Y’all, Lin’s final performance in Hamilton was ALSO Leslie and Pippa’s final performance…the energy in that room was electric. I’m glad that OP and her mom got to be there; they deserve it. Screw brunch boy
@@jac0736 Lin, Leslie, and Pippa all are the original actors that play the three major leads in the show (Alexander Hamilton, Aaron Burr, and Elizabeth "Eliza" Schuyler-Hamilton respectively). It's a pretty big deal, so it's super ideal that they didn't give up the tickets. I very much envy them lol
YES!!! Im like screw that because how the hell would the boyfriend see how happy she was and SEEN the text between girlfriend and moms excitement to then suddenly go call his sister and telling her "yo I got you tickets to Hamilton" LIKE EXCUSE ME!!
I think Arasha's closing argument in the first story is completely valid and I agree with in isolation, but it has nothing to do with parents making their child's name super difficult to spell for no reason, this isn't a cultural name, it's just a weirdly spelled name for the sake of being different.
My thoughts exactly if it’s from another culture absolutely you shouldn’t change the spelling. But if it’s just to be quirky no you should not change the spelling
@@poperman3208 You can even be quirky within reason, Juliette, Giuliette, Julieta... Those are all valid, non ridiculous variations of the name. I think not seeing that abomination of a name written down might have made it sound less ridiculous for them.
@@nina9565Just one thing, Julieta isn't a quirky spelling. It's how it's spelled in Spanish speaking or Portuguese speaking countries. I guess it would be a quirky spelling if someone who wasn't from any of those cultures picked that one.
10:30 I understand Arasha’s and Amanda’s take on the first story, OP made an unwarranted opinion, fair enough, but imo I think some parenting behaviour needs to be called out. There are parents that do name their children like they’re naming their pet dog or car because it’s “cute,” “unique,” and “quirky” without considering how it’s going their child’s life as they get older. Maybe if they were named differently they would understand. Objectively, the spelling is tedious and the child is going to have a hard time spelling it out for others and correcting people how to pronounce it.
yeah - i understand in a way! my mother was pressured by my grandparents not to choose names she really liked for ME because they were very conservative and thought they were too wierd. but the difference there is that they were seen as strange for being uncommon/androgynous/gaelic - not because of unconventional or strange spellings. theres no way other kids wont eventually see her name written out and say shit 😭
i honestly skipped over most of the first story but being friends with someone for 17 years at only 21-22 isn’t a run of the mill friendship. that’s the exact type of bluntness i would want from someone i’ve known that long.
There's a difference between a name that's unique because it's not western or english and a common english name being spelt with purposely butchered spelling as a way to feel special. It's about context. It's a weird almost red flag to give your kid a name that's ridiculous on purpose with no care for the child's feelings. It's not the same as a traditional/foreign name.
Yeah going have to go with AH for the smosh cast on this. I still love them just saying their examples of their names and such are not really valid and, sorry to put it this way, they are not young so they can't go by their experiences.
Yeah, they made it personal when it’s way worse than their experiences! (Except the 2nd woman’s husband’s with his name which should have been taken more seriously.)
The thing is I think the cast saw this name as a cultural/traditional/foreign name and that we should respect such names. Which I totally agree with! There are so many cultures, traditions, ethnic groups and they surely have their own customs, names, spellings. HOWEVER, this is not the case. In the first story it's probably a white couple who wants their kid's nam to be quirky, funny, outstanding. Sorry but you're bringing trauma to this kid. And then the cast's reasoning is being that kids will always find something to bully you about? That's a tone-deaf thing to say tbh.
Sure, but it’s not about whether or not OP was correct for their opinion, it’s about whether or not they were the asshole. And OP was both probably correct and the asshole. She literally harassed the parents and went out of her way to make sure her opinion was heard multiple times even after it was made clear, the opinion was not wanted. OP could have handled this in so many better ways, and once the parents expressed their disagreement, OP needed to drop it, period.
Elementary School Teacher here. The teacher in the replies is 100% right about unique spellings being directly correlated to problem parents. Consistent behavior issues with most of those kids, and unsupportive, permissive parenting.
I'm kind of shocked that the whole segment on this was mainly based on parental rights as opposed to the actual welfare of the kids. I'm not saying for sure that the name even would cause them to be bullied, but Smosh was prioritizing the wrong things in my opinion.
Yes my name is Saadia I struggled extremely to learn how to write and read my name and was bullied for having a weird name I also had teachers pronounce my name wrong on purpose even after being corrected just to be mean
It's crazy when you can tell things like that in advance based on some seemingly arbitrary detail. It makes me think about when I was waiting tables at a steakhouse, and a lady I worked with who had been around for years said that you could predict how well a table would tip based on how they had their steak cooked. The more rare the better the tip, the more well done of course, the lower the tip. It's almost across the board true. Like unbelievably accurate.
As someone who's been a kid and been a teacher, that poor kid has a ALOT of bullying ahead of her, "but bullies would find other things" yeah and handing them more bullets doesn't help. Kids are RUTHLESS.
I was bullied for my name. My teachers would mispronounce it all the time and my bullies would purposely say my name wrong in my ear to annoy me. If I have a kid, I'm saving them the headache of "unique" names.
100% true, literally said the same thing you did in another reply. There’s a difference between simply throwing someone into shark-infested waters and throwing someone into shark-infested waters having dumped countless buckets of chum into the water beforehand.
Like, what?? But bullies will find other thi gs to bully her? Like it gives of the energy as we all die someday, so lets just burn the clothes im wearing for shits and giggles. Just because it will happen doesn't mean you should or even be justified to enhance the process. Like bullying is no light matter and saying yeah its not going change anything bc pff children will bully you anyway is crazy. Like how about preventing it beforehand LIKE YOU HAVE THE POWER AND THE CHOICE, do not choose to make your childs life harder just bc you think you want to be kwuriey (quirky)... Omg
All bullying and problems with other people aside, poor 5 year old kindergartner Ghiuliyette is gonna have to try to spell that on all of her papers for school.
So I know this is a joke, but my sibling has a tough to spell name, and they just spelled it phonetically in school. They only started spelling it correctly later in life for Id and documents
The Juliet one, my moms a teacher and I can tell you that little girl is gonna struggle with her own name so much when learning how to read and write, that's not cultural or anything it's just a pain😭
the OP is not the AH the parents are idiots. It's not a cultural thing at all it's their need to be different, so much so that it will follow this girl for the rest of her life. Teachers deal with this all the time. Yes, it's okay for the OP to give her opinion especially if it's to educate the parents on what they are setting their child up for in the future.
Highschool teacher here. The top comment is absolutely correct. Obscure spellings are not that common; but the three cases I've taught have all changed their names as soon as they hit 18. To clarify, we don't mean names that are from different cultures, or names that have multiple spellings (like John and Jon), but names where the parents intention was to make their kid 'stand out' more so than actually naming them. The two schools I've taught at also do keep a close watch on these students/their parents as, everytime so far, these parents have been 'karen-types' who complain to the school and blame us for their kids doing poorly on assessments.
@@ViridianFlow Honestly, knowing how highschool students are, all it will take is for one teacher to read their name as "Ghoul-" during role call for the classmates to start calling her Ghoul.
Yeah, there is a HUGE difference between having a culturally different name vs. some random misspelling of the original name just for the sake of being unique.
Exactly this. There was a comment made about challenging naming conventions and breaking the mold and that's all fine and dandy... When you're making those decisions for yourself. It's a completely different story when you experience strife over a decision made for you when you were born.
Regarding names, I want to say this: there’s a difference between naming your child with a name that’s common in your culture/language vs a name that’s already common but spelled differently bc you want to be “quirky and new”
If your boyfriend calls you a c-u-next-tuesday for standing up to him because he tried to STEAL YOUR THEATER TICKETS, that’s more than a “dump him” situation. That’s a “nuke every last trace of your relationship because this is a psycho” situation. WTF.
What baffles me the most is the fact he DIDNT do the simplest part and ASK her. Instead, he went out of his way to promise someone something he doesnt have, then hide it up until the very end when he has the Audacity to tell his family in front of her. LOL wtf. He could have at any point asked her !!! How do you expect your gf to take away her present from her OWN mother and give away thousands of dollars for your sis unknowingly WHILE he’s the one filthy rich. & then the family backing him up like yep!!! Hes in the right! He stole your present from your family but its ok bc its now benefitting us!!!
@@jl7662 Because he knew exactly what he was doing. He knows that his girlfriend loves her mom, and that she wouldn't give those tickets up if he asked directly So he decided to spring this on her as she was meeting his parents for the first time, so she wouldn't be able to say no (or atleast that's what he expected) That's the misconception we have about rich assholes, they aren't oblivious to the wants and needs of people below their station. They're just entitled enough to think their convenience takes precedence
Given that Hamilton-girl's bf's family are already harassing her, I kinda feel like kindest thing for the sister is for OP to contact her directly and explain the situation, *including* the fact that there are available tickets that are in her family's price range, and instead of buying her something that would make her very happy they are trying to *steal* something they could easily buy themselves. And express sympathy for her having to deal with these exhausting people her whole life.
I had a similar thought, as Jen most definitely would benefit from connection with people who Actually care for her. Its been a while since since Ive felt the need to throw out some personal insults, but as soon as it was revealed that Jens parents actually berated the OP for not succumbing to the saddistic manipulation by the scumbag of a boyfriend, it was clear why the little sister smokes, is depressed, etc. - her family consists of narcissistic assholes. Hopefully she has gotten out of that hell after all these years, and I dont usually indulge in this kind of shit, but I fr can agree: Justice for Jen!
She could even play a "Uno reverse" card and tell the little sister something like: "So sorry, but there was a mix up: you see, your brother never told me that he expected me to give you my tickets, and I actually bought these as a gift for my mother. But don't worry: I spoke with your parents at dinner tonight and they said that they will buy you your own ticket to attend! I told them that the prices are a bit high right now because of resellers, but they said that they can afford it and that they would spare no expense to bring a smile back on your face after the though period you've being going through, and your brother promised to also pitch in to make this happen!" Then sit back and let them either be the bad guys or cough up the cash.
@@princevesperal sounds like a good idea in theory, but in reality the main victim would be Jen. she would just be lying to the poor girl and giving her (possibly) false hope *again.* judging by this family’s behaviour, this would not make them pay for new tickets - if they’re refusing to send Jen to therapy, and think it’s okay to speak to OP like that i don’t think they care that much about admitting to her that they’re not gonna buy those tickets.
"Do not tell them how to raise their children" assumes that parents always know how to best care for a child; as a teacher I've had to file enough abuse or negligence reports with CPS to know that's certainly not true.
Is it not a parents responsibility to treat their children correctly? Sure but obviously having a child doesn't magically turn them geniuses, they should work towards learning how to parent, and naming your child something non conventional is not abuse.
I believe that. As a mom, I don’t react well when people criticize my parenting; but as a victim of childhood abuse and neglect, I wish people would have stepped in more on my behalf. Many tried but it persisted all through my young life, and it’s the reason I no longer speak to my mother and keep my dad at a distance. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out if someone is making bad decisions as a parent, even if you don’t fully understand the context of their home situation. Thank you for standing up for children.
@@nuyynuyy In cases like the above, yes it is. Just like how it's abuse to make children do things like participate in youtube videos and pressuring them into scenarios they don't want to be a part of. That child will be bullied every year of school, will have employers ignore their applications, and will have their mental health suffer. All for the ego of the parents. Children are people, not tools for a parent's amusement. Doing something intentionally or negligently that will negatively affect the life of a child is abuse.
Hamilton ticket story: since they were only dating for 2 months, it makes since that the boyfriend didn’t show any red flags. Many abusive partners are first very sweet and kind in the beginning, but further down the line they start relaxing and let their bad/controlling side show, expecting their partner just accept this.
Yeah fr.. I'm relieved she could realize it this early and leave that guy (also really glad she got to watch the show with her mom, I felt genuinely SO happy for them
@@justignoremyusername yeah, he definitely showed her what kind of person he is early on. And he did it in such an extreme way that she couldn't simply convince herself that everything was fine. I shudder to think what he's capable of if this is how he treats someone he's just started dating
I’ve always hated the “Don’t tell parents how to treat their kids” mentality because it just allows parents’ shitty behavior. You shouldn’t be afraid to call parents out if their actions seem harmful. Someone should’ve told my parents how to act.
This. I don’t get how people act like the act of childbirth turns both parents into child development geniuses. There are maternal instincts but besides that they haven’t gained any new information just by the child coming into existence. There are SO many books on parenting for a reason. Your kid should not be a trial and error experiment
Yes, but it would be a stretch to call the parents’ actions in the first story “harmful”. It would be one thing if they were abusive to the child, but I think the child could make the decision for themselves if they want to be called something else in school and then perhaps change their name legally later on. I really think the OP of that story was overstepping their bounds. Maybe suggest to the parents once that they change the name, but to be so insistent is kinda weird
It's interesting that they all unanimously agreed that people should be more accepting of unique names, but they literally joked about calling the girl in question, Ghirardelli, Goo-lette, and Gillette. They're quite actually proving the OP's point, and it seems like they're perpetuating the problem they're trying to fight against. Just an observation.
@@brwnkd3795Yeah they aren't very consistent and as mature as they think (having viewed some other Smosh takes), especially in contrast to other reddit channels like Mark Narrations or Lost Genre who are more thoughtful and clearly have more life experience under their belt.
I think the most underrated part of this show is being able to hear the crew absolutely lose it sometimes. It truly brings me joy to hear them having fun.
The first story was kind of weird for them to not be able to grasp. The OP is an AH for pushing it past a certain point but the parents are AH for naming their kids like that. Arasha is comparing having a culturally unique name to a very common name spelled entirely randomly. My name is "Raul" people had problems with even just that, but it's a very common Hispanic name. Now if my parents had gone and named me "Rahuewl" that would be awful.
100% agreed. It's one thing to be different but normal within your own community (like with Arasha or Amanda's husband) and to be constantly "othered" for something you've come to identify as. Being like "yeah, it's Raul, it's Spanish" is worlds away from "yeah, it's Ghiuliyette, my parents are assholes"
You're right, I think it's an ESH too. OP had valid concerns but it's ultimately not her problem, especially not for her to keep pushing it. But the parents overreacted as well, like were they high when they came up with that name or something?? Cuz that name just looks pretentious af and over-the-top for no good reason.
The first story has an update where OP apologizes and is reinstated as godparent because the friend agrees the spelling might be crazy, but her husband still wants OP out. Wild that they didn’t include it because I’m pretty sure the update was available early on, but I could be wrong.
For the first story, there's a difference between cultural/"ethnic" names, stylistic choices in spelling, and whatever is going on with "Ghiuliyette." Arasha and Amanda are absolutely right about uncommon/cultural names. Those names have meanings and should absolutely be respected. Stylistic choices should also be respected, such as spelling variations (e.g. "Shane" vs "Shayne" or "Sarah" vs "Sara"). The difference between the examples I gave and "Ghiuliyette" vs "Juliet" is that Shayne and Sara are still very obviously Shane and Sarah. "Ghiuliyette" isn't even phenetic. It's just a pain in the ass.
Yes exactly this should be the top comment!!!! If she named the kid Giuliana or something that would be no problem, it’s other ppl’s issue if they can’t learn how to spell a less common version of the name or if they’re ignorant enough to fuss over such a simple thing. But the mom very obviously just wanted to be quirky and different and spell it as confusing as possible which definitely is an asshole move towards her daughter who will have no chance of anybody ever recognizing what sort of spelling she uses.
Yup, I totally agree!! I immediately thought shes A LOT smarter than he thinks and TOTALLY knows he's lying so she's creating this "shit your pants" situation for him and laughing the entire time!!! 😂😂😂Legend, truly
Im glad the comments section is against them on the first story. Naming your child something unique is fine. Butchering a basic common name just to have a unique SPELLING, that doesn't even make any sense phonetically, isn't
Exactly, my first thought upon seeing the name “Ghiuliyette” without knowing it’s supposed to be Juliet would be to pronounce it like “Ghoul-ee-yet” because English phonetics have taught me that anytime a word has a “g” and “h” together it should be pronounced with the long G or “guh” sound
Sorry but what kind of psycho's first thought after reading cute texts between his gf and her mom being excited about a show is to GIVE THE TICKETS THEY HAVE TO THAT SHOW TO SOMEONE ELSE???? THEY AREN'T EVEN YOUR GODDAMN TICKETS!!!!
And then for his family to take his side when they find out he attempted to steal her tickets without even broaching the topic with her, on top of their horrific way of speaking to her, is absolutely disgusting.
