Was at a car show yesterday, surprised there were about 5 or 6 first year '67 Camaros there... I worked for GM in 1966, saw the '67 Camaro before it came out, thought it was perfect size for 18 year old me... like nothing I had ever seen before... except for being maybe a smaller version of '65 Impala...
Got back from Nam. upon arriving at my home in Detroit, I found out my Dad had signed by 65 GTO over to my older brother, who was driving a 67 Vette. Which he still has today. So I bought a 68 Camaro SS 375hp 396, 4 spd and limited slip. Drove it to my next duty station at Fort Ord, CA. Had it for 4 years before being broadsided and the car was totaled. One of my favorite cars.
@@shadvan9494 At least ONE went to Canada. I exported it back to Mass. USA and got to drive it: like sitting on top of a cat. At the same time I handled a showroom new Chevelle basic, 1969, but while nice , just NOT the same experience of a lifetime.
with drink sizing, tire sizes, bolt fasteners, temperature measurement, etc, welcome to the rest of the world, and the metric system! 370 million people of the 7 billion on earth, its pretty much likely Metric will win....lol.
@@gmpurist6745 This ONE person will never use metric -not interested in others' preferences - they can do as they wish and it's fine by me - I operate with my own set of values and that means Imperial Measurement system - that way for the first 60 years and will be for the following 20 or so 🙂
Although they did list a single, one off 70 1/2 Z28, I think the 70 1/2 Z's were some of the strongest Camaros ever produced. I also think they are beautiful examples as well.
Even 1970 camaros z28 are not all that rare. They made over 8000 of them in 1970 alone. Now 1970-72 big block camaros are super rare. There were 3 different 396/402 engines over 3 years. In 70 you had the L34 350HP and the L78 375HP engines. In 71 amd 72 ypu got the LS3 396/402. 300HP engine. (72 was rated at 270 but it was the same engine just using the net horsepower rating vs the 300 hp rating using the gross horsepower rating method) said and done there were less than 5000 factory big block camaros over a 3 year span.
The only two new cars I ever purchased were a Camaro and a Corvette 19 years apart. I still own them both. While I’m just an ordinary guy my damn Corvette is special and it will still be special after I’m dead.
My Uncles best friend has an original ( he bought it brand new) 1969 RS/SS Baldwin Motion Stage III Camaro with 4,500 miles on it. It has an L-78 427 Ci with a 4 speed Automatic, Side Pipies, a three tier spolier., and a L88 Hood. It is White with Black Motion Stripeing and a Black interior. It was and still is the meanest looking and sounding Camaro I have ever heard. He even has a document (that he has framed) that was given to him when he bought the car that said " If this car dosen't do 12 seconds in the quarter mile bring it back and we'll refund your money no questions asked". He never brought it back!
Back in '74 I owned a '70 Z28 with the 350/375 HP engine...NHRA said it was under rated and had it rated at 425 HP for sanctioned racing purposes. I believe NHRA was correct, I beat both SS camaro's with the L78 396/375 and the 302 Z28's and even a '69 vette with a 427. It was the fastest car I ever owned until I started buying modern Porsche GT cars.
Back in 1969 a man who owned the Sunoco gas station at Southeastern Av. and Arlington Av. on Indy's south east side bought a gold 1969 ZL-1 Camaro. I worked at the ROBO car wash on Indy's east side, and he would come in and have us go all over the car getting it cleaned up so he could cruse and street race all night. It was a true bad ass car, the only mods I remember were a set of hooker headers and 10.5 slicks mounted on his stock rims.
I had a new '70 RS/SS 396 (L34, 350 hp) AT, PB, PS, dog dish, silver with black interior. In 54 years I have never ever seen another '70 RS/SS 396 either in person, in magazines, nor on the net. Wish I had it today.
They only made 1864 L34 cars in 1970, and 600 L78 cars. In 71 they made 1533 Ls3 car and in 72 they made 970 ls3 cars. So all together there we less than 5000 factory big block car produce over 3 years. To put it in prespective, the made over 8000 z28s in 1970 alone. So second gen big block cars are ridiculously rare. I currently own a 1971 SS 396 4-speed camaro. Placer gold with black interior. No spoilers basic interior, and idiot lights. No console. An the basic 1 speaker radio. The first and second owners drag raced it nearly to death. It got most of it 70000 miles a quarter mile at a time. I restored it the first time in 98, I am currently doing a better resto on it now to get it as close to original as possible. I am missing a few pieces like the factory radiator, fan shroud, and air cleaner, and I only have 3 of the original poverty wheels and dog dish hub caps. But I keep looking for stuff to make it 100%
Ordered a new 1973 from the dealer. Rally Sport, 350 2bl, auto, red w/ blk vinyl int. No power brakes, ac, or wins. Bullet proof drivetrain. 185,000 miles.15 Michigan winters. One rocker arm replaced. 14 mpg. Ziebart delayed the inevitable; unsafe to hoist.
I have a 1986 Pontiac Trans Am auto form company 2 seat roadster convertible! They did about 1100 conversions of new cars for gm dealerships between 1984-1986. It was a $6000 option for a $14,000 car, hence the rarity! ❤😊
@BulletSpoung me too. Red w white stripes. 4.11 gears. Saw it in a field while driving down the highway. Owner rolled it in a drag race. Got it for cheap. Did all the work in my garage. had it for 15 years, then sold it. Fun car to drive.
1992 Camaro 1LE 25th anniversary never had a 6 speed manual, aluminum cylinder heads or exhaust headers not from the factory. Just the strip package and color.
My first car (in 1985) was a maroon 1967 Camaro standard. It had a 250 straight 6 with 3 on the tree and a bench seat. They must be the rarest to find these days because they were all used to build or restore RS's and SS's or just v8 swapped
I was a mechanic at a Chevrolet Dealer from 1998 2003. We were allowed to specialize in certain areas of the car. I was light line, electrical, interior trim, AC. This meant learning to fix convertible tops. Sure we had the Cavalier to practice on but teaching yourself convertible top repair, as a flat rate mechanic was tough. Heavy line mechanic took me for a ride in a 2002 SS Camaro. I was shown how much the fun increased with traction control off. I was also with BMW before and after Chevrolet. Non of these non CoPo Camaros could outperform 1998 BMW M5 and the M5 weighed a full 4000 lbs.
