Fashion in Final Fantasy
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
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Pretty neat way of doing it.
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bro legit okay, so i did actually used to own a pair of pants similar to Titus. except they were buttons, not zippers. but the leggings did de-tatch. I was so into KH andI thought I was soooo cool in highschool because I left one leg un-buttoned so it sagged below the knee
Do you have fashion show For Silent Hill?
Honestly tho.
We all wish to be able to wear those clothes without being judged in real life.
Fashion companys should learn from tetsuya nomura, this is what people really want to wear.
@@EteSiuleems So Kanye was onto something?
Just do it, there's a rise in alternative fashions and you should join in too. However, if you were to wear something inspired by SE then you'd need to make sure it actually suits you otherwise you will be called all sorts of names. Most of these fashions wouldn't look good on an overweight or extremely skinny looking man.
@@peachesandcream8753 yeah just fucking do it. doesn't matter what you wear you will always be judged by others by your appearance. as long as you have a style that fits you. It's not like I'm free from being a judgemental asshole its unavoidable but honestly I'm in no position to judged basted on what I wear either. The more people start experimenting with fashion the more normalised it will become.
You... you guys realize some people have jobs?
Even if you're dressed like that outside your work, it will still affect it in a negative way
"just do it" works only if you're in high school and have money
Square really is on another level with their fashion designs. Hell, Kingdom Hearts pretty much birthed my fetish for short sleeve hoodies.
Dude, SAME
I blame Nomura for my fashion taste
@@giboi03 haha same
I swear them vest hoodies and crown necklace were my trademark throughout high school
and Bill Belichick killed my love for short sleeve hoodies.
But the fucking zippers ..... Zippers fucking everywhere
Oooooh so thats why
I study fashion and nomura is a design genius. He's very aware of how fashion can age the design of the game quite quickly.
He's choosing niche underground styles, then combining them to fit the purpose of the character. Big unusual silhouettes and wacky colors help distance it from reality and ease the suspension of disbelief. All the accessories like belts, zippers, pockets, serve to alude to functionality. his particular influences set the characters in a urban, contemporary timeline without specifying a particular year or place, unless the story requires it. I'd call his style atemporal but edgy while pretending to be functional lmao.
Some of the characters show how dated they are, but given the amount of characters designed by Nomura im surprised how few there are.
His bishonen androgynous characters, are very much a product of japanese culture. Softer features look more fashionable and tend to be described as better looking. in contrast of manly buff characters that tend to mostly alude to strength but are a necessity in fighting games.
Tetsuya Nomura is inspired by Japanese fashion, and if you know japanese fashion, you know how to date them. He is a shit designer.
@@gigihadid3745 can you elaborate?
Gigi Hadid homura’s designs aren’t any more outlandish than italicized rei kawakubo tbh like the fuck are you on about
the silhouettes are sick, color theory is followed, and meaningful symbolism is incorporated into the character designs, just like irl fashion
Nuclear Breadstick those outlandish rei garments are couture they’re art they’re not meant to be worn out and about. Seriously the characters look cool in their game but imagine some loser tryna look like Sora with huge ass shoes and a short sleeve hoodie
That's interesting because I've seen the same design choices out of him for a long time other than when he has to work on something more fantasy oriented. Always relies on the same color themes, lots of straps and buckles, even to overuse. A lot of characters end up looking the same, as do their designs choice unless going for a very different vibe/animation style. He's actually pretty limited or has been for the last decade or more.
Also, most are inspired by fashion they see in magazines or in use. I really don't see his aesthetic out there as it hasn't changed much looking at certain characters, even hairstyles.
When I was young, like, 16 years old, I had one of those pants you can convert to shorts taking out part of the legs. I went to a school picnic using just one leg to look like tidus. yeah bad idea, I felt so embarrassed of some people comments, that, when somebody asked, I only said that I had lost the other part.
I still think tidus looks really cool
Amazing, awkward, beautiful, hilarious moments we remember. Thanks for sharing that (・-・) \(・◡・)/
i also had a similar pants and did the same thing! lol
Damn bro, you were too ahead of the time
I did the same thing 😫😂
I feel this same way about the art in YuGiOh. It’s easy to make fun of it and say it’s dumb, but these designs are gonna stick in your head forever. It’s all actually so iconic and fun, it’s way worth being a bit silly.
Se man yugioh has amazing style
Except the last two series tho. They almost look like knock-offs/parodies at this point
MrBowser they’re not as good as the first three but those were at least better than Sevens. Looking at Sevens is kind of heartbreaking.
