There should be a movie where after Order 66 Palpatine slowly comes to this realization so he fakes his death against Darth Vader just to get away from all the incompetent failed lackeys in the Empire. He then spends the next 40 years reminiscing about sending Jedi to war in the good ol days
Because they were not aware of what was going on. When you become indoctrinated into an ideology people blindly believe they are doing what is right without no knowing the grand scheme
It always made me wonder like why did he let the empire crumble around him it’s like he took over and was just like well it’s been around 30k years so it’ll carry on the only thing he was focused on was living longer but if he was gonna live longer why would he want to live in a trash society he liked opulence and luxury I feel like he would feel more powerful if everything was as shiny as his lightsaber
@@pistiszepesi7634 Seeing as nothing about the Darth Bane books contradicts canon, I would expect that at least most of the content will get re-canonized eventually.
I really love this idea, there's so much you can do with this idea. It could even be that the sith Holocron could act as a beacon through which a sith could use the force projection method developed by Darth Vectivus to enter the temple as a form of spirit and walk the halls unseen
I don’t think that Bane did it, but Zannah. In the novel Rule of Two, Darth Zannah goes into the Jedi temple disguised as a Padawan to do research for Bane. She was in the archives and we know that she had skill with Sith sorcery. Granted, we never see her go into the restricted vault, but it is very possible that she did so offscreen.
While it's true that Bane is cunning enough to come up with this kind of scheme, it would be impossible for him to pull it off because he tends to stand out due to his muscular features and orbalisk armor and more importantly, he has no talent in Sith Sorcery. So the only one who could pull it off would have to be his apprentice Zannah when she infiltrated the Jedi Temple by masking her Dark Side aura with Sith Sorcery.
It's true. Although her master Bane is cunning enough to come up with this kind of scheme, it would be impossible for him to pull it off because he stands out too much and has no talent in Sith Sorcery.
Interesting. Though I always assumed and still think it’s more likely that palpating knew the schematics of the Jedi temple because he was Supreme Chancellor (I.e., the head of the government that paid for its construction and maintenance).
Please, can someone tell me why Jedi can't destroy the Sith holocrons? Or why do they collect the sith holocrons in their temple where many Jedi masters are coming in and out, even if it is a restricted area, knowing that these holocrons can turn some of them into sith?
Well, for one, some are literally indestructible. Made with Sith Alchemy, some items may even hold the soul of an ancient Sith Lord. Others may fight back, resisting attempt to destroy them by lashing out with the Force. Some are just too valuable to destroy. It may be evil, but it's also knowledge of evil that may one day be used, by a wise enough master, to fight back that very same evil. And then there's always the chance that even if they did perform a cleaning ritual to destroy the dark item, it would take multiple highly skilled Jedi to do something like that, and it runs the risk of damaging the Force, or tempting those Jedi to the Dark Side. Just mere proximity to some of these items is enough to induce crippling madness in the unprepared. Just need to look at how Vader got his Castle on Mustafar to see just how dangerous Sith Artifacts could be. Imagine if, in the attempt to destroy that Helmet, Mace Windu had lost his concentration for even a second and put the helmet on. Goodbye Jedi order. Or at least, a good chunk of it, anyway.
I don't think the holocrons could turn them into sith just merely by their presence but rather interacting with it, for example to open a Sith holocron you have to tap into the dark side like how maul got Ezra to do. (And he didn't turn into a Sith and he would be much more likely to do so than anyone that had access to that part of the jedi temple) one had to interact with and be corrupted by the Sith holocron to turn Sith
It's true that while Darth Bane is cunning enough to come up with this kind of scheme, it would be impossible for him to pull it off because he stands out too much thanks to his muscular features and orbalisk armor and also because he has no talent in Sith Sorcery. Therefore, the only one who could pull it off would have to be his apprentice Darth Zannah when she infiltrated the Jedi Temple by masking her Dark Side aura with Sith Sorcery.
3:05 Well I assume so since it's mentioned they had it in their possession only to keep it out of sith hands. It also had a spell to conceal it from Jewish who assumed it wasn't an actual artifact. I mean that's my understanding of it
@@Jiub_SNlmao no. Mace died, Yoda lost and lived in a mud world in hiding for the rest of his life while palps ruled the galaxy and made the chosen one his bitch.
Seems to me that there is more to the story. The Holocrons were the Sith's way to pass knowledge. And the jedi didnt have a way??? Cant wait to see the connections moving forward.
