Excellent synopsis... as a shameless fan-boi I honestly like both gens... the V8 in our GX is completely worthless offroad when youre going along at 3mph 😆... but I understand the desire for power. As you stated... with the V6 4runner you are guaranteed a million mile 4runner... that's a serious benefit....
Thank you for weighing in. Watching your channel grow with your GX insight helped me seed some ideas for my 4runner input. Thank you. Just got a chance to see the 6th gen in person and it no doubt got me a little geeked.
Factor in all of the problems Toyota is having with the new Tundras. Who’s to say there aren’t going to be a ton of issues with the new 4runners. Buyer beware for sure.
My 2024 4R TRD Pro... 4.0L V6 mated to a 5 Speed Automatic... The Ultimate In "Go Anywhere" RELIABILITY...! Elon Musk Has Stated that HIS DAILY will be a Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro on MARS!!! Wow! Red Dust on your 4Runner... (No Surface Water H2O on the Red Planet) NOT A TESLA Cyber Rust Truck! Significant Differences between 5th Gen 2024 4R TRD Pro vs. 6th Gen 2025 4R TRD Pro: 20" front light bar Yellow Square, Not Round, Rigid Fog Lights Huge dash mounted Colour TV to watch YT "Wheel2LiveOutdoors... the Best!!!" Power Adjustable Steer Wheel Column... Nice! 2 drivers' seat position memory... Much Better Nice for Wifey! Portable JBL Dash Mount Hand Held Speaker... Okay But, Easier to Forget or Misplace and Lose!!! Digital Camera View Projection Rear View Mirror... No More... "Could You Move Your Head Please?" I Can't See... Power Lift Rear Tailgate Door with iconic power rear window! Put Away the Pitch Forks Men, StandDown... No Rioting Please...! Toyota Listened with Both Ears! THEY CONTINUED THE LEGACY! BEST New Feature... OMG...!!! A "LOCKING GAS CAP EXTERIOR DOOR...!!!" We had to WAIT 40 YEARS, Since 1984 for a Freaking LOCKING EXTERIOR GAS CAP DOOR...!!! HAIL MARY! FULL OF GRACE! 2.4L Gas 4CYLINDER 'SpinWhining...' TURBO iForceMax with Accessory Electric Lawn Mower Engine sandwiched between an 8 speed automatic transmission... Producing 326hp/465ft/lb torque...! Impressive Numbers...! EXCEPT... NO WATER CROSSINGS ALLOWED, VOIDS TOYOTA WARRANTY...! MAJOR DESIGN ERROR... Toyota... If You Designed A "POWER LIFT TAILGATE..." WHY IS THERE ONLY A 2 POSITION, PROP ROD TO HOLD UP THE HOOD AND NOT HOOD STRUTS...??? MY 5TH GEN 4Runner TRD Pro HAS Factory Hydrolic Hood Struts!!! You're Going to MSRP the 4R TRD Pro this Fall '24 at US$60-65,000 NOT Including Dealer RipOffs of US$10-20,000 MarkUps... US$80,000+Out the Door and I HAVE to Use a PropRod for the Hood...??!!! Come On Toyota! HEY Moritzu/Brown Collaboration,(sounds like a rock band!) If TNGA-F Platforms are that Modular... On The Year3 4Runner ReFresh... Can You SHOE HORN into that 2 POSITION PROP ROD Engine Bay... The Lexus GX 550 Overland Twin Turbo V6...??? Jus' Say'in... I'D Buy That NOW... Otherwise, I kinda like the New 6th Gen Creature Comforts... but Not the 2 position Prop Rod Hood Support over that 2.4L 4Cylinder Turbo iForceMax Hybrid that you cain't get wet...! Gentlemen... Get'em while you can 5th Gen 4Runner... TRD Pro WILL HOLD AND MAINTAIN BETTER RESALE VALUE... HOW MUCH TO REPLACE THE BATTERY ON A 6TH GRN 4RUNNER iForce Max Hybred Engine??? IS IT LIKE THE PRIUS...$$$??? Proud Owner of a 2024 5th Gen 4R TRD Pro! 125 days old... and I've been Already Been Superceded (Not Really! By the 6th Gen) Long Live The NA V6...! Long Live The 5th Gen... ABC Gung Fu Cowboy 🇺🇲 San Francisco Chinatown
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@@phillyfathead Did you get the 4x4? I checked the price difference between the TRD Off Road premium and SR5 4x4 premium and it is about $2000. How much did you get yours for? Thanks
Enjoyed your video and opinions. The new 6th Gen is very cool and sure, I’d want one. Probably a Trailhunter. But…. I so want a 4Runner to start going on overlanding trips and camping. But I know that new 6th gen is just going to be too much money to start. So, I’m planning on looking for a 22’ or newer TRD ORP (Lunar Rock if I could). Now I just need the prices of the used 4Runners to tank! 😂. Looking to join the community someday, hopefully this fall. Go Hogs! (My daughter is a Masters Student there). Take care. -Chris🏔️🚙
Your reasoning is on point. It’s such a great platform for Overlanding. Lunar rock is one of my favorite colors. Go hogs go and thank you for the kind words.