I will always and forever remember Kaiba's always-swooshing-in-the-wind coat with fucking shoulderpads and high collar and the leather belts on his arms and topped off by his stupid suitcase. It's ridiculous and absolutely weird, but iconic af
oh sup dude
I honestly love TWEWY’s character designs. Not only is it more downplayed compared to Nomura’s other character designs in, say, KH or FF (seriously, there’s not an overabundance of belts or zippers to be found on them) but it perfectly fits Shibuya’s fashion trends, which is even more notable considering how much TWEWY places a huge emphasis on fashion, not just in the setting and story but also for gameplay as well.
TWEWY is an incredible game, sad I ever finished it (it got so hard 😭) but yeh Neku is the boi 👍👍👍
Totally agreed. In my opinion Nomura is at his best when somewhat subdued.
If we can have female characters wear skimpy outfits then we can totally have male characters wear skimpy outfits. I am an equal opportunity lewder.
Male characters are more shirtless though with all the body muscle
@@UnifiedEntity I don't think you understood the comment 😅 Males simply being shirtless and males wearing something "skimpy" are two different things; female bodies have commonly been fetishized, sporting revealing clothes, but as soon as a male sports some skimpy, revealing clothes (not simply being shirtless with some military pants) then suddenly it's a big deal hahaha...
@@Vandarera I'm pretty sure guys shirtless with muscule in just military pants is one of top "ideal" views and fantasies of the male body.
@@UnifiedEntity no, it' not that. look at Kuja, for example.
@@DraceEmpressa Thank you!
you should do more of these analysis of fashion in videogames
I agree
*analsis
Was just about to comment the same thing lol
I choked laughing when you switched from drawn Tidus to in-game Tidus.
Runic Guardian for me the cheap sound effect from wishy washy sealed the deal XD
Yeah, that was a striking moment 🤣
I feel like Nomura has eras where you can see what style he's into. In the early 90s he could mimic Amanos style, in the mid 90s his style used a more anime look with characters having a high waist and long legs, in the late 90s he was into silver accessories, feathers, and leather, by the 2000s he was into the urban meets punk look (by this point he was heavily into Zippers), by the mid Early 2000 belts were added with the zippers, by the Twenty Teens he toned it down and currently he's into Plaid.
Meteornome every designer goes through an evolution, if you’d like to look at like five years worth of like Alexander McQueen , a lot of change can happen
I don't ever recall him mimicking Amano's style, not even close. He actually has to do more of that with Dissidia, which outfit wise? Yes, he has to match it, but not his style. Very far apart in aesthetic. Amano is an artist, Nomura is a character designer. He's been into zippers and leather still, you're just thinking about Organization 13 it was overused with. Everyone has been in black since Advent Children.
@@blumiu2426 Aesthetic wise Nomura did originally mimic Amanos style, just look at Gilgamesh if you don't believe me. Nomura has been using less belts and zippers and has been using plaid and buttons along with brighter colors in his current designs. Previous designs like Organization XIII don't count because that's their uniform from the older games. Lauriam, Brain, Strelitzia, Ephemer, Ira, Aced, Ava, Gula, Envi, and most of the Torna group from Xenoblade. Those are examples of Nomura's current designs. And notice they don't have an overabundance of Belts or Zippers that people are obsessed with talking about.
@@meteornome2556 Nomura doesn't ink or paint like Amano, so how could he mimic him? Are you saying following his character designs? He would have to just as programmers do when making 3D models. I recall seeing FF XIII and FF XV using zippers just as much. What game are you talking about where he is using plaid? It sure wasn' the Kingdom Hearts 3 or FF VII Remake.
You are forgetting that Nomura is working within a theme for Xenoblade 2. In his own work, he uses certain fashion, but always the same hairstyles. The villains are wearing armor mainly. I still don't see this plaid attire. You realize plaid is patchwork design?
@@blumiu2426 Clearly you're not understanding what I'm saying. *Nomura copied the aesthetic of Amanos art style.* Armor, and multicolored Fabric with multiple designs is a staple in Amanos art style. And it was something Nomura translated into his design when he created Gilgamesh.
Not trying to start an argument but you must be blind if you didn't see the overabundance of plaid and buttons in Kingdom Hearts 3, that or you're being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. Sora, Riku, Kairi, Lea, Isa, Xion, Mickey, Hayner, Olette, new outfits in that game had all of those traits. And Nomura is more prone to penciling his art rather than painting his designs. Sakuguchi even said what made Nomura so unique back in the day was that he was the only one who'd show him his sketchbook of designs when they would be having group meetings while talking about possible characters for the Final Fantasy games. instead of discussing them He'd show Sakuguchi his designs of what he had been working on.
Final Fantasy XIII didn't have an overabundance of Zippers steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/368532262444438606/428797BD6EE274B4FB395AE4FBE49D2DF56F60E7/?imw=512&imh=487&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true
(And the belts used for the characters for the most part were practical.)
