Why Sith Ronins HUNTED Other Sith - Star Wars Explained
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In one of Sidious’s books he states that if he could have a second chance of turning Anakin to the Dark then he would, but make sure he had a tighter leash around his apprentice. To make sure that he’s absolutely subservient to his rule and to be a better apprentice than he first taught.
Sith that become Anti-Sith are definitely beings that would make the different Orders panic because they aren’t fighting Jedi that’re more reserved and controlling of their emotions. They’re fighting people who’re just as ruthless or even more out of control than themselves just like Darth Wredd or The Ronin.
The Ronin story's illustration reminds me of Afro Samurai and Samurai Champloo
Samurai champloo, what a show like. ❤
@@jamesmcguinness6195 Hell yes dude, I just recently got my hands on the box set and some collectibles. Samurai Champloo is so good.
I'm glad to see The Ronin get more love and spotlight. I think this alternate universe/timeline is fascinating and would make for great exploration and stories in more books, games, or even film or television.
Day 286 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Keep the light on
@@taylorlibby7642 in the darkest times, hope is something you give to yourself. That is the meaning of inner strength. I am one with the Force and the Force is with me. May the Force be with you...always.
Never gonna happen
@@joshuahudgins2586 You sought to destroy my will and hope but have instead fueled it and made it that much stronger. For the hope does not exist with the promise of a better tomorrow but in spite of the unknown. For when one hopes they give themselves fully to the Force. I know this, for I am one with the Force and the Force is with me. May the Force be with you...always
I agree. Stupendous, when the heck are you going to come back to finish it
I do think Sith Ronins and Jedi shadows would find each others as worthy opponents and possible allies. I do think Revan would be fit in both
I find it unlikely for a dark sider of any type to respect a light sider like that
They have dark and grey Jedi, so what about light and grey sith? Idk if a light sith would be possible but these anti -sith may be considered grey sith?
Grey Jedi is fanon. Jedi and Sith philosophy can't work with Grey Philosophy. Sith Ronin and Jedi Shadow's duties include Killing Sith
@@DeathScepter I'm pretty sure Grey Jedi is in canon. But maybe that was legacy/pre-disney stuff.
@@supreme84x both within Legends and Canon, Grey Jedi is not a thing
The Ronin, and Kyle Katarn need to be put into canon while he wasn't mentioned on this list his view on the light and dark side of the force is just as nuanced, and could be a fun exploration in canon lore as it's still rare to find characters that go staunchly to one side of the force, but at the same time encourage the exploration of both sides.
Was kyle ever a sith though? Grey Jedi at most.
If they do its not going to be Kyle. Disney won't give the spotlight to a straight white guy.
@@ToveriJuri he turned to the dark side at one point and nearly became Sith
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So did Luke who actually became Sith, Palpatine's apprentice no less.
@@ToveriJuri That he did, but what I was saying is the new canon needs more nuanced looks at both the light and dark side, so far there's only been a handful of truly unique perspectives on the force as a whole in canon, so requesting/wishing for The Ronin a Sith who protected a town from a rival and acted with a sense of bushido while using the dark side, is just as nuanced as Kyle Katarn's own perspective of no force ability being inherently good nor evil.
The concept of a Sith Ronin makes me want to see a Star Wars story that takes place a few centuries before the rise of Darth Bane and the Rule of Two. In this story, the main character would be a young Jedi who attained knighthood a few months ago. Then he and his former master are attacked by the Sith on their battle cruiser. The master is killed before his eyes and the Sith who killed his master forcibly takes him as his apprentice. After three years of hellish training, the main character hates the Jedi for abandoning him and the Sith for making his life a wretched existence. Eventually, he kills his Sith master and goes rogue, starting his own campaign against the Sith. Throughout his campaign, he recruits his own team full of people who hate the Sith as much as he does, making them a dark version of the Ghost crew from Rebels. Not only do they hunt down and kill individual Sith, but they leak information to the Jedi and the Republic to undermine the Sith's operations from within. However, the main character and his team are not friends of either the Jedi or the Republic. Their interests in taking down the Sith align. I hope we get a story like this in a future Star Wars story because I think it would be quite interesting to follow. What do you think?
Sounds cool, kind of like a star wars version of the punisher. Perhaps have the group he or she runs be similar to the main characters from dark matter, where they all have different agendas, morals, and values from each other whose interests just happen to align somewhat to throw in an interesting element of disfunction (some of them barely kept from killing each other).
