basically, if you are creating a "liminal space," you are actually creating the endpoint of the space. it is not transitional, it is complete. it is intended to be viewed or explored in the same way you would a non-liminal space; like your own home, for example. it is not in a state of change, the way a dead mall or a store which is being taken apart to be closed down would be.
"Ceci n'est pas une pipe“ Basically, everything you said can be applied to all art inspired by all subjects. Even a picture of a liminal space that is framed and lit in the specific way isn’t the same as actually being there. I don’t know if I find these distinctions useful or helpful to people enjoying art. I’m happy when people enjoy liminal spaces in whatever form.
@Shookey…. And a picture of a pizza isn’t a pizza because you can’t eat it. From a place of being purely constructive,, I think people are struggling to understand just why you’re pointing this out about liminal space art.
@Shookey Oh my goodness, one of my most liked RUclipsrs replied to me! So cool!! :DD - Hehe, no problem, friend!! I think your videos are very interesting to watch! You don't have to take me into consideration!! I'd watch anything you make! I appreciate your compliments, though 😁😁
That's why I always believed Backrooms, Dreamcore and Weirdcore are sub-genres. I've honestly heard some people saying these aesthetics are the same as Liminal Spaces. Also- as a Liminal Space photographer who sometimes makes Minecraft versions or edits of the real spaces I take when I'm bored....I've noticed a significant vibe change between the real and the artificial photos I have. The edits or remakes just don't hit as hard as my own photos.
I often use the word liminal to describe things that are in a state of "inbetween-ess" while still not really being in the same plane as the things it is "inbetween". Like something in the middle of past and future, but without being the present, in this reality at least. I use it for anything tho, not only involving time. I know this isn't exactly the definition of liminal, but I really like using it to describe things that people don't often understand, and that I dont really have a better word for, like what I use it for the most, explaining things in my orientations and gender identities, which tends to be very complex to other people.
it's quite funny seeing how a lot of people missed/misinterpreted the main point of the video, when I grasped it so easily. I think people specially don't understand the difference between things that are, by definition, physical vs things that are only a "mock" of it that only evokes partially the emotional of it, rather than the physical. I thought it would be easier for people to imagine that, since "space" is literally in the name of it and we have the definition of liminal way more commonly mentioned than before.
don’t think someone having a different opinion is the same thing as them not grasping it. A painting of someone with love in their eyes will never be the same thing as someone actually looking at you with love in their eyes, but that isn’t the point of art. Buying that painting was never meant to be a replacement for someone actually looking at you with love in their eyes. When we enjoy art, we’re marveling at the skill of the artist to re-create the thing, and perhaps enjoying feeling the emotion in a secondhand way, even if it is vastly inferior. What’s being pointed out in this video is a flaw in art that is intuitively apparent to some people. Therefore, they may not understand the reason for the video.
@@flawed1 one thing is them having a different opinion, other thing is them actually not understanding what the video meant, people seriously sound like they're thinking he's devaluing art, or agreeing with what he said while thinking they're disagreeing
@lav-kitty This video is explicitly pointing out the inadequacies of liminal space art, even If the motive behind making the video wasn’t to devalue liminal, space art. People may disagree that art’s inadequacy to capture the real thing has anything specifically to do with liminal spaces, and therefore, may feel that liminal space art is being unfairly focused on. The point of the video seems to be that liminal spaces are especially hard to capture with art. I disagree with that point.
@@flawed1 that is entirely NOT the point of the video! I am in no way bashing liminal art, I'm just making a distinction that fabricated liminal works are not liminal spaces because liminal spaces only exist in the physical world through subjective experiences based on emotion.
@Shookey “..only exist in the physical world through subjective experiences based on emotion” This is exactly my point. The above is true of all art….. All of it. This phenomenon is not in anyway, distinct to liminal spaces. All art attempts to convey an emotion which ultimately pails in comparison to the actual emotion
while this video does go over the very foundation of liminal spaces, i'm not exactly sure what the point of this video is? i mean if a created/fabricated liminal space doesn't make you feel anything, then it's because of the specific artwork or artist. i've seen countless fake liminal spaces and some of them really made me feel a deep indescribable feelings. sometimes i'm not even aware of the fact that a space is a 3d render. it simply boils down to specific artist's ability to make a scene look detailed and ordinary, while oddly unusual. The reason why some fake liminal spaces don't work is for the same reason as to why some liminal space photography doesn't work. I agree with the argument that liminal spaces need to capture an atmosphere. but that is not exclusive to reality. It simply doesn't matter whether a liminal space was captured or fabricated. Both fake liminal spaces and liminal space photos can fail under these conditions in the same way.
