Hi Callum, Thanks for showing us around the exhibition. As a kid in the 1950's on holiday my parents took me to Peco, then located in Seaton, and we saw it then. The themes of the display were similar to that on show today. Living in a prefab after the war when our house was bombed, we didn't have a garage, a shed or an attic but I did have a bedroom and the display showed me how I could have a layout in it. I bought some rail, spikes, sleeper strip and a Peco wonderful Saxa salt wagon and started in model railways. The rest is history. Best wishes, Mick.
Many thanks indeed Mick and glad you enjoyed the video. Heard stories of when Peco was located on Seaton seafront. Certainly is quite the company now, especially from humble beginnings.
Hi there, there is a reason for this. Being a permanent model railway exhibition (currently open 5 days a week) mean the trains are expected to operate far above there usual life expectancy. For instance, the Hornby GWR 'Star' on the new Bullhead layout has been on the layout for just over 4 months, in this time it has covered well over 500 real world miles and has had 3 motor replacements all ready! As the layouts are designed to operate by themselve, the slower scale speed trains often stall, which is not ideal when the paying public want to see a layout operating. This is also helped by having lighter loads to reduce stress on the motors and gears. Though, did the full 14 car APT, GWR 4200 Class with a lengthy goods trains are exceptions.
I'd disagree that anyone can have a layout. For anyone to have a layout a person needs SPACE!!!! Lots of people haven't got the space not even the space to make a layout. Most children were given train sets that had to be set up and put away because they had NO SPACE to keep it set up. I guess your layout is situated in a dedicated room and not in a closet!!!
Certainly very eagle eyed (and correct too)! To me they were just ducks! I think this comment sums up what this exhibition is about - getting families involved
Please add a commentary to your exhibition videos so we know what we are looking at, who created them, special techniques etc. I enjoyed this video as it brings to life several of the layouts I have read about in the magazines, but without that I doubt if I would have watched it.
Cheers Callum! Really nice to see the different layouts and what a great idea it was to do each as a different room concept. Very clever way to stimulate the individual’s imagination so they get an idea and get the tape measure, pencil and paper out as soon as they get home (or simply switch on the laptop and load up the software as seems more the case these days! 😅) What I liked also was the variety on show in terms of scales and gauges, and even a bit of the exotic with the Rowes’ Mediterranean masterpiece! I was always blown away by their efforts as a boy and they were producing things which were technologically and scenically mind blowing to me at the time, and are still arguably not bettered only equalled by efforts I’ve seen since 🤔 Cheers matey, looking forward to an update on Lyncombe Vale soon 😜🍻🍀👍
Hi Tim, glad you enjoyed the tour. Really is a clever idea to give families or people who want to start out in the hobby what can be done in a given space; showing you don't need a large spare room or loft :) Truly is a work of art that. The lighting effects really add to the overall scene. Sadly my camera couldn't pick-up the night cycle. Hopefully I'll one day get around to producing another update on Lyncombe Vale, currently no plans in the foreseeable future due to other commitments. All the best!
Great video. I will go there one day. Good variety of layouts on show. I expect there will be a TT 120 layout especially with the Hornby announcement, Thanks for showing. Regards Paul.
Hi Just come across your channel.really enjoying it. I'm definitely going to Peco to see these layouts. its definitely on my top of to do list. I've now subscribed to your chanel. Thanks for your videos. All the best Pete
Yes they do operate to fast and trains aren't long but pecorama is not really aimed at hardcore railway modellers, it's more about families and 8nspiring people. Most people who go there want to see action otherwise they get bored.
I admit I'm NOT a Railway Moeller but how fast was that roundabout going at 1.20?? How did they survive that?? Come to that, why do all the operators seem to be obsessed with speed? Trains are either stopped or doing 80 mph/.
Lovely layouts and scenery spoilt by the ridiculous speed the trains run at. I agree with previous comments by NKProductions, and would suggest that a good film maker as yourself Callum, could slow it down so unfitted freights aren't doing a scale speed of 90!
Disclaimer: I haven't had a layout for 60 years but I do go to a lot of shows. Todays models offer unprecedented detail and I never cease to be amazed at the skill of modellers and the quality of the landscapes and buildings. Why, then, are locos and trains run at unrealistic speeds, why the sudden starts and stops and why the impossibly tight curves (OK, space constraints but...) all conspire to destroy the realism that the model makers have striven to achieve.