@@jayburn00 That truly does sound like a complex group. Just what I was thinking. They would each have their own reason to hate the Sith, which would occasionally cause friction with the main character who used to be a Sith. I bet they would routinely attack the main character like when Inspector Clouseau is attacked by Cato in the Pink Panther. While the group is hunting down individual Sith and hindering the Sith's plans for galactic conquest, the Sith would dispatch a master and apprentice team to hunt down the group.
Brilliant
@@jackreacher4488 Thank you. At some point, I am thinking of the main character attacking one Sith Lord's entire power base like in Kill Bill.
Not exactly the same but sounds like the book star wars visions : Ronin. He was the original Sith lord in this timeline and for reasons I won't spoil he pretty much kills 90% of the Sith and goes around hunting the rest. He also forms a group in the story to get rid of the sith and they don't trust the JEDI slash Republic
Where exactly does it say that the ronin was Ajunta? Cause I’m pretty sure it’s not lol all vision stories are one of a kind.
Valkorian was just one of Tenebrae’s puppets. He literally derides him in Echoes of Oblivion for being “Distracted” by having a family. Scourge is a True Sith. During the same expansion he comments about the Emperor’s Hand, “Being a Sith is about breaking one’s chains. These fools chained themselves to the whims of a madman.” Scourge is probably the most Sith person out of anyone you listed.
Yesh but scourge betrayed the sith bc He had light sympathies. He also joined the alliance to kill tenebrae. Tenebrae is a true sith bc He is only loyal to himself. Scourge is a lighg sith and a betrayer.
@@1qplayer626 He didn’t betray the Sith because he had “Light Tendencies”. He betrayed Tenebrae because he saw he was a madman who’d wipe out EVERYONE, Sith or Jedi. He was also smart enough to see that staying tied to one dogmatic side or the other is foolish.
@@bsowers22 yah thats true. But He still formed attachments to the hero of tython. That has nothing to do with fighting tenebrae
I wish that he was in some way canon, a version in the past, because although he is strong he isnt as insane as other people like starkiller. This makes it easier to fit into canon, although it is unlikely.
If Revan will become canon then Nox, Marr, Satele, Valkorian and others should be too.
@@DarthNox66Revan is canon. His name is mentioned in the rise of skywalker data book I believe
@@kingtrentinius659 Rise Of Skywalker isn't canon so...joking. But if Reven is caonos, then the rest is too.
Could you explain a holocron detailing the Fel Empire in Legends and what role their Knights held in the Galaxy?
I didn’t know about this. Impressive. Most Impressive.
It's interesting how much of this comes from the Star Wars: The old republic video game (even though it's been relegated to legends status)
Can you do more about dark Jedi? I liked how legends often touched upon them. Especially the era after the fall of the galactic empire with likes of inquisitors and the shadow academy
The glory of the Sith is something that very few can achieve , the rest will fall at our feet.
Darth Malgus. That is the badass right there. Imagine if he was in the unknown regions.
As long as this concept helps keep the franchise going then I'm all for it.
13:40 not just a novel, but a comic last year, and another comic coming up this january!
The first dark lord is even more interesting due to this video. We need his life on the silver screen.
I’m still hoping to see the return of starkiller to canon. I’d love to see him in live action
"Sith are nasty" 😂 that was a hilarious phrase
So like Jedi Shadows Sith had their own version of "shadows"... kinda like the ancient Sith Gestapo or Greek Kryptaia... though dunno what these very highly specialized Sith would do other then hunt Light Sith when they was a thing. Or used as enforcement of some high Sith Lord to keep lesser Sith in line when there was whole Empire's worth of them.. unless in sorta like narrated it was more like "Riddick" in the Star Wars Galaxy. And he had magic Force powers
I think Maul classifies as a anti-sith because he renounced his Darth title and wanted to destroy the sith in his later life.
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I don’t know if I’d classify Malgus as an “Anti-Sith.” By your definition, I’d classify his actions as similar to Bane’s. He didn’t like the direction that the ruling Sith Order was going in, so he rebelled, not bc he saw being Sith as inherently wrong, but bc he thought the people in charge weren’t being Sith-y enough. Sure, he preached racial tolerance, but not bc it is morally right but bc being intolerant is tactically illogical and makes you weaker. He never stopped being Sith or even slightly turned away from the Dark Side. He didn’t want to destroy the Sith, he wanted to rebuild them in his image, just like Bane.