Neither did XV res.cloudinary.com/lmn/image/upload/e_sharpen:100/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto/v1/gameskinnyc/2/8/0/2809471-6499373576-final-d25e5.png
Granted the fashion company Roen also helped in the designs for that game.
So talking about how Nomura is only belts and zippers is extremely hyperbole. Even in the Final Fantasy VII remake the design of Sephiroth is a mishmash of his VII, Advent Children, and Dissidia look rolled into one.
I think the overalls on Tidus work because of the game's water theme. Y'know, like the kinds of wading boots and overalls that fishermen or cranberry farmers wear?
that's supposed to be sports attire though and the overalls + the rest of the crap would be a massive hindrance especially underwater
@@Satanjugend I get where you're coming from there. But I believe the comment was more speaking to the _aesthetic_ of those types of water-overalls. It's clear that as actual underwater sports attire, Tidus' look has no practical function whatsoever. Most of the other Blitzballers suffer from the same thing with their team uniforms, too.
Which is really strange when you consider that the Al Bhed assault gear looks like it was actually designed for use on a futuristic submarine or diving operations??? Final Fantasy clothes are all over the place on the scale of form versus function, though.
@@Satanjugend I believe his look is mostly cuz of his first character idea that he was supposed to be a plumber and or a type of worker
Love how people felt their heterosexuality threatened with the almost shirtless dude but when vikki (I think that's her name? The blonde one of the three) wears a bikini top n that's it no one bats an eye
Rikku from FFX - X-2
Yeah isn't rikku underage too lmao
I mean that's toxic sexism & double standards @ it's usual here in the west🤷♂️
@@xxChainingHeartsxx She is 15 in ffx and 17 in FFX2 according to wikipedia.
You straight from twitter?
I wish we had some actual renders of Isa, Lea, and Xion's outfits from the end of kh3
Dude yessss. I loved all their outfits.
I really loved this entire video, but I was especially happy to hear someone talk about the double standard in fan reactions between female characters showing skin and male characters doing the same. It's a trope that I really want to see JRPGs break free from in the years to come.
Square Enix in general is pretty deep into fashion. Even the outfits for Deus Ex Mankind Divided are designed by Acronym.
FF15 also did some work with Vivienne Westwood, and to me Noctis' fits always looked really inspired by Rick Owens.
deus ex was developed by eidos montreal. Square is merely the publisher.
@@CheatCodeSam FF15's outfit were mostly designed by ROEN, the quatuor's outfits are even available for sale on their shop
Phyllion roen’s one of those brands that sits in a similar sphere as rick owens, from what i’ve seen. before i knew their clothes were from roen i used to joke that noctis was wearing julius_7
@@CheatCodeSam Yeah, they did Luna's wedding dress. You can see it in a shop window during the game.
This channel is so underrated man, love what you do.
I watched the whole video. I almost never do that.
When I went out of fullscreen I was shocked at how understated this channel is. Cause this thing was meme after meme
Nice Ilya profile picture
I'm a straight male and never once had a problem with the designs. I would laugh if it seemed really ridiculous (like Sora's shoes) but that's it.
Its fantasy not reality.
This video is like talking to friend guy when he's had a little too much.
Had a little too much of *David Bowie appears!* FASHION!
Man I love friend guy, he's so cool
I feel like he makes his videos while drunk lol
I never had any problems with any of the Final fantasy designs same with most jrpgs designs as well I think people forget that jrpgs are pretty much playable one shot animes. So of course the design choices are going to be crazy but they fit. If you care about practicality in a rpg you might as well just stick to boring western ones were everyone dresses the same and theres barely any style to anything.
One thing that really annoyed me was the whole mortal kombat debacle. When they decided to change their character designs to be less skimpy, people threw their shit at nether realm for going sjw. Like seriously? Nether realm is sjw, because Cassie and Jaques wear armor?
@@DissedRedEngie the new mk designs are awful if were being honest say what you want about the old designs but at least those designs were iconic. The Egyptian style designs for kitana ,jade, the half human half cyborg for cyrax This is one of the problems i have with current western games most characters lack any sort of creativity. Everyone looks like they shop at the local walmart and where the blandest thing possible.
PixelLightShow not necessarily...
@PixelLightShow I could have sworn journalists are attacking gamers and anime fans for being right wing sexists and racists for liking those things. I have never seen the opposite other than when SJWs attack gamers and anime fans for liking designs that are too sexy or something controversial they try and make race or socio-political. The Western media in gaming and anime is run by liberal bodies, so what your saying is contrary to reality.