I'm not sure if you finished the video. It's not about the FEELING, it's about the physical space itself. Any artwork can carry liminal 'feelings' and liminal 'aesthetics' but they themselves do NOT constitute as a liminal space.
@@Shookey Well if that was your point then in that case, liminal photography doesn't constitute as a liminal space. but that's just a plain factual observation, so i don't understand what the purpose of this video is. Are you trying to say that calling liminal art 'a liminal space' is incorrect? (and i did watch the video all the way through)
@@digi2542 Just because something is reminiscent of liminality doesn't mean it's a liminal space. The term is overused and inaccurate and has been watered-down for wide spread appeal. It's a topic I've been researching, had an epiphany about, so I decided to share my observations. We are all learning about this stuff together and I decided to make a video about it. You can capture liminal spaces through photography, if you experience them organically. Simulating them implies an endpoint, therefore it's not liminal.
@@Shookey If that was the point you were trying to get across, i could barely actually make it out from your video. I agree that the term 'liminal space' is not an apropriate term for what i'd rather call "oddly familiar places/ images", but nowadays it's just more convinient to say "liminal spaces". It's just the way internet terminology evolves i guess. Sorry for misinterpreting your video, albeit it could've been more clear.
does this apply to edited liminal images? or do you specifically mean art, like paintings or digital drawings? Because I find the circumstances are more complex as to what images have that liminal feel
edited liminal images, art, paintings and digital drawings can all have "that liminal feel," yet they themselves are not a liminal space. they are only a capture version or recreation of the liminal space. a liminal space can only exist within real world parameters, based on the subjective emotions which arise from being within that space.
@@Shookey the issue with that is that we are living in the modern age. Someone can definitely create a shockingly real looking location in a 3d program, or an impressive edit that looks real. If you can't even tell the difference between a real image and an edited image, why should one be bound to the title of liminal space but not the other? The meaning has drastically changed since 2020 anyways.
@@beterotato6757 the argument of being able to differentiate simulation or reality is not the topic at hand. rather, any fabrication of a liminal space would negate a state of change.
that's because I HATE 🤬🤬 doing voice work for formal essays. i dont get to be loosey-goosey-shookey😿needed to be more seriously, clear and concise for such an information heavy video
Well, this is quite the video in my inbox here. Gonna go on and say, by no means, is what I’m about to say supposed to be taken as a rant of malicious intent, nor an insult to the very people on this channel, NOR an attack on Shookey. However, the idea that something like a liminal space cannot be recreated in art is just not true. Sure, I’m not gonna say that art cannot dull down the space itself, since the space can feel two-dimensional in ways. It feels wrong, though, to say that art cannot influence the way we see the world, or to say that art cannot give space more meaning. Kane Pixels is a great example of how someone can create their own spaces, and recreate the feelings of space, in art. Yes, you can say he isn’t creating physical art, per se, but he is still crafting art in the digital and physical world with his mixture of 3-D environments with live action footage. Infact, his video series “The Rolling Giant” is itself a recreation of a real mall that was torn down in Texas, and yet, he is praised for how realistic it is to the mall that once existed. This is not to say that all art about liminal spaces has that capture of a liminal space. I see pictures everywhere of people slapping houses on a windows vista background, and call it a “Liminal Space.” It’s not, it is a realm of itself. It’s the same as when someone slaps a picture of an eyeball on the screen, puts a few filters, and calls it a new liminal space. No, it’s a different form of art. Still, these “Liminal Spaces” give some a feeling of happiness. The misconception I have seen when it comes to “Liminal Art” is that it’s all one thing. People view Liminal Spaces as just something like the Backrooms. Even in your video, the art you have shown is mostly Backrooms content. The Poolrooms, The End, its all the same place, and it just makes it feel saturated in one single definition, when Liminal Spaces are more interesting with different colors, in different eras, and different cultures. It’s these aspects that make spaces so nostalgic, the feeling that somewhere out there, is an image for you. Liminality isn’t one definition, it’s multiple. A liminal space can be transitional, but it can be nostalgic too. A liminal space can be found outside, or inside, or both. It’s why people got so mad when AlfaOxtrot had his image removed from the reddit forums he had posted on. It wasn’t because his image was more liminal than others, by no means, but because the idea of Liminality was preached to