Rene Dupree REACTS To Ashley Massaro SHOCKING Vince McMahon ALLEGATIONS
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2024
- rene Dupree talks and unsurfaced allegations made by the late Ashley massaro towards vince mcmahon.
#renedupree #vincemcmahon #ashleymassaro 
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What you guys say has more value than ex wrestlers that won't tell the truth because they want a job.
Big time. Every one of their clips has been must watch especially during these times for that reason
Totally agree!
This Video is about Ashley… They Knew Ashley!!!
The worst was Nash. What he said was pathetic.
@russellcampbell3500 You don't think Rene knows people still working there or in the business? I meant that Nash wouldn't say anything even if he knew because he is always looking for a payday.
I never doubted Renee or Paul for a second . You can TELL in the way they tell the stories that they’re not “just bitter mid carders”. You can hear the pain
Not everyone that talks bad about your precious wwe is bitter 😊
Vince McMahon probably tried Rene Dupree
It's the fact they're so matter of fact. It never comes across as dudes bitter at their lot in life, it's a couple of dudes giving honest takes based upon their experience.
Their attitude and comments have aged like a fine wine
Ashley deserved better. She was such a cutie too.
Rest in piece Ash. 😭
What does too her both in Iraq and by Vince were joust inhuman!
Justice for Ashley Massaro!
I'm thinking Paul may have gotten released because he was with Ashley and Vince and Johnny were bullshit about it
Vince was always jealous of the guys who got with the women he really liked. That's why Rusev's stock plummeted after he and Lana got married irl
@@mr.awesome6011 oh my God I forgot that was a thing 💀 I did not know that Vince McMahon was going to hit that with Lana💀😭 That’s that’s crazy that’s crazy
Reminds me of the obvious burial of Rusev when he and Lana got married irl. EVERYONE saw that for exactly what it was, Rusev having heat because he had a hot wife. It had nothing to do with them 'ruining' a dumb storyline that they were involved in.
Rene seems like a very honest likeable guy. Gives me a lot more appreciation for all his work over the years now. Thank you for all you do and did.
I meet him a few years ago he is a nice guy
And how young he was breaking in. I still forget sometimes that he was under 21 years old on the main roster
Thank you guys for this. The truth is the truth. Vince you are done & you're never coming back.
Legacy ruined and deservedly so
These stories have been around for years but nobody with authority/power did anything about them or they weren't believed. Sick of the 'why didn't you speak out' crowd. People have been speaking out.
It's true people have been speaking put way back then, it's just that they were buried and trash tp the point where they made them seem like they were bitter and would tell "lies" for attention, it's a damn shame Rene and Paul were blacklisted to the point where the truth couldn't come out until now.
4:15 James perfectly describes the idiotic mentality of the iwc. Rene and other black balled individuals in the wrestling business have been keeping it honest for decades. Tracy Smothers, Paul London, Stevie Richards, Jason Sensation, Russo etc. Rene’s voice is considered less than these current supposed top guys with ‘critically’ acclaimed matches, who in reality, know Fck all about the psychology of drawing ALL TYPES of people to pay money to watch them. La resistance was over like rover. These “wrestlers” in wwe and aew are hollow, formulaic and factory produced and shoved so hard down the marks throats. They always come back for seconds.
Okay, back when Joey Stiles did the (worked) shoot on Raw after Lawler shoved him, he said, amongst other things, Vince made out with the divas to inflate his own insatiable ego. Before hearing the opening of the quote from the late Ashley Massaro on this video, I thought Joey was talking about things like the Trish Stratus angle where Vince made out with her in front of his sedated wife, Linda. All these years later and I hear that opening quote from Ashley... This is pure evil. And painfully heartbreaking.
I understand that season 5 of Dark Side of the Ring has already been filmed. But I think we can all agree that the ENTIRETY of season 6 onward could be souly focused on everything coming to light about Vince, Brock, Laurinitus, Kevin Dunn, etc.
Makes me wonder if the company will survive the coming years or even months.
I wouldn't be surprised if Paul Heyman has some skeletons he doesn't want unburied, seeing as he's associated with everyone who's guilty at this point.