I don't even know why this is on my recommended, but I'm already loving it so far and you got one more sub
fashion in SHIN MEGOOMI ATLUS games next
Madruga good for you
Thank you, this guy NEEDS more subs. He's amazing
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Nah but for real, if Nomura was to start his own clothing brand I'd be closer to fashionable yet poverty status than I already am🤔😅
i would pay money for pants as comfy lookin' as roxas's!
@@liz_violet I'd love to get some Advent Children era Cloud swag 🤔
@@ThyHarvesting With the early 2000 era flip phone.
as a cosplayer these character designs are Suffering. you'll never have enough zippers or buckles (and let's not get into special-ordering giant zippers for kingdom hearts characters.......)
As a completely straight man: Bring on the effeminate dudes. Let them have their moments in the spotlight, backless-shirt-things and all. Not everyone needs to be geeky, or buff, or rotund, or "everyguy". We're all different, and our characters can be the same.
That said, sometimes Nomura's designs really do go a little too "Extra". I overall really like and appreciate his designs, and they've influenced my own drawing style since I was younger. But uh... yeah, sometimes his designs just get too busy to actually work.
@PixelLightShow chill the fuck out.
@PixelLightShow full yikes my dude
I think he's toned it down in recent years. Kingdom Hearts 3 for example didn't have an abundance of belts and zippers as much as it did have plaid and buttons.
With many fans not liking the designs that much because the characters new outfits looking too plain and less out there compared to the previous entries.
Also that Pixel dude needs to chill tf out.
I believe my self to be straight but I can still find some male characters attractive especially the more feminine ones. I don't know if that makes me gay or I can appreciate male attractiveness without being sexual in the same way a woman might call another girl attractive but not poseing any sexual attraction to them.
Honestly I think sexually is too complex of a thing to be categorized what do you call a guy who's straight identifys as a man and likes women but likes to cross dress as a woman in a sexual act with their female partner. Would that make her lesbain since in the moment she's engaging with a guy who's passing as a woman or straight since it's a guy dressed as a woman. Is that guy trans if he dresses as a woman but identifys as a straight male?
@@God_gundam36 Recognizing another man or women's attractiveness doesn't make you gay at all unless you wanna lay up with them too & let no toxic hetero tell you otherwise. I exchange compliments with male friends & family quite often and NONE of them are gay
How to Nomura fashion:
MORE BELTS
MORE ZIPPERS
MORE BELTS
MORE ZIPPERS
MORE BELTS
MORE ZIPPERS
With the occasional ONESY
Don't forget PLAID
But everything is better with belts ==
Thats the lulu desing pich.
... AND MORE ZIPPERS
Studying character design, in school, it became apparent the effect of growing up with seeing the designs of Final Fantasy. It helped me to learn to think outside the box and just be different. However, on the negative side, I’m constantly bombarded with ignorant criticisms on why my outfits/designs are unrealistic. So another thing is that when I see a lot of designs from Final Fantasy, I can easily understand the intent of a majority of them.
You should reverse uno card them and ask why does a fictional character have to be realistic.
Honestly though the only time you should worry about a character practicality is if it's realistic, difficult to animate, or it becomes confusing to the intended audience.
When Mickey Mouse pulled up in black air forces and a black trench coat I was immediately reminded of my place in the universe
Funfact: Yoshitaka Amano was the one who made the cover art for the VOCALOID3 Library(ies): ZOLA Project in 2013
I really love his artwork
He also once painted a portrait of David Bowie
He also illustrates the Vampire Hunter D novels
and was just on vogue italia!
You would probably have a blast exploring fashion in the King of Fighters character designs. SNK is always the second (first is Square) Japanese gaming company that comes to my mind when the subject is fashion.
SNK's fashion game is on point
Ye KOF has my favorite fashion and music from video games. (FFXIV might be taking over though).
One of The Reasons Kof Is My Favorite Fighting Game Series, Guilty Gear Also has a Lot To Talk About
Not only do SNK have an eye for fashion, but the fact the characters constantly have evolving wardrobes really adds to the attention to detail.
@@justwungo yup, KOF02 had some great stuff (K' and Kula my fav's)
"COLONIALIST ROCK CLIMBING TYPE OF ADVENTURES" i gagged with this one only 40s in
Ff fashion is basically avant- garde style or high end runway styles ,not everyone can pull it off but if u can then flaunt it
Ppl hating don’t know fashion or have personal style
if anything its the inverse, high fashion takes a lot from game designs
SMT games also have a fair amount of fashion influence in both human and demon designs. Kazuma Kaneko (prolific/main series character artist) always cited fashion culture as a major influence. It’s understated compared to Final Fantasy, but is just as refined.
