Can we just take a second to bask in this man's glory? He knows many, many things about computers, he is actually good at video games (unlike many tech tubers), he is good at modding things, he is a great photographer and video editor (shots look better than LTT imo, they spend like 100k on cameras and have a team of editors), good at writing scripts, makes regular and consistently good content, and is probably good at a bunch of other stuff too. And through all of that, he works out and is jacked.
Completely agree. I wonder what he does for a job... maybe engineering related? Either way, he's the only person on RUclips whose videos I instantly click like on.
To be fair, you shouldn't compare him to LTT. He's a RUclipsr and most likely is working independently, without a team. Everything about his videos is his exclusively, from scripts, camera angles, ideas, choices of sponsors, etc. and he only releases videos like once per week. On the other hand, the Linus Media Group is a decent-sized company already, and there are multiple people working on different types of videos for various channels, which produce videos every day on each channel. You can't expect them to have such unique factors like this guy does. It's like you're comparing your favorite local coffee shop with Starbucks. Either is bad but neither of them is better than the other.
@@therealMrHai Good analogy, i guess that is the reason i like optimum more. He makes videos that seem to reflect his own hobbies and interests which make the videos feel more genuine.
Oh yes, it really is a game changer. I used it to desolder every switch from my keyboard to upgrade them. Still took a lot of time, but at least it worked consistently!
I did all of this a few months ago to my G Pro Wireless instead of my Superlight because I liked the additional features and wanted to see how light I could get it while keeping the DPS button and RGB logo. 60 grams lol 3 grams lighter then a superlight. It was fun as hell. I also got a bottom plate model from Etsy and 3D printed it except mine was honeycomb. Swapped out the battery for a 100mah battery, snipped and dremeled away some unnecessary plastic from the skeleton, etc. Changed all the switches as well. Kailh GM 2.0 Teals and Kailh SMT Mini Greens for the side switches. And put on some Corepad Skatez. So ridiculous but I love it lmao. I didn't even think of 3D printing a new bottom plate using carbon fiber filament till you said something in this video. I have some laying around I'm totally doing that now lol thank you.
305 is probably easier to modify than this. get a AAA to AA battery adapter, get a honeycomb battery cover, and you'll shave A LOT of weight off that mouse. Get those grip stickers too while at it, they feel really great with the 305. I wouldn't really recommend changing the main switches though. I tried soldering my own TTC gold (80M) and it never felt the same ever again. Why? because the tension system will ruin itself after disassembly. Getting the LR buttons out was a real bitch to deal with, and it's very easy to accidentally bend them plastic buttons permanently. Bent buttons could result in different travel distance between the button itself and the switch. In my case, I bent my right button downwards, and as a result, my right button had no distance whatsoever from the switch, while the left one is still properly tensioned and had a little distance from the switch. And yeah, you can feel the difference in travel distance really easily. So I just took my left button out again and bent it downwards as well, that fixed the travel distance imbalance problem. So, this method is really a jank one, and I swore I won't open my G305 ever again unless something failed inside.
@@josuad6890 i would still reccomend to switch your switches (haha, get it?) But if you're not comfortable tearing apart the device it could ruin the click tension, but it is better than a double clicking, inconsistent switches I changed my switches and the LR buttons are really tricky to put apart or put together, but if you really patience it's really not that hard I might suggest you to reassamble the mouse again, it might just be a misalign plastic plate
I know it's a tiny battery, but it's a li-po still. So you still have to take extreme care to not short it, especially not by cutting the positive and negative wires together. That's a short right there, when you click. The protection circuit might have just saved you from a tiny but powerful fireball, that ANY lithium battery can be. They are not fun, and anyone attempting this, or any other lithium battery involved mod, please, do not cut the leads together, and never let them touch together when depinned or prepared for soldering!
Just to point out for ppl that wanna try, Optimum Tech modded the switches to TTC Gold Dustproof 50M, there is a 80M version but both are considered to be on the 'heavier' side of mouse micro switches like the Kailh GM 4.0 I do like them a lot too cuz they are just so much more snappier but I prefer a 'medium' weight like Kailh GM 8.0 for gaming that is a middle ground between the TTC Gold and stock made in China Omron D2FC switches which is considered to be among the lightest of mouse switches Of course the upper shell and how it contacts the switch makes a big difference in keyfeel so it's very much from a mouse to mouse basis The stock scroll encoder if I'm not mistaken is a TTC Silver/White Core 8mm that is a more premium "heavier" feeling scroll encoder. Heavier for scroll encoders means each step/notch is more pronounced and tactile feeling The Kailh Red Core encoder is technically a downgrade because of the lifespan but some ppl prefer a more 'lighter' buttery feeling scroll I myself prefer a more heavier scroll encoder with very defined and pronounced steps so I use either the Alps encoder or the TTC Gold/Yellow core As for the mouse skates I recommend Tiger Arc ICE. They're usually cheaper than Corepads but have the same smoothness and glide performance. You can get the Tiger Arc V1 or V2 if you're on a budget but they aren't as frictionless You can try Pulsar Superglide glass skates but I heard they are almost too fast and that they do dull/roughen up mousepads faster than PTFE skates. So there'll be a rough spot in the middle of your mousepad after a couple weeks or months depending on your usage, but it is currently the skates with the least friction Source : I offer mouse modding & repairing services on the side
@@innoillust they are more of less the same feeling in terms of keyfeel. If it feels light to you perhaps your mouse upper shell shape makes it feel easier to click
Thanks for the detailed post! I can't find anything about 50m TTC Gold Dustproof switches. I only see 30/60/80M switches online. Also from the video he never shows the side with the model text, but we can sort of see it from the other side, and it SEEMS like it's saying 30M from the back to me. Is there a different model that I can't locate online??
