The Horror: Heart of Darkness's Colonialist Rhetoric in Far Cry 2

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024

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  • @nikodemospl870
    @nikodemospl870 Год назад +238

    Fun Fact: You don't need to kill your buddies when they betray you. You can just yoink the briefcase and run away.

    • @punz0934
      @punz0934 10 месяцев назад +19

      That's exactly what I did in my first playthrough lol

    • @redacted702
      @redacted702 10 месяцев назад +47

      Nah, gotta settle my debts.

    • @mikhailbolodo1597
      @mikhailbolodo1597 9 месяцев назад +33

      Sorry brother, no loose ends, not this time.

    • @monkiofwisdoms6216
      @monkiofwisdoms6216 6 месяцев назад +4

      2024 ... l finished it 3 minutes ago and yep l killed no one

    • @crankfastle3061
      @crankfastle3061 3 месяца назад +4

      Fun Fact: you get to kill your buddies at the end when they betray you

  • @BONK_2000
    @BONK_2000 11 месяцев назад +83

    One point I don't understand is the comparison of Thomas Sankara to the UFLL. In game the UFLL are portrayed as hypocritical as they claim to be fighting against the exploitation of the people while simultaneously selling off the country's resources to other nations, something that Thomas Sankara can't be accused of given that he was famously austere and fought against expropriation. Additionally, the UFLL are shown to be isolationist and against wider integration with other African nations while in real-life Sankara was a Pan-Africanist. Maybe a better example of a hypocritical, pretend socialist leader in Africa would be Robert Mugabe.

    • @crocodilegambit
      @crocodilegambit  11 месяцев назад +36

      Thank you for the genuinely insightful comment! I agree that Thomas Sankara was not the best example, as I point out myself. He's not nearly as cynical as Addi Mbantuwe, who is a communist in name only. The reason I chose Sankara was his image as a devout Marxist working for the people, he is what Mbantuwe wants to paint himself as, but in their actual policies and humans rights violations, I agree that Mugabe is a much better example. I would counter, however, that the UFLL are not Pan-Africanist, as I quote Leon Gakumba: (36:27) "All Africa will follow this example." Citing Mbantuwe's Far Cry 2 wiki entry: "[...] Mbantuwe formed a new faction, the UFLL, to claim to free Africa and its workers." Nevertheless, the stress is on "claim". In retrospect, I should have chosen Mugabe, as I also chose Mswati III for his actions, not his political role alone.
      Thank you for the comment, it's always great to hear from someone who's way more knowledgable about a topic than myself.
      - Malte

    • @kainslegacy78618
      @kainslegacy78618 5 месяцев назад

      @@crocodilegambitIt emphasizes how delusional both factions are since they claim and genuinely seem to believe that the entirety of Africa will take their example and the entire world will immortalize them and the UAC, while the literal neighbouring country we get a glimpse of at the end very clearly does not give a damn about this Unnamed African Country. Only caring about preventing their chaotic neighbour's violence from spreading to their land and only helping to evacuate the refugees after we bribe them.

  • @fire_tower
    @fire_tower 11 месяцев назад +124

    After playing FR2 my impressions was that it was criticism of interventionism. Our foriegn 'hero', who has a problematic past and a financial motive is sent to solve the country's problem in the name of bringing peace but ends up contributing to the violence.
    The violence done throughout the game is intentionally meaningless, with our 'hero' killing boths sides only for financial gain. But they persist until they have the Jackal in their sights because they presumed they were just.
    Ultimately saving the region only in his/her own death.

    • @milk_bath
      @milk_bath 10 месяцев назад +1

      The white savior.

    • @razorfett147
      @razorfett147 9 месяцев назад +7

      Agreed 100%

    • @p90bridge
      @p90bridge 9 месяцев назад +18

      I don’t see any hero in this game. It starts out as a hit-job for money but ends up being a fight for survival by the end of the tutorial.

    • @caseyharrington4947
      @caseyharrington4947 3 месяца назад +3

      I would disagree that the 'main point' of the game is about interventionism becaise the country is already at war when the player arrives, but apart from that you are spot on

    • @Chadorni
      @Chadorni 28 дней назад +1

      There is no need to refer to the protagonist in a neutral way. You can only play as a male.

  • @chrischrisserson707
    @chrischrisserson707 6 месяцев назад +9

    Normally I don't post much on RUclips, but this work of passion forces me to thank the creators for the beautiful work they have created. This video was interesting and gives the game a whole new meaning for me and I couldn't be more grateful for that.

  • @magnusgreel275
    @magnusgreel275 9 месяцев назад +18

    How do you only have 550 subscribers???
    This is a fascinating breakdown of both Heart of Darkness and Far Cry 2, and of this type of gaming in general really. Very well done, you've given me some interesting things to think over.
    I remember playing this game back in the day, but I stopped because it was so unendingly grim and full of despair.

  • @another-human_exe
    @another-human_exe 6 месяцев назад +11

    "... If you succumb to the horror, you become the monster, you become reduced. No more than a man, but less. And it could be fatal."
    I never thought the horror The Jackal meant would be really deep.

  • @hateraccoon5686
    @hateraccoon5686 10 месяцев назад +75

    I kinda take issue with the central conceit of this critique.
    Farcry 2 isn't a game where Africa happens to you
    Farcry 2 is a game where you happen to Africa.
    Its why you have to go at the end.

    • @vlad_churukanov
      @vlad_churukanov 3 месяца назад +4

      that`s why i such like fc2 and stalker series, you just stranger passing through your own business, nobody cares if you gone

  • @bittersweetblueberry3517
    @bittersweetblueberry3517 2 года назад +126

    Cant believe I just stumbled upon such an excellent video

    • @cshan351
      @cshan351 Год назад +3

      Know exactly how you feel I was looking for something vaugly simular but Croc hit the nails right on the head and covers so much

    • @carlito___fml2652
      @carlito___fml2652 Год назад +1

      Praise be to the algorithm.

  • @insanejughead
    @insanejughead 7 месяцев назад +8

    This is a game/book/topic that demands the viewer/player/reader to delve deep into parts of themselves that they may never have wanted to go.
    This has become one of my most revered videos in regards to FC2 and the lore behind the slow descent of madness that encapsulates Heart of Darkness.
    Thank you.
    (I just hope Clint Hocking watches this video at some point. I would give nearly anything to have a sit-down talk with that man about what went into this game's development.)

  • @awsumpchits
    @awsumpchits Год назад +106

    this is probably the most comprehensive analysis of this masterpiece of a game. from the bottom of my rotten heart, Thank you

    • @vunenicar
      @vunenicar Год назад +3

      fc2 is my favorite game

    • @BackstageFlyer
      @BackstageFlyer 10 месяцев назад +3

      Masterpiece? Respectfully, name a memorable character besides the jackal or tell me how guns jamming and constant enemy spawns everywhere while physically having your map out was a fun experience. I spent a lot of time on the game but it had some issues to say the least

    • @awsumpchits
      @awsumpchits 10 месяцев назад +24

      @@BackstageFlyer skill issues, left and right

    • @galbyob6760
      @galbyob6760 9 месяцев назад

      @@awsumpchitsDAMN, I named this ‘Post casualist’ replied

    • @literallynothinghere9089
      @literallynothinghere9089 9 месяцев назад +2

      There is another great essay by a youtuber called face full of eyes

  • @farshpatel
    @farshpatel Год назад +22

    Dear authors of this video,
    This is the best game-related content I've seen on RUclips ever (and I watch a lot of content like this). Maybe even the best video I've seen on RUclips period.
    It not only changes my view on Far Cry 2 and its narrative but also on Heart of Darkness and on (post)colonial discourse we have in the modern world and how it's being presented in popular culture.
    I simply lack words to articulate how deeply I'm impressed with your work.
    You absolutely need more subscribers and views. Hope you will be making more videos.
    Thank you!

