He's also a reviewer so at least he has an excuse. And if you think about it, paying more for less, even if it was sarcasm, is stupid. The empier they get, the more expensive they get.
You could just as easily make the argument that he’s showing off how prolific the super light fad is. Truth is that he always has a bunch of mice in the background and is likely just making this clip because he knows it triggers us mouse nerds 😂
I used the g502 for years, then I switch to the superlight. After just 6 months I have lost all the muscle in my arm and now have to drink soda from a straw because I can't lift the can.
@@ShitakiBoy HEEEEELLLLLL NO Why would you get a light mouse anyways? You do know the reason they are able to make it so light is because the plastic they use for that mouse is shit, and heavy mouses in genral feel a lot more study and strong, AND they improve accuracy, so stop feeding into their bullshit , but a strong heavy mouse
@@vanshsureka2425 i own a g pro wireless, as i prefer its weight to the superlight, though its obviously light in comparison to the majority of mice. it feels really sturdy and high quality, and it feels as though every movement is so fluid and easy, especially with my hyperglides. also, claiming they 'improve accuracy' is utter shit, most pros use very light mice. idk what your weird agenda is against light mice but you're completely misinformed, after all its all personal preference, lol.
@@TepidBlack I don't see why it's more expensive though more buttons should be the more expensive option (he says staring at his 22 button mouse with programmable dpi)
@J M Yeah, I get what you mean. “Who asked?” can be funny if used responsibly but it’s way too overused by kids. Most of his viewers are very young and just want the best mouse for Fortnite, however much that may cost. They see lightweight mice praised in every review so that has to be the best, right? I don’t really mind the hype for lightweight mice but the thing that annoys me is that whenever something is so hyped and sells very well, innovation is just thrown out the window. I’ve dailyd the Starlight 12 Hades, GPRO Superlight, G502, G402, Madcatz RAT 6 to PRO X3 and a Steelseries mouse with a screen of which I don’t recall the name. It is a fact that the less weight the mouse has, the better it is for competitive gaming, because a lighter weight mouse can be both accelerated easier and faster, same for stopping. However, that is not an excuse for companies to make every mouse with more than 5 buttons obese. Out of all the mice I used the Madcatz were by far the best, even though they had weight to them (70-100g), they were over-engineered (in the best way possible) and brought innovation to the industry. The G502 is good but it should not weigh that much. Madcatz used a magnesium baseplate as a foundation for the mouse because they understood that if you want a mouse to feel sturdy and not cheap with plastic, you have to use more plastic. If you use a metal skeleton you can add plastic on it without the cheap feel. Aight I’ll stop ranting and praising Madcatz, you have a very good life as well, wish you the best.
@@mimp8365 I don't think using a plastic for mouse is a bad thing. Cus like your not gonna be crushing your mouse with your weight and plastics are legit strong asf.
Yea unfortunately most pc players can’t aim, so they play low sens with a lightweight mouse rather than be normal and use a heavier mouse and high sense
@@bigbo1764 a lightweight mouse reduces the amount wear on ur hands, and ur analogy doesnt work as i use high sens with a g pro superlight, so does most pros
@@drmurik it just feels nicer in the hand. It's more emersive, and unless you're a pro gamer who competes internationally, there's absolutely no point in paying a lot for a mouse made of air. 🤷♂️ especially not when you could strip one down and 3D print a housing nowadays for a few pennies.
@@drmurikbruh, what wear lmao I work on a computer and can pull an 8-10 hour gaming sesh after an 8 hour workday no problem. I specifically like heavy mice.
Obviously its a joke but Im kinda tired of people thinking light is the same as cheap its so annoying in literally every field. Some idiot will pick up a beautifully finished titanium watch and say it looks cheap cause its not overly heavy
@@captainslow_037 With a tablet you don't even have to touch the surface to move the cursor/camera. Also fingers are heavier than a tablet pen. Very cool technology
I'm a freelance graphic designer and I got a repetitive motion injury in my right hand painting. I used a MX Master for work which is a great mouse but it's heavy and it was putting too much strain on my hand to work. I had a big project due soon and another bigger on lined u after it so I had no wiggle room for my delivery so I was considering canceling the project I was on but that kind of decision can ruin your relationship with a client. I figured I'd find a lighter mouse to see if that'd help. I got this mouse the next day and it saved my ass, I didn't cancel any projects and the reduced strain gave my wrist the rest it needed to recover for the next one. I can't speak for gaming but I'm really glad I was able to pick this up for work.
Unless you play FPS games you wouldn't understand. Mouse specs are completely subjective to the user. However, lighter mice typically make it easier, faster, and more consistent to move your cursor from point A to point B. The general goal when choosing a mouse for FPS games is that you don't want to really feel or notice you have anything in your hand. Again, this is all subjective and different people perform better with different mice. For almost every other game or task on a PC, heavier with more buttons is preferrable.
Satire as it may be, Nowadays a lot of offerings like the Pulsar X2, Lamzu Atlantis, Deathadder V3, etc are straight up equal or better in so many areas to the GPX while costing less.