@goopah I had a 69 camaro v8. Someone said that I stole their car and the lapd knocked on my door. That was scary. Someone followed me home, and I didn't know it. I have a 68 chevelle and ss el camino.
I agree, the 72 Z28 was very low production. It was the first year they rated horsepower from the rear wheels - at the crankshaft it was 310HP but at the rear wheels it was 255HP. Many people don’t know that so they poo poo it. The car was bad ass, solid lifter camshaft, same camshaft as the 70z28, different heads brought it down a little in compression.
I knew someone with a 6 cylinder 3 on the tree camaro from like 76 or 77. It was special ordered like that. His uncle worked at the norwood plant in Cincinnati so he knew how to make it happen. I have never seen or heard of another one.
When I was stationed at Fitzsimmons Army Medical Center in Denver (late 80's/early 90's), I was walking from the hospital to the NCO club and saw a particularly clean looking early 2nd generation specimen. Being somewhat rare of a sight, I couldn't resist myself and went to get a closer look. I peered into the drivers side window and saw a _column_ shifter and a _bench seat!_ Thought I was in a nightmare! 🤣 You've just proven that I _wasn't._
Used to ride in a 67 with that drivetrain to high school, the chick that owned it still has it , same paint interior motor, even has a pack of rolling papers in the glove box I left there In 1992. Lol , they were for tobacco use only. 🤫
A friends mom bought a new Camero in 1967. It had a Factory Paisly landau top. The only one I ever saw. 327, turbo 350, metallic blue, maybe Nassau Blue. The landau was in blues and greens.
Not an HO from the factory in ‘82. ‘83 was the HO with the 305 L69 engine and could get the 5 speed manual. You had an LG4 305 and 4 speed manual if it was factory equipped.
Exactly. The 67-1969 Z28's were dogs on the street. The 70 Z28 was a lot better than the 302's and did well on the streets because having no torque made them easy to launch especially with the 3speed auto and even with 4;10 gears, they spin the tires for 5ft and then head for 7000 rpm's and chirp into 2nd. while big block cars just sat there burning rubber. But with cheater slicks and nothing else, the L78 Camaro would run mid 13's and the big torque made them feel much faster and more fun to drive.
❤❤❤❤ The COPO Camaro that was made for Mr. John Force was beautiful and the money donated to the teachers to get supplies for the schools and students. Know that is a true Hero in my book's. John and his family are very special people. They all deserve to be treated like Royalty the Entire family. They are a great family. God Bless the entire Force Family.
The 1967 & 1968 Camaros were available as a Rally Sport, a Super Sport and also a RS/SS. The Rally Sport had 25:52 hideaway headlights special Horn button and gas cap. R S badge on front fender. The Super Sport, no doubt came with a hipo 350 c.i. engine. Mine was a 1968 R/S came with 327 c.i. engine & the Power Glide trans.
I have had the Camaro SS 454ci here near Africa for thirty years. I didn't know what car it was, but when I saw it I fell in love and it was my dream car. 😍😍😍😍
454 was never offered factory In the camaro. Only one car made it out the door with a 454. That one was pilot car N500001 and it went to the infamous Smokey Yunick for testing and was sold to a collector in the early 2000s and was never in Africa. Baldwin-Motion on the other hand did a lot of 454 LS6 swaps and those cars are also super rare. There is a Blue 74 Motion car in Iran that I have seen pictures of. So it may be a Motion car.
@@shadvan9494 I knew that my car is a cutter, a copy-paste car, because the previous owner already told me that it has many adapted scrap pieces, I have the beautiful front part of a 1981 Camaro and the rear lights are rectangular, and from an unknown car, but looks beatiful too xD And regarding the engine, at the time I bought the same one in the photograph that appeared in the Classic industries Camaro catalog from 1997, I really don't really know because I have had it very neglected and a little bit rusty since I had the Lou Gehrig that I was diagnosed and have been in a wheelchair for years and that's why I can't restore it... For me it is the biggest heartache of my life. I'm always dreaming of driving that beauty again 😍😍
70 1/2 SS was 402ci. The factory has some blocks with bore mistakes and rebored the 396 to 402 for the camaro line. They had a split front bumper and short rear spoiler. I wish i never sold mine.
The 402 was not a bore mistake. It was cheaper to buy pistons at the 4.125 diameter size than to buy pistons at the 4.094 diameter. In the 60s gm had a ban on engines bigger than 400cid in anything but full sized cars and corvettes. So to keep the engine under 400 Cid they used a non standard size piston at 4.094 inches. And they cost more to make that a standard 4.125 inch piston. GM has always been run by bean counters. So anything to save money. They lifted the ban on engine over 400cid in midsized cars in late 1969. So they switch to the 4m125 pistons and made it a 402. But still used the SS396 branding since they spent so much money advertising it. I currently own a 1970 Camaro SS 396 4-speed. I love that car. I have had it since 1998. Also the split bumpers were the Rally Sport option. You could even get them on a online 6 if ypu order the RS package. The short spoiler was standard on 70 and 71 cars, but ypu could also get COPO 9796 tall spoiler in late 1970 and all of 71
I will take the 1970 Z Hurst Sunshine special. Ship it on to N.C. please. Nice cars listed here for sure. Still wonder where my Red 70 is setting now, AGHHH.
