 HP wheel at most probably up to 50
Long tube headers where. They must think we are stupid. My hands were never that clean doing all that work😂😂😂
When does the Turbo kicks in ?? ;-)
That dude flattened all the threads on that brand new shock lol
Yeah I seen that too !!!!
LOL
Crossthreaded them as soon as I saw that scrolled down to the comments LOL and you are the first one. Funny thing is we've all done it but got to let them know about it!
@38:34 Yeah, that shock is messed up.
Lol saw that too. Just like when they were pulling the seats eek! Def left some new scratches on the cills.
$3k for that IROC? On what planet? No freaking way. This show is pure fantasy.
and pure bullshit, yanking off the EFI for a carburetor.
This is years old lmao . There a dime a dozen.
@@pooky24197 not in that shape for that price. Wtf are you smoking?
It can be done. People are slowly getting the picture that the broken down shitbox in their back yard that hasn't seen asphalt nor even been registered in twenty years is not a $20k classic. Those 80's Z-28's were a dime a dozen just like Fox body Mustangs and many others yet I still hear that age old line from sellers that think sentimental value always adds 700% to the price. "This car is a classic" and "all it needs is......." and so forth. The list of those who are willing to spend $10k for a $2k car and then dump another $10k to $15k (or more) to have it restored/restomoded are few and far between and are dwindling by the day. I've built many old cars since the early 80's. More then 100 in all. It's a great hobby if you can find a car/truck that's save able and doesn't cost a fortune just to aquire.
For real, can't touch a clean IROC for under $5K.
Cars were much better looking back then.
Just about everything was better back then.
Cars had more character back then but for the most part they are wayyyyyy better now. New cars seldom break down, they have double, triple and quadruple the power, way better gas mileage, they hardly pollute, they have better, heat, AC, seats, anti rust qualities, safety, comfort, etc. etc.etc. and we are not constantly having to work on them. Some vehicles are lemons but overall there is no comparison.
I thought the cars of the day were junk at the time.
@@montyrayza7220 , et al, I would call your comments as junk, but at least junk can be recycled and still serve a purpose, unlike your comments.
My best friend in Highschool got an identical IROC to the one on this show for his graduation gift from his Grandpa. Dang that was an awesome car. It's still my favorite Camero of all time. Wish I had the money to do a restomod IROC.
I had an 89'. Black w/Grey guys. T-TOPS, L98 350TPI, 4 wheel disc brakes. Chip, SLP Catback 3" exhaust. K&N, Had two 12's hooked up to a Precision Power Pro-Mos 450. Mb Quart mids and tweeters, with an Alpine deck and Alpine 6disc. Started overheating and i couldnt get it to stop. Turns out I was missing the lower valence that directs air to the radiator. It was pretty fast for back in the day. I think the SLP package from Summit took it from 225hp to prob 285hp. Which is laughable these days but at the time it was one of the fastest cars in the area. Now stock Civics would smoke it lol. Loved that car. Wish I still had it. Would love a 3rd Gen build.
Plenty bk then though! IROC 350 was a blast. Now my '22 Edge ST AWD w/excellent gen2 -2.7L twin turbo V6 has 335hp mated to 8spd tranny. 💯
I had a 92 transam GTA with a L98 350 TP. It would eat mustang 5.0 for breakfast and lunch lol. I also had a 78 bandit with a 403 big block that after a lot of work and money would smoke anything on the road back in the early 2000s.
@@garyswift83crappy Olds engine, cast iron 2 bolt main, pistons, I would have gone with a SD455 for that kind of money. Don't feel bad, I wasted $$$ on a 305 tpi. V8's sure are disappearing, only Ford is left now.
Dang, that was at least 100 HP less than i figured for the parts you added. An L31 Vortec with stock Vortec slightly ported heads and Bee Hive springs etc. and thin felpro 1094 .015" head gaskets to bump compression and improve quench should be close to 10-1 compression add a manifold and a LT1/LT4 Lunati 2008072 roller cam and Morel Lifters a 750 holley and long tubes will get you to 400+ HP NA and no nitrous needed, with AFR heads you should be close to 440 HP. Then you would have had a real tire fryer that sounds very nice.
This thing needs a DP Holley 750.. and some pipes.
I was thinking the exact same thing l31 vortec block even with the iron head
Yeah, but then that poor T5 will grenade the moment you stomp on it. You end up having to do a lot more once you get not far above stock HP & torque with a T5. Then you need to question which rear end is in that particular Camaro. If it came with the 10 bolt, it will be a race between the trany or the rear blowing up first. Which negates the whole $10K budget they had for this car. You will spend a ton of money supporting that 400 HP.
