You know who came out of this looking like a babyface? Nailz LOL. After hearing about all the allegations against Vince, maybe Nailz was telling the truth.
I have been wondering about this too. As far as I know Vince isn't interested in men, but there's a lot of stuff we don't know about Vince. Plus, I think the way he'd gush over the bodies of certain wrestlers (or bodybuilders like Gary Strydom) on commentary has always kind of been eyebrow-raising.
@@Trustme77 yea it makes me wonder. Tbh I think Vince might have a bi side. There were big rumors about him and HBK. Also if you read the court documents, he was allegedly really into 3somes with other men involved and sharing her with other men. Very strange.
@@JGD185 He was SA'd by a man (his stepfather.) I'm not saying SA from a same sex person "makes you" gay, but we are all very much shaped by our childhood experiences, and it often manifests as sexual festishes/kinks
Anyone who's seen the Hitman Hart: Wrestling with Shadows knows how much Bret loved him, he looked up to him like his own father. Must hurt hearing this.
Renee hit the nail on the head about Vince writing himself into (pointless) storylines that involve him having sexual relationships with Sable, Candice, Stacy etc. It was just a power drunk boss living out his fantasies
To be fair, Bret doesn't need much of a reason to not respect Vince since McMahon doesn't even respect himself. I think Bret is thinking of this as if this woman was his child or niece (I believe their around the same age). I think Bret has been in the business long enough to have seen some signs but was never 100% sure.
Bret has sisters, daughters and grandaughters . Like you said , He most likely thought how he would feel if Janel was his sister or daughter. That thought made him sick and made him lose all respect he had for Vince.
Whether you like Brets opinions or not, he will not hold anything back. He will answer every question without being afraid of giving the "right" response. I found the "weirdo " comment very funny lol
As usual, Bret absolutely is the most well spoken man in wrestling. Considering the health problems he's had,,, look at how confusing and impossible to understand Kevin Nash's rumblings of uhh duhh uhh duuhh about Vince were. Like they were the sentances of a dementia riddled 90 year old. Bret on the other hand still sounds about the same as he always did
Freakin' sad. I always thought Vince McMahon was funny with his promos but after hearing about the allegations, it saddens me because now I am starting to suspect where all that maniacal shit comes from. Him being with Sable and the other Divas was kind of weird also. Didn't Sable also have a lawsuit against WWE (then WWF)?
@@stanhooper59 Yes but the reason why she sued the company was because of sexual harassment which seems to be the theme with Vince. There's a definite pattern here. Either it was from Vince or from one of his people. Now, her reasons for coming back to the company are hers and hers alone. But it just seems...weird. Do you think that the Divas felt comfortable with some of the stuff they did on live national TV? I mean, we don't really know.
I couldn't believe it when I saw Regal do that back in the day. I was thinking "WHY DID YOU NOT QUIT WHEN THEY ASKED YOU TO DO THIS?!" It probably boils down to how if you get a dream job (in this case, wrestling for WWE in front of big crowds), and your boss *knows* that it's your dream job, then they know that you'll put up with a lot of BS and even accept less money than you're worth because of how much your dream job means to you. So they take advantage of that and they get away with things they shouldn't.
@@BassAcoustic-ww1eu That definitely was all Vince's idea all the way up to the way they poured that crap on her afterwards and humiliated her publicly.
Not a lawyer here, but with that caveat I think maybe you could make an argument for him being some kind of accessory in Nancy Argentino case. He did do his best to cover for Snuka.
Story goes that Bret never *really* wanted to do business with McMahon again, and that the only reason he came back in 2010 was because WWE was getting ready to make a DVD that just totally buried him like "Self-Destruction Of The Ultimate Warrior" did to Jim Hellwig. Bret didn't want his history with the company rewritten like that, so he returned for a number of shows and patched things over enough with the company that they didn't want to bury him any more. (Speaking of which, it's amazing how much revisionist history WWE under McMahon has done. I'm old enough to remember the Monday Night War, and when I first heard WWE's version of the story, I rolled my eyes.)
Vince used a girl as a bathroom then gave her a million. Joe Scarborough had a deceased female intern in his office. Not excusing Vince but there's definitely a political component.
1:30 I simultaneously believe in innocent until proven guilty and have no objection to wrestlers or others who've worked with him saying "Yeah, that sounds like the kind of thing Vince would do." Because yeah, Rene has interacted with Vince way more than I have, as have many others in the business weighing in. I'll still have my own opinion and it might not always line up with theirs, but they're still the most qualified to comment on how probable this is.