Sidious was able to supply the blueprints for the jedi temple to cad bane coz he was the supreme chancellor, not coz of an ancient device disguised as a holocron, thats utterly stupid
I remember mance said the dark side surrounds palpatine , why they didn't question why the clones was created, I feel the Jedi could had stopped all of this the more I watch episode one, and two and especially three. I see flaws in all of the movies.
Wow for how the Jedi are praised for being so wise there actually morons. Especially master Yoda who somehow knew about the rule of two even though the Sith was in hiding before he was born and did nothing. Also he was the most responsible for the fall of the order and the Republic. He went to Kamino and got the clones without questioning them. If a Jedi placed the order then the Grand Master of the order would have had access to all the info about the clones including order 66. He also lost to Sidious which proves the dark side is more powerful which is why Sidious could operate right under the Jedis noses. For being a member of the council and eventually Grand Master for nearly 800 years he sure was stupid. It was the Jedis arrogance of the Jedi that got them killed by thinking the Sith were extinct for 1000 years and when one shows up they do nothing. Not even when Dooku straight up told Obi Wan that Palpatine was a Sith Lord Yoda just brushed it off and said Dooku fell to the dark side, lies and decite are his ways and that was it. He couldn't have talked to Dooku about it in person or through the force. He was his Master and Dooku would have probably told him. Or he could have touched Palpatine and found out he was powerful in the dark side but instead he thought the light was so much more powerful which it clearly wasn't. If Yoda was as powerful as we are told then he could have opened the Sith halocrons and learned this for himself.
Dooku said there was a Sith Lord named darth sidious. He never said that it was Palpatine. The Jedi suspected a plot surrounding Palpatine but thought it was someone around him. They never suspected that it was actually him. Also not sure what you mean by touching Palpatine?
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Information is power, and the Sith took this to another level simply brilliant.
Funny how the Jedi/Republic always served Palpatine much more than his own forces
There should be a movie where after Order 66 Palpatine slowly comes to this realization so he fakes his death against Darth Vader just to get away from all the incompetent failed lackeys in the Empire. He then spends the next 40 years reminiscing about sending Jedi to war in the good ol days
Because they were not aware of what was going on. When you become indoctrinated into an ideology people blindly believe they are doing what is right without no knowing the grand scheme
It always made me wonder like why did he let the empire crumble around him it’s like he took over and was just like well it’s been around 30k years so it’ll carry on the only thing he was focused on was living longer but if he was gonna live longer why would he want to live in a trash society he liked opulence and luxury I feel like he would feel more powerful if everything was as shiny as his lightsaber
@@czar8206 once your immortal then given enough time he could fix the empire, which he'd have plenty
@@scottmad8563 fair enough
I think it was Bane's apprentice who put the Holocron there. She was the first Sith to use the cloaking magic.
Darth Zannah
Rain/zannah
Were those books Canon tho?
@@jave7318no its legends
@@pistiszepesi7634 Seeing as nothing about the Darth Bane books contradicts canon, I would expect that at least most of the content will get re-canonized eventually.
I really love this idea, there's so much you can do with this idea. It could even be that the sith Holocron could act as a beacon through which a sith could use the force projection method developed by Darth Vectivus to enter the temple as a form of spirit and walk the halls unseen
I don’t think that Bane did it, but Zannah. In the novel Rule of Two, Darth Zannah goes into the Jedi temple disguised as a Padawan to do research for Bane. She was in the archives and we know that she had skill with Sith sorcery. Granted, we never see her go into the restricted vault, but it is very possible that she did so offscreen.
It had to have been xannah. She actually went to the temple. No way a sith of Banes caliber could get into the jedi temple undetected
Plus she actually went there to access the archives so it makes sense that she would plant it there while she was already there.
@@Jaycensolo exactly!
Honestly that makes sense especially with Zannah’s ability to mask her presence in the force.
While it's true that Bane is cunning enough to come up with this kind of scheme, it would be impossible for him to pull it off because he tends to stand out due to his muscular features and orbalisk armor and more importantly, he has no talent in Sith Sorcery. So the only one who could pull it off would have to be his apprentice Zannah when she infiltrated the Jedi Temple by masking her Dark Side aura with Sith Sorcery.
Palpatine: I'm extremely happy
Star wars is full of awesome details like this. It is things like this that made star wars so amazing.
Palpatine was always good at playing both sides.
