Truth. I liked it better in the books. Edmure was just made the butt monkey in the show. Got pissed when Sansa tells him off when he suggests himself as king in the final episode. I was like "Bitch, you tell him off and then YOU say you're Queen of the North?!!!"
He was hungover from drinking and crying the night before and in the books the blackfish wasn't trying to show up edmure like it seemed here which was just bad writing and written for the lolz
I love how in the books, Blackfish says there's no shame in missing his shot. Blackfish even mentions when when their father died, Hoster missed shooting their father's boat as well.
This is one of the many examples of how the beautiful story George wrote was ruined by the show's writers. Edmure might not be the brightest or most glorious of George's characters but unlike in the show he's not a stumbling punchline and his uncle is a practical veteran of war, not the unfeeling prick that he is in the show. In the books Edmure keeps missing because he cannot stop crying, this is a man who has just lost his father who he loved to the bottom of his heart. Even though it's against tradition his uncle takes the bow from his hands as a kindness even if it might stain his nephew honor as it's the lesser of the two evils. It's a sorrowful scene, not a ridicule of mourning.
@@leechristianlucht-watts8582 false. I would gladly give TWO of my shits for his complaints. First reason shits are an extremely smelly currency and the second due to a plumbing malfunction in my bathroom. To be fair I’m getting the better deal…
He's also been trained how to shoot a bow by the best in the country since a small boy. I think you would do comparable to him under the same circumstances
@@InsertTheCoin1997.....if miss, my guess is that it will float down river to the The Twins at Stone Bridge where Walder Frey will marry the corpse to one of his daughters
Honestly one of my least favorite scenes in the early show in the book the reason edmure keeps missing is because he is depressed from his father dying and instead of embarrassing him the blackfish shows compassion towards edmure and even says to catlyn that when her grand father died hoster Tully missed too
Is the only man to ever defeat Tywin Lannister in battle even though he was outnumbered, freed the Blackfish even while the castle was surrounded by a massive army, only knew his wife for a few hours and never even met his child but still cared enough to save them from a terrible death at the hands of the Lannisters, sheltered the small folk of the Riverlands within his walls because it was the right thing to do, never lost a battle, and in the books is set up to be the first man ever to seize Casterly Rock. Edmure Tully, is, ironically, one of the only characters in ASOIAF who's truly just straight good, no moral greyness here.
The show spent a lot of time softening the actions of characters who were terrible people all along, but when you have one of the few characters who could be considered a good person, they turn him into a clown.
@@georgeofhamilton What are you talking about? What in the show exactly points to their morality in any way? How do you even know what they specifically wrote, seeing as the show had dozens of writers and directors? Pretty daft to think you can summize the quality of a human being based on a television show, adapted from a book, and worked on by thousands of people.
@@Mopark25 You can tell a lot about a writer by how they try to make you feel about certain characters. If you refuse to understand that, you’re honestly probably a bot.
Always hated how shittily the show treated Edmure, acting like he's an incompetent. Book Edmure a)Missed the ship because he was barely holding it together after Hoster died. b)Went against Robbs orders because Robb didn't tell him shit about his plans to cut Tywin off in the West and that miscommunication allowed the Lannisters and Tyrells to make common cause. The show just loved making him the butt of jokes, but I liked book Edmure. He regularly cared for the smallfolk and the lords under him and tried to protect them and even let them go to defend their lands from the Lannister forces, which sets him apart from so many other lords.
Why do I feel most adaptations just do that? It's like they play lottery to decide which character to make fun of. And then, the fans of the series that don't read the original work then mistake the character for an absolute sack of stupid. This happened to Ron from Harry Potter too. I only watched HP films and I liked Ron, but then I found out his character was altered from the books, I was just disappointed. It's so malicious somehow.
Where in the books does it imply any of this your just making assumptions which you could do with the show to....all it say in the books is "hes as tight as his bowstring" implying hes nervous which this aptly represents your just making shit up...
