thanks for posting this video, just starting a full custom build myself, using a 72 c30, and will be doing the 22.5 wheels myself. gives me more to study on before wasting my money.
Wow I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge . I just bought a square body dully. I am looking to convert the stock steel wheels over to simiwheels. This video is gonna save me money and headaches from trying to figure it out blind sided . Much love. Loyalty and Respect
Years ago.. when Aztec was off Gulf Bank. I took him some nissan Titan wheels for ny D21. After asking to only cut about .5" into the hub, they cut about 3" in causing holes to show in each and all lug nut bores. The lug nut kinda blocks the view of the hole but still... anyways Great Video, I Liked and Subbed.
I ended up getting my wheels milled at extreme on Jensen.. Jamie was cool but the machinist that was going to cut my wheels at Aztec didn’t know anything about semi conversions.. extreme mills 22s all day and night the old fashioned way on a big lathe...
So Getting A cab & Chassis is Better For Semi Wheels ? Fitment wise ? I’m looking at getting a 1987 Dually And The Guy told me the rear end Is 8 inches Narrower.
I dont know how logical it would be but i have a 1980 dodge i want to turn into a dually with 22.5s was thinking about buying a rear cutout from a box truck
SO BASICALLY ALL OF THE RIMS ARE THE SAME RIGHT? BECAUSE I WANT TO PUT 24.5 RIG RIMS ON MY C3500 GMC. BUT I DONT WANT TO BUY ALL 6 AND I GOTTA DEAL WITH A LOST WITH MY MONEY. HELP ME OUT HERE B4 I DO SOMETHING CRAZY LOL
Are there inside specific wheels? I understand for a specific application, the answer might change. I've looked for the regular dually wheels and fuel makes a specific inner wheel. But if I go this route (assuming there are no hiccups) can I just buy 6 22.5 x 9 wheels and they are universal, in mounting location? My fear is that I would buy 6 on eBay just to find out that they were super singles and/or there were inners that I needed to buy. If they are super singles, I might just go that route to save money plus I'm okay with the dually super single look. But in general, say that I buy 6, 22.5 x 6.5-7.5 wheels, can I just buy 6? Or do I get 4 and find 2 inners?
@@chriscraft77022 In mine in using a 3/4 ton rear end it isn't as wide as a dually rear but not a short as the c&c. I shouldn't have to widen the tubs. And wheels should tuck
do you have videos? I have a 3/4 ton rear end too.. ( not on the truck) I thought the hubs were different not the housing.. the tuck is perfect with C&C if you are going to lower the truck ..but you have to mini tub.. I did all that last year and it worked out 100%
@@chriscraft77022 I don't yet. I haven't been able to get started on it yet. I went through dually king for wheels and told him my set up and he made the wheels for the set up and for bags. Both my cars are broke down at the moment so once I get the Ls in my truck I can fix my daily then get on it.
Hi Chris! Thanks for the VERY useful information. I'm based in The Netherlands and will do a conversion to 22" (milled 22.5" Alcoa's) on my 1984 GMC C3500 Dually Single Cab. I will work with the original inner steel 16" wheels to keep the cost down. The posts on RUclips from Horsepower Depot show/proof that it will work and will look good. 1) Do you know what Alco wheels I should get for the rear outers? The 7.5", 8.25" or the 9"? The tire that Horsepower Depot use after milling them down to 22" is 265/40 22. That would indicate the 9" wide Alco wheel... But I'm not sure... 2) You mention that on the front axle, (almost) anything goes. Would the 9" wide wheel fit and not rub? Most info I find says 8.25" for the front axle... 3) Milling. Is only the wheel core diameter milled down from 22.5" to 22"? Or are the outer lips (that 'hold' the tire on the wheel) also reduced in diameter and or width to fit normal car tires? Thnx in advance for your insights!
you need to understand what you are doing before you waste your money.. I don’t know what horse power depot is. I don’t know what your rear axle wms to wms is.