Well since his friends openly joke about him being an unreliable thief you can wonder what his enemies think
Rene and Paul been speaking truth on this and other subjects the whole time I been watching this show which has been for a very long time. I believe there needs to be evidence when there are accusations of course it is just I cannot believe how many fans are so quick to defend Vince like he is their hero. Idol worship type BS the same thing we see with Biden, Trump and others people latch onto. At this point we know Vince has done his dirt there is no defending him.
I agree. Every accusation should be taken seriously, but there has to be convincing evidence to back it up. As much as it sucks for people such as Vince to victimize others (and he's definitely done that in one way or another, even if these particular allegations are somehow untrue) and be getting away with it for so many years, I personally believe that it would be worse if we did away with the presumption of innocence and made it much easier for people to get incarcerated, because there would be a lot more innocent people getting locked up than there are now. I don't want to see that, especially not when America has the largest prison population in the world right now; making it easier to convict people would make the problem worse. Just my opinion, though, and everybody is free to have a different one if they think I'm not making sense here.
@@Trustme77 Especially the fact that there is that idea planted in people's heads now to believe all allegations without evidence that is scary! Look at how Jericho was treated when that girl didn't even make accusations against him! The fans acted like he was guilty immediately!
@@jcriniti2644 I think the jury's still out on Chris, figuratively. But after Johnny Depp and Trevor Bauer, people shouldn't "believe all women" any more. And those famous cases aren't even getting into stuff like what happens in a divorce: imagine that you're fighting your ex-husband for custody of your children, who are the most important thing in the world to you. In that scenario, how many people might be tempted to say that the ex-husband was an abuser, so that they'd get custody instead? And of those tempted, how many would actually sink low enough to do it?
@@jcriniti2644 Replied to this already but I guess the algorithm didn't like something I wrote. I think that the jury's still out on Jericho, figuratively. Like if he did ask KLR to meet him in a room and it turned out he was alone when she was under the impression it would be a gathering, then what did he want exactly? Who knows...but honestly, after Amber Heard I think that everybody should have realized that they should not literally believe every single woman who accuses somebody of something, if there's no evidence. Sometimes--no idea how often, but clearly sometimes--it isn't actually the truth.
"Especially the fact that there is that idea planted in people's heads now to believe all allegations without evidence that is scary! "
Since it is notoriously difficult in every western country to get a conviction for sexual assault let alone rape (most women just keep it to themselves rather than to through this) I'd say that's far from true, by the way, Johnny Depp is still friends with all of those Hollywood creeps people claim to hate, but they love him because he charmed in the witness stand and proved Amber Heard to be an egotistical and disturbed liar, I don't think he proved himself to be completely innocent either, they strike me as a couple of very sick addicts with arrested development, surrounded by exploitative money grabbers , Heards Lawyer was perhaps the worst lawyer I've ever seen ,fiction or reality, but that court case was a fucking clown show from start to finish, public entertainment . Both of them ask sinister as fuck to me, "Hurr hurr Mega Pint!!!"
yes that's the takeaway from all this
Man, the real discussion is happening right here on this podcast. There are so many channels covering this story because it's trending, but it gets deep and real here. I wish the channel much growth and success, you guys truly deserve it for what you're doing here.
Hey Rene when I was 10 years old I was at the show in Sydney where you wrestled The Dudley's in 2003. That match was the highlight of the show and I didn't know you had such a fond memory of that match.
[REDACTED] has to be Lita. That Cryme Tyme segment was her last appearance.
I did wonder if it was her. Because heel or not, that was sure a strange way to send off someone who'd done so much to help make him a billionaire.
Paul will be get papers to go to court watch
I can see and feel the pain in Renes eyes and the pain and discomfort and disappointment in your eyes james. Love you guys. If it means anything you guys are like our family. R .i.p to the fallen of the ruthless aggression era😢
That's why Linda wanted nothing to do with Vince McMahon
People like Vince McMahon needs to be thought a lesson that you have freaking respect for women
Keep up the good work CDR.
I can't believe there are people still dying on the Vince hill. Why people ever worshipped him is a f*cking mystery to us.