Kaneko loves his Japanese urban streetwear
I just read this article after thinking about the outfits of the MCs in the Persona and Devil Survivor franchises and it's given me a thirst for content on fashion in games.
www.usgamer.net/amp/the-fashionable-apocalypse-of-shin-megami-tensei-iv
All I'm saying is the NPCs in III know how to dress
@@lavenderlucid9071 Bro Kaneko didnt do Persona past 2 or Devil Survivor
@@NoobsUnited9000 Oh, I know bro. My journey to this article simply started with me thinking about those games, which led to me searching for "Shin Megami Tensei fashion", where I then found this article.
I think the fashion/art is pretty cool
me too
I always wanted to dress like a character from Kingdom Hearts growing up, only less goofy shoes. They had some cool shit!
thankfully kh4 has Normal shoes now
The fact that you can pass off well thought out and put together arguments as jokes and aesthetic memery is wonderful. Don't ever change, Thor bae. You are best boy, for ever.
I was honestly disappointed when the KH3 designs were revealed because of how they toned down some of the nonsense especially with riku. The cheesy designs are one of my favorite parts of kingdom hearts
they are ugly asf
KH3 Riku is literally just Noctis. Which is doubly bizarre cause Noctis is also in that same game
I love how some "straight" men feel threatened by the fact that they feel sexually attracted to an androgynous male character and get all defensive. It's OK BOYS! You can feel attracted to different looking humans, maybe you are bisexual and that's perfectly fine.
@@Horky_Porky op specified sexualy attracted. Plus, I think you could still feel comfy to say you are straight or gay, and have that woman / man that breaks the rule.
Finally, someone here gets it!
sephiroth can get it. but i aint bi or homosexual.
@@Horky_Porky
Its strange, girls feel to be more comfortable complementing and calling other girls hot even if they're both straight and they dont need to justify themselves.
Im not a guy so Im just giving a biased opinion but it seems more like a pride thing.
Or maybe they arent!? Not everybody is gay or bisexual, stop with that fucking bullshit already
Ok so I haven't watched the full thing yet. I don't care. I'm 2 minutes in and I've laughed at more solid jokes than I've seen videos today. By anyone.
Big props to the already apparent signature editing, too.
Am I going to watch the rest and then edit this comment?? Yes.
EDIT : ok who was the Holes guy? You know. Three holes in a triangle. I need to know. I thought it was Nomura, but he never did the art for Front Mission 3. It's in a bunch of old Square designs including Sephiroth's original shoulder guards.
THIS WAS ONE THING BUT NOW IT'S ANOTHER. GOOD VIDEO BTW BRAH.
Also half way through and was about to write the exact same thing. Thor, I've been around since sub-1k subs and watched about 90% of everything you've put out since like 2015 and this has got to be one of your best videos yet. Fucking GOLD mate.
I don't know where the 3 holes come from either, but you can see it a lot in 80s/90s Japanese sci-fi designs, not just Square. My guess is some designer really liked the look, got to work on a few shows that became popular enough, other designers started to notice it and put them in too, and it's kind of been engrained in the genre since.
It was a popular trope. I think the closest of an origin was pc adventure games way back in Japan had tons of those?
The people who whine about Enix Designs probably *love JoJo, ironically* .
Also, 6:09 😭🤣 Bruh I'd buy that Album, no cap
MelodiousBlitz wanna talk about jojo. Look at 4:05
Angel Reyes Glad I wasn’t the only one noticed that Mista easter egg!
@@AngelReyes-lc4mw lol I didn't even notice! Ok, now I know 100% Nomura's inspired by JoJo
As a guy who got inspired by Square fashion for my art, I feel personally attacked (jk)
Wol controversy was pretty stupid imho, the guy shows a bit of skin? NO GOOD. Bunch of crybabies
Nooj design is all over the place, like a fusion between several characters imho. But yeah, Spira fashion is weird imho. I guess Paine is the most normal looking of the cast (A sexy metalhead pretty much).
Who's the 6:14 girl?
Luso's design is not reflected in gameplay imho, it feels... weird, but the art is... To attract, nothing else I guess, like you said, it's cute.
Tidus is a case of:"It's cool... on paper." The 3d/realistic transition didn't fare well.
Vaan and Vanille have nice clothes imho.
14:25 Sun-Ken Rock (manga) does EXACTLY that, the characters are all mafiosi, and they dressed in black, so their faces/haircuts are all unique, even if they have a similar fashion sense (Undercuts ahoy *rolls eyes* )
Bulma biker outfit is the best outfit ever, hahaha
Can't agree more. Having a guy in a revealing outfit in a sea of scantily clad women is absolutely fair. Why every such character for some reason have to be percieved by a general public as a test for their straightness? :D
@@Miraihi People forget about Conan, when he was the epitome of manliness, and he was only wearing a small short and some boots!