be only one way, which is a transitional space, and yet unenforced. He puts it best himself, “Liminality is any photo that reminds you of how it feels to be a child again, to have no stress. No responsibilities. No worries. A time when just existing was enough. You didn’t have to prove yourself with degrees, scholarships, medals; none of that mattered, you were just happy to be alive, and thats what these photos should remind you of. A time before that all too familiar existential void creeped up into your life.” My point is, that Liminality cannot be defined by one way, just like how movies are not to be interpreted in one way. I may feel strongly against one thing, but that doesn’t make that one thing illegal, or immoral. Liminality is the feeling of nostalgia, the idea of childlike wonder, the idea of existing at a time where you could do whatever you wanted to be happy. If people want to recreate that feeling, and one person says they failed, did they really? As long as it makes you feel happy, make you feel that childhood wonder again, where you could be happy just because you could watch something or play with your toys without a worry in the world, Whos to say they really failed at recreating that feeling? Whos to say art cant recreate the concept of Liminality? Because at the end of the day, even the real images were conceptualized by a blueprint, as architecture, as a form of art. Manufactured. And through nature, they became even more artistically valued. Thank you. This video unlocked something in me I didn’t know I had, and by no means am I going to say your interpretation of what a liminal space is as wrong. That would be idiotic of me to do, however, I will disagree with the inability of creating Liminal Spaces. Creativity is our most human trait, and if not for it, the original images we see from creators in the digital world would just not exist. Even photography is a form of fabricating a space, since you’re actively choosing the perspective, tone, and atmosphere people will view it in. I bet even the original Backrooms image wouldn’t be as atmospheric without that small description from 4-Chan.
i'm sorry I didn't read everything so if something I say is influencer by not reading everything it's my bad but it seems like you're missing the point, shookey didn't say that art can't _recreate_ liminal spaces, they said that art can't CREATE liminal spaces, cause it isn't liminal, nor a space. The only way of having a liminal space happen is irl as an actual place, if i'm not mistaken
@@lav-kitty i will say, this is a fair assessment, however, I did highly focus on Shookeys words of “A liminal space cant be manufactured.” Which, while I cant say is wrong, I cant say is right either. That is my bad for not clearing that up. You are right about art not being a space, nor liminal, but the idea of liminal spaces only existing in real life is a bit false too. If there is an image that you cannot tell the difference between real or fake, whos to say it cant be a liminal space?
@@Dark_Point_Research_Facility I guess it's more about whether it matches the definition or not, if we can't tell if it's real or fake wouldn't really affect it, except for idk, people trying to find the font of the image to know if it is a photograph of a liminal space or a recreation, just like with pretty much any picture that gets popular but with unknown fonts
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Wait, I think there's a big problem here. Once you stop to admire a liminal space, doesn't it immediately become no longer liminal since you've essentially made it your temporary destination? Also, what are the limits of "liminality cannot be created", because every liminal space is one that was created? One more thing, are you saying that intentionally created media literally can't give you the feeling of liminality? Actually I think there's a much bigger question that should be answered: There's two types of "liminal media", naturally occurring liminality and manufactured liminality, what are you trying to say about these two?
There's a lot to break down here and it wouldn't probably work best answered in a follow up video, so I'll definitely make sure to answer these next time
basically, if you are creating a "liminal space," you are actually creating the endpoint of the space. it is not transitional, it is complete. it is intended to be viewed or explored in the same way you would a non-liminal space; like your own home, for example. it is not in a state of change, the way a dead mall or a store which is being taken apart to be closed down would be.
In a sense, the intended liminal space becomes a "tourist trap" (?)
that's... not how art works
Does it really matter though? I mean, aren't we all seeking feeling of liminality, not really caring of it's "realworldness"?
I mean, i understand what is video about, but isn't it kinda like saying that the picture of a cat isn't a cat?
"Ceci n'est pas une pipe“ Basically, everything you said can be applied to all art inspired by all subjects. Even a picture of a liminal space that is framed and lit in the specific way isn’t the same as actually being there. I don’t know if I find these distinctions useful or helpful to people enjoying art. I’m happy when people enjoy liminal spaces in whatever form.