    • @hairyballbastic8943
      @hairyballbastic8943 9 месяцев назад

      If you want to watch another awesome criminally underrated game video essay, I highly recomend checking out "The Master; or, how I learned to stop worrying and love the Super Mutant" by fumbullan
      Its incredibly eye opening and I can't help but scream at anyone I can to check it out

    • @farshpatel
      @farshpatel 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@hairyballbastic8943Thanks, will check it out!

  • @naunau311
    @naunau311 8 месяцев назад +4

    Friend of mine recommended this video to me. This was a very good 2 hours, great work man

  • @MrZozowok
    @MrZozowok Год назад +39

    Funny enough, the French version does negate some racial overviews you're pointing out, like the accent, or the naive characters, as all of them are very ironic about the ideas they're fighting for. Therefor, the aide is no more than a greedy military backup because there is no more local manpower for the factions

  • @lucesfuera452
    @lucesfuera452 Год назад +49

    I never paid much notice on how the officers talked to their leaders like children.

    • @bigmouthprick5852
      @bigmouthprick5852 Год назад +11

      I just thought it was generic racism, and the mania of 'diamonds.'

    • @salmon_wine
      @salmon_wine 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@bigmouthprick5852 close , its slightly more insidious racism. It's institutional racism, finding ways to not just belittle those you view as beneath you, but cutting off ways for them to better themselves, in this case higher level language, to hinder communication.

  • @manvendra_singh
    @manvendra_singh 9 месяцев назад +4

    This is one the best videos I have seen on this platform, please keep going with more videos

  • @4bigmac209
    @4bigmac209 6 месяцев назад +9

    I disagree with one point: (the book) Heart of Darkness does not try to convey that the white/western world is somehow less savage than that of African tribesmen, it compares the two as being no different.
    By the end of the novel, Marlow see’s that Kurtz’ success was only achieved through utter savagery and subjugation of the natives he has encountered, not through traditional colonial methods, but by becoming something completely different; a synthesis of both worlds. They see him as both more and less of a man, as some kind of malevolent spirit that must be placated through labour and sacrifice.
    At the beginning of the novel, when Marlow first lands at the worksite, he sees the endless and seemingly fruitless struggle of the natives at the hands of colonial masters who have little to no understanding of the place they are raping the resources from, as no different than that of the endless and fruitless waiting for resources from their own lands (Europe). The colonizers waste away as they wait, without venturing into the wilderness to reap whatever benefits they are looking for; unlike Kurtz, who leaves his old ways behind (saving for his unending quest for resources), and adopting the ways of the native population who know the land only gives what it wants to give.
    The natives have survived for millennia by understanding that they only take what they need, unlike colonizers who think they can take whatever they want because they believe themselves to be masters over foreign lands. They work against the native population for resources, instead of with them as Kurtz does; trapped by their own greed and racism to die a wasting death. The antagonist is not Kurtz nor the native land/people, not even disease, the antagonist is the very thing that brought them all there in the first place: greed.
    Indeed, the book was written at a time of peak colonialism in Africa, and thus suffers the same pitfalls in it’s own writing that it tries to demonize. Far Cry 2 suffers from something similar, in that in trying to portray the brutish behavior of natives as being similar to the savage land-grabbing of post-colonial entities, ends up rewarding the player for becoming the very thing they sought to destroy.
    Neither entry tries to portray Africa itself as the savage, but of the people who aim to rape and subjugate it. Far Cry 2 especially falls short of this message at times, but the theme is there throughout the game. You are safer by avoiding humanity altogether, but cannot progress in the narrative without joining in on the conflict for your own personal gain. One could simply stop playing the narrative altogether and live at a safehouse without ever having to kill, but it’s a video game and thus forces you to play. It would be an incredibly boring game if you followed the “stay at home” mentality and didn’t play the missions, and the only way to avoid becoming the very monster you sought to destroy would be not playing the game at all. Essentially, only by never taking the contract to kill The Jackal in the first place, and thus staying out of Africa would save you of becoming the monster.
    The colonizers wasting away from disease have only themselves to blame; likewise, the white mercenaries who die only have themselves to blame for taking part in the conflict in the first place.
    Another point of contention for me with this analysis was how the white “aides” speak down on the native leaders like they are children is not present in the original version (French), as all leaders in that version (whether native or foreign) speak in a tone of sarcastic indifference. That indifference is lost in the English version.

    • @bensmith8682
      @bensmith8682 4 месяца назад

      Very well put, far better than the faux-intelligent jackass of the video claims.

  • @jryan2552
    @jryan2552 Год назад +27

    An analysis of world at war (2008) would be interesting.

  • @datalistener
    @datalistener 9 месяцев назад +21

    I disagree with one aspect of your premise, which forces me to disagree with most of the conclusions you draw. While you point out the in-game depiction of Africa as the mystical 'corrupting force' that drives people mad, and Africans as being painted as naive, and foolish, I think you're overlooking something incredibly important. The actual 'corrupting force' in the setting- which is demonstrated through both the story, and the actual gameplay loop that the player is forced into, is war itself. I believe it's a lot more reasonable to draw a 'violence begets insanity' conclusion, than the one you ultimately draw from your analysis (which I enjoyed, and think is worthy of a hundred thousand more views). You could transplant this very same story to south america, or to the balkans, or to southeast asia, and have the very same narrative- the point being made, and exercised in the gameplay, is that war, violence, is a corrupting, primordial ritual of bloodletting, which consumes all men. The cynical mercenaries who sit at the side of the leaders- they're the prime example of someone who is consumed by it, but the ultimate example is the player themself, displayed by the actions you find yourself partaking throughout the gameplay. Where Marlowe traveled up a river, the player travels up a war.

  • @vaskoz3700
    @vaskoz3700 Год назад +59

    far cry 2 could have as well been set in the balkans where insted of european colonialists coming over from some far away place to force you to conform to their laws it would be the russian communists who would be the "intruders" and the story about racism and ethnic hatred would pretty much be the same

    • @esequieltrindade9244
      @esequieltrindade9244 9 месяцев назад +12

      That's why this video is not really good, he could use "mercenaries playground of destruction" as a example of this theme "imperialism and the bad use of ideology" but he choose this game

    • @HonestObserver
      @HonestObserver 9 месяцев назад +3

      Even a blatantly action movie fantasy like Just Cause even has that lesson.

    • @mdd4296
      @mdd4296 8 месяцев назад +4

      It wouldnt carry the "heart of darkness" vibe and fit the "far cry" theming though.
      Took them until fc5 and 6 to just set the games around "exotic" north america

  • @Tinblitz
    @Tinblitz Год назад +8

    I was about to congratulate the Algorythm on recommending this excellent video to me, but I realised it's been out for over a year.
    Well, better late than never.