Really, all that's needed is verification of the text messages from the service provider and then it's pretty clear cut lol. I'm sure it'll get to that point in the court.
All of a sudden those who spoke negative about Bret Hart, now understand why he just speaks what he is thinking, well as far as Goldberg goes, that's water under the bridge...
@@chm9935 undertaker is one of the biggest backstage politicians and douchebags in wwe. Notorious for encouraging that sick hazing practice called wrestlers court. Wrestlers today are paid to say nice things about him or they lose their jobs and can't wrestle for other promotions
@@chm9935 undertaker is a bully and a prick backstage. Wrestlers are ordered to say nice things about him or they get punished. Wrestlers court is his creation. Sick hazing practice
I’ve been watching the older stuff from 2003 and some of the segments are very foreshadowing theirs one in particular where Stephanie is going off at Vince for something and she mentions he used to send her out with high end talent and promise that talent she’d do anything for them with all these sex traffic allegations it’s kinda creepy
Hope so... there is video series of Vince s p stein mc mahon doing interview around the time of Montreal s..crew job where Mcmahon buried Bret Hart and pretty much call him bunch names and that he wasn't worth the money he was getting pay. And he wax like Broken horse and wax Old and didn't care he went to WCW..
Hitman perhaps suffered most because of Mcmahon. Don't forget about Owen's tragic accident. We might never find the truth, but it's a possibility it was made on purpose. Bret still respected Vince after all these terrible events. I'm sure he never looked at him the same after 1997, but there still was that history between Bret and Vince. As much as he lost his respect for him, I believe he still hates Goldberg and Hogan more than Mcmahon 😅.
Bret is the Best there is The Best that there was any The Best that ever will be and I think that the thought of Owen Hart still has never left him when he died at Over the Edge 1999.
James or rene does all of this make sense now why John ace was hiring models with no talent for the divas era and the new womans era was the start of a cover up to maybe hide everything. Just a thought
I appreciate Bret having the spine to speak out against Vince unlike some other people (Mick Foley, Kevin Nash, Shawn Michaels all with horrible takes, crickets from The Undertaker), but it's a little odd that THIS was the last straw from Bret after Vince literally killed his brother. That would probably be a dealbreaker from me that I'd never talk to someone again outside of a courtroom.
It's capitalism. In Capitalism you have an employer/employee relationship similar to Slavery with a master/slave relationship. Oppressor/oppressed. One person has power (the employer) over the other person.
I agree, when the Ruthless Aggression era started he took a leap of perviness. Innocent until proven guilty BUT as He is described it would obviously not be a surprise. If all true, He needs to be incarcerated for sure.
When Vince McMahon said he felt he stole Stephanie's innocence as if he personally "deflowered her" I knew he was a real life sick pervert. There is nothing entertaining about that.
Where’s the part when Bret says after Oldberg kicked him in the head Vince came out and did the poopy sexy on his head and used the Canuck flag to wipe
If you're saying that Bret has an axe to grind and has no reason to tell the truth, perhaps so. But Bret isn't saying anything that different from what people without axes to grind are saying.
Please, Bret was Hugging Vince's neck not too long ago. Owen died in the ring, vince had his body dragged off so the PPV Could g o on, yet Bret hugs him.
Stick with Bad News on this one...Bret is a punk & a jobber that marks out for himself. This is the most heat he's had in 20 years. Yet again, Vinny Mac giving him something to do, because nobody wants to pay to see Bret.
Развлечения
Reinforcing my respect for The Hitman
He's still pissed about Montreal
@@romans52345-cy3tq damn right
Bret speaking the truth. What a man, unlike the other sycophants that won't just call Vince out for all the horrible shit.
He always speaks the truth. Vince still has blood on his hands with Owen's death.
Yeah starting with apologetic piece of trash al snow
Brett also apologised to someone for brutally doubting her story for years, when he worked for Vince.
And I’m a big fan.
Bret has literally always done that
Bret msy have known for yrs but had to keep quiet.
You know who came out of this looking like a babyface? Nailz LOL. After hearing about all the allegations against Vince, maybe Nailz was telling the truth.
Yeah!
I have been wondering about this too. As far as I know Vince isn't interested in men, but there's a lot of stuff we don't know about Vince. Plus, I think the way he'd gush over the bodies of certain wrestlers (or bodybuilders like Gary Strydom) on commentary has always kind of been eyebrow-raising.