Yea but credit to gpx for setting the standard since 2020. Also wonder how light the next g pro will be. Unless its like high 40g to low 50g I don't see it being worth buying over the other mice you listed
Yeah.Better only if you will replace main and side switches and scroll encoder + good glides ofc.And it maybe will be better but will cost much more than every mouse
@@BotRunz Had the gpx for a year a recently got a dav3. I haven't had a single issue ever with that mouse. The dav3 is def a better fit for me and tech wise tho. Also looking to get the razer dongle but it seems like going overboard at that point
The only things the superlight still has are the amazing weight balancing and the coating is generally better than the more budget ones like the X2 and Aria XD7. Still you can just shell out the extra 10-15 dollars for some grip tape and it's still cheaper than the superlight AND it the shapes may be better for you than the GPX.
I think I prefer heavier mice as I play on such a high DPI (wrist player) but due to all the leading mice now a days are just all light, I’m kinda forced to use a lighter mouse. Trying to adjust to it by lowering my DPI and playing with more of my arm instead of just my wrist. Both is alright, but light mice makes it harder for wrist players to use as the mouse moves everywhere. I keep overshooting.
Regardless of if sarcasm or not; the G Pro Superlight literally benchmarks the fastest response times and most DPI accuracy of any wireless mouse while also being amongst the absolute lightest. It’s performance is unmatched for a wireless mouse, regardless of weight.
the "super light" is still pretty heavy but the idea behind lighter mice is that you can start and stop movements quicker because they don't have as much kinetic energy when moving and don't need as much energy to start moving
I've been using the same G502 for about 5 years now with all the weights in it. It's heavy and I love it. Ever since, lighter mouse just feel cheap comparatively no matter the cost or quality.
@@SandManifesto did you ever try a ligher mouse? Im guessing you have not ive been using a g502 for idk how many years now and just recently switeched to lighter mouse thats 60 grams lighter and it makes alllllll the fucking differnece honestly just try it
Exactly. Also in addition, they spend $$$ on any super, light weight mouse, then slow it down with a soft control pad... I want control and function over weight. I'd argue human reaction time, total system input delay and your network connection negate whatever gains 20gs gives you. No mouse fixes network packet loss 😂
For $20 they work I bet, but no warranty (not that it would matter), and no real pros other than price compared to anything else. On a budget tho I always recommend the cheap combos to start when building a first PC with a tight budget.
I'm using 502 Hero without additional weight and it is awesome. I would not change it for any other mouse, except for the newer version of the same mouse.
I have the g604 and super light 2. I use them for different games. I have been noticing that I use my super light 2 a whole lot more. Just feels better in my opinion. I think it’s nice to at least have the option.
Honestly, I don’t like the whole gamer aesthetic with making sharp corners and a bunch of stuff everywhere, the super light is minimal so it’s easy on the eyes
The point about stability is good. Indeed you are expected to lower your sensitivity to 28 cm per 360° turn or slower to control these light mice. For competitive FPS it is totally worth it. For relaxed desktop use I like heavy mice as well.
I’ve filled my G502 with all the weights it came with and set it to a three digit DPI (like 700 or 900, I don’t remember) even while working. Paired with a claw grip that still allows for fast movements it’s actually really nice for both gaming and working.
Well, it is a scam, you just don't really have a better option if you want a light mouse. The prices make no sense, especially not with how shit logitechs new switches are.
many years ago I got rid of my (second) g502 for a regular GPro, and then a Superlight later. never will look back. would never dream of playing an FPS with my 502 again, though I do pick it up every blue moon for games like Diablo, but still very rare. Capitalistic practices are the scams, not the mouse or the internals itself.
It’s the feel, my opinion. I use the Razer Basilisk V3 because I like how it feels with my thumb being supported. It’s a heavier mouse which sometimes makes it harder to be pen point accurate but I like it.
My cm/360 is about 98cm/360. I currently use the Basilisk Hyperspeed X whatever it's called. Should I get a lighter mouse? Something that weighs less than 70 grams? Is it worth it?
@@wakkowarner3716 Just looked it up, mine is around 59.. Personally I found it was really a nice experience, but after a while its just diminishing returns. I don't think it makes you a better player, but it can feel nicer which can have its own benefits.
1. the lighter the mouse is the better the glide is 2. pros/competitive gamers dont care about a epic scroll wheel or 20 extra side buttons they care about simplicity and fast no input delay gear
For anyone not understanding why light mice are beneficial. For shooters specifically if you are constantly flicking for hours at a time heavier mice will make your arm tired for sure. Also beinh able to flick a 180 and stop on a dime is nice. Heavier mice sometimes carry the momentum just a teeny tiny pixel too far past the target and can cause misses. I went from a 12 button mmo mouse to a light weight and my aim improved and my arm was less sore after intense quick movement gameplay. Also my mouse movement style as changed with my light mouse. There are small differences that add up to a lot.
This is not how it works, it is a missconception. There is no proof of it, gaming companies use this for their advantage. Your Wrist strenght doesnt care if it have to stop 50g or 100g, the mouse will always stop at the same position. The only difference by these light mouses is the multiutility, because the shape of it allows you to use every grip and to change grips in an instant.