Don't wait for big price drops. It is not likely. Just look at the demand for the previous gen Tundra. Prices of clean used trucks went up, not down, while new ones languish on lots. Go buy what you want soon and you will be glad you did.
I just bought a 2024(last v6). So glad I did. This thing is AMAZING! Even the stock suspension is top quality and goes over bumps like it's butter. Hope I don't break these shocks. *knock on wood* I get head-turns all around. I mean some are probably looking at oncoming cars to cross the street,mine just happens to be one of those oncoming cars; tree huggers are just wondering why an idiot would pay for a gas guzzler;others are probably thinking that is a fking ugly 4x4, goodness; but in my head everyone is thinking, "damn look at that sweet ride." All joking aside I love this 4 Runner. "You can have my 4 Runner when you pry it from my cold, dead foot."
Also Toyota changed engines mainly for emissions. Toyota also stated having regrets since they put so much development in perfecting their V6 and V8 engines.
I just bought a 2024 TRD Off Road Premium 2 weeks ago. I bought it for all the reasons you listed but mostly because of the tried and true, naturally aspirated V6. I'm diggin it and so far have added some pretty cool, essential bolt-ons....rock solders, light bars, ditch lights, tinted windows, and a killer JL Audio stereo system with wireless Apple Car Play. Fisher-Price makes better stereos than Toyota! That was the first thing to go! :) I might go with the Old Man Emu BP51 and 33" Mikey Thompson Baja Boss tires, down the road once I wear out the stock tires. This is my 6th Toyota in 30 years of driving but my first 4Runner....I love it!
Got a 2024 4WD SR5 Premium 2 weeks ago. I don’t hate the 6th Gen but I’ve been in the market for a 4Runner since 2022. Was finally able to pull the trigger and couldn’t be happier. Wanted the ORP but I had to be honest with myself. I’m never gonna go off roading. At the most just road trips to Joshua tree.
5G is nice but the price for a 2010 vehicle coupled with the concerning crash test rating is a BIG no for me. I'd try my luck with the 6G, the powertrain I'm not concerned about, ultimately it's a Toyota and they're not cut from the same cloth as the other American off-road vehicle manufacturers.
I just want to see some long term hard miles in that hybrid system before I commit. Especially for the price. The 5th gen is as reliable as it gets and I may never let mine go. Thanks for the comment.
Bought a 2024 Trd orp in underground with kdss in January. We are replacing our 2008 land cruiser as a daily, but keeping it as well. We have been absolutely loving it. No regrets on not waiting for the 6th gen.
man u put a pulling cam in that V6 giving it some more lower end torque and HP to get on the freeway better maybe put a little higher compression piston in it and man it's got plenty of power ,,, and u don't need to drive a 4runner 120 down the road like they will run anyways. I know turbos break on diesel trucks and the cost to replace, and battery's cost a bunch too for a EV especially in 10 years when prices are even more higher. where a rebuild kit for the V6 is 200-800 bucks with new pistons and cam in it .... U can rebuild a 2010-2020 with engine , transmission , transfer case and front and rear ends for 4 grand off amazon , then some trd seat upgrades and bam its a new 4runner. the 6th gen has the 3.0 safety sense and a little bigger with EV woooo. 5th gen is going to be hard to beat... they might be even more sought after due to smaller size & lower cost for maintenance & rebuilding in off road communities.
I think the 6th Gen sits lower. I’ll be keeping my 5th Gen. They will probably go up in value since it has the bulletproof 4.0 and 5 speed auto. I get 23 mpg in mixed driving. The 6th Gen will probably get 25 mpg with the same driving.
I just saw the 6th gen in person and although the outside is bigger the interior room somehow looks smaller. I also think ground clearance as you mentioned looks less than the 5th gen. I noticed they had to run 33" tires and go with a larger lift to achieve a ride height similar to the 5th gen TRD PRo.
i agree 100% im sorry but the v6 is solid this turbo charged crap is gonna come with issues. we wink wink already seing issue on the tacoma. lots of broken parts.
Got a 2024 5th gen. About a month ago. My first mod was the widdle wadder and not to keep bragging, but we hit the grocery store and school pick up line on the daily! 💪
Bought a new 2020 4R TRD Pro. Already put 137K miles on it...zero problems. Very happy with it. Don't plan on ever getting rid of it. (But...I can't wait to see the 7th Gen, 2 cylinder, twin-turbo. The gas mileage is gonna be GREAT!]
Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦 ! I purchased the 5th generation 4Runner in 2023 anticipation of the 6th generation soon to be released in the not distant future . I agree with you that the 5th generation will certainly be a better vehicle for the long term of ownership . 😊
Bought 23 4runner last year thinking it was the last year of production. I waited about 3 months until delivery. Some days i would even forget i had deposit on it lol anyways with 6th gen announced. I wouldn’t trade it in for one.
@@Wheel2LiveOffRoad So far so good. No issues. Economy isn’t that great. Not that it was to begin with. But with the SC now its premium. Yay. It’s not Mad Max crazy, but I can definitely notice the difference.