  • @kubolor1234
    @kubolor1234 Месяц назад +1

    Watching this made me realize how Ryan Coogler and Joe Robert Cole invert Conrad's dichotomy in Black Panther, where the people of Wakanda are trying prevent the darkness of the world from corrupting their hidden light.

  • @harosokman
    @harosokman 9 месяцев назад +6

    This was an absolutely brilliant video. I loved Far Cry 2 for it's gritty game-play, and was left somewhat confused after reading Heart of Darkness, so what this essay brought was deeper understanding to both. It clarified ideas from Heart of Darkness, and really exposed a deeper narrative and set of themes in Far Cry 2, regardless of how well they may have been executed.

  • @bishnudas3562
    @bishnudas3562 10 месяцев назад +10

    The amount of effort put in this video is insane

  • @Black_Swan_Rider
    @Black_Swan_Rider 10 месяцев назад +14

    This game is not about Africans as a whole. It's about civil war. If you are trying to proclaim that the developers are racist for portraying guerrilla fighters as savages just spit it out and say so.

    • @thepeatboggy
      @thepeatboggy 10 месяцев назад +10

      Yeah being from northern ireland and comparing it to the troubles, i saw a lot of the “racism” as overblown, as the point of the natives being “savage” is more a point of all sides being incompetent and savage, no one is correct, and power corrupts.
      The white guys appearing to be “reasonable” are foreign aides and worm tongues benefitting from the conflict, similar in position to the british army here fucking up and aiding paramilitary groups in the name of peacekeeping missions,
      Ideologues on both sides blowing up civilians
      I think the point isn’t to claim Africa as a savage land, but all humanity as savage, its just the backdrop of the setting that brings race into it, if the game was the exact same but set in ireland in the 70s the message would be the same but the set dressing would be wildly different

    • @cra8zykidg
      @cra8zykidg 6 месяцев назад +1

      OK, but they weren’t implying that at all so

    • @another-human_exe
      @another-human_exe 17 дней назад

      That's right. It's about a civil war. And the place that caused it to last like forever. But it's not really about painting anybody to be spearchuckers either. It's because the book is the source of the game, it's just convenient. That's why they also nerf the prejudices.
      Then again, the book draws so much criticism. Again, this isn't about pointing out racism. It's about where the game fits with the book.

    • @RedRabbitEntertainment
      @RedRabbitEntertainment 9 дней назад

      Same Franchise portrayed guerrilla fighters in the US and it was a bit different, although too be fair the guerrillas and the main character are wrong in 5 since the world does actually end.

  • @Croissoont
    @Croissoont 8 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you for this massive analysis. For the longest time Far Cry 2 has been a favourite of mine, but only because it is set in Africa. I have a deep fascination with the desert, and the diverse cultures of the continent, and gaming is so very lacking in giving us adventures set in anywhere close to the continent. So what drew me in and kept me in was reall the surface-level atmosphere. Once, while being a teenager, and having time for it, I sat down to piece together the narrative of the game, but failed to do so. The sense I got from it was that the narrative wanted me not to understand it, as it was so heavy with minute nuances of non-existing political parties and their shady businesses. Now I realize, thanks to this video, that this narrative is just nonsensical, if someone doesn't understand some of the background of the political and literary discourse of African nations, from the point of view of the colonizers. I don't think I'll stop playing the game, but now I have a hugely helpful cognitive apparatus to realize and cirique it's themes, thanks to you.

  • @sotanagan167
    @sotanagan167 2 года назад +25

    how the fuck does this only have 200 views, this is such a great fuckin video, really in depth and all that, love it

    • @we-must-live
      @we-must-live Год назад +4

      mhm - incredibly detailed and insightful analysis about an often-overshadowed videogame detailing topics that we, as a western audience, either don’t get to, or don’t want to, indulge.
      and it’s overshadowed by some sleazy greaseball on the front face of this platform talking about some drama on another website.
      we need to cut every cell out of this cancer - destroy RUclips!

    • @heldtkochlyse6521
      @heldtkochlyse6521 Год назад +5

      cause it's his first video , the algorithm of youtube suck

  • @Xxbeto22547xX
    @Xxbeto22547xX 2 года назад +39

    One of the best videos I have ever seen in the platform. Bravo
    Even though the actual message that the game gives to the player (and by extension the original Heart of Darkness), implies some really not so good things about Africa and his people and culture, it's still one of the more unique games of a lost generation of gaming
    One that was not focused on the game as a product of service first, but to be an experience, and have something to say. Even if the game itself has questionable decisions and flaws.
    (Sorry if my english is garbage, is not my native language)

    • @germaniatv1870
      @germaniatv1870 10 месяцев назад

      I think the guy in the video is a German.

  • @danielvalen1507
    @danielvalen1507 11 месяцев назад +14

    2 hrs of work and only 7.2k views? Deserves much more

    • @Black_Swan_Rider
      @Black_Swan_Rider 10 месяцев назад +6

      People dont want to listen to 2 hours of pseudo intellectual word salad over a war game that happens to have black people in it.

    • @cra8zykidg
      @cra8zykidg 6 месяцев назад +6

      @cuddles1767 there’s nothing really pretentious about it bring it up. Actual criticisms of historical works of fiction is not pretentious in anyway you just don’t like they have your immediate criticizing. That’s OK but I would highly recommend that you touch grass at some point.

    • @juliano9566
      @juliano9566 3 месяца назад

      ​@@cra8zykidg Not sure lack of grass touching happens to be the issue here. Much more likely to be in the vein of "thinking hard, what is book, shut up word man please". If anything, he would actually benefit from less interaction with grass, digestive or, god forbid, otherwise.

    • @TheRadioSquare
      @TheRadioSquare Месяц назад

      @@juliano9566 All of you would benefit from reading an actual book instead of trying to superimpose so much non-existent narrative onto the game that barely has any, that you ultimately discuss the things you conjured out of thin air instead of the actual work.

    • @juliano9566
      @juliano9566 Месяц назад

      @@TheRadioSquare But here's the thing, and please consider this. No work of fiction develops in a vacuum. Every single human creation is the outgrowth of the borders of our cultural horizon. The very fact that this game has very little narrative focus or development hinges on historical, cultural and, well, narrative assumptions from the writers, superimposed on the players. The very notion that the "African nation civil war guerilla genocide communists nothing changes the horror" shtick lands tells a story by itself. Several, actually.

  • @blackraptormoses6838
    @blackraptormoses6838 9 месяцев назад +13

    Obviously Far Cry 2 supports colonialism. It was developed by French people.

    • @baptiste_g3105
      @baptiste_g3105 4 месяца назад +1

      Hell yeah, i am french and i love it

    • @maxmay2151
      @maxmay2151 2 месяца назад

      British here, I'm here to support you on this one my french neighbour!
      British and French colonialism go together like roast beef and frogs legs. 🤙

  • @INFILTR8US
    @INFILTR8US 9 месяцев назад +7

    A two hour story analysis of my favorite Far Cry game? Hell yeah. Bring it on!

  • @PalaceMidasMusic
    @PalaceMidasMusic 11 месяцев назад +15

    I would love to see an extensive talk with the devs of FCII, because so many strange elements are in the game, and as this video points out the subtext is so interesting, but I wish we knew more about the intentionality of the design, and why the vision was chosen. It can't even be said that it's a complete reaction to FCI , because the themes in that game were very light, unlike later games after FCII. Most of the storytelling through gameplay design was discarded after this too. Why why why... great video.