I saw youtube video with nailz talking bout vince
@@Trustme77 yea it makes me wonder. Tbh I think Vince might have a bi side. There were big rumors about him and HBK. Also if you read the court documents, he was allegedly really into 3somes with other men involved and sharing her with other men. Very strange.
@@JGD185 He was SA'd by a man (his stepfather.) I'm not saying SA from a same sex person "makes you" gay, but we are all very much shaped by our childhood experiences, and it often manifests as sexual festishes/kinks
Bret Hart also mentioned that the phone texts sound just like Vince McMahon.
Like uncle Iron sheik said! Fuck the Vince McMahon!
I MAKE YOU HUMBLE!
Bret Hart has always been class.🩷
Bret has backbone and integrity. 🖤 🩷
Anyone who's seen the Hitman Hart: Wrestling with Shadows knows how much Bret loved him, he looked up to him like his own father. Must hurt hearing this.
Renee hit the nail on the head about Vince writing himself into (pointless) storylines that involve him having sexual relationships with Sable, Candice, Stacy etc. It was just a power drunk boss living out his fantasies
Whats Renee's reactions To Vince's pre-allegations against Grant exposed lies
I hope Vince goes to jail over all of this
Highly unlikely unfortunately
@@Derek70388 cause of being a billionaire
I hope he comes back. He's the hottest heel in the business right now
To be fair, Bret doesn't need much of a reason to not respect Vince since McMahon doesn't even respect himself. I think Bret is thinking of this as if this woman was his child or niece (I believe their around the same age). I think Bret has been in the business long enough to have seen some signs but was never 100% sure.
Bret has sisters, daughters and grandaughters . Like you said , He most likely thought how he would feel if Janel was his sister or daughter. That thought made him sick and made him lose all respect he had for Vince.
@@ricardovelez1725U think Natalya or any of Bret's daughters would sell their souls for $ like Grant?
The fact that not one of his children or grandchildren are defending him says everything.
@harvardsmithdeangelo6905 steroids and concussions made it worse
@@chm9935 and the billion dollar plus money
They dont want the stench on them. Grant suspect as hell too
The pre-allegations exposing Grant's lies speaks for itself
@@rodsingh-dw4lj vince and her are suspect as hell
"What has Vince McMahon ever really...........done?" - Bret Hart
"So the only job you've ever had is the one your daddy gave you?" Roddy Piper to McMahon on Smackdown, 2003.
"Vince knows nothing, he's an idiot"
@@JessicaChastainFanVince McMahon thought that money was always the answer
Bret is still my hero 30 years later
Whether you like Brets opinions or not, he will not hold anything back. He will answer every question without being afraid of giving the "right" response. I found the "weirdo " comment very funny lol
Vince McMahon "he's the shits"
As usual, Bret absolutely is the most well spoken man in wrestling. Considering the health problems he's had,,, look at how confusing and impossible to understand Kevin Nash's rumblings of uhh duhh uhh duuhh about Vince were. Like they were the sentances of a dementia riddled 90 year old. Bret on the other hand still sounds about the same as he always did
Vince McMahon Screwed Vince McMahon
Bret: "I like Goldberg's wrestling ability more than I like Vince McMahon."
My god, that thumbnail is just made for Jason Sensation.
Bret: Hey, Vince! You're looking good....Mr. Addams Family.
Freakin' sad. I always thought Vince McMahon was funny with his promos but after hearing about the allegations, it saddens me because now I am starting to suspect where all that maniacal shit comes from.
Him being with Sable and the other Divas was kind of weird also. Didn't Sable also have a lawsuit against WWE (then WWF)?
@@stanhooper59 Yes but the reason why she sued the company was because of sexual harassment which seems to be the theme with Vince. There's a definite pattern here. Either it was from Vince or from one of his people. Now, her reasons for coming back to the company are hers and hers alone. But it just seems...weird. Do you think that the Divas felt comfortable with some of the stuff they did on live national TV? I mean, we don't really know.
The two most cringe worthy things I saw in the ring were
1. Vince making people kiss his ass
2. Edge and Lita's live sex show
I couldn't believe it when I saw Regal do that back in the day. I was thinking "WHY DID YOU NOT QUIT WHEN THEY ASKED YOU TO DO THIS?!" It probably boils down to how if you get a dream job (in this case, wrestling for WWE in front of big crowds), and your boss *knows* that it's your dream job, then they know that you'll put up with a lot of BS and even accept less money than you're worth because of how much your dream job means to you. So they take advantage of that and they get away with things they shouldn't.