Yeah it doesn't feel very useful or helpful. He does have a point but at the same time, why isn't liminal art liminal?
I didn't say liminal art isn't liminal, I'm saying liminal art is not a liminal space, because liminal spaces can only exist within reality
@Shookey…. And a picture of a pizza isn’t a pizza because you can’t eat it. From a place of being purely constructive,, I think people are struggling to understand just why you’re pointing this out about liminal space art.
I always love listening to videos like these when I draw. It's the perfect background noise, and it's always really interesting! :)
That's so nice of you tysm 😊 I'll definitely keep that in mind when I make my next video 😁
@Shookey Oh my goodness, one of my most liked RUclipsrs replied to me! So cool!! :DD
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Hehe, no problem, friend!! I think your videos are very interesting to watch! You don't have to take me into consideration!! I'd watch anything you make! I appreciate your compliments, though 😁😁
That's why I always believed Backrooms, Dreamcore and Weirdcore are sub-genres.
I've honestly heard some people saying these aesthetics are the same as Liminal Spaces.
Also- as a Liminal Space photographer who sometimes makes Minecraft versions or edits of the real spaces I take when I'm bored....I've noticed a significant vibe change between the real and the artificial photos I have. The edits or remakes just don't hit as hard as my own photos.
Thanks for the insight
I often use the word liminal to describe things that are in a state of "inbetween-ess" while still not really being in the same plane as the things it is "inbetween". Like something in the middle of past and future, but without being the present, in this reality at least. I use it for anything tho, not only involving time.
I know this isn't exactly the definition of liminal, but I really like using it to describe things that people don't often understand, and that I dont really have a better word for, like what I use it for the most, explaining things in my orientations and gender identities, which tends to be very complex to other people.
100% agree, liminal spaces are about being there or being square
Run while you still can
it's quite funny seeing how a lot of people missed/misinterpreted the main point of the video, when I grasped it so easily.
I think people specially don't understand the difference between things that are, by definition, physical vs things that are only a "mock" of it that only evokes partially the emotional of it, rather than the physical.
I thought it would be easier for people to imagine that, since "space" is literally in the name of it and we have the definition of liminal way more commonly mentioned than before.
don’t think someone having a different opinion is the same thing as them not grasping it. A painting of someone with love in their eyes will never be the same thing as someone actually looking at you with love in their eyes, but that isn’t the point of art. Buying that painting was never meant to be a replacement for someone actually looking at you with love in their eyes. When we enjoy art, we’re marveling at the skill of the artist to re-create the thing, and perhaps enjoying feeling the emotion in a secondhand way, even if it is vastly inferior. What’s being pointed out in this video is a flaw in art that is intuitively apparent to some people. Therefore, they may not understand the reason for the video.
@@flawed1 one thing is them having a different opinion, other thing is them actually not understanding what the video meant, people seriously sound like they're thinking he's devaluing art, or agreeing with what he said while thinking they're disagreeing
@lav-kitty This video is explicitly pointing out the inadequacies of liminal space art, even If the motive behind making the video wasn’t to devalue liminal, space art. People may disagree that art’s inadequacy to capture the real thing has anything specifically to do with liminal spaces, and therefore, may feel that liminal space art is being unfairly focused on. The point of the video seems to be that liminal spaces are especially hard to capture with art. I disagree with that point.
@@flawed1 that is entirely NOT the point of the video! I am in no way bashing liminal art, I'm just making a distinction that fabricated liminal works are not liminal spaces because liminal spaces only exist in the physical world through subjective experiences based on emotion.
@Shookey “..only exist in the physical world through subjective experiences based on emotion” This is exactly my point. The above is true of all art….. All of it. This phenomenon is not in anyway, distinct to liminal spaces. All art attempts to convey an emotion which ultimately pails in comparison to the actual emotion
honestly? i 100% disagree
care to explain your reasoning? I would love to open a discussion.
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@@thousandsofclowns he does not care to explain his reasoning!
@@Shookeyliminal one sided argument
Nice new liminal space video that shookey just talks about it again. A relaxing favorite.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the visit 🙂
while this video does go over the very foundation of liminal spaces, i'm not exactly sure what the point of this video is? i mean if a created/fabricated liminal space doesn't make you feel anything, then it's because of the specific artwork or artist. i've seen countless fake liminal spaces and some of them really made me feel a deep indescribable feelings. sometimes i'm not even aware of the fact that a space is a 3d render. it simply boils down to specific artist's ability to make a scene look detailed and ordinary, while oddly unusual. The reason why some fake liminal spaces don't work is for the same reason as to why some liminal space photography doesn't work. I agree with the argument that liminal spaces need to capture an atmosphere. but that is not exclusive to reality.