    • @doltBmB
      @doltBmB 9 месяцев назад +1

      The mastermind behind FC2, Louis-Pierre Pharand, was ousted from Ubisoft not longer after the games release. It's worth noting the team spent a considerable amount of time researching the game in Africa itself.

  • @EliteWW
    @EliteWW Год назад +14

    This is one of the most expertly produced video game essays I’ve ever come across. The script for this was excellent and your narration was flawless, which considering english isn’t your first language is unbelievably impressive!
    I really enjoyed the analysis of this game through an academic and literary lens. For me Far Cry 2 is simply a game about getting lost in the african world in search of an elusive arms dealer, so your perspective was new and interesting to me.
    Can’t wait to see your next work!

  • @DyaMetR
    @DyaMetR 10 месяцев назад +15

    I thought foreign mercenaries were an allegory for neocolonialism, reinforced by the presence of foreign corporations in the country and their roles in the conflict. Violence, madness and greed being imported from outside, rather than caused by Africa. But this video made me realise that's how I wanted to interpret it.
    Also, I thought at first that the cab driver was just coping hard at the horrible situation around him, and that he was just trying to survive in the midst of a war.
    Really great video.

    • @hateraccoon5686
      @hateraccoon5686 10 месяцев назад +16

      I think you got it right the first time.
      If you want my two cents,I think the hypocritical plot about a mercenary rampaging through a country to stop an arms dealer who's perpetuating a rampage, should be enough to tell you what the game thinks about neocolonialism and foreign interventionism.

    • @bigmouthprick5852
      @bigmouthprick5852 3 месяца назад

      ​@@hateraccoon5686so why does the Jackal so thoroughly ridicule the west in the interview tapes: ("you think someone in the CIA is gonna listen to this and come after me?/the death of a 23 year old from Iowa gets more airtime than the 50,000 people he gave his life to protect/Even if they did give a shit...") for not intervening? He's presented as an anti-hero in narrative despite this view.

    • @bigmouthprick5852
      @bigmouthprick5852 2 месяца назад

      The cab driver was one of the people who "coopted" their role in my model; he's aware of the cynical use of people in both factions and instead stands apart from it, earning a humble but honest dime while having to choke down his own distaste of the people around him, fully self aware he's turned into a caricature as he waves away exploitation and murder

    • @ovwarrior
      @ovwarrior Месяц назад

      ​@@hateraccoon5686LMAO you should go to Africa and see how wrong you are

  • @NoThing-wc3cs
    @NoThing-wc3cs 2 года назад +8

    This was exactly what I wanted to listen to.

  • @crankfastle3061
    @crankfastle3061 3 месяца назад

    I don’t know if you are reading this but this video was on a completely next level! I can’t believe more people haven’t watched this sooner and that I haven’t been recommended this sooner!

  • @gameschest4273
    @gameschest4273 10 месяцев назад +19

    as a brazillian, who can feel the impacts of colonization by its social problems to this day, this video is a rare gem

    • @esequieltrindade9244
      @esequieltrindade9244 9 месяцев назад +6

      O vídeo é bem ruinzinho mano, ele pega a narrativa do jogo e põe pro lado dele, não tem problema interpretar como o cara interpretou mas ele pegou a mensagem principal do jogo que é "humanidade em crise é realmente horrível" e jogou ela pra "o jogo quer que você veja os africanos como burros" tanto que se você for olhar como o jackal fala, ele mesmo diz o tema do jogo nos primeiros segundos, quando ele dá a arma pra gente e diz que já tentaram matar ele antes, ele é a representação do caos e morte, o jogo não fala sobre como podemos resolver as coisas ou sobre como a África será feliz se fizer x ou y, ele fala de como uma situação ruim vai acabar ruim quando homens mals ficam no controle das coisas, o jogo se passa na África pois na época, era um lugar que realmente tava passando por instabilidade e horror, e não pra parecer que a África inteira em todo momento é assim

    • @ezelegui7901
      @ezelegui7901 9 месяцев назад

      you are a ignorant just like the guy from the video, brazil and africa have their problems because they are ruled by corrupt people, so those social problems that your country have it's because of your people, you are to prideful to admit that europe was and is more advanced and developed than your country and just blame it

    • @generalrevelation8923
      @generalrevelation8923 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@esequieltrindade9244 Tambêm percebi isso, o cara assume uma retôrica vitimista(Homem branco assume ser melhor que homem negro. Essa mentalidade racial que já está mais do que cansativa) e simplesmente jogou fora a possibilidade que o jogo simplesmente quer dizer que em um ambiente aonde a moralidade foi esgotada(Ou no caso do livro, não existente), é quase impossível a sobrevivência de mentalidades morais e isso é uma espiral fatal e destrutiva. Mas é tipico desses ensaistas universitários de querer "problematizar" tudo em questões de exploração social, é a única visão possível para essa gente.

  • @MrZozowok
    @MrZozowok Год назад +21

    A great analysis in which i would add a bit of nuance, with 3 aspects : story element, real life inspiration, and cultural study.
    The writers probably didn't care of the colonial approach of their hypotext because Apocalypse Now already adapted it without problem. But it's also because, as you pointed out at the begining, there is a writing structure : Nature / Culture. But in the game as in real life, nature is not purely good (Rousseau has been actively promoted by Nazis for saying that), nor it's bad (fauna is not trying to kill the player in this game). It's all story telling, Conrad has to choose one, even if he actually enjoyed Africa to a certain point. Thus, the narrator is pessimistic about the land, but it doesn't mean that Africa is really plagued or to be destroyed. It's just a writing trick as old as time.
    Also, if every human being tries to kill the player, once again, it's not linked to the hostility of the land (but it's intended to be, as you explained). Personnally, I see a perfect understanding of the civil war crisis. Speaking from my experience in Lebanon, there was no safe zone for civilians : hiding in the basement, put mattress on windows, planning route to avoid checkpoints and irregulars (snipers), never take the same route back, it's what Far Cry 2 perfectly recreates. Your critic is solid and true, once again, but i'm just pointing the other aspects of the game design.
    I've also spent some time in Africa, in areas the game clearly took inspiration from, and i never felt the rampant racism in Far Cry 2, simply because characters were too accurate : a doctor with humanist ideas in his mouth but selfish actions (Gakumbe in the game) was far too common. It is actually caused by colonialism, since it's how the 'educated' White acted, and how older generations learnt to behave, since it was the model, but sadly the game uses irony and cynicism to defuse it, not facts.
    Which leads to my point about cultural studies. In my opinion the critic that Africa is corrupted, according to the game, should be seen as Africa is broken (but the game refuses to elaborate). The game artists, as outlanders in Africa, should have feel the same as the player in the taxi ride : something is wrong here, people acts differently than us, but it's not corruption, or sickness. It's the way of life. Governement or not, there is no money, roads are blocked by corrupted cops, water has to be filtered by locals, and medicines are money. If you're ill on a village, you have to travel far away to be cured, and all of this game aspects, which you analyses correctly in a post colonial approach, also means that the creators have worked well to capture the feeling of Africa.
    (I use Africa as a whole according to the game and your analysis, i know there are huge differencies between countries.)