@@williamallen7836 It's an Auto .. but yer right about the 10 bolt and if it had a T5
Its easy to talk future to a 15 year old video 😂
i had a black IROC in high school. It was such a piece of crap that I took auto shop to learn how to repair it. best decision ever. seriously learned a lot and a skill. i did a swap like this in the 90s...eventually i got a 90 LX 5.0 notchback and the mustang was a superior car...
Lol I did the same thing!
Superior HOW? The Mustang was a giant POS in comparison. The Camaro has a MUCH better chassis, MUCH better suspension, more aerodynamic, and well...SBC for the win. Only the rear on the fox was better than the base Fbody rear. I bought an 89 IROC new, and after I moved to FL got a 91 fox GT. Night and day. I was sooo disappointed. The camaro would cruise at 150mph solid, smooth with no problems. At 125 in the GT the window frames had air sucking noises and it was unstable as hell!
@@JViello 150 MPH 😂😂😂 okay Goober 👍
@@ricksmith7659 I don't understand, what's the issue with a modded 5.7 doing that?? The 5.7 Camaro cruised at 150 stock no problem. Incredibly stable actually. Speed runs at night on rural empty highways are a thing you know. The car in my profile pic with the large turbo hanging off it goes a tad bit past that..."Goober"
@@JViello Total BS , 1990 Mustang GT was the best car I ever owned , blew the doors off Camaro's in those days . The Iroc's were the last Camaro that actually looked good I'll give them that .
Everyone dogs on the 305 for its horsepower. The torque is where these succeed.
Played right, you can squeeze some RPMs in there too.
The 305 has less torque then a 350…..
The torque is equally bad for a 5lt engine. It's pathetic.
@@joshkrause2977 well yeah it does it’s also got 45 less cubic inches
If I wanted high torque, then I would have a tow truck. The horsepower is important as well.
I purchased an 86 Camaro0 off the dealers floor and lowered it with just 13 miles on it. Added a 1st gen prom chip and graphics. Participated in some of the events at the 87-88-89 Car Craft nationals in Sacramento...
No you didn’t. Show proof
@@webberfan1234 LOL, you Tube will not allow me to show pics of the car & events. Show me proof you really want to see.
Damn! Had an 87” same IROC. Awesome handling car for the era.
1987 Trans Am with the Vette 350 FI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dude, they handled terrible! infamous poor handling.
I have always loved the soft yellow on 3rd gens.
Someone at GM must have agreed with you, when the IROC was rolled out all the first year press cars I saw were this color. It looks great-- and I'm a Foxbody guy!
When I was a kid this was one of my favorite cars
Powernation 2, I' m really glad I found your show on RUclips...I use to watch Powernation every Sunday. There was 4 half hour shows and that was the only shows that I made sure to watch every week.
Loved this car!!! A guy in high school got one brand new in canary yellow with limo tint! Yes he was the coolest dude in school. And then a girl got a white Monte Carlo SS and another guy got a 300 Z! I was a jealous young man!!! lolol
When all you can do is ride off into the sunset in that moldy yellow skool bus..lol Those dang rich parent kids..
I detailed a ton of these IROC’s back in the ‘80’s-‘90’s. I always made the headlight surrounds shine like glass.
👍
You're thinking of a different car . The Camaro doesn't have them
@@Chris-ev7xo
Get lost Kid.
You stripped the HELL out of that shock! 38:34
Tuff stuff and a scrub brush work like magic. Ive washed out 20 year old Pepsi stains.
its not that good.
Gotta love the G&R instrument only background music. Very fit for this build, lol.
Good call! I noticed this also! "Paradise City" I believe. I had a gf who loved GNR and I loved her so I heard this CONSTANTLY back then, lol
Good call!
Its just a LITTLE bit off tho...instumental and slightly out of tune w/different solo's. 😂 Sounded great tho.
So that's what it was - had a familiar feeling :D Just a little bit off to avoid copyright issues :D :D
Oh man… You had me hooked right up until the part where I found out you were adding nitrous. God I wish it wasn't nitrous equipped.
It's not your car.
@@ekscalybur And that somehow shields it from justified criticism? Nitrous is an absolute dogshit mod for any car.
@@centralscrutinizer6108 Who said it was shielded from criticism? OP went beyond criticizing it to saying someone shouldn't do whatever the hell they want to their own car. There would be no issue if he stopped at "...had me hooked right up until the part where I found out you were adding nitrous."
