@@HappysFunPalaceThey are actually a thing, frighteningly. There is some debate on whether they are appropriate in schools... I swear on the last drop of my blood that if this happens to me and I find out it was fake; someone is getting their ass whooped.
Not only that but thinking the entire staff was going to read a MEMO at all let alone first thing in the morning is also idiotic to me. This was a dumpster fire on the management side of things but phenomenal work on the police side of things. The fact they didn’t shoot anyone is so lucky for those who were in charge and could’ve had blood on their damn hands and ruined families.. I’m glad they shut it down!
@@SanyaTheNightWitch69420because it’s incomprehensibly stupid. You can’t just do things because your boss tells you to. Especially stuff like this, you gotta go through the proper steps otherwise ppl can get killed.
This is absolutely criminal incompetence by the hospital management. Imagine the amount of trauma they caused to the patients and uninformed staff, plus the danger of being shot by the police who also believed it was an actual active armed intruder event. The director didn’t even seem that bothered, talking over the cop as he was questioning her. They put everyone at risk. Disgusting.
It sounds to me like she is a clueless old lady who holds the title of her job on paper but lets others do most of it for her in reality. "Oh I let So-n-So handle all that" type situation. 🙄
Completely agree w this comment . The staff are creepy, and I think this whole Hospital needs to be investigated considering the way they operate like this .
Cops: "Did you tell everyone about this drill beforehand?" Management: "Yeah, I sent out an email this morning." Translation: (A last minute email sent only minutes beforehand, without confirming everyone received it)
@billyyank5807 It was first thing in the morning... they literally JUST arrived to their shift. They didn't even have enough time to get to the email let alone read it before the drill starts.
I spent a bit of time in a psychiatric care facility when I was a teenager while I was struggling to manage my bipolar. I can confidently say that that many escapes is insane. And pulling a stunt like this is just... Unfathomable. Some of those kids would have had some pretty intense reactions. That's just so incredibly dangerous for so many reasons and on so many levels.
Right? Like let's just casually run a drill that will have police show up if mishandled, who are notoriously bad at handling mass shooting events and handling the mentally ill. People could have died so easily it's astonishing.
That is a ridiculous number of escapes considering it looks like a high security facility 😳 I get if it’s low security & people go out & don’t check back in or something, but would be counted as “absconded” but this?
@Copeandseethe822 Asking for myself….. you mentioned that you struggled with BP earlier in age. What steps do you take to assure that you don’t have another (in some circumstances) a deadly manic episode.
Holy crap. I have no idea how you can mess up such a simple protocol of announcing to EVERYONE that this was all a drill. But I'm glad no one got hurt.
Not hurt physically, no. I can imagine this has huge psychological reperccussions for both the staff, patients and police involved. How can they not think this through beforehand??
Have a meeting the day before, make sure EVERYONE who is working that shift knows then put a bloody read receipt on your emails! Get them to sign a disclaimer if you have to. Even if you just say that it'll happen sometime in the next few days, make sure everyone is on the same page!
@@Blue_Sonnet AND MAKE SURE THE FUCKING COPS KNOW YOUR DOING A DRILL, like damn, is it that hard to inform your local PD that your going to be having a drill?
@@Blue_Sonnetyou could probably stop the "drill" right there. Everyone can imagine what an active shooter would be like. The live demonstration seems pretty pointless.
I am absolutely sickened by the actions of the employees at this hospital!!! How in the hell do you not inform your staff it's a drill!?!? Sickening. 🤬
@@dcviper985 I disagree. I just turned 60 years old (GASP!!)and from the old school of drills where you are told what to do “before the bell goes off” scenarios. I have done countless fire drills from single story, multi-story, and skyscraper buildings. I have also taken advanced first aid and first aid floor captain training, then a lot of first aid training as an adult leader in Girl Scouts, and as a swim coach. So, in short, I’ve done a LOT of drills. In June this year I experienced an electrical fire in the bathroom fan in my apartment. So many things came together to keep the fire from becoming catastrophic. The fact that it was mid day, and I was wide awake versus it could have been raining and 2:00 am. I was sitting on the edge of my bed and looked over to see that my cat lying on the floor in the bathroom, staring intently at the ceiling was huge. He NEVER did that. Then suddenly a beautiful golden, heavenly glow spread across his features, getting brighter and brighter. I jumped to my feet. Damned if that cat, who was known to be mean as Satan’s right elbow, was going to be raptured to Heaven with no explanation before my precious dog or me? Well, I’d be grabbing on and holding his tail for dear life! Turns out, it was a far cry from the Pearly Gates a-callin’. The flames were already going straight up into the attic (I live on the second/top floor of an 8 unit building). I called 911 and, later after things died down, the Fire Chief said if I hadn’t done the things I’d done, in another 2-3 minutes tops, the entire building would have been a total loss. He said it would have rolled through the attic and taken the entire building out. Turns out, one of the things I did correctly, and without even thinking, was to close ALL the doors. It kept the air from being sucked from one area to another. Learned that from drills. I grabbed my meds. Learned that from drills. Grabbed my pets. Well. Of course, but drills too. Grabbed the bottled oxygen. Also learned from drills. So, YES. Basic drills where everyone is standing around giggling and seemingly not paying attention REALLY DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. To put it another way, if you were having a heart attack, wouldn’t you rather have the 18 year old kid that seems to recall something about doing chest compressions to the beat of that 1978 Oldies song performed by The Bee Gees, “Staying Alive.” And that they might feel ribs breaking but that means your doing it ok and to keep going till you can’t keep going anymore? I’d rather have that kid. I know that kid. She saved her grandfather! And she was 15!! So, loooong story short, DRILL. Why not? It gets you out of class!! Lol!!
i question the validity of this kind of drill entirely, what are they testing? unless they have a lot more armed people there to end the threat it's unlikely to make much of a difference what they do, especially if they have staff letting the "active intruders" through a back door. normally hospitals have pretty strict checkpoints with armed guards, or at least one at each door. but apparently these guys went in through a dock door bypassing any security they might have had. if they thought that was really a potential weakness why not address that concern by making sure only the security guards have the keys so they have to be there when the doors open until they close, and enough security personnel that actually know what to do and what to look for, when to call for help.
17 escaped patients in the span of two years. That's an escape every 6 weeks. Thank god they shut that place down. I've been admitted to many psychiatric facilities over the years. If they can't go more than 2 months without losing a kid, I can only imagine what other types of neglect and abuse went on in there. Also, not knowing an active shooter drill is a drill is one of the scariest things I've felt. My math class called 911 during a drill my Junior year in high school. Nobody knew that it was a drill except for the Principal and maybe 3 administrators. Not even the teachers or hall monitors knew. The 10 minutes we spent shaking in the corner believing that it was truly happening to us. The guilt of leaving my cellphone in my backpack and I couldn't text my mother that I loved her before I died. It was the most agonizing 10 minutes of waiting I'd ever felt at that point.
If it had been a real situation, it’s probably best that the phone was left in the backpack. Phones make noise, noise attracts the crazy. And most of us are nowhere near Wick enough to deal with crazy.
Everyone involved (during the initial police response on scene) did a great job. This could have easily ended up with dead bodies for no reason. Shame on the management staff for doing this kind of drill the way they did. Ridiculous.
They had report of an active shooter inside a children's hospital and their response was to wait outside in their gear while randomly screaming at victims.. How is that a great thing???
@andethidialbubabibub3261 what are u talking about they had literally just arrived and put their gear on when they came into contact with the staff. How are they supposed to know they were potential victims. They did exactly what they should have done.
The WORST thing about situations like this is police have no damn idea who they are looking for. 'intruders'. And just hold us not being able to speak to everyone involved, that they've got in okay. So frustrating and confusing for everyone. Glad this one was a false alarm.
No, the worst thing about situations like this are that they occur at all as symptom of what they were designed to solve. The right to bear arms has long lost its worth in modern society.