Thanks for the video, which was the usual good selection of angles. I have to agree with the other commenter, though, these layouts are pretty poor. I'm not sure why, with all the space they have and with all of the access to the Peco range of scenic items, they chose to have a handful of 'small' (by museum standards) layouts which means everything ends up looking a little amateurish and dated. Trains all moving super fast, breakneck acceleration and braking, random consists etc. Some of the scenic modelling is beautiful, and I guess the idea is to give 'real modellers' an idea of what they could achieve if only they buy the right Peco bits. And obviously they're not operating on a Miniatur Wunderland-sized budget.... Anyway, great video, really captured the range of the place.
Hi Ed, thanks ever so much and glad you enjoyed the camera work. I've answered some of those questions in the previous comment, however, regarding the standard of the layouts there also a number of factors. As you can imagine being a public exhibition open most of the year, the layouts have to be build in a relatively short timescale - to avoid getting in way of visitors. They are design to show what is a achievable to those wishing to start out in the hobby (hence each layout design to rooms you might find in an average home). Naturally, these use Peco and other off the shelf products, as well as kits. Surprisingly, though being on the Peco site the exhibition doesn't have open access to products, as at the end of the day the retailer's and costumers come first; this was demonstrated with the new Bullhead layout, which had an longer build time than others due popularity of the range. Either way, the families visiting on the day certainly enjoyed pushing a the buttons and making the trains go. Hope this explains a it all :)
@@SDJR7F88 It certainly does, and I very much appreciate your thoughtful reply. I realise re-reading my comment that it started from the (unstated) premise that "this ain't Pendon", and that was my mistake. So thanks for the footage, the education and the reminder to check my own assumptions from time to time. When next we're down in Devon with the family, we'll stop by.
A bit of a mix, most are driving by automated systems, some button pressed by visitors, while others are controllable. The O gauge layout is one that is automated
It’s certainly changed since I last saw it. I remember the Thomas layout at the beginning and the outdoor O gauge layout - is the 16mm live steam layout still outside? My dad used to love that one in the summer when the local group came and ran!
@@SDJR7F88 They are only demonstration layouts which are permanently there and have been for at least 5 years as they are the same ones that I saw the last time I visited that area. It's not my idea of a model railway exhibition and I wouldn't have thought it is what most people would call a model railway exhibition, it's more of an attraction rather an exhibition.
Hi Callum, Thanks for showing us around the exhibition. As a kid in the 1950's on holiday my parents took me to Peco, then located in Seaton, and we saw it then. The themes of the display were similar to that on show today. Living in a prefab after the war when our house was bombed, we didn't have a garage, a shed or an attic but I did have a bedroom and the display showed me how I could have a layout in it. I bought some rail, spikes, sleeper strip and a Peco wonderful Saxa salt wagon and started in model railways. The rest is history. Best wishes, Mick.
Many thanks indeed Mick and glad you enjoyed the video. Heard stories of when Peco was located on Seaton seafront. Certainly is quite the company now, especially from humble beginnings.
Everything goes too fast, and locos are not pulling enough rolling stock. Otherwise very nice examples.
Hi there, there is a reason for this. Being a permanent model railway exhibition (currently open 5 days a week) mean the trains are expected to operate far above there usual life expectancy. For instance, the Hornby GWR 'Star' on the new Bullhead layout has been on the layout for just over 4 months, in this time it has covered well over 500 real world miles and has had 3 motor replacements all ready! As the layouts are designed to operate by themselve, the slower scale speed trains often stall, which is not ideal when the paying public want to see a layout operating. This is also helped by having lighter loads to reduce stress on the motors and gears. Though, did the full 14 car APT, GWR 4200 Class with a lengthy goods trains are exceptions.
I'm surprised that the people on that roundabout didn't fly off and end up in orbit around the Earth.
@@nigelbevan8449 Same. For sure got brain damage from it though, eyes popping out of faces XD
Time dilation.
Probably need to increase gravity slightly.
I visited here as a child in the mid-1970s. I'd love to visit again sometime. I loved it.
Highly recommended a visit if you can! Can't pass on a cream tea if you do
Einfach wundervoll in jeder Hinsicht,sehr detailfreudig gestaltet auch!
Glad you enjoyed it
hi what a great layout so different thank you for a great vlog
use to go on holiday at beer, when young with mum and dad, many, many years ago, seen the railway and its very good,
Glad it brought back memories.