I love modding mice. Loosing a few grams can really make a big difference in feel. Also, TJ Exclusives offers a lightweight base for the G Pro X that can drop the weight to 54G without the battery mod or cutting up internals. It also retains the dongle holder.
My mans cut up internals & slashed his battery life in half but didn't want more holes in the base... Very odd choice. I find it quite funny that you can get the same weight reduction he achieved with just a single well-made base.
I'd love to see the next version of the Superlight being exactly the same, but with an 8K sensor and maybe 10-15 grams lighter. And hopefully a more tactile scroll wheel.
would also be nice if theres a small variant. Imo the gpx has such a bulky shape i just cant find any reference points for my hands to sit comfortably at
4:32 This is the part where I suggest you to have some proper soldering tools ; get yourself a soldering iron which can adjust the temperture or else the pcb would be burned. Also it'll be easier to just add more solder(some with a lower melting temp to easy melting those factory solder sticking on switches+encoders.
@@gamiiee typically u dont want it too hot, i find 300-350C is enough for both soldering and desoldering. 350C is a bit too hot usually for my case, as i can see the solder tin is browning but its still usable (and relatively safe for pcb) if you want the extra heat for whatever reason.
@@gamiiee oh yeah, i forgot theres lead-free thats a bit harder to melt. Anyway, while some pcb like these are more sensitive to heat its not really an issue if you dont burn the solder tin/lead and dont stick the iron on it for too long
Great job, it's quite an involved process to mod such a mouse. I wonder if the 3d printed base will crack since injection molded plastic is very tough in comparison
You're actually more likely to have heat issues if printed in PLA than toughness issues. 3D prints are a lot stronger than a lot of people want to assume. *Me included everytime I intentionally try to break one.*
@@ventilate4267This, 3d printed pieces are really only weak when printing tall/small parts vertically. PLA doesnt have the best layer adhesion, and you can work around this vertical stack weakness with many other materials.
I modded my G305. 3D printed a honeycomb shell, removed the side buttons (I am left-handed, they were useless) and removed the battery tray to install a button cell battery (A675). It went from the stock 99 g with a AA battery to 59 g. I love it. I wouldn't change it for a G Pro Superlight, because the G Pro is too big for my hand.
For anyone else looking for a light clicking switch (after a lot of testing) I've found OMRON D2F-01F switches to bin with the lightest clicks. These switches have a taller than normal contact pad, so if that's a dealbreaker for you go with the OMRON D2F-F-3-7. The Honeywell UX10C are similarly light, but in my opinion, not worth the clost or effort to track down. Also, if you want the absolute lightest clicks, buy a 100g tension gauge and more switches than you need.
Factory solder, especially the one Logitech uses is rather stubborn. What helps is to just heat it up and add your own solder to it, then you can easily remove it with your desoldering pump.
Awesome biceps man. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
This brings up a question - should logitech let you order a customisable mouse: - what kind of actuation scroll wheel you want; - what kind of switches you want; - what kind of number/positioning of additional buttons you want; - what kind of sensor you want (perhaps gradual improvement); - what kind of shape you want; - what kind of weight you want; - what kind of visual representation of the mouse you want; - what kind of surface you want; - what kind of sensor positioning you want (some forward sensors are perceived as advantageous for flicking) I can also imagine people would get into a sort of "trying the pro configs", where they'd try certain professional player configurations for the mouse, to see if it's some kind of magic. Because currently, there is no such thing. Archaic and downright stupid "mouse weights" and other things like that offer near to zero customisation, or customisation that is actual "smoke on the water" and have no real impact, just a placebo. It's like you're buying a car from the window - the color is set, the transmision is set, the engine capacity is set, and they only have one in the showroom. Buy it or leave it. The whole thing behind it is kind of archaic. And it wouldnt be a problem, if our hands weren't so different. But not only the size of our hands differs, also - how we hold the mouse. So that's another number going into randomness generator. On top of that, we sit differently, our elbow positions are very different. I've used countless amounts of mice, and not only I've been frustrated at their devs, but I also recognise how good they are at their job - the whole product development/release process is very complicated, and the fact that they often get 9/10 things right, speaks miles. Speaking about 9/10 things right about a mouse - there's always something annoying or breaking to you about a particular mouse (most often when you've tried other mice and have an idea that better versions of problem solving to that particular issue exist). Imagine if you could fine tune the mouse to something that is perfect in every customisable way. How confident you'd be in your game ? How happy would that make you, since you've eliminated one thing to worry about, and the fact that you got something you can 100% trust ? Wouldn't that give you freedom to concentrate on other, more important things about improving yourself ? It's like mouse lego. You could even ship different parts with the ability for the design of the mouse to give users easy access to replace certain parts, or all of the parts. There are always people who "dont want to fiddle too much" and hate the whole idea, as they feel you can lose yourself in it and get frustrated and annoyed by the whole process. However, there is a very strong opposing argument to that - whilst plain single configuration, almost "placeholder" mice are good for casual users, once you get into gaming, you start understanding how important it is to fine-tune things. It not only gives you performance advantages over your "older", less-wise-self, but also against your opponents, as you've maximised one feature about yourself, and it performs on 99.9%. On top of that it gives you much more confidence in your abilities in majority of situations. It's like fine-tuning small things about your kitchen, or your car, that makes your routine easier, makes you work less for the same, or improved results. There's a business idea for you. If you follow through and earn a few billion - send me a few bucks, struggling here :DD
Customization would be nice for the consumer, but it's bad for business. It's cheaper to manufacture a lot of the same item, as opposed to a bunch of different items. Logitech already has the best general mouse in the superlight, so they have no real incentive to do it. It would have to be a competitor. But the competitor can't even beat the one superlight. So yeah, not easy.