Everyone would be happy, happy, happy if the 6th gen 4runner had a 4 cylinder with a 3 speed manual putting out 100 ft lbs of torque, pushing all 5000 pounds of vehicle. Throw in 13 inch knobby tires and you've got a hit!
Thank you very much for your opinion and time. Agree with you pretty much on everything. What would you choose between 4Runner and Bronco if you can only have ONE?
I'll just say right now from a mechanics perspective the sixth gen will suck and the customers are going to feel it in probably about 10 to 12 years or sooner if they don't keep up with maintenance when they blow up turbos and switch out battery packs its like a $12,000+ alone. Recommendation should you buy the 6th Gen is buy the extended warranty as long as you own it.
No joke on that extended warranty. Folks are going to have a stroke when that battery pack decides to go south. Well for that matter turbos aren't cheap either.
Couldn’t agree more! Despite Toyota’s reliability, no way a turbo/hybrid engine can compete with the dependability of the 5th gen V6. I own a 22 TRD ORP X series. Most solid well built vehicle I have ever had. I love this truck and know it will look great years from now.
Got a 24 ORP in Solar Octane at the beginning of February, traded in my 20 OR Tacoma. With less 250 miles on it I put some Method 705 wheels with Mickey Thompson Baja Boss tires, stock size for now , had some Morimoto fogs that I took off the Tacoma that I put on.
I would not trade my fully built 4th gen with v8 for 5th or 6th gen. I imagine if I got a 6 gen with icon suspension and everything else I have done I would be approaching 90 thousand dollars. I would trade my ride for a fully built new one. The 5th would need to have lower gears to handle larger tires. I am sure the 6 gen will be more capable on running large tire’s than my v8.
My v6 does well with 35's but I'm pushing its limits on stock gears. 4th gen built rigs with v8's are freaking awesome. Don't blame you on not trading.
I purchased a new 23 GX460 before they were sold out 💙 the V8. I invested 69 thousand in engine reliability, not looks, high tech and a 4cylinder turbo. Why would you invest more money in a vehicle that’s unproven.
Locally we had people waiting to buy the last of the GX's at our Lexus dealer. Good score for you. Toyota invested so much into those V8's and V6's, proven reliability.
I've commented on your vids before, and you are spot on with this breakdown. I paid a horrific price for mine off the lot in 2022. (Chip shortage, and "market adjustments"). I wanted white, dealer said white is 9 months out. I waived color choice and ended up with the goofy green TRD Pro. (Yes, buying a Pro is stupid, I know. The "Fox" shocks with piggyback resi's arent even made by Fox, they are garbage. The fronts completely failed at 22k miles. Lesson learned. I went Dobinsons MRR on all 4 corners, 3" lift, and it seems to be what I would call a perfect mesh. I'm 52, this vehicle will live longer than I will, and I'd NEVER even think about the 6th gen. It's gonna take YEARS for true 4runner guys to even BEGIN to trust the motor in the 6th gen. ...we know what we have... Why be a guinea pig, buy a 5th gen. Period.
Yes those Dobinson's MRR put the factory suspension to shame. Yeah, no way at this point I'm cutting loose of my 5th gen. Thanks for weighing in on this issue.
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Slow, gas guzzler, 5 speed transmission, time to move on.
I wish a trail hunter like trim was out when I bought my 22. Would have saved me a lot of time modding. As much as I like the new 4runner, I'd like to keep my 5th gen for at least another 10 years. Perfect vehicle for my needs
The 5th gen is the best. I wish I could afford one. It looks better, it more capable and ofc more reliable. It's been here for like 15 years and still looks good and sought after. You don't even lose that much money with higher mileage for it either. I saw a 2011 with like 200k miles that's selling for 15k. Like it's worth it. Sure you could say it's sluggish or gas guzzler, but you don't buy a heavy car with a 4.0 v6 without considering the gas mileage. And if you do care about gas mileage for a huge car. Get a crossover or the new hybrids.
Thanks for weighing in. Good points and with the problems the tundra hybrids have had I think the 4.0 might go down as the last of the indestructible Toyota engines.
I'm not sure where you are located but that sounds like a solid price. Have you had any luck with the sale? Cavalry Blue is one of the best special colors.
@@Wheel2LiveOffRoad hey bud…I didn’t sell it to be honest I didn’t put it on any sites either…It only has 32.000 miles on it I made mistake up above I meant miles….Im located in PA…this 4runner is a excellent condition only reason selling need bigger suv cause of more kids
im coming from a 4th gen with the 4.7 and its 2wd and my issue is the lack of power with the 5th gen. the power of the new 4 cylinder turbo has my attention. im thinking 5th gen for a few years and wait and see how the new tacoma and 4runner fare with the new power plant. thanks for the video
Agree the extra power would be nice but I want to see how well this hybrid system fares before I move on from the most the reliable thing I have ever owned.
