Why Metal Gear Solid 2 is a Perfect Nightmare
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Do you know what day it is today?
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:16 TANKER
14:08 PLANT
1:26:45 ARSENAL
2:10:44 Conclusion
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damn bro, you REALLY pushed for that 10 minute mark, huh
I really like long videos so this is perfect for me
@mrpickledeggs I like your Humor, Sir.
homestuck located
This is the only acceptable amount of time to properly discuss this game ,
I love long time and long things.
Underneath my METAL GEAR I have a BIG BOSS that is a SOLID SNAKE right now, and it is great for RAIDEN.
NO! That is NOT Solid Snake!
I bet it's RISING for more than just REVENGEANCE
@@lucasc.8577underrated comment
This makes my Naked Snake Solid :)
I just released the LIQUID!
The fact that Dumbsville worked his ass off working this video while fighting off false copyright content ID
W dumbsy
That is not part of the simulation!
RUclipsr: claims Content ID
Dumbsville: NO, THAT IS NOT CONTENT ID
Stop impersonating him!
@@dudemp4 *GUNFIRE*
“RAIDEN! TURN THE GAME CONSOLE OFF NOW”
Words that shook me to my core
I remember I was friends with some brothers and they literally turned off the console and I just said no keep playing.
that shit actually made me turn off my ps2 because by the time that I got to that point in the story it was like 2am. when he became a skull and said that I got really scared and thought it was some sort of copy protection thing and didn't play it again until the next morning when I confirmed with my dad, that was in fact supposed to happen.
Bro i played this just a couple months after 9/11, and this whole ending had my gd hairs straight up on end for HOURS
Nah that AI Conversation is lowkey the most scariest moment in any video game because of how well it has aged.
Was like 3am an I thought I was going crazy. Do I turn it off? Keep going ? 😂
PEAK FICTION ALERT, PEAK FICTION ALERT. THIS IS NOT A DRILL PEOPLE, I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL
Call Dumbsville Oppenheimer because he just dropped the PEAK FICTION NUKE
this nega sounds like a discord mod,I'm not watching allat 😂
This is exactly what I signed up for.
Two hours of Dumbsville gushing about Metal Gear Solid 2.
buss
Think when he gets to MGS3 he's gonna make it 3 hours long? If he decides to make it 3 hours long I expect him to put the full ladder climb
@@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando And considering how long MGS4 is, 4 hours of MGS4 isn't a stretch
Buss
I can’t believe the Patriots copyright system tried to keep you from uploading for so long
The La Li Lu Le Lo was really quiet after this one dropped
Bro where are you they loud as fuck
Aw shit, they got this one. I regret to inform you that The Patriots have Censor Nanomachines in you....shit, you probably didn't even understand what I just....I give up, you can't even understand when I say The Patriots....
You could have waited 14 days for this to be uploaded on April 30th…a very special day…I won’t say why tho…
what the hell are you doing here cuh
@@Adealerofblackberry seeing this man here is like seeing your drug dealer at walmart
@@sallyh1480 fr
I shall say it!
It was the Inaguration of the first President of the United States of America, George Washington on April 30th, 1789.
@@kalebsithnerd119 true fan right here ^
One thing I'd like to add about Solidus and his child soldiers. The First Liberian Civil War happened in 1989, and Solidus was born in 1974, 2 years after Solid and Liquid, so when all of the child soldier shit happened he was only 15. Not only that but it's highly likely it was all done by the patriots, so that means they made a teenager create a child soldier unit, holy fuck. It also kinda humanises him more, since it shows how much of his life was controlled and what travesties he was forced to.
That's a point driven home further in MGSV, where smol Liquid had his own platoon at a younger age, got roped into Diamond Dogs, and ultimately conned the bigger operation for its resources to later one-up them, once Outer Heaven fell apart. He even had his own groomed super soldier (Psycho Mantis) driven insane by mental torture, killed by their loose ends (Solid Snake) and was ultimately being sheparded by the organization he swore to destroy (Ocelot's connection to the Patriots).
Birds of a feather flock together, but also have a habit of flying into the sun.
But remember his rapid aging which caused him to age quickly
He ages faster. And also, they refer to him as a true clone. He wasn't actually born like solid and liquid. He was just straight up created. That's how I understand it.
@@neringalukoseviciute1787he was still mentally 15, even if he looked about say, 30
@@zaiden_2006Exactly, he was very likely fucked in the head because of that.