As for it being dogshit, over a century of use really puts a dent in that argument. But that just shows you're just like the OP, if YOU don't like it, no one else is supposed to either.
Child.
@@ekscalybur Dumb argument. If you disagreed with his statement just say that. Opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one, get over it. Just saying "iTs NoT yOuR cAr" and "itS nOt fOr yOu" is such an annoying non-argument just because you're offended by it.
It would’ve been cooler to keep the tuned port injection set up
My red and white t-top IROC Z 28, had a 350 in it and hauled ass, pretty sure it was a 86 . Without a doubt the best body style and interior.
Thanks guys!! Watching this took me back in the days when I bought my very first T-Tops Z28!!
350ci, 195cc aluminum heads, .550 lift cam, 225whp? Ouch… I was thinking at least 350whp through that anemic exhaust and auto trans.
I would be less than impressed after all that work.
I had an almost new '86 Iroc, it's tpi 305 was rated at 215 hp. The crappy heads wouldn't let the engine rev above 5,000 rpms. The tranny shift point was 5500.
That car ws a real pos, warranty claims totaled over 5K in 1988-89. The car was stolen and trashed, my ins paid me twice what I paid for it.
Thank you, guys.
Im currently building a 86 Iroc with full suspension from BMR & UMI along with a Currie 9" and a 418 sbc with brodix cnc ported heads
Let us (me) what it makes on the dyno.. ;)
One of my favorite builds!
Third-gen F-body = 😊
Sure, they might be a bit rattly, but look good and are fun to drive. Not to mention great aftermarket support and loads of nostalgia. There were a zillion of these on the road when I was a whipper-snapper.
They weren't the best built cars, were they? We had an 86 when it was new. Between the Mustang and Camaro of the day, the Mustang was a better built car. It just wasn't a great looking car, and would get smoked by a 5.7 Camaro.
yea that stock exhaust is killing the power numbers for sure . we have a 92 25th anniversary were working on that we put a 355 in with wp sportsman 2 heads ( cant remember the cam but its choppy.) 650 carb and a really nice set of ceramic coated long tube headers backed by the stock t5 with a mccloud clutch disc ... can promise you guys this thing was laying rubber into 3rd and it wouldnt let up
yeah, but this is budget build. I think they are trying to stay in $10,000 with everything the cost of car and all the work. with a new exhaust they sure would been over
@funtyes1970 and I totally get that. Could still budget the exhaust though. Stainless shorty headers aren't very expensive anymore
@@muddymikey3If the piss-poor quality didn't clue you in, this is ancient & being posted for ad money.
I had an 87 IROC TTOP car.. Red with the gold package.. Very beautiful and harder to find now.. Jasper 350 5.7 man I miss it
I wish they’d bring back t-tops. I miss the days of water dripping on you if it was raining or you went through the car wash.
Awesome build, thanks for sharing!!
Dang who hammer the intake runners 😂?
👀😬 Saw that at the jump, too.
I seen that, I was wondering what the hell happened there are two
And why!!!!!
@@markg7030 I almost think it was done to make less hp on the dyno run.
I love the simplicity of 80s cars vs today....
I owned a red 89 with the larger diameter wheels. It was loaded with every option, including the 5.7. I sold it in 2000 and still miss it!
What I love about this? Notice the music in the background... Ac/Dc, GnR, etc. Back to the 80s! 😎
They wanted parricide city so bad at the end lol
@@LYC_44 Yeah! 😅
lol awesome video. Love the "A-Team"ish background music for a little bit.
Great episode, I love the Gen 3's😎
Dude said there they would get 100 horsepower out of the bottle and only got 30. They gave up pretty quick and like others have mentioned the stock exhaust is killing it.
They de tuned that thing massively. Should be closer to 400NA. Others have pointed out that they are probably trying to protect the trans and rear end.
Yes They DEFINITELY AREN'T Tuning The Whole Package Enough .
Also ...
YES ...
They
DEFINITELY
NEED To REPLACE THE ENTIRE Exhaust System From The Heads Of The Engine And ALL The Way Back ...
With A FULL Flowmater Or Walker ,
Or Other COMPLETE Exhaust System .
INCLUDING The
Headers .
ALSO ...
DEFINITELY
NEED
TO PUT
4 : 30 OR
4 : 56 Gears in the rear end Too !
Man that's a HELL of a budget job! Ya'll are using that budget SUPER intelligently.
Damned great job indeed!