When I was younger , I thought that was just an excuse for him to show his arse on television.
Making Trish crawl around the ring barking like a dog has to be up there.
@@BassAcoustic-ww1eu That definitely was all Vince's idea all the way up to the way they poured that crap on her afterwards and humiliated her publicly.
@@stanhooper59 I guess it's possible, but if I ever had that confirmed then I would ask him wtf he was thinking lol
New Jack has said in interviews "Vince has gotten away with murder, he has blood on his hands." Not sure to believe him, but has said that
Not a lawyer here, but with that caveat I think maybe you could make an argument for him being some kind of accessory in Nancy Argentino case. He did do his best to cover for Snuka.
New Jack very well may be onto something
Does anyone remember the Barry O story? Vince was exposed back then but folks seem to forget it. I didn't forget
Randy Orton’s Uncle
Yes
I would have fell out with Vince after the screw job and never speak to him again in life.
Story goes that Bret never *really* wanted to do business with McMahon again, and that the only reason he came back in 2010 was because WWE was getting ready to make a DVD that just totally buried him like "Self-Destruction Of The Ultimate Warrior" did to Jim Hellwig. Bret didn't want his history with the company rewritten like that, so he returned for a number of shows and patched things over enough with the company that they didn't want to bury him any more. (Speaking of which, it's amazing how much revisionist history WWE under McMahon has done. I'm old enough to remember the Monday Night War, and when I first heard WWE's version of the story, I rolled my eyes.)
@@Trustme77💯 Paul, James, and Rene all talked about that on the channel a while back
@@d.52555 Ah okay, I haven't been watching very long, so I missed that one.
@@Trustme77Hopefully, all the revisionist history will be undone one day...
Also keep in mind he protected Pat Patterson back in the day. The writing was on the wall even over 30 years ago
Snuka was before that.
I hear alfred hayes may have SA a young roddy piper
Im sorry but didnt this woman been doing this with Vince for around 3 years for money?
Like wtf are we talking about here
"doesn't surprise me"
My gf said that too. And she doesn't really watch it at all.
i’m sorry but i loved Vince’s character…always entertaining and funny
I cant fault Bret for this.
Vince is really the guilty one and dragged Brock into this mess. Wwe just erasing Brock without him being proven guilty is just a disgrace.
Vince used a girl as a bathroom then gave her a million. Joe Scarborough had a deceased female intern in his office. Not excusing Vince but there's definitely a political component.
Also on Smackdown with the Stacey Kiebler on the table.
Makes you think what Hawk was saying about HBK and Vince is true
1:30 I simultaneously believe in innocent until proven guilty and have no objection to wrestlers or others who've worked with him saying "Yeah, that sounds like the kind of thing Vince would do." Because yeah, Rene has interacted with Vince way more than I have, as have many others in the business weighing in. I'll still have my own opinion and it might not always line up with theirs, but they're still the most qualified to comment on how probable this is.
Really, all that's needed is verification of the text messages from the service provider and then it's pretty clear cut lol. I'm sure it'll get to that point in the court.
@@higler. Indeed. I'd think that it would be easy to prove one way or another whether those are legit texts or whether they were altered.
Vince screwed Vince
Hopefully you can get Bret on soon boys.
2000 to 2001 is where it started with Trish and Torrie
All of a sudden those who spoke negative about Bret Hart, now understand why he just speaks what he is thinking, well as far as Goldberg goes, that's water under the bridge...
Remember after Owen Hart died,he had the show continued
Wonder what taker thinks?
the goat speaks
Vince aint going to jail
Vince McMahon's biggest critic the undertaker is now his biggest ass kisser. Not a word from that hypocrite 😂
Undertaker is a 6 foot as kisser, along with the clique, al snow and all the old time asskissers of his.
Sadly yes, taker always struck me as vince's enforcer. Did he know? Dunno
@@chm9935 undertaker is one of the biggest backstage politicians and douchebags in wwe. Notorious for encouraging that sick hazing practice called wrestlers court. Wrestlers today are paid to say nice things about him or they lose their jobs and can't wrestle for other promotions
@@chm9935 undertaker is a bully and a prick backstage. Wrestlers are ordered to say nice things about him or they get punished. Wrestlers court is his creation. Sick hazing practice
He doesnt work there anymore no reason to comment if he doesnt want to. And calling him a hypocrite for no reason is the epitome of foolishness.