@@tdrm I understand the reasoning behind what you're saying, but look at logitech's current gaming line. How many different gaming mice they have ? I count around 17 different models. Is that not a manufacturing nightmare ? What if you had 17 different "plastic" shells/shapes/skeletons, which had architecture inside of them, where you could swap out sensor technology, mouse wheel technology, etc. It's possible to model that, you just have to look deeper into the future. Isnt that easier to do, than design 17 COMPLETELY different mice ? Also, initial manufacturing and engineering process for the whole programme could possibly be more costly, but I dont think it would be THAT much pricier than designing 17 or more different mice. Who knows, when you sum it all up - maybe the initial cost would be cheaper. And when you're done engineering it - it's automation time. You can even sell different parts of the mouse and make a big fuss about it via marketing, so that every gamer is interested. Look at CSGO skins. You could make new sensors, sell them so gamers can replace them. You could make super artistic shells in collaborations with artists, sell a limited amount of those. You could make switch bundles (for instance mouse1 + mouse2 buttons), that are easy to install via special bridge (or what not) architecture. You could even sell titanium screws for gamers, who installed some heavy parts, and are trying to regain lightness via other parts of the mouse. There is such an endless amount of things you can do here. Look at Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini. (Pagani - there are certain models that have screws and bolts made entirely from titanium, which saves quite a few kilograms throughout the car). There's plenty of info on their "optional extras", especially floor mats costing thousands. Simple floormats. Customisation is a proven concept not only in car industry, but in RPG/ARPG/MOBA and now in FPS games. Every single peep out there wants to be special in the way they look, not the way they play the game. Im not a manufacturing insider, but I've opened and modified a lot of my mice over the years. There is nothing too complicated there. Calculated - yes. But it's not a Porsche, which has to have 3 different types of transmisions for the customer to choose from, in a addition to 4 different engines, rooftops, trim levels, etc. Imho only big gaming gear manufacturers can pulls this off, as you need creative, intuitive engineers. But I think these big manufacturers are beasts now, that have very high inertia, and will not attempt it. Until some 3rd party company comes along with fresh new people who will eventually pull it off (if we all wont be doing VR already), and these big manufacturers will have a new competitor on their hands, who dared, and made their fortune through such simple ideas. That always happens, in every single way of life.
Your vids are awesome, thanks so much for experimenting like this, I genuinly feel it help the tech and gaming industry improve their standards by highlighting the missed potential.
Awesome modification, even better would be using ABS for the base, because ABS is lighter, stronger and more heat resistant (not really applicable) than PLA
Legit the only device ive ever modded, Personally only went for switches scroll wheel and pads, but it still changes the mouse so much and makes it what it should've been out the box
I would be careful with 3d printed bases since if you move the sensor up or down even a bit can make it read much worse if the surface is out of focus. Here it looks like you didn't have thinner spots under the skates, which looked a bit sketchy to me
What if I told you I have a modded g305 at 58grams for 2 years now? Waaaay easier mod too without even cutting or drilling the mouse! All with a perfect middle center of mass, rubber grips and kailh 8.0 switches! Best mouse ever for small hands.
Some remarks: * That massive cavity at the back * Your shirt sleeves are losing against your biceps * That play when you knew they were coming up the elevator shaft
I posted a picture of my new super light and some guy goes “take it back and get something actually good” LMFAO I had the biggest laugh in a while. I’m still mind blown somebody is so ignorant, I still absolutely love my purchase
New upcoming mouse pulsar x2 is gona be g pro killer finally, it seems so good from specs to build quality, and shape is amazing, do a review on it when it comes out
this is just so great. thank you for that and for your continuos work. I am between the Razer Deathadder/Viper or G-Pro Superlight. I've already modded two mice myself but not to this extend and with that professionel outcome. 150 bucks right out the window would be heartbreaking. Sad that you're in AUS, I'd gladly pay you for 85% of the things you've done with that mouse 😅
maybe use some solder flux for desoldering and watch a desoldering tutorial, also I would trimm of the pins after soldering, not needed to leave them on
epic, It is nice to see more and more ppl doing 3d printing base to weight reduce. I mod my whole gpx with 3d painting part, and manage to bring the weight down to 39g.
If you have some 205g0 from switch lubing, try putting that on the contact points where the scroll wheel touches the internals of the mouse shell. Sounds like you're a fan of quiet and smooth scroll wheels, and lube is a great mod for this outcome.