Didn't care for the brake torque burnouts (just about anyone can do those) Would rather of just had the sound of the cars accelerating as with a few of the videos
there were no 70 1/2s. production was delayed and didn't start until late December of 1969. GM carried on producing 69 Camaros well in to into November 1969. GM officailly calls the second generation cars 1970 Camaros and those first gens built in the august 69 through November 1969, 1969 Camaros. some car guys get hung up on the 70 1/2 thing because the 64 1/2 mustang. and since Ford did it, they need to have it too. but technically there are 1969 Camaros first gens, and 1970 Camaro Second Gens built in the 1970 model year. but GM never call them "70 1/2".
there are a few missing form this line up. specially form the 1970s. there were on 1533 SS 396 Camaros in 1971 and 970 SS396 Camaros in 72. and 1864 SS396 L34 cars in 1970. at total of 4967 big block second gen Camaros over 3 years, to put that in perspective, they made 8733 Z28s in 1970 alone. all of these big block cars are rare than the 3rd and 4th gen cars. also there was a 1970 pilot car that made it off the line and was sent to the proving grounds with a LS6 454, it end up with the legendary Smokey Yunick, and then sold to a collector. I saw it one a long time ago. it was a Norwood pilot car #500001. also, the 1975 Camaro Z86 Gymkhana suspension cars are fairly rare with only 3711 being made. 1970 & 71 AS4 deluxe rear shoulder seat belt cars are also very rare. with only 89 being made 70 and 99 being made in 71. and the 1970 and 71 COPO 9796 Spoilers all of which deserver a place on this list over anything from 1982 on, except maybe the SLP can copo 4th gen cars.
This worry about rare can often get into the realm of ridiculous, like the one '70s green with red interior Corvette. Someone probably thought it would be a good idea (Christmas colors) but it came off as pretty bad. Rare doesn't always mean desirable.
@tommissouri4871 I would agree that rare doesn't nessacaraly make it valuable or a good idea, but there is no way in hell a 70-72 big block car is not more sought after than a 82 pace car or 85 IROC. You could argue that a 75 F86 Gymkahana car is less desirable than an 85 IROC or 82 pace car. And for the most part I would agree on that. Fyi the F86 code 75 camaro was basically a Z28 with out z28.
I love my Camaro's I have 2, The 69 is bad ass but nothing super special , My 2nd is 89 IROC T- Tops The options I have are very rare & its ALL ORGINAL nothing has been replace, It has over 240K miles on it and growing ( ITS MY DAILY DRIVER )
OMG THAT 93 PACE CAR ❤❤ I have regretted giving up my 1994 Camaro, manual trans. The dealership saw me coming: I was young, I was stupid…and I was pregnant 😂 cha -Ching! $$$$$
They never made a 75 z28. In 75 they offed the F86 Gymkahana package. It was basically the Z28 package with a different name. They made about about 3700 of them. The part like sway bars and bushings and bumpstops and springs are the same as the 74 Z28
They did a lot of things behind the scenes that we never knew about so I'm always careful about saying they never did this or never made that because every year pilot cars were made to test and evaluate all kinds of ideas and most end up getting crushed. So we just don't know what they made but it's always more than gets released to the public.
Unfortunately the 1st year Camaro Z/28 had low very production numbers: if I remember correctly (reading about the history of the Camaro in specialty Camaro books) - only 201 (?) Z/28 hardtops were produced - with no Z/28 badges; and if I remember: only 1 Z/28 convertible was ever made - specifically for a GM executive (maybe John DeLorean - later he started the DeLorean). Now - if that convertible was given to a GM executive - if it had a legit VIN, and came off the assembly line as a normal production line car, then it probably still exists in a collection; OR - if the car was an engineering mule (VIN or no VIN), then it went back to GM and was dismantled or crushed, as manufacturers never sold their test card & engineering mules - including convertibles. (In a few cases with all US carmakers, a few eng'g test mules did escape out to the public.) ....
I could be wrong - but I'm not aware of any Z/28 convertibles for the public from 1967-69 first gen, & the 🤔 1970s second gen. This video mentioned one 68 Camaro Z/28 convertible for GM exec Pete Estes, I believe. Probably got a legit VIN #, and so - was never crushed. I hope it is well maintained in a collection.
@@joemvin.j3-16Pete Estes is the TOP BRASS GM Executive that was given this VERY SPECIAL Z28 convertible & it was a 1968 model instead of a 1967 !!!!!!!!!😊
Worked with a guy in late 70s who had a S28 (no rear spoiler but striped like a Z). He told me that it was a 75-76 one year only model. I was only about 13 so wasn’t sure about it being truth, but it had a lot in common with the Z.
I got sideways pulling out of a dealership back in 84 in a new L69 305 5-speed so I'd disagree a little bit with that statement. No it's not an L82 or LT1 but with the stick which had a different camshaft than the automatic that little mofo was a lot of fun.
My first car was a blue 1970 Camaro that I bought in 1986 with money I had been saving for 4 years from mowing grass, raking leaves, shoveling snow, and counting worms at a bait shop owned by a friend of my Dad. It was also a friend of my Dad who had the Camaro. The car had a 400 small block and I'm not sure if that was the original motor but that thing made awesome power. It also had what I think was called a slap shifter where you pulled up on a little t handle and pulled the shifter all the way back when ready to launch and then build up rpm's to certain point and then hold on. When it was time to shift you just hit forward on shifter and it kicked into next gear then you just repeated until you topped out. The speedo read up to 160 mph but the best I ever got out of it was 140 mph. That car had traction bars and those suckers worked well I was not quite 17 years old and it was very difficult not to get on gas hard when taking off or turning corners and turning corners was where I had problems because it would slide out sideways and when I countersteered to keep it on the road the rear would slide back the other way and it would fishtail until straightened out but sometimes while sliding from side to side when it was lined up straight the traction bars would take over and you could feel when it got traction and squatted for take off but when that happened the universal joint sounded like a shotgun blast when it exploded. I was young and stupid so instead of tailoring my driving to avoid this I started carrying extra u-joints and could have the car jacked up and u-joint swapped really fast. Until one day I couldn't get the driveshaft yoke out of transmission because it slipped a tooth. I was under that car for hours prying, beating, and cussing that thing when a friend saw me and stopped in his truck. He had some concrete blocks in his truck so we ended up chocking front wheels and choked a chain around the driveshaft and to his truck then he backed up tight against my car and floored it. It pulled right out and luckily didn't do any real damage so I could put it back together. I drove that car so hard all the time that I was constantly having to replace broken and worn parts not to mention the gas it drank. I sold it because I was having to dump every dollar I had into it and I was getting kind of afraid of my own driving recklessness and didn't want to kill or hurt anyone else or myself. Now I wish I had just been more responsible and held onto that car.