Great stuff Callum. I loved the room settings for the layouts. No excuses, anyone can have a layout.
Just shows what can be done and you don't need a large room of loft space for a layout :)
Definitely, great idea
I'd disagree that anyone can have a layout. For anyone to have a layout a person needs SPACE!!!! Lots of people haven't got the space not even the space to make a layout. Most children were given train sets that had to be set up and put away because they had NO SPACE to keep it set up. I guess your layout is situated in a dedicated room and not in a closet!!!
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My favourite quote from this is ‘ theirs a coot mommy’ at 16:34
Certainly very eagle eyed (and correct too)! To me they were just ducks! I think this comment sums up what this exhibition is about - getting families involved
@@SDJR7F88 indeed and especially getting the young people involved hope you had a wonderful time
Awesome 👍
Please add a commentary to your exhibition videos so we know what we are looking at, who created them, special techniques etc. I enjoyed this video as it brings to life several of the layouts I have read about in the magazines, but without that I doubt if I would have watched it.
Hi there. Glad you enjoyed the video and the magazine. I don't like to do commentary on exhibition videos, as most is cover the magazine.
Beautiful! Perfect!👍😉
Glad you enjoyed it!
That 'Garden Shed' Layout is all a bit strange - with that Bumble bee thingy??? 🤔🚂🚂🚂
That layout was built following the Great Model Railway Challenge TV show, to encourage families starting out in the hobby
Amateurish, you see so much better quality in any exhibition. With Peco's resources, I would have expected so much better.
@@martindoman6385 Hi Martin, see my responses to other comments 👍
Thanks Callum. I've never actually visited, so I must!!
Glad you enjoyed it, well worth it if you get the chance
Love that Spanish layout. I still remember that from when I went there quite a few years ago now. Good video.
Really is a work of art that! The lighting is just spectacular, with the simulated sunrise and sunset. Camera really doesn't do it justice
@@SDJR7F88 was looking at that earlier this summer. Shame the lights on the taverna terrace scene were not working.
As usual, great quality filming. Thanks. 😀
Many thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
Cheers Callum! Really nice to see the different layouts and what a great idea it was to do each as a different room concept. Very clever way to stimulate the individual’s imagination so they get an idea and get the tape measure, pencil and paper out as soon as they get home (or simply switch on the laptop and load up the software as seems more the case these days! 😅)
What I liked also was the variety on show in terms of scales and gauges, and even a bit of the exotic with the Rowes’ Mediterranean masterpiece! I was always blown away by their efforts as a boy and they were producing things which were technologically and scenically mind blowing to me at the time, and are still arguably not bettered only equalled by efforts I’ve seen since 🤔
Cheers matey, looking forward to an update on Lyncombe Vale soon 😜🍻🍀👍
Hi Tim, glad you enjoyed the tour. Really is a clever idea to give families or people who want to start out in the hobby what can be done in a given space; showing you don't need a large spare room or loft :)
Truly is a work of art that. The lighting effects really add to the overall scene. Sadly my camera couldn't pick-up the night cycle.
Hopefully I'll one day get around to producing another update on Lyncombe Vale, currently no plans in the foreseeable future due to other commitments. All the best!
Great video. I will go there one day. Good variety of layouts on show. I expect there will be a TT 120 layout especially with the Hornby announcement, Thanks for showing. Regards Paul.
Fingers crossed. I'm sure there are plans for a TT layout at some points, especially considering the new range of Peco trackwork.
Hi Just come across your channel.really enjoying it. I'm definitely going to Peco to see these layouts. its definitely on my top of to do list.
I've now subscribed to your chanel. Thanks for your videos.
All the best
Pete
Many thanks indeed and glad you enjoyed the enjoyed! Highly recommended a visit.
Hope there are plans for a new TT120 demo layout? I'm sure you could have fun helping out with that.
Never know... I'm sure there are plans afoot... ;)
Blimey, are they training fast jet pilots in g force control on the funfair roundabout?
Could well be
Brilliant love the layout great content.
Thanks ever so much Jeff! Glad you enjoyed it
Yes they do operate to fast and trains aren't long but pecorama is not really aimed at hardcore railway modellers, it's more about families and 8nspiring people.
Most people who go there want to see action otherwise they get bored.