@@thanglongnguyenvu3815 Truth! Gave all his best lines to Hermione and made him an eating obsessed fool. Even cut out a ton of his own ideas and accomplishments(his winning the House Cup when Harry, Fred and George were banned from Quidditch in OOTP, his plan to hide his going with Harry on the journey in DH by disguising his attic ghoul as him with spattergroit, etc;)
The boat was getting out of the Range of a bow, thats why Blackfish had to push Edmure aside. It would've eventually reached Kingslanding, to which Cersei would go *"WATAFA"*
I knew Blackfish was no pushover and to not be fucked with when he walked into the water with boots on. Absolute mad man not giving a shit about wet sock. Truly a remarkable man.
@@hiyukelavie2396 yes, if she show just ended with season 7 it would have been much better. Or at season 6, with them all shouting "king in the north" at Jon Snow
Blackfish is so freaking awesome. If you read the books, you see he's a huge reason behind Robb's repeated military success. Robb is a genius commander, no doubt, but he had the perfect man right there to lead the outriding forces and that was instrumental to his military victories.
He was a grumpy old bastard. A lot similar to Catelyn didn't have any wits or intelligence. Just your old school fight and die mentality. It gets demonstrated in season 6.
@@Darius0109 Dude was wrecking the Lannisters at every instance and if his uncle Edmure listened to him, he would've drawn the Lannister armies to the Riverlands, surrounded them and destroyed them, while Stannis took King's Landing. Unfortunately Edmure didn't listen, so yeah... On the battlefield, Robb is a wrecking machine, but when it comes to politics, he's terrible.
@@mightyORFEN in the books he missed because he was crying. Not to mention very hung over from the night before. He took the passing of his father hard and couldn't keep himself steady enough to shoot the bow.
@@mightyORFEN the Blackfish actually loved his family. But by this point the show was already going downhill so D&D just wanted to focus one him being a badass rather than him being a man that even though is a badass he also values his family. The Tully words are literally "Family Duty Honour".
I don't know why they kept clowning on Edmure and making him look bad for the viewers. Felt so bad for him he was my favorite character only to be bullied by Blackfish constantly and then Sansa in the finale one last time. He was the king that was promised. Has the wisdom, experience, qualities and courage. Most tragic storyline ever. I was rooting for Edmure Tully he is a fantastic and an honorable man. Red Wedding is the most upsetting episode in history. Jaime & Edmure were the best knights in the seven kingdoms just on the opposite team. Their conversation scene was excellently written in season 6. Shame most of the series relies on cheap shock factor, sadism and brutality.
I love how it only took him one second of lookint at the arrow in the air to realize it was a bullseye. I always picture what people in shows say when they only use body language. The Black Fish went something like this "Give me that shit, move out the way" 😂😂😂
Always found this funny at your fathers funeral you're supposed to make an impossible shot at a moving target on a river in hard wind, not to mention the arrow is supposed to set fire to the boat which is on a river water splashing everywhere
@@dragonstone1365 Brynden is only as good as he is because he wasn’t lord of Riverrun, as the second son he hadn’t the responsibility of lord so he could fight in the war of the ninepenny king etc - he wouldn’t have been as good.
I'm no archer, but that looks like a darned-near impossible shot to me. From that distance? With the wind blowing? I expect luck would have a lot to do with it even for an expert archer. Correct me if I'm wrong.
And he's using a classical longbow, and he's hungover, and his father just died the day before. Edmure is a magnificent archer by real world standard here, the Blackfish must be using some dark magic to still hit that shot.
looking at the arrows, Edmure's shots aren't bad archery - they are all very close to target. He's missing due to wind. He's missing because he's not assessing all the factors that are needed for a good shot, he's good but blunders from not thinking of the larger picture. excellent foreshadowing for the Stone Mill.
I thought so too at first but now I see the beauty in the ritual. I believe they do it to give the son, and next lord, a last chance to prove to his father that he has grown strong and skilled, so that his father can leave this life without worries.
0:55 Hitting that ship in that distance with one single arrow is not easy. In battle, you would have like hundreds of archers shooting on an army of hundreds of soldiers.
Edmure is the only Lord in Westeros who gives a shit about his small folk, has a viable heir ready and available, is undefeated in battle yet hates war, is a good dude with no ill will from anyone else sitting there, and unlike anyone else there, actually has experience running his kingdom, particularly in peace time, since his father was ill for so long. Edmure is the best candidate at that gathering, whether that's fantastic or sad is up for debate.