As someone who's mom married into a very wealthy family when I was a teenager, I can say this is pretty common for people from wealthy families. When you've grown up in a system that is completely catered to you and your wants, of course that mentality is going to extend into every aspect of your life. In my experience, they tend to view people as property, and themselves as above the "peasantry" if you will. It's classism 101, everything is transactional and the world owes them all that it has for nothing in return. Shit, my family would get so bored from not having real problems to deal with that every week we had some new reality tv style drama happening bc they had to create it to keep themselves entertained. Oddly enough, the guy who made all that money for them, my granddad, is sick of all of it and he and I have a pretty good relationship lmao
@@enhamyloves My neighbor in the Southern U.S. named her daughter Princess Love (Lastname). It's awful. If the person was from a country where "Princess" is a normal name, that's one thing. But knowing that it's not part of your culture and your child is going to get bullied, possibly overlooked in job searches, etc just because you wanted to be cutesy isn't okay. Nicknames exist for a reason.
I have a very long name. It’s spelled normally, but it’s long. Her name is long, and will inevitably be spelled wrong. I can tell you that it made me buying a house prolonged because of all the random spellings and making sure I wasn’t having alternate ID’s. I can never find my medical records, driving records, other official records, because they spell it wrong or use some weird combination. I’ve also nearly been denied boarding on a plane, because my name can’t fit on a boarding pass, so the full thing doesn’t match my ID/passport. Naming kids stupid names does have repercussions, and Arasha doesn’t have that crazy of a name to understand the consequences.
This should be a top comment. I'm glad I live in a country where there are laws to protect kids from their idiot parents wanting to name them stupid sh1t.
Here's the thing about the first story. Ghiuliyette isn't gonna stay as a cute little baby forever. She's going to be an adult. The parent's obviously weren't thinking about that when they choose her name, whether they wanted to be quirky or not. That girl is going to get bullied for how her name is spelt, she's always going to have to correct people on how to pronounce her name and it might just make it harder for her to get a job with a name spelt like that. Sometimes parents need to know that the name they choose is gonna have negative consequences. I saw a reddit post just the other day about the OP's little sister naming their new born daughter Harlot so she could have the nickname Lottie. The little sister didn't want to name her child Charlotte after their grandmother, but wanted her daughter to have the same nickname as a way to honour their grandmother. And she choose that. OP told little sister that it was a bad name, apparently Op's sister even searched up the meaning and basically just said "No one's gonna know." and then got mad at OP for not warning her about the name after OP's sister announced her new born's name on social media and got backlash. All I'm saying is name's do have consequences and parents need to name their child with them growing into an adult in mind. Ghiuliyette is not a name for an adult. That's a garbage name and OP's friend needs to realise that and change her daughter's name before it affects her child.
@@bubgerkirg This is my opinion and I do understand others having a different opinion. But this name will make it so much harder in many ways: pronunciation, more likely to get bullied and less likely to get jobs when applying for them. It’s also just going to be so hard for that kid to be able to learn how to write her name and she (I’ve found this when people in my life but she may not feel that way) may end up resenting her name.
Do kids not get bullied for anything already? My name is Aisha and I got bullied for it so didn’t my friend Dylan? Like I’m confused why that’s a point people are making. Also when she’s older she can change it if she wants to? Yall are forcing it.
The most frustating thing about the first story is that if you have unconventional or difficult to spell name, every time you deal with important document your anxiety spikes hoping people wouldn’t butcher it
I have a very unconventional last name and this is exactly true. I constantly have to spell out my name, it took my college professor 75% of the semester to pronounce it correctly, I constantly felt embarrassed as a kid for having it. Now, I've learnt to be very happy about my last name and uave accepted it as what makes me unique, but there's a VERY good reason people got infuriated at a family naming their child "Abcde."
@@Moving_Castles4278 I felt this. At my highschool graduation, which is small highschool from a small town, had my teacher, who had me that spring semester and I had a friendly relationship with, as the announcer for the graduating students. When it was my turn to go up, they pronounced my name incorrectly in front of 200 graduates and their friends and family. I felt myself disassociate after that.
Tbh a lot of their takes on these Reddit stories make no sense to me. Love them, but sometimes they seem like they just go along with whatever the first person says and follow it to an extreme without considering the alternative perspective.
@@ryder389the only time I disagreed with them to the point I was actually kind of upset about it was when they all agreed that reclining your airplane seat was perfectly acceptable. I may be in the minority on this completely, but I seriously view people that do that as the scum of the earth (I’m exaggerating but only kinda). One of the few nice things I can say about Spirit Airlines is that none of their seats recline, which is how it SHOULD BE on every plane.
They all make valid points, especially Amanda’s point that it’s not someone’s place to give unwanted parenting advice, but at the same time, that’s exactly what I’m gonna do lol. I just have a personal disdain for parents that are so selfish that they’d purposefully make their kids life harder, even if just a tiny bit, solely so they can be quirky with the spelling of the name. Like why not just *come up* with a unique name for your kid? I totally agree with the teacher about the outlandish names being red flags for the problematic parents- it’s such a small thing on paper (and yeah, not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things), but I think it’s a huge indicator of the type of people they are.
Girl when they started saying they were in the 5th row for Hamilton dead centre and it was Lin Manuel Miranda’s last performance I literally started tearing up, thank god she was still able to go and he didn’t physically give them away.
The first story and verdict is exactly what I was thinking. Cultural names are one thing but butchering your kids name without thinking of the impact on their lives is insane.(Arasha’s and Amanda’s husband’s name are cultural.) I’ve never disagreed with the cast more than on this story. (Although I completely agree with the fact the opinion wasn’t asked for.)
Exactly my thoughts!! Cultural/foreign names and purposefully butchering a common name as a way to be unique and special to the point it is unrecognisable from the intended name are not the same. One is a real name that has history and culture and precedent and the other looks like a game of scrabble
agreed. they keep equivocating by giving names that are spelled how they sound or names that are literal cultural names - Juliet is also a cultural name but it's not like they're spelling it the Italian or French way! it's just an absurd spelling just for the sake of being absurd which will make spelling her name for the rest of her life unnecessarily difficult... Even Amanda's like "oh people always react this way to my husband's name," right so some people don't want that! why give your kid a minor inconvenience for the rest of their life over a name that's literally typical? All that said, fine, yes, the friend is definitely a jerk for continuing to go on and on about it, but also I do not fault her at all for trying to say something to save that kid from having that shitty spelling. it's my opinion that they are an asshole for how they went about it but they're not THE asshole in the situation.
Agree, imagine applying for a job with a name like that. It’s not just kids making fun of them in elementary school, the impact will follow them in life. Mostly cause that name in the story is just spelled ugly, should run it through the random name generator a few more times.
@@Debbiefromcomplianceyeah, i've had to come to terms with the fact that i'm going to disagree with the cast in these videos at least half of the time.
I have a cultural name of McCullough, which is irish people rarely ever pronounce it correctly or spell it right, same for my last name which is Scottish. It feels weird to compare to botching a name to make your kid special.
The thing about "trendy" names is that trends die. That person has to either live with that spelling forever or resent their parents for needing to change it just so they can get a job and be taken seriously. I agree that there is a line, but the cop out of "no one should ever tell a parent what to do" is why the world is full of so many traumatized adults...
Its not a really bad one but the amount of Emma's I grew up with is insane (mid 20s) and later i realized exactly why. In Friends the show one of the main characters has a baby named Emma. Its not bad but always found it very weird
@BigPekka69 That happens a lot, too. Emma is a nice name and understandable why it became popular, but I know what you mean. I think the biggest issue lately is we have people naming their kids ABCDE and X Æ A-XII trying to be "edgy" and "cool" without caring how it will impact the person forced to live with the name. There's a negative connotation with trendy name spellings like the one in the video, similar to "Karen", where it's become a complete joke. It's not the kids' fault, but they have to live with the consequences.
@@SurprisePotato91 IKR? My cousin thought she was the only one creative enough to come up with the name "Nevaeh," but when her kid started school there were two other Nevaehs in her Kindergarten class.
@ttintagel Definitely. I've met several Traeh's and Nevaeh's, it's somehow both common and unique lol. I can appreciate a lot of fun naming ideas, but there's a fine line between unique and cumbersome. Like adding silent or unnecessary letters to common names that make it hard to read, spell, or pronounce for literally no reason. Fred spelled Phreihde or Kyle spelled Pcaeile (silent P, of course). I made those up, but still. It's a trend people are already mocking, just don't do it.
First story: The expression on Arasha and Amanda’s face as Shane initially spelled out the name is exactly the reaction that poor girl has to endure for the rest of her life! 1:27 A close friend of 17 yrs should be able to voice their opinion in the best interest of a friend, regardless of how the friend takes it. Not the asshole.
yeah people keep saying "well she is the asshole because she expressed it poorly" but I just have to protest that those people are definitely more the asshole for giving their kid a potential disadvantage purely so that they can feel unique about giving her a traditional name. it's absurdly selfish, and no it's not at all the same as having a cultural name that is spelled differently in that culture or having a unique name that is spelled phonetically, or any combo of those two things.
no for real, it should be very telling that Amanda’s initial reaction was to LAUGH!! that child will be laughed at for years when people see the spelling of the name compared to how it’s pronounced. it’s very different to cultural names like amanda’s husbands or arasha which uses actual teaching of the english language both written and phonetically and would be easy for a child to read and pronounce properly. like the “GHI” sound at the start does not make a “J” sound when reading it normally. It’s also very clear those parents are doing it just to be different, because the name juliette is very common but going out of your way to spell it that way was for the parents to be “fun” and “different”, they’re not thinking about the potential impact this could have on their child’s life. Not to mention if you’re BEST friends with someone for 17 YEARS you should be able to tell them when they’re doing something that they disagree with without being cut off completely.
And then they have the audacity to try and defend the name. Like. Please be less aware of your own reactions 🙄. It doesn't matter if the opinion is asked for. People need to stop thinking it does. Other people are always going to have opinions based on things like your name. Arasha, sorry girl, but the fact I can spell your name without trying proves you wrong.
The first one - my dad fought my mom on the spelling of my name because she wanted to spell it in a 'unique' way. My dad won, and my life has been better for it. OP was NTA.
the hamilton story is crazy. i cant believe they thought getting a 17 year old tickets to a show is going to fix her and make her happy. she's 17. every 17 year old hates themselves and their life and pretty much everything. she has her whole entire life to see her favorite shows on broadway, OP's mom doesn't.
Pls like. If it's deeper than usual teen angst. Ie depression or other mental illnesses. That play is gonna do nothing. Hell my mom paid for a trip to France to visit my friend as a teen and I still came back depressed. Even tho I had lots of fun. What did help was therapy and medication. Seeing people especially parents so anti therapy is so frustrating!
@@eminempregikr!!! there’s nothing wrong with therapy & medication! everybody should go to therapy because it’s GOOD for you & people who think it’s bad should be medicated or have their opinions invalidated because clearly, they can’t see the benefits & are probably stupid if they think it’s going to “make” their child something. like no, if your child is diagnosed with something, they always had it. also, parents who are anti-medication & therapy usually don’t have good relationships with their kids & will 100% drive their kids away. being anti-therapy, anti-medication, & overall anti-mental health WILL result in you being alone forever.
Imagine she somehow DID get to go but got upset at another thing after that, what’ll they do? Get her to therapy or a counselor if she has problems, don’t throw money or gifts at it??
@@eminempregfirst: your username is hilarious and genius. Secondly: I agree. If she has depression then going to a show won’t fix it. It probably will make her happy but it won’t change her mental health or other problems she may have. I myself have severe depression and doing things that made me happy didn’t make it “go away”. Like I enjoyed them a lot of course but it didn’t magically cure me. She needs to talk to someone or her family needs to try finding out what her genuine problems are and help..
The parents in the first story are the a-holes. Get a pet if you want something to have a "quirky" name. Don't do that to your child, who has to spell that shit out everytime they tell someone their name. It won’t ruin her life, but it's going to be insanely annoying. So why even do it?
Right its going to be very annoying to deal with i kinda relate too, my name is Kenna and i often get called makenna so having to constantly tell people my real name is annoying so no its not going ruin her life its just going to get old fast
@@snacker66 yeah, it was kind of infuriating how compassionate Arasha got about being so wrong. It’s clearly not a cultural issue. It’s clearly an issue of two asshole parents wanting their kid to be “different” and “unique”. Of course neither of them are thinking about how the kid will be affected by this. It’s pathetic, and I don’t see how arasha and Amanda are so blind to it.
I think people forget when it comes to naming a child, you’re not just naming your child or a baby, you are naming a HUMAN BEING. A human who is gonna have to go through their life, live their own experiences, have their own personality separate for their parents. They are not just your child, they are HUMANS. And, yeah, maybe the kid’s life isn’t gonna be “ruined” by having a ridiculous spelt name, but it’s definitely an added annoyance to their life just so their parents can feel unique
i agree with you. also the teacher who gets top comment also speaking from his experience about kids with weird/unusual names will experience difficulties and might be going through bullying. he knows because he experienced it, of course he saw those kind of things several times at school. arasha and amanda discrediting the teacher's experience is a lil bit too much...
yeah, I completely agree with the Smosh crew here and I do think it's not the friend's business what the kid is named... but those parents do sound like awful, self-aggrandizing people, and of the reasons they could have to give THAT name to their kid, none of them are good. questioning that is entirely legitimate. in the end, they still get to name their kid. and that kid gets to change their name when they want to.
I feel in my SOUL that the Grateful Dead girl is messing with him 😂 she knows he’s lying and rather than call him out she’s teaching him a lesson the absolutely BEST way!
Why are they mixing unique and/or cultural names with names purposely spelt differently for the sake of being different? There’s no need to make it purposely different. That kid is going to go through their whole life facing ‘oh you’re Juliet? But your named this? ‘ and then have to laugh it off each and every time. It’s annoying
Because they needed that strawman fallacy to justify their side. The fact that they all laughed or pulled faces at the name originally shows that they're full of shit.
@@jakebarrett7013op could have better gone about it though. Take them aside and say, "hey, you sure about that?" in a kind and gentle way. It's the doubling down and aggressiveness of op. I agree with op, but I don't think they went about it right.
I feel like with the first name, there’s so many chances for her to be potentially refused license, passport, travel will be difficult, her card could get snapped when trying to go out for drinks because it looks so fake. It isn’t even spelled phonetically. It looks like a child trying to make themself look more adult by being more complicated than necessary.
@@brendielahoohait’s not that they don’t “like the spelling” it’s that the spelling is so out of left field that they might be confused and think there’s some mistake. phonetically, the spelling of the name doesn’t work to make the j sound, so someone might think it’s a completely different name for a completely different person. my name is caitlin, and the first paycheck i ever received spelled it as caitlyn. i had to ask my boss to make me a new one and she had to void the previous one. it was very clear it was still meant for me, but sometimes there’s policies or it is going through a system and not a real person.
For the first story: Yes, it’s their kid, but it’s not like they’re naming a pet. That child will have to grow up and introduce themselves to teachers, dates, job interviews, etc. It’s easy to say that when everyone has normal names.
Seriously, I always tell people, give the weird names to your pets. It's their child, but the child is still their own person and has to live their own life with that name.
I agree! My name is "Kabria" and with work/employment/friends moving for my husband's job. It gets so crazy and I don't even try to correct people anymore. I just now have my preferred name as my last name. Name pets weird stuff, but each to their own, I guess.
The first story is very relatable to me An deceased older cousin of mine named her son ABCDE and boy you can imagine how difficult it was filing the paperworks. When my nephew started school he came back home the first day asking me why his name was spelled that way and that some kid asked if his mom was okay while she was naming him. He realized then that he couldn't do anything about his name on paper so he started introducing himself using a different name to others. He's 18 now and officially had his name changed from ABCDE to something common.
I had trouble spelling and reading as a kid. I can just imagine poor 5-8 year old ghiulivette crying over her school work, because her name is unnecessarily complicated. What is she happens to be dyslexic? That would be even more of a nightmare. I agree with OP.
i had a lot of trouble spelling my name as a kids because of my dyslexia, my name isnt uncommon and the spelling is “normal” too but since two letters dont necessarily need to be there, i always got so confused as a kid i cannot imagine what pain that child has to go through if she happens to be dyslexic too
"Ghiuliyette" and any ethnic/cultural names with rich histories are so different. Trying to be quirky and spelling a name differently can not possibly be equivalent to a parent naming a child a name from a culture that has genuine meaning and might just be hard for people to spell.
when the intention is to “fuck up” the name just because, the parents are the asshole. they named the kids for themselves and not for the baby. plain and simple lol, that kid will for sure 100% get bullied
A bully will find something else to bully them about. I have a normal name and I was bullied by an "Ashliegh". Instead of Ashley. The kid will be fine, people are just being dramatic.
I totally agree with you there. My first thought was actually that the kid wouldn’t be bullied for having that name, but for the fact that likely won’t even be able to spell their own name when they are young. Could you imagine trying to spell that name in elementary school? I had friends that had trouble spelling their 5-letter, commonly spelled names when they were that young. The OP could’ve gone about explaining things in a better way than just telling them they’re wrong, but the parents are just trying to make themselves feel special. I think both sides are kind of in the wrong, though I don’t think the OP would be if they had just voiced their thoughts in a better way. I’d like to know what the parents names are. If they truly think that is a good name for their kid and their names are spelled conventionally, they should have to legally change their names to the most ridiculous spelling that a judge can think of. At least then they might see what the kid is dealing with
exactly! it is that it's not like it's a unique name and so of course it has a unique spelling, and it's not that it's a typical name with just one or two letters being slightly different in order to be differentiated.. it's a typical name that is actually very well known but has almost twice as many letters added, some of which are not even phonetic. that is purely so that the parents feel like the name is unique even though it's not and that's absurd! And they keep bringing up other names that have difficult spellings and how it's not life ruining even though it's difficult, and while I agree that it doesn't ruin any lives it does make things unnecessarily difficult for that child simply so that those parents can have a unique spelling.