The whole conversation with Raiden where he says: "I'll decide for myself what to believe in"
and they clap back with: "But is that even your own idea?"
"Or something Snake told you?"
Is the absolute pinnacle of an ideological roast
Also I like Rose and I think her writing was extremely on the nose in the beginning completely on purpose. Her actual character shown during the later half is actually really well realized
Exactly, a bunch of dummies decided to hat3 the shit out of her which, to be honest I started to become a little distraut at her in mgs4 when she did..what she did.
But in Kojima fashion it was all for a reason not to be taken at face value. Which, unfortunately, a bunch of people who play metal gear do.
Kojima reportedly modeled Rose after his own wife.
it isn't though cause one is preaching individuality and choosing for yourself were as the other wants to control literally everything, the whole thing is about the need for individuality and the danger of collectivism and even if a government does take everything over you have to use what individuality in your daily life to keep going
snakes speech at the end to raiden describes it perfectly the only part he doesn't spell out is the danger with a big collectivist government but i feel like all of MGS spells that out its very clear they are frustrated with collectivism which makes sense considering how collectivist japan is, i feel this is a inspiration to the people of there country to be happy and chose for themselves and a warning to the rest of the world of the dangers of collectivism
sorry for putting so much i love the series and its message and if i miss understood your point and put all this for nothing sorry lmao
Dumbsville made a video about MGS2 with the length of the actual gameplay of MGS2
Kojima really deserves props for inventing the first nightmare type game.
Can you recommend other ones that are similar (I love profound media that haunt but also teach me)
Play who's Lila. You'll love it
Are u still 17?
PEAK INCOMING
This about to be peak FICTION ONG
@emerald_fury3754 ok, but why does this matter? (Also spelled josuke wrong)
EDIT: he deleted comment:(
I saw this comment 2 hours 19 minutes and 19 seconds ago and wondered what it ment. I now understand
That’s what ur mummmmm saidsssss
1:16:30 the fact that classified blueprints of some military vehicle got leaked on the war thunder forums a few weeks ago AGAIN is hilarious
Summary of mainline Metal Gear Solid games:
Revolver Ocelot trolls everyone involved in execution of Boss's will, wins by manipulating everyone and doing absolutely nothing, to stay away from this mess.
Yes, him being born on the beaches of Normandy is absolutely crucial to the plot.
_Revolver Ocelot - The man who trolled the world_
Bro is trolling so hard you have to pay a fee to get past him.
@@colt1903 LIIIIQUIIIIDDDDD
@@Ratscallion_exe SNEEEEEEEK
MGS2 is like a weirdly peak horror game in itself with some of that meta shit.
MGS1 too
“Newgrounds Era” Early Internet: MGS2 sucks. This story is too complicated, I wanna play as Snake.
“YTP-2016Surrealism Era” Internet: haha, MGS2 is the best because “A DUD?!”
“Post-Irony Era” Internet: Peak MGS, Bravo Kojima
MGS2 is peak "you won't understand it, but your kids will love it"
Raiden and Colonel talking about AI usage is gonna play out 100% as meme'd.
To be honest, I absolutely loved it when I was a kid playing it for the first time. And the ending was creepy as hell, I sat through it all.
as the game says, echo chambers stall evolution.
As a filthy zoomer, MGS2 unironically blew my mind away when I first played it when I was 19 on my PS3 and is still my favorite Metal Gear game next to 3.
Peak Kojungus writing.
Bro playing this and MGS3 back to back within a month was just 😭😭😭
Peak bro 😭😭
Your ass is NOT a zoomer
Me when I’m in a gaslighting competition and my opponent is rose:
holy fucking shit it finally released
This game’s deceptive marketing with Raiden being hidden from the trailers is like TLOU 2 if it was good
Also, I gotta say, after thinking about it, I feel like this video has made me realize that Solidus is lowkey my favorite MGS antagonist
“She Metal on my Gear till I’m Solid”
So true
Fun fact! I believe if you call Otacon on the Codec enough time, Meiling will have a voiced cameo
Save specificity
36:28 The "Godzilla vs King Kong" bit cuts a bit deeper than that. Godzilla is also mentioned in MGS3, and has a lot of parallels to Naked Snake: both of them were mutated from atomic testing to not only be sterile, but to go on the assault once its territory was threatened, and could only be stopped once a bigger threat threatens Godzilla. Meanwhile, King Kong was found on an indigenous island as a natural treasure contained within a wilderness to experience freedom, but was later caged when modern civilizations realized he was worth his weight in gold. He was later ensnared by raiders and was tormented, but endured it for Ann whom he had feelings for. He only escapes when the coast is clear, but in New York, there's only so many places to hide. And yes, there is a Son of Kong spinoff too. He was taken down by *biplanes,* Jacks if you will.