The same is true of your mom
i think Zannah did it as she did infiltrate the Temple and she was gifted in Sith Sorcery.
It's true. Although her master Bane is cunning enough to come up with this kind of scheme, it would be impossible for him to pull it off because he stands out too much and has no talent in Sith Sorcery.
Interesting. Though I always assumed and still think it’s more likely that palpating knew the schematics of the Jedi temple because he was Supreme Chancellor (I.e., the head of the government that paid for its construction and maintenance).
Dooku could have gave him the schematic.
Brilliant video and information. It does indeed give insight as to how Palpatine knew so much.
That’s why Sideous was THAT DUDE!!!
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“I hear a new apprentice you have emperor.. Or should I call you Darth Sidious”
"You will not stop me, darth vader will become more powerful than either of us"
"Faith in your new apprentice, misplaced may be. As is your faith in the dark side of the Force"
*shoots force lightning*
Darth Xanah, perhaps? She and Soreza Sin were both that impressive
Didn't Bane and Zannah infiltrate the Jedi Temple early on in the Rule of Two era?
Zannah did
Sidious:It was me !
Never knew that part of the lore, thank you!
Sideous could have known the layout of the Jedi Temple from Dooku
Please, can someone tell me why Jedi can't destroy the Sith holocrons? Or why do they collect the sith holocrons in their temple where many Jedi masters are coming in and out, even if it is a restricted area, knowing that these holocrons can turn some of them into sith?
Never really understood that myself.
Well, for one, some are literally indestructible. Made with Sith Alchemy, some items may even hold the soul of an ancient Sith Lord.
Others may fight back, resisting attempt to destroy them by lashing out with the Force. Some are just too valuable to destroy. It may be evil, but it's also knowledge of evil that may one day be used, by a wise enough master, to fight back that very same evil.
And then there's always the chance that even if they did perform a cleaning ritual to destroy the dark item, it would take multiple highly skilled Jedi to do something like that, and it runs the risk of damaging the Force, or tempting those Jedi to the Dark Side. Just mere proximity to some of these items is enough to induce crippling madness in the unprepared. Just need to look at how Vader got his Castle on Mustafar to see just how dangerous Sith Artifacts could be.
Imagine if, in the attempt to destroy that Helmet, Mace Windu had lost his concentration for even a second and put the helmet on. Goodbye Jedi order. Or at least, a good chunk of it, anyway.
@@lyntonflemingwhat helmet are you referring to with mace windu?
I don't think the holocrons could turn them into sith just merely by their presence but rather interacting with it, for example to open a Sith holocron you have to tap into the dark side like how maul got Ezra to do. (And he didn't turn into a Sith and he would be much more likely to do so than anyone that had access to that part of the jedi temple) one had to interact with and be corrupted by the Sith holocron to turn Sith
It's just like porn. Too valuable to delete 😂
You should do a video about sith alchemy and/or night sister magic and there connection to the force.
Sidious was very happy almost all the time.
This was brilliant. Makes sense. No I haven't. Pretty clever move. I think it was Bane who put in there. May the Force be with you too :)
It's true that while Darth Bane is cunning enough to come up with this kind of scheme, it would be impossible for him to pull it off because he stands out too much thanks to his muscular features and orbalisk armor and also because he has no talent in Sith Sorcery. Therefore, the only one who could pull it off would have to be his apprentice Darth Zannah when she infiltrated the Jedi Temple by masking her Dark Side aura with Sith Sorcery.
Were the Jedi aware of this Sith Holocron?
3:05
Well I assume so since it's mentioned they had it in their possession only to keep it out of sith hands. It also had a spell to conceal it from Jewish who assumed it wasn't an actual artifact. I mean that's my understanding of it
Sith sigint....how brilliant.
This is a cool concept.
I never knew about this, thank you
zanna under banes instruction only sith to penetrate the Jedi temple during rule of two , learned that from one of your videos lol 😂
You have done well.
The holocron _must_ have been able to see/hear through walls because wasn't it locked up in some special Jedi Vault? \m/
Zannah could have planted it.
I’m my canon the New Jedi Order recovers the real Sorzus Syn Holocron and stores it in their new more massive Jedi library on Ossus
Im a sith
The fact that Sith Sorcery can hide this from the entire Jedi Temple says a lot about the inferiority of Jedi teachings.
what a stupid and childish take
The jedi ( despite what they believed) were pathetically weak.