@@chriscraft77022 Hi Chris! Thank you for swift reply! Horsepower Depot have uploaded three or four videos 'Lowered 1978 Chevy C30 Dually' in which they lowered the truck 8/6" and put it on milled 22.5" Alcoa's (down to 22"). WMS-WMS is 72" on mine, as far as I know. Its still is CA and will be container-shipped tot Europe in 1-2 weeks... I'm trying to get all information to prevent wasting money. By the way, I found used 22.5" Alcoa's for sale not only in 8.25", but also in 7.5" and 9" width aplenty here. Some in The Netherlands, some in Germany (I'm 15 miles from the German border here...)
well, since you are mentioning them you must think they know more about it than I do. So I suggest you ask them.. when you get the truck and if you still havent figured it out ask me and I will tell you what you need to know. because whatever I say is going to be compared to them. and you will agree with them .. so why ask me anything in the first place?
@@chriscraft77022 I DO NOT think they know more than you. I think you know much more, based on your very detailed and logical expanations in part 1... I just mentioned the truck of Horsepower Depot since its similar/identical to mine and the set/kit they bought fits well and looks good. They just fit it. That's it. You, on the contrary, showed in your three videos that you know what you are doing and got down to the important details... That's why I thought I'd ask you... I do not want to simply order the kit they installed, since I have to ship it to Europe and pay import taxes and VAT and shipping. I prefer to first understand what I'm doing and then buy the correct used wheels & new adapters and build my truck cost effective and on a budget. My goal is to get a nice tuck in the fenders (1/2 to 3/4"' between tire and fender) and max tire width on the front axle withouy any rubbing. From your vids I understand 9" for the rears and 8.25" front axle. Do you have any tips for the milling? Is it only the core diameter that is brought down to 22" or need the outer lips need to be modified too? Thanx in advance for sharing your thoughts...
you need (2) 9.0” steer wheels for the rear outers..the ones I show in part 1 (2) 8.25” standard for the fronts.. they only machine the bead seat down 1/4” do not touch the side wall of the rim.. “dually king” has a video showing how the milled wheels should look like.. “switch suspension” shows it in a video with a white truck.. I got my adapters from duallywheelsforu out of Florida,USA
@@groundedgarage5731 it's a 14 bolt pan ... look for the smaller 8 bolts on the end of the axle (full floating axle). Flat beds ,tool body's, older tow trucks, I actually pulled mine from a 2500 square body suburban
thanks for posting this video, just starting a full custom build myself, using a 72 c30, and will be doing the 22.5 wheels myself. gives me more to study on before wasting my money.
Probably some of the best beforehand info when buying big wheels for dually's...hands down awesome help!!!
Dude I’m building a GMC truck and your videos have really helped me out. Thank for the awesome information keep up the good work brother.
Wow I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge . I just bought a square body dully. I am looking to convert the stock steel wheels over to simiwheels. This video is gonna save me money and headaches from trying to figure it out blind sided .
Much love. Loyalty and Respect
i have parts 2 and 3.. feel free to ask me anything
When I restored my 70 GTO it took me longer to research stuff than it did to actually rebuild the car. LOL Great video Chris
Thanks for educating me free of charge.
So much information. Thank you!
As always I learned something new! Thanks for posting this video!
Years ago.. when Aztec was off Gulf Bank. I took him some nissan Titan wheels for ny D21. After asking to only cut about .5" into the hub, they cut about 3" in causing holes to show in each and all lug nut bores. The lug nut kinda blocks the view of the hole but still... anyways Great Video, I Liked and Subbed.
I ended up getting my wheels milled at extreme on Jensen.. Jamie was cool but the machinist that was going to cut my wheels at Aztec didn’t know anything about semi conversions.. extreme mills 22s all day and night the old fashioned way on a big lathe...
I want to do this but put some super singles 445/50/R22.5
Factory Mack Rim. The round one are universal.