Many years ago when talking about Vince's scummy conduct (I think it was the way he put the territories out of business), the OSW Review guys basically said that he really was a bastard, but that if it weren't for him they probably wouldn't have become wrestling fans because wrestling wouldn't have become a big deal without him doing that. I'm positive that they all have a lower opinion of Vince today, but I think that's part of the reason why other people don't *want* this to be true: nostalgia. They remember moments like Hogan slamming Andre or Austin winning the title, and they don't want the guy who they see as the genius responsible Rock 'n' Wrestling and the Attitude Era and so on to be...a guy like THIS. In a similar vein, I think that's why so many wrestling fans just kind of avoid thinking or talking about what Austin did to Debra all those years ago. Even though Austin pleaded no contest to those charges, they want to keep looking up to the guy as one of the all-time greats instead of looking down on him as a domestic abuser, so they maybe subconsciously look for reasons why they shouldn't hold it against him. Like "That was a long time ago" or whatever.
@@Daiyve Well, I sort of agree that he understands that. I think he understood it a whole lot better in the '80s and in the late '90s. But in more recent years, his ideas have been terrible a lot of the time. I'm not sure if Hunter is any better as a person, but he's sure as hell a better booker.
They’re liking the Vince McMahon character for Christ sake, not the real Vince McMahon. It’s currently allegations, nothing is proven. And what makes people dubious or care less, is the fact all these women chose money over him being tried in a court of law. If they really cared that Vince was so bad and didn’t want him to hurt other women, they’d have forgot about the money and gone to the police like a person with any morals would
And don’t try and call me a ‘victim blamer’ or any other woke trigger word.
It’s the truth. If someone with a history of knife crime stabbed you, you’d go to the police to get him locked up, you wouldn’t take a payment off him. It’s the same thing
@@Daiyve they’re defending the character as I said already. They don’t know the real Vince to defend him. Use your brain
Poor Ashley. One of my earliest wrestling memories was WrestleMania 24, seeing her with Maria & Santino. Years later, she followed me on Twitter & I couldnt believe it. I could tell she was a kind soul. Such a tragedy she passed so young.
When you talk about how Vince punished people by ruining their career, it's as heartbreaking as it is undeniable that that's exactly what he would do!
I'm a huge fan of RVD and when he was drafted to SmackDown in like 2004, I was so excited because I didn't have cable but now I could watch him wrestle. What i didn't know then, that's so obvious now, is that Vince was punishing him and Paul Heyman.
Vince McMahon has a son and a daughter, but that will never change the fact that his favorite child was, is, and always will be, Monday Night Raw!
And when SmackDown was kicking the crap out of Raw during the brand extension, Vince didn't try to make Raw better, he went out of his way to make SmackDown worse!
He took away Paul's position as booker and head of creative for SmackDown, and took his top star from ECW and sent him to SmackDown so that Paul could have a front row seat to watch Rob get humiliated.
I was pissed to watch every week as RVD was being forced to have slow matches and job every week to "The Dudley." Rob was literally kicked in the balls for 2 months and lost week after week against Bubba or D-Von. He wasn't allowed to have the awesome, fast paced, gravity defying matches that he pioneered. All because Vince wanted to punish Paul E.
Rene your my favorite wrestler in and out of the ring no one keeps it as real as you brother
Spot on gents. They really should all be here with is. Some of them wouldn't even be 50 now! I'd love to see Test & Renè catching up on the pod.
I wouldn't be surprised if Vince was paid by the "military doctor" for this to have happened. Vince's reaction to the entire situation is incredibly strange
Great interview Rene. Test passed less than 2 weeks after the tour in France.
It was the day before he was scheduled.to come.out for the 2nd tour
Johnny admitting he and Vince and the other cretins knew Ashley told the truth about her assault and Vince destroying her career and reputation hopefully will open them to lawsuits. Ashley and her family get justice.
All this coming to light. I can't help but wonder what the divas at the top have gone through
With all due respect, the silence is the problem. If you know anything or may have heard anything that supports Ashley’s story! Please speak up for her. She deserves that.
The Cafe always keeps it real, i remember you guys talking about this on an earlier episode, now it all came to light
This is an outstanding perspective. Thank you for having the courage to share it.
Keep fighting the good fight, boys!
Rene. James. You guys do an excellent job on this podcast. I enjoy the program. You guys really do bring a lot of value and credibility. And Paul too.