Yes i agree: anti sith is a cool concept
Anti villain is as well 👍🏻
Lots of storytelling ideas there
Actually that does make sense the red kyber crystal theory. Yoda exiled himself to Dagobah and defeated Joruus C’Boath who was immersed in the dark side. It was confirmed that the only reason Vader and Palpatine never thought to look for him there was because of the planet’s dark side aura and Yoda severing his force connection
What would have happened if Dooku had trained Anakin? Has anyone done a what if on that? 1:44
tbh I want a what if for if Zannah had betrayed Bane and became a jedi
I really don't see lord scourge as an anti-sith. If anything, I believe that's more in line with what Tenebrae transcended to, later in life. Or that's at least more what Valkorion's kids sort of become.
This is really interesting. I like the idea of anti-Sith. Raven is perfect example. Darth Wredd could be. Sith Ronin is very interesting too. Dark Jedi are interesting too. They were called that before the Sith were known. I don't think anti-Sith fighting Sith is bad idea. May the Force be with you too😊
So the anti Sith is like Darth Wredd who tried to destroy the one Sith.
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Why exclude those twins on grounds "they had an empire of their own", yet include the other Sith who tried to make his own empire?
And why were there two different characters who were "the one you were excited to talk about"?
I like to see sith ronins take on Vader maul and the emperor
Darth Treya was opposed to the sith the jedi and most importantly the force. Her war was one of silence, to forever rid everyone of the will the force imposes on us rather than people learning to take real responsibility and to grow from it. Although she makes the point that one does not learn from true mistake.
So… Sith ronins could be antiheroes or antivillains?
Well this is a possible headcanon. Revan is both a Sith Ronin and Jedi Shadow in his life
Darth Krayt as Wredd's Master? Old Republic in Legacy era? What?
I was disappointed that The Ronin at Visions was just one episode
sounds a lot like baylon skoll
and Valkorion is Vitiate
He knows this. He made entire Videos about tenebrae and in those He stated that valk was his last body. But He stressed valkorion bc that was his zakuul identity
Darth Maul is also kinda similar, was forced to become a Sith against his will and used the dark side against the empire.
Let's put it this way. Was there really a Star Wars version of Frank Milller's THE RONIN? Or is that just a non-canonical (= purely legendary) background story that was never fully developed.
In swgoh i made my GT DarthRonin in 2019.... predicted it lol
Has anybody tried to turn off Darth Vader's suit. It has so many buttons.
Even these Sith have standards.
Wait, so is the Ajunta thing canon in "this" universe? I'm a bit confused.
I wish Lucasfilm would roll hard into doing some amazing movies or series about the origins of the Sith order Game of Thrones style. Have a long series starting with when the dark Jedi land on old Korriban take over the planet learn there dark side powers then over 5 seasons show them rise build an army/fleet and attack the old republic. Also it must be rated TV MA dark and adult enough like game of thrones with out all the sex. Also some blood & gore
The ronin is a mute example. It's neither official canon nor belonging to the eu canon. It's more a sw themed, different story if u will or a what if kinda thing.
U show maul prominently while explaining the concept n that's also a bad choice.
He was only trying to get power himself n used sith teachings to indoctrinate n train his brother as well as ezra. His desire to oppose sidious was only for revenge n that 4 not being accepted back.
He was hurt by his brothers death but only after the fact n when it fitted into the hate on sidious. Earlier he was instantly willing to ask 4 being taken back by sidious, knowing that he would sign his bro's deathsentence if he succeeds cuz he was trained to follow the rule of two, which he does without question n tought to savas n ezra too despite that there was never a hint that he got to learn the rules origin. w. With dooku being at his spot n loyally helping against maul he's an enemy too n that makes it technicly true that maul wanted to kill the sith.
He still wasn't "anti" at all. He would end all sith that there're thx to the rule of 2, by default when he settles his personal scores. He also would've done so to replace these sith, making him nothing different to the ancient sith's infighting murders.
Malgus is just as wrong to b concidered. He as well was a political dicident who himself would have caused an even bigger danger cause he wasn't anti the sith ideology but rather he was desirering more of it in terms of how it's informed the empires actions.
His sole reason for wanting more openess towards other races, was to avoid wasting potential ressources. He was an absolute hardliner, an ideologicle extremist who opposed "the sith" as in the gouvernment he had to obey not the ideology n whoever follows it.
Going by ur explained concept, i'm almost certain that there is no such thing that mattered. Not at least, from the outside viewed n as a real effort against their teachings.
4 that it would have to b a follower of a changed new - or unrelated dark side ideology that at least genuinly trys to b seen seperate from sith teaching.
Also in a way that's done cuz it recognized the other way to be fundanentally wrong. "not good enough" is not good enough.