@@incubusrok How do you figure? Knives still exist. Axes. Those are reasons to have guns. Green River killer never used a gun or a knife. I bet anyone of those whores wished they had a cute little pistol on them when he was cutting off the oxygen and blood to their brains.
@@incubusrokhey there's a guy inside shooting people let's get all 50 of u outside guns pointed at the walls of instead of going in to make sure people are OK these cops are cowads
@@cuckertarlson5310seek therapy, your lack of empathy is not normal. And you can’t reload a knife or an ax, those are items that you can only really use on one person at a time. Guns (automatic rifles in this case) are designed to decimate multiple people, not just one so not only is your analogy callous and concerning but it’s also wildly nescient considering the facts of each of the weapons you named.
@incubusrok the sooner u ignorant liberal's realize that the guns aren't the problem the better off the country will be. If we were to ban all guns today the only people that would benefit is criminals. No matter how many guns you ban u won't stop criminals from obtaining guns through the criminal underworld.
Having two employees grab prop guns and take up positions like they're about to start a massacre, WITHOUT WARNING ALL THE STAFF, is such an incomprehensibly stupid decision. It almost sounds like the hospital was trying to do a "SHOOTING UP KIDS IN A HOSPITAL PRANK (GONE WRONG)' video
I don't think there were any actual weapons or props used, they just announced they had guns for the drill, and the 911 callers reported it, ridiculous situation, need to just inform the police first!
I can't believe that staff was stupid enough to run such a drill. Like what did they expect announcing an active shooter ? What if someone inside carried a gun and shot the guy ? Like wtf ?
They also thought a morning memo was a good delivery notice… you know how hard it is to get everyone to read those? Impossible.. Can confirm, I woulda been that nurse calling in the closet! And it would’ve destroyed me if I found out I was part of what got someone killed. It wouldn’t have been her fault at all but I’ll bet it would’ve felt like it… Jesus, I’m hurting for lost lives and destroyed families of a HYPOTHETICAL situation! I guess because even 1 second handled differently could’ve been tragic..
Then on the flip side, if a real one happens, people will ask why they weren’t trained to respond correctly. This here is a case of really bad communication for sure. But people should get trained.
The most glaring thing to me is the lack of communication between the agencies on scene. Seems one set of cops has it close to being settled while on the other side, they are still treating it as active. That can be very dangerous during an actual event.
1. The playback footage might not have actually happened at the same time, or played in this video at the correct timing of events. 2. If some random guy told the police its all a drill and the police had multiple calls saying its an active shooter, that is not enough reason to stand down and treat it as settled.
@@disguisedcat1750did you miss the part where one of 2nd set of guys was getting a phone call from his boss from the 1st set? it's not rocket surgery to piece together a rough idea on the timeline.
It could have been a different jurisdiction or agency, seeing as neither of you correcting each other here remember him saying you see that trooper way down there I don’t believe they know this is a drill either.
@@vegasponyall of you missed the “ do you see the trooper way down there “ which is a clear indication of different agencies on scene not all in direct radio contact which is normal
An unannounced active shooter drill?!?! You bet your ass I’d be calling 911 too if someone said there was an active shooter without stating that it was a drill. That could have turned out very differently.
One thing cops really need to be trained to recognize is that people sometimes laugh when they are nervous. No idea why some of them don't understand that.
@@billyyank5807 I mean a bunch of the public would have seen dozens of cops responding towards that area, so would piece together that somethings going on there. Get real.
This "hospital" is a disgrace. Shameful what they did and now are being sued by the employee who was arrested and I hope he gets his pockets lined for the rest of his life. This was a preventable situation and the police and the hospital need to be held accountable.
I work at an assisted living facility where everybody has dementia & they're constantly trying to escape; we do drills at our place too, our boss will walk out & dramtically announces a resident is missing, and everybody has to drop what they're doing & start looking..this happening is ridiculous..smh.
That’s what I was wondering. Tearing down and building to build the same thing and waste tax money is a poor solution. The guy who does unannounced active shooter drills probably came up with that decision.
Thankfully, these police officers used extreme caution when arriving on the scene, for this could've easily turned into a bad situation for these 4 men who were conducting a drill.
I had a visit in a psychiatric hospital before and I can tell you, that with the trust issues and paranoia I already had, additionally getting amplified by the hospital itself and the people around me, if there was an active shooter "drill" like this I know for a fact I wouldve done something dangerous, either to someone else, myself by attempting escape or I wouldve gotten my shit handed to me by another patient. I was there just for a case of serious depression, I came in as a limp noodle with no strength, I barely lifted my arm up to sign the documents. However, some of my copatients were addicts, drug criminals, a few maniacs and a chick with a more severe case of depression, it was to the point where she wasnt trusted around plastic cutlery and was strapped to bed every night. If shit hits the fan and I think were all about to get shot up, you know for a fact im unstrapping that girl first and getting her all the possible weapons in the building, then either smashing the window or hiding somewhere to get a jump on the shooter. Again thats my thought process and I was the mild patient. Absolutely ridiculous A friend i made there was a Jehova's witness tho, doubt even a real shooter would want to fuck with that
I was in a mental hospital once suffering "acute schizophrenia" from a drug related serotonin syndrome incident for like 3 days. Didn't believe that anything happening was actually as it appeared. Don't even want to think how I would have reacted there, and afterwards.
I literally work for state ran hospital and you have to notify every department necessary whenever it comes to running a drill. Them saying they got bad advice is a straight up cop out
I've worked in nursing homes over the years and we had ankle monitors on all the residents that were at risk of running away. They automatically caused the doors to lock if they got within ten feet.
i don't think they're terribly expensive. we had about 6 or 7 people at a time on monitors. but it's great to keep wandering folks from wandering. it's worth it.@@jeremyroland5602
Here places like that just generally aren't on the first floor and the windows are basically unbreakable and don't open. Mental patients? Second floor. Geriatrics? Third. Doors only open when opened by staff behind the counter with a key card so you have to otherwise buzz in and out and can only do so during set hours at which point the elevators are also turned off so stairs become the only option. You're not getting out easily.
I just wanted to mention the 'heavy gear' means adding a 'hard' vest. They already wear a bullet proof vest, but one that protects mainly from handgun rounds. It might aswell be a denim jacket when it comes to rifles. The 'hard' vest protects from rifles. Even if lower levels of armor can stop a bullet, it can result in a 'punch' that can literally break ribs, stop your heart, and/or destroy your organs.
@ItMeArchie pretty much 100% correct, there's a few different 'plastic' plates that can stop rifles but this is atypical. It's easier to spend $200 on soft armor, and $200 on plates than it is to spend $800+ for a slightly in between solutions. As usually the hard armor they buy will prevent armor piercing rounds, which the expensive plates I'm talking about won't. How common are armor piercing rounds for everyone else? Well there's 2 types explicitly legal, green tip 556 and black tip 3006, your paying a premium (like 10cpr to 100cpr more) More money does nor equal more better. There are huge teams designing projectiles for terminal ballistics, other teams for external, and when you spend the time reloading you are the internal ballistics expert. All are way different.
I went to a residential rehab at 14 and escapes were extremely common in the underaged units. The care I and others received there was horrible and unlawful. I’m 17 now, but I can easily say 12 recent escapes are not normal. Something is happening there to those children, or the priorities of that place are jacked.
I was a maintenance supervisor in a nursing facility and I scheduled and ran all of the emergency drills. Especially when you have people with any form of mental illness or condition, you NEED to make sure all staff and residents have SOME knowledge of what's going on.
I'm not from the US so all of this is insane to me anyways but the fact that people are doing UNANOUNCED shooter drills is crazy. Isn't that just trauma and ptsd waiting to happened?