I could use some real world 4runner advice. My fam is considering nabbing one of these final 5th gens. Narrowed it down to the Offroad Premium, Offroad Premium with KDSS, or the TRDPro. Resale value is meaningful, though we do keep vehicles for the long term. Mostly on-road and light trail performance prioritized. No major offroading or modification intended at this time (perhaps mods in future), but we like to have serious get-out-of-a-jam capability just in case. How would you rate these three options?
If planning to suspension lift someday then I would stay away from KDSS. Just my .02 cents. I think some have had issues with lifting KDSS equipped trucks. If you are going for stock no mods and retaining the most value in time I would look the Pro in the special color. I have seen the new Terrra color in person and its one of my favorite special colors. The Pro in stock form just rides amazingly well with the Fox Shocks. However, if I were planning to build in the future I would just save the upfront money and build out a TRD Offroad Prem w/o KDSS. More options on colors as well.
I bought a CPO 2023 ORP in Lunar Rock in February. Best decision ever. I was looking for a while and traveled 4 hours to a dealer that had exactly what I wanted. (I really wanted Lunar Rock ORP & a sunroof 😎). First thing I bought was some thick cargo liners for the cargo area and back of the rear seats. If you are on the fence….test drive one. The build quality is excellent.
A good valid point of view. Admittedly I’m a little biased, having owned four different gens, including the latest. Personally, if they had combined the anytime 4wd system I had on my ‘08 sport, with some 5th gen changes, I’d be in heaven. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
I couldn’t imagine a more riskier move than not choosing a time tested 5th generation 4Runner (which goes beyond just being time tested, it’s like the Heavyweight Champion of long term reliability)…to instead going with a first year rollout of a complete redesign. Well, I guess it doesn’t matter for people who only do a few years in a vehicle, then switch. However, even for those people, I hear that there’s an annoying space eating bulge in the cargo area of the 6th generation.
I just saw the6th Gen this weekend at a Toyota event and you are right about the cargo area. It is small by comparison. The seating volume in the front is similar but the rear looks tighter. Yes the 5th gen is one of Toyotas most reliable units ever produced and I suspect many will eventually see crazy longevity mileage numbers like the 4.7 tundras have produced.
I bought my new Gen 5 TRD-ORP in Ice-Cap with KDSS two weeks ago, and I love it!
Good Choice on color "ice cap"
All 5th gen needs is GXs 6 speed transmission and they could continue producing it.
That would be awesome.
Excellent synopsis... as a shameless fan-boi I honestly like both gens... the V8 in our GX is completely worthless offroad when youre going along at 3mph 😆... but I understand the desire for power. As you stated... with the V6 4runner you are guaranteed a million mile 4runner... that's a serious benefit....
Thank you for weighing in. Watching your channel grow with your GX insight helped me seed some ideas for my 4runner input. Thank you. Just got a chance to see the 6th gen in person and it no doubt got me a little geeked.
It’s the torque that makes the v8 good at 3 mph
V6 rules, I am confident when I ride 4Runner.
Yes it does.
Got a 24 TRD off road premium about a month ago, so glad I did!!!!
Awesome! Welcome to the Club.
Factor in all of the problems Toyota is having with the new Tundras. Who’s to say there aren’t going to be a ton of issues with the new 4runners. Buyer beware for sure.
that’s no joke
My 2024 4R TRD Pro...
4.0L V6 mated to a 5 Speed Automatic...
The Ultimate In "Go Anywhere" RELIABILITY...!
Elon Musk Has Stated that HIS DAILY will be a Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro on MARS!!! Wow! Red Dust on your 4Runner...
(No Surface Water H2O on the Red Planet)
NOT A TESLA Cyber Rust Truck!
Significant Differences between 5th Gen 2024 4R TRD Pro vs. 6th Gen 2025 4R TRD Pro:
20" front light bar
Yellow Square, Not Round, Rigid Fog Lights
Huge dash mounted Colour TV to watch YT "Wheel2LiveOutdoors...
the Best!!!"
Power Adjustable Steer Wheel Column... Nice!
2 drivers' seat position memory... Much Better Nice for Wifey!
Portable JBL Dash Mount Hand Held Speaker... Okay But, Easier to Forget or Misplace and Lose!!!
Digital Camera View Projection Rear View Mirror... No More... "Could You Move Your Head Please?" I Can't See...
Power Lift Rear Tailgate Door with iconic power rear window! Put Away the Pitch Forks Men, StandDown... No Rioting Please...! Toyota Listened with Both Ears!
THEY CONTINUED THE LEGACY!
BEST New Feature...
OMG...!!! A "LOCKING GAS CAP EXTERIOR DOOR...!!!" We had to WAIT 40 YEARS, Since 1984 for a Freaking LOCKING EXTERIOR GAS CAP DOOR...!!! HAIL MARY! FULL OF GRACE!
2.4L Gas 4CYLINDER 'SpinWhining...' TURBO iForceMax with Accessory Electric Lawn Mower Engine sandwiched between an 8 speed automatic transmission... Producing
326hp/465ft/lb torque...!
Impressive Numbers...! EXCEPT...
NO WATER CROSSINGS ALLOWED,
VOIDS TOYOTA WARRANTY...!