@@lordofpain3476 what an even dumber take
@@lordofpain3476 yoda and mace both soloed palpy
@@Jiub_SNlmao no. Mace died, Yoda lost and lived in a mud world in hiding for the rest of his life while palps ruled the galaxy and made the chosen one his bitch.
Seems to me that there is more to the story. The Holocrons were the Sith's way to pass knowledge. And the jedi didnt have a way??? Cant wait to see the connections moving forward.
Jedi have Holocrons too. And an entire religion that searches out and teaches new initiates...
So uh... Yeah they do have a few ways...
Actually the republic had the jedi temple blueprints as well so
Sidious was able to supply the blueprints for the jedi temple to cad bane coz he was the supreme chancellor, not coz of an ancient device disguised as a holocron, thats utterly stupid
im with you on that one
3:40 (Facepalm) Of Course!!!
Future jedi order
They corrupt also reminds them the Sith is always there
I think Darth Zannah would be the most likely suspect
Awesome Video : D
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I wonder was their a way to turn off this spying device without the Sith knowing.
Sounds like was he the Bane of the Jedi existence...
ORDER 66
Uh oh, I think this youtube video is listening to me… some sith must have snuck it into this playlist to spy on us!
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5:43 source of image please?
Smart!
I never even heard of this story
I thought Darth Zannah was credited with this deception??
Technically how to change the size of the Sith I’ve had the Syn holocron that long not that Bane slipped them the fake one
Or how long they had the fake one
I remember mance said the dark side surrounds palpatine , why they didn't question why the clones was created, I feel the Jedi could had stopped all of this the more I watch episode one, and two and especially three. I see flaws in all of the movies.
I mean in someways the sith explored force magic whilst jedis didn’t
It was a spy device
Wow for how the Jedi are praised for being so wise there actually morons. Especially master Yoda who somehow knew about the rule of two even though the Sith was in hiding before he was born and did nothing. Also he was the most responsible for the fall of the order and the Republic. He went to Kamino and got the clones without questioning them. If a Jedi placed the order then the Grand Master of the order would have had access to all the info about the clones including order 66. He also lost to Sidious which proves the dark side is more powerful which is why Sidious could operate right under the Jedis noses. For being a member of the council and eventually Grand Master for nearly 800 years he sure was stupid. It was the Jedis arrogance of the Jedi that got them killed by thinking the Sith were extinct for 1000 years and when one shows up they do nothing. Not even when Dooku straight up told Obi Wan that Palpatine was a Sith Lord Yoda just brushed it off and said Dooku fell to the dark side, lies and decite are his ways and that was it. He couldn't have talked to Dooku about it in person or through the force. He was his Master and Dooku would have probably told him. Or he could have touched Palpatine and found out he was powerful in the dark side but instead he thought the light was so much more powerful which it clearly wasn't. If Yoda was as powerful as we are told then he could have opened the Sith halocrons and learned this for himself.
Dooku said there was a Sith Lord named darth sidious. He never said that it was Palpatine. The Jedi suspected a plot surrounding Palpatine but thought it was someone around him. They never suspected that it was actually him. Also not sure what you mean by touching Palpatine?
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Dooku could have gave him the schematic.
Fact the Jedi Temple is above a sith Temple
Cool
The jedi were always their OWN worst.
Religion tends to humility and sharing of peace and opportunity which unites people in a common civilization. Sith is not a religion.
Or the fact count dooku was a Jedi.🤦
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Just another reason the jedi should have destroyed all of the sith holocrons they found
Those God dam schisms……….🤦♂️
DISNEY STAR WARS IS NOT CANON
Preach
The time eras should be split as Before and After Disney instead of Legends and Canon.
Hell yes. Just imagine how wealthy Disney would b if they would’ve just followed the books. 🤦🏽
EU is far better written has more lore depth stakes philosophy world building creativity inspiration than Disney soulless generic poorly written canon
@@baki2332 Kathleen Kennedy only cares about "the force is female"
I hate how overpowered Sidious is. It would have been much cooler if he was just way more cunning than powerful.
Because only a sith can read it. Lol
The EU is far better than Disney soulless generic poorly written watered down inconsistent repetitive uncreative small boring canon
A lot of the EU is straight garbage, constantly contradicts himself and the power scaling of some characters was beyond ridiculous.
I'm not gonna lie, I think these kinds of storyline are extremely boring and stupid in my opnion.
This is why I hated the sequel so much why were there some stupid Jedi books when we all know that Jedis and Sith use hollocrons