Prince ATS Tour 100P, 100 290 and 95 Review
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2022
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Great review, very informative.
I am quite tempted to pull the trigger on the 100p or the 100 290g, as I am on the market for my first lower-than-330-SW racquet, and these 2 frames seem to fit the specs quite nicely while maintaining good stability.
Excellent racket review, you touched on specific information on each one.
I appreciate that!
Splendid review of the new Prince Tour line !
Thanks Rui!
Really hate the new design of this line. The previous black and green design looked so much better!
This one looks like a female tennis shoe.
As part of a larger racket test I bought a lightly used 100P 2022 on a whim, i thought i prefered more open/spinny string patterns but this thing rocks! I'm a 3.5(ish) club player with a ohbh. Strung it with Volkl V-square 1.10mm @46lbs. It's plush with a nice blend of power/control/spin. I'm not a fan of the colour/design but it plays so nicely I'm willing to live with it. I just wish Prince would improve grommet availability in the UK/Europe.
I love how the 100P has the 18x20 pattern, almost like an older Radical OS but with a slightly smaller head size, thin beam still.
Yeah, it's a good one
Great video thx! If I'm a high intermediate 3.5 coming out of a Head Instinct power 110, do you think the ATS Textreme Tour 100 290 would be a good one for me to demo? & if so, how does it compare to wilson clash & Head Boom or speed? Thx
Thanks for advice regarding intermediate players and appropriate sticks. I had a 100 (310) but sent it back bc I doubted I could handle the weight, coming from 305’s. I’ve room to improve before I can competently handle those.
dont you think the 305 is more advanced since 18x20 ?
@@akbarberlian My technique has some evolving to do before trying a 305 with an 18*20 string pattern. If I find all my balls land long in spite of changes in technique, I’d consider an 18*20 pattern. Five grams of extra weight is probably less an issue if the balance is Head light to the same or greater degree - I might take notice of swing weights.
I am finding that the mental approach to technique is just as important as the technique itself. The Feel Tennis Instruction channel has the best lessons for that.
Cheers.
Loving the new 95!
Have been using price since the graphite when I was a teen. I am still a 5.0/strong 4.5. Went from the older textreme 100. Now I have
the new ATS 95 just wondering if I should have gotten the 98.
Thank you for all of the great reviews. I noticed you were really positive about the 2015 TT 95. How did the new one specifically compare to that one?
very similar, not a change worthy
Hi Jonas, I always enjoy your great articles and youtube videos.
Can you please compare Prince ATS Textreme 100P with Head Gravity tour (2019-2021). The paper specs are quite similar. I am looking at comfort (on arm and elbow), spin and (ease access of) power (as I have compact to medium swing path) of the rackets. Currently I am using Prince Phantom Pro 100 (16x18) and feel lack of power and would like to try 18x20 racket. Thanks in advance.
The 100p looks like a head speed pro, but with a little lower swing weight.
As 95, the best one still is the Dunlop cx200 tour which comes in 16x19 and 18x20. Yes the Dunlop needs some lead to beef up the swing weight, but that's what advanced players want, a good platform racket for customization.
I have also had the vcore 95 (both last version as well as the one before that) and they just feel too clunky and matched to the exact spec that i like, the Yonex vc95 feels slower and it's worse on serve (regarding power).
Which do you think Is Better for One handed backhand, this tour like or the Phantom X line? Thanks
Jonas, is this new ATS 100p Tour worth the upgrade from the 2019 version? I have a chance to buy the 2019 version at a good price, but will go for the new one if the upgrade is worth it IYO!
No drag with the 98 with the one hander? I currently play the Yonex Vcore pro 97 310 but was thinking about going to a 95 sq. In frame…
So who's more powerful and spinny? The 310 or the Speed MP/Pro?
Thank you for the nice review :)
Have you felt any kind of vibration from 100p model? I am interested in 100p model and become curious about the vibration which Kristen mentioned from TW review.
I’m stuck between the 98 and the 100/310….please tell me why you prefer the 98….thanks!
How does Ats tour 98 compared to dunlop sx300 tour? I am currently using sx300 tour, i like the power and spin it provide, but sometimes it quite harsh on my arm and shoulder.
Great review as always.
It’s definitely has a softer feel (I used to play with the SX 300). Spin and power are there, but the ball pocketing gives it more control. It does feel a little less whippy but not overly so. I’d definitely demo one.
one thing about the 100p is that it's one of the few 100 sq inch racquets with a 18 x 20 pattern
Wow very low RA rating, I grew up using Prince racquets as a kid, these specs look really nice for all three, good looking racquets too! Nice review Jonas (thumbs ups)
Thanks CH! They're nice sticks
Just demoed new 95. Its nice but as VC95 user, Yonex has it beat on all categories. Noticeably its uncomfortable on off center hits, rather dead feeling overall. For me Prince are usually good but never are "great" rackets.