The hell were they thinking?! Of course the uninformed staff are gonne freak out and call the police. Those poor people went through so much anxiety for no reason. Not only did they fail to inform police of the drill, the numbnut who got tje email aboit the drill didn't forward it to everyone on staff. I'm glad a new facility will be built. Hopefully the ones responsible for this blunder won't be returning once it's opened.
As someone who's been in a mental facility,pediatric and adult facilities having an UNANNOUNCED ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILL with mentally ill and more than likely unstable patients is horrifying, ive seen people fly into a rage in these places because they didn't like what was on tv or were confused and didnt understand where they were. I cannot imagine the horrendous things that couldve gone wrong during this,bodies piling up,psychotic breaks,escapees, im glad things did not go that way and that they were eventually shut down and are currently getting a complete makeover. That gave me anxiety just to watch.
I went to a psychiatric hospital and learning that there were around 15 escapes is insane. Each facility needs to have extensive security measures so nobody escapes because it is dangerous for the public and the escapee to be roaming around. Good thing this place is shutting down
That officer talking to the hospital director was PISSED! And the director would not just be quiet and listen.... "I cannot apologize enough..." Ma'am, this was terribly planned.
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I saw a deal where they were filming a movie. They were filming the inside the bank scenes when a cop, not knowing they were doing a movie randomly rolled up to the bank. It was the cop's bank and he was planning to go take care of bank business when two gunmen (that were actually actors) burst out of the bank. The cop was very supersized and immediately pulled his gun, pointing it at the bank robbers and started yelling instructions. The plan had been to shoot the inside scenes than film the planned shootout with police For just an instant one of the actors was thinking, "Are we doing the shoot out now? but realized this was a real cop, with a real gun loaded with real bullets who is thinking he's just rolled up on a real bank robbery. Fortunately both ackers dropped their guns and did everything the cop told them to do. It didn't take long, and to make it up to the cop the director cast him as one of the cops in the shoot out. Things can get scarry fast when the cops think it's real and the actors thing the cops are taking part in the drill or the action.
This literally happened at my school last year too LOL. entire police force showed up within 2 minutes and swarmed the school. Everyone was panicking, turns out the hired electrician accidentally turned the alarm on, and everyone started freaking out, including the principal, because it wasn’t planned. A bunch of kids were traumatized and sobbing.
What if one of the unaware members of staff was armed and shot these guys, let alone the cops potentially shooting them? And what about visitors at the hospital? I'm interested to know how they planned this. Not well, for sure.
Whoa this happened right next to me and I had no idea! Michigan police are amazing. It's weird hearing the narrator mention places I'm familiar with in the real world.
What a cluster! Great cops. Sad how traumatic this was for the kids, but kudos to the staff for trying and kudos to the cops for the way they handled this shit show.
17 in 2 years is some movie prison level security. That's insane. In a collective 5 months in such facilities over the years, I saw 1 escape attempt and it ended in a quick syringe to the ass under 3 guards.
I volunteered to be the code pink child abductor on a maternity unit at a military base. I made it all the way to the back hall where the doll was wrapped in a blanket, grabbed it and walked to the stairs which led to the outside electric doors and ran until I got all the way out. I was about to breathe a sigh of relief when two very large hands were grabbing my shoulders, lol. Little did I know that this massive anesthesiologist saw me and ran after me. He was ready to pummel me while I'm yelling exercise, exercise, exercise and trying to show him the doll. He was mortified that he was about ready to pummel me & it wasn't something I hadn't anticipated when I volunteered. Can't imagine what could have happened if they had scrambled the security police without telling them.
As an added twist, it turned out the manager, security guard and two shooters were all patients at the hospital. The real manager and guard were found locked in a room with no phones.
Thanks for the video. This was an unbelievable circumstance. I get it, it was to see how staff would respond to a specific situation in the hospital, but when my guy said MSP told him he did not have to let anyone authoritative know beforehand, he was referring to the Michigan State Police? Because if so, he need to have gotten that in writing. The staff are going to be scared, frightened, goodness knows how they would react. Some could have run out in sheer panic, I'm not certain it was the right thing to have done. You want to prepare in case of a scenario? Brief your staff, let them know PRECISELY what to do, train them through exercises, done. It was like pulling a prank for laughs. I mean, someone calls 911, saying there are not one but TWO active shooters, with semi-automatic rifles, upon the grounds of a children's psychiatric hospital? Four days before Xmas? Yeah, expect a show of force. The officers did their thing, moved cautiously, no shooting, no panic, surveyed and got to the bottom of it. Now they've closed down the hospital. Sounds like it was some time coming. It might not be much to those on the outside, but clearly the officers involved were on it until it was established, and that's when they breathe a sigh of relief. Can't imagine it was all hot dogs and doughnuts going into it, and thankfully it ended well.
I was a dispatcher for 10 years. Dozens of active shooter drills conducted at numerous different places. Literally all police/fire/ems and dispatchers in the area were notified days in advance. This is ridiculous.
They did that to us in school as well. Ran into the gym and screamed “SHOOTER IN THE 7th GRADE HALLWAY!” That was the most retarded thing ever. I also got detention because i went to go get my sister 😑
Wow, the fact we have to have these drills in the first place is insane!! Anyone over 50 will know this kinda stuff never used to happen and now we have over 600 mass shootings in a fricken year!?
I am only 32 but school shootings had just started and became a thing and the first drills were terrifying and it’s now the norm to have multiple shooters a year. Kids are raised by the internet now and I do think I’m a much more empathetic person because my parents raised me. I was blessed with having good ones though.. I know things weren’t perfect but it would’ve been nice living in a time where you could go to the movies and a shooting wouldn’t go down.. An innocent bystander was shot last week when a road rager had been cut off by a STUDENT DRIVER CAR.. how little life means to others is terrifying. Sorry for the whole rant but I think that shooting is still bothering me. Barely made the news.. the woman shot was a mother and a brand new grandma trying to buy baby stuff at The Children’s Place.. Having good grand parents is an honor not a privilege for some jackass to take. Breaks my heart for her daughter who’s a new mom..
@@KrikZ32 on the contrary, mass shootings have always made the news, and people have always been aware of them. The reality is that the frequency of mass shootings has been on the rise in America over the past 40-50 years - and it would take a wilful blindness not to see that rise connected to the shift in gun culture in America, pushed by the NRA, with the financial backing of arms manufacturers, most visible on the legal side in the shifting interpretation of the second amendment to go from “a well regulated militia” to individual rights.
The antigun groups definiton of a mass shooting is 4 or more people getting shot in one incident even if there is no fatality. 98% of these are gangbangers and domestic violence. Random mass shootings are still rare. There are no drills for gangbangers shootings or domestic violence cases where the far majority of "mass shootings" happens. Just as the antigun groups says that guns are the number 1 killer of children. The just redefine the definition of a "children" as up to 19 years old and those are mostly gangbangers. Take that out and redefine "children" up to 18 year old, it is behind vehicle accidents. And they don't include "children" under 1 year old where crib death is the number 1 killer. Propaganda at it's best.
It's a bit concerning that this is the route a children's hospital chose to take as opposed to like, literally almost anything else. Maybe they should be looked into. Oh, never mind, they actually have been looked into!
Hey thanks for this info. My half sisters (twins) were in Hawthorn in the mid 90s for 5 years and they had gotten just about no education and it was/is fckin sad. I am glad to hear that they are closing.
They need to stop calling an intruder an "active intruder" because everyone they dealt with, including even people in the comments, keep turning that into "active shooter".
Pure negligence from the facility and it’s staff, my thoughts are with the patients who must have been terrified. It’s really sad that these drills are needed
Glad to hear it got shut down. I was going to say someone if not multiple people need to loose their jobs over this. That is absolutely absurd that the entire staff wasn't aware it was a drill and 911 got called. It's so easy to imagine that having ended with one or more people shot to death by the responders.