In addition, the original "Godzilla vs. Kong" was a compromise after Toho couldn't get their intended monster. The previous title? "Godzilla vs. Frankenstein".
This reference is so big it spilled over to the sequels.
Missed opertinity to release this video on April 30th smh
But not too late to realize the importance of the day
Maybe it was gonna if it wasnt for the copyright claim
What's so important about April 30th? Could someone be passive-aggressive about it while I'm on an important stealth mission
Raiden, disregard what I just told you. The most important thing for you to do now is enjoy a mouth-watering Egg McMuffin Sandwich from the new All-Day Breakfast Menu at McDonald's. All of your favourite McDonald's breakfast items, now available all day at participating McDonald's restaurants.
And Raiden, always remember; I'm loving it.
The entirety of this game is "what did Hideo "games" "LA CREATIVIDAD" Kojima mean by this" and I love it. Like all pissing and shitting around aside, this genuinely might be my favorite game of all time and a game that shaped who I am today: an autistic king.
Gonna be real, the fact this game manages to explore and cover one of the most important messages that anyone can ever really be given to learn, and the fact people who played this game [presumably to the end] literally disregarded this and called the game bad is abysmally absurd
The fact this video has a few thousand views is criminal, I'm sure others have gone through the game before and cut it apart to analyze every line of dialog, but the way this is formatted makes this information alot easier to understand and absorb, so good job on that
"Metal Gear Solid 2" and "Legend of Zelda Wind Waker" are the two biggest examples of how stupid fanbases can be, and funnily enough both issues almost solely happened because of the trailers of said games.
the fanbase was in awe they were dissatisfied with not being snake. and raiden is only a little cooler by the end of the game but is pretty lame throughout
I met David Hayter at a anime convention in Portland. He asked me what my favorite game in the series was and I told him it was Mgs2
I can somehow imagine him doing that in the solid snake voice
"So kid, what's your favorite metal gear game huh?"
u shouldve told him
MGSV! then smile and tell him its a joke my fave mgs is mgs2 😅
Ah yes, the video you fought for finally arrives
Near the end when Snake was talking to Raiden about how his experiences are his alone, reminded me about something i learned in my Philosophy of Mind class i took last year. In that no one has access to your mind, and what reality is is ultimately up to you, given you cannot know what someone else is thinking and feeling, and they cant in return. I first found it terrifying, but found comfort in knowing that my experience is my own, and given that, it made me appreciate reality and existence more. Thanks dumbsy for this epic video, and thank Hideo Kojima for creating peak fiction.
I still hold one of my favourite moments involving this game was showing my friend the later codec calls with the patriot AI Cambell and Rose when they started talking about the internet and the moden day.
My man went from semi memeing and joking to looking like something just phased through a wall in front of him, most of the shit the AI spoke about can apply to the modern Internet and it's amazing
3:11 mfs be saying "MGS1 introduced games as an artform" while slandering the GOAT ecco the dolphin
MY SNAKE IS SO SOLID RN🔥🔥🔥
This is it. This is the magnum opus of the Dumbsville Canon.
This is a genuinely beautiful video. It’s gotten me to relive what I had felt, gone through, while playing MGS2.
Seriously, thank you Dumbsville.
You know what’d be cool if they remade it. If they advertised it as the game that showed what Raiden did before becoming a cyborg
So basically the original concept mgrr
Hideo Kojima going back in time to cause the Red Scare so a bunch of writers could make political commentary so it would lead to him making peak fiction:
MGS' meta humor makes me wish Kojima would make a Deadpool game.
Would have been 2000x better than that one we got which was basically Conker's Bad Fur day but done worse and not hilarious
Dumbsville This is probably one of your best videos Of All time
Love your Videos
1 hour and 19 minutes for The first review...
2 hours and 19 minute's for this second review...
Good lord i can't even imagine how long the 3rd review will take or if he will do all of them to Metal Gear Revengeance...
You forgot that if you shoot the box, "pliskin" complains about it on the codec
Harry Gregson-Williams was not the only composer on MGS2, but also Norihiko Hibino. He composed the tracks that you showcased for how good the music is :). Essentially, most gameplay tracks are composed by Hibino, and most cutscene tracks are composed by Gregson-Williams.