How is the this tour 95 or 98 vs Wilson blade v7?
how does it compare to the 95 square inch prestige tour (formally pro)? intereste how it compares since its also a 95 square inch racket with 22 mm beam Do you feel it less forgiving than the vcore or prince ATS?
The Prince is easier to use than the Prestige Tour. It has a lower swing weight and a more forgiving sweet spot.
How would you compare the ATS Tour 98 to the Head Radical MP?
The Tour 98 offers a bit more spin and explosiveness in my opinion, while the Radical feels stiffer and more controlled in the string bed.
3:32 - OK JONAS
I have the 98, and I cannot dial that frame in yet. My forehand sprays like crazy/has a very high launch angle and my backhand is way more flat than it has ever been. Possible that I’ve been trying too many racquets lately and have lost a feel for my strokes, but I’ve not really had the issue outside of this frame.
maybe try phantom 100p
Looks like the SW is too high for you ( maybe an overspec frame.. )
@@Kliffot could be. Maybe I’ll go have it tested. Usually up to mid 330’s is fine though. Did try a prestige tour recently that came in at 352, and felt like I was swinging a tree branch.
@@EveryTimeIDavid Sometimes it's not the swingweight but the twistweight. Sometimes the frame is just too depolarized and has a cumbersome feel despite a manageable SW on the paper. An easy way to figure it out eitherway is to hold the raquet few millimeter down on the handle and add weight ( modeling paste for exemple ) at different location on the beam to see how it respond.
Me too, I wonder if it needs correct string setup.
I was pretty hyped about these rackets since I heard they had twaron I thought maybe they'd get close to the pt280/630 but it seems they went in a different direction. Kind of a bummer
They're nice racquets. I don't think Twaron makes a huge deal, but the feel of these is good. They're more modern frames than the old PTs tho.
Please explain how Price says in business. They don' have any one racquet line that sells consistently. They are always fully developing new racquet ideas that only fit small niche markets and could not possibly be big sellers. Their strings may be OK, but they are poorly named and poorly marketed, I mean, who uses them? They only have sales deals through Tennis Warehouse and a couple of big box stores. Are Prince sales huge in Europe, or Asia, or Australia, or somewhere I'm not aware of? Where are their profits made? I guess I could ask the same for Volkl and ProKennex. Are there stats available on these companies annual sales and profits? Just to be clear, I like Prince racquets and I do see a good number of rec players using them, but these are usually much older models that were picked up second hand (including mine). I've never seen anyone with a new Prince racquet, although I know it happens. I was just wondering.
I think they make good products, but they're more succesful outside Europe. I think Asia is by far the largest market. I don't know their sales data though.
@@Tennisnerd I like Prince too. I don't see why more pro players don't use them. It just seems lame their model strategy is all over the place and this doesn't help their brand. Maybe more of a Babolat or even Tecnifibre racquet line strategy would help, but hey, Head has a whole lot of lines too and they are very successful, with some question marks, too, like who uses Instinct, right?
I've wondered about this as well. They seem to cater to a market that doesn't exist. I bought two 93p's new and will never part with them, but their racquets simply are too oddball to suit the average club player. Power to them though, nobody else is making thin beam racquets like they do. I think where they fail is in providing a consistent string bed. Sometimes I wonder if they play tested their product before release. Almost feels like the 93P is an accidental masterpiece.
I think they're just trying to plug up niches that aren't filled by the big players. Hence why they have a lot of rare string patterns and funky designs. I like their racquet. I own two prince pahntom 100s. I think their strategy is throw stuff at the wall until something sticks. TW bought them and sell them exclusively in the U.S. I'm sure TW got a great deal on buying a famous brand. Racquets are pretty high margin, you don't need to sell a ton of them to stay in business, especially for a company like TW that can plug up the niches.
Seems like they're pretty popular in Japan. Japan gets certain unique models and even some of them come out there before they do in the US.
I'm still not convince the 290 is better than my twist x tour 100
Yeah, I like the Twistpower more myself.
No stream!
Stream?
@@Tennisnerd I meant when you first uploaded the video i got a message saying “no stream”, but then it worked after 5min. Thank you
yeah, first
Thanks for being eager
You constantly talking that you prefer "like a pro" controlo oriented frames bla bla bla, but obviously your technique and footwork is not very strong for that type of racket. Strong opponent will destroy you with your 95inch racket without a doubt. Upload please at least one of your match with strong player where you play with 95 inch racket.
I think I will be destroyed by any player much stronger than me no matter what racquet I use. I still tend to play more consistently with a 95. I never said I was a great tennis player.
Congratulations on saying something completely unnecessary
I guess you’re really good and don’t you know it. Deluded?