Def although I love loud and tactility of TTC gold encoder, I cannot stand the crackling noise when you scroll up and down very fast. After I lubed inside the rotary, the mouse wheel, the stand-off of the mouse wheel, finally no more crackling noise and a little bit quiet noise which I can deal with but smoother scrolling which I like. I can still feel the steps but in much more smoother. Recommended to lube the scroll wheel so you don't hear "broken" scrolling anymore
the pcb for superlight is not expensive to buy on aliexpress, you can even buy ones that already has the switch you want solded on already. not really worth risking it on the original part, especially the encoder, that is very hard to get off if you are inexperienced.
That's a pretty rough bottom in regards to 3d printing, on my glass bed the print itself usually comes out glass like too. I'm sure they have glass/pei beds for core xy? printers, it would give you a much cleaner bottom surface and much less post processing.
Wonder if he did any testing to make sure the 3D printed base would have the same LOD. Would be a pain in the ass to go through all this only to find out you messed that up. You could definitely remove material from the front section of the 3D printed base if you were willing to use dot skates and not the big honking front skate. Would make the mouse feel more balanced for sure.
Funny how the Pulsar X2 got into the hands of reviewers at the exact same time as you released this video :^) The X2 is an absolute beast which could EASILY replace the GPX for MANY people.
It is amazing to me that a man as built as him needs to shave off not even a dozen grams of a mouse that’s already less than 65g. My man lifts more than 65kg at the gym and here he is making something already kinda weightless feeling, even more weightless lol.
Cool video I am designing a custom ultralight mouse from the ground up and I am learning as much as I can about shape build quality weight reduction ect this video gave me some ideas thanks!
Hey optimum I really like everything that you do on the channel. Quick question, what are the dimensions of your desk, I'm looking at having a similar sized one
I'm still using my Logitech G Pro with a cord. The annoying thing with it is that Logitech never came with any fix for the double click issue so many others have had as well. It double clicks so often when I just press once, and it is pretty tiring over the long run. Would be great if I could just swop something inside and have it permanently fixed, because I like the shape and have no need for anything newer/better.
Can we just take a second to bask in this man's glory? He knows many, many things about computers, he is actually good at video games (unlike many tech tubers), he is good at modding things, he is a great photographer and video editor (shots look better than LTT imo, they spend like 100k on cameras and have a team of editors), good at writing scripts, makes regular and consistently good content, and is probably good at a bunch of other stuff too. And through all of that, he works out and is jacked.
Completely agree. I wonder what he does for a job... maybe engineering related? Either way, he's the only person on RUclips whose videos I instantly click like on.
@@F1fanatic21 I imagine this is his job
And he has a cool cat.
To be fair, you shouldn't compare him to LTT. He's a RUclipsr and most likely is working independently, without a team. Everything about his videos is his exclusively, from scripts, camera angles, ideas, choices of sponsors, etc. and he only releases videos like once per week.
On the other hand, the Linus Media Group is a decent-sized company already, and there are multiple people working on different types of videos for various channels, which produce videos every day on each channel. You can't expect them to have such unique factors like this guy does. It's like you're comparing your favorite local coffee shop with Starbucks. Either is bad but neither of them is better than the other.
@@therealMrHai Good analogy, i guess that is the reason i like optimum more. He makes videos that seem to reflect his own hobbies and interests which make the videos feel more genuine.
Hey optimum I would really suggest you invest 30 bucks for the SS-02 desoldering pump. Makes the job easier due to better quality and flexible tip.
100% this. The SS-02 is a game changer
Also get a nice soldering iron, something like the pinecil with a set of tips.
Oh yes, it really is a game changer. I used it to desolder every switch from my keyboard to upgrade them. Still took a lot of time, but at least it worked consistently!
or if you have like $300 you can get the hakko desoldering gun idk if you do that much though
@@tomato6102 desoldering gun def make the job so much easier
I did all of this a few months ago to my G Pro Wireless instead of my Superlight because I liked the additional features and wanted to see how light I could get it while keeping the DPS button and RGB logo. 60 grams lol 3 grams lighter then a superlight. It was fun as hell. I also got a bottom plate model from Etsy and 3D printed it except mine was honeycomb. Swapped out the battery for a 100mah battery, snipped and dremeled away some unnecessary plastic from the skeleton, etc. Changed all the switches as well. Kailh GM 2.0 Teals and Kailh SMT Mini Greens for the side switches. And put on some Corepad Skatez. So ridiculous but I love it lmao. I didn't even think of 3D printing a new bottom plate using carbon fiber filament till you said something in this video. I have some laying around I'm totally doing that now lol thank you.
Imagine how light it would be if you did it to a superlight
It's like a super light with RGB.
can you share the file?
@@xt0 yeah sure you have discord or somethin?
@@PabzRoz u sent it yet?
absolutely zero chance i'm doing all this but cool and entertaining to watch nonetheless
fr lmao
fr, people do all of this and are still hardstuck diamond
@@Boofski any small advantage is still a advantage in competitive gaming especially pro league.
@@plackfr name one pro that uses a custom mouse with cutouts
It would be cool to see you modding a g305 to the extreme as well.
305 is probably easier to modify than this. get a AAA to AA battery adapter, get a honeycomb battery cover, and you'll shave A LOT of weight off that mouse. Get those grip stickers too while at it, they feel really great with the 305. I wouldn't really recommend changing the main switches though.