The girl at 6:14 is a character from Xenoblade 2, don't know who since I just started it and only two of the characters Nomura designed for that game showed up.
@@axsprime got some info, she's Gaia from FFXIV Shadowbringers and... there's no pictures of her in-game, wtf?
Lu Rohr she is Gaia from FFXIV and was released with the new Eden raids recently that’s why there were no in game pictures
I think people forget that video games as an artistic medium allow for the exploration of otherworldly visual languages. Nomura is a master of just being playful with shape, of creating costumes which go far beyond simple utility, and which truly exist in an alternate reality or 'fantasy'.
Also Amano drew inspiration from the French symbolist painter Gustave Moreau who's an interesting fella in his own right. :)
So glad that you covered FF / Square Enix fashion eventually. I've been waiting for someone to make a video focused around their character designs, they are some of the coolest (and odd) designs in gaming. It also even been a big influence on how I draw or design things as well.
Reminds me of a discussion I had with a friend who had a falling out with Final Fantasy.
Take away quote: "I hate how everyone, even the NPC's, look like models and everyone has either cool ass clothes or weird outfits that no one questions."
The FF Mobius one is double funny cause when we talk about female sexualization some go ''But guys be also oversexualized and shirtless!'' but also, shirtless isn't the same as some sexy overdesigned clothing, Mobius is the closest to the over-sexualization of something to the same extent, and it got some dumbasses mad at it, it be weird and I don't know what message I'm trying to say other than I always hated the argument of guys being also oversexualized when I honestly don't find a shirtless girl as hot as a girl wearing all those belts and whistles to make my eyes go to places that a designer wants them to go like Rikky from X-2 and all that.
Like not that things can't be sexy, I like them sexy, i'm just saying that the argument for shirtless muscle man = hot isn't universal at all, it can be, depending on your tastes, yeah, but it's a wee bit different design-wise.
they tasted for the first time what women had to see all the time. LMAO
still prefer original outfit.
@@lurighashandarei1318 Wait, I was misrembering it, did it ACTUALLY got changed and ''censored''? wasn't it a mockup someone made to ''improve'' it? If they actually changed it to cover more of the guy then that fucking sucks, i liked how it was, bringing that sexual fashion design over to a guy.
@Eevee :3 Sigh, how am I gonna explain this, ok, i'm an artist right?
So, as an artist, the way I draw something, i have to keep in mind where a persons eyes will go, where do I lead them to. A design isn't like, clear cut, if you're not thinking about what you're looking at, then its a bit boring, but also if you think too much, then its too much right?
So, ok, low-rise thongs right? Why where they ever considered sexy? same reason as the male's ''V'' thing, it leads the eyes down there, the clothing and lines are flirting with you, same with a sexy bikini, its all about flirting rather than nakedness.
Nakedness, shirtless, is a sign of wilderness and freedom, it is not inherently sexy unless you're a teen who has never seen a naked person ever, nudeness is a sign of freedom and you just go ''oh naked person'', there's not much to it, there's no flirt, nothing to think.
Like, it is subjective, what you find hot or not, I'm bisexual, and it's just my stupid opinion, however when I design clothes to be sexy, I design it to lure the eyes, to catch the eyes of a person and take them to a ride to the good place, that's what ''sexy'' is when it comes to fashion, and if it's too little, nothing is left for the imagination, and boy, the imagination is the sexiest goddamn part!
You get it. The way sexy clothes _frame_ the body. Not just visually either, but like...kinesthetically.
This is also why I wish there were more sexy outfits that focused on under appreciated parts like shoulders and backs, rather than easy and more culturally vulgar targets like T&A. Let bodies be beautiful!!
@@Densoro Yeah, there's a whole art to being sexy, and for the most part i'll be honest and say that women has way more options, not because they're better at it, but cause of mostly culture, then we'll dive into how long they were objectified by media, art and whatevers and it's a whole big thing on sociopolitics that I don't really get or want to get cause it be either bad, sad or boring, or all at once.
Point is that it be boring that the idea of man being sexy is ''shirtless and muscle'' is kinda lazy compared to how creative sexy girl fashion is.