None of this surprises me. When I saw what he did on TV to Trish Stratus, I knew something was rotten in Denmark. Women until very recently and even to this day in the WWE are treated like eye candy who happen to wrestle. When someone like Rhea or Charlotte dare to be different, they stand out. They wrestle better than most of the guys. Nothing in that company surprises me anymore.
Let’s be fair. Women in wrestling were treated as eye candy as that’s what they were there for. The men wrestled and the women were good to see. Most people don’t want to watch women wrestle, that’s well known, same as womens boxing, or football, etc. It’s only when you started getting better women wrestlers that they were taken seriously. Back in the attitude era you only had Jaqueline, ivy and Luna who were good. And I stayed that way for a long time. Today rhea or Charlotte are better than most of the men is bollocks, that’s just a feminist statement. When they do things different, the stand out amongst a very average group of women in their division, that’s common sense
She could be your mother, sister or daughter. Debemos hacerlo viral
#justiceforashleymassaro
You are brave! Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Can you guys get better mics?
I enjoy the show but the echoing drives me nuts and I can never get through a full one.
Good work boys. Al Snow episode was a good watch as well.
I'm glad all these stories are coming out. Because for years, Vince has been a garbage human being and he should be held accountable for all the lives he's ruined by this predatory kind of behavior. So many are quick to defend him because they love the WWE. I say screw the WWE. I'm a huge pro wrestling fan but some things are way more important than wrestling. Not only Vince, but all his croonies that are involved should all be prosecuted for their crimes. It's a shame Ashley in particular was treated in this way during her time in WWE. So sad that it may have contributed to her suicide. That to me puts everything in context. Lives have been ruined and Vince never takes responsibility for his actions. It's about time karma comes back around.
Respect to Rene, Paul, and the rest of the team. I stopped watching WWF years ago because of what happened to many of my favourites like Test. I just couldn’t watch it anymore after all the losses. Glad to see you’re healthy.
Thanks
Thank you
I've actually pointed people in the direction of this channel because I remembered that Paul London talkin about it a year ago and people were still trying to defend Vince and saying oh why did they wait and all that and they talked about it long before this current scandal.
What a scummy business
No words.
Rene looks great, I would love to see him in AEW.
All the horror stories are now finally trickling out from ex wrestlers who wouldn't compromise their morals for Vince, and it just makes you wonder what top stars (both male and female) had to do over the years to both get and keep their spots. Makes me sick just thinking about it.
No one can go against the US Army in court and wins ..
They may prove Ash's accusation thanks to JL snitching, but Vince will take the fall alone on this one....
You guys are the real deal and Ive believed from day 1. There are differences between regular wrestling fans and Marks, the marks will use mental gymnastics to stay loyal and unconvince themselves the truth. This is heavy, I didn't know Cade passed let alone at my current age. Shouts out Renee Dupree for touching on everything, I kno this hard for you. Love Brother❤💯
Damn i loved Ashley 😢
I don’t like some of these comments blaming wrestlers for not speaking out , they would have been silenced and shunned , out of work . They’d have their pride but what’s that worth when you’ve got kids and families to provide for ? It’s not right but it’s life . Glad it’s coming out now
That's the thing that is really spot on about why so many if these stories went nowhere for so long is either people didn't believe it or they thought or knew it was true but where afraid to speak out about it and go crap there goes my career I have to go into another industry just to survive. This whole Vince thing alone is a pretty dark hole to go down just because even for people who knew Vince for years worked with him closely and just thought that doesn't sound like the person I know, but once they hit that point and go ok I believe it's such a shellshock look at Stephanie she up and left the only company she's worked her whole life at because after looking into it she seemed to think up to a point these were true and just said I can't and left.
Listen to her statement, Vince never showed her any attention and treated her like anyone else. She posed nude, which is nothing unnormal back then, but Vince suddenly began showing her attention and granting her access to things like the executive suits in hotels. I'm sorry, and I know Vince is wrong in the end, but ladies... especially ones that had the looks like Ashley; you gotta use your head. Vince by this time had a rep; she even noted he was making out with the girls in the back and the moment he/they offered her anything special she should of rejected it right there an then to send the signal that she's not interested. Once you accept the advancements, even what may seem innocent, from a man like Vince he's going to want something back. You're not dumb
"Your not dumb. It's actually you're. And nice victim blaming.