The 02 Anniversary SS SLP Camaro was a 345hp LS1. 325hp was for the Z/28. I know because I owned one. The narrator also forgot the 4 wheel steering 3rd Gen Camaro that almost made commercial production.
My dad had an 87 Convertible Camaro with a 305 carbureted. It wasn't an IROC. Special models just had Camaro on it. It was Blue / black interior. No ground effects.
I got a 1974 z28 type LT, with 74 only stripes. Firt to have aluminum bumpers last year to have small back glass,first year for full bumper. Light blue with gun metal painted rims.
I have a 2015 Green Flash edition Camaro 2SS, Chevy made 711 total 79 convertibles and the rest were coupes. Of the coupes I have 1 of 20 made without the sunroof. Pretty rare for a new Camaro.
Chevrolet made 69 ZL-1 Camaro's in 1969. Pontiac made 69 Aztecs in 2007. That would make both the same in rarity. "Rare", as shown here, is a contrived marketing practice anyone can crank out at any time. Truely rare would be a 1969 SS 350 in original condition with 75 miles on the odometer.
LOL why did they show a black firechicken on the track 😅 Can't they tell them apart? Firechicken is the ugly step sister and the Camaro is legendary 💀🤟🏻💪🏻
240 net hp to represent the number as installed in the car with a full exhaust system, air cleaner and accessories. Prior to 72 it was open headers on a dyno with zero accessories so that 240 was probably the same as that 300.
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Was at a car show yesterday, surprised there were about 5 or 6 first year '67 Camaros there... I worked for GM in 1966, saw the '67 Camaro before it came out, thought it was perfect size for 18 year old me... like nothing I had ever seen before... except for being maybe a smaller version of '65 Impala...
You're missing so many .. There are much more rare camaro's from every Gen spoken here
Got back from Nam. upon arriving at my home in Detroit, I found out my Dad had signed by 65 GTO over to my older brother, who was driving a 67 Vette. Which he still has today. So I bought a 68 Camaro SS 375hp 396, 4 spd and limited slip. Drove it to my next duty station at Fort Ord, CA. Had it for 4 years before being broadsided and the car was totaled. One of my favorite cars.
Nobody wants an effing electric camaro.
Unless it runs 9.80 @ 135 right out of dealership 😮 26:49
Or mustang……just stupid
@denisezucchelli7399 Who cares what it runs, they are a one hit wonder and boring.
EVs have NO Soul!
EV ... YAWN 🥱 don't care how fast It would be with DeWalt batteries
Didn't even mention 72 Z28 They only made 2,225 of them Lordstown Ohio walk out in April 1972 Made this car very rare Also the trans am that year...
Or the 1981 Z28 D5A, MT, EXP. Only 3025 Units Dubbed "The Canadian Special"
@@alvarsdzenis4739 or the 1995 1LE Z28 ONLY MADE 106
My dad has a 1972 Z28RS with an original vinyl roof and an original M22 transmission. They built around 500 cars with a rock crusher.
Also the 72 SS 396. They only made 970 of them that year
@@shadvan9494 At least ONE went to Canada. I exported it back to Mass. USA and got to drive it: like sitting on top of a cat. At the same time I handled a showroom new Chevelle basic, 1969, but while nice , just NOT the same experience of a lifetime.
Would've liked to have watched the video but the AI voice of the narrator is like listening to fingernails on a chalkboard.
Get used to it. It sux.
Ditto.
Dollar one hundred…
Sssshhhh!!! Don't let AI know you are badmouthing it!!!
It's everywhere, watching us...
So mute the video and activate CC...but no engine or tires noises.
Never use Liters...this is AMERICAN MUSCLE and it's measured in Cubic Inches!
Fuck yea…..hell yea…..fuck that metric system, we eat apple pie, drink Budweiser and listen to Skynyrd in 2024. I am serious.
with drink sizing, tire sizes, bolt fasteners, temperature measurement, etc, welcome to the rest of the world, and the metric system! 370 million people of the 7 billion on earth, its pretty much likely Metric will win....lol.
@@gmpurist6745 This ONE person will never use metric -not interested in others' preferences - they can do as they wish and it's fine by me - I operate with my own set of values and that means Imperial Measurement system - that way for the first 60 years and will be for the following 20 or so 🙂
Although they did list a single, one off 70 1/2 Z28, I think the 70 1/2 Z's were some of the strongest Camaros ever produced. I also think they are beautiful examples as well.
Even 1970 camaros z28 are not all that rare. They made over 8000 of them in 1970 alone. Now 1970-72 big block camaros are super rare. There were 3 different 396/402 engines over 3 years. In 70 you had the L34 350HP and the L78 375HP engines. In 71 amd 72 ypu got the LS3 396/402. 300HP engine. (72 was rated at 270 but it was the same engine just using the net horsepower rating vs the 300 hp rating using the gross horsepower rating method) said and done there were less than 5000 factory big block camaros over a 3 year span.
Show me a parts book that lists the year as a 70 1/2. The owner manual that came with my 70 Z/28 says 1970, not 1970 1/2.
News reporter came up with the 70 & half foolish name because of late production start of late February caused by tooling defects..
The LT1 first generation was a high revving under rated madman!
I Wished He Would've Mentioned The 1970 Camaro SS With The LT1 350/360!!
If they did a "Rarest Corvette"
We would here till the end of the month.
All 50 million owners claim theres is somehow rare and spaaayshell!
The only two new cars I ever purchased were a Camaro and a Corvette 19 years apart. I still own them both. While I’m just an ordinary guy my damn Corvette is special and it will still be special after I’m dead.
'83 is only rarest Corvette... after the racing SS one in '57... and Wankel engined one...
I can't handle the AI voice
My Uncles best friend has an original ( he bought it brand new) 1969 RS/SS Baldwin Motion Stage III Camaro with 4,500 miles on it. It has an L-78 427 Ci with a 4 speed Automatic, Side Pipies, a three tier spolier., and a L88 Hood. It is White with Black Motion Stripeing and a Black interior. It was and still is the meanest looking and sounding Camaro I have ever heard. He even has a document (that he has framed) that was given to him when he bought the car that said " If this car dosen't do 12 seconds in the quarter mile bring it back and we'll refund your money no questions asked". He never brought it back!