Not a good way of explaining it. Also, anyone who works out will laugh at you. It’s purely a physics problem. A heavier mouse has more inertia, and more inertia means more force is required to overcome that inertia to do anything; get the mouse moving, stop the mouse, or change direction. I’m tired of poor explanations on this simple topic. If it can be boiled down to a science it will be better understood.
@@wahidtrynaheghugh260 sure but does that mean more accuracy or speed? like we're literally talking grams saved here and too light can hurt accuracy as well.
@@derbart1191 the marketing is weird though, like I have a logitech 403 Hero or something, it's pretty old by now but they actually give you a weight you can add to the mouse. so obviously not even Logitech thinks lighter is always better....
I think it’s fair to say that at least 99% of people aren’t good enough at fps games for the weight of their mouse to make a difference. It’s just following that trend that every hobby has where people obsess over little details that cost 2-3x more. I’d relate it to something like headphones, sure those $1000+ headphones are better on paper but only a small percentage of people can actually hear the difference compared to $300 headphones.
The problem I have with a lightweight mouse is I pay more for it, and get less. I have a mouse with effectively 24 (12 physical) buttons under my thumb. It cost me 80$, meanwhile I've seen mice with less range in DPI, fewer features, and litteraly less material that cost 300$. There's no point I'm in the top 3rd percentile when I do aim practice games, on a heavy clunky mouse, because I like having the buttons under my thumb. Just buy the mouse you like, for a reasonable price
@@hannanah8036could probably be in the top 2nd percentile with the right mouse. Yes the difference is small but at the end of the day there’s no real negative, whatever makes them happy 🤷🏼♂️
@@hannanah8036 I could never play on a mouse with buttons under my hand... I used to use a Corsair M65 Elite which had good weight to it, but my giant hands kept hitting the side button meant for using snipers in some obscure unnamed indie game which messed up my flicks. Had to start bending my thumb so it wouldn't touch that button, never going back.
have you ever directly compared $300 headphones to $1000 headphones because if you have then you would know that there is definitely an easily hearable difference
I like any branded superlights because it's less strain when arm aiming, especially if it's wireless. The G502 overall is a bit too big for my hand, and I wouldn't care about the extra buttons/features. I don't even use the scroll wheel for anything, except maybe fortnite and light web surfing. The negative is the price of the superlight, but nowadays, I prefer to purchase the Model O Minus.
You charge that sh&t one a month. Why does it even matter? If your household splits between iOS and Android devices, you may have one of these multi charging cables (C , micro, lightning), just plug the mouse in it, doesn't even have to be plugged into your PC, also charges faster than on PC.
I've had the old g502 for years now and never had issues with it, it's an amazing mouse with an amazing grip, don't understand people who spend hundreds on a lightweight mouse which makes no difference
I’ve always had heavier mice, proffered it until I tried a lighter mouse. Makes a huge difference when it comes to aiming. My aim has definitely improved because of it
I know its a joke but i genuinely gave up caring about mouse weight. I went from heavy mouse, to light mouse and back to heavy and didn't notice much difference. Only difference is that it takes me a few days to adapt to the weight, then it just feels the same.
I think it’s somewhat a fad in terms of how extreme companies try to go and how much they charge for them but the lighter mouse does help me with fatigue in a noticeable way. I don’t think anyone can realistically notice a 5g difference in a mouse though 😂
As someone who owns a superlight, a model o wireless, and a g502, It definitely feels better but I also own a Cooler master mm711 and that mouse can be a little too light at times.
@@mrrex3246 my friend is a beast at CS with a G502, me personally I can't do light mice due to hand tremors and I do just fine in FPS games, only just started up on PC again in the past month after like 5+ years and I'm pretty decent with a Basilisk v3. Used to be really good at CS as well back in high school with a heavier mouse so let's see if I get back to it, just gotta find more time to grind
I use the G502X and I've always used the G502. It is genuinely the best mouse on the market. My only problem with the new one is that I can't add weights to it. I used to put those little add on weights in my old one and take them out when I was gonna play in competitions making the mouse feel much lighter. And honestly feeling lighter than a superhighway mouse.
The reason why the Tiktok/shorts youths are doomed is because of how well these clickbaity/provocative videos do so well in the algorithm lol No hate keep up the hustle 💪
If you don’t get it he has got like 10 lightweight mouses in the background
Hoping someone would say this is sarcasm
the amounts of people that dont get this :skull:
He's tried all the top lightweight mice on the market, and still can't find one thats good. Shocking!
He's also a reviewer so at least he has an excuse. And if you think about it, paying more for less, even if it was sarcasm, is stupid. The empier they get, the more expensive they get.
You could just as easily make the argument that he’s showing off how prolific the super light fad is. Truth is that he always has a bunch of mice in the background and is likely just making this clip because he knows it triggers us mouse nerds 😂
I used the g502 for years, then I switch to the superlight. After just 6 months I have lost all the muscle in my arm and now have to drink soda from a straw because I can't lift the can.