I admit I'm NOT a Railway Moeller but how fast was that roundabout going at 1.20?? How did they survive that?? Come to that, why do all the operators seem to be obsessed with speed? Trains are either stopped or doing 80 mph/.
The layouts are all automated
Lacking inrolling stock plus nothing join up so how can it be an extension?
Extension?
Great video Callum, thought Catalunya was awesome
Truly is an awesome layout. The lighting effects really set the scene
Lovely layouts and scenery spoilt by the ridiculous speed the trains run at. I agree with previous comments by NKProductions, and would suggest that a good film maker as yourself Callum, could slow it down so unfitted freights aren't doing a scale speed of 90!
But then it would be true to how the display is... My previous comments explains this reason for why they run them as they do
A lot has changed from when PECO were based in Harbour Road, Seaton!
Certainly has!
Disclaimer: I haven't had a layout for 60 years but I do go to a lot of shows. Todays models offer unprecedented detail and I never cease to be amazed at the skill of modellers and the quality of the landscapes and buildings. Why, then, are locos and trains run at unrealistic speeds, why the sudden starts and stops and why the impossibly tight curves (OK, space constraints but...) all conspire to destroy the realism that the model makers have striven to achieve.
See my reply to other comments. There is good reason 👍
Thanks for the video, which was the usual good selection of angles. I have to agree with the other commenter, though, these layouts are pretty poor. I'm not sure why, with all the space they have and with all of the access to the Peco range of scenic items, they chose to have a handful of 'small' (by museum standards) layouts which means everything ends up looking a little amateurish and dated. Trains all moving super fast, breakneck acceleration and braking, random consists etc. Some of the scenic modelling is beautiful, and I guess the idea is to give 'real modellers' an idea of what they could achieve if only they buy the right Peco bits. And obviously they're not operating on a Miniatur Wunderland-sized budget....
Anyway, great video, really captured the range of the place.
Hi Ed, thanks ever so much and glad you enjoyed the camera work. I've answered some of those questions in the previous comment, however, regarding the standard of the layouts there also a number of factors. As you can imagine being a public exhibition open most of the year, the layouts have to be build in a relatively short timescale - to avoid getting in way of visitors. They are design to show what is a achievable to those wishing to start out in the hobby (hence each layout design to rooms you might find in an average home). Naturally, these use Peco and other off the shelf products, as well as kits. Surprisingly, though being on the Peco site the exhibition doesn't have open access to products, as at the end of the day the retailer's and costumers come first; this was demonstrated with the new Bullhead layout, which had an longer build time than others due popularity of the range.
Either way, the families visiting on the day certainly enjoyed pushing a the buttons and making the trains go. Hope this explains a it all :)
@@SDJR7F88 It certainly does, and I very much appreciate your thoughtful reply. I realise re-reading my comment that it started from the (unstated) premise that "this ain't Pendon", and that was my mistake. So thanks for the footage, the education and the reminder to check my own assumptions from time to time. When next we're down in Devon with the family, we'll stop by.
@@ep1981 No worries, it honestly didn't come across like that. :) If you do be sure to let us know
Are all of these operated by computers? One of those 0 gauge layouts looked like it was being driven by people
A bit of a mix, most are driving by automated systems, some button pressed by visitors, while others are controllable. The O gauge layout is one that is automated
It’s certainly changed since I last saw it. I remember the Thomas layout at the beginning and the outdoor O gauge layout - is the 16mm live steam layout still outside? My dad used to love that one in the summer when the local group came and ran!
Thomas layout and garden layouts are still there and working, just weren't running on the day :)
@@SDJR7F88 aw cracking! Long journey from Wales but might make the trip one day 👍🏻
Nice layouts, pity about all the HSTs 🤣
good vid on the channel thanks lee
Many thanks
These children's rides at the fun fair are bit fast ,
Yes
Nice video, but i wouldn't call it a model railway exhibition...
Why?
@@SDJR7F88 They are only demonstration layouts which are permanently there and have been for at least 5 years as they are the same ones that I saw the last time I visited that area. It's not my idea of a model railway exhibition and I wouldn't have thought it is what most people would call a model railway exhibition, it's more of an attraction rather an exhibition.
🚂🚂🚂😎😎😎👍
Cheers
Lol not much difference to when I went like 10 years ago
Why put passengers on platforms but never in coaches or train drivers in closed cabs? Only pretending to be a modeller, ruddy part timers again.