@@antred11 Another comment explained that the boat is far away, there is wind and he is using a longbow. Which makes hitting the boat difficult and you need lots of luck. They wanted to show the blackfish as a badass. In the book Edmure can't hit the boat, because he is crying, because this is his dead father. And the blackfish is actually comforting him and shots for him out of compassion.
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Pretty sure in the books he couldn’t hit it because he was crying, and blackfish taking it was as much a mercy as it was an insult
I kinda like this better
Truth. I liked it better in the books. Edmure was just made the butt monkey in the show. Got pissed when Sansa tells him off when he suggests himself as king in the final episode. I was like "Bitch, you tell him off and then YOU say you're Queen of the North?!!!"
He was hungover from drinking and crying the night before and in the books the blackfish wasn't trying to show up edmure like it seemed here which was just bad writing and written for the lolz
I love how in the books, Blackfish says there's no shame in missing his shot. Blackfish even mentions when when their father died, Hoster missed shooting their father's boat as well.
When are y’all gonna learn we don’t give af about what happened in the books. The show is a separate canon.
This is one of the many examples of how the beautiful story George wrote was ruined by the show's writers. Edmure might not be the brightest or most glorious of George's characters but unlike in the show he's not a stumbling punchline and his uncle is a practical veteran of war, not the unfeeling prick that he is in the show. In the books Edmure keeps missing because he cannot stop crying, this is a man who has just lost his father who he loved to the bottom of his heart. Even though it's against tradition his uncle takes the bow from his hands as a kindness even if it might stain his nephew honor as it's the lesser of the two evils. It's a sorrowful scene, not a ridicule of mourning.
well said
Then read the book. And don't watch the show. No one gives a shit about your complains.
@@leechristianlucht-watts8582 simmer down sweetheart
@@leechristianlucht-watts8582 bad day?
@@leechristianlucht-watts8582 false. I would gladly give TWO of my shits for his complaints. First reason shits are an extremely smelly currency and the second due to a plumbing malfunction in my bathroom. To be fair I’m getting the better deal…
"And which one of you was a marksman at 25? Keep practicing Ed"
Underrated
Why am I imagining Lord Tulley saying that sitting up from the boat.
True
I’m fucking dying lmao
Arya was a marksperson at age 10.!
To be fair to Edmure, he got it closer than I'd ever get if I was in his shoes.
Right?? I imagine thats difficult af to be able to do!
He's also been trained how to shoot a bow by the best in the country since a small boy. I think you would do comparable to him under the same circumstances
It is unfair to compare
Blackfish walked off before the arrow hit the boat.... Like a boss
.....like a boss
When we first saw this scene I remember thinking this guy is a boss.
Like a bass.
imagine if he missed that shot too
@@InsertTheCoin1997.....if miss, my guess is that it will float down river to the The Twins at Stone Bridge where Walder Frey will marry the corpse to one of his daughters
Honestly one of my least favorite scenes in the early show in the book the reason edmure keeps missing is because he is depressed from his father dying and instead of embarrassing him the blackfish shows compassion towards edmure and even says to catlyn that when her grand father died hoster Tully missed too
Imagine If blackfish would have missed too and the dead body eventually passes out of sight 😂😂
💃💃💃
Lul
That would've been great comedy.
Perhaps it is something we watch on HBO Min
you know that's why they probably didn't do this, this much in the real world.
By the end he was probably thinking, 'Is there any room left on that boat?'
i like robbs expression in background as edmure misses
And Cat glaring at him to stop laughing lol
In The whole series I love this man
1. High born child
2.marry beautiful wife
3.never die even he was used to as a prisoner
Is the only man to ever defeat Tywin Lannister in battle even though he was outnumbered, freed the Blackfish even while the castle was surrounded by a massive army, only knew his wife for a few hours and never even met his child but still cared enough to save them from a terrible death at the hands of the Lannisters, sheltered the small folk of the Riverlands within his walls because it was the right thing to do, never lost a battle, and in the books is set up to be the first man ever to seize Casterly Rock.
Edmure Tully, is, ironically, one of the only characters in ASOIAF who's truly just straight good, no moral greyness here.
@@charliecoke7396 Like him, I'd be happy to survive in the background.
@@charliecoke7396 That's the books tho. This isn't the books. He is a different character.