I tried soldering my own TTC gold (80M) and it never felt the same ever again. Why? because the tension system will ruin itself after disassembly. Getting the LR buttons out was a real bitch to deal with, and it's very easy to accidentally bend them plastic buttons permanently. Bent buttons could result in different travel distance between the button itself and the switch. In my case, I bent my right button downwards, and as a result, my right button had no distance whatsoever from the switch, while the left one is still properly tensioned and had a little distance from the switch. And yeah, you can feel the difference in travel distance really easily. So I just took my left button out again and bent it downwards as well, that fixed the travel distance imbalance problem. So, this method is really a jank one, and I swore I won't open my G305 ever again unless something failed inside.
@@josuad6890 also Lithium battery
You can turn it into a g pro
@@josuad6890 i would still reccomend to switch your switches (haha, get it?) But if you're not comfortable tearing apart the device it could ruin the click tension, but it is better than a double clicking, inconsistent switches
I changed my switches and the LR buttons are really tricky to put apart or put together, but if you really patience it's really not that hard
I might suggest you to reassamble the mouse again, it might just be a misalign plastic plate
@Procurador Bearded Bob did a great one!
0:13 Is that a cat ?
I know it's a tiny battery, but it's a li-po still. So you still have to take extreme care to not short it, especially not by cutting the positive and negative wires together. That's a short right there, when you click. The protection circuit might have just saved you from a tiny but powerful fireball, that ANY lithium battery can be. They are not fun, and anyone attempting this, or any other lithium battery involved mod, please, do not cut the leads together, and never let them touch together when depinned or prepared for soldering!
Just to point out for ppl that wanna try, Optimum Tech modded the switches to TTC Gold Dustproof 50M, there is a 80M version but both are considered to be on the 'heavier' side of mouse micro switches like the Kailh GM 4.0
I do like them a lot too cuz they are just so much more snappier but I prefer a 'medium' weight like Kailh GM 8.0 for gaming that is a middle ground between the TTC Gold and stock made in China Omron D2FC switches which is considered to be among the lightest of mouse switches
Of course the upper shell and how it contacts the switch makes a big difference in keyfeel so it's very much from a mouse to mouse basis
The stock scroll encoder if I'm not mistaken is a TTC Silver/White Core 8mm that is a more premium "heavier" feeling scroll encoder. Heavier for scroll encoders means each step/notch is more pronounced and tactile feeling
The Kailh Red Core encoder is technically a downgrade because of the lifespan but some ppl prefer a more 'lighter' buttery feeling scroll
I myself prefer a more heavier scroll encoder with very defined and pronounced steps so I use either the Alps encoder or the TTC Gold/Yellow core
As for the mouse skates I recommend Tiger Arc ICE. They're usually cheaper than Corepads but have the same smoothness and glide performance. You can get the Tiger Arc V1 or V2 if you're on a budget but they aren't as frictionless
You can try Pulsar Superglide glass skates but I heard they are almost too fast and that they do dull/roughen up mousepads faster than PTFE skates. So there'll be a rough spot in the middle of your mousepad after a couple weeks or months depending on your usage, but it is currently the skates with the least friction
Source : I offer mouse modding & repairing services on the side
Is the TTC Gold 50M and the 80M color the same? I've been using the 80M one and it feels light to me already
@@innoillust they are more of less the same feeling in terms of keyfeel. If it feels light to you perhaps your mouse upper shell shape makes it feel easier to click
Thanks for the detailed post! I can't find anything about 50m TTC Gold Dustproof switches. I only see 30/60/80M switches online. Also from the video he never shows the side with the model text, but we can sort of see it from the other side, and it SEEMS like it's saying 30M from the back to me. Is there a different model that I can't locate online??
I love modding mice. Loosing a few grams can really make a big difference in feel. Also, TJ Exclusives offers a lightweight base for the G Pro X that can drop the weight to 54G without the battery mod or cutting up internals. It also retains the dongle holder.
its only 6 grams, it will drop to 55g
@@haz2022 If you don't keep the magnetic charging base stuff it drops another 1.5g.
My mans cut up internals & slashed his battery life in half but didn't want more holes in the base... Very odd choice.
I find it quite funny that you can get the same weight reduction he achieved with just a single well-made base.
@@timfulton8519 Oh okay!
I'd love to see the next version of the Superlight being exactly the same, but with an 8K sensor and maybe 10-15 grams lighter. And hopefully a more tactile scroll wheel.
Honestly that combo would be godly but that is a LOOONG time down the line for wireless.
And usb c
I like the scrole wheel how it is but i agree with the idea of the weight reduction
Would be nice but 10 - 15 grams lighter is a lor
would also be nice if theres a small variant. Imo the gpx has such a bulky shape i just cant find any reference points for my hands to sit comfortably at
4:32
This is the part where I suggest you to have some proper soldering tools ; get yourself a soldering iron which can adjust the temperture or else the pcb would be burned. Also it'll be easier to just add more solder(some with a lower melting temp to easy melting those factory solder sticking on switches+encoders.
Just wondering how hot my soldering iron should be for this kind of thing
@@gamiiee typically u dont want it too hot, i find 300-350C is enough for both soldering and desoldering. 350C is a bit too hot usually for my case, as i can see the solder tin is browning but its still usable (and relatively safe for pcb) if you want the extra heat for whatever reason.
@@Crustee0 I see I usually used 300 for lead solder 350 for lead free
Or just buy the PCB pre built with the switches you want. Takes away the time and extra money you have to spend purchasing the equipment.