In highschool i loved gapping these with my 87gt 🦊 body good times
The Mustang GT was the king back then. Lol. Grand National as well.
LOL, I remember when the IROKs were released, I used to eat their lunch in my '68 Olds Cutlass!
I did the same with my '85 Fox.
I eat their lunch in my 4th Gen LS1 but still love third gen.
You weren't getting past my 89 that I bought new off the showroom floor. It didn't take much to get them to run. Never, ever had any problems with a fox, and I went against some nasty ones. 3rd gen was one of the most underrated cars of the 80's. Best looking too. (Although I did have a soft spot for the GN.)
Yeah, but nothing but a Vette could stay with them on the twisties. I had a half-dozen BMW's try to stay with my '87 on a cloverleaf, and five of them slid off the road or did a 180 behind me. LOL!
@@nephetula Absolutely! I honestly think that was some of it's downfall. They made it too Vette like and not enough pony car. That's what drove a lot of people to the Fox Mustang. In 2010 I think they understood that and made the 5th/6th gen blvd pony cars for sure. (That just happened to keep up wtih Vettes too. LOL)
This season 3 aired January 10th 2016. Man how fast times have changed.
I had a Black 1986 IROC with a 5 speed- Flowmaster exhaust, stage 2 computer chip & K&N air filter. Loved it!
These guys are doing the Lord's work.
Thanks for explaining this. Hopefully they get it corrected
We had a lot of good times in our 3rd gen. I miss that car.
now just add the stereo system and you're GOLD
Thanks for the supercut!
Camshaft, aluminum heads, and NOS. To not break 300 at the wheels is kinda anemic with what was spent. Imo
It's because they ditch the efi, and added a poorly tuned carb. The efi on these was actually pretty good, and can be built on cheaply & easily. Old guys just can't seem to understand that carb's have their limits.
Its not the carb limiting power, it's the cam. LSA of 112º is way off
@@geoffw86 it's both. Even if they had a better camshaft, efi produces higher power output with lesser fuel used. Dial in your efi, and you will make more power with no other changes. My 1968 F100 was running perfect when I converted to a TBI setup back in 2003. It made more power & made a big improvement in mpg. 6 mpg to 15 mpg. Yeah mpg sucked on those old big blocks. It's time for an engine rebuild, and I will be converting to a mpfi sequential fire. Just to see if I can improve upon it.
@williamallen7836 hi, well tuned efi definitely will help with fuel mileage. On the dyno, at full throttle, a well tuned carb or efi makes not much difference in terms of peak power. Love efi myself so don't take me wrong. 112 LSA leaves so much potential power on the table that it makes me wonder what criteria was used in specifying the cam. BTW, not an expert, enthusiastic amateur here 😊
@@geoffw86 But that's ware people get mislead. Unless you plan on trailering the car & just driving the car at the drag strip, you are not going to be spending much time at WOT at high RPMs all that often. Down in the normal ranges of average driving, and even spirited or aggressive driving, efi will perform much better. LSA is but one aspect of camshaft. All of which can be equally important, and involve a given & take to achieve an end goal. Unfortunately they did not cover their reasoning for going with that camshaft. Their choice of wanting to run a 150 shot of nitrous may have played into it.
I had two of these at the same time (both 305's) I was going to use one for parts, and build the other. A guy with a 1993 black cobra #666 of 4993 wanted both Iroc's, so I gave him $8k and the camaros for the cobra. I wish I still had them all since the price has went insane, oh well that's life, great episode!
Man, these American cars were so practical and easy to work on!
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Iroc-Z
A third gen in that clean condition isn't such a deal anymore. The price of all 4th gen and earlier F-bodys has gone insane.
I enjoyed this video immensely. Nice job on the resto.
Awesome car. Love that you guys did a budget build for most of us out there with limited resources👍🤟
Nice build guys. Future upgrades would be exhaust, stroker kit and forced induction. Sweet ride!!!
Take it out and slide it around some corners I had one exactly like that same color back in the day and I slid it around every corner in the county at least once. 👍
A screw jack on the pan to hold the transmission up. You can see it push in. I guess in the long run you'll need one less quart of fluid so that's a money saver.
Did you see the rear shock nut he just impacted on? It stripped the hell out of the threads I had to pause and rewind
@@Davespackey 38:34
LOL.... right?
@@DavespackeyThat's just natural loctite.
@@TexasGTO"Sometimes it helps to have a buddy up top to screw the nut down". I guess if your friend isn't a Gorilla or have a impact wrench set at 250 Lb / ft.