Actual question: I've been using the g502 for almost a decade now. Is moving to a lighter mouse worth it?
@@ShitakiBoy HEEEEELLLLLL NO
Why would you get a light mouse anyways? You do know the reason they are able to make it so light is because the plastic they use for that mouse is shit, and heavy mouses in genral feel a lot more study and strong, AND they improve accuracy, so stop feeding into their bullshit , but a strong heavy mouse
@@ShitakiBoy depends on ur prefrence
@@vanshsureka2425 i own a g pro wireless, as i prefer its weight to the superlight, though its obviously light in comparison to the majority of mice. it feels really sturdy and high quality, and it feels as though every movement is so fluid and easy, especially with my hyperglides. also, claiming they 'improve accuracy' is utter shit, most pros use very light mice. idk what your weird agenda is against light mice but you're completely misinformed, after all its all personal preference, lol.
@@vanshsureka2425 I can’t tell if you’re joking
I have hand tremors, a heavier mouse genuinely helps me be better at aiming
Sounds like you need propranolol
skill issue
@@andrewvanbee this dude, get some propanolol lmao but seriously dude, go to a doc, there are things that can be done about that
Hold on, that helps?
swear, plus it feels like higher quality
this is genuinely what the average 45 year old 130g 500 button mouse owner actually believes
Look at the background
@@7cmheaven yeah ik this particular video is satire I’m pointing out the type of person that holds this opinion unironically
i think bro has something against mouses that dont float in the air if you blow on them
@@TepidBlack I don't see why it's more expensive though more buttons should be the more expensive option (he says staring at his 22 button mouse with programmable dpi)
imagine believing that mouse weight makes any kind of difference
the superlight doesn't even have a number! absolute scam
logitech g pro x1 super light master
X is 10 in Roman numerals so this card is reversed. But 10 less than 502. ;)
@@TwrilleX in this case, it's just a standard X
I prefer heavy mice
Do y’all not see it’s sarcasm? 💀 bro has like 10 lightweight mouses in the background
If people want lightweight, lightweight will be overpriced. If people want a brick, a brick will be overpriced.
WE WANT BRICKS, WE WANT BRICKS! Is the price of SL mice 80-90$ alr?
@J M Yeah, I get what you mean. “Who asked?” can be funny if used responsibly but it’s way too overused by kids. Most of his viewers are very young and just want the best mouse for Fortnite, however much that may cost. They see lightweight mice praised in every review so that has to be the best, right?
I don’t really mind the hype for lightweight mice but the thing that annoys me is that whenever something is so hyped and sells very well, innovation is just thrown out the window.
I’ve dailyd the Starlight 12 Hades, GPRO Superlight, G502, G402, Madcatz RAT 6 to PRO X3 and a Steelseries mouse with a screen of which I don’t recall the name. It is a fact that the less weight the mouse has, the better it is for competitive gaming, because a lighter weight mouse can be both accelerated easier and faster, same for stopping. However, that is not an excuse for companies to make every mouse with more than 5 buttons obese. Out of all the mice I used the Madcatz were by far the best, even though they had weight to them (70-100g), they were over-engineered (in the best way possible) and brought innovation to the industry. The G502 is good but it should not weigh that much. Madcatz used a magnesium baseplate as a foundation for the mouse because they understood that if you want a mouse to feel sturdy and not cheap with plastic, you have to use more plastic. If you use a metal skeleton you can add plastic on it without the cheap feel.
Aight I’ll stop ranting and praising Madcatz, you have a very good life as well, wish you the best.
@J M 🤓
@@microwavegommmm916 💀
@@mimp8365 I don't think using a plastic for mouse is a bad thing. Cus like your not gonna be crushing your mouse with your weight and plastics are legit strong asf.
I literally purposely buy heavy mice because they're less flingy 👀
Yea unfortunately most pc players can’t aim, so they play low sens with a lightweight mouse rather than be normal and use a heavier mouse and high sense
@@bigbo1764 a lightweight mouse reduces the amount wear on ur hands, and ur analogy doesnt work as i use high sens with a g pro superlight, so does most pros
@@drmurik it just feels nicer in the hand. It's more emersive, and unless you're a pro gamer who competes internationally, there's absolutely no point in paying a lot for a mouse made of air. 🤷♂️ especially not when you could strip one down and 3D print a housing nowadays for a few pennies.
@@drmurikbruh, what wear lmao
I work on a computer and can pull an 8-10 hour gaming sesh after an 8 hour workday no problem. I specifically like heavy mice.
@@drmurik wear on your hands? Lmao its a fkin mouse it doesnt wear down your hands.