@@Poopypooppoop2 sounds to me like you didn't have the wits to respond with a simple "at leas me parents weren't so cracked out when they named me that they mixed up i and e - did they even graduate?"
the main thing that theyre missing with the first story is that yes, there are unique spellings for unique names all the time especially for other cultures, this isnt one of those cases. its clearly another old white lady wanting to feel special by naming her child something like Cymbeerleigh edit: thank you all for the support! im glad i wasnt the only one who felt this way about that story!
I met siblings named Queleigh and Quevin, pronounced Kay-leigh and Kevin. At least the spelling isn’t as ugly as whatever Ghouliette or however it was spelled.
Tbf, most of gen A have weird names, so amoung their peers of their own age it will be considered normal. We are still stuck in our old way of thinking about it.
I don't think Arasha understands the difference between a name being "difficult" because it's a cultural name and parents choosing to make the kids 'unique.' It doesnt carry the same validity there..parents cannot do whatever they want to just because it is their child.. that not correct 😂
This was my thought... I was surprised that she identified with that story in that way, and that this was one of the few stories she couldn't see both sides of at all.
yep. naming your child something stupid is 100% child abuse, and definitely not the AH for pointing it out. I think the spelling they suggest is sufficiently stupid as to be harmful, just switch to Julyette with a Y or something. I was definitely confused by their reaction to this.
Completely disagree. There a literally laws set in place to keep names from being vulgar and realistically names are names. People are named differently all the time. Reasoning doesn’t have to be there and trust me if this kid is gonna get bullied for their name they’re gonna get bullied regardless. Let parents name their kids what they want if it’s not vulgar who are we to judge?
@@Kamakazehsaying that name is stupid is exactly why kids get bullied in the first place for names. It’s genuinely childish behaviour to think that your opinion matters when a name directly connects a child to their parents. There are laws set in place to protect children from vulgar names and that is not one of them. Stop judging people’s harmless decisions based on bully’s and people who behave like shit in the world.
I love this comment. 😂 I do feel bad because she's going to have a LOT of kids asking how to her spell her name on repeat. That's annoying and awkward.
I once asked a customer for her name for a form and it was Aunesty - pronounced honesty. Naturally I just go with it because I'm just doing my job thing, but she clearly had a face and air of someone who knows their name is confusing and annoyed by it. I can't even imagine how this poor kiddo is going to feel about that ridiculous spelling.
The thing with the first name is that they are choosing to make their daughter’s life infinitely harder for their own satisfaction. It’s not like Arasha and Hardzei where it’s cultural or that’s the only way to spell it. From how they describe the mother in the story she’s just doing because she thinks it’s cute. Just because the mom has the right to name her baby whatever she wants doesn’t make it morally good.
that man child giving away her tickets, saying it's just a show and she should give it to his mother, it's crazy how entitled he is. without even asking! tf?
my birth name is aspen. my parents divorced when i was younger and as a result i went to 4 elementary schools and 2 middle schools. aspen isn’t a crazy name but when you’re also the new kid from a different town, kids will find anything to belittle you. by the second middle school i began going by my middle name nicole. i no longer associate with aspen as a result. really just a tip to parents, make the middle name the “different” name. and then use it as their nickname. could’ve saved a lot of pain if my names were switched.
Seriously! I feel like if kids have a more common first name and a unique middle name, they are probably more likely to like that unique name a lot and might even try out using it when they get older because they're getting to explore their uniqueness on their own terms.
YEP i went to school with a kid who went by Brady, his middle name. Turns out his first name was Heston, i was always baffled by the choice to make Heston the first name rather than the middle. Family tradition or not, of course he went by Brady instead
Naming your kid in the most absurd way you could possibly spell it in order for it to be ‘unique’ instead of just picking a unique name is what makes those parents the assholes. It gives off the same energy as people who have a favourite shade of beige.
😅 lol favorite shade of beige. I mean I kinda feel like Juliet or Juliette is a fairly unique name already. I named one of my pet snakes with the 2nd spelling because I have a vampire theme and the vampire I named Juliette after is spelled that way. I mean maybe it's a fairly popular name somewhere but I've never met anyone named Juliette 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah. Granted, I think the parents were trying to base it off of a more Italian spelling ("Giu" and "Ghiu" being a more Italian way to spell "Ju"), but throwing in a "y" near the end just completely ruins it by grafting on a very English twist in the worst spot. I say either keep it spelled the local way (assuming "Juliet" or "Juliette" if English-speaking), or fully commit to an Italian or other spelling. Where they went wrong was in trying to mash together two entirely different languages.
@DefectiveDictionary777 but if you put an h there in an italian spelling, the g wouldn't make the j sound, but the g (as in garden) sound. Ghoul-iette
Yeah. They mentioned names from other cultures being similar but those names usually have rules to how they're spelled, following the language they come from, but these made up names don't even make any sense. I think that's mainly the issue. You can be called Giuliette, that's an already existing name, but idk what that name was lol. It's not just a unique name, it's just a unique spelling for no reason.
I'm sorry but I can already see kids making fun of Ghiuliyette by making jokes of gillette (the razor) and where it may or may not be used. Cause let's face it, if people see that name, their initial attempt of pronouncing it would probably start with a 'G' sound, not a 'J' sound. Parents are the total AH for making little Ghiuliyette's life way more difficult than it would be.
I think another thing with the whole 'spelling a normal name in a weird way' is its an inherently selfish move. Its not for the child, its for the parent. The parent wants to show the world how cool and quirky and unique they are. IF they really cared about calling their kid Juliet they would just spell it that way so that everyone will also be able to call them by the name they have chosen. Also, its a lot easier for a kid to decide to spell their name differently, as their own choice later in life as an actual expression of their individuality, than to try and normalise a spelling. I know people who have gone from Charlotte to Charlie to Charleigh and it was all their choice, and that's how it should be.
States with stupid anti abortion laws aside, having kids is selfish. Parents do it for no other reason than because that's what they want. Parents all name their kids things that *they* want. I think the spelling is stupid, but stupid spellings are increasingly common (which is why thus obvious rage bait story exists 😂), so the idea that one kid with a weird spelling will have their life "ruined" is just bullshit.
@@EvieCorwell i dont think that the take is that crazy letting your friend know that the spelling is a bad idea but you never mess with parents she had also just given birth of course shes emotional
@@flip.2 What? Of course you "mess with parents". The fact that they're the parents doesn't give them the right to make their child's life more difficult for _no_ reason. They're choosing a "cute and unique" spelling of the name because _they_ like it, with no regard for how it'll affect the child growing up. The _only one_ thinking about the well-being of the child is OP, the parents aren't and neither are Shayne, Amanda and Arasha.
not saying i entirely disagree with you, because there are definitely people who treat their kids like this, as extensions of themselves rather than their own people. but i do think that some of these cases could be just "i thought it was such a pretty name". which is seemingly harmless, but the absurdity of certain names can affect the child's life, unfortunately
ohhhhh the hamilton one has me PISSED. AND it was lin's last performance????? AND her mom was so excited??? i was feeling legit tightness in my chest omfg
like shayne instead of shane in no way compares to ghiuliyette instead of juliette. that name is an administrative nightmare. honestly its not the bullying that worries me but the fact that this person will always have to struggle with their paperwork Edit: Juliet, Juliette, Julieta, Giulette, Giuletta are all fine versions of the name and they all make sense phonetically in the language they came from. And the point is not at all that people should stick to the english standard/common version to make it easier for them. I actually think than an angel looses their wings each time an immigrant has to anglecize their name to fit better in North America....But there is literally no reason to use ghiuliyette instead of any of the other version. It's not from any culture, it's not historical, not even a fictional character. It doesnt mean anything. The H and the Y serve no purpose. It's aesthetically ugly. The spelling is confusing and counter-intuitive. People will butcher it trying to read it and it will create complications with paperwork for no reason other than the because the parents wanted an unique name. Because they wanted of the vanity of being oh so creative, the child will live thru so much unnecessary hassle.
@@grewebeargoing from 6 letter name to a 11 letter “equivalent” is insane 😭 I have an unconventional y in my name (sofiya) and I always have to spell my name a couple times before someone gets it
@@grewebear in some places it is the common spelling, but in other languages besides English it is not. The Italian name is Giuliette/a. That is a real and typical name outside of English speaking countries.
that rendition of "Juliet" is absolutely cursed. It cant be explained why her name is spelled that way outside of the parents wanting to be "different". That child is going to be bullied to hell and back.
Seriously, and them blindly defending under the guise of “not your business so they can do whatever they want to that kid, stay out of it” is so infuriating, and their seemingly infinite egos to believe that “no no no, I’m right, this is offensive” is so patronizing. I genuinely love this channel and usually these 3, but this is ridiculous. That kid is going to deal with so many problems in life for the absolute sole reason of her parents wanted to be a bit unique. It’s selfish and will fundamentally change who that child grows up to be, like do they honestly believe there’s gonna be no difficulties as a child and learning to understand who you are with a name like that? At such an important age she’s gonna be struggling with how to even pronounce her own name by sounding it out. Let alone later in life, having to correct every single person she meets will get exhausting before she’s a teenager, let alone in her 40s. God arasha said that comment infuriated her, THEIR WHOLE CONVERSATION INFURIATED ME SO MUCH. Again, I usually love these guys, but they weren’t thinking rationally here. Those parents should be stopped asap and someone should have a long conversation with them about whether they had a child to love and care for, or one for a gimmick and conversation starter, because that has to be borderline abuse.
On the first story: It appears that Arasha, Amanda, and Shayne were all very fortunate to have avoided heavy bullying growing up. They don’t seem to be aware of how hard it can be. Names are one of the earliest ways bullying can begin. The kid will have no cultural reference to explain any sort of history or meaning behind their name. Indeed, it’s the opposite. It’s a complete bastardization of a well established name. Though, the name itself isn’t what bothers me. It’s the parent’s lack of awareness of the sorts of decisions that can impact their child socially. If they are this clueless about something as simple as a name, then this is likely only the first of many needless obstacles they are creating for their child. I agree with the teacher: it’s a red flag on the parents.
Yeah they're talking about how kids don't need a reason to bully other kids. Yeah but don't give them even more of a reason the second they're born. And then they need to carry that joke of a name with them until adulthood when they can finally change it and go no contact with these borderline abusive parents
Bullying will comes in all shapes and forms and having this type of name, it will just add more fuel. I'm childfree and have no interest in kids, but these parents are selfish af. They treat their kids as a toy, not a real human being that will grow up and have feelings. Their whole atitude was upsetting.
@@nathanellis622 I don’t think that’s the issue. Adults are better equipped to deal with this than children. They can choose to change their name, or they can choose to crusade against society’s prejudices on uniquely spelled names, as Arasha seems prepared to do. However, it’s unfair to put that burden on young children who are a long way from being able to grasp the social context and complexities that would prepare them to fight these battles. For so many things, children don’t have a choice and rely on having aware parents that can make good choices for them. What the parents need to understand is that children are not pets. A dog doesn’t care what its name is; it’s irrelevant to dog socialization. Human children have to learn to navigate very complex human social interactions, and a name is a big part of that. Parents shouldn’t needlessly be making it harder to integrate socially, especially at such a young age. There are so many better ways to enable your child to be a unique and memorable person than butchering the spelling of common names. Give your child access to experiences and opportunities that make them a more interesting person. I feel like there’s a lot of overlap between people that name their children this way and people that hang “Live, Laugh, Love” signs in their house.
As someone with a weirdly spelled name, I wholeheartedly think the person in the first story is not the asshole. If someone is going to name their child, a name that is going to make their child's life more difficult, someone should tell them
I mean, why not just name her daughter Giulia. It's a unique but still understandable way to spell the name Julia. Plus, it's a seriously badass car. She's still in the wrong, it's not her kid, but it's an objectively stupid way to spell it. And the teacher is spot on when he said they're going to be difficult parents %100
exactly. you could even do it like Giuliette if they wanted to keep the same sound of the name. theres literally no reason for it to have any h's or y's
I don't see how she is wrong besides how she went about it. The sentiment is right and she is trying to be a good friend by telling her the truth. I don't know how it was communicated but the point isn't wrong and communicating it isn't wrong depending upon your culture (in mine it is our job to tell them).
For the first story- Sometimes new parents forget that they are naming a person that will one day be a full fledge adult. Get a pet if you wanna give something a unique name.
Honestly I get where they were coming from trying to defend unique spellings especially because a lot of immigrant parents spell their kids name phonetically, but this is ridiculous and an intentional choice to make it “unique”
HARD agree also Arasha said that she had a problem with top comment's use of the word normal then went on to say normal just means recent. Okay but that is what is normal for today... you arent disagreeing with the usage of the word. You might not like something being called normal because you dont fall within it(speaking from experience) but that doesnt mean that it isnt the NORM which is where normal comes from
@@BlackDragon-uq1wyexactly! It was not stated if the parents were from a different ethnic background so I assume they're just white. Not that white people can't name their child "uniquely", that never stopped all the Keyleighs from existing. But come one they knew what they were doing to their child.
Arasha and Amanda were completely wrong about the name story. Kids are cruel and they will make fun of anything that is a difference. That poor kid will be absolutely miserable in middle school because of all the bullying. The bullies won’t think about challenging the idea of why names have to be spelled a certain way while they’re putting gum in Ghiuliyette’s hair. There’s probably about a 98% chance that girl’s name is Juliet the instant she turns 18.
For the first story: I have a very common name for women born in the 90's. Theres about 8 normal spellings, 20 uncommon spellings, and 150+ registered ways its been spelled. Its *obnoxious* I was in a class once in high school with 8 other Katelyns, and we ALL had a different spelling. 2 of the girls had standardized testing messed up because of it. I had a friend who it took forever to get her passport because somehow her social security card and birth certificate had her name spelled different ways! I've had my taxes missfiled! That woman is absolutely not the asshole.
exactly exactly that name will one hundred percent be misspelled most of the time. its gonna create so many unnecessary administrative problems for her in her adult life
Oh hey, my name is Caitlyn! Not a single person gets it right the first time. Always tries to put down a K. Than either an e or a y for the I. Or puts an I than tries to put down another I where the y is supposed to be. Than once we get to the end some people add the extra n Oh ya and not a si gle person in my FAMILY knows how to spell my name properly So I agree, the name thing is dumb, it's far easier to go with most common spelling for names or you have to try and correct every single person you meet
👋 One of 6 Madison's in my grade alone in my rural ass town. 4 in the grade above, 7 below. I have always wanted to go by my middle name and wasn't allowed to until college. I only wish I could've done it sooner.
I have a very unique last name at least here in the states where I’m from it’s pretty common, but whenever anyone has tried to pronounce it, they have gone so far off that I’d get headaches, the more they tried
Two things can be true at once. The first story person can be right in their judgement of how the kid is gonna suffer bc of their name but also be wrong in how insistent and rude they were in telling the parents to change the kids name
Yeah, the OP there had a point and wasn't intrinsically wrong for bringing it up, but they went about it the wrong way, from the wrong angle, and were too dogged about it to ever have gotten the response they were after
This! Especially with how they keep pushing. Sure, as a friend you can give your opinion unasked for sometimes out of genuine care. But you have to do it in the right way. This person clearly didn't. It's not even about if they're right or wrong, it's about how they did it.
Full disagree on Amanda, my cousin got stuck with a dumbass name despite the entire family warning about it and I feel so bad she's not old enough to get it changed yet.
Also the whole "they can just change it later if they don't like it" irked me because changing your name isn't an easy or cheap process, I've heard it's easier if you're getting married, but that definitely isn't the case for kids with stupid names like that
@@ecoonrad4753 It’ll also be harder on them if they’re listed on other official documents under their birth name, like a will. They can prove that they are them, but it requires more time and paperwork. And that’s AFTER the time and paperwork (and money!) the change takes up!
okay, the fact that the dude's mom asked the girl if she still is going to give her hamilton tickets away AFTER THE WRITER STRAIGHT UP SAID SHE DIDN'T KNOW THAT HER BOYFRIEND SAID SHE WOULD GIVE THE TICKETS AWAY is MIND BLOWING. MIND BLOWING. i'm sorry....WHAT? I would break up with that man so fast not only because of the tickets but also because of HOW THE PARENTS ACTED. WOW. im still in shock
For the first story, the friend was an asshole for pushing it past the parent’s STATED boundary. BUT, her point of how their child will likely be bullied for having such a weirdly spelled name and OP’s intention of preventing that from happening is a fact. Intentions were good, act of pushing past boundary was not. Being bullied is not fun. Please try not to romanticise it like how “but it’s all cool when you grow up.” It is a really tough thing to go through.