MAJOR DESIGN ERROR...
Toyota... If You Designed A "POWER LIFT TAILGATE..." WHY IS THERE ONLY A 2 POSITION, PROP ROD TO HOLD UP THE HOOD AND NOT HOOD STRUTS...??? MY 5TH GEN 4Runner TRD Pro HAS Factory Hydrolic Hood Struts!!!
You're Going to MSRP the 4R TRD Pro this Fall '24 at US$60-65,000 NOT Including Dealer RipOffs of US$10-20,000 MarkUps...
US$80,000+Out the Door and I HAVE to Use a PropRod for the Hood...??!!! Come On Toyota!
HEY Moritzu/Brown Collaboration,(sounds like a rock band!)
If TNGA-F Platforms are that Modular... On The Year3 4Runner ReFresh... Can You SHOE HORN into that 2 POSITION PROP ROD Engine Bay... The Lexus GX 550 Overland Twin Turbo V6...???
Jus' Say'in...
I'D Buy That NOW...
Otherwise, I kinda like the New 6th Gen Creature Comforts... but Not the 2 position Prop Rod Hood Support over that 2.4L 4Cylinder Turbo iForceMax Hybrid that you cain't get wet...!
Gentlemen... Get'em while you can 5th Gen 4Runner... TRD Pro WILL HOLD AND MAINTAIN BETTER RESALE VALUE...
HOW MUCH TO REPLACE THE BATTERY ON A 6TH GRN 4RUNNER iForce Max Hybred Engine???
IS IT LIKE THE PRIUS...$$$???
Proud Owner of a 2024 5th Gen
4R TRD Pro! 125 days old... and I've been Already Been Superceded
(Not Really! By the 6th Gen)
Long Live The NA V6...!
Long Live The 5th Gen...
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@michaelr.l.militia8921 That was awesome. Where did you get your 4Runner from? I have been checking Steven Greek Toyota lately. Thanks.
Loved it.
@@oaouda
"Hey Bud...!"👋 Thanks for the Thumbs Up Reply and Question...
Stockton Toyota ("ToyotaTown," Stockton, CA)
2024 Toyota 4runner TRD Pro
Ice Cap... No running boards, No
Sliding Cargo Tray...
Paid MSRP + 2,500 Dealer MarkUp(Reduced from 5,000)
NO Dealer Prep -995.00, sales & handling, sales tax (SF@8.625%)
CA Reg./Licensing 699.99
US$64,915.31 Out the Door... ONE Check, PAID IN FULL...
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Seems to be Some in Oregon
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I bought my 2024 a few weeks ago yes a SR5 premium old school beast.
I also got a 2024 SR5 premium I feel that it’s the sweet spot in all the levels of trim.
Awesome. 😎
Did you buy it or is it on a loan?
@@phillyfathead Did you get the 4x4? I checked the price difference between the TRD Off Road premium and SR5 4x4 premium and it is about $2000. How much did you get yours for? Thanks
@@oaouda it’s a 4X4 really quiet loaded for $40,000
Enjoyed your video and opinions. The new 6th Gen is very cool and sure, I’d want one. Probably a Trailhunter. But…. I so want a 4Runner to start going on overlanding trips and camping. But I know that new 6th gen is just going to be too much money to start. So, I’m planning on looking for a 22’ or newer TRD ORP (Lunar Rock if I could). Now I just need the prices of the used 4Runners to tank! 😂. Looking to join the community someday, hopefully this fall. Go Hogs! (My daughter is a Masters Student there). Take care. -Chris🏔️🚙
Your reasoning is on point. It’s such a great platform for Overlanding. Lunar rock is one of my favorite colors. Go hogs go and thank you for the kind words.
Won't be able to sleep in the back of the 6th gen. Seats fold different so not enough room.
Don't wait for big price drops. It is not likely. Just look at the demand for the previous gen Tundra. Prices of clean used trucks went up, not down, while new ones languish on lots. Go buy what you want soon and you will be glad you did.
I just bought a 2024(last v6). So glad I did. This thing is AMAZING! Even the stock suspension is top quality and goes over bumps like it's butter. Hope I don't break these shocks. *knock on wood* I get head-turns all around. I mean some are probably looking at oncoming cars to cross the street,mine just happens to be one of those oncoming cars; tree huggers are just wondering why an idiot would pay for a gas guzzler;others are probably thinking that is a fking ugly 4x4, goodness; but in my head everyone is thinking, "damn look at that sweet ride." All joking aside I love this 4 Runner.
"You can have my 4 Runner when you pry it from my cold, dead foot."
Awesome. Sounds like my internal dialogue at times. Lol b
Also Toyota changed engines mainly for emissions. Toyota also stated having regrets since they put so much development in perfecting their V6 and V8 engines.