@@gamiiee oh yeah, i forgot theres lead-free thats a bit harder to melt. Anyway, while some pcb like these are more sensitive to heat its not really an issue if you dont burn the solder tin/lead and dont stick the iron on it for too long
Great job, it's quite an involved process to mod such a mouse. I wonder if the 3d printed base will crack since injection molded plastic is very tough in comparison
It's not subject to very large forces at all, I wouldn't expect it to Crack. 3d printed carbon may be even better though. Could be a cool mod
You're actually more likely to have heat issues if printed in PLA than toughness issues. 3D prints are a lot stronger than a lot of people want to assume. *Me included everytime I intentionally try to break one.*
@@ventilate4267This, 3d printed pieces are really only weak when printing tall/small parts vertically. PLA doesnt have the best layer adhesion, and you can work around this vertical stack weakness with many other materials.
It would only crack from bending it and with it attached to the rest of the shell it shouldn't be bending much.
@@ventilate4267 what do you mean by heat issues? like melting? how does it get hot enough to have issues?
I modded my G305. 3D printed a honeycomb shell, removed the side buttons (I am left-handed, they were useless) and removed the battery tray to install a button cell battery (A675). It went from the stock 99 g with a AA battery to 59 g. I love it. I wouldn't change it for a G Pro Superlight, because the G Pro is too big for my hand.
I was afraid of modifying mine and then I got the courage to do it. Holy! what a difference!
The depth you dive to is pretty refreshing actually, this the content I was missing!
You are the future of quality content on the internet, a section of it. In 10 years time you will be so fucking big, you'll be everywhere
For anyone else looking for a light clicking switch (after a lot of testing) I've found OMRON D2F-01F switches to bin with the lightest clicks. These switches have a taller than normal contact pad, so if that's a dealbreaker for you go with the OMRON D2F-F-3-7. The Honeywell UX10C are similarly light, but in my opinion, not worth the clost or effort to track down.
Also, if you want the absolute lightest clicks, buy a 100g tension gauge and more switches than you need.
Dude, your thumbnails give me so much joyu to see! Obviously the video quality is great too, I just really appreciate great thumbnails!
Factory solder, especially the one Logitech uses is rather stubborn. What helps is to just heat it up and add your own solder to it, then you can easily remove it with your desoldering pump.
Awesome biceps man. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
I can't be the only one looking at Ali's traps in the mirror... I need to know this godly workout routine
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This brings up a question - should logitech let you order a customisable mouse:
- what kind of actuation scroll wheel you want;
- what kind of switches you want;
- what kind of number/positioning of additional buttons you want;
- what kind of sensor you want (perhaps gradual improvement);
- what kind of shape you want;
- what kind of weight you want;
- what kind of visual representation of the mouse you want;
- what kind of surface you want;
- what kind of sensor positioning you want (some forward sensors are perceived as advantageous for flicking)
I can also imagine people would get into a sort of "trying the pro configs", where they'd try certain professional player configurations for the mouse, to see if it's some kind of magic.
Because currently, there is no such thing. Archaic and downright stupid "mouse weights" and other things like that offer near to zero customisation, or customisation that is actual "smoke on the water" and have no real impact, just a placebo.
It's like you're buying a car from the window - the color is set, the transmision is set, the engine capacity is set, and they only have one in the showroom. Buy it or leave it.
The whole thing behind it is kind of archaic.
And it wouldnt be a problem, if our hands weren't so different. But not only the size of our hands differs, also - how we hold the mouse. So that's another number going into randomness generator. On top of that, we sit differently, our elbow positions are very different. I've used countless amounts of mice, and not only I've been frustrated at their devs, but I also recognise how good they are at their job - the whole product development/release process is very complicated, and the fact that they often get 9/10 things right, speaks miles.
Speaking about 9/10 things right about a mouse - there's always something annoying or breaking to you about a particular mouse (most often when you've tried other mice and have an idea that better versions of problem solving to that particular issue exist). Imagine if you could fine tune the mouse to something that is perfect in every customisable way.
How confident you'd be in your game ? How happy would that make you, since you've eliminated one thing to worry about, and the fact that you got something you can 100% trust ? Wouldn't that give you freedom to concentrate on other, more important things about improving yourself ?
It's like mouse lego. You could even ship different parts with the ability for the design of the mouse to give users easy access to replace certain parts, or all of the parts. There are always people who "dont want to fiddle too much" and hate the whole idea, as they feel you can lose yourself in it and get frustrated and annoyed by the whole process. However, there is a very strong opposing argument to that - whilst plain single configuration, almost "placeholder" mice are good for casual users, once you get into gaming, you start understanding how important it is to fine-tune things. It not only gives you performance advantages over your "older", less-wise-self, but also against your opponents, as you've maximised one feature about yourself, and it performs on 99.9%. On top of that it gives you much more confidence in your abilities in majority of situations. It's like fine-tuning small things about your kitchen, or your car, that makes your routine easier, makes you work less for the same, or improved results.
There's a business idea for you. If you follow through and earn a few billion - send me a few bucks, struggling here :DD
Customization would be nice for the consumer, but it's bad for business. It's cheaper to manufacture a lot of the same item, as opposed to a bunch of different items. Logitech already has the best general mouse in the superlight, so they have no real incentive to do it. It would have to be a competitor. But the competitor can't even beat the one superlight. So yeah, not easy.