L 78 were 396'S. L 72 were 427'S.
4 speed automatic? Are you sure
@@povertybay3260 sorry was a three speed auto hes been thinking of changing it ti a 4 speed auto.
Totally missed 88 Iroc 1LE with only 4 made.
1989 there were 111 1LEs made.
Missed the 98 and 99 Z28 1LE too, only made 99 and 49 of those
And the 92 had a 5 speed not 6
Back in '74 I owned a '70 Z28 with the 350/375 HP engine...NHRA said it was under rated and had it rated at 425 HP for sanctioned racing purposes. I believe NHRA was correct, I beat both SS camaro's with the L78 396/375 and the 302 Z28's and even a '69 vette with a 427. It was the fastest car I ever owned until I started buying modern Porsche GT cars.
Back in 1969 a man who owned the Sunoco gas station at Southeastern Av. and Arlington Av. on Indy's south east side bought a gold 1969 ZL-1 Camaro. I worked at the ROBO car wash on Indy's east side, and he would come in and have us go all over the car getting it cleaned up so he could cruse and street race all night. It was a true bad ass car, the only mods I remember were a set of hooker headers and 10.5 slicks mounted on his stock rims.
Shit it was already built from the factory, lol, I would give both of em up for one
I had a new '70 RS/SS 396 (L34, 350 hp) AT, PB, PS, dog dish, silver with black interior.
In 54 years I have never ever seen another '70 RS/SS 396 either in person, in magazines, nor on the net.
Wish I had it today.
They only made 1864 L34 cars in 1970, and 600 L78 cars. In 71 they made 1533 Ls3 car and in 72 they made 970 ls3 cars. So all together there we less than 5000 factory big block car produce over 3 years. To put it in prespective, the made over 8000 z28s in 1970 alone. So second gen big block cars are ridiculously rare. I currently own a 1971 SS 396 4-speed camaro. Placer gold with black interior. No spoilers basic interior, and idiot lights. No console. An the basic 1 speaker radio. The first and second owners drag raced it nearly to death. It got most of it 70000 miles a quarter mile at a time. I restored it the first time in 98, I am currently doing a better resto on it now to get it as close to original as possible. I am missing a few pieces like the factory radiator, fan shroud, and air cleaner, and I only have 3 of the original poverty wheels and dog dish hub caps. But I keep looking for stuff to make it 100%
Ordered a new 1973 from the dealer. Rally Sport, 350 2bl, auto, red w/ blk vinyl int. No power brakes, ac, or wins. Bullet proof drivetrain. 185,000 miles.15 Michigan winters. One rocker arm replaced. 14 mpg. Ziebart delayed the inevitable; unsafe to hoist.
Thought the 1967 pace car should have been added to list. Rarely see them.
The 1969 smokey version 302 with hemi heads, 2 of the 3 built are still here and running great, I only saw 1, Reggie Jackson's,
They didn't list the 2014 Camaro Z/28 509 in 2014, and 1292 in 2015.
I have a 1986 Pontiac Trans Am auto form company 2 seat roadster convertible! They did about 1100 conversions of new cars for gm dealerships between 1984-1986. It was a $6000 option for a $14,000 car, hence the rarity! ❤😊
I owned a 69 RS, a 69 Z28, and a 1980 Z28.
Loved them all...the 69z was a beast.
I also had a 69 Z/28, dark red with white stripes, 4:88 gears, black interior with console and radio delete.
@BulletSpoung me too. Red w white stripes. 4.11 gears. Saw it in a field while driving down the highway. Owner rolled it in a drag race. Got it for cheap. Did all the work in my garage. had it for 15 years, then sold it. Fun car to drive.
Wait a 390 ci. Engine? Or 390 hp? I have never heard of a 1980s 390ci
Camaro?
Lazy script with an AI narrator. What do you expect.
Either way it's false.
Was a 396 until 1969, then was bored out .030 to 402 from 70-72.
A 390 Cubic Inch V8 Is Either AMC Or Ford!
Copo
I had a red and blk 75 camaro !! Sure wish I still had that car !!
1992 Camaro 1LE 25th anniversary never had a 6 speed manual, aluminum cylinder heads or exhaust headers not from the factory. Just the strip package and color.
If you need to use your brakes during a burnout it's NOT a real burnout
You know how stupid your comment sounds?
Burnouts are stooooopid
I don't mind a good burnout but hate seeing classic cars abused .
My first car (in 1985) was a maroon 1967 Camaro standard. It had a 250 straight 6 with 3 on the tree and a bench seat. They must be the rarest to find these days because they were all used to build or restore RS's and SS's or just v8 swapped
'84, my first yr. driving, parents got me a Frost Green '69 230 straight 6 for $1k. Still have it.
I think the old original Camaros are better than the new ones. They look more classy, but pricewise. I think it’s all a waste of money.
The 1970 Hurst Special looks like the Bumblebee car at the start of Transformers 1
Sweet rides,i owned one of the 82 z28 pace car replica, back in late eighties, it was all show and no go , they cut hp back so bad
great video 👍 1969 zl1 is my absolute favorite ❤❤
Good choice!
We don’t care
I was a mechanic at a Chevrolet Dealer from 1998 2003. We were allowed to specialize in certain areas of the car. I was light line, electrical, interior trim, AC. This meant learning to fix convertible tops. Sure we had the Cavalier to practice on but teaching yourself convertible top repair, as a flat rate mechanic was tough. Heavy line mechanic took me for a ride in a 2002 SS Camaro. I was shown how much the fun increased with traction control off. I was also with BMW before and after Chevrolet. Non of these non CoPo Camaros could outperform 1998 BMW M5 and the M5 weighed a full 4000 lbs.
I had an IROC Z28 CAMERO , sure wish I had never sold that car
*CAMARO And yes, me too.