Exactly
I just bought a 2024 TRD Off Road Premium 2 weeks ago. I bought it for all the reasons you listed but mostly because of the tried and true, naturally aspirated V6. I'm diggin it and so far have added some pretty cool, essential bolt-ons....rock solders, light bars, ditch lights, tinted windows, and a killer JL Audio stereo system with wireless Apple Car Play. Fisher-Price makes better stereos than Toyota! That was the first thing to go! :) I might go with the Old Man Emu BP51 and 33" Mikey Thompson Baja Boss tires, down the road once I wear out the stock tires. This is my 6th Toyota in 30 years of driving but my first 4Runner....I love it!
Too cool. You have it going in the right direction. Couldn’t agree more on the radio.
Got a 2024 4WD SR5 Premium 2 weeks ago. I don’t hate the 6th Gen but I’ve been in the market for a 4Runner since 2022. Was finally able to pull the trigger and couldn’t be happier. Wanted the ORP but I had to be honest with myself. I’m never gonna go off roading. At the most just road trips to Joshua tree.
Awesome. I did the same thing. Wreslted and studied for 2-3 years before buying and I think that’s why I’m so “married” to it after 6 years.
5G is nice but the price for a 2010 vehicle coupled with the concerning crash test rating is a BIG no for me. I'd try my luck with the 6G, the powertrain I'm not concerned about, ultimately it's a Toyota and they're not cut from the same cloth as the other American off-road vehicle manufacturers.
I just want to see some long term hard miles in that hybrid system before I commit. Especially for the price. The 5th gen is as reliable as it gets and I may never let mine go. Thanks for the comment.
Bought a 2024 Trd orp in underground with kdss in January. We are replacing our 2008 land cruiser as a daily, but keeping it as well. We have been absolutely loving it. No regrets on not waiting for the 6th gen.
Awesome. How many miles on your 08 LC?
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man u put a pulling cam in that V6 giving it some more lower end torque and HP to get on the freeway better maybe put a little higher compression piston in it and man it's got plenty of power ,,, and u don't need to drive a 4runner 120 down the road like they will run anyways.
I know turbos break on diesel trucks and the cost to replace, and battery's cost a bunch too for a EV especially in 10 years when prices are even more higher. where a rebuild kit for the V6 is 200-800 bucks with new pistons and cam in it ....
U can rebuild a 2010-2020 with engine , transmission , transfer case and front and rear ends for 4 grand off amazon , then some trd seat upgrades and bam its a new 4runner.
the 6th gen has the 3.0 safety sense and a little bigger with EV woooo.
5th gen is going to be hard to beat...
they might be even more sought after due to smaller size & lower cost for maintenance & rebuilding in off road communities.
Couldn’t agree more. Thanks for weighing in.
Last year I bought a 2019 4Runner trd off road with 42k miles, because I wanted nothing to do with the redesign.
Good choice.
Got my 5th gen last week. Love it
Enjoy it
I think the 6th Gen sits lower. I’ll be keeping my 5th Gen. They will probably go up in value since it has the bulletproof 4.0 and 5 speed auto. I get 23 mpg in mixed driving. The 6th Gen will probably get 25 mpg with the same driving.
I just saw the 6th gen in person and although the outside is bigger the interior room somehow looks smaller. I also think ground clearance as you mentioned looks less than the 5th gen. I noticed they had to run 33" tires and go with a larger lift to achieve a ride height similar to the 5th gen TRD PRo.
Just picked up a 2024 Off-road before the 6th gen comes out because she’s a mule.
Cool what color did you go with.
i agree 100% im sorry but the v6 is solid this turbo charged crap is gonna come with issues. we wink wink already seing issue on the tacoma. lots of broken parts.
Yes. I have seen numerous complaints with panel squeaks and other issues that tend to be abnormal on toyota trucks.
Yadda yadda yadda. To each their own. You got a 5th gen and you’re happy, leave it at that. Those who get the 6th gen will be happy too.
I just bought a 5th gen... tic toc guys
😎 that’s what I’m talking about.
Got a 2024 5th gen. About a month ago. My first mod was the widdle wadder and not to keep bragging, but we hit the grocery store and school pick up line on the daily! 💪
Very nice! widdle wadder. Love it.
I go off-road often. It is not a slug and has enough power for me, including high altitude mountains.
I’m ok with it even with 35’s. Regearing and a tune would help but as I said I’m ok with it.
Bought a new 2020 4R TRD Pro. Already put 137K miles on it...zero problems. Very happy with it. Don't plan on ever getting rid of it. (But...I can't wait to see the 7th Gen, 2 cylinder, twin-turbo. The gas mileage is gonna be GREAT!]
Haha. Yeah no doubt. With limited cargo for hydrogen fuel cells and solar array.
@@Wheel2LiveOffRoad 🤣😂😆 I hear there are plans for an optional wind turbine.
That 4runner need its own overview video! Such a beast
Coming soon. Been waiting till I got caught up on a few more mods.
Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦 ! I purchased the 5th generation 4Runner in 2023 anticipation of the 6th generation soon to be released in the not distant future . I agree with you that the 5th generation will certainly be a better vehicle for the long term of ownership . 😊
Awesome. Congratulations on your purchase and thanks for dropping a comment.
I absolutely love my 5th gen with its V6.
Awesome.