The thumbnail is by far my favorite one so far. COOKED ON THAT ONE.
oh, and the video is good to :)
I come across YT videos covering video games that could maybe get a chuckle out of me every so often. Very seldom do I find something that literally makes me laugh out loud throughout the entire video. This is one of those.
Love your editing man. This is one of my all time favorites!
1:32:42 God I love how you put aspects of the game into your own video. This genuinely got me for a moment...
For real though, I knew both about the mass-produced ray fight (and the cutscenes immediately surrounding it) and vaguely that the Colonel was an AI going into my first playthrough of this game. It was NOT enough to stop this segment from fucking me up bad. It shook me up (especially when you are stuck in the tunnel for a bit until Snake finds you)...
No fiction is more peak than Gez: enter the geico
Snake: Raiden you truly are John metal gear and I’m honored to call you a friend.
The first video hard reeled me into MG as a series, and after spending hours looking into the entire series from videos and such, I got REALLY excited waiting for this video to come out. I absolutely love how Dumbsville handled and explained everything, and I'm hella excited to see more, good job dude!
I've been waiting for you to drop for what feels like ages. Glad to see the MGS2 video finally here 🎉🎉
I like that in every Metal Gear Solid, Ocelot is the only one that knows what is going on.
Dumbsville really kept us waiting with this banger huh.
refreshed my youtube for two days straight waiting for this video, still can’t believe this hasn’t hit 100k yet amazing video brother
I really enjoy the editing & work that went into this video. Excellent job delivering the contrast the game has to offer
I love how Kojima with each game it is the Lore gets a lot more exciting like to get to know more about why they're doing this and who's behind this is so interesting this is why I love metal gear it's one of my favorite franchises
This was a fantastic video. Can't wait to see you talking about Snake Eater for 3 hours.
This is one of your best videos editing wise, absolutely outstanding work.
I honestly needed this. This video is really good, well-edited and the message this game has is something everyone needs to hear and understand. Love your vids Dumbsy, this was well worth it.
i wonder if this guy whose nickname sounds a lot like snake pliskin from escape from new york is solid snake
watching this video was terrifying because my computer is kinda old and actually does freeze and crash sometimes, i kept forgetting that it was part of the video
Thank you. Dumbsville.
Thank you for talking about stuff like this and passing it on.
I truly do, salute you.
Man this is some great content, i love the metal gear series, and i hope the low view count doesn't scare you away from making more. Great explanations, I was able to understand the message much more clearly.
There was not a single joke or meme included in the section about the final conversation with the AI. That's how you know it's serious.
Pretty sure Harry Gregson Williams just composed the main theme. Most of the other in game songs were composed by Norihiko Hibino. Great video though 👍
Williams did the cutscene tracks, while Hibino wrote the in game tracks and was the lead composer, he also remixed some of William's stuff to fit the cutscenes better.
@@dsa2505 thanks for the correction. Such a fantastic overall score.
Jesus, almost 2 hours and editing is so masterful, especially on the Arsenal part
Just started getting back into metal gear this past week and the timing of this video is VERY interesting. Thanks for reviewing my favorite in the series!
another good video finally it came out hoping you will make a MGS3 video 💪💪
Snake snakes his way through a soild situation
I've never had the chance to play MGS 1 or 2 but I've been captivated by your videos about them, your narration and editing skills are phenomenal, thank you for putting so much effort into making this
2+ hours of Dumbsville is the perfect addition to my day
Dude I love how everytime you make one of these videos you reference y'know the media you are reviewing itself, memes centered around it, memes ajancent to that, and, oh yeah, Modern games like Cod or even, Alone in the Dark (which I don’t mind, I just, I just think they are better horrorgames out their, like MGS2, or whatever, cusse it'san alright game, the enemies, gameplay and story, they just, pale in the face compsred to games like Alan Wake 2! But still), (including games you said that you were gonns play like Bioshock, but you somehow ended up playing them anyway), but idk, that's just something I kind of like about your content, taking random things that might not corilate to something, and somehow making that work, sorta like what I try to do but am not good at cause sometimes I talk about certain things for to long and my confidence about what I was talking about might wane for the stupidest of reasons, weather that being me getting rage bated, or being embarrassed at writing way to long comments in a short comments therad, but despite that, and despite the fact that half/all the things you review I either never see beforehand, or have but just didn’t have the time or patience to continue with it (like weather that'd be most of your bad/good movies that you reviewed, or bad/good games), despite that I still like your content because no matter how long or short the video is, I will (sometime) always like your wacky sense of editing and humor, so thsnks for making good content (at least in my opinion that is), I hope you continue to do so, you also deserve a million or so subscribers, and I also hope that you have a good day!