Im not a fan of the police but the fact that they handled this so well and understandably is heart warming. They knew the facility and its patients so they where extra cautious to not breach and put many lives at risk, especially those who are emotionally weak or vulnerable such as myself. Sure im not in a facility but if it was me in there i would have been terrified! Again! Not a fan of the police at all… but they handled this damn well so good on you men and women involved and how you handled it. Seriously, Glad to know we have them for when things get bad. Years ago this would have turned out to be a blood bath easily. As for the person who didn’t notify the PD and others who where supposed to be notified, they should be thoroughly investigated and questioned for even considering such an idea
Most police are good people, not like the very few bad ones that are shown in the media (which is statistically less than 1% of all cops). The bad cops get a lot more attention than the good ones which leads people to believe that all cops are bad (which is really unfair to the good ones) so I would like to ask you this. Why are you not a fan of the police?
There is no need to censor the dialogue. If members of law enforcement are allowed to yell those words in the presence of a children’s hospital, then it is clearly safe enough to be heard by the rest of us.
That was incredibly irresponsible. Not only put their staff in danger, but pulling police resources that could have been used to help people in actual distress.
Sometimes I feel like as a job requirement 911 operators should be given a crash course on how to appropriately and empathetically extract the information necessary to assist callers who may be in dire situations or experiencing a state of shock or dissociation. They could already be doing so but if so theres alot of shocking phone recordings made public that show a good few of operators could use a refresher course. In saying this I do understand this does not reflect on all operators and that the majority are truly selfless, protectors of life that are creating miracles daily and love doing so.
Announcing the drill would kind of defeat the pupose of having it !!!! And those patients can be cuckoo and hard to handle (even deadly)a resident of mine was killed by a teen girl she was kicked in the head a bunch of times !!
No it doesn’t. I learned from earthquake drills that we knew we had that definitely helped more than nothing. Just because something isn’t perfect or only practiced doesn’t mean it will be worthless when it comes time to need it. I’m definitely glad that my neurosurgeon practiced the best he could before I needed him.
Im so confused by the multiple staff members being like oh well this is the first time the members actually called 911 during a drill. Is that allowed anyway even during a drill wouldnt multiple people calling 911 block up the dispatch lines? And how did they confirm it last time by checking phones?
What truly amazes me is how nobody served any time in jail. Like you could have an unpaid parking fine and get jail time. But you do an unannounced active shooter drill and at worst, lose your job?
I'm sorry, but that management lady is the reason why stereotypes exist. I'm not anti-feminist, nor am I a feminist, but 42 years on this planet has made me see a lot of things and see how people react to certain situations. This situation could've gotten ugly, all due to an incompetent lady. She should've notified the entire staff so they can notify patients.
This is Michigan, alot of us carry (me included) That's a scary stunt to pull, if someone is pointing across parking lot and saying that man has gun and is trying to kill people, it could have ended a lot different.
This is why we need more guns! If those hospital staff were armed here, someone could’ve MISTAKENLY been shot, turning a drill into the real thing! Except since there’s so many people armed, now it’s actually a warzone, but still, GUNS FOR ALL!
@@smokejc I think he's being sarcastic. The employees wouldn't have been justified in shooting the intruders since there were not even props. I might be misremembering that though.
@@smokejcthe OP was actually being sarcastic. I was pointing out the absurdity of their phrasing and assuming that everyone would be running around shooting.
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Having unannounced active shooter drills at a mental hospital. That is, ironically, INSANE
are unannounced shooter drills a thing? seems insane in any scenario to me
Not just a mental hospital. A CHILDRENS mental hospital.
@@HappysFunPalaceThey are actually a thing, frighteningly. There is some debate on whether they are appropriate in schools... I swear on the last drop of my blood that if this happens to me and I find out it was fake; someone is getting their ass whooped.
Hospital staff: ‘-whaaaaat? We fuck around here’
Exactly
The dummy who decided to have an active shooter scenario without notifying the local PD needs to be fired and sued by the city.
i mean why? He was told NOT to call it in by the PD...
Not only that but thinking the entire staff was going to read a MEMO at all let alone first thing in the morning is also idiotic to me. This was a dumpster fire on the management side of things but phenomenal work on the police side of things. The fact they didn’t shoot anyone is so lucky for those who were in charge and could’ve had blood on their damn hands and ruined families.. I’m glad they shut it down!
@@SanyaTheNightWitch69420because it’s incomprehensibly stupid. You can’t just do things because your boss tells you to. Especially stuff like this, you gotta go through the proper steps otherwise ppl can get killed.
@@SanyaTheNightWitch69420 MSP told them not to call it in - big difference that’s the Healthcare managed services program. No one asked the police…
msp is not pd. @@SanyaTheNightWitch69420
This is absolutely criminal incompetence by the hospital management. Imagine the amount of trauma they caused to the patients and uninformed staff, plus the danger of being shot by the police who also believed it was an actual active armed intruder event. The director didn’t even seem that bothered, talking over the cop as he was questioning her. They put everyone at risk. Disgusting.
It sounds to me like she is a clueless old lady who holds the title of her job on paper but lets others do most of it for her in reality. "Oh I let So-n-So handle all that" type situation. 🙄
Sounds like it was just ONE STUPID WOMAN to blame.
I agree with this assessment
Completely agree w this comment . The staff are creepy, and I think this whole Hospital needs to be investigated considering the way they operate like this .
@@loveli420Pretty typical for a hospital administrator then.
Cops: "Did you tell everyone about this drill beforehand?"
Management: "Yeah, I sent out an email this morning."
Translation: (A last minute email sent only minutes beforehand, without confirming everyone received it)
typical bureaucratic bullshit.
Pay attention to internal communications.
@billyyank5807 It was first thing in the morning... they literally JUST arrived to their shift. They didn't even have enough time to get to the email let alone read it before the drill starts.
i laughed when she said “yes, this morning” LOL. seriously, the management handled this drill in the worst possible way.
@@ryanthompson3737 mail or email? cuz email is fast and everyone is on their phone. Thats a lame ass excuse that would only work in the 90s.
I spent a bit of time in a psychiatric care facility when I was a teenager while I was struggling to manage my bipolar. I can confidently say that that many escapes is insane. And pulling a stunt like this is just... Unfathomable. Some of those kids would have had some pretty intense reactions. That's just so incredibly dangerous for so many reasons and on so many levels.
Right? Like let's just casually run a drill that will have police show up if mishandled, who are notoriously bad at handling mass shooting events and handling the mentally ill. People could have died so easily it's astonishing.
That is a ridiculous number of escapes considering it looks like a high security facility 😳 I get if it’s low security & people go out & don’t check back in or something, but would be counted as “absconded” but this?
@Copeandseethe822 Asking for myself….. you mentioned that you struggled with BP earlier in age. What steps do you take to assure that you don’t have another (in some circumstances) a deadly manic episode.
Thats possession. Pray to Jesus@@jpdillig8553
@@jpdillig8553He twerks in tiktok videos to Ice Spice, and that helps him control his Blood Pressure 😆 😮
Holy crap. I have no idea how you can mess up such a simple protocol of announcing to EVERYONE that this was all a drill. But I'm glad no one got hurt.
Not hurt physically, no. I can imagine this has huge psychological reperccussions for both the staff, patients and police involved. How can they not think this through beforehand??
Have a meeting the day before, make sure EVERYONE who is working that shift knows then put a bloody read receipt on your emails! Get them to sign a disclaimer if you have to. Even if you just say that it'll happen sometime in the next few days, make sure everyone is on the same page!
Suprise
@@Blue_Sonnet AND MAKE SURE THE FUCKING COPS KNOW YOUR DOING A DRILL, like damn, is it that hard to inform your local PD that your going to be having a drill?
@@Blue_Sonnetyou could probably stop the "drill" right there. Everyone can imagine what an active shooter would be like. The live demonstration seems pretty pointless.
I am absolutely sickened by the actions of the employees at this hospital!!! How in the hell do you not inform your staff it's a drill!?!? Sickening. 🤬
It sort of defeats the purpose of a drill.