  • @Cloud_Seeker
    @Cloud_Seeker Год назад +6

    I very much do not agree with that the game say "If you bring weapons to Africa you get war. If you remove the weapons and act like a parent you get peace".
    That is not what the game say. You can even find that in the Jackles tape. The Jackle did not start the war and him bringing weapons to the conflict didn't make people want to kill each other. They already wanted the conflict, they already wanted war. You do not get peace by removing the weapons. The problem is the culture, the mindset, of violence, control and power. Not the tools to get those things.

    • @crocodilegambit
      @crocodilegambit  Год назад +5

      Hi, Cloud_Seeker! Thank you for commenting. It appears you figured out exactly what the analysis of the video arrived at. Correct, violence and savagery are in the African DNA, and nothing we can do will ever change that, that is the narrative of Far Cry 2.
      - Malte

    • @Cloud_Seeker
      @Cloud_Seeker Год назад +3

      @@crocodilegambit Going to be honest with you mate. I have not watched the whole video. It is just to long and drag on for much longer than it needs to. The argument the video is is making is kind of forgotten by the length. To actually get where your own position is is hard to tell since you most like have to watch the whole thing. Sure. Having the game compared with the book can be great, but it almost sound like you compare chapter by chapter and page by page.
      I am not against long formed content. But here it doesn't really seem that you are getting to a point for like a hour.

    • @jackreeder215
      @jackreeder215 Год назад

      @@crocodilegambit I would disagree with it saying that, I think it is closer to saying that living conditions are the reason for the violence. Not only with the Jackal Tapes and him condemning the exploitation of the first world against the third, but we even see how corporations still continue to exploit this country with the oil fields and advertisements strung about. I think it's a Marxist game ultimately, even if I am not a Marxist myself I respect the analysis (Egoist btw).

    • @TheLaFleur
      @TheLaFleur 10 месяцев назад

      T.I.A

  • @onetailedjin
    @onetailedjin 10 месяцев назад +2

    This video was absolutely phenomenal 👏 👏👏

  • @vitamc1213
    @vitamc1213 2 года назад +15

    Wow, this is definitely one of the most fascinating videos I have ever seen on RUclips. Well done! I will be sharing this with people who think video games are mindless. I mean granted, a lot are. But, every now and then, you get a hidden gem like Far Cry 2. I hope this style of story and game writing will return. The same guy who did this game also did Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell and Chaos theory, it's no wonder I like the stories of those too.

  • @Ersymondequartiere312
    @Ersymondequartiere312 7 месяцев назад +1

    Extremely well done Analysis, hope similar video comes soon 🎉

  • @sithmakuta2579
    @sithmakuta2579 Год назад +4

    I’m glad I found this video, I really like it. I especially like how you took quotes directly from Heart of Darkness. I’ve decided to buy and read the book before diving into FC2 for a third time. I will definitely check out your channel.

    • @vunenicar
      @vunenicar Год назад +5

      I'm replaying fc2 for 5 time now 😅

    • @LP1401E
      @LP1401E Год назад +3

      @@vunenicarI’ve been addicted to this fantastic game since 2012 very hard not to beat it a few times a year 😅

    • @vunenicar
      @vunenicar Год назад +1

      @@LP1401E very based

  • @ptkstefano
    @ptkstefano 9 дней назад

    This is one of the greatest videos ever made

  • @DrWongburger
    @DrWongburger 9 месяцев назад +9

    I respect the fact that many literary analyses have been written confirming your thoughts regarding the book Heart of Darkness, But that doesn't mean that these interpretations are correct. And no, this is not me complaining about over analyzing. Quite the contrary! I find it to be a disingenuous analysis of the book. It certainly does not illustrate the image that these scholars, and now you, seem to present. An image that the author presents one faction over another.
    My interpretation of the book is the complete opposite. While the setting of Africa definitely has a certain effect, that effect is also rather certainly not what Conrad was attributing to the sorry state of affairs. That effect could be found anywhere on Earth if we are being honest. Especially with geographic flavor added to it as it does with Conrad's book. If anything I think Contrad was illustrating to us that this state of affairs, this anarchy was present within all humanity. A more universalist approach, and one i think was intended by the author.
    Africa as a setting and cultural background was not to blame for the brutal station masters and corporate goons, and it wasnt to blame for the barbaric locals working on their behalf. Everyone was reduced to barbary. Yet Africa as a setting is not to blame, only adding fuel to the fire. Conrad's story is one of greed simply put. A cautionary tale at that.
    Fact of the matter is, and many new age historians and scholars begrudgingly need to admit this, is that Europeans simply were more developed than much of Africa by the time of European colonization in the 19th century. And so, you and otbers perceive Conrad's book in such a fashion.

    • @DrWongburger
      @DrWongburger 9 месяцев назад +7

      And just to hammer in my point that the setting itself isnt the corrupting factor in both the book or the game, the fact that far cry 2's successor far cry 3, is a game where a man loses himself in a new 'setting'- if one were to be reductionist!

  • @manganuke92
    @manganuke92 2 года назад +5

    Great work : )

  • @kainslegacy78618
    @kainslegacy78618 5 месяцев назад +1

    One point i found bloody ironic is the fact that three of the playable characters can, in fact, be considered African themselves. Two of them being so literally. We have one black man from Haïti, one Arab from Northern Africa and another black man from the isles near Madagascar. So the fact that the people of the UAC, especially the warlords, always consider us as an outsider who is only tolerated so long as he is useful really highlights the intolerant nature of those people.
    (One point i found especially funny is at the border control camp Sepoko where there is a sign really emphasizing how unwelcome foreigners are: "Warning! No trespassing! Violators will be shot, Survivors will be shot again." lol. You would think they are protecting some highly classified military installation or something.)

  • @Thump3rrr
    @Thump3rrr Год назад +1

    Just saw this and its phenomenal hope your still making videos i wanna see everything yall upload

  • @dcl9241
    @dcl9241 3 месяца назад +2

    I disagree that this is what Far Cry 2 is about. The protagonist, and the West, is not portrayed as superior to Africa or Africans, and the game’s elements (the cab driver, choice of the player’s ethnicity) do not reflect such. It is about the depravity and horrific capabilities of man in general, not linked specifically to Africa; as another commenter said, the backdrop of the game could have been a multitude of locations, the fact of them being war-torn being what is relevant, not to suggest that the locations themselves are at fault for being so.
    The central character of the game, as expected to be the protagonist, is really The Jackal (he’s the reason you are there, and he motivates your actions throughout the game), and he expresses the game’s message, as he quotes Nietzsche: “A living being above all else seeks to discharge its strength. Life itself is will to power, nothing else matters.” There is no link to Africa or its suggested primitivity whatsoever. Neither your actions as the protagonist, nor the Jackal’s, nor any of the central characters’ or groups’, are excused, justified, or approved on a meta level beyond the will to power; on the contrary, given that the game’s events grow more & more detached, and their ending. The Jackal didn’t “learn it” from the Africans, he’s the one that brought it, and the game doesn’t try to make you forget that. It is on you if you forget it.

  • @fekdaleo
    @fekdaleo Год назад +5

    I watched the whole thing. This is absolutely incredible. I salute you.