@@anthonypowell168 nice... I guess stay in your little world then.
@@EpicPour99 I have just seen your face on your stream and no wonder you don't like women. No woman would go anywhere near you 😂😂😂😂
Anyone who poses nude/sells themselves to strangers and thinks that taint will go away when they finally establish a family should think again. That taint will stay with them for the rest of their lives or worse, haunt them back in one way or another.
@@benjerison7074 i mean to be fair, Ashley's was atleast for playboy which is a little more tasteful. Now women in todays world that are making basically homemade porn in their bedrooms on a webcam for cash... they'll have some splaining to do to their children later. I can't imagine the bullying thats waiting those kids.
Those are his friends who died and dying for a machine that has no heart is bullshit and upsetting. Test Eddie Ashely umaga those were the best and kindest and died young died for what.
Respect to you Rene. I’ve loved this podcast for a while. I get emotional myself hearing ab you talk ab Test, Umaga, Lance and others. Never knew the business was like this when I loved watching it growing up. As I’ve gotten back into in the recent years, the ugly and dark side of wrestling has really shocked me. Makes me sad in a way I don’t know why.. it’s like I never knew what these guys were putting themselves through every night. Unbelievable. Again respect to you Rene x10 and Paul and James as well.
#JusticeForAshley
Yep I feel you. Rene I agree. I agree with what Scott aka Raven said y'all deserve insurance and y'all deserve time off to let injury heal unlike in the past it was go go go if you didn't your spot would be taking. Why most those names you mention took pills that isn't the way to go out. Look others they don't even mention there names no more they should get some credit.
Its sad how many people I've known that have died since his unforgiven 2003 tables match against the dudleys i'm only 34 this august and i've lost about 15 maybe 18 to 20 people so I feel the pain
This is just sad that it took this long to come out
michael hayes should be fired
If you guys invest literally just a small bit of $$ into the podcast for some better equipment like microphone and stuff you'd get a lot more viewership js. You have that raw no nonsense factor but you also need to take it up as far as the production goes. Can't be filmed on a potato forever.
Just bought new mic and cam
To be fair, sometimes false accusations are made against people in all walks of life, so I think the best thing to do when somebody makes an accusation is to think "Maybe it's true and maybe it isn't. This should be investigated so that everybody can find out once and for all." That being said, it works both ways; if you don't automatically believe accusers, you shouldn't automatically believe the accused either, so people shouldn't assume "Oh, they're making it up because they're bitter and they want money" or whatever.
Of course, most times with Vince it wasn't investigated, and considering all the stuff that we KNOW Vince has done (kept wrestlers from unionizing, worked them like dogs which kept them from their families and led to them using all kinds of drugs to keep up with the schedule, broke the promise he made to his own father that he wouldn't try to conquer all the other territories, allowed Bradshaw, Holly, Benoit, Taker and the rest to make life hell for young talent, probably most relevant to this was booking himself to make out with women like Trish and Torrie, and lots more)...in general, the guy's a POS. So if someone I know to be a POS happens to be the kind of POS who's also done what Janel Grant alleges and what Ashley alleged, it honestly wouldn't surprise me one bit.
This is unrelated but does anyone know why Rene records pitch black in a bathroom?
Sean O'Haire was such a cool dude. His passing hurt, man. I really liked his last WWE gimmick. Dude had a ton of charisma, sick gimmick, awesome ability and moveset. He would hae been a huge star, but Vince....
4:42 - Earphone wearer warning.
Hey Rene, Will you be wrestling this summer in Shediac?
And it took this long to get this info out???
It's all so fucking terrible. I'm sorry for all the friends you've lost.
Rene...Rene... Reeeene O' Ne... O' Ne... O' Ne...
Please invest in a microphone
Yeah they need to invest into a few things for this podcast
@@CHIP420BLITZthere really isn’t a better wrestling podcast than CDR though between the hosts the chemistry the honesty and the guests it is almost perfect. I’ll take the few audio problems to get what I mentioned and much more. They all have different laptops and mics and are all in different parts of the world so the audio isn’t going to sound as crisp as people together in real life doing podcasts in a room with soundproof walls and proper equipment.