@@dcviper985 I disagree. I just turned 60 years old (GASP!!)and from the old school of drills where you are told what to do “before the bell goes off” scenarios. I have done countless fire drills from single story, multi-story, and skyscraper buildings. I have also taken advanced first aid and first aid floor captain training, then a lot of first aid training as an adult leader in Girl Scouts, and as a swim coach. So, in short, I’ve done a LOT of drills.
In June this year I experienced an electrical fire in the bathroom fan in my apartment. So many things came together to keep the fire from becoming catastrophic. The fact that it was mid day, and I was wide awake versus it could have been raining and 2:00 am. I was sitting on the edge of my bed and looked over to see that my cat lying on the floor in the bathroom, staring intently at the ceiling was huge. He NEVER did that. Then suddenly a beautiful golden, heavenly glow spread across his features, getting brighter and brighter. I jumped to my feet. Damned if that cat, who was known to be mean as Satan’s right elbow, was going to be raptured to Heaven with no explanation before my precious dog or me? Well, I’d be grabbing on and holding his tail for dear life!
Turns out, it was a far cry from the Pearly Gates a-callin’. The flames were already going straight up into the attic (I live on the second/top floor of an 8 unit building). I called 911 and, later after things died down, the Fire Chief said if I hadn’t done the things I’d done, in another 2-3 minutes tops, the entire building would have been a total loss. He said it would have rolled through the attic and taken the entire building out. Turns out, one of the things I did correctly, and without even thinking, was to close ALL the doors. It kept the air from being sucked from one area to another. Learned that from drills. I grabbed my meds. Learned that from drills. Grabbed my pets. Well. Of course, but drills too. Grabbed the bottled oxygen. Also learned from drills.
So, YES. Basic drills where everyone is standing around giggling and seemingly not paying attention REALLY DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
To put it another way, if you were having a heart attack, wouldn’t you rather have the 18 year old kid that seems to recall something about doing chest compressions to the beat of that 1978 Oldies song performed by The Bee Gees, “Staying Alive.” And that they might feel ribs breaking but that means your doing it ok and to keep going till you can’t keep going anymore? I’d rather have that kid. I know that kid. She saved her grandfather! And she was 15!!
So, loooong story short, DRILL. Why not? It gets you out of class!! Lol!!
Go cancel them, sunshine.
i question the validity of this kind of drill entirely, what are they testing? unless they have a lot more armed people there to end the threat it's unlikely to make much of a difference what they do, especially if they have staff letting the "active intruders" through a back door. normally hospitals have pretty strict checkpoints with armed guards, or at least one at each door. but apparently these guys went in through a dock door bypassing any security they might have had. if they thought that was really a potential weakness why not address that concern by making sure only the security guards have the keys so they have to be there when the doors open until they close, and enough security personnel that actually know what to do and what to look for, when to call for help.
@@dcviper985 you can practice a drill AND know when it will happen...
17 escaped patients in the span of two years. That's an escape every 6 weeks. Thank god they shut that place down. I've been admitted to many psychiatric facilities over the years. If they can't go more than 2 months without losing a kid, I can only imagine what other types of neglect and abuse went on in there.
Also, not knowing an active shooter drill is a drill is one of the scariest things I've felt. My math class called 911 during a drill my Junior year in high school. Nobody knew that it was a drill except for the Principal and maybe 3 administrators. Not even the teachers or hall monitors knew. The 10 minutes we spent shaking in the corner believing that it was truly happening to us. The guilt of leaving my cellphone in my backpack and I couldn't text my mother that I loved her before I died. It was the most agonizing 10 minutes of waiting I'd ever felt at that point.
Shame you didn't have any responsible adults with guns to protect you kids.
@@homelessalcoholic2716 I hope that is sarcasm
@@DETOXKYTThat's a very reasonable statement, why do you think he's being sarcastic?
If it had been a real situation, it’s probably best that the phone was left in the backpack. Phones make noise, noise attracts the crazy. And most of us are nowhere near Wick enough to deal with crazy.
You’ve been admitted to mental hospitals? And you’re bragging about it why? Seek help.
Everyone involved (during the initial police response on scene) did a great job. This could have easily ended up with dead bodies for no reason. Shame on the management staff for doing this kind of drill the way they did. Ridiculous.
They had report of an active shooter inside a children's hospital and their response was to wait outside in their gear while randomly screaming at victims..
How is that a great thing???
@andethidialbubabibub3261 what are u talking about they had literally just arrived and put their gear on when they came into contact with the staff. How are they supposed to know they were potential victims. They did exactly what they should have done.
@@andethidialbubabibub3261they were not "waiting outside"
@@andethidialbubabibub3261lol u wanted them to sprint past suspects and run in guns ablaze
Seems very lucky nobody died. Particularly those staff members who were acting as "intruders".
The WORST thing about situations like this is police have no damn idea who they are looking for. 'intruders'. And just hold us not being able to speak to everyone involved, that they've got in okay. So frustrating and confusing for everyone. Glad this one was a false alarm.
No, the worst thing about situations like this are that they occur at all as symptom of what they were designed to solve. The right to bear arms has long lost its worth in modern society.
@@incubusrok How do you figure? Knives still exist. Axes. Those are reasons to have guns. Green River killer never used a gun or a knife. I bet anyone of those whores wished they had a cute little pistol on them when he was cutting off the oxygen and blood to their brains.
@@incubusrokhey there's a guy inside shooting people let's get all 50 of u outside guns pointed at the walls of instead of going in to make sure people are OK these cops are cowads
@@cuckertarlson5310seek therapy, your lack of empathy is not normal. And you can’t reload a knife or an ax, those are items that you can only really use on one person at a time. Guns (automatic rifles in this case) are designed to decimate multiple people, not just one so not only is your analogy callous and concerning but it’s also wildly nescient considering the facts of each of the weapons you named.
@incubusrok the sooner u ignorant liberal's realize that the guns aren't the problem the better off the country will be. If we were to ban all guns today the only people that would benefit is criminals. No matter how many guns you ban u won't stop criminals from obtaining guns through the criminal underworld.
Having two employees grab prop guns and take up positions like they're about to start a massacre, WITHOUT WARNING ALL THE STAFF, is such an incomprehensibly stupid decision. It almost sounds like the hospital was trying to do a "SHOOTING UP KIDS IN A HOSPITAL PRANK (GONE WRONG)' video
I don't think there were any actual weapons or props used, they just announced they had guns for the drill, and the 911 callers reported it, ridiculous situation, need to just inform the police first!
The lady who called the police said she knew it was a drill. And that she knew memos were sent out about it, too.
@@marcamusprime9513why did she call 911 then???
@@trash_bender420 She knew it would make for a fire EWU bodycam video
This comment is not true. They didn’t have prop guns, and it appears the staff didn’t read the memo.
"Understaffed," Yeah, I'd think that a hospital that runs drills like this would also do a few other dumb things that would convince people to quit.
I can't believe that staff was stupid enough to run such a drill. Like what did they expect announcing an active shooter ? What if someone inside carried a gun and shot the guy ? Like wtf ?
this is what gets me. not one person thought 'this might get somebody innocent shot for no reason'. we are a truly stupid society.
They also thought a morning memo was a good delivery notice… you know how hard it is to get everyone to read those? Impossible.. Can confirm, I woulda been that nurse calling in the closet! And it would’ve destroyed me if I found out I was part of what got someone killed. It wouldn’t have been her fault at all but I’ll bet it would’ve felt like it… Jesus, I’m hurting for lost lives and destroyed families of a HYPOTHETICAL situation!
I guess because even 1 second handled differently could’ve been tragic..
My guy. It's a mental hospital. Nobody inside has a gun.
Yea even if you told the police beforehand what if someone in there was armed and you just primed them for shooting your employees
Then on the flip side, if a real one happens, people will ask why they weren’t trained to respond correctly. This here is a case of really bad communication for sure. But people should get trained.