    • @vunenicar
      @vunenicar Год назад

      it's sad this masterpiece have only 4k views

  • @g4merboie789
    @g4merboie789 10 месяцев назад +16

    Talk about reaching for conclusions man. The part on how the aides show a bad caricature of black or native people in so disengenous. The aides are obviously mercenaries and are only in it for money. Like you, they would switch sies for it, and probably already have. They are jaded to the cause of the leaders because they have heard it all before. The game has a nihilist perspective on human beings, as exposed by the jackal, the central figure in the story. I would expect a mercenary type to not care at all about the ideology so long as he gets paid, you know, like your character.
    The jackal also loosely quotes from beyond good and evil, about the will to power. How about recontextualizing all of this supposed racism in the depiction of the characters with the perspective that the game tries to show you.
    Not that africans are primitive, but that, deep down, all men are. If you get lost in the jungle, be it in africa or anywhere else, the result is the same. A monster. Africa, just happens to not be as developed in terms of infrastructure and control over their environment compared to any of the countries that your protagonist can come from.
    That's the heart of darkness. The jungle, not africa.
    I was expecting a reasonable and interesting analisys of the game like the video titled the aesthetichs of far cry 2, but instead i got another person who misguedes himself when reading the heart of darkness.
    Highly disappointing...

    • @frogmastiff8198
      @frogmastiff8198 10 месяцев назад +8

      i have to agree I feel like he missed some of the point when it came to the book, its easy to look at an event like heart of darkness, a book which has a stong autobiographical element to it and put it through a ens of modernistic political views, conrad didn't just write about the congo, he did indeed go and get a job there as a merchant navy man and i daresay it nearly killed him, he is in essence at times both the skipper and Kurtz
      Conrad was there and he saw the things he wrote about, not used imperialistic views to dissect imperialism

    • @salmon_wine
      @salmon_wine 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@frogmastiff8198 i think the fact that Conrad was, on some level, imperialist, if only for being raised in that culture, is worth accounting for in the story itself. That being said, I agree that the imperialism angle is way overblown in this video's interpretation of it. I feel that Heart of Darkness is actually a solid criticism of white imperialist CULTURE, namely the same kind of "a man as a mountain" ideas that would resurface in many primarily white cultures.
      Think about being a tribal african in the days when colonizers first appeared. The technology they had would be mind blowing for you, and the culture of imperialists means that those colonizers are gonna *really* lean into the "Yeah we're basically gods" attitude. It kickstarts a kind of Institutionalization of the people now being colonized, kind of a subtle propaganda. The Imperialist mindset really has no desire to break that down. So what happens when that is pushed to it's extreme? Kurtz happens, a man so obsessed with maintaining image and status, that he manipulates people into committing atrocities, on the basis of that image and status, purely for the sake of maintaining it.

    • @ezelegui7901
      @ezelegui7901 9 месяцев назад

      @@salmon_wine african countries are full of black dictators but yeah let's blame white men, so weak

  • @2goodd4u2
    @2goodd4u2 3 месяца назад

    This is a beautiful critique, I would love to hear your thoughts on other entries into the franchise. The series has always been fairly mind numbing to follow as there is an aversion to tackling any of their subject matter seriously without alienating their target audience. If you ever manage to comeback to this whatever you decide on creating I'd be interested in.

  • @JollerMcAwesome
    @JollerMcAwesome Год назад +4

    This video was absolutely phenomenal, from writing to editing! I wanted to thank you for it as it helped inspire me in creating my own video of the first Far Cry game (which also turned out to be ~2 hours), albeit it does not match your level of quality lol

  • @TehMorbidAtheist
    @TehMorbidAtheist 18 дней назад

    Wonderful video. Bravo. should have more views.

  • @heldtkochlyse6521
    @heldtkochlyse6521 Год назад +1

    Keep doing videos man don't give up

  • @Addi_the_Hun
    @Addi_the_Hun 8 месяцев назад

    I am so glad i replayed fc2 recently as to allow me to find this masterpiece of a video.

  • @HQ_Default
    @HQ_Default 4 месяца назад +2

    I do want to respectfully disagree with some of what you said in this video, although I still dropped you a like anyway because this is very well made & researched.
    My reading of the story was more that the "other" that the original HoD would depict as just "Africa", in Far Cry 2 is the much broader concept of "War and Violence". I think one thing that supports this is how basically all the civilians are either trying to escape or lamenting how they're too stubborn to try and escape. So while they might be _used_ to the landscape of violence by this point, they clearly remember a time where their country was more liveable and want to return to that state of normalcy. In fact as it's described, most of the violence comes _from foreigners,_ not from the indigenous population, outside of a few faction leaders. In that sense it's almost an inverse of the original HoD, it's the _outsiders_ coming in and making the locals go crazy, not the other way around.

  • @ThePizzaGoblin
    @ThePizzaGoblin Месяц назад

    I encourage everyone to read the book, "King Leopold's Ghost."

  • @jerryseinfeld-
    @jerryseinfeld- 9 месяцев назад

    Just discovered this coverage, great work!

  • @wizlockfnordfinder
    @wizlockfnordfinder 9 месяцев назад

    I wish to one day be able to, not only write, but also edit videos like this. Much appreciated, sir. : )

  • @Unr3aler
    @Unr3aler 11 месяцев назад +131

    I do agree with one point you make in the video. You indeed read too much into it. In other words I agree with the fact that FC2 does not explore its themes enough and instead just leaves you with an implicit overgeneralized message that can only be decoded if you know the context about how Africa got ruined and is to this day continually exploited by many western nations(and non western ones who joined in later), however, this the furthest I would go with such criticism. Not providing context does not equal=game racist and the way you explain it to the viewers as if they are small children is also fairly annoying (especially since you accuse the game of doing the same to native population). Criticising the game for not having balls is one thing, saying it excuses colonialism just because it does not condemn it is just as assumptious as many of your arguments are. This especially hurts as some of the individual observations are trully great but you are far too focused on delivering specific narrative that it is exactly like the one book. In other words, never atttribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

    • @nathanmitchell7961
      @nathanmitchell7961 10 месяцев назад +22

      Yea i agree with this sentiment and he did kinda hand wave the argument at the start of the video for some reason and didn't talk about it. This is a natural by product of over analysis.

    • @chumbucket6184
      @chumbucket6184 10 месяцев назад +22

      Thanks for summarizing this woke trite so i don't have to listen to 2 hours of leftoid mind vomit

    • @nathanmitchell7961
      @nathanmitchell7961 10 месяцев назад

      I dunno man rightoids are just as cringe nowadays@@chumbucket6184

    • @0PsychosisMedia0
      @0PsychosisMedia0 10 месяцев назад +9

      Yeah, he's coming off as a Mr Actually. Reading into the material and making assumptions to fit his narrative. This guy is a hack.

    • @sirrivet9557
      @sirrivet9557 10 месяцев назад +11

      ​@chumbucket6184 I'm pretty sure the person making this comment is Also left wing bud.