New Smartstown video!!!
man all the speeches in the end of this game are just so incredible just insanely well written pieces
That false video ending at the 1hr 32min mark was genuinely terrifying even after playing the game twice because I've had almost all of those videos in my recommended feed in the past couple days
1:32:42 actually got me, amazing work lego obiwan
Anyone else watching this on April 30th?🎉🎉🎉
I am
Yes! Thank you so much for finally uploading this! Ever since I saw your Bronies review I've been obsessed with this game. Definitely my favorite in the Trilogy.
This is one your best videos imo dude.actually looking forward to watching the vid abt mgs3
It's amazing how when people do videos about the games they loved the most you can feel It all because the quality is so much better than normal
I was gonna be upset if Dumbsville didn't add the McDonalds bit at the end.
This video’s fucking amazing, can’t wait for the MGS3 review
the only thing about the tutorial repeating in the big shell start is because you can select in which moment you want to start the game, either the tanker part or the big shell, both can be "the starting point"
Legitimately teared up, thank you for this
If I were to make a metal gear solid 2 spiritual successor, I'd have it to where you got some headset that helps you auto aim and you could take it off at any point. At some points you may find that the soldier you shot, maybe killed, was just an officer doing his duty, or even a normal citizen. The AI obviously controlling the headset if you found out, saying they are bettering humanity by removing the problematic factors of civilization. Further, if you refuse to go along with the AI's plan, they mark you as a enemy of the states.
I dunno. Plot point I thought of on the spot.
very hyped for the mgs3 review
Dude great video! I have listened to many retrospectives and deconstructions on every mgs game. But you breach a very different way of commentary. With comedy, memes, and person points you cover with yourself experience. You gotta keep uploading videos like this, your creating an easy, funny, and introspective take that people can take in and see things on, in their own view that they may have not come to on their own way that they may have not realized.
Good video! Well worth the wait.
i've never played an mg game but i gotta admit the absolute chadness of kojima being able to write an anti-fanfiction, that's like something i've never even heard of before until now
Gona tell my kids this was the metal gear solid movie
Back in 2022 I was first getting into Metal Gear Solid, around that time thought I went through a really rough breakup. I felt exactly like how Raiden felt when his world started to fall apart. I didn't know how to feel or what to do, for a few weeks of my life I felt aimless. That was until I finished Metal Gear Solid 2. Solid Snake told me exactly what I needed to hear in that moment. The emotional connection I have, the insane attention to detail that should be studied in game design classes for decades to come, the profound narrative and the metanarrative that makes the plot only work as a video game is why I think Metal Gear Solid 2 is the best game ever made.
Nice content dude, thank you for your work!
A wonder that the colonel didn't say "age hasn't slowed you down one bit" to raiden
Probably cause Raiden is only 26 lmao
@@dumbsvillewhat was the music at the patreon credits of the MGS1 video
I want to know 😢
I think his Snake impression is getting better.
Watching this after I beat this game like I did with the first Metal Gear Solid.
And I can definitely say it’s a great video for what is now one of my favorite games of all time. The glitchy effects, especially in the Arsenal chapter is pretty unsettling, like how that whole sequence in the game was.
And that ending… it moved me so much to the point where I think I have to actually reflect on my life and my views on the world I live in.
Overall I’m glad I could experience this video now that I beat this masterpiece of a game, and will definitely look forward to the eventual Snake Eater video.
I really appreciate these videos man
PLEASE KEEP MAKING METAL GEAR VIDEOS 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️
Why are you yelling?
GET THAT YAM OFF YO FACE
Yell dead cell kid!
Why are you not used to verbal home yelling abuse with the psycho combo wombo ya need with weed n jackieboi?
I may be a bit late to say this, but what a great review this was.This is one of your best videos by far !! Thanks for sharing this with us !!
I really appreciate the way you made this video in a way that recreates the feeling of playing the game and isn't simply a recap. I love video games but I don't play many of them myself, so it's kind of annoying when some "story analysis" or "retrospective" video essays are structured in a way that feels like it's completely spoiling everything or just giving a boring run down of plot points instead of helping me to appreciate the game. I didn't feel like that at all with this video it's so well done! Super good watch whether you've played the game, only know the plot, or know nothing at all :)