It simply doesn't matter whether a liminal space was captured or fabricated. Both fake liminal spaces and liminal space photos can fail under these conditions in the same way.
I'm not sure if you finished the video. It's not about the FEELING, it's about the physical space itself. Any artwork can carry liminal 'feelings' and liminal 'aesthetics' but they themselves do NOT constitute as a liminal space.
@@Shookey Well if that was your point then in that case, liminal photography doesn't constitute as a liminal space. but that's just a plain factual observation, so i don't understand what the purpose of this video is. Are you trying to say that calling liminal art 'a liminal space' is incorrect? (and i did watch the video all the way through)
@@digi2542 Just because something is reminiscent of liminality doesn't mean it's a liminal space. The term is overused and inaccurate and has been watered-down for wide spread appeal. It's a topic I've been researching, had an epiphany about, so I decided to share my observations. We are all learning about this stuff together and I decided to make a video about it. You can capture liminal spaces through photography, if you experience them organically. Simulating them implies an endpoint, therefore it's not liminal.
@@Shookey If that was the point you were trying to get across, i could barely actually make it out from your video. I agree that the term 'liminal space' is not an apropriate term for what i'd rather call "oddly familiar places/ images", but nowadays it's just more convinient to say "liminal spaces". It's just the way internet terminology evolves i guess.
Sorry for misinterpreting your video, albeit it could've been more clear.
does this apply to edited liminal images? or do you specifically mean art, like paintings or digital drawings?
Because I find the circumstances are more complex as to what images have that liminal feel
edited liminal images, art, paintings and digital drawings can all have "that liminal feel," yet they themselves are not a liminal space. they are only a capture version or recreation of the liminal space. a liminal space can only exist within real world parameters, based on the subjective emotions which arise from being within that space.
@@Shookey the issue with that is that we are living in the modern age. Someone can definitely create a shockingly real looking location in a 3d program, or an impressive edit that looks real. If you can't even tell the difference between a real image and an edited image, why should one be bound to the title of liminal space but not the other? The meaning has drastically changed since 2020 anyways.
@@beterotato6757 the argument of being able to differentiate simulation or reality is not the topic at hand. rather, any fabrication of a liminal space would negate a state of change.
Yay, new epic upload
(Albeit, it does sound like it was written and voiced by AI, no offense)
Nice background video though
that's because I HATE 🤬🤬 doing voice work for formal essays. i dont get to be loosey-goosey-shookey😿needed to be more seriously, clear and concise for such an information heavy video
Well, this is quite the video in my inbox here.
Gonna go on and say, by no means, is what I’m about to say supposed to be taken as a rant of malicious intent, nor an insult to the very people on this channel, NOR an attack on Shookey. However, the idea that something like a liminal space cannot be recreated in art is just not true. Sure, I’m not gonna say that art cannot dull down the space itself, since the space can feel two-dimensional in ways. It feels wrong, though, to say that art cannot influence the way we see the world, or to say that art cannot give space more meaning.
Kane Pixels is a great example of how someone can create their own spaces, and recreate the feelings of space, in art. Yes, you can say he isn’t creating physical art, per se, but he is still crafting art in the digital and physical world with his mixture of 3-D environments with live action footage. Infact, his video series “The Rolling Giant” is itself a recreation of a real mall that was torn down in Texas, and yet, he is praised for how realistic it is to the mall that once existed.
This is not to say that all art about liminal spaces has that capture of a liminal space. I see pictures everywhere of people slapping houses on a windows vista background, and call it a “Liminal Space.” It’s not, it is a realm of itself. It’s the same as when someone slaps a picture of an eyeball on the screen, puts a few filters, and calls it a new liminal space. No, it’s a different form of art. Still, these “Liminal Spaces” give some a feeling of happiness. The misconception I have seen when it comes to “Liminal Art” is that it’s all one thing. People view Liminal Spaces as just something like the Backrooms. Even in your video, the art you have shown is mostly Backrooms content. The Poolrooms, The End, its all the same place, and it just makes it feel saturated in one single definition, when Liminal Spaces are more interesting with different colors, in different eras, and different cultures. It’s these aspects that make spaces so nostalgic, the feeling that somewhere out there, is an image for you. Liminality isn’t one definition, it’s multiple. A liminal space can be transitional, but it can be nostalgic too. A liminal space can be found outside, or inside, or both.