Naming your child a keyboard smash doesn't get to be a boundary, sorry not sorry. You're using psychology terms without knowing what they mean. A boundary is a line you set for YOURSELF. Being rightfully questioned about your choices regarding other human beings is not breaking "boundaries".
One thing that you guys didn’t touch on during the Hamilton story, was the fact that the family refused to even entertain the idea to buy the tickets when they can easily afford them. Maybe there is a reason the sister is as miserable as she is. They only cared to get them for her when they were 'free', and not when it was something they had to put effort into. Also families/cultures that dislike therapists tend to have a big thing on public image, so they might only care because they told a lot of people about the tickets in the first place.
Yeah I caught that too. Like he bought a watch that was more expensive just for himself. His whole family is rich and couldn't split the cost amongst themselves for Jen? Jen is probably miserable because her parents and brother don't care enough about her.
I thought they did mention that. I swear I heard Shayne say something about how they didn’t care about making the daughter happy. They only cared about getting the tickets for free and they could have afforded it.
As a kid who grew up in a family like this you are SPOT ON for the public image part. All they care about is looking good for their friends, they don't actually care how much their kid hates them and they don't bother to support the kid when it comes to their emotions. They don't believe in therapy because if other families knew you were in therapy it made your parents look bad and we can't have that now can we. I will say I never hated my parents but I hated the way they raised me and my mum would always say to others "I don't know why she hates me so much" right after telling me my anxiety and depression was all in my head and that instead I needed to grow up (that's their idea of support, and there were other things about her parenting that also made me a little grumpy towards her). My parents are completely different now and we actually have an amazing relationship but it's not because they "bought" my love like this family is trying to do, it's because they realised they needed to start genuinely caring. A child/teen is very socially intelligent (almost too perceptive to the point where it causes anxiety), and they can easily pick up on when you don't actually care about what they're saying.
I kinda feel like maybe they can’t afford them. I know a few families who are “house rich” meaning big houses, expensive clothes, once a year nice vacations. But this means they can’t afford to go to the movies or out to eat randomly. Sometimes there’s debt, sometimes not. I mean people make different choices but I’d rather have more disposable cash to do fun stuff, personally.
I'm glad that Story 2's OP still HAS the tickets and they weren't taken from her. Even though she's gotta deal with the bad attitudes of her boyfriend's family, I'm so glad she still has the tickets and they weren't physically given away/ sold without her knowing.
Same I was panicking thinking somehow he stole them or worked at the venue and somehow magically transferred them lol idrk how that works but I was devastated for her. Her mom sounds like such a sweetheart and was so excited!! My sisters and I bought my mom Hamilton tickets to go with my dad and she still talks to me about how much she loved the show and was thankful we got her tickets. I can’t imagine if someone had taken my mom’s tickets it would’ve broken her damn heart
I was worried he'd gotten a hold of her account and transferred them! Touring Hamilton tickets were the most expensive tickets I've bought. Let alone Lin Manuel Miranda's FINAL PERFORMANCE.
Having a unique name growing up was super hard but mine was cultural i couldn’t imagine being given a hard name just because you want your parents wanted to be different. she was right cause the amount of bullying on my name alone was crazy
For the first story with the name being spelled like that, in various countries in the world you'd be banned for naming your kid like that, due to causing possible future trauma.
@@DrDinoNuggies There are plenty countries ar. world that dont accept "strange" names including weird spelling of "normal" name on birth certificate, or at least you need to ask for special approval first.
Yeah during this story I was really glad that I live in germany where you can't really do those weird spellings... like you can't name your child Frankenstein. Even with weird spellings you can have trouble with the burocrates that have to agree with the name which sometimes is overbearing but it's also very difficult to completly change your name when grown up only with good reasons
Even choosing ONE of the alternative spellings would be great. Like Giuliette follows real orthography (compare to Giulia). Juliyette is a little quirky but not to the degree that you're just adding every single letter you can. I mean the entire progress of (Juliet -) Juliette - Juliyette - Giuliyette - Ghiuliyette is A LOT
I think they kind of misrepresented the topic in their discussion as they seemed to be fighting the idea of kids having to always have their name spelt a “standardised” way despite cultural backgrounds but I think the issue is more when names are changed for the sake of being different or unique. It’s just unnecessarily confusing and seems like you are worried your child won’t be special so feel the need to try and pack in as much uniqueness as possible. I agree with them however on cultural names where the “standardised” way is the anglicised way of spelling it like the italian spelling vs english spelling.
HE BOUGHT HIM A B3 ORGAN JUST FOR THAT SHOW??? For those of you that don’t know how significant that is, the B3 is one of the most iconic and sought after instruments ever made. I’ve rarely seen one listed for under 3k
I looked into the 'paying wife for sex' thread on reddit. OP said it all started with her being super happy about a gift, that wasn't even the most expensive he gave her. Turns out he usually gives her things she doesn't care about and that time he gave her something that showed he paid attention to her (socks she used to get, but are no longer made that he got off eBay). So, I feel like Shayne was right and communication was needed, because it probably wasn't just the money that turned her on. Also, the fact OP has the emotional depth of a teaspoon isn't helping.
I highly disagree with the cast on the first story. There’s a HUGE difference between naming your kid a name from your country than taking a normal name and spelling it wrong on purpose. Because in that country, it’s a normal name for that country and culture. Changing the spelling is just for the parents to show off how “unique and quirky” they are, and will cause multiple issues for the child. I feel bad for that little girl because holy shit.
And also they're not and probably were never teachers or educators for that matter. From my experience, the kid who had the "Anglicanized" name spelled in a weird or awful way didn't like their name and usually had a nickname or was called by a shorter/easier name and that was it.
Exactly. Maybe they've spent too many years in LA and are used to hollywood people giving their kids awful names. It's definitely one thing if it's from another county. Like if it's Giulia because they're Italian. But randomly choosing an awful spelling to be unique is just child abuse
the cast never argued about that tho. they even clearly said it's a different thing. what they're saying op is wrong for is that they doubled down for something that really doesn't affect them at all
@@lankyalpaca They did seem offended that the opinion, and that of the Redditors was unsolicited by the parents. I'm on the fence about that - while I agree that people should, for the most part, keep their unsolicited opinions to themselves, these parents are idiots and are intentionally opening their child to years of bullying, as well as a lifetime of of administrative/paperwork related woes, and a never-ending cycling eyerolling at their very nonsensical given name.
Yah, SMOSH got it wrong on the name situation. A cultural name is completely different than just screwing up a basic name to feel “special”. It’s been proven that potential employers will bypass a name spelled ridiculously for a job. If you want to be unique, choose a name based on your ethnicity/heritage.
Yeah, there's a lot of leeway for creativity with names, but there's still a limit. _Giulet_ or _Giuletta_ would be fine, because they're not THAT different and are evoking the Italian spelling of the name. Likewise for something like _Juliyette_ . A bit cringy but still easy enough to read. _Ghiuliyette_ is about 2-3 steps too far, and is just making your child's life unnecessarily difficult. It's not going to outright RUIN their life (probably/hopefully) but even in the best case scenario it's going to be adding in little pitfalls to their daily existence for no good reason. You'll be forcing almost every new interaction where they introduce themselves to be about three times more complicated and awkward then it needs to be. What these parents chose was the equivalent of Shayne's name being spelt like _Xyainn_ or something.
They were making light of it and joking naturally about the name in the beginning but eventually switched on their LA woke "must accept everything or else were dicks" mentality honestly
Ayrechhuh and Uhmanduhr are so right. Ghuliette Mharya is never gonna be looked at like she has a fake passport, fake ID or fake Drivers License ever anywhere in the world. Its totally quirky and oh so necessary. /s
@@sevansnake369 did you also miss the point of the comment? lol regardless of what they say about whats normal or isnt or should you even give an opinion on the name etc... the fact is that the name is still spelled stupidly and it most likely will cause issues in the life of that person in one way or another. a weird spelling doesnt make a name unique if its pronounced the usual way. if you name your kid eahmeellie and say its pronounced emily... is it really unique or just stupid? lets be real
Y’all, Lin’s final performance in Hamilton was ALSO Leslie and Pippa’s final performance…the energy in that room was electric. I’m glad that OP and her mom got to be there; they deserve it. Screw brunch boy
Real. If I had gotten to see that I just know it would’ve been the best experience of my life. So glad OP and her mom got to go
I don’t know what any of this means but it sounds like the ideal happy ending. I’m glad for them standing their ground.
@@jac0736 Lin, Leslie, and Pippa all are the original actors that play the three major leads in the show (Alexander Hamilton, Aaron Burr, and Elizabeth "Eliza" Schuyler-Hamilton respectively). It's a pretty big deal, so it's super ideal that they didn't give up the tickets. I very much envy them lol
Bro I almost skipped the whole story because I was so pissed off. Glad I saw this but now I'll have to listen to it for the happy ending😭
Really? Wow I’m so happy for them!
Dude. That Hamilton story. The relief I felt knowing she still has the tickets. My heart was RACING.
I had to pause and come back in 10 minutes. I was CRUSHED! so glad she was still able to go with her mom ❤
YES!!! Im like screw that because how the hell would the boyfriend see how happy she was and SEEN the text between girlfriend and moms excitement to then suddenly go call his sister and telling her "yo I got you tickets to Hamilton" LIKE EXCUSE ME!!
No fr I was about to be sick 😭
@@CozoMicroyeah that whole story gave me a visceral reaction it was so bad 😭😭
I thought he nabbed the tickets and gave BOTH of them away, I was SO STRESSED
I think Arasha's closing argument in the first story is completely valid and I agree with in isolation, but it has nothing to do with parents making their child's name super difficult to spell for no reason, this isn't a cultural name, it's just a weirdly spelled name for the sake of being different.
My thoughts exactly if it’s from another culture absolutely you shouldn’t change the spelling. But if it’s just to be quirky no you should not change the spelling
@@poperman3208 You can even be quirky within reason, Juliette, Giuliette, Julieta... Those are all valid, non ridiculous variations of the name.
I think not seeing that abomination of a name written down might have made it sound less ridiculous for them.
@@nina9565 they saw the name.
@@nina9565Just one thing, Julieta isn't a quirky spelling. It's how it's spelled in Spanish speaking or Portuguese speaking countries. I guess it would be a quirky spelling if someone who wasn't from any of those cultures picked that one.
EXACTLYYYYY
10:30 I understand Arasha’s and Amanda’s take on the first story, OP made an unwarranted opinion, fair enough, but imo I think some parenting behaviour needs to be called out. There are parents that do name their children like they’re naming their pet dog or car because it’s “cute,” “unique,” and “quirky” without considering how it’s going their child’s life as they get older. Maybe if they were named differently they would understand. Objectively, the spelling is tedious and the child is going to have a hard time spelling it out for others and correcting people how to pronounce it.
yeah - i understand in a way! my mother was pressured by my grandparents not to choose names she really liked for ME because they were very conservative and thought they were too wierd. but the difference there is that they were seen as strange for being uncommon/androgynous/gaelic - not because of unconventional or strange spellings. theres no way other kids wont eventually see her name written out and say shit 😭
i honestly skipped over most of the first story but being friends with someone for 17 years at only 21-22 isn’t a run of the mill friendship. that’s the exact type of bluntness i would want from someone i’ve known that long.
I’m so glad someone did notice and mention this. I would absolutely mention and badger my best friend if I felt like she was gonna commit a tragediegh
There's a difference between a name that's unique because it's not western or english and a common english name being spelt with purposely butchered spelling as a way to feel special. It's about context. It's a weird almost red flag to give your kid a name that's ridiculous on purpose with no care for the child's feelings. It's not the same as a traditional/foreign name.
Yeah chosing a more difficult life for your kid to feel quirky is bad parenting and literally illegal in most countries.
Yeah going have to go with AH for the smosh cast on this. I still love them just saying their examples of their names and such are not really valid and, sorry to put it this way, they are not young so they can't go by their experiences.
Yeah, they made it personal when it’s way worse than their experiences! (Except the 2nd woman’s husband’s with his name which should have been taken more seriously.)
The thing is I think the cast saw this name as a cultural/traditional/foreign name and that we should respect such names. Which I totally agree with! There are so many cultures, traditions, ethnic groups and they surely have their own customs, names, spellings.
HOWEVER, this is not the case. In the first story it's probably a white couple who wants their kid's nam to be quirky, funny, outstanding. Sorry but you're bringing trauma to this kid. And then the cast's reasoning is being that kids will always find something to bully you about? That's a tone-deaf thing to say tbh.
Sure, but it’s not about whether or not OP was correct for their opinion, it’s about whether or not they were the asshole. And OP was both probably correct and the asshole. She literally harassed the parents and went out of her way to make sure her opinion was heard multiple times even after it was made clear, the opinion was not wanted. OP could have handled this in so many better ways, and once the parents expressed their disagreement, OP needed to drop it, period.
my favorite shakespeare play, Rhomaeyoh and Ghiuliyette
I genuinely thought the problem was gonna be she's calling her daughter Juliette when she already has a son called Romeo
Murkoosheeyo is one of my favorite characters.
@@HerSandinessto this day I still feel bad for Rohzalyhne
The Khapphyoullattessss and the Maouwnntayghiuuuezzhs
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Elementary School Teacher here. The teacher in the replies is 100% right about unique spellings being directly correlated to problem parents. Consistent behavior issues with most of those kids, and unsupportive, permissive parenting.
I'm kind of shocked that the whole segment on this was mainly based on parental rights as opposed to the actual welfare of the kids. I'm not saying for sure that the name even would cause them to be bullied, but Smosh was prioritizing the wrong things in my opinion.
Yes my name is Saadia I struggled extremely to learn how to write and read my name and was bullied for having a weird name I also had teachers pronounce my name wrong on purpose even after being corrected just to be mean
@saadialopez2447 That is a beautiful name. Don't change it and it's not hard to pronounce
It's crazy when you can tell things like that in advance based on some seemingly arbitrary detail. It makes me think about when I was waiting tables at a steakhouse, and a lady I worked with who had been around for years said that you could predict how well a table would tip based on how they had their steak cooked. The more rare the better the tip, the more well done of course, the lower the tip. It's almost across the board true. Like unbelievably accurate.
As someone who's been a kid and been a teacher, that poor kid has a ALOT of bullying ahead of her, "but bullies would find other things" yeah and handing them more bullets doesn't help. Kids are RUTHLESS.
I was bullied for my name. My teachers would mispronounce it all the time and my bullies would purposely say my name wrong in my ear to annoy me. If I have a kid, I'm saving them the headache of "unique" names.
100% true, literally said the same thing you did in another reply. There’s a difference between simply throwing someone into shark-infested waters and throwing someone into shark-infested waters having dumped countless buckets of chum into the water beforehand.
Yeah, that poor girl is gonna be "Ghouliette" all the way through school.
Like, what?? But bullies will find other thi gs to bully her? Like it gives of the energy as we all die someday, so lets just burn the clothes im wearing for shits and giggles. Just because it will happen doesn't mean you should or even be justified to enhance the process. Like bullying is no light matter and saying yeah its not going change anything bc pff children will bully you anyway is crazy. Like how about preventing it beforehand LIKE YOU HAVE THE POWER AND THE CHOICE, do not choose to make your childs life harder just bc you think you want to be kwuriey (quirky)... Omg
No way, you've been a kid before?!
All bullying and problems with other people aside, poor 5 year old kindergartner Ghiuliyette is gonna have to try to spell that on all of her papers for school.
😂😂😂
LOL, the best point.
That being said, she may end up getting ahead because of it.
Or like. Turns out the girl has dyslexia. Lol
It won't even fit onto the papers for the first couple of years
So I know this is a joke, but my sibling has a tough to spell name, and they just spelled it phonetically in school. They only started spelling it correctly later in life for Id and documents
The Juliet one, my moms a teacher and I can tell you that little girl is gonna struggle with her own name so much when learning how to read and write, that's not cultural or anything it's just a pain😭
the OP is not the AH the parents are idiots. It's not a cultural thing at all it's their need to be different, so much so that it will follow this girl for the rest of her life. Teachers deal with this all the time. Yes, it's okay for the OP to give her opinion especially if it's to educate the parents on what they are setting their child up for in the future.
Highschool teacher here. The top comment is absolutely correct. Obscure spellings are not that common; but the three cases I've taught have all changed their names as soon as they hit 18. To clarify, we don't mean names that are from different cultures, or names that have multiple spellings (like John and Jon), but names where the parents intention was to make their kid 'stand out' more so than actually naming them. The two schools I've taught at also do keep a close watch on these students/their parents as, everytime so far, these parents have been 'karen-types' who complain to the school and blame us for their kids doing poorly on assessments.
This "uniquex spelling is ridiculous. They've basically named their kid "Ghouly Yeet"
@@ViridianFlow Honestly, knowing how highschool students are, all it will take is for one teacher to read their name as "Ghoul-" during role call for the classmates to start calling her Ghoul.