@goopah I had a 69 camaro v8. Someone said that I stole their car and the lapd knocked on my door. That was scary. Someone followed me home, and I didn't know it. I have a 68 chevelle and ss el camino.
Also had a red 87 iroc had less than 90k miles mint . Sold it pay bills 😢
*CAMARO* please sir. Respect
Our purple 95’ Z28 6spd convertible loaded, one of 95 built. Only 12k miles.
Put some miles on it dont let it rot. Maybe not a ton made but not a sought after collectors item
Enjoy it
I will be a future collectable. Everything is
I've always liked the 3rd generation Camaro the most. It might not be the fastest but it's the most interesting looking of them all.
I have a'72 Z28 4 spd, it would have been nice to have had it mentioned !
I agree, the 72 Z28 was very low production. It was the first year they rated horsepower from the rear wheels - at the crankshaft it was 310HP but at the rear wheels it was 255HP. Many people don’t know that so they poo poo it. The car was bad ass, solid lifter camshaft, same camshaft as the 70z28, different heads brought it down a little in compression.
I knew someone with a 6 cylinder 3 on the tree camaro from like 76 or 77. It was special ordered like that. His uncle worked at the norwood plant in Cincinnati so he knew how to make it happen. I have never seen or heard of another one.
When I was stationed at Fitzsimmons Army Medical Center in Denver (late 80's/early 90's), I was walking from the hospital to the NCO club and saw a particularly clean looking early 2nd generation specimen. Being somewhat rare of a sight, I couldn't resist myself and went to get a closer look. I peered into the drivers side window and saw a _column_ shifter and a _bench seat!_
Thought I was in a nightmare! 🤣
You've just proven that I _wasn't._
Used to ride in a 67 with that drivetrain to high school, the chick that owned it still has it , same paint interior motor, even has a pack of rolling papers in the glove box I left there In 1992. Lol , they were for tobacco use only. 🤫
67. 68. 69.
BIG BLOCKS. VERY RARE.
Z 28
VERY RARE IN EXCELLENT CONDITION AND ORGINAL CONDITION. VERY RARE ALSO.
A friends mom bought a new Camero in 1967. It had a Factory Paisly landau top. The only one I ever saw. 327, turbo 350, metallic blue, maybe Nassau Blue. The landau was in blues and greens.
I owned a 82 pacecar with the 5.0 HO and 4 speed manual. I miss that car,I sold it in 94 for $7200. It had 23k actual miles 😊
Not an HO from the factory in ‘82. ‘83 was the HO with the 305 L69 engine and could get the 5 speed manual. You had an LG4 305 and 4 speed manual if it was factory equipped.
Also failed to be mentioned are the 1997 4th Gen 30th Anniversary Z4C Z28s/SS in Artic White with Hugger Orange Stripes.
1970 with the 396 please!!. 💪
Exactly. The 67-1969 Z28's were dogs on the street. The 70 Z28 was a lot better than the 302's and did well on the streets because having no torque made them easy to launch especially with the 3speed auto and even with 4;10 gears, they spin the tires for 5ft and then head for 7000 rpm's and chirp into 2nd. while big block cars just sat there burning rubber. But with cheater slicks and nothing else, the L78 Camaro would run mid 13's and the big torque made them feel much faster and more fun to drive.
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The COPO Camaro that was made for Mr. John Force was beautiful and the money donated to the teachers to get supplies for the schools and students. Know that is a true Hero in my book's. John and his family are very special people. They all deserve to be treated like Royalty the Entire family. They are a great family. God Bless the entire Force Family.
The 1967 & 1968 Camaros were available as a Rally Sport, a Super Sport and also a RS/SS. The Rally Sport had 25:52 hideaway headlights special Horn button and gas cap. R S badge on front fender. The Super Sport, no doubt came with a hipo 350 c.i. engine. Mine was a 1968 R/S came with 327 c.i. engine & the Power Glide trans.
I have a 68 rs/SS matching numbers 350 4speed with 115k original miles
I’ve always wanted an 02 Anniversary car they are so pretty.
I have had the Camaro SS 454ci here near Africa for thirty years. I didn't know what car it was, but when I saw it I fell in love and it was my dream car. 😍😍😍😍
454 was never offered factory In the camaro. Only one car made it out the door with a 454. That one was pilot car N500001 and it went to the infamous Smokey Yunick for testing and was sold to a collector in the early 2000s and was never in Africa. Baldwin-Motion on the other hand did a lot of 454 LS6 swaps and those cars are also super rare. There is a Blue 74 Motion car in Iran that I have seen pictures of. So it may be a Motion car.
@@shadvan9494 I knew that my car is a cutter, a copy-paste car, because the previous owner already told me that it has many adapted scrap pieces, I have the beautiful front part of a 1981 Camaro and the rear lights are rectangular, and from an unknown car, but looks beatiful too xD
And regarding the engine, at the time I bought the same one in the photograph that appeared in the Classic industries Camaro catalog from 1997, I really don't really know because I have had it very neglected and a little bit rusty since I had the Lou Gehrig that I was diagnosed and have been in a wheelchair for years and that's why I can't restore it...
For me it is the biggest heartache of my life. I'm always dreaming of driving that beauty again 😍😍
22:20 Baldwin Motion also upgraded Vegas with the same 427/ Muncie combo they used in everything else
❤I had a 1970 one,most guys were interested in the car. I kept it clean and got a great resale for it. Wish I would have kept it till now.
Show us the 66 camera with 396
I've got a 1982 but it's not a Indy
Great Cars!
70 1/2 SS was 402ci.
The factory has some blocks with bore mistakes and rebored the 396 to 402 for the camaro line. They had a split front bumper and short rear spoiler.
I wish i never sold mine.
