47461 FAILED! Rescued by a pair of Class 20’s, 5th April 1990 ScotRail
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2022
- 05/64 D1581
New to 52A
10/68 to 64B On loan
11/68 to 64B Permanent
10/69 to 40B On loan
11/69 to 40B Permanent
06/72 to 52A
05/73 to GD
09/73 to HO
02/74 47 461
10/77 to SF
05/78 to YK
01/79 to IM
07/79 to HA
05/81 to ED
02/82 to HA
05/82 to ED
10/84 to IS
02/86
47461 was repainted from InterCity livery to the 'blue stripe' variant, thereby becoming the only 47/4 to carry this livery.
11/90
47461 was damaged in shunting accident at Liverpool Lime Street station. Following a period stored at Allerton TMD was moved to Crewe Works and withdrawn on March 28th 1991. Moved to Booth Roe at Rotherham on November 29th 1993 and cut-up on December 17th 1993.
Credit ~ class47.Co.uk
It's a brilliant look back at the Railway in yesteryear when it wasn't boring like it is nowadays.
English Electric saves the day as always!
Looks like a different world now...i remember Jimmy Shand rescuing the train i was on at Busby on the Oban line about the same year
What a big bad pair of 20s , a rare couple indeed and a lively performance too….. these two evaded me along with 87 other class members…… I miss the days of locomotive hauled trains, especially when failures led to freight engines standing in for or rescuing the booked motive power….. great bit of footage, thoroughly enjoyable 👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏😎
Thanks 🙏 yes those were the days indeed!!!
Reminds me of when I met a friend at Euston one night, having decided to bash Class 47s in Sconnie Botland (I always gave myself 2 weeks off out of 20 weeks, every summer, from bashing the Yarmouth Saturday Only trains). When he told me that a pair Class 26s were working the 13.21 Edinburgh to Inverness via Ladybank. The gen said it was either 26 001 and 26 002 or 26 001 and 26 003. I needed all three locos, so I was a happy camper. But sadly, he needed just 26 003, and 26 001 and 26 002 produced, so he stayed put. The pair duly backed on at Waverley, but 26 002 blew up at Kirkcaldy, so 26 001 limped on, on her own. At Perth, the pair was replaced by 37 153. I alighted. The lads said surely, you need 37 153, she is a rare beastie. I replied I did not. I had already had 80+ Tractors, that was at least 80+ too many. I have even cabridden 37 405 from Edinburgh to Fort William on official duty, and 37 423 from Staines to London Bridge also on official duty. All in all, I have had 16 locos catch fire, and one loco that exploded (she put her carden shaft through the engine, as it had become detached from the generator). I have been on three trains that have derailed. I have been on 8 passenger trains with either no automatic train brake (it was an unfitted passenger train, in contravention of the Regulation of Railways Act 1889) or she had insufficient brake force (the brakes applied, but failed to retard the train due to a combination of train weight, downhill gradient and excessive speed, we were doing 60 mph in a 40 mph zone, the gradient was 1 in 40 for 42 miles and the train was Load 17. I alerted the signalman, after the train speed rose to 85 mph, despite four brake applications. The signalman rang out 7-5-5 Train Running Away in the Right Direction, and we passed 17 signals at danger, Blair Atholl to Perth). We also came down the summit at Moose Pass too quickly once on the Alaska Railroad. I have witnessed 2 bufferstop collisions (Liverpool Street and Great Yarmouth) and been on a further two trains that hit the stops (Romford and Kidderminster). And my middle name is Lucky. LOL ! Remember folks, railways are still the safest form of land transport. It is just I used to do over 20, 000 miles per annum. Love the Class 47 in ScotRail livery. Very smart.