The show spent a lot of time softening the actions of characters who were terrible people all along, but when you have one of the few characters who could be considered a good person, they turn him into a clown.
The show makers probably just aren’t very good people in the first place.
@@georgeofhamilton Holy shit based on what? You not liking their work? Get a grip dude
@@Mopark25 No, based on the morality they express in the show.
@@georgeofhamilton What are you talking about? What in the show exactly points to their morality in any way? How do you even know what they specifically wrote, seeing as the show had dozens of writers and directors?
Pretty daft to think you can summize the quality of a human being based on a television show, adapted from a book, and worked on by thousands of people.
@@Mopark25 You can tell a lot about a writer by how they try to make you feel about certain characters. If you refuse to understand that, you’re honestly probably a bot.
Cat’s face after the boat finally burned 😂
Always hated how shittily the show treated Edmure, acting like he's an incompetent. Book Edmure a)Missed the ship because he was barely holding it together after Hoster died. b)Went against Robbs orders because Robb didn't tell him shit about his plans to cut Tywin off in the West and that miscommunication allowed the Lannisters and Tyrells to make common cause.
The show just loved making him the butt of jokes, but I liked book Edmure. He regularly cared for the smallfolk and the lords under him and tried to protect them and even let them go to defend their lands from the Lannister forces, which sets him apart from so many other lords.
Why do I feel most adaptations just do that? It's like they play lottery to decide which character to make fun of. And then, the fans of the series that don't read the original work then mistake the character for an absolute sack of stupid. This happened to Ron from Harry Potter too. I only watched HP films and I liked Ron, but then I found out his character was altered from the books, I was just disappointed. It's so malicious somehow.
Where in the books does it imply any of this your just making assumptions which you could do with the show to....all it say in the books is "hes as tight as his bowstring" implying hes nervous which this aptly represents your just making shit up...
Clash of Kings and Storm of Swords(Catelyn's chapters). Can find the quotes if you really need.
@@thanglongnguyenvu3815 Truth! Gave all his best lines to Hermione and made him an eating obsessed fool. Even cut out a ton of his own ideas and accomplishments(his winning the House Cup when Harry, Fred and George were banned from Quidditch in OOTP, his plan to hide his going with Harry on the journey in DH by disguising his attic ghoul as him with spattergroit, etc;)
I don't want to remember his last appearance in the finale episode the way Sansa made him stop talking.
The boat was getting out of the Range of a bow, thats why Blackfish had to push Edmure aside.
It would've eventually reached Kingslanding, to which Cersei would go *"WATAFA"*
I knew Blackfish was no pushover and to not be fucked with when he walked into the water with boots on. Absolute mad man not giving a shit about wet sock. Truly a remarkable man.
Even the dialog in THIS scene was better than everything in S8.
There was no dialogue
@@electronoob8970 thats the point
@@ramonsalu563 So nothing was better than season 8?
@@hiyukelavie2396 Ye. Doing nothing is better than doing a piece of crap.
@@hiyukelavie2396 yes, if she show just ended with season 7 it would have been much better. Or at season 6, with them all shouting "king in the north" at Jon Snow
Blackfish: what most people aspire to be
Edmure: what most people are
@Crimson Pride Most people are much better than Edmure and Blackfish combined.
@@AdamJensen_ what does you mean? Is that a joke I don't understand?
Blackfish is so freaking awesome. If you read the books, you see he's a huge reason behind Robb's repeated military success. Robb is a genius commander, no doubt, but he had the perfect man right there to lead the outriding forces and that was instrumental to his military victories.
He was a grumpy old bastard. A lot similar to Catelyn didn't have any wits or intelligence. Just your old school fight and die mentality. It gets demonstrated in season 6.
@@Sigurjon96 Either a troll comment or an ignorant one.
@@Sigurjon96that was due to the show writers
@@Darius0109 Troll...
@@Darius0109 Dude was wrecking the Lannisters at every instance and if his uncle Edmure listened to him, he would've drawn the Lannister armies to the Riverlands, surrounded them and destroyed them, while Stannis took King's Landing. Unfortunately Edmure didn't listen, so yeah... On the battlefield, Robb is a wrecking machine, but when it comes to politics, he's terrible.
That's badass but imagine the embarrasment Edmure went through
Not as embarrassed as Blackfish to be related to that loser. However, as pathetic as edmure is, he still out lived all of them.