The most glaring thing to me is the lack of communication between the agencies on scene. Seems one set of cops has it close to being settled while on the other side, they are still treating it as active. That can be very dangerous during an actual event.
1. The playback footage might not have actually happened at the same time, or played in this video at the correct timing of events.
2. If some random guy told the police its all a drill and the police had multiple calls saying its an active shooter, that is not enough reason to stand down and treat it as settled.
@@disguisedcat1750did you miss the part where one of 2nd set of guys was getting a phone call from his boss from the 1st set? it's not rocket surgery to piece together a rough idea on the timeline.
It could have been a different jurisdiction or agency, seeing as neither of you correcting each other here remember him saying you see that trooper way down there I don’t believe they know this is a drill either.
@@vegasponyall of you missed the “ do you see the trooper way down there “ which is a clear indication of different agencies on scene not all in direct radio contact which is normal
@@some.meatball5217 not normal interagency coordination is supposed to occur in these situations
An unannounced active shooter drill?!?! You bet your ass I’d be calling 911 too if someone said there was an active shooter without stating that it was a drill. That could have turned out very differently.
Thing is, you have to tell the police that these calls will be coming in and that they are from a drill... otherwise you saw what happens.
@@papajavaleri What if a real active shooter scenario happens at the same time then
@@are3287Just say "no cap" at the end of the call.
Whoever was in charge of this "drill" needs to be fired
Officer: "Why are you smiling, this is serious!"
Guy: "Well, you see officer, there's a pound of poop in my pants right now."
"I almost got shot over a drill, if I wasn't laughing I'd be crying"
@@dormantlime215 exactly. I can’t imagine how terrifying it must’ve been for them, and how relieved they must’ve been to not get shot.
One thing cops really need to be trained to recognize is that people sometimes laugh when they are nervous. No idea why some of them don't understand that.
@@Deminese2 I usually smile and go into denial.
The head of hawthorn center should be jailed for causing a mass public false panic in this day and age stuff like this should be illegal and a felony
It is illegal when it's intentional. This was just poor planning.
🤣🤣😭 mass public panic?
Most of the public didn't even know this happened at the time. Get real.
@@billyyank5807 My guy. Dozens of heavily armed cops raced to that mental hospital. People knew.
@@billyyank5807 I mean a bunch of the public would have seen dozens of cops responding towards that area, so would piece together that somethings going on there. Get real.
This "hospital" is a disgrace. Shameful what they did and now are being sued by the employee who was arrested and I hope he gets his pockets lined for the rest of his life. This was a preventable situation and the police and the hospital need to be held accountable.
the police? why? they did their job. you wanted them to do a Uvalde and just stand by? they werent even informed of the drill. yeeesh!!!
police did their job, wtf kind of defund your brain garbage is this?
@@crisespinoza1979I believe op meant the hospital is getting sued, not the police
@@crisespinoza1979sounds like someone decided to get offended instead of paying attention at English class
@@funcookie84 you’re slow ngl. You lack common reading comprehension
I work at an assisted living facility where everybody has dementia & they're constantly trying to escape; we do drills at our place too, our boss will walk out & dramtically announces a resident is missing, and everybody has to drop what they're doing & start looking..this happening is ridiculous..smh.
So they're opening a "brand new state of the art" facility... how are they planning on staffing the new one, if they couldn't staff the old one?
That’s what I was wondering. Tearing down and building to build the same thing and waste tax money is a poor solution. The guy who does unannounced active shooter drills probably came up with that decision.
Poor solution to the problem. The guy who does unannounced active shooter drills probably came up with that one.
Maybe they just made a smaller building? I somehow doubt it though.
by redesigning it without security flaws that enable escapes and said systems not requiring human operation thus needing less staff.
Yep. Plenty of money for infrastructure projects during election years, but when you ask for money for staffing they tell you you’re on your own.
Thankfully, these police officers used extreme caution when arriving on the scene, for this could've easily turned into a bad situation for these 4 men who were conducting a drill.
Cautious but still took necessary action to clear up the situation quickly. Good work.
I had a visit in a psychiatric hospital before and I can tell you, that with the trust issues and paranoia I already had, additionally getting amplified by the hospital itself and the people around me, if there was an active shooter "drill" like this I know for a fact I wouldve done something dangerous, either to someone else, myself by attempting escape or I wouldve gotten my shit handed to me by another patient.
I was there just for a case of serious depression, I came in as a limp noodle with no strength, I barely lifted my arm up to sign the documents. However, some of my copatients were addicts, drug criminals, a few maniacs and a chick with a more severe case of depression, it was to the point where she wasnt trusted around plastic cutlery and was strapped to bed every night.
If shit hits the fan and I think were all about to get shot up, you know for a fact im unstrapping that girl first and getting her all the possible weapons in the building, then either smashing the window or hiding somewhere to get a jump on the shooter.
Again thats my thought process and I was the mild patient.
Absolutely ridiculous
A friend i made there was a Jehova's witness tho, doubt even a real shooter would want to fuck with that
I was in a mental hospital once suffering "acute schizophrenia" from a drug related serotonin syndrome incident for like 3 days. Didn't believe that anything happening was actually as it appeared. Don't even want to think how I would have reacted there, and afterwards.
Buddy, I think you should admit yourself again. Doesn’t seem like you’ve gotten any better. Lol ur a burden on society 😂
I shouldn't laugh, but that last bit startled one out of me anyway.
@@1998warriors laugh permitted
You are a good person for thinking of her well-being, as well as your own.
As someone who has been in psych facilities before, the idea of multiple escapes is so wild. They really needed to be investigated.
Shit if I was one of the fake intruders and that happened to me, I'd absolutely be suing the shit out of the facility for the emotional trauma.
I want to believe he was laughing because he’s glad he’s in handcuffs instead of room temp. That’s gotta be a relieving feeling.
I literally work for state ran hospital and you have to notify every department necessary whenever it comes to running a drill. Them saying they got bad advice is a straight up cop out
I've worked in nursing homes over the years and we had ankle monitors on all the residents that were at risk of running away. They automatically caused the doors to lock if they got within ten feet.
That sounds fancy, and very expensive
i don't think they're terribly expensive. we had about 6 or 7 people at a time on monitors. but it's great to keep wandering folks from wandering. it's worth it.@@jeremyroland5602
Here places like that just generally aren't on the first floor and the windows are basically unbreakable and don't open.
Mental patients? Second floor. Geriatrics? Third. Doors only open when opened by staff behind the counter with a key card so you have to otherwise buzz in and out and can only do so during set hours at which point the elevators are also turned off so stairs become the only option.
You're not getting out easily.
Kinda just sounds like a fancy reverse key fab to be honest lol.@@jeremyroland5602
This is the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard of in my entire life. People could have been shot and killed over this.
I just wanted to mention the 'heavy gear' means adding a 'hard' vest. They already wear a bullet proof vest, but one that protects mainly from handgun rounds. It might aswell be a denim jacket when it comes to rifles. The 'hard' vest protects from rifles. Even if lower levels of armor can stop a bullet, it can result in a 'punch' that can literally break ribs, stop your heart, and/or destroy your organs.
@ItMeArchie pretty much 100% correct, there's a few different 'plastic' plates that can stop rifles but this is atypical. It's easier to spend $200 on soft armor, and $200 on plates than it is to spend $800+ for a slightly in between solutions. As usually the hard armor they buy will prevent armor piercing rounds, which the expensive plates I'm talking about won't.
How common are armor piercing rounds for everyone else? Well there's 2 types explicitly legal, green tip 556 and black tip 3006, your paying a premium (like 10cpr to 100cpr more)
More money does nor equal more better. There are huge teams designing projectiles for terminal ballistics, other teams for external, and when you spend the time reloading you are the internal ballistics expert. All are way different.