Obviously its a joke but Im kinda tired of people thinking light is the same as cheap its so annoying in literally every field. Some idiot will pick up a beautifully finished titanium watch and say it looks cheap cause its not overly heavy
That was a terrible comparison
yep
wait till they realize a pen tablet is lighter
Drawing tablet in fps games are the secret to being a god
@@MarksterC kariyu method
@@0dc ayy another kariyu watcher
Now wait until they findout that fingers are lighter
@@captainslow_037 With a tablet you don't even have to touch the surface to move the cursor/camera. Also fingers are heavier than a tablet pen. Very cool technology
the (SHOCKING) truth they won’t tell you
I'm a freelance graphic designer and I got a repetitive motion injury in my right hand painting. I used a MX Master for work which is a great mouse but it's heavy and it was putting too much strain on my hand to work. I had a big project due soon and another bigger on lined u after it so I had no wiggle room for my delivery so I was considering canceling the project I was on but that kind of decision can ruin your relationship with a client. I figured I'd find a lighter mouse to see if that'd help. I got this mouse the next day and it saved my ass, I didn't cancel any projects and the reduced strain gave my wrist the rest it needed to recover for the next one. I can't speak for gaming but I'm really glad I was able to pick this up for work.
he was being sarcastic bro
I love the feel and silence of the mx master 3... but god is it heavy at near 150grams
Unless you play FPS games you wouldn't understand. Mouse specs are completely subjective to the user. However, lighter mice typically make it easier, faster, and more consistent to move your cursor from point A to point B. The general goal when choosing a mouse for FPS games is that you don't want to really feel or notice you have anything in your hand. Again, this is all subjective and different people perform better with different mice. For almost every other game or task on a PC, heavier with more buttons is preferrable.
yeah my steel series has batteries i can literally feel them shift when i flick
i love how he starts smile talking towards the end of the video trying not to laugh LMAO
crazy that you can see behind what the camera is recording because thats literally not in this video
@@artyom9137 you can hear him start smiling
@@delacream4527 No
@@artyom9137 you can hear it. Are you autistic or something? Bad with emotions? I can hear it too. Sound like he is trying to not laugh.
@@artyom9137 268 people disagree with you.
Buying the RGB g502 x just to leave the RGB off cuz I'm crazy like that 🥶
You don't buy it for RGB you silly gesse, you buy it for MOAR weight!
That's stupid
@@wavytoad9983 Silence Wretch
calm down man god damn🥶
Why not buy the version that has no rgb?
Same bro thats why i use a broom instead of a tooth brush because its bigger, and you can also clean the ground with it.
Useful tip: work at a electronics department store and get worker discount
True my friend works at Best Buy and gets me stuff with is discount only paid 90 for my Logitech G pro super light
@@BigJetSkiCSmy friend does too, I just paid 113$ for the razor viper V3
can't wait for the new cast iron skates.
Can't wait for Osmium skates
Bruh😂💀
Satire as it may be, Nowadays a lot of offerings like the Pulsar X2, Lamzu Atlantis, Deathadder V3, etc are straight up equal or better in so many areas to the GPX while costing less.
Yea but credit to gpx for setting the standard since 2020. Also wonder how light the next g pro will be. Unless its like high 40g to low 50g I don't see it being worth buying over the other mice you listed
Yeah.Better only if you will replace main and side switches and scroll encoder + good glides ofc.And it maybe will be better but will cost much more than every mouse
@@Mouthbreather777 probably not worth buying over viper v2 pro or deathadder v3 pro because of their optical switches that dont double click
@@BotRunz Had the gpx for a year a recently got a dav3. I haven't had a single issue ever with that mouse. The dav3 is def a better fit for me and tech wise tho. Also looking to get the razer dongle but it seems like going overboard at that point
The only things the superlight still has are the amazing weight balancing and the coating is generally better than the more budget ones like the X2 and Aria XD7. Still you can just shell out the extra 10-15 dollars for some grip tape and it's still cheaper than the superlight AND it the shapes may be better for you than the GPX.
I think I prefer heavier mice as I play on such a high DPI (wrist player) but due to all the leading mice now a days are just all light, I’m kinda forced to use a lighter mouse. Trying to adjust to it by lowering my DPI and playing with more of my arm instead of just my wrist. Both is alright, but light mice makes it harder for wrist players to use as the mouse moves everywhere. I keep overshooting.
Regardless of if sarcasm or not; the G Pro Superlight literally benchmarks the fastest response times and most DPI accuracy of any wireless mouse while also being amongst the absolute lightest. It’s performance is unmatched for a wireless mouse, regardless of weight.
Is this still true in 2024? In still doing loads of research on this
@@Zadotyenah, check out VXE R1 Pro or Cooler Master MM731
@illuminationz7838 Literally just got it last night it's awesome I should've switched a while ago
@@faviocastellanos8753 damn i got the razer viper v2 mini something something but I'll get it when i get paid
@@Zadotyenah, razer Is sort of on top rn when it comes to all that
The other lightweight mice at the top just chilling there:
the "super light" is still pretty heavy but the idea behind lighter mice is that you can start and stop movements quicker because they don't have as much kinetic energy when moving and don't need as much energy to start moving
Inertia is the word you are alluding to.
I like my mice with a little weight, adds resistance for small movants.
Sound like you a fast mouse pad bud
Dumbest thing I ever heard. I specifically want those small adjustments unhindered. You should just crank mouse smoothing to the max
@@wahidtrynaheghugh260mouse smoothing?