Yeah, there is a HUGE difference between having a culturally different name vs. some random misspelling of the original name just for the sake of being unique.
That is straight up parents wanting to be quirky and not realizing their child is a person
Exactly this. There was a comment made about challenging naming conventions and breaking the mold and that's all fine and dandy... When you're making those decisions for yourself. It's a completely different story when you experience strife over a decision made for you when you were born.
Regarding names, I want to say this: there’s a difference between naming your child with a name that’s common in your culture/language vs a name that’s already common but spelled differently bc you want to be “quirky and new”
I swear these parents forget they're not just naming babies but adults
Juliet is a beautiful name, spelling does not make your child special
When you name your child, you’re naming a baby, a child, an adult and an old person. People seem to forget that
Asian people coming in Europe who have weird names are obligated to choose a "normal" name
I agree thank you!
I salute the Hamilton Tickets lady for not committing murder. Breaking up is the kindest reaction I could think of.
FOR REAL. I would be so so so so so mad
Oh, he's certainly lucky- I'd have broken up with him, and have reported him to his hire-ups for theft/non-consensual bargaining. Or sued.
Arasha and Amanda’s reaction during that story is everything and how I reacted.
If your boyfriend calls you a c-u-next-tuesday for standing up to him because he tried to STEAL YOUR THEATER TICKETS, that’s more than a “dump him” situation. That’s a “nuke every last trace of your relationship because this is a psycho” situation. WTF.
No that’s a, “no officer, I was not at the dump, I was in my home watching friends” kind of response
What baffles me the most is the fact he DIDNT do the simplest part and ASK her. Instead, he went out of his way to promise someone something he doesnt have, then hide it up until the very end when he has the Audacity to tell his family in front of her. LOL wtf. He could have at any point asked her !!! How do you expect your gf to take away her present from her OWN mother and give away thousands of dollars for your sis unknowingly WHILE he’s the one filthy rich. & then the family backing him up like yep!!! Hes in the right! He stole your present from your family but its ok bc its now benefitting us!!!
@@jl7662 Because he knew exactly what he was doing. He knows that his girlfriend loves her mom, and that she wouldn't give those tickets up if he asked directly
So he decided to spring this on her as she was meeting his parents for the first time, so she wouldn't be able to say no (or atleast that's what he expected)
That's the misconception we have about rich assholes, they aren't oblivious to the wants and needs of people below their station. They're just entitled enough to think their convenience takes precedence
I'm really hoping she erased herself from the narrative, letting future redditors wonder how he reacted when she broke his heart.
Honestly, as a man, if your bf calls you that at all, no matter the circumstances, dump him. 100% no doubt.
Given that Hamilton-girl's bf's family are already harassing her, I kinda feel like kindest thing for the sister is for OP to contact her directly and explain the situation, *including* the fact that there are available tickets that are in her family's price range, and instead of buying her something that would make her very happy they are trying to *steal* something they could easily buy themselves. And express sympathy for her having to deal with these exhausting people her whole life.
I had a similar thought, as Jen most definitely would benefit from connection with people who Actually care for her.
Its been a while since since Ive felt the need to throw out some personal insults, but as soon as it was revealed that Jens parents actually berated the OP for not succumbing to the saddistic manipulation by the scumbag of a boyfriend, it was clear why the little sister smokes, is depressed, etc. - her family consists of narcissistic assholes.
Hopefully she has gotten out of that hell after all these years, and I dont usually indulge in this kind of shit, but I fr can agree: Justice for Jen!
She could even play a "Uno reverse" card and tell the little sister something like: "So sorry, but there was a mix up: you see, your brother never told me that he expected me to give you my tickets, and I actually bought these as a gift for my mother. But don't worry: I spoke with your parents at dinner tonight and they said that they will buy you your own ticket to attend! I told them that the prices are a bit high right now because of resellers, but they said that they can afford it and that they would spare no expense to bring a smile back on your face after the though period you've being going through, and your brother promised to also pitch in to make this happen!"
Then sit back and let them either be the bad guys or cough up the cash.
@@princevesperal genius!
@@princevesperal sounds like a good idea in theory, but in reality the main victim would be Jen. she would just be lying to the poor girl and giving her (possibly) false hope *again.* judging by this family’s behaviour, this would not make them pay for new tickets - if they’re refusing to send Jen to therapy, and think it’s okay to speak to OP like that i don’t think they care that much about admitting to her that they’re not gonna buy those tickets.
"Do not tell them how to raise their children" assumes that parents always know how to best care for a child; as a teacher I've had to file enough abuse or negligence reports with CPS to know that's certainly not true.
Is it not a parents responsibility to treat their children correctly? Sure but obviously having a child doesn't magically turn them geniuses, they should work towards learning how to parent, and naming your child something non conventional is not abuse.
I believe that. As a mom, I don’t react well when people criticize my parenting; but as a victim of childhood abuse and neglect, I wish people would have stepped in more on my behalf. Many tried but it persisted all through my young life, and it’s the reason I no longer speak to my mother and keep my dad at a distance. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out if someone is making bad decisions as a parent, even if you don’t fully understand the context of their home situation. Thank you for standing up for children.
@@nuyynuyy In cases like the above, yes it is. Just like how it's abuse to make children do things like participate in youtube videos and pressuring them into scenarios they don't want to be a part of. That child will be bullied every year of school, will have employers ignore their applications, and will have their mental health suffer. All for the ego of the parents.
Children are people, not tools for a parent's amusement. Doing something intentionally or negligently that will negatively affect the life of a child is abuse.
@@Evelyn-qt3hi
Or she could just go by "Julie"
@@nuyynuyy yes it is
Hamilton ticket story: since they were only dating for 2 months, it makes since that the boyfriend didn’t show any red flags. Many abusive partners are first very sweet and kind in the beginning, but further down the line they start relaxing and let their bad/controlling side show, expecting their partner just accept this.
Yeah fr.. I'm relieved she could realize it this early and leave that guy (also really glad she got to watch the show with her mom, I felt genuinely SO happy for them
@@justignoremyusername yeah, he definitely showed her what kind of person he is early on. And he did it in such an extreme way that she couldn't simply convince herself that everything was fine. I shudder to think what he's capable of if this is how he treats someone he's just started dating
@@tickledtoffee Yes, it's terrifying to think that was only like the beginning, I'm glad that there was no time for him to show how worse he could get
@@justignoremyusername exactly! People like this can and do destroy lives
I’ve always hated the “Don’t tell parents how to treat their kids” mentality because it just allows parents’ shitty behavior. You shouldn’t be afraid to call parents out if their actions seem harmful. Someone should’ve told my parents how to act.
Exactly. Preventing bad parenting isnt "overstepping boundaries". Its a priviledged take from someone with good parents.
Yes, this is why child abuse is so incredibly common, because we view children as property and not people.
This. I don’t get how people act like the act of childbirth turns both parents into child development geniuses. There are maternal instincts but besides that they haven’t gained any new information just by the child coming into existence. There are SO many books on parenting for a reason. Your kid should not be a trial and error experiment
The person did.. And the thing is, it is enough
Yes, but it would be a stretch to call the parents’ actions in the first story “harmful”. It would be one thing if they were abusive to the child, but I think the child could make the decision for themselves if they want to be called something else in school and then perhaps change their name legally later on. I really think the OP of that story was overstepping their bounds. Maybe suggest to the parents once that they change the name, but to be so insistent is kinda weird
It's interesting that they all unanimously agreed that people should be more accepting of unique names, but they literally joked about calling the girl in question, Ghirardelli, Goo-lette, and Gillette. They're quite actually proving the OP's point, and it seems like they're perpetuating the problem they're trying to fight against. Just an observation.
self awareness isn’t something those two have
@@brwnkd3795 yep seems so
@@brwnkd3795Yeah they aren't very consistent and as mature as they think (having viewed some other Smosh takes), especially in contrast to other reddit channels like Mark Narrations or Lost Genre who are more thoughtful and clearly have more life experience under their belt.
Lmao yes and then she said “there’s a price to pay for a unique name”. Don’t they listen to themselves?
There is a clear difference between cultural names and intentionally misspelled names, though.
I think the most underrated part of this show is being able to hear the crew absolutely lose it sometimes. It truly brings me joy to hear them having fun.
"I'd watch that show" was perfection
I absolutely need to know who that laugh at 46:10 came out of 😆😭
@@magickaldust1213 That was definitely Kiana
The first story was kind of weird for them to not be able to grasp. The OP is an AH for pushing it past a certain point but the parents are AH for naming their kids like that. Arasha is comparing having a culturally unique name to a very common name spelled entirely randomly.
My name is "Raul" people had problems with even just that, but it's a very common Hispanic name. Now if my parents had gone and named me "Rahuewl" that would be awful.
exactly. I have a baby that is named Gianina , we made it with one in instead of two so it would be easier to read.
Yeah, I wonder what Arasha's opinion would have been if her name was spelled Ahrawshua instead.
100% agreed. It's one thing to be different but normal within your own community (like with Arasha or Amanda's husband) and to be constantly "othered" for something you've come to identify as. Being like "yeah, it's Raul, it's Spanish" is worlds away from "yeah, it's Ghiuliyette, my parents are assholes"
You're right, I think it's an ESH too. OP had valid concerns but it's ultimately not her problem, especially not for her to keep pushing it. But the parents overreacted as well, like were they high when they came up with that name or something?? Cuz that name just looks pretentious af and over-the-top for no good reason.
I would get it, if it was a change to the phonetic spelling but that name was not phonetic
"Why is your name spelled like that?"
"Because my parents wanted to feel special"
They should have really gotten a dog or bought a doll instead. Call those whatever they like.
The first story has an update where OP apologizes and is reinstated as godparent because the friend agrees the spelling might be crazy, but her husband still wants OP out. Wild that they didn’t include it because I’m pretty sure the update was available early on, but I could be wrong.
Thank you for this comment, I went to go read the update as a result of this.
lmao that makes the OP seem like even less of an asshole. Also as someone who had shit parents, 100% you are allowed to judge other parents
Might be the time frame in which they filmed it.
Godparents are there as a guide for the child. Yes, OP can comment on what they think is beneficial to the child.
It depends on the filming date
For the first story, there's a difference between cultural/"ethnic" names, stylistic choices in spelling, and whatever is going on with "Ghiuliyette." Arasha and Amanda are absolutely right about uncommon/cultural names. Those names have meanings and should absolutely be respected. Stylistic choices should also be respected, such as spelling variations (e.g. "Shane" vs "Shayne" or "Sarah" vs "Sara"). The difference between the examples I gave and "Ghiuliyette" vs "Juliet" is that Shayne and Sara are still very obviously Shane and Sarah. "Ghiuliyette" isn't even phenetic. It's just a pain in the ass.
Yeah, for real.
Yes exactly this should be the top comment!!!! If she named the kid Giuliana or something that would be no problem, it’s other ppl’s issue if they can’t learn how to spell a less common version of the name or if they’re ignorant enough to fuss over such a simple thing.
But the mom very obviously just wanted to be quirky and different and spell it as confusing as possible which definitely is an asshole move towards her daughter who will have no chance of anybody ever recognizing what sort of spelling she uses.
@@endeavor1664hell, "giuliette" is right there too 😭
@@sillylittlecourtjester yes sorry that’s what I meant lol that is a real variation of the same name lol thank u for adding that 😭
Phonetic
She's a GRAPHIC DESIGNER! PROFESSIONALLY! OF COURSE she knows! The flyer, the menus, it's all fake, and she's a legend.
I checked the OP's Reddit page, and I'm 99% sure this is a shitpost, if it isn't it's definitely a ruse on OP.
@@MMorangatang yeah, story is definitely made up, that dude is a 24/7 redditor
@@MMorangatangok but its also extremely funny so we can pretend
Yup, I totally agree!! I immediately thought shes A LOT smarter than he thinks and TOTALLY knows he's lying so she's creating this "shit your pants" situation for him and laughing the entire time!!! 😂😂😂Legend, truly
As someone who bonds with my mom over musicals together the Hamilton thing- breaking up is the least selfish response humanly possible
Im glad the comments section is against them on the first story.
Naming your child something unique is fine. Butchering a basic common name just to have a unique SPELLING, that doesn't even make any sense phonetically, isn't
Im not even against name your kid Apple or something
Like every name is made up
But that's nothing like name them ×¥₩÷× to be unique
Exactly, my first thought upon seeing the name “Ghiuliyette” without knowing it’s supposed to be Juliet would be to pronounce it like “Ghoul-ee-yet” because English phonetics have taught me that anytime a word has a “g” and “h” together it should be pronounced with the long G or “guh” sound
@@TheJunmengoyeah it's like "We named our kid Xchdgd pronounced Xavier" THEN JUST NAME YOUR FUCKING KID XAVIER
@@Greevheattakthey want to be different so bad not knowing its going to shit on the kid in the future💀
also they're going to have to write this silly ass name on every test they take lol that takes time
Sorry but what kind of psycho's first thought after reading cute texts between his gf and her mom being excited about a show is to GIVE THE TICKETS THEY HAVE TO THAT SHOW TO SOMEONE ELSE???? THEY AREN'T EVEN YOUR GODDAMN TICKETS!!!!
Truly! Wow!
And then for his family to take his side when they find out he attempted to steal her tickets without even broaching the topic with her, on top of their horrific way of speaking to her, is absolutely disgusting.
Yeah that is sociopathic unless we're missing a lot from the story. I don't even know what new info would justify his behaviour though
@@mettatonex7221 I mean, he had to have got it from somewhere right
As someone who's mom married into a very wealthy family when I was a teenager, I can say this is pretty common for people from wealthy families. When you've grown up in a system that is completely catered to you and your wants, of course that mentality is going to extend into every aspect of your life. In my experience, they tend to view people as property, and themselves as above the "peasantry" if you will. It's classism 101, everything is transactional and the world owes them all that it has for nothing in return. Shit, my family would get so bored from not having real problems to deal with that every week we had some new reality tv style drama happening bc they had to create it to keep themselves entertained. Oddly enough, the guy who made all that money for them, my granddad, is sick of all of it and he and I have a pretty good relationship lmao
I had a classmate called Princess Diana Elizabeth, those are three names and her parents chose that. She changed her name as soon as she legally could
theres no way this is real, omfg... whats wrong with her parents?! its not a contest to show up with the most unique name
I know someone who named their daughter ABCDEFGHIJKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ and pronounced it Noelle, because it was the alphabet without L, “no L” 💀
@@borahbros1664 holy shit that’s bad but I gotta hand it to them that’s really creative 😂
@@enhamyloves My neighbor in the Southern U.S. named her daughter Princess Love (Lastname). It's awful. If the person was from a country where "Princess" is a normal name, that's one thing. But knowing that it's not part of your culture and your child is going to get bullied, possibly overlooked in job searches, etc just because you wanted to be cutesy isn't okay. Nicknames exist for a reason.
@@enhamyloves This is actually very common in Latin America, I know several (older) ladies names "Lady Diana" "Laididi" "Princesa Diana" etc
I have a very long name. It’s spelled normally, but it’s long. Her name is long, and will inevitably be spelled wrong.
I can tell you that it made me buying a house prolonged because of all the random spellings and making sure I wasn’t having alternate ID’s. I can never find my medical records, driving records, other official records, because they spell it wrong or use some weird combination. I’ve also nearly been denied boarding on a plane, because my name can’t fit on a boarding pass, so the full thing doesn’t match my ID/passport.
Naming kids stupid names does have repercussions, and Arasha doesn’t have that crazy of a name to understand the consequences.
This should be a top comment. I'm glad I live in a country where there are laws to protect kids from their idiot parents wanting to name them stupid sh1t.
That is rough
Here's the thing about the first story. Ghiuliyette isn't gonna stay as a cute little baby forever. She's going to be an adult. The parent's obviously weren't thinking about that when they choose her name, whether they wanted to be quirky or not. That girl is going to get bullied for how her name is spelt, she's always going to have to correct people on how to pronounce her name and it might just make it harder for her to get a job with a name spelt like that.
Sometimes parents need to know that the name they choose is gonna have negative consequences. I saw a reddit post just the other day about the OP's little sister naming their new born daughter Harlot so she could have the nickname Lottie. The little sister didn't want to name her child Charlotte after their grandmother, but wanted her daughter to have the same nickname as a way to honour their grandmother. And she choose that. OP told little sister that it was a bad name, apparently Op's sister even searched up the meaning and basically just said "No one's gonna know." and then got mad at OP for not warning her about the name after OP's sister announced her new born's name on social media and got backlash.
All I'm saying is name's do have consequences and parents need to name their child with them growing into an adult in mind. Ghiuliyette is not a name for an adult. That's a garbage name and OP's friend needs to realise that and change her daughter's name before it affects her child.
"Noone's gonna know"
Man, English isn't even my first language and I know. 🤦♀️
I know someone who named their daughter ABCDEFGHIJKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ and pronounced it “Noelle” because it was the alphabet without an L 💀
just curious, what makes ghiuliyette not an adult name in your opinion?