That said never cared for the booty-shake-sexy-centric some of it is, I dunno why but a girl shaking a big butt means absolute nothing to me and all I see is a hairless ape doing a mating dance that part of sexyness is dead on me and i find it not good but i digress, theres weakpoints on girl sexy, thats the point of the digression. I guess i like things to be overly designed and not rely on the animal part of the brain that go ''must put dick in and impregnate'', which, yeah thats why you find x or y hot when you take off all the pretenses and artistry, i guess thats what vulgar is maybe. I don't really know, i'm talking off of my ass, take all i said on a big salty grain.
as a person who can fully appreciate the fashion industry and the gaming industry, i totally agree with allof your points. I feel like the fashion and gaming style is starting to become a trend. you can clearly see when it come to Magazine editorials, as well as high fashion influences and celebrities coming out as gamers. the latest being the the fashion brand ACRONYM being in death stranding. and Hideo Kojima wearing the brands as well, and clearly taking inspiration from it. It will be interesting to see where this trend will go in the coming decade.
labels to look for with the FF/cyberpunk/street style :
Y-3
ACRONYM
CAV EMPT
017 ALYX 9SM
Vivienne Westwood
Thanks. I love to write and draw, specially urban art such graffiti, but also artistic. I draw manga and they are all havy influenced by videogames. FF is one of my major inspirations.
This surly helps a lot
Always remember that Lightning is a Louis Vuitton model and that Noctis, Gladiolus, Prompto, and Ignis are Roen models.
Sora, Riku, Kairi, Roxas, and Axel are Supergroupies models right alongside the Persona series Wildcards.
Yoshitaka Amano just recently did the cover and some art for Vogue Italia.
I'm just here for the nomura art. But I love how you describe his sense of dingle dangle style, full timbus, toned down nomura etc, lol.
the only video games fashion that I can't accept is bikini armor. that's it.
This was a fun look at the art of Final Fantasy games and my god, I keep forgetting that there was a time before zippers.
I wish really had neku's clothes and rex's i would still wear it outside
I would love to see you talk about the designs of the Persona Series.
ah obscure game character design, the thing is in the asia especially east asia, almost no one complained about the design, only in the west i heard about "too feminine" "too androgynous" "sooo gaaaay" lol. but interestingly we getting to know how gamers personality all over the world hha.
9:52 you know Vanille and Fang could fit in Horizon Zero Dawn's world since it's tribal-futurism is the main theme of that game, and they'd look like they'd blend among the crowd.
was never into playing final fantasy myself but imo Tetsuya Nomura lowkey 1 of the greatest, most imaginative artists ever
A lot of these comments start with "I'm a straight white male BUT" and I just wanna say that those comments are probably the best/funniest for anyone currently scrolling. Have a good day
Why?
‡ Gothic Croc ‡ because it’s funny
‡ Gothic Croc ‡ cuz they dont need to do that but they do anyway xd
I've seen 0 of these comments that you speak of.
Actually I see more "lol insecure heteros"
Which is just as if not more obnoxious.
Square: okay Nomura how many zippers, black leather and belts this character needs?
Nomura: Y E S
Old meme bruh
Nomura: Belts, Zippers, Plaid. That is all
Alright, I've determined what outfit I'll wear for the rest of my life:
A slingshot bikini
As many belts as I can afford
An injured otter
Handcuffs
Shuriken-nipple pasties
The left half of an apple.
Toned down Nomura ftw. He's really made some stylish designs. The way you showed off his character design in that mobile game makes me think of how distinct all these black coats were, even with their hoods up, in kingdom hearts. It's funny how in twewy how fashionable you are is a main mechanic
bro i died at your "the effin CLAW HAND!" almost spit out my food
4:04 Bruh, is that Mista?!
2:15 but that's JoJo's fashion, something that Bucciarati might have in his wardrobe.
Also, never forget how Lulu still could rock that corset & those belts when she was supposedly heavily pregnant in FFX-2.
I absolutely love this video and there is nowhere near enough appreciation for that uniquely cool jrpg fashion. Kudos and please please please make a pt2 or even just a video expanding on or narrowing down to any part of it.
I was really expecting you to comment on Viviane Westwood being a resident of Altissia and designer of Lunafreya's wedding dress. Somehow, so much came out about this game, for so long, that these kind of things become less known, but very much fashion-relevant.
Anything Square puts out is more creative than all this mobage sh*t we’re getting these days. Is all I’m gonna say.
I've always loved videogame fashion. I feel that it could easily be boiled down into things that are cool without being so extra. great video man!
What i like about FF is that their design not bland like western game but not over top like Japanese game(mainly with anime art)
If you ever decide to do a follow up video on the subject of fashion in videogames, I'd suggest taking a look at Kazuma Kaneko's work, the SMT series has some of the most amazing and interesting fashion choices I've ever seen in videogame history. Btw, since my two biggest obsessions in life are fashion and videogames I thoroughly enjoyed this video, thanks a lot for it!
That Silver Case OST got me actin' strange...
Even tho its only a second I love how Roxas expression 😂😂😂
Also I love how Papa Nomura insert his fave stuffs in the clothing such as ZIPPERS AND BELTS
I legit think this is one of your best works boyo, please make video game fashion critique a series from now on.