You can get the wheel covers much cheaper going through Iowa 80 and 4 States trucks. Temu sells the exact same setup for 60$
Great info, keep it up! 🤘
So Getting A cab & Chassis is Better For Semi Wheels ? Fitment wise ?
I’m looking at getting a 1987 Dually And The Guy told me the rear end Is 8 inches Narrower.
I dont know how logical it would be but i have a 1980 dodge i want to turn into a dually with 22.5s was thinking about buying a rear cutout from a box truck
There are Freightliner Wheel. The holes shaped like the Freightliner emblem.
freightliber emblem is just a long bubble
SO BASICALLY ALL OF THE RIMS ARE THE SAME RIGHT? BECAUSE I WANT TO PUT 24.5 RIG RIMS ON MY C3500 GMC. BUT I DONT WANT TO BUY ALL 6 AND I GOTTA DEAL WITH A LOST WITH MY MONEY. HELP ME OUT HERE B4 I DO SOMETHING CRAZY LOL
Are there inside specific wheels? I understand for a specific application, the answer might change. I've looked for the regular dually wheels and fuel makes a specific inner wheel. But if I go this route (assuming there are no hiccups) can I just buy 6 22.5 x 9 wheels and they are universal, in mounting location? My fear is that I would buy 6 on eBay just to find out that they were super singles and/or there were inners that I needed to buy. If they are super singles, I might just go that route to save money plus I'm okay with the dually super single look. But in general, say that I buy 6, 22.5 x 6.5-7.5 wheels, can I just buy 6? Or do I get 4 and find 2 inners?
Have a sending unit in tank bought a meter gas meter don’t seem to work to mark the gas
Cool truck
Yep, 3/4 ton rear
what does that mean?
@@chriscraft77022 In mine in using a 3/4 ton rear end it isn't as wide as a dually rear but not a short as the c&c. I shouldn't have to widen the tubs. And wheels should tuck
do you have videos? I have a 3/4 ton rear end too.. ( not on the truck) I thought the hubs were different not the housing.. the tuck is perfect with C&C if you are going to lower the truck ..but you have to mini tub.. I did all that last year and it worked out 100%
@@chriscraft77022 I don't yet. I haven't been able to get started on it yet. I went through dually king for wheels and told him my set up and he made the wheels for the set up and for bags. Both my cars are broke down at the moment so once I get the Ls in my truck I can fix my daily then get on it.
You can use steel wheels for your inner wheel on the back...cheaper and nobody will ever see it.
No 22" steel even options
@@shaunhemi4219
They use the 16 inch rims on the inside and the 22 inch on the outside and front.
They're freightliner wheels
Hi Chris! Thanks for the VERY useful information. I'm based in The Netherlands and will do a conversion to 22" (milled 22.5" Alcoa's) on my 1984 GMC C3500 Dually Single Cab. I will work with the original inner steel 16" wheels to keep the cost down. The posts on RUclips from Horsepower Depot show/proof that it will work and will look good. 1) Do you know what Alco wheels I should get for the rear outers? The 7.5", 8.25" or the 9"? The tire that Horsepower Depot use after milling them down to 22" is 265/40 22. That would indicate the 9" wide Alco wheel... But I'm not sure... 2) You mention that on the front axle, (almost) anything goes. Would the 9" wide wheel fit and not rub? Most info I find says 8.25" for the front axle... 3) Milling. Is only the wheel core diameter milled down from 22.5" to 22"? Or are the outer lips (that 'hold' the tire on the wheel) also reduced in diameter and or width to fit normal car tires? Thnx in advance for your insights!
you need to understand what you are doing before you waste your money.. I don’t know what horse power depot is. I don’t know what your rear axle wms to wms is.