Loved reading that !!, you’re not the only one coming down from Inverness too fast the Stobart / Tesco train regularly ‘runs away’ and even jumped the rails once at Carrbridge in 2010 , must be scary tho passing 17 signals 😱
@@yesterdaystracks Luckily, all the northbound trains were put into the station loops, allowing us to run through the straights, and the facing point locks held. Blair Atholl points which are 15 mph, we took at 85 mph. Had we been routed via the loop, we might have ended up in the River Tilt, having mounted the platform and taken out the footbridge. At 2 x Class 26 + Load 17, the signalmen routed us in the straights. With 7-5-5 each signalman is required to put the road back in front of the driver to tell the driver he is trying to stop the train. Personally, if my brakes had a problem, I would prefer to see green signals ! Blair Atholl passed us to Killkrankie (who no doubt exclaimed "oh poo" or some ancient Scots expletive - use your imagination here) who passed us to Pitlochry (who said "I need a physical needs break") who passed us to Ballinluig (who said "What a day, to leave my spare underpants at home") who passed us to Dunkeld (who said "oh my" - they are posh in Dunkeld) who passed to Stanley Junction (who let out a small fart) and finally Perth power signalbox, which is where we came to rest on the level bit. The first to alight in Perth were the Chief Steward (holding a caving knife) and his assistant (holding a meat cleaver). They legged it up the platform to the cry of "Stitch that Jimmy", which is an ancient welcome in the Highlands. They had been serving pea and ham soup, and it fell over, and all the glasses and crockery came flying off the walls. Passengers were skating in scolding hot soup and impaling their behinds on sharp fragments. Once they had cleared up the buffet car, they presented the passengers with a dinner plate on which was a very small chipolata sausage and two Brussel sprouts. They announced to the passengers "This is what we removed from the driver at Perth. He won't be doing that again." That was the RESL's Easter Highlander in April 1984. The same tour that blew up a Class 25 at St Albans on the outward leg, and caught fire to a second Class 25, also at St Albans on the return leg. No I don't what St Albans has against Class 25s. The 00.05 Sheffield to St Pancras was duly given a Special Stop Order to pick up 1,100 passengers at 3 a.m. The Class 45 driver was a tad astonished to see the platform wedged. We were less happy, as she was only Load 5, and 17 into 5 don't go ! I ended up in the front vestibule of the front coach. To stop about 50 men from ending up in a tangled heap on the floor (we were all knackered), I opened the door window and stuck my head out into the Arctic air to wake myself up. Whoosh ! A bridge abutment appeared out of the darkness with no warning, and narrowly missed my nose. It is surprising how quickly you can wake from a 70 hour railtour, when you need to !!
Happy days.
I caught a taxi home from the station at 6 a.m. The taxi driver looked at the state I was in, and said "That must have been one hell of a party you went to lad."
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Great stuff. Thanks taking the time to share it with us.
He wasn’t hanging about!
Can’t believe they went full throttle straight away 😳
All Scottish drivers were thrash merchants back then! Fantastic by the way
Ha ha yeah they loved showing off 🤣
Nice bit of haulage .
Nice bit of Shunting too.
Then rescued by 633 Squadron, lol.
Cracking film with the Mosquitoes in ww2.
Days of the Blue BR Smock, I remember them fondly.
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Cheers Ian 👌
Good stuff 👍👍👍 Love the sound of diesel in the morning...
Only one sound better than that of a 37 imho, and that's a pair of 20's. Superb video.
Cheers mate 👍
Or a pair of 31s, or a pair of 50s. Or a pair of 37s 😃
@@kalicom2937 a pair of 31s, arrrgh, dreadful engine’s…. We used to call them Peds and they were always failing or struggling away with 6 coaches but making it sound like 12, lol….. sometimes they would manage to reach a decent speed but it took a while and usually down a gradient….. I never had one up the Lickey Incline that didn’t need banking if it was over 300 tons…. Class 37s , now that is a real locomotive and I bagged over 200 for haulage before they were rebuilt and renumbered and another 44 in their new guise…… but Deltics and Peaks were my thing in the mid 1970s to early 80s…. A pair of class 25s were great too if they were thoroughly thrashed but suffered afterwards, the earlier 24s were more forgiving of a good thrash but I only had a dozen for haulage…. The real beasts were the Western’s, really fast acceleration and a beautiful sound….. travelled behind a quarter of them and they were always a great ride 👌👌👌👍👍👍😃🏴😎
@@NDSKOSTHEORY And I always thought they sounded great, especially when they were struggling to oull the skin of a rice pudding 😄
Wow what an experience of early diesel power you have had, never seen a 24 , 25’s were quite rare , even the 3 that were converted to Ethel for the WHL were a treat to see!