Proceeds to have 20 expensive lightweight mice in the background
almost like that’s the joke
Bro did not get the joke lol
Paying so much and no rgb. Definitely scam
-500 fps
-999 dopamine
I've been using the same G502 for about 5 years now with all the weights in it. It's heavy and I love it. Ever since, lighter mouse just feel cheap comparatively no matter the cost or quality.
For real, it feels a lot more premium. Plus it’s not even that heavy
@@SandManifesto did you ever try a ligher mouse? Im guessing you have not ive been using a g502 for idk how many years now and just recently switeched to lighter mouse thats 60 grams lighter and it makes alllllll the fucking differnece honestly just try it
@@FutileArt i have used the model o, its just not my thing
@@SandManifesto fair game then
Feel the same, have a corsair nightsword with all the weights in, even for $70 feels premium, dont want to go back now
my wrist would argue otherwise
G305 is my go to for cheap mice, then the Ninjutso Sora V2 for $100
all the lightweight mouses in the back: are we a joke to you ?
agreed. i have a g502 hero wired. took all the weights out. its plenty light. these people are just weak. i grew up playing on a ball mouse.
That's what I'm sayin. Love that mouse and I got it on sale for like 40 bucks idk people be wasting their money on this bullshit.
Exactly. Also in addition, they spend $$$ on any super, light weight mouse, then slow it down with a soft control pad... I want control and function over weight. I'd argue human reaction time, total system input delay and your network connection negate whatever gains 20gs gives you.
No mouse fixes network packet loss 😂
The fact the the dpi button isn't on the top is absurd. I need my media play/pause button!
There isn't even any dpi switches on the superlight
I want to try a light mouse but those extra buttons look real good ngl
Lol Boardzy trolling the community with shorts is half the reason I follow this channel 😄
140$ mouse
Me buying a 20$ combo mouse and mousepad with headset and a keyboard ( all RGB)
For $20 they work I bet, but no warranty (not that it would matter), and no real pros other than price compared to anything else. On a budget tho I always recommend the cheap combos to start when building a first PC with a tight budget.
I think it is personal preference too, some wants many buttons and some wants less buttons, some want lightweight, some want a heavy mice
I'm using 502 Hero without additional weight and it is awesome. I would not change it for any other mouse, except for the newer version of the same mouse.
A weighted mouse is the nicest feeling in the world
Yeah after that workout I feel so good
I really do like the weighted mice a lot, especially the light speed, because the grip makes the mouse way easier to control.
Depends on your play style and game I guess.
Swinging that 502 around my desk feels like a damn brick, I'll keep my sub 70g mice. and they are NOT bud-ins, they are butt-ins Kappa
U just got weak hands.
@@stressfreemode3755 Oh snap, I didn't think of trying it with my hands! Thanks mate, that helps loads.
I have the g604 and super light 2. I use them for different games. I have been noticing that I use my super light 2 a whole lot more. Just feels better in my opinion. I think it’s nice to at least have the option.
Honestly, I don’t like the whole gamer aesthetic with making sharp corners and a bunch of stuff everywhere, the super light is minimal so it’s easy on the eyes
I want a heavier mouse for more stability. Feel like a lighter mouse would make me look like a crack head with my movements.
The point about stability is good. Indeed you are expected to lower your sensitivity to 28 cm per 360° turn or slower to control these light mice. For competitive FPS it is totally worth it. For relaxed desktop use I like heavy mice as well.
I’ve filled my G502 with all the weights it came with and set it to a three digit DPI (like 700 or 900, I don’t remember) even while working. Paired with a claw grip that still allows for fast movements it’s actually really nice for both gaming and working.
I just bought a super light 2 and it feels so damn good especially for dominating in games fr
I remember when weighted mice were the pro thing.
It took me a bit to get the joke 😭
More buttons doesn’t = better lmao
It differs for people. Depending on what you play the easy access to more buttons can make playing said game a lot easier.
cuz lightweight mice are a must have for every single competetive fps game
Why would I pay more for a lighter mouse that just feels cheaper, there’s no reason anyone should pay more than $100 for a gaming mouse
Bro the g502 layout is goated. Someone makes that layout in a superlight im there... until then ill stick to my mouse with enough buttons.
Has to be the most comfortable mouse I ever used. Patiently waiting for the glorious Model I 2 wireless.
I have the old wired G502. Still works like a champ after about 7-8 years.
100% I'm with you. Even better for me would be a G303 Shroud shape but Superlight, with the G502 buttons and l&r side scroll buttons.
Well, it is a scam, you just don't really have a better option if you want a light mouse. The prices make no sense, especially not with how shit logitechs new switches are.
We used to call lightweight mice cheap shit before. Now we call them pro.
many years ago I got rid of my (second) g502 for a regular GPro, and then a Superlight later. never will look back. would never dream of playing an FPS with my 502 again, though I do pick it up every blue moon for games like Diablo, but still very rare. Capitalistic practices are the scams, not the mouse or the internals itself.