@@bubgerkirg This is my opinion and I do understand others having a different opinion. But this name will make it so much harder in many ways: pronunciation, more likely to get bullied and less likely to get jobs when applying for them. It’s also just going to be so hard for that kid to be able to learn how to write her name and she (I’ve found this when people in my life but she may not feel that way) may end up resenting her name.
Do kids not get bullied for anything already? My name is Aisha and I got bullied for it so didn’t my friend Dylan? Like I’m confused why that’s a point people are making. Also when she’s older she can change it if she wants to? Yall are forcing it.
The most frustating thing about the first story is that if you have unconventional or difficult to spell name, every time you deal with important document your anxiety spikes hoping people wouldn’t butcher it
also when the child starts learning to how spell and write. it's gonna be so difficult for a toddler to spell that correctly every single time
I have a very unconventional last name and this is exactly true. I constantly have to spell out my name, it took my college professor 75% of the semester to pronounce it correctly, I constantly felt embarrassed as a kid for having it.
Now, I've learnt to be very happy about my last name and uave accepted it as what makes me unique, but there's a VERY good reason people got infuriated at a family naming their child "Abcde."
@@Moving_Castles4278 I felt this. At my highschool graduation, which is small highschool from a small town, had my teacher, who had me that spring semester and I had a friendly relationship with, as the announcer for the graduating students. When it was my turn to go up, they pronounced my name incorrectly in front of 200 graduates and their friends and family. I felt myself disassociate after that.
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I’m so glad I’m not only one who thinks their take on the first story is wild. Like they can’t even see the other side of it.
Tbh a lot of their takes on these Reddit stories make no sense to me. Love them, but sometimes they seem like they just go along with whatever the first person says and follow it to an extreme without considering the alternative perspective.
I think this is the first time I have ever STRONGLY disagreed with Smosh’s opinion on a Reddit story
@@endeavor1664Exactly how I feel. I think Shayne thought the name was ridiculous, but didn’t wanna disagree with Arasha or Amanda.
@@ryder389the only time I disagreed with them to the point I was actually kind of upset about it was when they all agreed that reclining your airplane seat was perfectly acceptable. I may be in the minority on this completely, but I seriously view people that do that as the scum of the earth (I’m exaggerating but only kinda). One of the few nice things I can say about Spirit Airlines is that none of their seats recline, which is how it SHOULD BE on every plane.
They all make valid points, especially Amanda’s point that it’s not someone’s place to give unwanted parenting advice, but at the same time, that’s exactly what I’m gonna do lol. I just have a personal disdain for parents that are so selfish that they’d purposefully make their kids life harder, even if just a tiny bit, solely so they can be quirky with the spelling of the name. Like why not just *come up* with a unique name for your kid? I totally agree with the teacher about the outlandish names being red flags for the problematic parents- it’s such a small thing on paper (and yeah, not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things), but I think it’s a huge indicator of the type of people they are.
46:12 minute mark, the woman behind the camera absolutely CACKLING at the BJ impression absolutely took me tf out. I replayed it at least 5 times.
SAME
Thats emily smosh pit director
@@vicked haha thanks, that honestly makes it funnier.
This had me too😂
Can I just say...I really hope Jen is okay. She was 16 at the time and it's been 8 years. I hope she got away from that insane family
she would be 24/ 25 which would mean she doesnt have to remember her age just the year mfs all good imo
What makes u think shes any different probably as crazy as they are
@@tiffmitch702 hopeless optimism
@@DepressedGoose Isn't optimism defined by hope? I suppose hopeless hopefulness still tracks, paradoxical as it is.
@@Todesnuss I'm a hopeful nihilist.
Girl when they started saying they were in the 5th row for Hamilton dead centre and it was Lin Manuel Miranda’s last performance I literally started tearing up, thank god she was still able to go and he didn’t physically give them away.
Oh God, I was so worried. Thank you. I was going to have to build a Time Machine to go back and set this dude straight.
I do hope that Jen is ok though feel bad for her and that messed up fam
"Ghiuliyette Mahriya" belongs to r/tragedeigh
that’s exactly what i thought of lmao
that’s what i was thinking of the whole time
Parents belongs on r/foundsatan
I'm not worried it'll ruin her life, I'm worried about how hard it'll be for her to learn to spell her own name😂
@@ft.meganmccarthy8865fr though I’d be worried about that for the child
The husband “paying” His wife just makes me think that her love language is gifts and that’s what makes her feel loved and taken care of
they literally sound like theyre having fun i have no clue why that would be an issue. Honestly to me it sounds hella cute
The first story and verdict is exactly what I was thinking.
Cultural names are one thing but butchering your kids name without thinking of the impact on their lives is insane.(Arasha’s and Amanda’s husband’s name are cultural.)
I’ve never disagreed with the cast more than on this story. (Although I completely agree with the fact the opinion wasn’t asked for.)
Exactly my thoughts!! Cultural/foreign names and purposefully butchering a common name as a way to be unique and special to the point it is unrecognisable from the intended name are not the same. One is a real name that has history and culture and precedent and the other looks like a game of scrabble
agreed. they keep equivocating by giving names that are spelled how they sound or names that are literal cultural names - Juliet is also a cultural name but it's not like they're spelling it the Italian or French way! it's just an absurd spelling just for the sake of being absurd which will make spelling her name for the rest of her life unnecessarily difficult... Even Amanda's like "oh people always react this way to my husband's name," right so some people don't want that! why give your kid a minor inconvenience for the rest of their life over a name that's literally typical?
All that said, fine, yes, the friend is definitely a jerk for continuing to go on and on about it, but also I do not fault her at all for trying to say something to save that kid from having that shitty spelling. it's my opinion that they are an asshole for how they went about it but they're not THE asshole in the situation.
Agree, imagine applying for a job with a name like that. It’s not just kids making fun of them in elementary school, the impact will follow them in life. Mostly cause that name in the story is just spelled ugly, should run it through the random name generator a few more times.
@@Debbiefromcomplianceyeah, i've had to come to terms with the fact that i'm going to disagree with the cast in these videos at least half of the time.
I have a cultural name of McCullough, which is irish people rarely ever pronounce it correctly or spell it right, same for my last name which is Scottish. It feels weird to compare to botching a name to make your kid special.
The thing about "trendy" names is that trends die.
That person has to either live with that spelling forever or resent their parents for needing to change it just so they can get a job and be taken seriously.
I agree that there is a line, but the cop out of "no one should ever tell a parent what to do" is why the world is full of so many traumatized adults...
Its not a really bad one but the amount of Emma's I grew up with is insane (mid 20s) and later i realized exactly why. In Friends the show one of the main characters has a baby named Emma. Its not bad but always found it very weird
@BigPekka69 That happens a lot, too. Emma is a nice name and understandable why it became popular, but I know what you mean. I think the biggest issue lately is we have people naming their kids ABCDE and X Æ A-XII trying to be "edgy" and "cool" without caring how it will impact the person forced to live with the name. There's a negative connotation with trendy name spellings like the one in the video, similar to "Karen", where it's become a complete joke. It's not the kids' fault, but they have to live with the consequences.
@@SurprisePotato91 IKR? My cousin thought she was the only one creative enough to come up with the name "Nevaeh," but when her kid started school there were two other Nevaehs in her Kindergarten class.
@ttintagel Definitely. I've met several Traeh's and Nevaeh's, it's somehow both common and unique lol. I can appreciate a lot of fun naming ideas, but there's a fine line between unique and cumbersome. Like adding silent or unnecessary letters to common names that make it hard to read, spell, or pronounce for literally no reason. Fred spelled Phreihde or Kyle spelled Pcaeile (silent P, of course). I made those up, but still. It's a trend people are already mocking, just don't do it.
I remember people regretting naming their kids Khaleesi after the GOT finale 🤦♀️
First story: The expression on Arasha and Amanda’s face as Shane initially spelled out the name is exactly the reaction that poor girl has to endure for the rest of her life! 1:27
A close friend of 17 yrs should be able to voice their opinion in the best interest of a friend, regardless of how the friend takes it. Not the asshole.
yeah people keep saying "well she is the asshole because she expressed it poorly" but I just have to protest that those people are definitely more the asshole for giving their kid a potential disadvantage purely so that they can feel unique about giving her a traditional name. it's absurdly selfish, and no it's not at all the same as having a cultural name that is spelled differently in that culture or having a unique name that is spelled phonetically, or any combo of those two things.
no for real, it should be very telling that Amanda’s initial reaction was to LAUGH!! that child will be laughed at for years when people see the spelling of the name compared to how it’s pronounced. it’s very different to cultural names like amanda’s husbands or arasha which uses actual teaching of the english language both written and phonetically and would be easy for a child to read and pronounce properly. like the “GHI” sound at the start does not make a “J” sound when reading it normally.
It’s also very clear those parents are doing it just to be different, because the name juliette is very common but going out of your way to spell it that way was for the parents to be “fun” and “different”, they’re not thinking about the potential impact this could have on their child’s life. Not to mention if you’re BEST friends with someone for 17 YEARS you should be able to tell them when they’re doing something that they disagree with without being cut off completely.
Literally, I would hope my friends make fun of me if I gave my kid a dumb name. I'd do the same.
And then they have the audacity to try and defend the name. Like. Please be less aware of your own reactions 🙄.
It doesn't matter if the opinion is asked for. People need to stop thinking it does. Other people are always going to have opinions based on things like your name. Arasha, sorry girl, but the fact I can spell your name without trying proves you wrong.
@@dahor6655 Yeah so true. I love the Smosh cast, but sometimes they have the most horrid opinions.
The first one - my dad fought my mom on the spelling of my name because she wanted to spell it in a 'unique' way. My dad won, and my life has been better for it. OP was NTA.
Is your name Katie?
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Kaightyie
the hamilton story is crazy. i cant believe they thought getting a 17 year old tickets to a show is going to fix her and make her happy. she's 17. every 17 year old hates themselves and their life and pretty much everything. she has her whole entire life to see her favorite shows on broadway, OP's mom doesn't.
Pls like. If it's deeper than usual teen angst. Ie depression or other mental illnesses. That play is gonna do nothing. Hell my mom paid for a trip to France to visit my friend as a teen and I still came back depressed. Even tho I had lots of fun. What did help was therapy and medication. Seeing people especially parents so anti therapy is so frustrating!
@@eminempregikr!!! there’s nothing wrong with therapy & medication! everybody should go to therapy because it’s GOOD for you & people who think it’s bad should be medicated or have their opinions invalidated because clearly, they can’t see the benefits & are probably stupid if they think it’s going to “make” their child something. like no, if your child is diagnosed with something, they always had it.
also, parents who are anti-medication & therapy usually don’t have good relationships with their kids & will 100% drive their kids away. being anti-therapy, anti-medication, & overall anti-mental health WILL result in you being alone forever.
Imagine she somehow DID get to go but got upset at another thing after that, what’ll they do?
Get her to therapy or a counselor if she has problems, don’t throw money or gifts at it??
@@eminempregfirst: your username is hilarious and genius.
Secondly: I agree. If she has depression then going to a show won’t fix it. It probably will make her happy but it won’t change her mental health or other problems she may have. I myself have severe depression and doing things that made me happy didn’t make it “go away”. Like I enjoyed them a lot of course but it didn’t magically cure me. She needs to talk to someone or her family needs to try finding out what her genuine problems are and help..
The parents in the first story are the a-holes. Get a pet if you want something to have a "quirky" name. Don't do that to your child, who has to spell that shit out everytime they tell someone their name. It won’t ruin her life, but it's going to be insanely annoying. So why even do it?
Probably because they are jealous of people who have cultural names
Right its going to be very annoying to deal with i kinda relate too, my name is Kenna and i often get called makenna so having to constantly tell people my real name is annoying so no its not going ruin her life its just going to get old fast
Right? Amanda and Arasha are completely out to lunch on the first story.
@@snacker66 yeah, it was kind of infuriating how compassionate Arasha got about being so wrong. It’s clearly not a cultural issue. It’s clearly an issue of two asshole parents wanting their kid to be “different” and “unique”. Of course neither of them are thinking about how the kid will be affected by this. It’s pathetic, and I don’t see how arasha and Amanda are so blind to it.
@@Zack_Byrdtbh they kinda consistently are. alot of the cast has some scalding hot takes about certain things.
I think people forget when it comes to naming a child, you’re not just naming your child or a baby, you are naming a HUMAN BEING. A human who is gonna have to go through their life, live their own experiences, have their own personality separate for their parents. They are not just your child, they are HUMANS. And, yeah, maybe the kid’s life isn’t gonna be “ruined” by having a ridiculous spelt name, but it’s definitely an added annoyance to their life just so their parents can feel unique
i agree with you. also the teacher who gets top comment also speaking from his experience about kids with weird/unusual names will experience difficulties and might be going through bullying. he knows because he experienced it, of course he saw those kind of things several times at school. arasha and amanda discrediting the teacher's experience is a lil bit too much...
Exactly. They care about appearing unique as PARENTS. they sure as hell are not thinking about the kid
THIS ONE
Yeah their rants about the name were bullshit, that kids gonna have it rough
yeah, I completely agree with the Smosh crew here and I do think it's not the friend's business what the kid is named... but those parents do sound like awful, self-aggrandizing people, and of the reasons they could have to give THAT name to their kid, none of them are good. questioning that is entirely legitimate. in the end, they still get to name their kid. and that kid gets to change their name when they want to.
I feel in my SOUL that the Grateful Dead girl is messing with him 😂 she knows he’s lying and rather than call him out she’s teaching him a lesson the absolutely BEST way!
Why are they mixing unique and/or cultural names with names purposely spelt differently for the sake of being different? There’s no need to make it purposely different. That kid is going to go through their whole life facing ‘oh you’re Juliet? But your named this? ‘ and then have to laugh it off each and every time. It’s annoying
Because they needed that strawman fallacy to justify their side. The fact that they all laughed or pulled faces at the name originally shows that they're full of shit.
Agreed. Don't think I've ever disagreed with their take on a story so hard
exactly, like it might be just a short moment for someone new theyre meeting but to them its constantly happening.
I do think OP is an asshole for how she went about it, but the parents are even bigger assholes for giving their kid that name.
@@jakebarrett7013op could have better gone about it though. Take them aside and say, "hey, you sure about that?" in a kind and gentle way. It's the doubling down and aggressiveness of op. I agree with op, but I don't think they went about it right.
I feel like with the first name, there’s so many chances for her to be potentially refused license, passport, travel will be difficult, her card could get snapped when trying to go out for drinks because it looks so fake. It isn’t even spelled phonetically. It looks like a child trying to make themself look more adult by being more complicated than necessary.
They refuse making documents if the worker doenst like the spelling?
@@brendielahooha don't underestimate the laziness off bored office workers my friend.....
@@brendielahoohait’s not that they don’t “like the spelling” it’s that the spelling is so out of left field that they might be confused and think there’s some mistake. phonetically, the spelling of the name doesn’t work to make the j sound, so someone might think it’s a completely different name for a completely different person. my name is caitlin, and the first paycheck i ever received spelled it as caitlyn. i had to ask my boss to make me a new one and she had to void the previous one. it was very clear it was still meant for me, but sometimes there’s policies or it is going through a system and not a real person.
Yah imagine pronouncing that name publicly at a event like a graduation ceremony or any other occasions.
Also, in an emergency, if people can't spell your name, it can lead to a lot of problems. It's an unnecessary "Rilki-Tikki-Tembo" situation.❤
For the first story: Yes, it’s their kid, but it’s not like they’re naming a pet. That child will have to grow up and introduce themselves to teachers, dates, job interviews, etc. It’s easy to say that when everyone has normal names.
Seriously, I always tell people, give the weird names to your pets. It's their child, but the child is still their own person and has to live their own life with that name.
Yeah that story was weird. I gave my friends a heads up on some goofy name options and they weren’t offended at all.
To be fair, it is swinging into the realm of "wtf", and not "Oh, they tried to spell their own name when they were 6 and never quite got there".
I agree! My name is "Kabria" and with work/employment/friends moving for my husband's job. It gets so crazy and I don't even try to correct people anymore. I just now have my preferred name as my last name. Name pets weird stuff, but each to their own, I guess.
That first one is a real tragedeigh.
The first story is very relatable to me
An deceased older cousin of mine named her son ABCDE and boy you can imagine how difficult it was filing the paperworks. When my nephew started school he came back home the first day asking me why his name was spelled that way and that some kid asked if his mom was okay while she was naming him. He realized then that he couldn't do anything about his name on paper so he started introducing himself using a different name to others.
He's 18 now and officially had his name changed from ABCDE to something common.
WHAT. Like, sounded out, ABCDE!?!??! That's, certainly interesting.
@@LordMoonie You say it like "Ab-City". It's stupid.
@@griefingg0lem685LOL THERES MORE THAN ONE?! I swear I went to school with a girl named ABCDE! Side not also knew a terriyaka 😂
@griefingg0lem685 thats somehow worse
I initially thought ABCDE was a placeholder so as not to "out" the real. I thought it couldn't possibly be the real name lol
I had trouble spelling and reading as a kid.