Not the time man, doesn't matter about the microphone. This shit really had an impact on me.
I mentioned i heard the ashley story on here from paul a year ago and people didn't believe me xD i knew there were rumours of what happened to her a few years ago and always believed it. People refusing to believe these things cos ya'll were midcarders? Is dumb. If anything, it's more realistic cos life as a midcarder is what it is like there more so than being a main eventer. Tbh i think people don't wanna believe it and attack ya'll cos they don't want their childhood memories being ruined.
This is HUGE and i hope the feds get there hands on this. If they don't have it already which i'm quite sure they do. Vince is so screwed at this point it's beyond unbelievable. As i like to say he's up shits creek with only a fork for a paddle...(g)
vince clearly abused his power for years,and for a long time you basically had 2 options either go along with it or effectively end your career,before his removal it was still a similar story as although there are other options wwe is still the biggest promotion in wrestling
People should absolutely NOT comment on this business. Unless they have either been in that squared circle, or behind the curtain in some capacity. Be it booking, writing, etc...For "marks" to make blanket statements that have no clue what they are talking about. Is not only making yourself looking like an ass but is downright disrespectful. It's not just the physical aspects that take it's toll folks. As we are seeing it's the emotional and sometimes that's even worse in a BIG way. We are clearly seeing how Vince McMahon was a cold and calculating SOB. That had two personalities. The one you saw on TV or in front of the camera. And the other his "TRUE PERSONA" when he wasn't being filmed. I worked in promotional marketing for a local indy company plus i have been a VERY "smart mark" to this business for the better part of 30yrs now. I know A LOT not everything but enough to know what goes on behind the curtain. And it's not pretty at all. This is a cold and cutthroat business that can have it's rewards but also take it's toll on you. You have to be made or cut as i like to say from a different type of stone to endure what these men and women go through for our enjoyment. The sacrifices they make leaving family and friends often times struggling behind to take care of things while they are on the road. Would break most relationships quickly. When they say "married to the business" they aren't joking. So that all said, we ALL really need to give them far more respect and appreciation. For what they put themselves through and not just physically but MENTALLY for our enjoyment.
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Oh damn what a rollercoaster..
Like rene said he has the money he should’ve just hired high class escorts 🤦♂️ and not done stuff to his employees
It wasn't about sexual gratification, though. Rape never is. It's about enacting control, power, and narcissism. Though, let's be clear, many escorts and sex workers also do get raped and forced into acts they have not explicitly consented to or that are beyond their states boundaries, and that is unacceptable as it happening to anyone else.
@@pendafen7405 yeah vkm is fucked up…
I agree,.. get on Vinny’s bad side or don’t kiss his butt.. and he messes, if not destroys, your push/career. Thanks for the videos.
WWF/E fans were so happy that WCW died meanwhile it allowed Vince to become the ultimate predator and the fans really didn't know or in many cases care.😊
Massaro. Smh. Jfc
Rene and Paul weren't just nobodies. Rene is a former 2x tag team champion, one of the youngest ever, if I remember correctly. I don't know why he was never considered for a US title and Paul is a former Cruiserweight and Tag Team Champion. Just cause you didn't win the WWE Championship, doesn't mean your career was meaningless. Also, like I said FUCK DON TONY from the DTKC show for going around telling people lies about Ashley working as an escort and getting people to bully her
That poor woman took her life because nobody believed her. Where's her justice. Heartbreaking. Great video fellas. 😢
I remember how Ashley was written off tv in 07 in that segment were he suspends her for spilling coffee on him. He made her cry and was laughing at her . Looking back at it, Vince prob wanted Ashley to be afraid of him or he would ruin her if she tried to challenge
Vince is into some really secret occult stuff but here is part of the deal where its flipped on him now
Vince looking like a cross between walt disney and mike hagar.
How many people are still going to support Vinnie Mac and WWE after all of this like nothing happened? Probably a lot of people.
What are we wearing for Vince's downfall
Ashley Massaro was murderd
What's the real lowdown on ashley? I heard she got fired because she was an escort during the time she was employed at the wwe.
Now this isn't some dumb conspiracy theory there's articles on the internet about this. Soo what's up?
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