I am dumbstruck. WHO does this!?! That hospital is insane for doing this and if I were an employee I would be SUING.
I went to a residential rehab at 14 and escapes were extremely common in the underaged units. The care I and others received there was horrible and unlawful. I’m 17 now, but I can easily say 12 recent escapes are not normal. Something is happening there to those children, or the priorities of that place are jacked.
I was a maintenance supervisor in a nursing facility and I scheduled and ran all of the emergency drills. Especially when you have people with any form of mental illness or condition, you NEED to make sure all staff and residents have SOME knowledge of what's going on.
I'm not from the US so all of this is insane to me anyways but the fact that people are doing UNANOUNCED shooter drills is crazy. Isn't that just trauma and ptsd waiting to happened?
This is the first one I have seen that was not coordinated with local police and all staff weeks before hand
The hell were they thinking?! Of course the uninformed staff are gonne freak out and call the police. Those poor people went through so much anxiety for no reason. Not only did they fail to inform police of the drill, the numbnut who got tje email aboit the drill didn't forward it to everyone on staff. I'm glad a new facility will be built. Hopefully the ones responsible for this blunder won't be returning once it's opened.
As someone who's been in a mental facility,pediatric and adult facilities having an UNANNOUNCED ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILL with mentally ill and more than likely unstable patients is horrifying, ive seen people fly into a rage in these places because they didn't like what was on tv or were confused and didnt understand where they were. I cannot imagine the horrendous things that couldve gone wrong during this,bodies piling up,psychotic breaks,escapees, im glad things did not go that way and that they were eventually shut down and are currently getting a complete makeover. That gave me anxiety just to watch.
In every active shooter drill I’ve ever participated in the local authorities are always alerted to the drill details so no mistakes are made.
I went to a psychiatric hospital and learning that there were around 15 escapes is insane. Each facility needs to have extensive security measures so nobody escapes because it is dangerous for the public and the escapee to be roaming around. Good thing this place is shutting down
We do drills like this at my office and police are notified far beforehand, on day of prior, and directly before. How dumb are these people?
Evidently someone at MSP needs to be looked in to as well, if they truly did tell staff that there they did not need to inform the PD
That officer talking to the hospital director was PISSED! And the director would not just be quiet and listen.... "I cannot apologize enough..." Ma'am, this was terribly planned.
This is just absolutely inept management staff.
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YES
I saw a deal where they were filming a movie. They were filming the inside the bank scenes when a cop, not knowing they were doing a movie randomly rolled up to the bank. It was the cop's bank and he was planning to go take care of bank business when two gunmen (that were actually actors) burst out of the bank.
The cop was very supersized and immediately pulled his gun, pointing it at the bank robbers and started yelling instructions.
The plan had been to shoot the inside scenes than film the planned shootout with police For just an instant one of the actors was thinking, "Are we doing the shoot out now? but realized this was a real cop, with a real gun loaded with real bullets who is thinking he's just rolled up on a real bank robbery.
Fortunately both ackers dropped their guns and did everything the cop told them to do. It didn't take long, and to make it up to the cop the director cast him as one of the cops in the shoot out.
Things can get scarry fast when the cops think it's real and the actors thing the cops are taking part in the drill or the action.
This literally happened at my school last year too LOL. entire police force showed up within 2 minutes and swarmed the school. Everyone was panicking, turns out the hired electrician accidentally turned the alarm on, and everyone started freaking out, including the principal, because it wasn’t planned. A bunch of kids were traumatized and sobbing.
What if one of the unaware members of staff was armed and shot these guys, let alone the cops potentially shooting them? And what about visitors at the hospital? I'm interested to know how they planned this. Not well, for sure.
It would be Nationwide news.
To be fair I imagine staff at a psychiatric hospital wouldn't be allowed to be armed at work.
Whoa this happened right next to me and I had no idea! Michigan police are amazing. It's weird hearing the narrator mention places I'm familiar with in the real world.
When you have a Fire Drill 🔥 you notify Fire Department 🚒. It is only Logical to call Police 🚔 before an active shooter drill. 😳🙆🏻♂️🤦♂️
What a cluster! Great cops. Sad how traumatic this was for the kids, but kudos to the staff for trying and kudos to the cops for the way they handled this shit show.
These situations should always be taken seriously. The administration of the hospital was severely incompetent
"Alarmingly different" 😂 the puns kill me
Unannounced drills and false alarms were terrifying just in school, let ALONE a hospital! Who runs active shooter drills in a children’s hospital?!!
Especially a mental hospital
So they punish the building not the idiots in the building.
17 in 2 years is some movie prison level security. That's insane. In a collective 5 months in such facilities over the years, I saw 1 escape attempt and it ended in a quick syringe to the ass under 3 guards.
The 'manager' that thought this up and organised it should be a ruddy patient.
I love seeing amazingly British comments on US bodycam videos lmao
@@xXluluchanelXxGuilty as charged.
I volunteered to be the code pink child abductor on a maternity unit at a military base. I made it all the way to the back hall where the doll was wrapped in a blanket, grabbed it and walked to the stairs which led to the outside electric doors and ran until I got all the way out. I was about to breathe a sigh of relief when two very large hands were grabbing my shoulders, lol. Little did I know that this massive anesthesiologist saw me and ran after me. He was ready to pummel me while I'm yelling exercise, exercise, exercise and trying to show him the doll. He was mortified that he was about ready to pummel me & it wasn't something I hadn't anticipated when I volunteered. Can't imagine what could have happened if they had scrambled the security police without telling them.
That officer racking his rifle is the most gangsta shit ive seen today
You can't fix stupid. Unbelievable. I'd be pissed. Great job officer's.
I was there as a patient in 1991 at 15yrs old.. I can attest it was much different then. They were on top of things, and the staff was awesome!
As an added twist, it turned out the manager, security guard and two shooters were all patients at the hospital. The real manager and guard were found locked in a room with no phones.
Thanks for the video. This was an unbelievable circumstance. I get it, it was to see how staff would respond to a specific situation in the hospital, but when my guy said MSP told him he did not have to let anyone authoritative know beforehand, he was referring to the Michigan State Police? Because if so, he need to have gotten that in writing.
The staff are going to be scared, frightened, goodness knows how they would react. Some could have run out in sheer panic, I'm not certain it was the right thing to have done. You want to prepare in case of a scenario? Brief your staff, let them know PRECISELY what to do, train them through exercises, done. It was like pulling a prank for laughs.
I mean, someone calls 911, saying there are not one but TWO active shooters, with semi-automatic rifles, upon the grounds of a children's psychiatric hospital? Four days before Xmas? Yeah, expect a show of force. The officers did their thing, moved cautiously, no shooting, no panic, surveyed and got to the bottom of it.
Now they've closed down the hospital. Sounds like it was some time coming. It might not be much to those on the outside, but clearly the officers involved were on it until it was established, and that's when they breathe a sigh of relief. Can't imagine it was all hot dogs and doughnuts going into it, and thankfully it ended well.
It really drives me crazy when 911 operators can’t be quiet
I was a dispatcher for 10 years. Dozens of active shooter drills conducted at numerous different places. Literally all police/fire/ems and dispatchers in the area were notified days in advance. This is ridiculous.
They did that to us in school as well. Ran into the gym and screamed “SHOOTER IN THE 7th GRADE HALLWAY!” That was the most retarded thing ever. I also got detention because i went to go get my sister 😑
Thats so stupid
Why the hell would they not tell all the staff about a freaking shooter drill
They sent an email a few hours before. What are the odds somebody doesn't read a wotk email in the morning before work?
Wow, the fact we have to have these drills in the first place is insane!! Anyone over 50 will know this kinda stuff never used to happen and now we have over 600 mass shootings in a fricken year!?
It’s mad how scared I used to get being in ten mins after curfew ended when I was 18!!! (52 now lol)
UT Tower? Ocoee? Tulsa? Camden? You just weren't aware of it because you didn't have the internet.