I can just imagine poor 5-8 year old ghiulivette crying over her school work, because her name is unnecessarily complicated. What is she happens to be dyslexic? That would be even more of a nightmare. I agree with OP.
i had a lot of trouble spelling my name as a kids because of my dyslexia, my name isnt uncommon and the spelling is “normal” too but since two letters dont necessarily need to be there, i always got so confused as a kid
i cannot imagine what pain that child has to go through if she happens to be dyslexic too
"Dump him and then dump his body." Yes! Break up with "Josh" and block everyone in his family on social media, etc.
"Ghiuliyette" and any ethnic/cultural names with rich histories are so different. Trying to be quirky and spelling a name differently can not possibly be equivalent to a parent naming a child a name from a culture that has genuine meaning and might just be hard for people to spell.
when the intention is to “fuck up” the name just because, the parents are the asshole. they named the kids for themselves and not for the baby. plain and simple lol, that kid will for sure 100% get bullied
A bully will find something else to bully them about. I have a normal name and I was bullied by an "Ashliegh". Instead of Ashley. The kid will be fine, people are just being dramatic.
I totally agree with you there. My first thought was actually that the kid wouldn’t be bullied for having that name, but for the fact that likely won’t even be able to spell their own name when they are young. Could you imagine trying to spell that name in elementary school? I had friends that had trouble spelling their 5-letter, commonly spelled names when they were that young. The OP could’ve gone about explaining things in a better way than just telling them they’re wrong, but the parents are just trying to make themselves feel special. I think both sides are kind of in the wrong, though I don’t think the OP would be if they had just voiced their thoughts in a better way. I’d like to know what the parents names are. If they truly think that is a good name for their kid and their names are spelled conventionally, they should have to legally change their names to the most ridiculous spelling that a judge can think of. At least then they might see what the kid is dealing with
exactly! it is that it's not like it's a unique name and so of course it has a unique spelling, and it's not that it's a typical name with just one or two letters being slightly different in order to be differentiated.. it's a typical name that is actually very well known but has almost twice as many letters added, some of which are not even phonetic. that is purely so that the parents feel like the name is unique even though it's not and that's absurd! And they keep bringing up other names that have difficult spellings and how it's not life ruining even though it's difficult, and while I agree that it doesn't ruin any lives it does make things unnecessarily difficult for that child simply so that those parents can have a unique spelling.
when ppl get too woke or sensitive... this shit happens ig
@@Poopypooppoop2 sounds to me like you didn't have the wits to respond with a simple "at leas me parents weren't so cracked out when they named me that they mixed up i and e - did they even graduate?"
the main thing that theyre missing with the first story is that yes, there are unique spellings for unique names all the time especially for other cultures, this isnt one of those cases. its clearly another old white lady wanting to feel special by naming her child something like Cymbeerleigh
edit: thank you all for the support! im glad i wasnt the only one who felt this way about that story!
Yeah my brain melted when they took the spelling very lightly
I don't think it's unique to white people, just look at filipino names, sometimes we get really weird.
I met siblings named Queleigh and Quevin, pronounced Kay-leigh and Kevin. At least the spelling isn’t as ugly as whatever Ghouliette or however it was spelled.
Tbf, most of gen A have weird names, so amoung their peers of their own age it will be considered normal. We are still stuck in our old way of thinking about it.
Yeah, the parents of that kid are definitely bigger assholes there in my opinion
I don't think Arasha understands the difference between a name being "difficult" because it's a cultural name and parents choosing to make the kids 'unique.' It doesnt carry the same validity there..parents cannot do whatever they want to just because it is their child.. that not correct 😂
Exactly!!
This was my thought... I was surprised that she identified with that story in that way, and that this was one of the few stories she couldn't see both sides of at all.
yep. naming your child something stupid is 100% child abuse, and definitely not the AH for pointing it out. I think the spelling they suggest is sufficiently stupid as to be harmful, just switch to Julyette with a Y or something. I was definitely confused by their reaction to this.
Completely disagree. There a literally laws set in place to keep names from being vulgar and realistically names are names. People are named differently all the time. Reasoning doesn’t have to be there and trust me if this kid is gonna get bullied for their name they’re gonna get bullied regardless. Let parents name their kids what they want if it’s not vulgar who are we to judge?
@@Kamakazehsaying that name is stupid is exactly why kids get bullied in the first place for names. It’s genuinely childish behaviour to think that your opinion matters when a name directly connects a child to their parents. There are laws set in place to protect children from vulgar names and that is not one of them. Stop judging people’s harmless decisions based on bully’s and people who behave like shit in the world.
The teacher comment for the first story is ABSOLUTELY correct. No question about it, period.
Poor Ghiuliyette is gonna get bullied so hard with “yo mama cant spell” jokes
I love this comment. 😂
I do feel bad because she's going to have a LOT of kids asking how to her spell her name on repeat. That's annoying and awkward.
THE WAY...bahahahahah I cracked up so hard 🤣🤣🤣
I once asked a customer for her name for a form and it was Aunesty - pronounced honesty. Naturally I just go with it because I'm just doing my job thing, but she clearly had a face and air of someone who knows their name is confusing and annoyed by it. I can't even imagine how this poor kiddo is going to feel about that ridiculous spelling.
Even then, imagine having to write that out on every homework assignment, or anything that needs you to spell out your name
Don’t forget that she was already bullied by these three loser adults saying things like “studio ghibli-ette, Gillette, etc”
Parents who give their babies ridiculous names like that need to understand that they are naming a person and not a pet or doll.
The thing with the first name is that they are choosing to make their daughter’s life infinitely harder for their own satisfaction. It’s not like Arasha and Hardzei where it’s cultural or that’s the only way to spell it. From how they describe the mother in the story she’s just doing because she thinks it’s cute. Just because the mom has the right to name her baby whatever she wants doesn’t make it morally good.
The kid will be fine.
@@Poopypooppoop2 people have difficulty spelling meghan and Megan. that spelling is downright evil
@@Poopypooppoop2 just because someone comes out of getting bullied and moves on doesn’t mean they’re won’t be lasting emotions due to it
Its a child, a human being not a pet they are talking like its a fucking pet
exactly what i was thinking
They way my eyes were opened WIDE in shock through the entire HAMILTON section. 😬
that man child giving away her tickets, saying it's just a show and she should give it to his mother, it's crazy how entitled he is. without even asking! tf?
it’s actually crazy man
thats rich people for ya, majority of time
he is literaly tryin to steal from her
That story made me so mad. I have no words.
Notice how it’s just a show when he takes it from her but not when she refuses to give them 🙄
my birth name is aspen. my parents divorced when i was younger and as a result i went to 4 elementary schools and 2 middle schools. aspen isn’t a crazy name but when you’re also the new kid from a different town, kids will find anything to belittle you. by the second middle school i began going by my middle name nicole. i no longer associate with aspen as a result. really just a tip to parents, make the middle name the “different” name. and then use it as their nickname. could’ve saved a lot of pain if my names were switched.
Seriously! I feel like if kids have a more common first name and a unique middle name, they are probably more likely to like that unique name a lot and might even try out using it when they get older because they're getting to explore their uniqueness on their own terms.
no literally, my first name doesn't exist 😅
YEP i went to school with a kid who went by Brady, his middle name. Turns out his first name was Heston, i was always baffled by the choice to make Heston the first name rather than the middle. Family tradition or not, of course he went by Brady instead
Naming your kid in the most absurd way you could possibly spell it in order for it to be ‘unique’ instead of just picking a unique name is what makes those parents the assholes. It gives off the same energy as people who have a favourite shade of beige.
😅 lol favorite shade of beige. I mean I kinda feel like Juliet or Juliette is a fairly unique name already. I named one of my pet snakes with the 2nd spelling because I have a vampire theme and the vampire I named Juliette after is spelled that way.
I mean maybe it's a fairly popular name somewhere but I've never met anyone named Juliette 🤷🏻♀️
@@Upper_echelon_exoticsRight?! You don’t hear Juliet often, and it’s so elegant.
Yeah. Granted, I think the parents were trying to base it off of a more Italian spelling ("Giu" and "Ghiu" being a more Italian way to spell "Ju"), but throwing in a "y" near the end just completely ruins it by grafting on a very English twist in the worst spot. I say either keep it spelled the local way (assuming "Juliet" or "Juliette" if English-speaking), or fully commit to an Italian or other spelling. Where they went wrong was in trying to mash together two entirely different languages.
@DefectiveDictionary777 but if you put an h there in an italian spelling, the g wouldn't make the j sound, but the g (as in garden) sound. Ghoul-iette
Yeah. They mentioned names from other cultures being similar but those names usually have rules to how they're spelled, following the language they come from, but these made up names don't even make any sense. I think that's mainly the issue. You can be called Giuliette, that's an already existing name, but idk what that name was lol. It's not just a unique name, it's just a unique spelling for no reason.
I'm sorry but I can already see kids making fun of Ghiuliyette by making jokes of gillette (the razor) and where it may or may not be used. Cause let's face it, if people see that name, their initial attempt of pronouncing it would probably start with a 'G' sound, not a 'J' sound.
Parents are the total AH for making little Ghiuliyette's life way more difficult than it would be.
I think another thing with the whole 'spelling a normal name in a weird way' is its an inherently selfish move. Its not for the child, its for the parent. The parent wants to show the world how cool and quirky and unique they are. IF they really cared about calling their kid Juliet they would just spell it that way so that everyone will also be able to call them by the name they have chosen. Also, its a lot easier for a kid to decide to spell their name differently, as their own choice later in life as an actual expression of their individuality, than to try and normalise a spelling. I know people who have gone from Charlotte to Charlie to Charleigh and it was all their choice, and that's how it should be.
States with stupid anti abortion laws aside, having kids is selfish. Parents do it for no other reason than because that's what they want. Parents all name their kids things that *they* want. I think the spelling is stupid, but stupid spellings are increasingly common (which is why thus obvious rage bait story exists 😂), so the idea that one kid with a weird spelling will have their life "ruined" is just bullshit.
There's always at least one blatantly out-of-touch take on these episodes.
@@EvieCorwell i dont think that the take is that crazy letting your friend know that the spelling is a bad idea but you never mess with parents she had also just given birth of course shes emotional
@@flip.2 What? Of course you "mess with parents". The fact that they're the parents doesn't give them the right to make their child's life more difficult for _no_ reason. They're choosing a "cute and unique" spelling of the name because _they_ like it, with no regard for how it'll affect the child growing up. The _only one_ thinking about the well-being of the child is OP, the parents aren't and neither are Shayne, Amanda and Arasha.
not saying i entirely disagree with you, because there are definitely people who treat their kids like this, as extensions of themselves rather than their own people. but i do think that some of these cases could be just "i thought it was such a pretty name". which is seemingly harmless, but the absurdity of certain names can affect the child's life, unfortunately
ohhhhh the hamilton one has me PISSED. AND it was lin's last performance????? AND her mom was so excited??? i was feeling legit tightness in my chest omfg
like shayne instead of shane in no way compares to ghiuliyette instead of juliette. that name is an administrative nightmare. honestly its not the bullying that worries me but the fact that this person will always have to struggle with their paperwork
Edit: Juliet, Juliette, Julieta, Giulette, Giuletta are all fine versions of the name and they all make sense phonetically in the language they came from. And the point is not at all that people should stick to the english standard/common version to make it easier for them. I actually think than an angel looses their wings each time an immigrant has to anglecize their name to fit better in North America....But there is literally no reason to use ghiuliyette instead of any of the other version. It's not from any culture, it's not historical, not even a fictional character. It doesnt mean anything. The H and the Y serve no purpose. It's aesthetically ugly. The spelling is confusing and counter-intuitive. People will butcher it trying to read it and it will create complications with paperwork for no reason other than the because the parents wanted an unique name. Because they wanted of the vanity of being oh so creative, the child will live thru so much unnecessary hassle.
100% AGREE.
Juliet is the common spelling btw
@@grewebeargoing from 6 letter name to a 11 letter “equivalent” is insane 😭 I have an unconventional y in my name (sofiya) and I always have to spell my name a couple times before someone gets it
@@grewebear Juliette is also a common spelling
@@grewebear in some places it is the common spelling, but in other languages besides English it is not. The Italian name is Giuliette/a. That is a real and typical name outside of English speaking countries.
that first name is gonna be pronunced like a doll from monster high
Oh no… oh no😭
Y e p-
Ghoul-iyette is the first pronunciation that came to mind
that rendition of "Juliet" is absolutely cursed. It cant be explained why her name is spelled that way outside of the parents wanting to be "different". That child is going to be bullied to hell and back.
Seriously, and them blindly defending under the guise of “not your business so they can do whatever they want to that kid, stay out of it” is so infuriating, and their seemingly infinite egos to believe that “no no no, I’m right, this is offensive” is so patronizing. I genuinely love this channel and usually these 3, but this is ridiculous. That kid is going to deal with so many problems in life for the absolute sole reason of her parents wanted to be a bit unique. It’s selfish and will fundamentally change who that child grows up to be, like do they honestly believe there’s gonna be no difficulties as a child and learning to understand who you are with a name like that? At such an important age she’s gonna be struggling with how to even pronounce her own name by sounding it out. Let alone later in life, having to correct every single person she meets will get exhausting before she’s a teenager, let alone in her 40s. God arasha said that comment infuriated her, THEIR WHOLE CONVERSATION INFURIATED ME SO MUCH. Again, I usually love these guys, but they weren’t thinking rationally here. Those parents should be stopped asap and someone should have a long conversation with them about whether they had a child to love and care for, or one for a gimmick and conversation starter, because that has to be borderline abuse.
Ghiuliyette seems like a Monster High name. Just replace the first I with an O.
Ghouliyette. Perfect name for your zombie-yeti hybrid daughter.
i was thinking the same thing 😭
Thats what i was thinking lmao
Glad I’m not the only one lmfao that’s immediately what I thought
That's my problem with it. It's basically ghoul.
As a monster high fan, I now kinda wanna make a zombie yeti hybrid named this
Father, now that youre married, when will new mother come again to be part of our weekly bedtime stories?
Yes father when will we see new mom
Amanda made a whole point about a Smosh baby, little did she know we were the babies all along 😌
What. Shayne is,married??
HOLY CRINGE
I don’t know how to feel about this comment 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
On the first story: It appears that Arasha, Amanda, and Shayne were all very fortunate to have avoided heavy bullying growing up. They don’t seem to be aware of how hard it can be. Names are one of the earliest ways bullying can begin. The kid will have no cultural reference to explain any sort of history or meaning behind their name. Indeed, it’s the opposite. It’s a complete bastardization of a well established name.
Though, the name itself isn’t what bothers me. It’s the parent’s lack of awareness of the sorts of decisions that can impact their child socially. If they are this clueless about something as simple as a name, then this is likely only the first of many needless obstacles they are creating for their child. I agree with the teacher: it’s a red flag on the parents.
Yeah they're talking about how kids don't need a reason to bully other kids. Yeah but don't give them even more of a reason the second they're born. And then they need to carry that joke of a name with them until adulthood when they can finally change it and go no contact with these borderline abusive parents
I think some parents forget that they are naming a future adult.
Bullying will comes in all shapes and forms and having this type of name, it will just add more fuel.
I'm childfree and have no interest in kids, but these parents are selfish af. They treat their kids as a toy, not a real human being that will grow up and have feelings.
Their whole atitude was upsetting.
@@nathanellis622 I don’t think that’s the issue. Adults are better equipped to deal with this than children. They can choose to change their name, or they can choose to crusade against society’s prejudices on uniquely spelled names, as Arasha seems prepared to do. However, it’s unfair to put that burden on young children who are a long way from being able to grasp the social context and complexities that would prepare them to fight these battles. For so many things, children don’t have a choice and rely on having aware parents that can make good choices for them.
What the parents need to understand is that children are not pets. A dog doesn’t care what its name is; it’s irrelevant to dog socialization. Human children have to learn to navigate very complex human social interactions, and a name is a big part of that. Parents shouldn’t needlessly be making it harder to integrate socially, especially at such a young age.
There are so many better ways to enable your child to be a unique and memorable person than butchering the spelling of common names. Give your child access to experiences and opportunities that make them a more interesting person. I feel like there’s a lot of overlap between people that name their children this way and people that hang “Live, Laugh, Love” signs in their house.
so true this is the exact rant i went on outloud when they were reading this so true!!!!
As someone with a weirdly spelled name, I wholeheartedly think the person in the first story is not the asshole. If someone is going to name their child, a name that is going to make their child's life more difficult, someone should tell them
I mean, why not just name her daughter Giulia. It's a unique but still understandable way to spell the name Julia. Plus, it's a seriously badass car. She's still in the wrong, it's not her kid, but it's an objectively stupid way to spell it. And the teacher is spot on when he said they're going to be difficult parents %100
Alfa Romeo, badass car.