Great build. Sniper efi and lowering shocks are the only thing it was missing.
I had the '87 with a 350 in it. I miss that car and my hair.
🤣 and my hair 🤣
I had an 86 IROC with t tops. I loved driving that car.
Your guy up top stripped out those brand new shocks @38:34. lol
Back in 1991 I bought a black 1986 IROC-Z with grey interior and stripes when I was 20. Had a blast with it but hated losing to mustang gts lol. I wish I was mechanically incline to add some power and torque to that 305 TPI.
Rear shocks on a 1988 convertible Camaro is a pain in the ass!
Yeah, bring in the mullets while you're at it.
Such a dope ride. Love the third gens.
Is it possible to keep the TPI setup and get more power of you your small block 350?
yeah, easy.
38:33 look at that screw lol
Lmao talking about the threads on the top of the shock he just cross threaded ?? Uggguuuduuuuggggaaaaa
Fun videos for an old gear head like me to watch. Always amazed you guys can pull and engine and do a rebuild and dyno within an hour. Takes me much longer lol.
I could pull an engine in a week, reassemble a short block I already bought and took apart, nd take another week to get it back in.
With all the trick flow high pro parts you through at it, I thought you'd see higher #'s on the dino but it still looks great and you stayed within your budget
Gorgeous Iconic car. IMHO, doesn't even need to be all that fast! (Did I just say that??)
where is caprice?((
The iroc car is amazing
Back in the 70’s my family had a used Corvette-only car lot. My dad would spend 30 minutes on one spot getting the paint looking as good as possible, then as he walked away say okay now make the rest of the car look that good. This was before the base coat clear coat system and all the new paint cleaning and polishing technologies that we have today. I was 13 at the time and wet sanding and buffing a car was the last thing I wanted to be doing, I had kid stuff to do.
This was a great episode 😎
I've always admired TechNecks.
I had a j,86 Z28. Replace the T-Top gaskets. The roof has a tendency to leak.
!its funny i had one it was the best you can get back then !!
So, no money for a pinion seal or at least a shift kit?
I had a 1986 Z28 with the 5 speed manual transmission and I sure thought it was fast back then. It was fun to drive. You could smoke the tires off and slide it's ass around whenever you wanted. 5th gear always broke in those trannies though. I had mine replaced once.
Canary yellow! I know they have to make commercials for summit racing and others, but I was not impressed with the front seats.... they looked like 160 dollar seats..... I graduated hs in 82, and I think these camaros are the perfect platform to use to make a hot rod with.... modern enough to be able to retrofit alot of go fast/suspension parts etc without breaking the bank...
@@majortolleson7976 I always loved the look of that tunes port injection. I wanted to get an engine from one of these cars and put it in my Chevy Colorado or my S10 Extreme. Good enough power and a really cool looking induction system. I had the Z28 and also had a Berlinetta with the 350ci engine.
Binge watching this channel. It’s so cool. It’s like a live Magazine. The coolest Car tv show style. Bitchin’
3rd Gen camaros... one of my TOP TWO favorite cars of all time!!!
I love how they took welcome to the jungle but changed it a little so no copyright. Lol
That’s a 100% reality in the construction business right now. 😂
That Camaro is beautiful, really? The best of its class. I don't see none on the road these days. #Camaro #ClassicCar #BeautyOnWheels 🚗💨
I had one, I miss that sucker. Don't miss the leaky t tops though. And the chairs were awfully low, now that I think about it, lol. I'm 6'3" and could barely see over the dash.
Enjoyed!!!!! 🤜🤛
Great Video and fun to watch. IROC Camaro .... very cool car.
Yeah! Baby 👶 whooooo!!!! We got a tiny budget of around $500,000 with some elbow grease and equipment worth more than your house 🏠 we will bring this old boy back to life 👍.
I want to now what they do to the car .After they finish built the cars do they sell them. And how can you buy one from them
I wish that car had the factory hood, I hate raised cowl hoods
I wish I did not have to sell my 91 Z28 back when I was 20 years old. I would of loved to have a project car now to work on and it would of been perfect because you can work on those older cars a lot easier then the ones today.
I would have shampood the insides and used epoxy to make a dash replica and then used the rest of the $10k on the suspension engine transmission rear end and drive shaft.
I was a kid when this car was new. A friend put a Lingenfelter engine in his and the WHOLE car started to twist due to the lack of a solid structure. It got so bad he could not open and close the drivers door.
The Mullet Bullet?! #loveit 😂❤