@@mightyORFEN in the books he missed because he was crying. Not to mention very hung over from the night before. He took the passing of his father hard and couldn't keep himself steady enough to shoot the bow.
@@mightyORFEN the Blackfish actually loved his family. But by this point the show was already going downhill so D&D just wanted to focus one him being a badass rather than him being a man that even though is a badass he also values his family. The Tully words are literally "Family Duty Honour".
@@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk In the show he missed because he’s a moron and that’s the only thing that matters here.
I don't know why they kept clowning on Edmure and making him look bad for the viewers. Felt so bad for him he was my favorite character only to be bullied by Blackfish constantly and then Sansa in the finale one last time. He was the king that was promised. Has the wisdom, experience, qualities and courage. Most tragic storyline ever. I was rooting for Edmure Tully he is a fantastic and an honorable man. Red Wedding is the most upsetting episode in history. Jaime & Edmure were the best knights in the seven kingdoms just on the opposite team. Their conversation scene was excellently written in season 6. Shame most of the series relies on cheap shock factor, sadism and brutality.
I like how Robb makes a strange face to hide the laughter.
I love how it only took him one second of lookint at the arrow in the air to realize it was a bullseye. I always picture what people in shows say when they only use body language. The Black Fish went something like this "Give me that shit, move out the way" 😂😂😂
Always found this funny at your fathers funeral you're supposed to make an impossible shot at a moving target on a river in hard wind, not to mention the arrow is supposed to set fire to the boat which is on a river water splashing everywhere
1:21 robb laughing at him
Cat was giving him the death stare 😂
Robb laughing is priceless lol
Blackfish, a better archer, swordsman, and commander than Edmure will ever be lol
yea.. blackfish should be the lord of house tully... not edmure
But he was a second son, act of succession rules apply in Westeros so Edmure was to be Lord of Riverrun
he is dead though
there are few things scarier than a warrior who has spent his life fighting wars and survives to old age.
@@dragonstone1365 Brynden is only as good as he is because he wasn’t lord of Riverrun, as the second son he hadn’t the responsibility of lord so he could fight in the war of the ninepenny king etc - he wouldn’t have been as good.
I'm no archer, but that looks like a darned-near impossible shot to me.
From that distance? With the wind blowing? I expect luck would have a lot to do with it even for an expert archer.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
And he's using a classical longbow, and he's hungover, and his father just died the day before.
Edmure is a magnificent archer by real world standard here, the Blackfish must be using some dark magic to still hit that shot.
@@charliecoke7396 That's that plot power hahah, Blackfish was a badass
Black(fish) magic
looking at the arrows, Edmure's shots aren't bad archery - they are all very close to target.
He's missing due to wind.
He's missing because he's not assessing all the factors that are needed for a good shot, he's good but blunders from not thinking of the larger picture.
excellent foreshadowing for the Stone Mill.
still my favorite episode. It’s perfectly written… and I just love the Black Fish. Reminds me of my uncle Rich.
Brynden: Damnit Edmure! I'm not gonna have my brother's spirit pissing off on me because of your incompetence
This basically sums up Edmure in 2 minutes
A mistake yes.
Show Edmure. Book Edmure was more than just a joke.
@@phousefilms Fuck the books.
An inspiring sight for the people eh? Bow before your king,
STANNIS!
I came here to look for this comment 😅
“Uncle…please sit”
Noticed blackfish looked at the flag to know the angle of attack to compensate for the wind?
Oh, I thought he was just admiring his House sigil
I like how robb is trying to respectful as much as possible
Can you blame him that shit looks hard as hell
Robb couldn't hold it...
Just like Edmure.
Such was life for Uncle Edmure
Blackfish walked away before it hit.
Blackfish coming back!! Woo
Seriously though What is that armour the Tully's have?
Scale armor. They're fish, after all.
Like. A. Boss.
blackfish is the best! my fav scene,top 3 of the series
Spoiler alert - the Blackfish missed as well, it was Ayra's arrow she fired from the bushes
You chicky picky
The blackfish is fucking legend!
Edmure was rendered a joke in the show.