  • @Mangomomomo
    @Mangomomomo Месяц назад +1

    I think this could be a perfect game if there was a coherent political solution in it. Like assisting the UFLL and building a state for the civilians without any outside influence.
    Also nice Werner Herzog accent, it really adds to the African atmosphere.
    P.S I played this game when I was like 11/12 and for some reason it engraved itself as anti-neocolonialist critique. When I had my first social studies class at 13 and read on interdependance-theories regarding today's Africa I directly had this picture of the farcry 2 factions and their state being too deregulated to govern themselves in my head. It all made so much sense when you think about how the west(Or China today too) deliberately tries to keep Africa "open", in conflict and deregulated for their own economic interests. In this way I'm kind of glad I played the game when I was so young and pretty much too stupid to realize just how racist the game really is lol. I really remember it being about African liberation and the abolition of western influence hahah

  • @hypenoir6982
    @hypenoir6982 9 месяцев назад +1

    In the brief moment that it was mentioned it was said that Apocalype Now! Treated native peoples as savage. The only people to do that are colonialists. Ones that have gone mad from the WAR not merely from interacting with the Vietnamese let alone the Cambodian tribe. The only people who treat anyone as “savages” are people who are savages themselves and who are clearly not shown in a good light. The film is about war and desensitization. The book is present in threads alone if you really look at the movie. The anti-imperialist themes present in the film are not misplaced or done wrong as it was kind of implied in the video.
    This video as a whole though is something I really enjoyed, very well put together.

    • @bigmouthprick5852
      @bigmouthprick5852 2 месяца назад

      Isn't this the film where Kurtz expresses admiration for the "red team"/communist guerillas chopping off children's arms after the spec ops teams does inoculation?
      I think that's pretty explicitly painting them as primitive savages.

  • @Lowco5
    @Lowco5 10 месяцев назад

    blessed be the algorithm for showing me this
    Edit: Seriously, this essay was amazing.

  • @frogmastiff8198
    @frogmastiff8198 10 месяцев назад +3

    Back in London in the summer of 1889, Conrad took rooms near the Thames and, while waiting for a command, began to write Almayer’s Folly. The task was interrupted by the strangest and probably the most important of his adventures. As a child in Poland, he had stuck his finger on the centre of the map of Africa and said, “When I grow up I shall go there.” In 1889 the Congo Free State was four years old as a political entity and already notorious as a sphere of imperialistic exploitation. Conrad’s childhood dream took positive shape in the ambition to command a Congo River steamboat. Using what influence he could, he went to Brussels and secured an appointment. What he saw, did, and felt in the Congo are largely recorded in “Heart of Darkness,” his most famous, finest, and most enigmatic story, the title of which signifies not only the heart of Africa, the dark continent, but also the heart of evil-everything that is corrupt, nihilistic, malign-and perhaps the heart of man. The story is central to Conrad’s work and vision, and it is difficult not to think of his Congo experiences as traumatic. He may have exaggerated when he said, “Before the Congo I was a mere animal,” but in a real sense the dying Kurtz’s cry, “The horror! The horror!” was Conrad’s. He suffered psychological, spiritual, even metaphysical shock in the Congo, and his physical health was also damaged; for the rest of his life, he was racked by recurrent fever and gout.
    Conrad was in the Congo for four months, returning to England in January 1891. He made several more voyages as a first mate, but by 1894, when his guardian Tadeusz Bobrowski died, his sea life was over. In the spring of 1894 Conrad sent Almayer’s Folly to the London publisher Fisher Unwin, and the book was published in April 1895. It was as the author of this novel that Conrad adopted the name by which he is known: he had learned from long experience that the name Korzeniowski was impossible on British lips
    'excerpts from Brittanica website'
    great job covering the game but in your description of the book it harkens too you make it seem like conrad writes about africa as if from ideals, the reality is he wrote about africa from personal experiences that were particularly damaging to his health and wellbeing, he was writing from experience

  • @mybrickhead
    @mybrickhead 10 месяцев назад +3

    One of the best videos. On par with the one by Face Full Of Eyes.

  • @berkan5578
    @berkan5578 28 дней назад

    „Theese africans have horrid Rituals!!!“ while they keelhauled a couple people on the way there

  • @skycatlive1576
    @skycatlive1576 10 месяцев назад

    I think this is one of the better videos i've ever seen

  • @Patrick-yu2cy
    @Patrick-yu2cy 11 месяцев назад

    thank you so much for making this video

  • @Mahoromatic
    @Mahoromatic Год назад +5

    I think the Jackal was based on FC1's Jack Carver. Pretty bargain bin game by the time FC2 was out with the likes of Vivisector.

  • @salmon_wine
    @salmon_wine 9 месяцев назад +5

    1:27:15 And now, it is time for the mandatory "ludonarrative dissonance" segment of the youtube video essay about a video game

  • @tsk5328
    @tsk5328 Год назад +6

    this is a very polished and well presented and researched video essay, and i appreciate the work that went into it. unfortunately it kinda, well... it may have side stepped those part of the narrative that where not inclined to the chosen conclusion.

    • @tsk5328
      @tsk5328 Год назад +16

      So yeah...here's a example, this vid uses the quote about "guns aren't biodegradable only the dead are" to support its argument that in this story Africa is seen a violent and corrupting.
      BUT thats the actual end of a paragraph where the Jackal, literally, explains that all these guns come from predominantly European wars, almost every war mention is a civil war, just like the game world and all of them are well known for human atrocities committed during those wars.
      according to a load screen as to why the jackal is targeted "....[the jackal must represent]..some history the black bag crowd doesn't want walking around."
      while load screens and even Ruben (the [only] character who goes on about foreign aid being the answer) all confirm the same thing over and over again: international powers refusing to do anything, "just a another side bar conflict [bla bla, people back home] can click their tongs and plan their next tax deductible donation", "you all talk about helping...[bla bla but instead] you wear ur halos and wring ur hands" Ruben himself even says multiple times "like they [the people he's writing the article for] would even care"
      side note Ruben at one point states in the narrative that he idolises the player, the second last time you see him until the cut scene at the end of the game, he states "I wish i could be more like you" at this point in the story the game ensures you have 3+ infamy so everyone else is already calling you a mad man and backing away from you in town.
      he's also the only character who expresses admiration for the player in the main quest line. Other than the priest who calls you a 'good man' once, only once. just after the tutorial before you have voluntarily done any missions for the factions. after that he just says "go with god" or "be safe" that kinda thing.
      Last and most important point of digression, the famous moment when the jackal says you have to wipe out every cell of the disease, including him and well you know... or u dont.
      any way, thats at the start of the only linear mission in the game. Every single target is a foreigner. without exception, including the only leader left alive to order the attempted genocide of the 2mill escaping civ's which is the largest scale and most direct atrocity in the game. IDK but this seems to suggest a different reading is equally possible, at the very least.
      the reading that every problem in this country, from the jackal to the guns are inherited; from the same places as the people who profit by these problems. Who, while acting superior to the people who's wealth they are depleting, keep perpetuating the the problems.
      quotes on resource depletion: "there used to be diamonds now there's no diamonds and some ...[crazy murk eating peoples harts]..." troops chatting, "except the mines empty" buddy on mission where you flood the mine, "these militia come into our country, steal everything and leave us nothing" taxi driver in into right after calling u a foreigner.
      also little side note: 65% of diamonds come from Africa and Europe is the biggest buyer of uncut diamonds. And most of the guns are stated as coming from Europe; and all the murks are foreigners.
      as face full of eyes says in his brilliant analysis of this game heres a quote "in..[most/pretty much all FPS's]...you go on a vacation to experience things you cant in real life. In Far cry 2 you go through things you hope to never experience in real life."
      here's a link to his longform and brilliant video analyses ruclips.net/video/mx4eSkMBx-U/видео.html
      ut

    • @sprouts7768
      @sprouts7768 Год назад +1

      Now that you mentioned it. Yeah it's pretty obvious this game never tells you out straight but it makes it clear where the blame lies.