@@tdrm I understand the reasoning behind what you're saying, but look at logitech's current gaming line.
How many different gaming mice they have ? I count around 17 different models. Is that not a manufacturing nightmare ?
What if you had 17 different "plastic" shells/shapes/skeletons, which had architecture inside of them, where you could swap out sensor technology, mouse wheel technology, etc. It's possible to model that, you just have to look deeper into the future. Isnt that easier to do, than design 17 COMPLETELY different mice ?
Also, initial manufacturing and engineering process for the whole programme could possibly be more costly, but I dont think it would be THAT much pricier than designing 17 or more different mice. Who knows, when you sum it all up - maybe the initial cost would be cheaper. And when you're done engineering it - it's automation time.
You can even sell different parts of the mouse and make a big fuss about it via marketing, so that every gamer is interested. Look at CSGO skins. You could make new sensors, sell them so gamers can replace them. You could make super artistic shells in collaborations with artists, sell a limited amount of those. You could make switch bundles (for instance mouse1 + mouse2 buttons), that are easy to install via special bridge (or what not) architecture. You could even sell titanium screws for gamers, who installed some heavy parts, and are trying to regain lightness via other parts of the mouse. There is such an endless amount of things you can do here.
Look at Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini. (Pagani - there are certain models that have screws and bolts made entirely from titanium, which saves quite a few kilograms throughout the car). There's plenty of info on their "optional extras", especially floor mats costing thousands. Simple floormats. Customisation is a proven concept not only in car industry, but in RPG/ARPG/MOBA and now in FPS games. Every single peep out there wants to be special in the way they look, not the way they play the game.
Im not a manufacturing insider, but I've opened and modified a lot of my mice over the years. There is nothing too complicated there. Calculated - yes. But it's not a Porsche, which has to have 3 different types of transmisions for the customer to choose from, in a addition to 4 different engines, rooftops, trim levels, etc.
Imho only big gaming gear manufacturers can pulls this off, as you need creative, intuitive engineers. But I think these big manufacturers are beasts now, that have very high inertia, and will not attempt it. Until some 3rd party company comes along with fresh new people who will eventually pull it off (if we all wont be doing VR already), and these big manufacturers will have a new competitor on their hands, who dared, and made their fortune through such simple ideas. That always happens, in every single way of life.
Been studying these videos and BeardedBob's for my own first time modding attempt. Thank you so much for your hard work haha
Yo you like read my mind i was just looking for a g pro x superlight modding video and you made one!
Your vids are awesome, thanks so much for experimenting like this, I genuinly feel it help the tech and gaming industry improve their standards by highlighting the missed potential.
That thumbnail is beautiful!
Awesome modification, even better would be using ABS for the base, because ABS is lighter, stronger and more heat resistant (not really applicable) than PLA
I rock the tcc golds. Stock weight. Been using a v2 mini pulsar. Waiting on the x2’s to release.
Hey, kinda interested on your workout routine. Love your forearms
My buddy Xolse got his gpx down to 45grams without using a 3D printed base or drilling any holes in the shell!
Legit the only device ive ever modded, Personally only went for switches scroll wheel and pads, but it still changes the mouse so much and makes it what it should've been out the box
I only use trackballs sry
really good video. i have to g pro x superlight with a lighter battery as well :).
Love your videos!
I would be careful with 3d printed bases since if you move the sensor up or down even a bit can make it read much worse if the surface is out of focus. Here it looks like you didn't have thinner spots under the skates, which looked a bit sketchy to me
What if I told you I have a modded g305 at 58grams for 2 years now? Waaaay easier mod too without even cutting or drilling the mouse! All with a perfect middle center of mass, rubber grips and kailh 8.0 switches! Best mouse ever for small hands.
Second that. Im intrigued
Dope video, makes me want to get stuck into mine.
This is really cool sir!
Some remarks:
* That massive cavity at the back
* Your shirt sleeves are losing against your biceps
* That play when you knew they were coming up the elevator shaft
2:21 if you want to get it super smooth sand it, put super glue on it and sand it again. After this spray paint it.
Yep, if you can make it better then just do it, diy upgrading is one of my favourite activities too, great video
I posted a picture of my new super light and some guy goes “take it back and get something actually good” LMFAO I had the biggest laugh in a while. I’m still mind blown somebody is so ignorant, I still absolutely love my purchase
superlight is terrible
What I like in this channel more than the reviews is the amazing thumbnails I really hope you continue making them!
im using this about two months now, best mouse ever created
you are gradually becoming my favourite youtuber
Really cool thumbnail!