I am only 32 but school shootings had just started and became a thing and the first drills were terrifying and it’s now the norm to have multiple shooters a year. Kids are raised by the internet now and I do think I’m a much more empathetic person because my parents raised me. I was blessed with having good ones though.. I know things weren’t perfect but it would’ve been nice living in a time where you could go to the movies and a shooting wouldn’t go down.. An innocent bystander was shot last week when a road rager had been cut off by a STUDENT DRIVER CAR.. how little life means to others is terrifying.
Sorry for the whole rant but I think that shooting is still bothering me. Barely made the news.. the woman shot was a mother and a brand new grandma trying to buy baby stuff at The Children’s Place.. Having good grand parents is an honor not a privilege for some jackass to take. Breaks my heart for her daughter who’s a new mom..
@@KrikZ32 on the contrary, mass shootings have always made the news, and people have always been aware of them. The reality is that the frequency of mass shootings has been on the rise in America over the past 40-50 years - and it would take a wilful blindness not to see that rise connected to the shift in gun culture in America, pushed by the NRA, with the financial backing of arms manufacturers, most visible on the legal side in the shifting interpretation of the second amendment to go from “a well regulated militia” to individual rights.
The antigun groups definiton of a mass shooting is 4 or more people getting shot in one incident even if there is no fatality. 98% of these are gangbangers and domestic violence. Random mass shootings are still rare. There are no drills for gangbangers shootings or domestic violence cases where the far majority of "mass shootings" happens.
Just as the antigun groups says that guns are the number 1 killer of children. The just redefine the definition of a "children" as up to 19 years old and those are mostly gangbangers. Take that out and redefine "children" up to 18 year old, it is behind vehicle accidents. And they don't include "children" under 1 year old where crib death is the number 1 killer.
Propaganda at it's best.
😱 what a shocking turn of events, another outstanding video thanks raven 🖤
"unannounced active shooter drill"
You have to be kidding me.
It's a bit concerning that this is the route a children's hospital chose to take as opposed to like, literally almost anything else. Maybe they should be looked into. Oh, never mind, they actually have been looked into!
Yeah a staff wide nerf gun fight would have been a better drill
How tf do you not warn people and the police before these kinds of drills?
Hey thanks for this info. My half sisters (twins) were in Hawthorn in the mid 90s for 5 years and they had gotten just about no education and it was/is fckin sad. I am glad to hear that they are closing.
Thanks for regular uploads❤
This seems highly illegal, idk how that manager still has their job
Early. Thanks for making great informational videos.
They need to stop calling an intruder an "active intruder" because everyone they dealt with, including even people in the comments, keep turning that into "active shooter".
Pure negligence from the facility and it’s staff, my thoughts are with the patients who must have been terrified. It’s really sad that these drills are needed
Can we get more Area 51 stuff if there is any, thanks, love you and your channel!
I hope the two men sue because they could’ve easily died if someone in there had a gun.
Yes, They definitely have a case.
Not to mention how extremely traumatic it would have been for them to go through that
The fact they have had that many kids try and escape probably means the facility is doing some bad shit
Glad to hear it got shut down. I was going to say someone if not multiple people need to loose their jobs over this. That is absolutely absurd that the entire staff wasn't aware it was a drill and 911 got called. It's so easy to imagine that having ended with one or more people shot to death by the responders.
Yes Ewu crew. More content the merrier i love it
Im not a fan of the police but the fact that they handled this so well and understandably is heart warming. They knew the facility and its patients so they where extra cautious to not breach and put many lives at risk, especially those who are emotionally weak or vulnerable such as myself. Sure im not in a facility but if it was me in there i would have been terrified! Again! Not a fan of the police at all… but they handled this damn well so good on you men and women involved and how you handled it. Seriously, Glad to know we have them for when things get bad. Years ago this would have turned out to be a blood bath easily. As for the person who didn’t notify the PD and others who where supposed to be notified, they should be thoroughly investigated and questioned for even considering such an idea
Most police are good people, not like the very few bad ones that are shown in the media (which is statistically less than 1% of all cops).
The bad cops get a lot more attention than the good ones which leads people to believe that all cops are bad (which is really unfair to the good ones) so I would like to ask you this.
Why are you not a fan of the police?
There is no need to censor the dialogue. If members of law enforcement are allowed to yell those words in the presence of a children’s hospital, then it is clearly safe enough to be heard by the rest of us.
That was incredibly irresponsible. Not only put their staff in danger, but pulling police resources that could have been used to help people in actual distress.
Anyone doing an unannounced shooter drill deserves to be treated as an unannounced shooter.
*Stay Strapped or get clapped*
Cops tell that one dude “it’s not funny” if my bosses f’d up that badley I’d be laughing too
Honestly, they need a new director. She didn't even let him finish his sentences, because she wasn't about to be lectured for her wrongdoing.
Black guy: laughing
Also black guy: I was especially affected.
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There's different types of reactions to stress.
lol! Some of us laugh so we don't immediately crumble into a massive stress ball of "what even is my life?!".
Laughed out of pure disbelief
Sometimes I feel like as a job requirement 911 operators should be given a crash course on how to appropriately and empathetically extract the information necessary to assist callers who may be in dire situations or experiencing a state of shock or dissociation. They could already be doing so but if so theres alot of shocking phone recordings made public that show a good few of operators could use a refresher course.
In saying this I do understand this does not reflect on all operators and that the majority are truly selfless, protectors of life that are creating miracles daily and love doing so.
As someone who’s spent time in mental hospitals and escaped twice, these places are often understaffed.
The police Women need to learn how to put on a kevlar Helmet
Announcing the drill would kind of defeat the pupose of having it !!!!
And those patients can be cuckoo and hard to handle (even deadly)a resident of mine was killed by a teen girl she was kicked in the head a bunch of times !!
No it doesn’t.
I learned from earthquake drills that we knew we had that definitely helped more than nothing.
Just because something isn’t perfect or only practiced doesn’t mean it will be worthless when it comes time to need it. I’m definitely glad that my neurosurgeon practiced the best he could before I needed him.
Im so confused by the multiple staff members being like oh well this is the first time the members actually called 911 during a drill. Is that allowed anyway even during a drill wouldnt multiple people calling 911 block up the dispatch lines? And how did they confirm it last time by checking phones?
What truly amazes me is how nobody served any time in jail. Like you could have an unpaid parking fine and get jail time. But you do an unannounced active shooter drill and at worst, lose your job?
America... nuff said. 🙄🙄🙄
I'm sorry, but that management lady is the reason why stereotypes exist. I'm not anti-feminist, nor am I a feminist, but 42 years on this planet has made me see a lot of things and see how people react to certain situations. This situation could've gotten ugly, all due to an incompetent lady. She should've notified the entire staff so they can notify patients.
This is Michigan, alot of us carry (me included)
That's a scary stunt to pull, if someone is pointing across parking lot and saying that man has gun and is trying to kill people, it could have ended a lot different.
"Unannounced active shooter drill" Does not sound like something anyone should carry out
This is why we need more guns! If those hospital staff were armed here, someone could’ve MISTAKENLY been shot, turning a drill into the real thing! Except since there’s so many people armed, now it’s actually a warzone, but still, GUNS FOR ALL!
Because all of us that carry are just running around blasting
I like how there's always an idiot who takes every possible opportunity to say the solution is more guns
41% of active shooters are stopped by regular, armed people who happened to be there.
@@smokejc I think he's being sarcastic. The employees wouldn't have been justified in shooting the intruders since there were not even props. I might be misremembering that though.
@@smokejcthe OP was actually being sarcastic. I was pointing out the absurdity of their phrasing and assuming that everyone would be running around shooting.
How was Brandon "especially affected"? You never gave that any context. This facility's admin need to all be fired for pulling something so stupid.