That makes it so hard. All darksiders who were seriously opposing sith were doing so as reformed force users who either renounced it completely our broke with both orders more or less to follow their own "grey" path.
The one thing true about sith ideology is that it is superior among dark side sekts cuz they were allways extremists n devoted to maximize their ability to channel the force "by force" n bend it to their will. It is the order devoted to the dark side in the purest form n not acting in that manner as a sideeffect of other believes.
There is no pure dark side alligned ideology that claims to b different AND superior to the sith cuz they would have to proof it by actions. Not attacking the sith would mean proving the own beliefs to b lies.
If genuine yet false it's obvious why there's no such case n after failing, no one would keep that ideology n likely become sith too.
It seems more u made up this concept cuz u needed a topic to create more sw junkfood.
Nice!
I think I finally found my calling: the Anti Sith
Its outrageous i
... I don't think Malgus is an anti sith, he just didn't agree with the emperor and opposed his empire.
Maul post clone wars however, he was still dedicated to the darkside, but he rejected the sith and the Jedi.
So if Sith Ronin hunt other sith, how is that different from Ahsoka who is now also considered a Ronin?
Darth Wredd is cool
Ronin is NOT anjunta pall , there r first order stormtroopers w degraded armor like its post first order , its an alternate reality in visions , and the Elder was one aswell , the guy w katana sabers w curular gaurd katana shaped sabers , Darth Marr ? Scourge for sure
They follow the rule of 2 im guessing
Anti-Sith is certainly an interesting concept, however, to think so many people get upset by the concept of grey Jedi is certainly interesting in itself
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You cannot wipe out the Sith. If one eliminates the Sith, you must also wipe out the Jedi. This is because you must eliminate the force, and that means all life in the galaxy.
While I love more focus on the Ronin, I do have to say that your assertion is inaccurate to a degree. The Kyber Crystal wasn’t giving off Dark Side energies, red kyber crystals symbolize self-determination and an allegiance to an individual wielder rather than a lineage in the Ronin’s world. Now I don’t doubt the crystal would shield the village from another Siths attention.. but not because of a connection to the Dark Side- there is no Dark Side. There is the White Flare and Black Current.
Scourge was not only a traitor , he was a inferior !!!!!
He not only betrayed the Sith , he betrayed his one true god ......
The Sith Emperor , Lord Viciate !!!!
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Yes these ronins are a true soultion to sith that are so foul that they need to die
Visions stories are stand alone and not canon
You are pronouncing Maladi wrong, its closer to Melody.
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Why is everyone blaming it on marvel blame it on the real screw ups which is Disney, Disney is doing the exact same thing to Star Wars they ignored the fan base that kept those brands going before Disney decided to screw everything up with the bs. It's like WNBA they scream for everything the NBA has but women would rather watch the Kardashians.
How in the world is the term anti villain unofficial?
I mean it describes them p well and Anti Villain is a very real thing in literature. Your statement makes no sense
I love how this channel is all about trying to give weird and lame reasons for Disney trying to make money. In this example 'anime and Japanese culture sells a lot, let's add it in star wars'
I would rather be a anti sith
I will never call anyone in star wars a ronin. Do that and you'll have to call others samurai or shogun etc. Nobody wants another can of worms poured on star wars, but apparently nobody is willing to read the labels either. Bad enough they're getting lazy with actual names. "Just rip-off mythology and arthurian legend, it's fine. No don't bother hiding it, they eat it up like dogs on vomit wether we chew it first or not."
That's not to say that a ronin themed character is off the table, so long as that's not their sole personality or design trait. And I personally love the idea of a darkside hero. I just find using real world terms in Star Wars distasteful just because they're foreign words. Stop using real cultures in fiction all the time and try inventing cultures once in a while.
There's no such thing.
Disney Slop Wars is corporate fanfic, not canon.
There is no such thing as an Anti-Sith or a Sith Ronin since Sith are selfish by nature and they act independently /only/ if they disagree with the current goals of The Sith Order. They do not hunt each other for sport or with any altruistic ulterior motives. If you want to go into fanfiction territory by making up Jedi and Sith ranks and omitting or twisting elements of the established lore in order to fit your view of Star Wars, you are disrespecting Canon and Legends alike.
1) it's a label and framework used to analyze official material, which was openly stated in the video.
2) "disrespecting cannon"? 🤣
It's one thing to not like a viewpoint, but you REALLY need to touch grass if you're getting offended on behalf of a multi-billion dollar franchise.
littelary the last sith in legends💀
never heard of them. is this new crap???
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