The 402 was not a bore mistake. It was cheaper to buy pistons at the 4.125 diameter size than to buy pistons at the 4.094 diameter. In the 60s gm had a ban on engines bigger than 400cid in anything but full sized cars and corvettes. So to keep the engine under 400 Cid they used a non standard size piston at 4.094 inches. And they cost more to make that a standard 4.125 inch piston. GM has always been run by bean counters. So anything to save money. They lifted the ban on engine over 400cid in midsized cars in late 1969. So they switch to the 4m125 pistons and made it a 402. But still used the SS396 branding since they spent so much money advertising it. I currently own a 1970 Camaro SS 396 4-speed. I love that car. I have had it since 1998. Also the split bumpers were the Rally Sport option. You could even get them on a online 6 if ypu order the RS package. The short spoiler was standard on 70 and 71 cars, but ypu could also get COPO 9796 tall spoiler in late 1970 and all of 71
@@shadvan9494 THANK YOU!
I will take the 1970 Z Hurst Sunshine special. Ship it on to N.C. please. Nice cars listed here for sure. Still wonder where my Red 70 is setting now, AGHHH.
Thank you!
Didn't care for the brake torque burnouts (just about anyone can do those)
Would rather of just had the sound of the cars accelerating as with a few of the videos
If I'm not mistaken the 1970 Camaro you featured is actually a 1970 and a half.
The orange one was an rs and not the rs/ss either. But yes 70.5
If you're that picky, then there were no 70s.
there were no 70 1/2s. production was delayed and didn't start until late December of 1969. GM carried on producing 69 Camaros well in to into November 1969. GM officailly calls the second generation cars 1970 Camaros and those first gens built in the august 69 through November 1969, 1969 Camaros. some car guys get hung up on the 70 1/2 thing because the 64 1/2 mustang. and since Ford did it, they need to have it too. but technically there are 1969 Camaros first gens, and 1970 Camaro Second Gens built in the 1970 model year. but GM never call them "70 1/2".
I had a 1971 with 396 w/4-speed and I had the 1993 pace car and the pace cars may have been the only 93 with a t-top.
Discussing muscle cars and using the term "liters" should be illegal.
A Camaro video but at 3:05 they show a Firebird ...
Bought a 1980 Z28 brand new. Loved that car. Always liked the first and second gen the best. Didn’t really get into the third gen
One off Camaros I didn't know existed !
there are a few missing form this line up. specially form the 1970s. there were on 1533 SS 396 Camaros in 1971 and 970 SS396 Camaros in 72. and 1864 SS396 L34 cars in 1970. at total of 4967 big block second gen Camaros over 3 years, to put that in perspective, they made 8733 Z28s in 1970 alone. all of these big block cars are rare than the 3rd and 4th gen cars. also there was a 1970 pilot car that made it off the line and was sent to the proving grounds with a LS6 454, it end up with the legendary Smokey Yunick, and then sold to a collector. I saw it one a long time ago. it was a Norwood pilot car #500001. also, the 1975 Camaro Z86 Gymkhana suspension cars are fairly rare with only 3711 being made. 1970 & 71 AS4 deluxe rear shoulder seat belt cars are also very rare. with only 89 being made 70 and 99 being made in 71. and the 1970 and 71 COPO 9796 Spoilers all of which deserver a place on this list over anything from 1982 on, except maybe the SLP can copo 4th gen cars.
This worry about rare can often get into the realm of ridiculous, like the one '70s green with red interior Corvette. Someone probably thought it would be a good idea (Christmas colors) but it came off as pretty bad. Rare doesn't always mean desirable.
@tommissouri4871 I would agree that rare doesn't nessacaraly make it valuable or a good idea, but there is no way in hell a 70-72 big block car is not more sought after than a 82 pace car or 85 IROC. You could argue that a 75 F86 Gymkahana car is less desirable than an 85 IROC or 82 pace car. And for the most part I would agree on that. Fyi the F86 code 75 camaro was basically a Z28 with out z28.
I love my Camaro's I have 2, The 69 is bad ass but nothing super special , My 2nd is 89 IROC T- Tops The options I have are very rare & its ALL
ORGINAL nothing has been replace, It has over 240K miles on it and growing ( ITS MY DAILY DRIVER )
Didnt even mention the 1968 SS396 MT1 less than 200 MT1 cars were sold by GM across all models and brands
01-02 Camaro 1LE. My 01 is only 1 of 6 made with T-Tops. 32 hard tops were made. Every 1LE had to be sent back out to SLP after delivery
OMG THAT 93 PACE CAR ❤❤ I have regretted giving up my 1994 Camaro, manual trans. The dealership saw me coming: I was young, I was stupid…and I was pregnant 😂 cha -Ching! $$$$$
What about the one Z28 that was produced in 1975?It was supposedly given to a GM executive or was crushed
They never made a 75 z28. In 75 they offed the F86 Gymkahana package. It was basically the Z28 package with a different name. They made about about 3700 of them. The part like sway bars and bushings and bumpstops and springs are the same as the 74 Z28
They did a lot of things behind the scenes that we never knew about so I'm always careful about saying they never did this or never made that because every year pilot cars were made to test and evaluate all kinds of ideas and most end up getting crushed. So we just don't know what they made but it's always more than gets released to the public.
Loved my 69 Z and i liked my 72 SS.
Im taking the 1970 big mouth bass Camaro 🔥
1967 z28 convertible #1
Unfortunately the 1st year Camaro Z/28 had low very production numbers: if I remember correctly (reading about the history of the Camaro in specialty Camaro books) -
only 201 (?) Z/28 hardtops were produced - with no Z/28 badges;
and if I remember: only 1 Z/28 convertible was ever made - specifically for a GM executive (maybe John DeLorean - later he started the DeLorean).
Now - if that convertible was given to a GM executive -
if it had a legit VIN, and came off the assembly line as a normal production line car, then it probably still exists in a collection;
OR - if the car was an engineering mule (VIN or no VIN), then it went back to GM and was dismantled or crushed, as manufacturers never sold their test card & engineering mules - including convertibles. (In a few cases with all US carmakers, a few eng'g test mules did escape out to the public.) ....
I could be wrong - but I'm not aware of any Z/28 convertibles for the public from 1967-69 first gen, & the 🤔 1970s second gen.
This video mentioned one 68 Camaro Z/28 convertible for GM exec Pete Estes, I believe. Probably got a legit VIN #, and so - was never crushed. I hope it is well maintained in a collection.