It’s the feel, my opinion. I use the Razer Basilisk V3 because I like how it feels with my thumb being supported. It’s a heavier mouse which sometimes makes it harder to be pen point accurate but I like it.
Not as heavy as a g502 tho, it's a middle class mouse I love it, replaced my HP omen g502 rip off that started malfunctioning
i had that it cramped tf out of my hands..
Send this to someone who wants to buy a mouse for there new computer to make them question their choices
I use a super low sensitivity on a massive mouse mat. That’s why I prefer light mice, compared to my old heavier mice
My cm/360 is about 98cm/360. I currently use the Basilisk Hyperspeed X whatever it's called. Should I get a lighter mouse? Something that weighs less than 70 grams? Is it worth it?
@@wakkowarner3716 Just looked it up, mine is around 59.. Personally I found it was really a nice experience, but after a while its just diminishing returns. I don't think it makes you a better player, but it can feel nicer which can have its own benefits.
they mostly get it for the polling rate not the buttons but it depends on what games u play
super light is in the name, it does wonders for some
Bring back mice with weights inside. Those are awesome 🙂👍
I use a dragon mouse that has weights and the number pad on the side. Cause in survival games having your number bar on your mouse a amazing.
The g502 has weights in them
It's the best mic I've been able to find for a few years now
1. the lighter the mouse is the better the glide is
2. pros/competitive gamers dont care about a epic scroll wheel or 20 extra side buttons they care about simplicity and fast no input delay gear
It’s aesthetic though 😅
For anyone not understanding why light mice are beneficial. For shooters specifically if you are constantly flicking for hours at a time heavier mice will make your arm tired for sure. Also beinh able to flick a 180 and stop on a dime is nice. Heavier mice sometimes carry the momentum just a teeny tiny pixel too far past the target and can cause misses. I went from a 12 button mmo mouse to a light weight and my aim improved and my arm was less sore after intense quick movement gameplay. Also my mouse movement style as changed with my light mouse. There are small differences that add up to a lot.
This is not how it works, it is a missconception. There is no proof of it, gaming companies use this for their advantage. Your Wrist strenght doesnt care if it have to stop 50g or 100g, the mouse will always stop at the same position. The only difference by these light mouses is the multiutility, because the shape of it allows you to use every grip and to change grips in an instant.
Not a good way of explaining it. Also, anyone who works out will laugh at you.
It’s purely a physics problem. A heavier mouse has more inertia, and more inertia means more force is required to overcome that inertia to do anything; get the mouse moving, stop the mouse, or change direction.
I’m tired of poor explanations on this simple topic. If it can be boiled down to a science it will be better understood.
@@wahidtrynaheghugh260 sure but does that mean more accuracy or speed? like we're literally talking grams saved here and too light can hurt accuracy as well.
@@derbart1191 the marketing is weird though, like I have a logitech 403 Hero or something, it's pretty old by now but they actually give you a weight you can add to the mouse.
so obviously not even Logitech thinks lighter is always better....
Alot of words to say you are weak
I think it’s fair to say that at least 99% of people aren’t good enough at fps games for the weight of their mouse to make a difference. It’s just following that trend that every hobby has where people obsess over little details that cost 2-3x more.
I’d relate it to something like headphones, sure those $1000+ headphones are better on paper but only a small percentage of people can actually hear the difference compared to $300 headphones.
The problem I have with a lightweight mouse is I pay more for it, and get less.
I have a mouse with effectively 24 (12 physical) buttons under my thumb. It cost me 80$, meanwhile I've seen mice with less range in DPI, fewer features, and litteraly less material that cost 300$. There's no point
I'm in the top 3rd percentile when I do aim practice games, on a heavy clunky mouse, because I like having the buttons under my thumb.
Just buy the mouse you like, for a reasonable price
@@hannanah8036could probably be in the top 2nd percentile with the right mouse. Yes the difference is small but at the end of the day there’s no real negative, whatever makes them happy 🤷🏼♂️
@@hannanah8036 I could never play on a mouse with buttons under my hand... I used to use a Corsair M65 Elite which had good weight to it, but my giant hands kept hitting the side button meant for using snipers in some obscure unnamed indie game which messed up my flicks. Had to start bending my thumb so it wouldn't touch that button, never going back.
have you ever directly compared $300 headphones to $1000 headphones because if you have then you would know that there is definitely an easily hearable difference
@@hannanah8036 with that logic then you're practically saying macbooks should be bigger and heavier the more expensive they get....?
I like any branded superlights because it's less strain when arm aiming, especially if it's wireless. The G502 overall is a bit too big for my hand, and I wouldn't care about the extra buttons/features. I don't even use the scroll wheel for anything, except maybe fortnite and light web surfing. The negative is the price of the superlight, but nowadays, I prefer to purchase the Model O Minus.
Mice, just like sensitivity - are subjective to the user. Shape and comfort is king.
Is there a review of the g502 x lightspeed coming soon
yes
2022?
Damn right. First thing I did with the 502 was load it with its weights.