@@chriscraft77022 Hi Chris! Thank you for swift reply! Horsepower Depot have uploaded three or four videos 'Lowered 1978 Chevy C30 Dually' in which they lowered the truck 8/6" and put it on milled 22.5" Alcoa's (down to 22"). WMS-WMS is 72" on mine, as far as I know. Its still is CA and will be container-shipped tot Europe in 1-2 weeks... I'm trying to get all information to prevent wasting money. By the way, I found used 22.5" Alcoa's for sale not only in 8.25", but also in 7.5" and 9" width aplenty here. Some in The Netherlands, some in Germany (I'm 15 miles from the German border here...)
well, since you are mentioning them you must think they know more about it than I do. So I suggest you ask them.. when you get the truck and if you still havent figured it out ask me and I will tell you what you need to know. because whatever I say is going to be compared to them. and you will agree with them .. so why ask me anything in the first place?
@@chriscraft77022 I DO NOT think they know more than you. I think you know much more, based on your very detailed and logical expanations in part 1... I just mentioned the truck of Horsepower Depot since its similar/identical to mine and the set/kit they bought fits well and looks good. They just fit it. That's it. You, on the contrary, showed in your three videos that you know what you are doing and got down to the important details... That's why I thought I'd ask you... I do not want to simply order the kit they installed, since I have to ship it to Europe and pay import taxes and VAT and shipping. I prefer to first understand what I'm doing and then buy the correct used wheels & new adapters and build my truck cost effective and on a budget. My goal is to get a nice tuck in the fenders (1/2 to 3/4"' between tire and fender) and max tire width on the front axle withouy any rubbing. From your vids I understand 9" for the rears and 8.25" front axle. Do you have any tips for the milling? Is it only the core diameter that is brought down to 22" or need the outer lips need to be modified too? Thanx in advance for sharing your thoughts...
you need (2) 9.0” steer wheels for the rear outers..the ones I show in part 1 (2) 8.25” standard for the fronts.. they only machine the bead seat down 1/4” do not touch the side wall of the rim.. “dually king” has a video showing how the milled wheels should look like.. “switch suspension” shows it in a video with a white truck.. I got my adapters from duallywheelsforu out of Florida,USA
Man this is some valuable info ill definitely look into all this when im ready to buy mine.
are you really gonna run 22s on yours?
@@chriscraft77022 well that's the plan but maybe not for another year or so.
Where can I get those wheels?
I'm about to buy 22.5 america force for 1500 for a 1983 dually with adapters will a 22 inch tires fit a 22.5 wheel???
@@giomtzz956 no, you have to get them machined to 22"
That one wheel is for a freightliner. Keep up the good work. Do you have Instagram?
What you are calling centric are called budds or stud pilot. The other style is called hub pilot. You can get a 22.5 tire as small as a 255 70 r22.5
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One question I've always had about dually trucks is that are the rear inner wheels the exact same as outer wheels just flipped the other way?
yes.. all the same
@@chriscraft77022 Thank you!
The other wheels were freight liner wheel
beautifull... you use wheels 22.5 with 22" tires???
yes, wheels milled down to 22”
On the cab and chassis axle what is the measurement from backing plate to backing plate
wms to wms is 63.5”
@@chriscraft77022 been looking for a cab and chassis rear axle, just trying to find out if there is a way I can tell without pulling the wheels off
@@groundedgarage5731 it's a 14 bolt pan ... look for the smaller 8 bolts on the end of the axle (full floating axle). Flat beds ,tool body's, older tow trucks, I actually pulled mine from a 2500 square body suburban
Why can you have lug centric
Man, Any idea on Alcoa set up for 99 dually
it’s the same as my truck same hub diameter
How is the chevelle project going?
I gotta get a place to paint it
Do you still have the flat bed?
yeah, but I’m gonna keep it for a welding table
What lug nuts should I use?
for the adapters? It depends what the vehicle is
Where is the place you cut your wehels
Extreme Texas wheels and adapters on Jensen dr
Thanks
Those are freightliner wheela
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