Good news reporting. Your channel has added another string to its bow
Vince McMahon is the hottest heel in the business right now
I’ve been watching the older stuff from 2003 and some of the segments are very foreshadowing theirs one in particular where Stephanie is going off at Vince for something and she mentions he used to send her out with high end talent and promise that talent she’d do anything for them with all these sex traffic allegations it’s kinda creepy
Maybe we can get Bret on the Cafe one day
Bret is based.
Hope so... there is video series of Vince s p stein mc mahon doing interview around the time of Montreal s..crew job where Mcmahon buried Bret Hart and pretty much call him bunch names and that he wasn't worth the money he was getting pay. And he wax like Broken horse and wax Old and didn't care he went to WCW..
Bret screwed Bret
What cemetery he in ?
This is the ashley and vince segment they are Talking about ruclips.net/video/UON4LZ03cv0/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Uncomfortable viewing to put it mildly.
Yes indeed my friend justice must come for ashley and the other women that have suffered at the hands of vice and co
Rene, Bischoff wanted to go in the dumpster
Vince seemed to go full blown deranged beta s!mp around 2001 to 2002.
Vince has literally lived his age, going to prison don’t make sense when you are already 75+. You can’t punish him 😂😅
His final days can still suck.
Hitman gets his revenge after having to wait in the long grass for 27 odd years. Justice served.
Hitman perhaps suffered most because of Mcmahon. Don't forget about Owen's tragic accident. We might never find the truth, but it's a possibility it was made on purpose. Bret still respected Vince after all these terrible events. I'm sure he never looked at him the same after 1997, but there still was that history between Bret and Vince. As much as he lost his respect for him, I believe he still hates Goldberg and Hogan more than Mcmahon 😅.
Bret is the Best there is The Best that there was any The Best that ever will be and I think that the thought of Owen Hart still has never left him when he died at Over the Edge 1999.
How did Bret bury Vince?!
Who's "Bert"?
Can’t forget the 2001 stuff with Trish as well
Perfectly executed by Bret.
maybe hes abusing too much tren lol
It started in 2000 with Trish Stratus kissing Trish in front of Linda on smackdown.
Vince is guilty before innocent because of all the NDAs to other women. Vince's NDAs have evil stories behind them.
I can’t watch old WWE now
Vkm
But yet Bret did business with Vince after Owens fall... And STILL respected him?
The fuck.
James or rene does all of this make sense now why John ace was hiring models with no talent for the divas era and the new womans era was the start of a cover up to maybe hide everything. Just a thought
I appreciate Bret having the spine to speak out against Vince unlike some other people (Mick Foley, Kevin Nash, Shawn Michaels all with horrible takes, crickets from The Undertaker), but it's a little odd that THIS was the last straw from Bret after Vince literally killed his brother. That would probably be a dealbreaker from me that I'd never talk to someone again outside of a courtroom.
It's capitalism. In Capitalism you have an employer/employee relationship similar to Slavery with a master/slave relationship. Oppressor/oppressed. One person has power (the employer) over the other person.
Being weird is okay. Being a POS is something else.
That's exactly why Vince McMahon family made wrestling scripted
Honestly, I'm glad I stopped watching WWE around early 2002.
I agree, when the Ruthless Aggression era started he took a leap of perviness. Innocent until proven guilty BUT as He is described it would obviously not be a surprise. If all true, He needs to be incarcerated for sure.
When Vince McMahon said he felt he stole Stephanie's innocence as if he personally "deflowered her" I knew he was a real life sick pervert. There is nothing entertaining about that.
Bret Hart speaks the truth all the time about Vince ❤️
Where’s the part when Bret says after Oldberg kicked him in the head Vince came out and did the poopy sexy on his head and used the Canuck flag to wipe
If you're saying that Bret has an axe to grind and has no reason to tell the truth, perhaps so. But Bret isn't saying anything that different from what people without axes to grind are saying.
Don't believe a word Bret Fart says..
Vince sucks.
Also, when’s La Resistance coming back?
Please, Bret was Hugging Vince's neck not too long ago. Owen died in the ring, vince had his body dragged off so the PPV Could g o on, yet Bret hugs him.
Stick with Bad News on this one...Bret is a punk & a jobber that marks out for himself. This is the most heat he's had in 20 years. Yet again, Vinny Mac giving him something to do, because nobody wants to pay to see Bret.
Montreal was a work