They're overprice but they're what people want saddly. We all wish we'd want the cheaper option but i'm fucking tired of my heavy mouse.
I do prefer heavier mice because it helps my hand have better control
My hand trembles a lot and heavy mice usually help me aim a little bit better
The only scam on the superlight is not having USBC :(
May just pick up a $20 dock though
You charge that sh&t one a month. Why does it even matter?
If your household splits between iOS and Android devices, you may have one of these multi charging cables (C , micro, lightning), just plug the mouse in it, doesn't even have to be plugged into your PC, also charges faster than on PC.
I recently went from 7cm/360 to trying "normal" sens. I understand why people might want a lighter mouse now lol
Heavy mice ruin my sensitivity. That’s why I use my model o 2. It’s such a drastic improvement over my old 89 gram mouse
i use really heavy mive because i jump when startled by other players showing up outta nowhere
This guy: “Lightweight mice are an absolute scam”
Also this guy: buys all of them 💀
It’s called sarcasm 💀
It also has usb c charging
No
i got scammed so hard
LOOOOOOOOL
Got myself a Logitech G502 Lightspeed couple years ago… dun like it being too lightweight, so I put all the weights
I love the g502 x but i have found one issue…. I keep pressing the dps buttons because of how close they are to the click, but otherwise a great mouse
I've had the old g502 for years now and never had issues with it, it's an amazing mouse with an amazing grip, don't understand people who spend hundreds on a lightweight mouse which makes no difference
I’ve always had heavier mice, proffered it until I tried a lighter mouse. Makes a huge difference when it comes to aiming. My aim has definitely improved because of it
I mean as good as new I got a super light for 60 euro. Much nicer for longer sessions and allows me to stop the mice quicker and play a lower sens
after 10 years using a mouse with a 12 button thumbgrid anything else feels incomplete
The issue is not with why are people buying these mice, the problem is why are these mice more expensive than the mice that has more features
I personally hate light mouses. I'm sticking to my ergonomic cad mouse with the trackball so working in blender is easier.
K.
This battle can't be won. People spend hundreds of dollars on keyboard switches simply because they like the sound they make. Its absolutely absurd.
Switches are not expensive, they buy decks for 400$. 💀 only to brag about it and tell people "dont go down a rabbit hole"
in a few days “why you should buy a light gaming mouse”
You’re paying for quality materials that are packed into a tighter area for better performance and software 😭🙏
I know its a joke but i genuinely gave up caring about mouse weight. I went from heavy mouse, to light mouse and back to heavy and didn't notice much difference. Only difference is that it takes me a few days to adapt to the weight, then it just feels the same.
SHOCKING! Dumpster drop! EPIC
bigger plot twist than Se7en.
Half of what controls your game is more than double the cost of what one of my controllers costs. The entire thing is a scam lol
I think it’s somewhat a fad in terms of how extreme companies try to go and how much they charge for them but the lighter mouse does help me with fatigue in a noticeable way. I don’t think anyone can realistically notice a 5g difference in a mouse though 😂
My third G602 is still going strong, I love this mouse
i use the g305 and it works like a treat best mouse ive owned and ive had alot of high end mouses but the g305 being under 40 still surprises me
I have one too and I love mine
I must say the superlight 2 has taken my flight sim experience to a whole new level.
After five years my main is stil the G305. All I need in an an economic mouse.
Companies have made people believe light weight means everything about it is better
Only exception would probably be sports cars, that's about it
It makes it easier to handle and thus more accurate as there is less resistance, and your hand movements can transfer more directly into the game.
As someone who owns a superlight, a model o wireless, and a g502, It definitely feels better but I also own a Cooler master mm711 and that mouse can be a little too light at times.
I hope youre aware the superligth was made with pro player from different games like dota and csgo
I feel like i'm one of the few gamers that runs their G502 loaded with extra weight...
Do you play FPS games, and more importantly, are you any good at them? That's the main group that uses light mice.
@@mrrex3246 Doubt he's any good at CS:GO.
@@mrrex3246 my friend is a beast at CS with a G502, me personally I can't do light mice due to hand tremors and I do just fine in FPS games, only just started up on PC again in the past month after like 5+ years and I'm pretty decent with a Basilisk v3. Used to be really good at CS as well back in high school with a heavier mouse so let's see if I get back to it, just gotta find more time to grind
hmmmmmmm, accurate info as always
I use the G502X and I've always used the G502. It is genuinely the best mouse on the market. My only problem with the new one is that I can't add weights to it. I used to put those little add on weights in my old one and take them out when I was gonna play in competitions making the mouse feel much lighter. And honestly feeling lighter than a superhighway mouse.
I need heavier mouses because otherwise i throw the damn mouse from the desk trying to aim. Another thing is the buttons for MMO's and productivity.
The reason why the Tiktok/shorts youths are doomed is because of how well these clickbaity/provocative videos do so well in the algorithm lol
No hate keep up the hustle 💪
And yet he has a whole line of them in the background lol 😆
"why are so many people falling for the sca.." *falls for it*
My buddy uses a 185g mouse... litterally 100g more than mine. I judge him immensely.