This was in my watch later playlist and when I woke up, I looked at my watch later playlist and saw that I watched this while I was sleeping 😭😂
Brother you lost me at 3D printing and soldering
😂😂😂😂😂
Nice hairstyle
It looks good on your face
Glad to know where actually the strange scrolling wheel feeling coming from now, will replace that in the future.
a gram isn't "a lot" it is if it's a white powdery substance
New upcoming mouse pulsar x2 is gona be g pro killer finally, it seems so good from specs to build quality, and shape is amazing, do a review on it when it comes out
amazing thumbnail quality
this is super crazy
i got the super light recently and its too light that i never thought it could ever go lighter
that Zaunkoenig really hooked him on light weight :D
Damn this guys is everything he’s good at games and hella smart with tech and everything related you deserve for me to subscribe 👍🏻
this guy makes the heaviest mice feel like the lightest ones
Pass your chest and arm routine my king.
this is just so great. thank you for that and for your continuos work. I am between the Razer Deathadder/Viper or G-Pro Superlight. I've already modded two mice myself but not to this extend and with that professionel outcome. 150 bucks right out the window would be heartbreaking. Sad that you're in AUS, I'd gladly pay you for 85% of the things you've done with that mouse 😅
Great video! Reckon you could do a walk-through on your forearm vascularity mod?
maybe use some solder flux for desoldering and watch a desoldering tutorial, also I would trimm of the pins after soldering, not needed to leave them on
epic, It is nice to see more and more ppl doing 3d printing base to weight reduce. I mod my whole gpx with 3d painting part, and manage to bring the weight down to 39g.
well this video has been a ride, I felt my pro wireless shaking on my desk mat :R
If you have some 205g0 from switch lubing, try putting that on the contact points where the scroll wheel touches the internals of the mouse shell. Sounds like you're a fan of quiet and smooth scroll wheels, and lube is a great mod for this outcome.
Def although I love loud and tactility of TTC gold encoder, I cannot stand the crackling noise when you scroll up and down very fast.
After I lubed inside the rotary, the mouse wheel, the stand-off of the mouse wheel, finally no more crackling noise and a little bit quiet noise which I can deal with but smoother scrolling which I like. I can still feel the steps but in much more smoother. Recommended to lube the scroll wheel so you don't hear "broken" scrolling anymore
the pcb for superlight is not expensive to buy on aliexpress, you can even buy ones that already has the switch you want solded on already. not really worth risking it on the original part, especially the encoder, that is very hard to get off if you are inexperienced.
That's a pretty rough bottom in regards to 3d printing, on my glass bed the print itself usually comes out glass like too. I'm sure they have glass/pei beds for core xy? printers, it would give you a much cleaner bottom surface and much less post processing.
Looks very under extruded and too far from the bed, he's probably new to 3d printing
@@Impecable.. no don't think so, he's done some custom case parts before
Wonder if he did any testing to make sure the 3D printed base would have the same LOD. Would be a pain in the ass to go through all this only to find out you messed that up. You could definitely remove material from the front section of the 3D printed base if you were willing to use dot skates and not the big honking front skate. Would make the mouse feel more balanced for sure.
Funny how the Pulsar X2 got into the hands of reviewers at the exact same time as you released this video :^)
The X2 is an absolute beast which could EASILY replace the GPX for MANY people.
Bro all the game play you have on your videos are elite , you a undercover pro player ?
I love the magenta one.
just wanna say you are absolutely pumped bro, gym video when? 👀
optimum, i just bought my superlight for $60. im going all out with this bloody boi
I got my g403 hero to 75g with some "creative" use of dremel. I like it very much
Love the tap strafe example 👏💐
Printing with PETG will be just as easy as PLA with a notable weight reduction! Cool mods.
if you do the battery mod you can just use the power play mousepad, you save weight and dont have to worry about the battery life
It is amazing to me that a man as built as him needs to shave off not even a dozen grams of a mouse that’s already less than 65g. My man lifts more than 65kg at the gym and here he is making something already kinda weightless feeling, even more weightless lol.
applying fresh solder so everything eases up the removal process
Cool video I am designing a custom ultralight mouse from the ground up and I am learning as much as I can about shape build quality weight reduction ect this video gave me some ideas thanks!
Solid mod video, might be a fun project to attempt and you made the steps easy to follow
finally a modded gpx that doesn't look like a car ran over it
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The magenta superlight is honestly one of the prettiest colours of mouse ever
Bro that is pink
@@yolkedmelon shut up it’s magenta
@@-keiskx1774 it literally says pink on Logitech's website
@@yolkedmelon magenta and pink is basically the same colour it doesn’t matter. And I live in aus and on Australian sites it says magenta
Just bought this mouse and so I came across this vid randomly.. really cool though, nice one! :)
His biceps got me bricked up 😳
dude, your hair ROFL, you llok like one of the golden girls.
like always
Nice haircut nice videos.
The G PRO X ULTRALIGHT
Ok we get it SMOOTH >....
modding the razer viper trinity would be super cool for mmo players 💪
Nice. Now cut off the whole back (onto the PCB) to get a real competitor to the Zaunkoenig LOL
It feels shorter because you just have the wrong grip with your palm. My 46 gram Viper Mini feels actually bigger and like it has more volume.
Hey optimum I really like everything that you do on the channel. Quick question, what are the dimensions of your desk, I'm looking at having a similar sized one
This reminds me of BeardedBob's absolutely ridiculous 36g Superlight mod (along with his more reasonable weight reduction mods of this mouse lol).
This is like the ship of Perseus. When you are done almost everything has been replaced. Leaves the question: Is it really still a GPX Superlight?
From hardstuck bronze to hardstuck silver
Logitech: Write that down!
getting into keyboard modding so picked up a hakko-301. Learning about how to tip tin. Check it out if anyone has issues with their soldering
I'm still using my Logitech G Pro with a cord. The annoying thing with it is that Logitech never came with any fix for the double click issue so many others have had as well. It double clicks so often when I just press once, and it is pretty tiring over the long run.
Would be great if I could just swop something inside and have it permanently fixed, because I like the shape and have no need for anything newer/better.