These words do not go together.
exactly. you could even do it like Giuliette if they wanted to keep the same sound of the name. theres literally no reason for it to have any h's or y's
Giulia is legit a great spelling of that name!
It's also very beautiful
I don't see how she is wrong besides how she went about it. The sentiment is right and she is trying to be a good friend by telling her the truth. I don't know how it was communicated but the point isn't wrong and communicating it isn't wrong depending upon your culture (in mine it is our job to tell them).
For the first story- Sometimes new parents forget that they are naming a person that will one day be a full fledge adult. Get a pet if you wanna give something a unique name.
And the parents are in their early 20's, probably feeling the novelty of naming a child and wanted to make it unique and quirky
Exactly!!
Honestly I get where they were coming from trying to defend unique spellings especially because a lot of immigrant parents spell their kids name phonetically, but this is ridiculous and an intentional choice to make it “unique”
HARD agree also Arasha said that she had a problem with top comment's use of the word normal then went on to say normal just means recent. Okay but that is what is normal for today... you arent disagreeing with the usage of the word. You might not like something being called normal because you dont fall within it(speaking from experience) but that doesnt mean that it isnt the NORM which is where normal comes from
@@BlackDragon-uq1wyexactly! It was not stated if the parents were from a different ethnic background so I assume they're just white. Not that white people can't name their child "uniquely", that never stopped all the Keyleighs from existing. But come one they knew what they were doing to their child.
Going "Ghi" in Ghiuliyette or whatever and expecting anyone to pronounce is as J is so funny
Gulia is Julia in italy but yeah idk where they think ghi makes j
@@Rose13 It's usually spelled Giulia in Italian, but Ghi- is definitely strange.
Yeah like thats not really a thing in the English language and only happens when translating from other languages like Japanese with Ghibli
IKR? The whole purpose of putting an H after a G is to turn it into a hard G
@ava_lavender you're so right idk why i missed the first i
Arasha and Amanda were completely wrong about the name story. Kids are cruel and they will make fun of anything that is a difference. That poor kid will be absolutely miserable in middle school because of all the bullying. The bullies won’t think about challenging the idea of why names have to be spelled a certain way while they’re putting gum in Ghiuliyette’s hair.
There’s probably about a 98% chance that girl’s name is Juliet the instant she turns 18.
For the first story: I have a very common name for women born in the 90's. Theres about 8 normal spellings, 20 uncommon spellings, and 150+ registered ways its been spelled.
Its *obnoxious*
I was in a class once in high school with 8 other Katelyns, and we ALL had a different spelling. 2 of the girls had standardized testing messed up because of it. I had a friend who it took forever to get her passport because somehow her social security card and birth certificate had her name spelled different ways! I've had my taxes missfiled!
That woman is absolutely not the asshole.
exactly exactly that name will one hundred percent be misspelled most of the time. its gonna create so many unnecessary administrative problems for her in her adult life
Oh hey, my name is Caitlyn!
Not a single person gets it right the first time. Always tries to put down a K. Than either an e or a y for the I. Or puts an I than tries to put down another I where the y is supposed to be. Than once we get to the end some people add the extra n
Oh ya and not a si gle person in my FAMILY knows how to spell my name properly
So I agree, the name thing is dumb, it's far easier to go with most common spelling for names or you have to try and correct every single person you meet
My dead name was Ashley…….I easily had many other Ashleys with various spelling in classes growing up
👋 One of 6 Madison's in my grade alone in my rural ass town. 4 in the grade above, 7 below.
I have always wanted to go by my middle name and wasn't allowed to until college. I only wish I could've done it sooner.
I have a very unique last name at least here in the states where I’m from it’s pretty common, but whenever anyone has tried to pronounce it, they have gone so far off that I’d get headaches, the more they tried
Two things can be true at once. The first story person can be right in their judgement of how the kid is gonna suffer bc of their name but also be wrong in how insistent and rude they were in telling the parents to change the kids name
Yeah. I probably would have voted ESH on Reddit.
Yeah, the OP there had a point and wasn't intrinsically wrong for bringing it up, but they went about it the wrong way, from the wrong angle, and were too dogged about it to ever have gotten the response they were after
This! Especially with how they keep pushing. Sure, as a friend you can give your opinion unasked for sometimes out of genuine care. But you have to do it in the right way. This person clearly didn't. It's not even about if they're right or wrong, it's about how they did it.
THIS. YES.
Yeah I feel like Reddit ignored how rude OP was and Smosh ignored how stupid and annoying this choice by the parents is. Definitely ESH lol
Full disagree on Amanda, my cousin got stuck with a dumbass name despite the entire family warning about it and I feel so bad she's not old enough to get it changed yet.
Also the whole "they can just change it later if they don't like it" irked me because changing your name isn't an easy or cheap process, I've heard it's easier if you're getting married, but that definitely isn't the case for kids with stupid names like that
does that kid wanna change their name?
@kaitlynmorgan4613 she does, she's made a lot of comments about it as she's never had a teacher spell it right
@@ecoonrad4753right?? like im trans and changing my name was a financial and practical nightmare, i wouldnt wish that process on my worst enemy
@@ecoonrad4753 It’ll also be harder on them if they’re listed on other official documents under their birth name, like a will. They can prove that they are them, but it requires more time and paperwork. And that’s AFTER the time and paperwork (and money!) the change takes up!
okay, the fact that the dude's mom asked the girl if she still is going to give her hamilton tickets away AFTER THE WRITER STRAIGHT UP SAID SHE DIDN'T KNOW THAT HER BOYFRIEND SAID SHE WOULD GIVE THE TICKETS AWAY is MIND BLOWING. MIND BLOWING. i'm sorry....WHAT? I would break up with that man so fast not only because of the tickets but also because of HOW THE PARENTS ACTED. WOW. im still in shock
For the first story, the friend was an asshole for pushing it past the parent’s STATED boundary. BUT, her point of how their child will likely be bullied for having such a weirdly spelled name and OP’s intention of preventing that from happening is a fact. Intentions were good, act of pushing past boundary was not.
Being bullied is not fun. Please try not to romanticise it like how “but it’s all cool when you grow up.” It is a really tough thing to go through.
Naming your child a keyboard smash doesn't get to be a boundary, sorry not sorry. You're using psychology terms without knowing what they mean. A boundary is a line you set for YOURSELF. Being rightfully questioned about your choices regarding other human beings is not breaking "boundaries".
One thing that you guys didn’t touch on during the Hamilton story, was the fact that the family refused to even entertain the idea to buy the tickets when they can easily afford them. Maybe there is a reason the sister is as miserable as she is. They only cared to get them for her when they were 'free', and not when it was something they had to put effort into. Also families/cultures that dislike therapists tend to have a big thing on public image, so they might only care because they told a lot of people about the tickets in the first place.
Yeah I caught that too. Like he bought a watch that was more expensive just for himself. His whole family is rich and couldn't split the cost amongst themselves for Jen? Jen is probably miserable because her parents and brother don't care enough about her.
Oooh that would explain why they freaked out, they already told everybody they got the tickets 😂
I thought they did mention that. I swear I heard Shayne say something about how they didn’t care about making the daughter happy. They only cared about getting the tickets for free and they could have afforded it.
As a kid who grew up in a family like this you are SPOT ON for the public image part. All they care about is looking good for their friends, they don't actually care how much their kid hates them and they don't bother to support the kid when it comes to their emotions. They don't believe in therapy because if other families knew you were in therapy it made your parents look bad and we can't have that now can we. I will say I never hated my parents but I hated the way they raised me and my mum would always say to others "I don't know why she hates me so much" right after telling me my anxiety and depression was all in my head and that instead I needed to grow up (that's their idea of support, and there were other things about her parenting that also made me a little grumpy towards her). My parents are completely different now and we actually have an amazing relationship but it's not because they "bought" my love like this family is trying to do, it's because they realised they needed to start genuinely caring. A child/teen is very socially intelligent (almost too perceptive to the point where it causes anxiety), and they can easily pick up on when you don't actually care about what they're saying.
I kinda feel like maybe they can’t afford them. I know a few families who are “house rich” meaning big houses, expensive clothes, once a year nice vacations. But this means they can’t afford to go to the movies or out to eat randomly. Sometimes there’s debt, sometimes not. I mean people make different choices but I’d rather have more disposable cash to do fun stuff, personally.
I'm glad that Story 2's OP still HAS the tickets and they weren't taken from her. Even though she's gotta deal with the bad attitudes of her boyfriend's family, I'm so glad she still has the tickets and they weren't physically given away/ sold without her knowing.
Yea, I was gonna be so sad for her!! Her mom sounds like the sweetest person ever. 😢
Same I was panicking thinking somehow he stole them or worked at the venue and somehow magically transferred them lol idrk how that works but I was devastated for her. Her mom sounds like such a sweetheart and was so excited!! My sisters and I bought my mom Hamilton tickets to go with my dad and she still talks to me about how much she loved the show and was thankful we got her tickets. I can’t imagine if someone had taken my mom’s tickets it would’ve broken her damn heart
I was worried he'd gotten a hold of her account and transferred them! Touring Hamilton tickets were the most expensive tickets I've bought. Let alone Lin Manuel Miranda's FINAL PERFORMANCE.
Could have been trying to save them from seeing hamilton? But he was still an asshole
Having a unique name growing up was super hard but mine was cultural i couldn’t imagine being given a hard name just because you want your parents wanted to be different. she was right cause the amount of bullying on my name alone was crazy
For the first story with the name being spelled like that, in various countries in the world you'd be banned for naming your kid like that, due to causing possible future trauma.
Yeah its literally chosing to make your kids live worse just so you can feel quirky and special
It’s for names like “AAAAAA” and “Wet Hole” not bad spellings lol
@@DrDinoNuggies There are plenty countries ar. world that dont accept "strange" names including weird spelling of "normal" name on birth certificate, or at least you need to ask for special approval first.
Yeah during this story I was really glad that I live in germany where you can't really do those weird spellings... like you can't name your child Frankenstein. Even with weird spellings you can have trouble with the burocrates that have to agree with the name which sometimes is overbearing but it's also very difficult to completly change your name when grown up only with good reasons
It looks like someone dropped their keyboard
'Juliette Maria' is already such a beautiful french/latin name... there's NO need to spell it like the parents did
Mariah and Mireya are also real and pretty names so they have no excuse
Even choosing ONE of the alternative spellings would be great. Like Giuliette follows real orthography (compare to Giulia). Juliyette is a little quirky but not to the degree that you're just adding every single letter you can.
I mean the entire progress of (Juliet -) Juliette - Juliyette - Giuliyette - Ghiuliyette is A LOT
@@EmmaWargh I think that the Y and the H are a little extra
@@EmmaWarghSuggesting the Italian spelling (Giuliette) is exactly what i came here to do!
I think they kind of misrepresented the topic in their discussion as they seemed to be fighting the idea of kids having to always have their name spelt a “standardised” way despite cultural backgrounds but I think the issue is more when names are changed for the sake of being different or unique. It’s just unnecessarily confusing and seems like you are worried your child won’t be special so feel the need to try and pack in as much uniqueness as possible.
I agree with them however on cultural names where the “standardised” way is the anglicised way of spelling it like the italian spelling vs english spelling.
"Because he's evil and deserves to die." I never cackled yet agreed SO HARD!
ehhh that's a little intense imo lol. maybe it's just me but even if it's hyperbole, joking about killing people makes me a little uncomfortable lmao
@@highdefinition450 I guess I just have a dark sense of humor lol 😂
@@highdefinition450u must be uncomfortable for almost every interaction or social media discussion
seems exhausting
HE BOUGHT HIM A B3 ORGAN JUST FOR THAT SHOW??? For those of you that don’t know how significant that is, the B3 is one of the most iconic and sought after instruments ever made. I’ve rarely seen one listed for under 3k
I looked into the 'paying wife for sex' thread on reddit. OP said it all started with her being super happy about a gift, that wasn't even the most expensive he gave her. Turns out he usually gives her things she doesn't care about and that time he gave her something that showed he paid attention to her (socks she used to get, but are no longer made that he got off eBay). So, I feel like Shayne was right and communication was needed, because it probably wasn't just the money that turned her on. Also, the fact OP has the emotional depth of a teaspoon isn't helping.
"emotional depth of a teaspoon" HAHAHAHAHA
Using a Hermione quote in that last sentence to roast someone is wild and also incredibly based lmao
So it sounds like she's not a sugar baby, she just wants to feel seen and loved?
💀 Wow.. crazy.. what a crazy girl.
Lol yeah, it isn't surprising that she's not into him if he isn't emotionally checked in
Yeah, something in that story was just putting me slightly off. It's funny, sure, but they need to have a serious conversation.
I highly disagree with the cast on the first story. There’s a HUGE difference between naming your kid a name from your country than taking a normal name and spelling it wrong on purpose. Because in that country, it’s a normal name for that country and culture. Changing the spelling is just for the parents to show off how “unique and quirky” they are, and will cause multiple issues for the child. I feel bad for that little girl because holy shit.
Or even creating a completely original name
That was not it
And also they're not and probably were never teachers or educators for that matter. From my experience, the kid who had the "Anglicanized" name spelled in a weird or awful way didn't like their name and usually had a nickname or was called by a shorter/easier name and that was it.
Exactly. Maybe they've spent too many years in LA and are used to hollywood people giving their kids awful names.
It's definitely one thing if it's from another county. Like if it's Giulia because they're Italian. But randomly choosing an awful spelling to be unique is just child abuse
the cast never argued about that tho. they even clearly said it's a different thing. what they're saying op is wrong for is that they doubled down for something that really doesn't affect them at all
@@lankyalpaca They did seem offended that the opinion, and that of the Redditors was unsolicited by the parents. I'm on the fence about that - while I agree that people should, for the most part, keep their unsolicited opinions to themselves, these parents are idiots and are intentionally opening their child to years of bullying, as well as a lifetime of of administrative/paperwork related woes, and a never-ending cycling eyerolling at their very nonsensical given name.
Ghiuliyette makes me glad we have rules against weird ways of spelling names in my country.
That's neat
For example in Denmark you can only name your kid a name from a pre-approved list.
Yeah strict naming laws are literal anti child abuse laws, theyre great.
So interesting! Where are you from?
@@simonji2940 LOL it’s bad, but not *CHILD ABUSE* level. It has no bad meaning, and it’s weird but can be phonetically justified.
Man, their reactions to the first story are WILD. That girl’s life will be so, so tough until she can finally change her name.
Yah, SMOSH got it wrong on the name situation. A cultural name is completely different than just screwing up a basic name to feel “special”. It’s been proven that potential employers will bypass a name spelled ridiculously for a job. If you want to be unique, choose a name based on your ethnicity/heritage.
yea this is my first time disagreeing with them 😭
Yeahhh this is a bad take from Smosh
They even made fun of it in the beginning and then flipflopped over to "well there's nothing wrong with unique, let them fuck up their child's life"
Yeah, there's a lot of leeway for creativity with names, but there's still a limit. _Giulet_ or _Giuletta_ would be fine, because they're not THAT different and are evoking the Italian spelling of the name. Likewise for something like _Juliyette_ . A bit cringy but still easy enough to read. _Ghiuliyette_ is about 2-3 steps too far, and is just making your child's life unnecessarily difficult. It's not going to outright RUIN their life (probably/hopefully) but even in the best case scenario it's going to be adding in little pitfalls to their daily existence for no good reason. You'll be forcing almost every new interaction where they introduce themselves to be about three times more complicated and awkward then it needs to be. What these parents chose was the equivalent of Shayne's name being spelt like _Xyainn_ or something.
They were making light of it and joking naturally about the name in the beginning but eventually switched on their LA woke "must accept everything or else were dicks" mentality honestly
Ayrechhuh and Uhmanduhr are so right.
Ghuliette Mharya is never gonna be looked at like she has a fake passport, fake ID or fake Drivers License ever anywhere in the world. Its totally quirky and oh so necessary. /s
Dude, you COMPLETELY butchered Ohmhendah's name >:(
Don't forget about sjaiyne
not even a little bit the point of what they said but okay go off
@@SnoipaH999i think its spelled skejin
@@sevansnake369 did you also miss the point of the comment? lol regardless of what they say about whats normal or isnt or should you even give an opinion on the name etc... the fact is that the name is still spelled stupidly and it most likely will cause issues in the life of that person in one way or another. a weird spelling doesnt make a name unique if its pronounced the usual way. if you name your kid eahmeellie and say its pronounced emily... is it really unique or just stupid? lets be real
Now imagine y'all's names were spelt AUGHRAUGHSHUGH, AUMENNDUH and CHXAIYGNE 💀
the first one sounds straight like Angela's laugh btw
B-but just because it's not normal doesn't mean it's bad 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
@@v_dollNot to say it's bad, but it'd def be a pain in the butt for all involved
@@AIBot929I think V was being sarcastic lol
EXACTLY!!! 🤣😂
I'd never forgive my parents if they spelled my name like a 90's chopped & screwed song lmao
41:59 I love hearing that Spencer and Shayne send stuff to each other and laugh about it