The Tully can’t use a bow to save their lives. Bran, Robyn, and their uncle, edmure, should have a archery contest.
the show did Edmure DIRTY
You’re looking at the current Lord of The Trident and Riverlands here lads. Gods help us…
1. That is an obscenely stupid way to light a fire lol. 2. Blackfish didn't even stay to see if his arrow had landed.
didn’t need to. That’s how bad ass he was😂😂
I thought so too at first but now I see the beauty in the ritual. I believe they do it to give the son, and next lord, a last chance to prove to his father that he has grown strong and skilled, so that his father can leave this life without worries.
Blackfish pulled a no look steph curry
Blackfish just pulled a Chef Curry, looked at the bench before the shot went in
Rob nearly laughing
cool move:D
House Tully had the best wardrobe in the show. I wonder if HotD will top that work.
He should have asked Ramsay to give him some lessons
Cupido, are you? I see 😂
0:55 Hitting that ship in that distance with one single arrow is not easy. In battle, you would have like hundreds of archers shooting on an army of hundreds of soldiers.
Blackfish lookin like chef curry
Steph Curry no-look shot
1:21 Richard Madden almost broke character.
Let’s remember this cat tried to nominate himself to become king😂 would’ve made as much since as Bran becoming king
Edmure is the only Lord in Westeros who gives a shit about his small folk, has a viable heir ready and available, is undefeated in battle yet hates war, is a good dude with no ill will from anyone else sitting there, and unlike anyone else there, actually has experience running his kingdom, particularly in peace time, since his father was ill for so long.
Edmure is the best candidate at that gathering, whether that's fantastic or sad is up for debate.
The best king they could have.
Edmure makes much more sense
Blackfish in your area~~
Blackfish...like a boss
Steph Curry like shot right there
Blackfish pulled a Curry
Funny enoughon my first Time watching the show when he grabbed the bow i said to myself : what if he misses .
Is that kind of accuracy even a reasonable expectation for an archer? I know nothing about it, I'm actually asking
If ever it was, it appears to be a lost art. I googled it, and “long range archery” is under 50 yards nowadays.
This looks so damn hard. I wonder if people from middle ages can actually regularly do it.
Boss
Would have been hilarious if Blackfish missed 😂
Jajaja todo un caso
Painful to watch.. what a disaster the end was.
at the end of got ebmure is the only one alive sad
actually the most realistic scene of the entire show
How so?
@@antred11 Another comment explained that the boat is far away, there is wind and he is using a longbow. Which makes hitting the boat difficult and you need lots of luck. They wanted to show the blackfish as a badass.
In the book Edmure can't hit the boat, because he is crying, because this is his dead father. And the blackfish is actually comforting him and shots for him out of compassion.
Hanzo main :D
Ugh just sit down, uncle
Keep quoting poorly written lines from this garbage fanfic, whilst knowing nothing about the characters.
how does it take 2 seconds for a little fire arrow to turn into a giant conflagration lol
I wonder if who would win between Blackfish and Steph Curry
Fuck the books, stop comparing. Simply enjoy the lolz!!!
Lmao what a poor low intellect normie. Screw the show, simpleton. Only the books are canon.
Can someone re-upload this with Prince Charles face super-imposed over Edmure Tully's?
Who would have thought the blackfish was a modern day Steph Curry 🤔🧐
Blackfish shooting arrow > CGI Dragon
Cool guys don't look at funerals.
😂😂😂
This short scene with zero dialogue its better than season 7 and 8 combine.
When someone ask what a Chad is show em this video
What is a Chad?
These comments have me fucking dead 💀😂
Like that's a hard ass shot what are they moaning and bitching about
Who could hit that?!
Too be fair that’s pretty far
Jamie Lannister acting here is better thant the story of S8
Coolest scene ever 🙏🏼
This is where Steph Curry learned it from 🤣🤣
So.... the boat will burn up and the body will float to shore
its not quite shown in the show but in the books its stated that hes wearing his steel armor so hed sink to the bottom after the ship burns.
Could of used him for Liz send off lol
This is kinda irrelevant but to be fair, even that first shot would be pretty hard to hit even for modern day archers, let alone the last
They should have just burned it from the beginning fuck it
yeah am pretty sure thats not fucking possible. prob like 1 one 1 trillion in chance
Waste of iron
This was kind of embarrassing.
No it's not, dear master bowman.