Bought 23 4runner last year thinking it was the last year of production. I waited about 3 months until delivery. Some days i would even forget i had deposit on it lol anyways with 6th gen announced. I wouldn’t trade it in for one.
Awesome story. Thanks for sharing.
The crawl control is electric b.s. mpg sucks unless it's a one ton. it really needed a sfa and front locker. Still good video. Good job. But nope....
Agree the MPG is horrendous any way you look at it. Would trade crawl control and atrac for a front locker in a heart beat. Thanks for weighing in.
@@Wheel2LiveOffRoad I can't stand the crawl control and atrac. It's freakn annoying. I would trade it too. 🤣
It is better than any junk Ford Bronco on a road😊
What did the Bronco do to you. Lol.
2014 4 Runner here. Installed a Magnuson Super Charger about 5 years ago along with several overlanding goodies. Bullet proof.
How does the power feel with the supercharger? I am going to give it a tune to help with throttle response but more horses would always be fun.
@@Wheel2LiveOffRoad So far so good. No issues. Economy isn’t that great. Not that it was to begin with. But with the SC now its premium. Yay. It’s not Mad Max crazy, but I can definitely notice the difference.
I agree with you!
I'll try to make it look like yours, looks pretty awesome
Thanks. I am finally getting it close to my final vision.
@Wheel2LiveOffRoad
One day I'm going to ask you for the part list sir
Everyone would be happy, happy, happy if the 6th gen 4runner had a 4 cylinder with a 3 speed manual putting out 100 ft lbs of torque, pushing all 5000 pounds of vehicle. Throw in 13 inch knobby tires and you've got a hit!
Great point
Thank you very much for your opinion and time. Agree with you pretty much on everything. What would you choose between 4Runner and Bronco if you can only have ONE?
I really like taking the doors and top off of the Bronco but I love my 4 runner.
All looks no go. It needed a v8 never was given one
I have seen one that put the 5.7 from the tundra in one and straight axle swapped on 37's was pretty wild.
@@Wheel2LiveOffRoad there we go..
I'll just say right now from a mechanics perspective the sixth gen will suck and the customers are going to feel it in probably about 10 to 12 years or sooner if they don't keep up with maintenance when they blow up turbos and switch out battery packs its like a $12,000+ alone. Recommendation should you buy the 6th Gen is buy the extended warranty as long as you own it.
No joke on that extended warranty. Folks are going to have a stroke when that battery pack decides to go south. Well for that matter turbos aren't cheap either.
Couldn’t agree more! Despite Toyota’s reliability, no way a turbo/hybrid engine can compete with the dependability of the 5th gen V6. I own a 22 TRD ORP X series. Most solid well built vehicle I have ever had. I love this truck and know it will look great years from now.
Thanks for weighing in. Glad to see I’m not in the minority in my thinking.
Got a 24 ORP in Solar Octane at the beginning of February, traded in my 20 OR Tacoma. With less 250 miles on it I put some Method 705 wheels with Mickey Thompson Baja Boss tires, stock size for now , had some Morimoto fogs that I took off the Tacoma that I put on.
Awesome. 😎 color and already putting the mods on I love it.
I would not trade my fully built 4th gen with v8 for 5th or 6th gen. I imagine if I got a 6 gen with icon suspension and everything else I have done I would be approaching 90 thousand dollars. I would trade my ride for a fully built new one. The 5th would need to have lower gears to handle larger tires. I am sure the 6 gen will be more capable on running large tire’s than my v8.
My v6 does well with 35's but I'm pushing its limits on stock gears. 4th gen built rigs with v8's are freaking awesome. Don't blame you on not trading.
I purchased a new 23 GX460 before they were sold out 💙 the V8. I invested 69 thousand in engine reliability, not looks, high tech and a 4cylinder turbo. Why would you invest more money in a vehicle that’s unproven.
Locally we had people waiting to buy the last of the GX's at our Lexus dealer. Good score for you. Toyota invested so much into those V8's and V6's, proven reliability.
I've commented on your vids before, and you are spot on with this breakdown.
I paid a horrific price for mine off the lot in 2022. (Chip shortage, and "market adjustments"). I wanted white, dealer said white is 9 months out. I waived color choice and ended up with the goofy green TRD Pro. (Yes, buying a Pro is stupid, I know. The "Fox" shocks with piggyback resi's arent even made by Fox, they are garbage. The fronts completely failed at 22k miles. Lesson learned.
I went Dobinsons MRR on all 4 corners, 3" lift, and it seems to be what I would call a perfect mesh.
I'm 52, this vehicle will live longer than I will, and I'd NEVER even think about the 6th gen. It's gonna take YEARS for true 4runner guys to even BEGIN to trust the motor in the 6th gen.
...we know what we have...
Why be a guinea pig, buy a 5th gen.
Period.
Yes those Dobinson's MRR put the factory suspension to shame. Yeah, no way at this point I'm cutting loose of my 5th gen. Thanks for weighing in on this issue.
Slow, gas guzzler, 5 speed transmission, time to move on.
It won’t win many races that’s for sure.
It’s decently quick is you use S mode. It’s decently efficient if you keep the Eco light on, but everyone will be passing including mopeds.