Westerns & Peaks now that’s something I’d love to have haulage 🥹
Can't beat that wind up from a standing start, EE grunt at its best
Both this video and the 20’s on the North West Loco Extravaganza surprised me how they can go full throttle so quickly
Great to watch....and listen to !!
Glad you liked it 😊
Excellent vid 😁 A pair of Whistling Wardrobes on Thunderbirds duty is a cop par excellence 🤟🏼 Reminds me of witnessing a pair of 25/1s lift a failed 46 and its Cross Country service out of BNS. That was a glorious splutterfest. Would love to know when that event happened; I was a wee dieseldawg cutting his gricer teeth at that point so I’m guessing ‘82 or ‘83 🙂 Thanks for the memories!
5th April 1990 Jim, so later than you thought ☺️
+Jim Dieseldawg may have been on the train you describe…. 25118 & 25137 rescued 46033 just north of Cheltenham, removed from a BESCOT to STJ freight and hauled the 10 coach Plymouth to Leeds ADEX service, with 37158 & 37223 added for the climb up the Lickey Incline, a sight and sound that was wonderful….. we thought the 25s would remove the peak at News Street and be replaced but nothing was available and the whole ensemble carried on with them still at the front of the dead peak when I decamped at Derby…. Those were the days, I believe it was May 1979 but would have to check my old haulage record books to be sure…. Happy days of multiple classes of diesel and electric locomotives for the taking 😎
@@NDSKOSTHEORY What are the chances?! Thanks for sharing and solving a long-standing question for me 🙂
@@jimdieseldawg3435 no problem, nice to be able to supply the ‘gem’ for a change, usually me searching for information about workings I couldn’t identify or have forgotten or lost my records…. Always enjoyed a pair of rats working hard 👌👌👌👍👍😎
Don't get that kind of excitement anymore with the plastic s**t we have now.
Def don’t !!, tho I’m off for haulage on Sat with 3x 37’s , video to come !! 👌
When I worked Aberdeen to London sleeper the 47 failed between Inverkeithng &Nth Qferry we had to wait for a Loco rescue us &tied the loco on.
What was it that rescued you?
@@yesterdaystracks Another class 47.
@@Pmjs dann spoons, last time I traveled on the Inverness and Aberdeen sleepers it was pairs of class 37s and generator vans for the ETS….. a lot better in my opinion, but back to spoons (47s) and re engined next generation motive power….. supposedly moving forward, seems a retrograde step to me , but locomotive hauled stock is not cost effective and a multiple unit a 10th of the size is deemed the answer on today’s privately owned railway, come back BR all is forgiven, lol 😂😂😂🏴😎
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Big coincidence, saw 20206 and 20213 at Larbert on 28th June 1988! Maybe they worked the cement regularly?!
Yes more than likely paired together for some time , this pair came off the ballast working to help on this rescue
On the rare occasion I see a picture or video of a single class 20, my first thought is: "Where's the other one ?"
Always better in pairs 👌
Couple of questions. Firstly, where did it fail? And secondly, why didn't they leave it on the train at Stirling, and change the 20s for 47633, instead of removing 47461 and replacing it and the 20s with 47633? Would've surely been better the leave it dead on the train, to get it to Inverness and its home depot.
I could be wrong but that looks like Larbert.
The train failed at Larbert station, Down platform, Hauled to Stirling.
Wow, right place right time, didn't realise there was a cement terminal there at Larbert.. Like how they get the job done keeping the service running.
Correct failed at Larbert
I received a phone call and immediately picked up my camera and drove as fast as I could go 🤣
One of these 20s in London Transport colours ?
It’s 20227 that’s in LT livery 🤔