    • @crocodilegambit
      @crocodilegambit  Год назад +13

      @@tsk5328 Thank you for taking the time to comment. You appear very passionate about the game, and believe me, I think it's the best Far Cry game ever made, that's why I put that in the description. As you may have spotted in the introduction, however, I point out that literary analysis is not concerned with author intention, and even if you are, to not take Heart of Darkness's narrative into account when analyzing Far Cry 2 will never yield the full picture.
      You recite the, as the conclusion refers to it, "age-old" (1:56:52) anti-colonialist preferred reading of the novel, which, as the preface points out by citing Brantlinger and Achebe, fails due to the colonialist rhetoric in which it is conveyed. The hypothesis of the video is that the game, in its attempt to emulate the novel, likewise fails in this endeavor. Pointing out what the game wants to achieve is unfortunately unhelpful feedback for an analysis of how it fails in what it tries to achieve.
      Even if you disagree with some of what is said in the first 47 minutes, I recommend watching the video in its entirety, it would have saved you a lot of time, as it discusses most of the points you've elaborated on, and just gives you a different viewpoint on a game you clearly love, as do I.
      Best wishes,
      Malte

    • @tsk5328
      @tsk5328 Год назад +5

      @@crocodilegambit hi im not offended or anything, just seeing if the literary analysis should perhaps include a wider data set.
      plus the good news is any comment bad or good is still good for the algorithm XD
      its narrative is impressive though, for a tec demo

  • @GyaruRespecter
    @GyaruRespecter 9 месяцев назад +3

    Shalom!

  • @SorryDavidGoggins
    @SorryDavidGoggins 4 месяца назад +3

    Colonialist rhetoric is why I enjoyed this game so much

  • @BIadelores
    @BIadelores Год назад +1

    One day, the youtube algorhythm will bless you, my friend.

  • @abraxaseyes87
    @abraxaseyes87 9 месяцев назад

    I watched a snail crawl across a straight razor.

  • @wheresmyeyebrow1608
    @wheresmyeyebrow1608 9 месяцев назад

    Absolutely immaculate video

  • @endermarine1686
    @endermarine1686 Месяц назад

    keep up the good work and can you do a atom rpg video?

  • @Cloud_Seeker
    @Cloud_Seeker Год назад +8

    Oh yes. I noticed a objective falsehood in your video. You say all Mercs you can play do not come from Africa. But this is wrong. There are 2 out of 9 character that are from Africa.
    Quarbani Singh is Mauritian, which is in East Africa. Hakim Echebbi is Algerian, which is in North Africa.
    Sorry buddy but I think you are overanalyzing way to much here.

    • @crocodilegambit
      @crocodilegambit  Год назад +8

      Thank you for giving me the opportunity to clarify this murkier point of the video, as there was not enough time for it in the paragraph. I actually wrestled with the idea of an Indian, namely Singh, counting as a foreigner, as Punjab was of course likewise colonized, but since the character is portrayed as a foreigner throughout the plot, and constantly referred to as such by others, the narratives align with those of Marlow. For my thoughts on why the game may have chosen to include Echebbi and refers to him as a foreigner, see my annotation below his blurb at 31:18.
      - Malte

    • @TheLaFleur
      @TheLaFleur 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@crocodilegambitAfrica is not a country, so it makes sense other africans are treated as foreigners in far cry 2, and I'm pretty sure some generic mercenaries are also africans

  • @Zaperwolf
    @Zaperwolf Год назад

    Amazing video!

  • @YouQube05117
    @YouQube05117 9 месяцев назад +1

    Apocalyps now

  • @FarCry2_Vid_Archive
    @FarCry2_Vid_Archive Год назад +1

    bravo, took me a year to find this great analysis!

  • @mungologgo5526
    @mungologgo5526 11 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely terrific video. I can't believe this account has so few subscribers.

  • @n9-xp5tn
    @n9-xp5tn 9 месяцев назад +3

    Great video, but did the Far Cry 2 devs intentionally make similarities to the book? I feel like you see these tropes in many books/games/movies

    • @crocodilegambit
      @crocodilegambit  9 месяцев назад +5

      Thank you! Although this video does not dwell on intentionality, if you are interested in the actual thought process behind the story, I would recommend Game Developer's interview with Far Cry 2's story lead Patrick Redding, "Redefining Game Narrative: Ubisoft's Patrick Redding On Far Cry 2".

  • @gu1nhozaum
    @gu1nhozaum 9 месяцев назад

    Amazing work.

  • @javithor3140
    @javithor3140 Месяц назад

    Sublime video

  • @HomeGymAustralia
    @HomeGymAustralia Год назад +5

    So do you like the game or not?
    Nah in all seriousness great video

    • @crocodilegambit
      @crocodilegambit  Год назад +5

      Actually laughed out loud when I read this. Thank you so much!
      - Malte

    • @HomeGymAustralia
      @HomeGymAustralia 9 месяцев назад

      @@crocodilegambit so glad I could make someone laugh! 😂

  • @jackmaxted5683
    @jackmaxted5683 Месяц назад +1

    I can't sneed

  • @Morg8685
    @Morg8685 Месяц назад

    Good analysis.

  • @grimsk
    @grimsk 10 месяцев назад +2

    파크라이2는 내가 언제나 말하는 최고의 게임 3가지 중 하나였다. 게임이 문화라고 주장하는 이들조차 그것이 문학일 리 없는 것처럼 대하곤 하는 것이 너무 싫다.

  • @HypoIReMIA
    @HypoIReMIA 11 месяцев назад +2

    All hail the gaming Kraut!
    Joking aside, this was a really good summary of the book and the lore of the game!

  • @danielhathaway8817
    @danielhathaway8817 10 месяцев назад +1

    How do you feel about Spec Ops: The Line as an adaptation of Heart of Darkness?

  • @EphemeraEssays
    @EphemeraEssays 9 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic video! It feels like Far Cry 3 was an improvement in this regard, but still hit a lot of the same issues. It's hard to have a story that explores the themes of white saviours and Western imperialism when the FC3 islands consist of tin-roofed shacks lacking any culture, politics, or history

  • @aproppaknoife5078
    @aproppaknoife5078 5 месяцев назад

    Ye, this deserves a sub

  • @jakey5418
    @jakey5418 Месяц назад

    This video slaps

  • @matejkonecny6105
    @matejkonecny6105 10 месяцев назад

    This is really good video essay, thank you for it 🙂 I think that now I have to buy that book and read it for myself

  • @joanofarc21
    @joanofarc21 10 месяцев назад +1

    Have u played planescape torment?

  • @fekdaleo
    @fekdaleo Год назад +2

    Assassin's Creed 1 next maybe?

  • @revofex
    @revofex Год назад

    Great video

  • @icekiller1594
    @icekiller1594 9 месяцев назад

    Wish you guys made more videos

  • @PrinceZakariyya
    @PrinceZakariyya 9 месяцев назад

    underatted video