It’s why people got so mad when AlfaOxtrot had his image removed from the reddit forums he had posted on. It wasn’t because his image was more liminal than others, by no means, but because the idea of Liminality was preached to be only one way, which is a transitional space, and yet unenforced. He puts it best himself, “Liminality is any photo that reminds you of how it feels to be a child again, to have no stress. No responsibilities. No worries. A time when just existing was enough. You didn’t have to prove yourself with degrees, scholarships, medals; none of that mattered, you were just happy to be alive, and thats what these photos should remind you of. A time before that all too familiar existential void creeped up into your life.”
My point is, that Liminality cannot be defined by one way, just like how movies are not to be interpreted in one way. I may feel strongly against one thing, but that doesn’t make that one thing illegal, or immoral. Liminality is the feeling of nostalgia, the idea of childlike wonder, the idea of existing at a time where you could do whatever you wanted to be happy. If people want to recreate that feeling, and one person says they failed, did they really? As long as it makes you feel happy, make you feel that childhood wonder again, where you could be happy just because you could watch something or play with your toys without a worry in the world,
Whos to say they really failed at recreating that feeling?
Whos to say art cant recreate the concept of Liminality?
Because at the end of the day, even the real images were conceptualized by a blueprint, as architecture, as a form of art.
Manufactured.
And through nature, they became even more artistically valued.
Thank you.
This video unlocked something in me I didn’t know I had, and by no means am I going to say your interpretation of what a liminal space is as wrong. That would be idiotic of me to do, however, I will disagree with the inability of creating Liminal Spaces. Creativity is our most human trait, and if not for it, the original images we see from creators in the digital world would just not exist. Even photography is a form of fabricating a space, since you’re actively choosing the perspective, tone, and atmosphere people will view it in.
I bet even the original Backrooms image wouldn’t be as atmospheric without that small description from 4-Chan.
i'm sorry I didn't read everything so if something I say is influencer by not reading everything it's my bad
but it seems like you're missing the point, shookey didn't say that art can't _recreate_ liminal spaces, they said that art can't CREATE liminal spaces, cause it isn't liminal, nor a space. The only way of having a liminal space happen is irl as an actual place, if i'm not mistaken
@@lav-kitty i will say, this is a fair assessment, however, I did highly focus on Shookeys words of “A liminal space cant be manufactured.” Which, while I cant say is wrong, I cant say is right either.
That is my bad for not clearing that up. You are right about art not being a space, nor liminal, but the idea of liminal spaces only existing in real life is a bit false too. If there is an image that you cannot tell the difference between real or fake, whos to say it cant be a liminal space?
@@Dark_Point_Research_Facility I guess it's more about whether it matches the definition or not, if we can't tell if it's real or fake wouldn't really affect it, except for idk, people trying to find the font of the image to know if it is a photograph of a liminal space or a recreation, just like with pretty much any picture that gets popular but with unknown fonts
I have a question, are you gonna make an edge video about the resort? Sorry for bothering you about it so much.
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Sorry lol, I was very excited
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This is so real chat
Now this looks like a job for me
I am not sure what do you mean. All art is based on reality to some degree.
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does that mean the end of liminal livestreams /j
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Nice video
Thank you for liking the video
Wait, I think there's a big problem here. Once you stop to admire a liminal space, doesn't it immediately become no longer liminal since you've essentially made it your temporary destination?
Also, what are the limits of "liminality cannot be created", because every liminal space is one that was created?
One more thing, are you saying that intentionally created media literally can't give you the feeling of liminality?
Actually I think there's a much bigger question that should be answered:
There's two types of "liminal media", naturally occurring liminality and manufactured liminality, what are you trying to say about these two?
There's a lot to break down here and it wouldn't probably work best answered in a follow up video, so I'll definitely make sure to answer these next time
@@Shookey You meant would, right? I'd love another video that goes further into this
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gonna be real with you chief, you're not making a whole lotta sense here.
Care to be specific with what I'm saying that doesn't make sense to you?
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