@@joemvin.j3-16Pete Estes is the TOP BRASS GM Executive that was given this VERY SPECIAL Z28 convertible & it was a 1968 model instead of a 1967 !!!!!!!!!😊
69 rs/ss,zl1.1979 z28,split bumper camaro,exorcist Hennessey my favs.
5th Gen Z/28????
That's the wrong rear spoiler on the 1970 sunshine
Optional in '70-'71
17:26 . . . "CI" stands for "cubic inches", that's the way to say it
Yess the iroc z with the 5 star rims is still fire
Worked with a guy in late 70s who had a S28 (no rear spoiler but striped like a Z). He told me that it was a 75-76 one year only model. I was only about 13 so wasn’t sure about it being truth, but it had a lot in common with the Z.
A 305 is nothing more than a boat anchor
I got sideways pulling out of a dealership back in 84 in a new L69 305 5-speed so I'd disagree a little bit with that statement. No it's not an L82 or LT1 but with the stick which had a different camshaft than the automatic that little mofo was a lot of fun.
I love camaros
Love Camaro
Anyone who pays 46k for an 02 anniversary is smoking crack!
My first car was a blue 1970 Camaro that I bought in 1986 with money I had been saving for 4 years from mowing grass, raking leaves, shoveling snow, and counting worms at a bait shop owned by a friend of my Dad.
It was also a friend of my Dad who had the Camaro. The car had a 400 small block and I'm not sure if that was the original motor but that thing made awesome power. It also had what I think was called a slap shifter where you pulled up on a little t handle and pulled the shifter all the way back when ready to launch and then build up rpm's to certain point and then hold on. When it was time to shift you just hit forward on shifter and it kicked into next gear then you just repeated until you topped out. The speedo read up to 160 mph but the best I ever got out of it was 140 mph. That car had traction bars and those suckers worked well I was not quite 17 years old and it was very difficult not to get on gas hard when taking off or turning corners and turning corners was where I had problems because it would slide out sideways and when I countersteered to keep it on the road the rear would slide back the other way and it would fishtail until straightened out but sometimes while sliding from side to side when it was lined up straight the traction bars would take over and you could feel when it got traction and squatted for take off but when that happened the universal joint sounded like a shotgun blast when it exploded. I was young and stupid so instead of tailoring my driving to avoid this I started carrying extra u-joints and could have the car jacked up and u-joint swapped really fast. Until one day I couldn't get the driveshaft yoke out of transmission because it slipped a tooth. I was under that car for hours prying, beating, and cussing that thing when a friend saw me and stopped in his truck. He had some concrete blocks in his truck so we ended up chocking front wheels and choked a chain around the driveshaft and to his truck then he backed up tight against my car and floored it. It pulled right out and luckily didn't do any real damage so I could put it back together.
I drove that car so hard all the time that I was constantly having to replace broken and worn parts not to mention the gas it drank. I sold it because I was having to dump every dollar I had into it and I was getting kind of afraid of my own driving recklessness and didn't want to kill or hurt anyone else or myself. Now I wish I had just been more responsible and held onto that car.
The 02 Anniversary SS SLP Camaro was a 345hp LS1. 325hp was for the Z/28. I know because I owned one. The narrator also forgot the 4 wheel steering 3rd Gen Camaro that almost made commercial production.
My dad had an 87 Convertible Camaro with a 305 carbureted. It wasn't an IROC. Special models just had Camaro on it. It was Blue / black interior. No ground effects.
2015 2SS 1LE Track Pack, with ground effects
The 92 1LE did NOT have a 6-speed trans, they had a Borg Warner T5. I owned one.
What about the 1981 turbo Z Camaros that Don Yenko sold ???
I got a 1974 z28 type LT, with 74 only stripes. Firt to have aluminum bumpers last year to have small back glass,first year for full bumper. Light blue with gun metal painted rims.
Love the 2002 chevy camaro ss 35th anniversary edition
9:49 😮😮😮😮🔥🔥🔥
What about the 68 Nicky 427 4-speed two four barrels carbs
That's not a factory stock car. It's a dealer hot rod car.
@@HiTechOilCo Well, so was Baldwin Motion and Yenko.
77 Camaro
79 Bandit Edition T/A
83 Monte Carlo
2001 Monte Carlo
2005 Monte Carlo
2010 Camaro "rebirth"
2012 Camaro
2016 Camaro
2019 Camaro rn
What about a 67 or 68 Camaro with the three-on-the-tree? Couldn't have been many of those built.
I have a 2015 Green Flash edition Camaro 2SS, Chevy made 711 total 79 convertibles and the rest were coupes. Of the coupes I have 1 of 20 made without the sunroof. Pretty rare for a new Camaro.
That's a Firebird at 3:04-3:08
Chevrolet made 69 ZL-1 Camaro's in 1969. Pontiac made 69 Aztecs in 2007. That would make both the same in rarity. "Rare", as shown here, is a contrived marketing practice anyone can crank out at any time. Truely rare would be a 1969 SS 350 in original condition with 75 miles on the odometer.
A 69 Camaro Convertible original 6 cylinder is rare also.
There was also a special 1969 Z28 built for skier Jean Claude Killy
International Race Of Clones?????
Not one mention of the 1969 SS/RS/Z-28 with the 302 cui small block. They're pretty rare. I've only seen 1 or 2 of them.
An SS and Z/28 together? I would say that's impossible. The RS with either was of course possible but not all three together.
Surprised the 96 lt4 cars weren't mentioned.
LOL why did they show a black firechicken on the track 😅 Can't they tell them apart? Firechicken is the ugly step sister and the Camaro is legendary 💀🤟🏻💪🏻
You missed 1972 Z28 you should know the rarity of that car. How did you miss it?
The 1970 402 Can Be Had With 350 And 375 Horsepower. 1971 402 Was 300, And The Final Year 402 Camaro Was 240 Horsepower.
240 net hp to represent the number as installed in the car with a full exhaust system, air cleaner and accessories. Prior to 72 it was open headers on a dyno with zero accessories so that 240 was probably the same as that 300.
2014 LZ1 I have no problem blowing the doors off anything in this vid - and its stock - she eats snakes just for a snack - period