Yup, nothing like a turbo 4banger, lol 🤦♂️
I wish a trail hunter like trim was out when I bought my 22. Would have saved me a lot of time modding. As much as I like the new 4runner, I'd like to keep my 5th gen for at least another 10 years. Perfect vehicle for my needs
The trail hunter package is pretty dang cool. That green color speaks to me.
The 5th gen is the best. I wish I could afford one. It looks better, it more capable and ofc more reliable. It's been here for like 15 years and still looks good and sought after. You don't even lose that much money with higher mileage for it either. I saw a 2011 with like 200k miles that's selling for 15k. Like it's worth it. Sure you could say it's sluggish or gas guzzler, but you don't buy a heavy car with a 4.0 v6 without considering the gas mileage. And if you do care about gas mileage for a huge car. Get a crossover or the new hybrids.
Thanks for weighing in. Good points and with the problems the tundra hybrids have had I think the 4.0 might go down as the last of the indestructible Toyota engines.
@@Wheel2LiveOffRoad 100%
Selling a 2018 Trd Pro CalvaryBlue only 32k on it in a perfect condition also 5yrs 100.000’warranty
I'm not sure where you are located but that sounds like a solid price. Have you had any luck with the sale? Cavalry Blue is one of the best special colors.
@@Wheel2LiveOffRoad hey bud…I didn’t sell it to be honest I didn’t put it on any sites either…It only has 32.000 miles on it I made mistake up above I meant miles….Im located in PA…this 4runner is a excellent condition only reason selling need bigger suv cause of more kids
Have a new 23 TRD PRO and going to keep it for very long time 👍👌
Nice 👍
im coming from a 4th gen with the 4.7 and its 2wd and my issue is the lack of power with the 5th gen. the power of the new 4 cylinder turbo has my attention. im thinking 5th gen for a few years and wait and see how the new tacoma and 4runner fare with the new power plant. thanks for the video
Agree the extra power would be nice but I want to see how well this hybrid system fares before I move on from the most the reliable thing I have ever owned.
@@Wheel2LiveOffRoad no hybrid for me. The turbo option is plenty. Peak torque at 1500 is just what you need in a truck.
I really like your build, I’m doing a similar one as we speak. Super White FTW ❤, also the 6th gen sounds like a lawnmower
It does for sure. Even with it being piped in through the speakers it sounds ridiculous.
@@Wheel2LiveOffRoad I had that in my ford focus RS and unplugged it from the trunk 😆
I could use some real world 4runner advice. My fam is considering nabbing one of these final 5th gens. Narrowed it down to the Offroad Premium, Offroad Premium with KDSS, or the TRDPro. Resale value is meaningful, though we do keep vehicles for the long term. Mostly on-road and light trail performance prioritized. No major offroading or modification intended at this time (perhaps mods in future), but we like to have serious get-out-of-a-jam capability just in case. How would you rate these three options?
If planning to suspension lift someday then I would stay away from KDSS. Just my .02 cents. I think some have had issues with lifting KDSS equipped trucks. If you are going for stock no mods and retaining the most value in time I would look the Pro in the special color. I have seen the new Terrra color in person and its one of my favorite special colors. The Pro in stock form just rides amazingly well with the Fox Shocks. However, if I were planning to build in the future I would just save the upfront money and build out a TRD Offroad Prem w/o KDSS. More options on colors as well.
@@Wheel2LiveOffRoad many thanks!
@@windlord1111 No problem.
I bought a CPO 2023 ORP in Lunar Rock in February. Best decision ever. I was looking for a while and traveled 4 hours to a dealer that had exactly what I wanted. (I really wanted Lunar Rock ORP & a sunroof 😎). First thing I bought was some thick cargo liners for the cargo area and back of the rear seats. If you are on the fence….test drive one. The build quality is excellent.
Good choice! Love Lunar Rock its one of the best colors. Build quality is top notch for sure. Thanks for sharing.
A good valid point of view. Admittedly I’m a little biased, having owned four different gens, including the latest. Personally, if they had combined the anytime 4wd system I had on my ‘08 sport, with some 5th gen changes, I’d be in heaven. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Well said! Thanks for sharing.
I couldn’t imagine a more riskier move than not choosing a time tested 5th generation 4Runner (which goes beyond just being time tested, it’s like the Heavyweight Champion of long term reliability)…to instead going with a first year rollout of a complete redesign. Well, I guess it doesn’t matter for people who only do a few years in a vehicle, then switch. However, even for those people, I hear that there’s an annoying space eating bulge in the cargo area of the 6th generation.
I just saw the6th Gen this weekend at a Toyota event and you are right about the cargo area. It is small by comparison. The seating volume in the front is similar but the rear looks tighter. Yes the 5th gen is one of Toyotas most reliable units ever produced and I suspect many will eventually see crazy longevity mileage numbers like the 4.7 tundras have produced.
33 mpg is way too tempting
not going to lie that is appealing.
It not going to get 33mpg!
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Good video. FJ 4.0 baby!
Hard to beat those FJ’s.