Vaan and Vanille are two of my favorite characters in the entire series. Their designs are more minimalist than those of other characters and I thought they were both interesting. I dig a fish out of water.
I would love a persona fashion breakdown ! Loved the vid
I like Nomura's art, but sometimes he needs someone to slap him in the face.
I once heard that the reason why Tetsuya Nomura designs had numerous belts and zippers, is because belts are seen as a form of status symbolism, in regards to the respect that character has garnered. Zippers however, are probably about his personal style. Fantastic video man, like always.
I'm glad you brought up and sorta linked Racing Lagoon and modern rap . The nostalgia for 90s and early 2000s also extend to the cars and the way they’re customized. I see vids of Nissan SIlvias cruising and drifting while 808s play. I could imagine a modern sequel of this game. I sometimes see photos of JDM cars used on amateur rap album art.
I really wish there'd be a modern racing lagoon with Nomura designs tbh.
The appreciation of creativity is the reason I watch your videos multiple times
I rewatch this video like every month to draw some inspiration for my looks. Thank you, Thor
There is also this aspect about people when it comes to media, and this will step on a few toes: If most art were made by someone you didn't know or wasn't famous, not connected to a brand, no one would care about them near as much. Some designs are cool and will be recognized, but not all. No one pays attention to mangaka or certain character designers until a game becomes famous, that attachment is what people latch on to. It's the same mentality with celebrities; you don't know them personally, but you like what you see them in, so they are idolized and mimicked. People are very shallow and some artists bank on that by copying styles or certain trends or just do fanart. What's recognized or mainstream is the draw, not so much the actual art. The "star struck" effect, for lack of better term.
this is probably your best video yet, great work. your style is just getting more and more unique/defined and i love that you make videos on cool topics that no one else really bothers touching
Nomura's ideas of fashion and design are so bizzare. I can't say I love it, but he's unique and I appreciate that
I'm old so I find the Amano stuff to be my favorite of them. I found it neat I could look at one of his characters and not really be sure if it was a boy or a girl, more so than even some of the later artists like Nomura who obviously toned down that vibe a lot in more recent times. Cool video.
I'm not a big fan of "overdesign" with a thousand flashy details, but I appreciate this fresh perspective.
KH: Did you say zippers?
the ppl who got mad at wol’s design would cry while watching or reading jojo parts 5-8
That's not Vaan. That's Captain Basch fon Rosenburg of Dalmasca.
Nomura's designs are pretty tame compared to stuff like Satan's SMT design. Digimon can get pretty crazy, too.
BASCH LIVES!
Those are monster designs, were talking about fashion.
SMT has some bonkers fashion too, but PCs are generally not as over designed as lare-2000's Nomura
Final Fantasy fashion is extremly iconic and unbeatable ♥️
DAYUM, early concept Sora! I kinda wish we had that - really explains the crown motif.
Well, now I discovered that weird itch I felt after playing some rpg shit was fashion all along. Nice and intimate talk about it, man
ThorHighHeels: Square has been repping fashion... since the NES & SNES days.
Me: *remembers how awesome FF1's black Mage still looks*
9:09 "this edible aint SHI-" *BOOM*
Nomura is easily one of my favorite character designers (and probably a less popular opinion, storywriter) because of the look of his designs. KH in particular has a bunch of cool fits for Sora and the gang, it's hard not to look at it and go "man, I wanna wear that." Even some of his more unpopular designs, I just can't help but like.
Remember, everyone, take a lesson from Final Fantasy 14: if both men and women can’t wear the sexy fan service outfits, you’re doing it wrong.
Me: watches thor highheels
Google ads: I see you like high heels!
Ad: advertizes high heels
~Close enough for the fashion show episode...
knee length shorts and suspenders are going be huge in 2020
I think tiduses inspiration drives from Young Leonardo di caprio. Imagine the ship Scene (titanic) Or his Outfit Looks like the Knight costume from Romeo+juliet. And of Course his Facial Features and the 90s hairstyle
Whenever i think of final fantasy games i usually think of 2 things:
• wierd weapons
• *belts*
I just want the next mainline - offline - FF to have Akihiko Yoshida or Yoshitaka Amano characters. Is that asking too much?
Square Enix be like: Who are those people?
But real talk I'd love for either to character design again and kinda hate Yoshida left Square but hell why stay on if they barely put you to work? Going freelance made sense.
Thank you, THANK YOU for not completely sh*ting on Nomura's fashion designs. I see too many people just talking bad about these characters just because it's different. I love these designs mainly cuz (it's my kind of aesthetic but) it stands out. It's not so bland or following a trend. Even the tone downed designs still look great and without being lost in the crowd. Thanks for being unbiased. Awesome video!